Armchair Anonymous: Betrayal

Dax and Monica talk to Armcherries! In today's episode, Armcherries tell us about a time they betrayed someone they love. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Wondery Plus subscribers can listen to Armchair Expert early and ad-free right now. In the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts. Or you can listen for free wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome. Welcome to armchair anonymous. I'm Dax Shepard. I'm joined by Monica, which we now know means unique and solitary and to advise and alone and an advisor. Padman. Today we are talking about a juicy, topic without repeating myself because I think I did applaud everyone who did call in for this one, but very impressed by people who submitted for this one betrayal. Tell us about a time you betrayed someone you love. It'd be very easy to call up and talk about a time that you were. - Trade? - Yep. - Who doesn't wanna complain about that? - Who doesn't wanna be a victim?

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Hey, we love being victims. But to say that you betrayed someone is very, I find a great honor in it. It's really brave, yeah. And I hope cathartic for anyone listening who's obviously, we've all made mistakes. And if you haven't yet, you will make a mistake. And it's nice to hear you're not alone. Ding, ding, ding, you're not a Monica. And you will not advise anyone if you're not making mistakes and you're not engaged. It's the only way to learn. It's the only way. I've betrayed a lot of people. I'll just say that. Me too. I've betrayed some people. Some people, yeah. You've got more work to do. You're going to catch me. You've got to pick up your drinking. That's step one. If you really want to get into the betrayal business, that's a great step. First step over consume. I'll consider it. Alright. I love you and I love the armchairs who shared these incredibly brave stories about betrayal so please enjoy betrayal.

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Hi! Hi! How are you? Oh, so good! We're good, how are you? I'm so good. I'm really happy to be talking to you guys. This is awesome. First of all, can I use your real name or should I use a code name? You can call me Nick, that's fine. Okay, so Nick, I think this is one of the braver prompts to have answered because it's really kind of owning some responsibility. Unless yours is extreme and you had no choice. Choice like, Betray this person or we kill Manhattan. Assuming it wasn't that situation. No, there definitely was some responsibility on my part. Well, so I just commend you, 'cause I think this would be one of the harder ones to share about. And that a lot of people have betrayed someone they love and keep a secret. Yeah. It's definitely a topic that I've talked with. To many people before and hopefully I can get through without being too much of a wreck with you guys. Okay. Let's hear it. Alright, set the scene for us.

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Does it involve? So it involves me and my dad, actually. My parents were divorced between seventh and eighth grade. Seventh and eighth grade. That's a tricky time, man. Yeah, it was weird. I did not like my time in junior high. Common. Yeah. Honestly, I don't know anybody that might have liked that time. Me. My favorite year of my life. Yes, but very rare. I recognize it's very rare. He peaked really early. So, yeah. It's the only time in my life I thought I was really good looking. I mean, what about now? You're pretty good looking right now. Well, thank you. I think you're really good looking. You've got a very rugged-- Maybe you could send us some pics and you can make the next year's calendar. Ah, possibly. OK. It's a big deal. We can arrange that. OK. So my parents got the-- Of course, it was pretty ugly. I ended up moving out, living with my mom. And for the longest time, I had this relationship with my dad that was hit or miss. He had tattoos all over, huge biker, really rugged kind of guy actually. - Ding, ding, ding.

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I was hoping we would run into one of those during this. I always wanted to be a really good friend to him and we just kind of never connected on that level. Unfortunately, this is like three or four months after the divorce, it didn't finalize and we moved out. To go over to his house to pick up some papers to get off of his credit. He was racking up credit cards in her name and just maxed them all out. Big mess. So we go over there to get the papers and my mom sends me in first because She didn't want to go in and deal with his bullshit. So I go in, ask him for the papers. And if you can imagine, he's sitting in the living room between the coffee table and the couch, but he's like on the floor. So it was like having dinner at the coffee table. - Oh, I know it well, I do it every day. - Yeah, so I go in and ask him and he's like, We were talking about, I don't have these papers. Tell her, and she goes in, and I can see everything in the living room because there's these two big windows that go from floor to ceiling. I'm sitting in the front seat of the car, old school.