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Beastie Boys

2020-06-15
Beastie Boys were an American hip hop group from New York City. Adam and Mike D sit down with the Armchair Expert to discuss the nascent beginnings of the band, the protective nature of a group dynamic and working with legends early in their careers. Dax makes predictions about Mike and Adam's life and they discuss the conflation of personal identity with band identity. They talk about what it feels like to lose a band member and Adam is the first to introduce Zoom chat to the Armchair Expert recording history.
This is an unofficial transcript meant for reference. Accuracy is not guaranteed.
Welcome, welcome, welcome an armchair expert and Dan Shepherd of joined by Monica Monceux. Where are you do great hurry? You know we ve got an exciting group of musicians onto the railways. Boys boys, boys boys. the beastie boys are here. The beast boys are an american Hiphop group from New York City formed in nineteen. Seventy eight. They are three I'm Grammy Award Winners and ten time nominees. We talk today with Michael, I'm in a k, mighty and Adam Horvitz, a K. Add rock. If you love the beastie boys like I do. I recommend you check out Beastie boys story by Jones LIVE Documentary available now on apple tv plus? So please, enjoy the beastie boys. We are supported by squares space, swears Bay Square Space Square space at the tongue.
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acts he's. But how do I mean you know? I want to maintain good posture, and this episode exists and I can tell already taxes It became disappointed if I don't serve represent well on that one other thing. I just want to be clear: you think I am a stickler on pasture yeah, yeah, obviously looking to me as a role model for possible alignment, and I don't want to disappoint Adam I'll, say and I'm just opening myself up for daggers right now from one of my oldest friends and partners at importance here, but my pastoral alignment, has really improved over the over the imo MIKE. You are actually taller for really see myself spent
ass, the pasture, but how bad wasn't when we are achieving a jury like I literally couldn't even like to look up at service, like my there was a man is now my butt you wanted it and you went for a new. MIKE you made it happened, taller! You MIKE. I think I remained five ten all along, but I read maybe five ten, a half now in the dark you read to me This is why the I would agree it does skinny what I meant to say: you're blowing air, my buttock you're not going out about a considerable deal. Money. You mean six. Why can we talk about an atom? I think we ve talked about this, but I have a theory about front people of dance, eight, that you should never be over six feet Rarely the only exception. I have to that rule who is Ramon?
Joey Ramon always had the might stand as a prop lucky. He felt so awkward being so tall it. He was like bent over her. He had the MIKE stance, it kind of mitigated his his height. I think you're ignoring one of the greatest front, men of all time in leds up one. What will I will hold up Robert at all, he's of land rather glad, but I've wheel in public out of it. I am other. We met him in a lobby. I went camping with him I am here. That's that's he's a good six one and change not true maybe it's later in life, where we met him and the man is not far off from lowly pollution. I was lily? I mean that I need characters in what story yeah Lulli put people who come from Lily put, is it then maybe you only effusion refers to a person of smaller height
very nice guy when we met him in the in the hotel. I couldn't have been nice are honestly like it does say: he's six. on the internet, browser internet, I've lives matter, stop why in Manhattan, I'm six to and change in virtually looking I'd, I just for whatever that's worth unless he could at boots on. I don't know well, maybe it isn't maybe it's in no disrespect, maybe it's an aging think as we met him. years ago, when we on tour, when we met about em, This wondering on Wikipedia today take account for boots and shit on Wikipedia gray question. It's a great question: doubt will figure that out here. I exactly so here's my question. So there was a camera operator on parenthood, and his name was Arturo Skippy, o African. Oh, oh, my goodness, do you guys know Arthur Africa now never heard of him. He's a liar. I've been found,
with Arthur since kindergarten. Good good, good, good, good. Ok, so I think this could be a bridge by which we can trust one another. It was he in a bag with. What are you guys when you were little? Yes, we turn the band, the young and the useless the young and the useless ok. This is now and now I have a second question to build a further bridge. Was one of you married to wag sister. I that's all that's a little bit confused. like wagons, Uganda, wags, wives, sister wag is a good friend of both the bars and he's married to Kim and Kim Davis. Her sister director ten Davis is my ex wife. There we go. I have been asked to advise her on
Polaris Razor to buy, and so I ve actually emailed with your ex wife having never met her, but I only to guide her on our road purchase now. Well. Ok! Well, then, I should give you props, because I don't know what your background is with the Paris is, but my teenagers go out till she has a house out in the desert where I've said Bulgaria's is inviting, yours have taken that thing into the national Park were untold miles and had had the best Time yeah I mean I, I went through maybe five option. She really had. I narrowed it down to one. I was really really involved and I don't you generally a car we're talking about road vehicle. Yes, a four wheel off road vehicle, but unlike can a tv I mean. Maybe I'm deluding myself, but, unlike a tv, I think it's really safe, because its you're in a row, cage sizes, you isn't it you don't have your hands or arms out. Let me keep all your limbs within the cage. Yeah you're gonna be safe and then you go see them.
