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Keri Russell

2019-12-16

Keri Russell (Felicity, Mission: Impossible III, The Americans) is an American actress and dancer. Keri visits the attic to discuss her time on the all new Mickey Mouse club, meeting Dax’s mom and sacrificing a normal childhood for work. She talks about being an introvert and Dax is thrilled about a childhood connection he has to her. The two discuss the need to privately re-charge at public events, the story of why Keri cut her hair on Felicity and they dissect the themes of loyalty and marriage in The Americans. 

This is an unofficial transcript meant for reference. Accuracy is not guaranteed.
Welcome to the programme called arm. Chair expert. I'm Dac Shepherd Monica pad men, and today we have carry Russell felicity fully. City, the Americans, waitress mission impossible, free and soon she will be in star wars, though rise of sky. Does that a good? So no listen! She is a power house on the Americans shares his Emily them. I can't speak to felicity cause, I simply didn't see it, but but but boy what? Oh, what a beautiful look people loved for less yes, you loved felicity. Well, I also didn't really want and carries, is a cool down to earth. Gal? Isn't she very as I loved her and you will to please enjoy Carrie Russell? We are supported by
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did you have like a flare for many different kinds like sometimes I want to look like a proper hillbilly. Sometimes I want to look like a message Q guy, and I am very style, have to like really figure that out. When you look at me, like I can. I just say one thing: this is a little much like these things didn't happen as one outfit, but in its totality before I left or I looked in the mirror site carries gonna. Think you're going for like up. no, no miracle, Eagle outfit or magazine. I know somebody wings does a redwing visit. Yes in, I know redwing! Ok, I was married to a carpenter. Ok, oh yes, on the internet. It was kind of elevated to contractor but he did everyone. I mean artists that that's the nicer term that you know you. I think carpenters, cooler, Visa is very great
the way we were just talking here day about the real history of the real man Jesus and we asking really where questions I did. He did let's go to the bathroom- did how far these kind of things potentially sacrilegious thanks, but the what we raised right over is knowing that he's a carpenter. Clearly, some people lived in homes built by Geez. and if you think, about the value that are Frank, Lloyd, Royal House gas, that is, I have demanding s holy how's leave something erected by the Lord that still standing. I now can you put a highly here said he was a carpenter cannon doesn't fit to him right, what's hard imagining what the tool Bell Tom yeah? You don't really think of him as being very muscular while he was caught Why are we all agree with our eyes hours and things? Do you re in on the cross?
but I think everyone that then was ripped they're just wasn't of calories actually right here we are eating Granada twinkies. Now there you have like some bright fruit for like three weeks a year you eat as much. How could a riot if it wasn't it in and it was warmer there Euro Mediterranean? Ok, maybe they have fresh fruit like six weeks a year. I am Pascal the other eating very clearly. I want to bring people up this beat on our friendship first, why there's two parties a year and in Hollywood Land one is the night. for the Oscars Party. One is like the night before the Amis Party. I believe that it was the latter correct, so we have one year and you were their cause. You and our net had a show together for half a second fox, I believe mature would create a programmer lights and you were the german around willing world friends and then you and I got to talking- and I was right,
dying to find out if what the reality of this kind of hometown lore about you, that I have that I grew up with. I want to know if it checked out, and here we go Monica you riding buckling one of my best friends growing up calling garlic who have you heard me talk about ever guitar player romance my life also. He, cousin Tony, who, at a young age, somehow got discovered and was on the all new Mickey Mouse Club, can't imagine what a shock wave this through our hunting that ring honour, manage Ryan, Gosling, Brittany, spear organ argue. These are all her cohort, sobered anyways carrion Tony were lovers for quite some time were lovers of the US. Allow describe them like the cover of a romance novel lovers, very, very wins where how old is seven star?
