- Welcome, welcome, welcome to Armchair Expert. I'm Dan Shepard and I'm joined by Mr. Mouse. - We're not together. - We're over a thousand miles apart. - And you drove there yourself in your big, big, big tour bus. - In Big Brown. Yes, and so as a disclaimer about this episode, we were knocked in the fucking dirt by Kate Beckinsale. Is that fair to say? - What's that mean? - We were bowled over. - Oh yeah, oh my God. She was so shockingly fun, smart, funny, beautiful. I mean, these are things that's, I can't even talk about it, I'm flummoxed. It was pretty overwhelming. Fucking went to Oxford, you know? Yeah. A bona fide genie. Okay, well you know her from the Underworld series and Van Helsing, Serendipity, which I forgot about and stepped in and...

A little bit as you'll know you didn't step in it you had the most amazing ding ding ding of all time well that's true when you don't know what's going on it's fun yeah yeah it was fun for you too because you both knew she was in serendipity anyways And of course Pearl Harbor. She has a new movie called Jolt where she plays the most kick-ass bouncer with a slightly murderous anger management problem. As we talked about, she basically got to play my dream role of someone who snaps all the time and handles their business physically. Yeah, you love that. So it's streaming on Amazon. Please enjoy Kate Beckinsale. Plus subscribers can listen to Armchair Expert early and ad-free right now. Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts. Or you can listen for free wherever you get your podcasts.

Have you ever done a podcast? First of all, never done a podcast. Have you ever listened to one? Yes, usually if it's involving. I have this to yours. - Oh you have? - I just wanted to check out what the fuck was going on. - What the fuck, what all the hubbub was about? It didn't live up to the hype, did it? - No, it was really, it was very pleasant. It was very pleasant. - Who did you listen to? - I did a few Prince Harry. See what you did to them? You and I? You have to as a Brit. Have to? Yeah. But at the end, I laid out this thing where I work with a British dude and he's super smart and we're generally on the same page. And his reaction to the Oprah interview was so different than like what mine was Right, which I couldn't put my finger on because we're kind of simpatico and then I realized like you can't underestimate patriotism is weird My family were all Trotskyists, so we weren't really like buying the tea towels on the Royal Wedding, you know, we were like selling socialist newspapers.

Yeah, you was a kid, right? You were pedaling. Not me. I mean, occasionally me, but we had sort of minors showing up at our door. The royal family really weren't a thing for us. However, it still sort of lives in you because you're from England. So, but the funny thing is about that interview is I feel like on a Monday you can watch it and be like, Oh my God, the most sympathetic ever. On a Tuesday you can be like shady. Depending on how you feel. - Depending on how you feel, like, we don't know any of these people. I don't know anyone involved. How the fuck do I have to have an opinion? The thing I'm taking home mostly is the older I get, I shouldn't presume to have an opinion about anything, even things that have happened to me. In my own life because there's always like somebody else's perspective. Yeah. You know what I mean? I totally agree with you and as I get older I trust my perspective lesson. - Less and less. - Truly, we're so fallible. - I miss that kind of absolutely.

There's one side to this situation only vibe I had in my twenties because now I'm just kind of like, yeah, I have no idea about everything and nor does anyone. And I feel a certain way politically, but then if you happen to try not to be in an echo chamber and watch the other side of it, you can go, I see where that could be persuasive. I'm not persuaded, but I can see it. Get it so that's a bit disconcerting yeah yes totally yeah so we've just become kind of more woolly and nervous I suppose but okay I found your childhood - Interesting, almost spy novel-esque. We start with the fact that both your parents were actors, which is novel in itself. And they supported you in themselves through that.