the product can see you see all those holes. I might top of my hand I rolled one recently and got a bunch of pins in my hand and then got em removed a week. Because he put his hand. That is put my hand as a new member one thing I Toby Royal exacerbate yet in it. Ok, do you guys vehicle so at all to me. Are you people? So, ok, so really quick, MIKE you're in Malibu and Adam. Where are you You know I'm around the item armed and saved by the fact that there is no detail behind you. My theory is your actually in a closet that carefully his heart? Who, in a closet and I'm in a real room, I see a popcorn ceiling yeah. I'm gonna wait for some reason. Why does it have a cottage she's ceiling Adam ok, I'm judging from the flora outside you are on the West Coast. Fantastic Adam. Are you generally this cold and interviews or is it just means? There's something about mean its triggering your? This is just generally how you are it's MIKE:
MIKE. You know at the side of your just out of kindness and reciprocity, where you, I'm in LOS Angeles, in an attic above a garage of a house. We ve been building for three years and more likely build for the rest of our lives. I don't know about your quarantine situation. Does I noticed that you are not six feet: you're not wearing masks. What's going on, have you been quarantine? Yeah we ve been and doing the whole thing together, two months to plus months at this point, writers of the epidemic Monica lived at our house issues having differently chocolate shoes, and so we were housing. Her and then it started, we are already all living together, so I got I wish I was shooting in Austin ahead to come on. Then I had to self quarantine for a week at her apartment, which was deserted, and then I got invited back into the family home our. We all just took the Vienna by terrorism. Not none of us have it, unfortunately, really I'd fingers crossed they had had it
because I'm a man about it ass. I am not yet, but the thing is I haven't had the flu in though it I saw it so there. Yes, there's a petitions that that was flying back and forth to your constant. We are the whole end of twenty nineteen into the beginning of twenty twenty there. so shares our chances exposed to an absolutely, but I would have had did then remain completely asymptomatic should also so happens, the ouch happens. So I watched the owls documentary last night, which is banned. I stick your voice when you said yes, don't you and I watched you, you did the high pitched thing which to me denotes maybe like a chain of the truth and you look down which is. As you know, I looked down. I looked to see if I wrote the name of it anywhere, which I stupidly just call Beastie boys right. That's all I typed in the apple and it came up MR story. A story as if that's gonna change anything. But again, if you, if you get
these the out it'll self, fill in boys and story. So really all I need to tell people that I've been beastie into their apple tv, which is what I did, and I was so delighted watching it. For so many reasons, because my experience with you guys is I'm from nature, I was very near the hard core scene. When fight for your right to party came out, I was like. Oh, I don't like that, it's like booze, frat culture, Bob I bought it. Popular and I want to do anything that was in popular, so I didn't never give it a chance and then, as things progressed, I fell in love with you guys in of course, probably like so many people through the sabotage video and Spike Jones, and all that I just would like. Oh these guys are, everything I want to be, and then some and then I was we kind of delighted to watch the story of you and it was so informative, like I know who Rick Reuben is a bender that Shangri La Studio and The guy? I met these super spiritual, so I never
in him, when you guys, Madame so to see that footage of you guys meeting him and why you and in his persona back then, and just all the people that have moved through your journey, the Beazley Boys Journey is so impressive. So many incredibly towns appeal that you guys kind of just stumbled upon him were open to work with and it's the story is, as me, about the world in which you guys inhabited and fostered as it is about you guys, which I think is phenomenal Thank you for your takeaway gazette. No, that was one of our ambitions. They both our book and then the state show and then the resulting director, buys by John was to show that everything we ve done is all about context. The inspiration, the seed, just even the idea that we thought,
that we could do what we'll see what we can do and very minimal fear going up on stages. Kids reading her are wrapped lyrics from a piece of paper which does not look very good on film when we look back at a stage now that was all a result, the fact that we we grew up in the New York City, that we grew up it. It was the nineteenth century he is when we were like little kids and its justice thing of all. Our parents had decided to stay in New York City. You are apparent new. You decide to raise your family in New York City at the time. For the most part, I think, like the the There stood condition or one of the conditions was you're gonna, give your kids the freedom to just go out and do whatever our as this movement like you know, free range parenting and its basically just what you were doing or like Anthony Keaton. Flee, were doing an ally like there's these perfect cauldrons. For this yeah me, I don't. Our parents had him aesthetic term for Joseph now.
But tat. It is negligence. Venomous formal letter was that's normal! That's how you did it you there's a total bravery like when I'm watching you guys cause some of you met at a show like a bad brain show or something- and I remember, like my brother, my older brother took me to see exploited when I was eleven in it is downright dangerous. Like I was eleven, I was fucking terrified. My brother's I'd be careful, some guys put screws in the back, their combat boots with a break your angle in Europe by she all this. crazy lore and I was so attracted to this danger of it- and I just I feel very vulnerable at eleven. A m. I was watching you little kids in that seen and I was like oh yeah. I remember that like being drawn to that yeah. Basically what that category. I met me out and see a at show was serve your counterpart right, the out like this, and I was way too shy to even talk to anybody, so I
there were this with John bury him. I went to school with was the original guitar player, beastie boys and job, a lot more socially capable than I was probably than I am now. He became yours social liaison. While there was only one other kids interests like EDA. It's also there. There is like maybe all of two dozen people there right at this. Joe wasn't like our core. It was such a big deal to us. We I was gonna, be a really big deal. It turns out. I like it, Tuesday night and some small bar in Manhattan, is only like twenty people. Their ran out of it twenty- there was only one other kid that was our age and, and that was Yahoo NCAA. You know we are all probably better to fifteen years old or something yeah, and there are all these things that I felt personally I could really relate to, and one of them was like the first incarnation of you guys, licence to ill. It seems a little bit. correct me. If I'm wrong that, in order to over
come the barrier of humiliation right to be even up to get on a stage and to do something. It's almost like it required a character to protect every and I wondered if there was like consciously you're unconsciously, are in retrospect, do recognise that you guys were maybe like adopting characters so that if that person burned alive on stage. It would really be. You would be that character you created in. I don't think you think that type stuff when your teenager, but you know speaking for me like we, we did become characters right these I fantasy kind of things of what we wanted to be in a way, and you know when you get attention for something you know you just keep doing it. The cause. People like. Oh that's thy like that, and you like, like being liked yeah yeah. Of course I was even thinking like when you guys got invited very early on to open for Madonna, and you guys decided like ok, so our things,
Gonna be be, were rock stars right zone, all the interviews, we're gonna be of noxious and all- and I just wonder if that was almost self defence mechanism about like wait, who the fuck are we to be open the we need some character, it was there any fear or no, because its review were together. Did you just feel like in vulnerable? In the Madonna contacts? Are two things are happening in a river new top with Rick about this. The things like are we're work to go on stage and these girls Look there. All there sea see Madonna, nobody Is there to see us royal their proper? You're, not gonna like us, but hopefully they're, not gonna forget us the idea that we can make it for ourselves. How can you get something out of this year and then I do too there's. This is other thing that I should only I think, back onyx. It served us well through our whole arc of being banned from that