in that way. I started at fifteen Ok on your browser, seventeen, but there were nothing, was twelve to eighteen got it into a nineteen of us them. I want to hear about the love affair. Cost a great story, but mostly I just at this party, I was like the odds, This has been over inflated in my hometown. In that you guys may data for a week or two or something, but I'm just gonna, find out. I said, do up and remember Tony LUCA: it is Does he call, and in she goes? Oh, my god? Yes, I love them are used to go to Michigan all the time all the time I just got war. I got really excited than you seem to have a real sweet spot from Michigan. In your eyes. I have such a sweet spot from his skin, but for this nothing. I met your mom,
oh, I like sunburnt. Yes, oh my goodness in you, remember all about you. I've heard this for many people and by laughter United Connection with Michigan all right, and so we talked about that. I will you there do in Sundance, for which it was even before the unfortunate thing is. I started his secretly young and so before kind of thirty, it's all a blur you're, just like whom I can make out. Where sure I don't remember, adults do not I mean here, but they remember you cause. You were a kid. Although stories are sort of like where was I don't know, but I think it was even before waiters. I think it was the site of anger lagoons time all only Georgia or MIKE Mike Minder, MIKE Minder, who I love like finder, nice, human, you know it's funny as we live in an era where I was like. Oh, she worked with my when I was renewed by ETA, and am I I love might binder, and I was kind of like you know. It's now died
seed. Ask anyone like hey. How is your experiments with? I mean I've? Never you don't do that, but I have prepared at all times loans just like who we are so often I'll, be like. Oh, you were with my hero, blah blah blah actress ago, like yeah you're, not a great dude you ever know? It's it's an interesting time. I mean when we had this does not change in my closer, I asked him to from those on another. Only give me but you know speaking about actually we, this joke, which I find hilarious for women and men. You know when all that stuff comes out about. Do that, ass to in front of girls or whatever sure, right seats. it's amazing when you flip it right, so I've been in the car riding rounds to a different location with people I was working with another. It would be like me going into my trailer and be like no no
give him an estate may fingering my watch that far away ass it can by yeah the grocer. Is I've been here a problem in this now it so it would be so it's always symmetrical. Yes ma. I would hearken to guess that ninety six percent of guys, who would love to witness this well like what you would do now want. I want our guys, like an take donor, phantom, be like to check this out. Well. Can I got out the door in the region, living in prison. I can't imagine a world in which I would thank. The utmost. Strains are like in fact mean alive, I'm having sex with, they would never impulse by right, like you don't impulse in my writing. This is a power. This is as it is. I think it's actually a mechanical thing out how I think it's a mechanical thing, which is that women have to take something,
to their minds and men are just putting out, and I think it's a physical thing. You have to trust this person back and enough yeah. But that's what I mean by power like no zig, relinquished, some powered sue. The man broke, the man never hast and do that. Well, you know and so he drew up we're talking to him. He perfectly illustrated this issue. He cites the very famous day where they asked college age, kids, both women and men- hey they send out an attractive. You know someone of the opposite sex, since it would like to have sex right now, I'm basically the guy said yes like ninety percent of time, and the girls never said yes, so that together we didn't at that time was o disguise or horny are right, but there was a fire. What study a secondary study more recent, were they controlled for everything, so they controlled first safety. There was
be a rule. I forget how they did that were used in her inner same apartment building and it was control and there was gonna, be no one find out that there be no sweat shaming, like they control all the variables that are threatening to women, because we live in a very violent society towards women it once those were taken off the table. Women said yes, much more frequently isn't uninteresting, isn't it then see as other women don't want to have set now. Just there's a there is more of a fear. Maybe it's a little more involved, yeah complicated, yeah yeah, but believe that, even though I agree with that study in his point, ultimately, I also on top of that think. Deeds are much more willing to just fuck anything. Yes, even if they felt not so say we give a around moves on grinder who enters a lot of. Not save situations were above like while that's ok, ok, you walked in. There is three guys and right one guy synod it's a little more meals dude on duties is just an easier.
strange man alive sure bottom line. I remember, being people I loved the in London and, as I cut goes mainly been, did I ever knew that I just saw him on the street. No words just met up oh hooked. Up like we don't do that as much, I mean people, you do it. I lay there are an occasional get so back to him. Monsieur lack, so I was very delighted to see that you both remembered clear, and All of it was a sensational, as I had hoped in my head and then on top that both Christian in an eye independently, owing we got in the like, a very shiny human being, isn't she she is very charismatic and attractive we're both very diary attracted to you, I mean I know my own roadway Al Jazeera, but we had a long chat about it. It sounds like you were in how infectious you're, so so nice, I'm not shining.