beginning like opening up from the janitor, but I'm towards even the very end when the hour was ill at aroused put it. But as a group mentality is Sunday about being a group. We are always just looking to make the other two guys laugh, I'm so grateful that we had that because that buffered us from where any one of us were in it alone will be like what is the rest of the world economy. We didn't They have to give a shit about that, because what we cared about so much more were the two friends that we know where we are in it with ok, Rick Reuben. This was news to me. I guess I thought I could. Always associated him with you guys. I thought he was along for the entire ride. It was news to me that he was not after licence to ill. What can you say about? Obviously, then you have no sense that become Rick Reuben, but were you noticing some kind of genius real like this guy is? He has some something kind of special like it's really
here that you guys bumped into one of what became the biggest producers and then also spike Jones you bump into, and he ends up, her, like there's a lot of you guys bumping into people who proved to be a kind of the best in that field and I am always curious. If you had to say the vote in the moment or was later revealed to were tastes makers. Is it I'd? Well either could have been like scouts for baseball. Like you, don't know how to work in fine talent, that's for sure will money ball before money. While we met Rick Reuben just because we are playing a shown, we needed a bubble machine, and so our friendly Cooper said. I know this dj guy has a bubble machine and then we'll go. We could have a dj there be common sense that's how we met oven and then, as far as going on for a long career in producing something about Rick, when we were that age was interesting we all all of us. Kids wanted to be an bans, but, like I don't know, any kids are like. I want to produce
yeah yeah, it's a very weird pursued at that age, and so Rick, there's deadly something about Rick, that a cat like specials not towards much is kind of a word. But at that time he had a real persona to himself and it was kind of fine yeah. He was older than you guys to write two years, He was all of like two years older than us, but when you're that age like high school and he's in college and we're going to his dorm room, that was a really big deal to us right. That's enough that we couldn't believe that what year did were in Greenwich Village anyway like what to, but that fact that we're going into a college dorm live like a big deal because we're in high school for sure at an I must add the word arrows say like I think it's a Rick had a certain confidence in himself and a convict.
in life we even more than the covenanters like this, this conviction in his ideas that was gosh carve infectious when I think back of it an impressive, that's something we hadn't seen. Well, you are in a phase of trying to find your voice. Right in here is a guy that seems to know what his voice to go back to that Madonna thing. When we're gonna gonna go towards Madonna, you know we I just assumed everybody would hate us and when you're a punk rocker like this oh yeah, she assumed correctly Adam. What I'm saying so, when you're a punk, that's fine, of course. It gonna hate us, that's cool, they hate us, but only about regroup unlike introduce things that were similar we're into, but like a different like he was really in the wrestling right right, so we were trying to think about. What can we do? That? Would you know stand out his ago. You should do this like wrestling stick. we like ok yeah. He was very much plain that the manager to Rick was obsessed with anyone
he'll talk about himself now, but he was obsessed with wrestling and we re at that time was is weird combination of heavy metal wrestling rat, music, punk rock any, and even then he had like our memory. He like this so yoga poster on his honest, wall of his dorm room like I'm all these different yoga pastures and it was really is like what is that I just remember as a kid is a teenager. I've never seen anything like that? I don't. No, what I thought of it honestly cost Just so so, Sir, a fire was less expositions, poster Yeah? That's it that's what I thought as as well, when I first saw it and then the other weird thing: the person that search managing is Russell Simmons, who, at that time it what he just manage. The M seek, as his brother was in run DMZ. Yet Russell at dinner pop promoter and his brother Joe Run from Randy, and see what
You know an aspiring, really good embassy from Queens and Russell Madge Curtis blow the Burundian, see kind of became a thing. Then Rick met Russell first, but when we met Rushlight Russell was the biggest name in the rap music business. Allow rap music business then is not rap music business, two thousand twentieth it's you know, there's really neat thing, that's just at that point. It just like happening in downtown New York, maybe was in Philadelphia, maybe gut and a Virginia a little bit, and that's like everything, rap music had gotten to Detroit like it's like literally the it the geographic reach of rap music, This was really really is still very limited at that time, but he managed a bunch Iraq groups from New York running of young Houdini. on Curtis below all the biggest rap group,
where's biter ruled commodity, like my Sparky de Sparky, Jimmy's by Sir, not eight p m the speedy EPA Edna didn't know he didn't know jp I'll, get you re. Emily are managed Opium D. That was later, though DE was a big letter. Oh yeah, I'm part in our part of the G family. Here you are proud member. So when you is the dissolution in at all. Cuz get Russell. Simmons goes on to be a billionaire, and you know Rick goes on to do what Rick does and it's all on your first album give her like that's nuts, that all these What we just were hustling with became the institution. Not area, I think, are what we felt was actually very different than that ravings. What we felt was we meet. Rick were spending all this time in is, and why you dorm room and
can beats on. We know what were his drama: Sheen's and learning do his equipment and then going to this site crappy studio in Chinatown to start making our record with him, which became since the ill, as always, really this feeling of wearied it altogether. and the young. This is our click, and now we belong and yet written Russell are like Adam Muses term. A lot like They were are weird older brothers. You know, so we really have this like family thing or black feeling, and then you know at the bed. Then of course, look for solve. Were eighty nine years older than are also money comes into the thing and success and obviously in it, turns out what we want very different than what Russell Watts Russell just wants money. He wants it. Have you guys on the road pricing
this process to. I, like you, know like Circus ACT. You know I just keep performing and keep making people happy and its Pfeiffer parties. What makes people happy well then, just keep doing that. hear about it makes light for a party, and I don't want to talk to you until you done that again. If you guys ever thought about what your experience would be like had you been dealing with that as an individual, Recently I interviewed Alisha Keys and Cheryl Crow and like three or four be huge female artists, and they talk about like Helen's mainly isolating. It is like you're just on the road you're, never anywhere that yours and increasing
people around. You have different roles, it sounds like you. Maybe you guys would have been safeguarded from that in some way, as you had each other, but we even with with each other, didn't feel like you were losing touch with real life. For us here will again cause you. U fatigue, that's in the dark matter. You guys eventually did fatigue right. Yet it became completely surreal because it's like this thing that we're, especially in our case because it was like with Pfeiffer Party in and then Sir, having a play these roles. We talk about early, it's all sudden were expected to be that all the time will you guys were kind of making fun of, as you say, like frat fraternity, culture, and yet the show was made up of like brows there's a little this
since they're right like oh wow, they loved it, but it was. It was this weird feeling that, like kind of built up inside of us right, I was like holy shit. This is not the people that we saw the downtown New York City clubs on stage that inspired us that we so desperately wanted to become. we're on stage like wool. We're not that anymore. We're not like these people courageously making whatever they want to make were light now these actors doing thing that we only feel a part of not wholeheartedly that's the thing that was weird. It was, but it was a very surreal feeling that I think it's like that. Feeling is really what city just made us feel like. We need to take a break here, and then he does funny. Looking back at it just seems totally human.
ass just want to take a break at that point right we're like eighteen, nineteen years all we ve been on this may evaporate twenty. We ve been on it hamster wheel, trying to spin it around as fast as we can and we're just like go to Russell at Wheaton. Do we need a break from this? Now we can doing this and rustles like you, gotta make an make another record right away its side, completely knots when you look back at it. That's his lack of mature, At that point he didn't know out a manage for any kind of long term, because there what he hadn't been through any long term yet, but you go back to your question. Yes, definitely was a lot easier. rest a manage things as a group weighing friends and so being in the band, so If you are isolated as just a lead singer or solo performer, I dont know what that's like. It must be. Really it must be really lonely alot, because even when grew
things happen, you're still standing up, thereby yourself. You don't owe me yeah. You can't look next to you and go but while we share in this together, so it were really fortunate that it was the three of us doing it. Yeah bad things happen. You don't have that person to look over. There were just like it's a bad like theirs is dollar, If that happens, when you're in a band and probably our sole artists to this truly fucking. Weird pennies ads are absent. Wait till out of it out of the way tat. We can look at each other give each others look like this is weird to you as it is to me right now: fucking, weird and and then also reached. I get numb mail on that female, but I think for being a female, Opposition has got a suck even more beginner yeah. It's like there's, you ve got people there try to patronize you and the egg, protecting other things from new. It's gotta be worse, yeah, you're in a machine that tells you to put on a many skirt. You know-
at some point here, like one of the best singers and piano players alive in the tone you put on a miniskirt now the other thing I've always associated with you guys in knowing next to nothing. Once I watched a documentary is like you guys, do have this this kind of guiding ethics, and I knew that about you, even from the outside, like that trickled down. Even to me that you guys worth thinking about. Like were the rally cry for this group that do we want to be the rally cry for this group and what group would we like to be the rally cry for, and I think it's what's made- you guys really unique, and I imagine it's part of what sustains you guys through many many years of it is that you were constantly of. Are you waiting your role in all this and being self aware? It did Bob Are you that you are like feeling something an agree with right or that you maybe like you had written a song. That was,
by now standards massage monistic in and then Adam. You were quick to go like to own their and say I'm embarrassed by that. Like that, wasn't really I've never heard. I don't know Stephen Tyler come out, go like yeah, you know, I don't know. Maybe that line these events at we should we should cost even Tyler out. I dont want to arrive here right now. I am you should do one of those producer like beats battles, were Stephen Tyler, I just of trying to think of something to do, with Stephen Tyler get sick Here I ask you to say it's the grand Scat battle hell. Yes, obviously recently submitted blackness. scandals? When are you coming back? You know I don't. I haven't seen any for May, because a covert there that judges they're not they're, not out there right now coded
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Get help? I want to compare it to one of their group that I was fascinated with. Is the pulp Walter skaters in search for animal chin? Did you guys, like video. There was an infusion of comedy with you guys that was so great and it happened. It seems like we were, of a generation worth. That was the first time possible and you guys were leading it somehow in the musical front and there are other groups but and then even within skateboarding, like embracing comedy as part of it, I think is pretty regional at that time in some way, I'm honored for the comparison right, because we as like these New York City, kids, that, like we're gonna, say, boarding to get around and for us like, like power, Parada, those guys we're like huge. deals to us for us. The bean fund,
it was always important- still is important, just even like with spike through this whole process, like that stage show in the film weird kind of argue with them all the time is replaced with spyglasses funny enough, like his eyes, is really get to entertain, like that was always an important thing and I think there's something for us like as kids like Yoke, always love. Honey python and we all his kids growing up. We all had a copy of multi python, big red book, which the cover, of course famously is blue. He has one of the few books I actually owed kids, comedy wreckers now. Is that a thing that kid zoo now more than ever, they watch you two clips of commence. We had Cheech and charm records. We had Steve Martin records. We have Richard prior record. I had Charlie's wreckers, but you know play songs, and then you play comedy. They play music comedy and they go platinum. Those albums like there's some huge you comedy irony Dangerfield, come now
US handlers head, humongous communism's use- I am the last I Hanukkah saw were yeah yeah yeah Sandler was color private, less huge, comedy, album, probably Adam what interests you wow snacks snags. Someone was not right now I'll snacks. Why something else Adam puzzles I'd, say: you're an avid puzzle, doer, I'm fucking quarantined MIKE Why have I had to stay? I haven't done one puzzling quarantine, not one! You done. How knows how many MIKE? But you know you know what happened the other day like this, not talking you MIKE. I wish I could put my hand just over you. I gotta puzzle in the mail. with no no detached and its from MIKE That's nice, so sweet the.