at all. You are, but under I'm incredibly nervous at those things and in fact I think I had a martini, isn't it, I never drink anything other than beer and wine, and I think I am a martini. And I think it may be more time, but I remember talking to you guys in your so warm I remember I brought up this story that I've replayed later over and over, like talk so much like, I was on the way you talk so much killing myself, because coals mom and Tony's mom or sisters they like one of twelve kids. there may be in a jazz, banned or somethin saying groaning. Just we're all can play everything they can seeing. Their leg is really
I know that you are really great. I spent my somewheres in Michigan am Chris was like everything so they're all this brother James became a hippie, unlike left kind of in digital hole on life and am had these three boys and he's a true hippy, and he is kind of amazing and he would sit down at dinner with you. and say insisting that what do you do? You know he'd say what excites you and I'm not going. I don't know, but I think I brought that's hurry up and then I remember thinking talks How did you say they dont worry you're? That's it so refreshing to know that everyone leaves parties in like replace the whole. Like. I don't love thing
now you grew up in Orange County or at least you were born and brought home from the hospital, and I was born in Felton Valley, California, and then I moved to Arizona when I was like one until I was thirteen was in Arizona. Ok in so David, your dad, he worked for Nissan you for Nissan, so was what was dead occupation was here and you ve, never our market as friends make fun of them. When I say this, but I call him like a suit ferny son, but to me he wore a suit and he like left the house, but he didn't sell cars he's at. He was like a like a parts manager, and so he would leave you know he was at the house at three days a week driving to Like Kingston, Arizona and Flagstaff Arizona, and when the parent, let alone the like, writing the report's ok. We rarely word for corporate according to monitor the men he had his own prominently in. He made sure. Ok, my father's old cars at dealerships my whole has a carcass
yeah and then mom was a homemaker up. Ok then mean you're older brother at heart, rather as he knows any little sister casually. Ok, now, You didn't you didn't just stop in Arizona, though right cause. Now you guys want to Texas. We went to Colorado for high school early high school and then I started working on them you did that Jude in Orlando around the idea that in ok so backup. So that's a lot of moving, and how did you take to that social if you left, when you are what thirteen or fourteen about Colorado, that's a pretty significant age to start over I think the air I wish I had to start over a lot and it takes a certain kid unit was harder on other of my siblings, but I was sort of loner anyway, so I mean I had a best friend in Arizona that I grew up with, but then I'm not like super gregarious or I can keep them
Self, anyway, a ha so you're an introverted. Yes, it was ok. I mean it's easier for interprets made me. Oh yeah, maybe I don't doubt it's easy for any yeah, but your day unseen. That was a hobby of yours. Yes, then I in Colorado got super involved in dance, and that was kind of my sport and that's all I did like from three in the afternoon until nine o clock at night. What kind of dance the every kind linked to my parents have a ton of money, so I got a scholarship at a studio and you'd have to go in and like cling the bathrooms and sweep the floors or whatever, but then you'd have to take a certain requirement of classes, so half of them have to be ballet jazz, like whatever, but that's kind of what I did
author. My teenage years did you do any extra Kircher all high school activity based round that, were you only palm squatter cheer and if I wasn't so so in a so like single minded and succeeding at that at the end. So at that time to do a fantasies of being like age, a professional violence, or, I guess, selling. That's all I care about only kept me out of a like a lot of trouble right. I think I would have been just keeps you have trouble with you yeah. Well, you have to find a different group that would have accepted you yeah. If your shy exactly I just did that and I did on the weekends. I did it all the time, so I didn't have to totally fine mine my web, when you're, imagining being a professional dancer. I don't really know that means that mean you dance on Broadway. Does that mean your Mikhail burgeoning? Are you in the bows it's a really sure, although music videos of sort of back in a way that, like rye growing up, do you really
tv. All those like that there was a fly. Yours I like there was a really cool girl them carry on that sure that would have been sort of five. By and by the way, men back. The way when you're thirty your body so racked yeah, so in a way that they had the best of all worlds, because I was snatched out of that and then got to transfer before I broke My body in a way that right and I didn't have anything else kind of going on, but was acting in that mix, not at all just dance, just dance, ok, so, first, while how'd you get discovered by Disney, you go to a giant casting call that like, of kids yeah within all my little dance forever in Colorado in Colorado, Disney's famous for doing these, like they don't want, like the studio, kids in New York or train who are slick they want like real