He's got a new name thoughtful MIKE, was it a puzzle of you guys together you even a puzzle, of pig know. Our friend Janeiro actually made a puzzle of a mini puzzle of me in my eyes, Alice Green. That was great images. its snacks says. If what you want to Know- and I think right now- the top of the list is sour cream and uninstall mix an ruffles. Ah we journey is gonna. Believe this literally last week I went to the door and I got all the ship for french onion dip in ruffles. Early and we murder deafening emphasised bag and a job of it was a good has nothing and how do you feel describe how she felt both of you afterwards, a why was I bring down my horse up here? Alison MIKE used to alter my twenties. I was drunk seven days a week. Did Coke only
Seven eleven hot dogs fell for nominal now invited you're sober, I don't smoke. I do anything and eight ruffles and I'm down for a day it's insane how my body used to be so bulletproof and now I'm so sensitive to potato. Not I too, as I think I'll, do eyes. Why body I ate a bag, I don't wanna, say ruffles everyday. Sometimes it was wise. now as an entirely there is not a day right, an ice coolly when we meet up like the wreckage there's not a day that I didn't eat a bag of chips deal MIKE. I was not blocking how many bags ships you I thought you became a mood journeyman you're kidding me I think a I thought you were logging. My carbon take all the way back in nineteen Thursday February fourteenth MIKE. eating fucking chips? Again, he's gotta eat a vegetable. I keep begging him to eat a vets. Just won't. Do it? Ok,
I want to know how the dynamic between you three, because I have a similar friendship with three deeds? Are three of us two of em Aaron's and they have to go by their last names, weakling Tyrell and there's this beautiful synergy that exist between the three generally. I think three is a bad number for people cuz to always ganging up on one, but sometimes when it works. It's so phenomenal right. You can kind of pass that ball of, like agitation, can just be dissipated. Somehow, how did Y'Alls dynamic change when Adam died? Like what role did he? serve in the triangle that took adjusting. Well, I mean we stopped being a band, so there wasn't has much to do right. That's the short answer. How about when you guys working elegant? Did you rules from the document, or at least he seems to be kind of, like the spiritual,
wanderer of the group like that he was just, would get interested and stand up bass or you interested in recording and he'd know things and you guys were like Did you learn that cause we're together all the time? And yet he knows this thing, and we do so in such a clear role. It seems that he had it is but he also he had this older brother nets, which actually does come out of partially. They got to the fact that we were near all fifteen years all the fact that he is like more than a year older than me, and then two years older than Adam is actually a bit deal with here when you're flowers all, but that also an item- and I talk about this- often was it. We are the youngest of multi sibling, households right where they, yet both the youngest of three kids, yeah, like resists only child, so we one of our lives just been at the bottom
short straw bottom of the barrel of compromise right cuz, that's what you are when you're the youngest care, but yeah was free of all at so any idea, that he would have you just pursue without giving it. A second thought are questioning the process. Adamant. I had always question it because we knew like if we try to pursue something and we don't do it right, one of my older brothers going to make fun of a seconds I make me, feel horrible yeah, I'm a younger brother, and as I would be doing something I'm also actively planning my defence for when I get made fun of like I'm spending so much time. Only Harry my rebuttal to All- as I am doing the activity. A hundred per cent Andrews, calculating way until one of my older brother is gonna literally sit on me. I any so called you sexual produce yachts allows free of that.
Right! You just could go straight into the idea without any the luggage. Would you say that he led you guys in all these new directions? Cuz you got kept reinventing yourselves, or was it just this collective magic, where you guys were always curious and finding your for new places are yap, was more of a world traveller like when he said, and maybe he led the way for all three of us, but that the great thing- and I think one of the appreciation that avenue I have for us for that, though we had this whole long career as a group together, is that we we this this group, or we can all, go and learn stuff and bring it back in and and put it right into the songs and right into the music that we were making and an unlike advertise experience of like when we have a having older brother's. We it was like we, we actually supported each other. In that you know,
what's that, while this is all this out and I'm zoom low, you just learn how to use his chest function. Just now. Yeah I got it. I love you. I ever Chechnya, I haven't really I'm dislikes. There came a leg. I want to see it. It's no drat onto the group, hey you guys really say about MIKE oh wow, this is burst. First are an hour zoom podcast we no one's chatted. So far true you have to have two people on. Andrew Adam, I gotta say kudos kudos, you do, you know governor area search warrant. What I'm here for me, but it hurts me, As you know to compliment you had puzzled, but here's. What I'm getting at is that you guys had this incredible shared idea
indeed for years, and then, when you lose one member of that identity will first and obviously the ban goes away. But then I would imagine so much of your personal identity is tied to the band and what what kind of process you go through in the wake of that? What is the process of dealing with your one? Are you best friends, you ve seen basically every for thirty five years, crying yeah how fucked it never sure was known process, there's no in oh just this, if you can, if you have a specific process, I don't know what you're doing it right. It just comes out. You just said this book and said: there's no rhyme a reason to it, but I understand that people. The world know me because of this ban right, and so it is weird and it's it's a kind of unexplainable thing really because it goes back.
think of like am I me or am I the person who is this person in a band, and you know: what's the line? Is there a separation? You don't remember when your friend dies like there's knows: what's, there's no separation, the so it's just really fuckin said but even when you close your eyes, do you not think I'm a beastly boy like I was? I remember seeing Mick Jagger onstage saying something like if you want to learn to live a long time become a rolling stone and I was like oh yeah. He gets to see he, is a rolling stone. He is a downward and our brain Jones just saying well: on the bar we're going to build a broader point. End is crumbled but but but but but you know, I'm older women have been through a lot if beastie boys
look up and worn a ban. I you know I be o k like we figured out me out of my- could still be friends like you would just wouldn't be doing this thing. We were very successful. I'm very happy, I'm in my life, so I'm ok, yeah. You know domain, but it said it's just said yeah. Why? Daddy is puzzled sad because in talking about like even at that, To that end, when Yak was doing treatments for his cancer nose like we would go to the studio every day because he wanted to, because that was the thing like we wanted to be around each other at all in Somalia with MR alive, and we had stopped being a bad. It wouldn't have been because we didn't want to be with each other. it would have been somehow. Maybe we didn't region he'll, genuine or authentic, and making music or so whatever. Or will you just more interest that whatever the thing would have been, but it wouldn't have been because we didn't want to be he was each other and I think more probable
anything else? We would still keep doing it because we really look forward to that time of being with each other and, lastly, the unique thing in this whole weird frigates, friggin thing than we did for decades of our lives and I'm gonna some there could be really offensive and I apologise, but I just I'm not hip to it I'm in the comedy of big big disclaimer big disclaimer are used. I guess making music that the plenum afraid gonna offend you, don't No know why bad because, you gotta go like solo hit, albums that I missed and then all right, yeah yeah. I know I didn't want it. Like your wife their backer, and I don't know about our manage my personal management talked about this. It that's why I'm doing this twenty agreeing to do this. You are obviously not a fan of the Ella, Philharmonic or poetry. Slams get isn't it. I know what I'm doing all the time MIKE my guess. It's just that You work out in Laird, Hamilton's pool. That's my singular gas about what you're doing
put some time in there and what you think I'm doing eating fuckin ruffles, my basement I'll have a basement so I gotta think boy. Let me look at me. I'm gonna make a pretty girl you ass! Well, let me there's s mighty. Have you ever worked out? Lord Hamiltons bore for real question for real, yes, That's a pretty and analysing gallery. I dont know layer. You're probably knew already. I dont know I did not know that out of urine Pasadena, so my guess reuse, one. Your neighbours is like alleging that J, p l and you ve gone over to the jet propulsion laboratory and taken a tour. This has happened, I have not read for marine, though not my neighbour, somebody met once was like. I work a jet propulsion lab out. Like oh shit. I really want to go. He said Mars. Rover is their yeah So you were right
you wouldn't go see the Mars Rover. I vendor to JPL cuz Movie about had a lot to GPS, shade I got to go there and talk to people so you written a movie that J p I have to sign. This is totally tangential. Add with Adam on this zoom call its extremely dangerous for me to even going, this territory, so I'll give it a disclaimer that I might have to text you afterwards, like our erase the without all hard disk now. Well is the thing Are you saying that I masturbating right now the beggar ruffles on the couch? I knew it. I knew that I favour the chair. I did not put that the chat wasn't that Japan, started by one guy, unlike his serve counterpart or or that that was doing something else was l, Run Hubbard, Scientology, J P,
connection well Andy on no other Alister Crawley and they were all in the right you in a hole in like yeah, twenties and thirties and ally. I just read strange angels, I forget the guy's name, but guess he basically was. It was into science fiction and all those guys gonna, like they'll, run hub because he wrote only signs. Ocean in this guy was blowing shit up in the Arroyo in Pasadena, and he was the only person that had a sense of what kind of rocket fuel would make the rockets work. So he was brought and he wasn't an academic, but he became like the best engineer there and he ultimately blew himself up in his garage in Pasadena and died, but I wish I could remember his name but chat, but I can't read it and everyone hey guys. I'm really! Sorry hi guys over the actual zoom games rigid ever it is. Do I you know who's Diane comedian.
Google Chrome is she's made reformer and me in Brigitte, and our friends were playing but had a ban for, while those blending music and comedy and Oh, I want you to know that yeah here that so there you go, where, where hold on land, the playing on that wherever you Roy with that, God I'm right now you what he's been doing since I give you these questions starts and questions, and then it's like another five minutes, a tangents announced. I'm trying to keep. I am trying to land playing on China like hold it it all by other speakers, tangents jotted, Judy Gottman. Oh yeah yeah fan and I Oh that's hard cash to involve you, listen to the eye with him yeah I aspire to do the things that are recommending in our shared.
That smart, the Gormans. It's really interesting like me, that's what his hopes. Or that he was as MIT mathematician. My therapist give me like materials from the governments Institute. but I didn't know his background of being at MIT a mathematician and then applying statistical research to relationships with job just seems to make all of us in the world. So, as I don't know what this is all unwanted. Twenty aside, this is real tanned. Until I can give you Adam, though one liner that I'll have you interested, so he can watch he's been studying since the eighties married couples have conversations films them. He can predict with eighty percent accuracy within five minutes of watching them too, If they'll get divorced, I can too it's? What I do know you ve got a pity me tell me that's difficult. I think it's difficult yet I watched you people too for five minutes ago, you're gonna make it or not and to be right. You can't you tell me you can't do that. I bet I could do
like yours- and you just said that you knew what type of person I am and writing. It is make the couple accurate. Printing made a couple of days and lose were yet, but I think that leans more, that I'm a savant like John the Ottoman adjust, it was random and everyone could do it. Can you guess I have I've done. I just picked two spectacular events. Happened almost no one working on and learn pool in Turin, J, J, P l do make a prediction about now: I got. I've got one hundred percent. Ok, you worked on. Building our own motorcycle, but did not you did not act Complete it by yourself, side needed help, my God, and that is not right, but what a great underhand ass. Yet no, I mostly work on cars and I complete them. and you ve written that motorcycle should eventually got completed.
Somebody else's help. I'm stay my conviction, I as old old cars and new motorcycles, because I don't I want to have a part fall off on a two wheeler water, arise out of my wheels off now guys we're alone. you have the label and you guys ended up putting out K. So they have this beautiful part of the document or Monaco even see the beginning, but their their best friend when they were kids was this gale Kate and she played the drums they were all together and they very honestly on the fact that they just dumped her when they got involved with ruminant in Russell Salmon and the name terrible about it, and then they went to a mutual friends funeral and it can all brought them back together in she by your guises admission, which is totally cool, ready to pick back up and no hard feelings. You guys got close again and then they ended up starting a label and put out her music allow lovely story, no net? Why
to add a chapter. She now works for James Cordon Oh and we were on James Corden to look a couple weeks ago and then I was like she got a funny because she did the pre interview with us and we got whereas Jesus really old friend of ours having to ask us to do her job right, but to be on top of more it was the interesting talking, you're them, because I give her just so much credit. She really doesn't harbour any ill well. She really is, I totally firewood being friends and the kindest way she has every right to fear. However, she was to she's pissed off. You can be totally pissed, basically we went low and she went high and it's you know she's great person, Emerald lucky to be friends with the last thing I want to talk about is how cute you were Adam. I mean so cute, but you were out. You know it is our is that I never went into that. Like hunk phase. Can we talk about you? You are for second, I know I know what happened. I know
However, I should have worked out or sensation shit, it's not too late. I let you go to pool you got to get over there, the arrogant to go to middle earliest. His poor, you're, going to stare at he and his wife's beautiful physique and just gonna fuck I'll, never looked like this. Let's do it now. Let you do that Europe is now. Did you want to be an actor. I did you d idea in eighty four. A couple years I was going on, an agent was going on additions and all of us of yeah, and it turns out on a pretty bad actor. I guess up. Do you think of yourself is retired. I fantasize about tiring pretty often, and then I wonder like they might under estimating how much self esteem I get out of working.
is anyone. I know who takes away very little self esteem in any the work you do, and you are good at what you do. It's you. You suffer from zero esteem. Take away here, make their what gives you a steam Adam you're, my fucking, chicken wings, I'm battling it right now. Yes, are you using air friar? I just bacon. I gotta say something with my job. Ok rub. Can I war you to get a air framework, as I also have been making wings for a decade in this air friar. Is it turned the world upside down? For me, out of the air fry it both of you is Breton involved. Help no yo, I made ruffles coded chicken the other night. We should Are you sobering calling the soup dry soup as part of the Nano ruffles just the chips? Outrageous grotto you! So you just grind irrelevant dyslexia, pound the baggage ships. It's all is shaken. Vague
ass. He put the actually put the chicken pieces, in the barrier: ruffles, oh yeah. She grew up around. As you know, you have to put in the flower in the end, this do no better knowledge of shake it up, put it in your egg wash and then put those in your ruffles but being a lot of them, and then you put that big The whole depresses Dax year has a innovation that he thinks we would both by air fry. Ok, so here's what you do you open up their thing, a wings. put this dry Robin it says spicy one and then I sprayed with olive oil. A dumb, in the area. I hit one button. Twenty minutes later, you would
where to God they came out of a deep prior, it's the caress be askin. You ve ever tasted in the fuckin meet could not be damper. Really, God it's the moisture, meet I've ever had in my life. It's Christmas envoys and you can't you ain't. You can even put it in their longer than they recommend it. Just gets Chris Beer and never loses the moisture at its heart of it doesn't have a skin like fried chicken has a scan. Let's be fair. How about that right leg. It you got like k of sea. Is not this saying, there's no brother right exactly, but it is Chris be, and it is moist and it is dullish. I've really recommend you get yourself a Philips, worn out sponsored by them, but if the I've gotten love for them and that's definitely the best wanted smaller you're gonna make smaller batches use deal with it, but that the product is to die for given them out as presents because I got a big enough. I got
small one like this is amazing, but I can only make six wings at a time. So then I got this huge. One knows I says how no yet its curling this socks so that and then Evanna Philips came up with an x, x, elvers and I can prevent make about ten wings at once. Now I can live with that and I just do batches so I eat him for twenty minutes as the next bad is cooking. Ok, if you know, if you want to send one over, I have bought several forefront, already put me on the list are ok I'll get a whole. You threw wags sisters, yes, Sir, its launch, or does it just call up the Polaris deal there was of you guys and the documentary is fantastic. It really really is fun and I learned so so much. I guess my only this is a juicy question. Did you guys in them bad terms? those guys or just we hardly out within you
but didn't you ran over the years and are now I harbour resentment yield on two things differently. You do as that's like a character traits free You know as part of the? U thing, I've been grumpy, having resentments. That's like ass. You go to do I look like I'm getting. Can Can I give you the same? We say a lot: maybe it's exist elsewhere, but having resentments is like drinking poison, hoping, enemy dies near. I found that to be painful.
true, but you know it is true. It is true. I actually don't you know, people that I personally Toma me have had falling out with or in a whatever it doesn't effect. My life. You know I mean like Rick Reuben. Do you think Russia citizens would like at the time? I was very angry and her now that's like we are in the sense that they want to talk about before that it it just felt so much like families have people. You thought had your back and that were doing this thing. If you to then be, I pay will be, I don't do this all the screw you and also in full disclosure got. You know, I'm friends with Rick Right Russell I haven't seen in years and no idea I think it back at you and Rick also became disenchanted swim around the same time we did and he bounced out of the hole deficit,
thing in Egypt? Do is no longer something he wanted to be part of the inner. He also said I do think this is an interesting thing is ultimately Rick said this to me like after coming to see with where the early adoration so became this film is ITALY? No cried the reason we can still, talk about it is that, like we is a ban, we got what we wanted. We want or Yahoo site make what we want to make an be friends, and that means Rick Rick statement was like you. Guys became this icon band and he's like. I was wanting to be a producer, and I got to be this producer work with all these different artist. So I'm really grateful I had that needs like it. Rustled want to get paid any got paid right. Everyone gonna get got what they wanted. I mean first, the small amount of time it did benefit each other, and then that is interesting as I could then explode yeah we're all buncher reasons, and then everybody go their own way and gets.
They want you, guys were all very young. Nowhere, really young enough Minos. Only one nineteen certainly didn't have a communication skills. Don't blame yourself for these things MIKE? It's not you! It's not me for sure. It's not you They stopped paying your royalty Daggett resolve. Did you guys have to sue them? I assume you got paid unlicensed ill right. I got nervous. No, we get told Screwed over did not like ITALY, where that we got all good over and we had to sue everybody everybody it suits us I brought then! Yes, eventually, you don't deaf jammed got bought by universal. We have got on make a lot of money on by we shall we we make a lot of money for universal, though right inversely. They then now we get paid like a normal artist, would from a real company that actually pay people there, s good all's well that ends well. I guess in that way our eye guys what
so much for talking with us, and I hope everyone checks out the you just type in beastie boys. Don't even worry about the title type in beastie, boys and you're, going to it first thing it's going to pop up. Is this documentary it's really well made and it's a super interest Dorie in because what can one? What are you having a senior attic yeah now attic office? What are we? What are we supposed to do with the ASEAN? MIKE's what you been other than truly love. It's a present from armchair expert, happy birthday and Merry Christmas Oh man. Thank you! So nice, I assume you guys have access to microphones, I felt like a lot was insinuated when this arrived by guys lie by by day to arm chair. If you dare we are so.
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few of Cuba. The verdict argued on stage in the document on the aid, and I only saw a little bit of it, but I want to keep watching. I looked good, who so much very foolish but Spike Jones boy what them over. I now varied. You brought it up right, it's just so cool how bathed they ve run across all these people in their careers who end up being just the bearing of ass the at or would I don't think they take credit for it as much? But that's a thing. That's a thing when you draw talent of that seals almost like the secret or some very, very cool. Ok. So before we talk about heights, alot robber plant, you said is definitely over six feet and they said definitely not. We talked about this on the show in the south, but
yeah, the internet. So six one, I don't know what to tell him well know what to tell him what this double confirms. His eye, I saw him in in Manhattan, and he was quite all I know is what we were saying: science, but we were wondering if he had lived in his shoes now if Wikipedia accounted lives in your shoes, oh by the way I think he might have had lives in issues because of these six for eyes, I'd swear. He was six two or three. If he's really six one, and then he had a little help. That makes sense. Maybe we're like a boot yeah Roger Lot relied boots. I can't do it, it's you. like boots yeah. I guess your mind will ever tried cowboy boots on I've. Never under pair of cowboy, but have you ever tried them on? Yeah they hurt you I've never on them, but I've tried them on had to wear them in movies. Something- and I look ridiculous in them. It's not a look. I can pull out for staying some guy, you see them in the cabin
that looks totally right, develop to shore or something it is preposterous. On my own, I guess mages off brand for me cowboy, I don't know all you wear a cowboy had now. That's true, but that's just for Son protection is the most practical of all the sunshine at sale share One sombrero does a pretty heavy yeah you're like all rider on the yard on the quad, with a cowboy had. I couldn't do that with some rare on him rip right off, yet those there very yeah. Why very, very huge radios, yeah! so we'll never know about Wikipedia and what they include, and nor do we know. So we had to differing opinions that we went to the internet in whose it was revealed that I was correct one now we'll never enough Wikipedia includes like boots in their height you now. I'm right, never know that it's true what story are lilliputian from. I said. Maybe Huck fan
that's wrong. They are from Gulliver's travel. Oh shit I knew was story sure remember what great, during when you read Gulliver's travelling, say six same same yeah. I think sex and I can still see the drawing in my head in the book really clearly of the little people who had strong him to the ground. That's lilliputian out as well will ashen their tiny and that's why? When people referred to somebody or something being lilliputian, it means tiny. Her small, ok in based solely on Gulliver's travels on your was Gulliver's travels revenue, teen twenty say. Oh, my God, yeah, I was written in the late. Seventy nine. I really do wonder I like to read some of those things say: six graver actually sounds really
yeah, I think I might even older than I was devilish. Ex greater rose and highland junior High knows why there in six grade. Do you think it got updated for language? If you like, you would sound Elizabeth and allow seventeen hundred Gulliver travelled to thy Fang vine. Ye ve boy. Did I suck at those? Do you guys have to do Shakespearian, bra Shakespeare Empire that law I would have been bad at I bad, but I did take Shakespeare like in college and acting class. I took ass Shakespeare class in year and you had to play someone like a character, Shakespeare character, those opposite a you know my conflicting, some story, ass, tat me. Ok, I'm! I guess I'm inflating the story where you had to play some one else in your class, the dune impersonation of someone
Senor acting class- oh yeah, I'd cubes zealously, so accurate. I was so good and so in point that this facility- oh so we talk about comedy, bombs and he was like two people, even listen, the comedy albums any more. There are still comedy albums made because I saw some a list of like top calmly albums this year knows in two thousand eighteen. But when you look at that list, I'm sure all those people are amazing, but it's not like the top comedians are doing comedy, albums right, they're doing special such right. The comedy album was the special exactly recharged. When you couldn't really watch now, we ve moved too
Netflix Special yeah. They did you get him like an historically who thy feeling Steve Martin had the biggest. I can look right now like sold. You know like what I got real rock band that era, what a soul top twenty by signing. This has Adam Sandler yeah. I know that's a big one as number one awhile over two million Our number two Jeff Fox Worthy O three Jeff Fox. Where He is, you might be a redneck if yeah, you might be run. I get this three two is games. Rednecks play, as far as we are now owe them exudes bad here day. Five is another. Sandler they're all been a laugh at you. I remember that one car sixes beavis him, but had the beavis in Bud headings buryin wow. Lastly, Martin seven, Dame Cook or tallying Shan Cookie monster a Dane Cook, harmful of swallow
nine, the Jerky boys loved. Really all my other was my favorite. Oh yeah. I allow you don't know the jerky boys, among other points phone calls there. So you know when, I was young when Fox Worthy hit the scene, like maybe thirteen or something- and I thought those redneck jokes were so funny, and I memorized above at one at one point, one of whom was, if you're my I'm doesn't remove the Marlborough Red cigarette from her lip, as she tells the state trooper to kiss her ass. You might just be Oh wow get wow Ten and eleven are also we are now twelve is Larry. The cable guy. Thirteen and fourteen are Larry. The cable guy fifteen Jerry Cloud So I went on a u so tour to Afghanistan. Task understand seven, and I think it was also seven and
we learned on this too, or that the next guess was gonna be Larry, the cable guy I that he was coming through the next week, and so they have you sign all this military equipment, and you see the names of all these other people who have visited on? U S old yours, like certain helicopter. Everyone signs are certain warhead in so every time I was asked to sign something I wrote: get her done deck chair because I thought, Larry, the cable guy most certainly rights get her done when every sign something I'm always gelatin and of a catch, for, I think of something to say share and I just took his and I like to think that he was so annoyed when he got there is like what the fuck am. I gonna write you, get her done or did put the day I don't recall, I don't think so because then I think what happens is he just also write his own catch fire?
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