like the fishing area, rioting, Ireland from Toronto. You know it's funny. I still see have occasion. I was like Enigma he's like like guys dies. Why? Wouldn't you claimed back so amazing? I do want to talk about a lot of people, think feel I got something they have to shed and let it go all the gold doing bell, Biv, Devoe, wraps I'm sorry I again during the address was the Roger rabbit and run doesn't get better, so you go to some conventions enter, I assume, or some regency, your exacting. You wait for hours with your friends and everyone's like waiting like their hair done up or whatever their doing fifteen and little kids in seeing and all this stuff are you send out the competition like all our girls defiling
again, I ve no, not at all like I'm sure I've just like what are you guys doing? Ok, I've never done this before of gray and I go in and I do like a nerdy little dance and then who, by the way that casting director some should make something. MECCA Assyrian Adam. He goes like little girl. You gonna sing. A song read like as scared about a mermaid and some recycle spoke shut out on visas. I want to sing a song, and I said, oh no, I don't sing any said. Do you want to look at how many little kids are lined up outside there and you're? To tell me, you don't want to sing- and I said I don't sing. And then he brought me back anyway. Why menacing like happy, but they do want to make sure you can carry it like Verona tie would fail.
Let me to basically using it well enough to be again was it I guess, maybe that's so after the first round how many people were brought back, do you know, then you are invited where you got who, with your apparent and the creepy thing about the shower, maybe the good thing. Is they also interview your parents yeah? That's a good idea. It is because, in turn in solemn org, yeah as some have all parents or Yanks. Then there were around like twenty of us and they did two of those was that in a different city are still in Denver We went to allay to do it all my grounds. It gets going excited like its total playoffs yeah, I'm sure the parents who like why haven't, even if my kids gonna make, get in your mom like out of ten ten, as she would have been like a rabbit stage, mom zero. She doesn't want you to do where she and that on the spectrum, I think they were just ignore, I think I hear nothing. I remain. where we had to sign contracts before you and my parents. What you gonna make money like
This is a lot of mutton. My parents were couldn't thousands of dollars a week, let's yeah yeah. It was crazy how many of you come into the new cast? Ok, if there's nineteen total that summit musketeers. There are yet raising using the radium analogy. This nonsense, Ok, I think they're. Maybe seven of us knew some really like amazing singers? Ok, now that the timber leg, the bridge, yeah spears and the Rhine Gosling. They were already they had left, they were there or they were behind you. I think they were part of the new kids. They came in the I guess they were a part of our group. you're all twelve, and I was seven zillion really have time for them. I could do these are daily like that,
baby lay in fact I baby sat Britney spears, little sister, when all sure sure you know what I mean like they were little kids yeah we're sweet little kids, because really, when you look at that group of people, it's almost like being one of the peak years of certain live cast wise is horse who ended up behind a bizarre yields. Incredible group of kids of it all Come you hugely successful yeah, so they put unit Parmesan was wondering: are you in a hotel? Do live EPCOT Centre? What's going on, The crazy thing will you have to find you in housing? Ok, so its super low fi. So they're, like you, know, you're on the show, but you have to find a place to live and your income is barely enough to come an apartment, but you should work at all right. I thought it was such a coup. Sperience, like. Oh, my god, it's a sucks who does mom have to bring Todd
Julie, so they would come for this summer's ok. So we would all get these things called silver passes, which gets you and to the point that you guys probably have well. It will decide not my mom working for General motors. They launch the Chevalier alumina at Disneyworld, so GM bought like I don't know how much that thing costs for them to colbrand with Disney, We launched the car there. We were therefore like ten days and we were given my brother and I these all access This is an these credit cards. It of free concessions on yeah. We would just sprint when it would open to space mountain right at ten times and eat for two hours and then exactly see we win new work for Disney. They give you something called a silver pass, which means you get in and the number of the members of your family for free so every day this is what it was like. If you ask of everyday before work like before nine, an we'd meet some other cast
members, a family that was visiting from their home town, get their entire family in a free line up to get the kids it like. I have five five, family there were, some of us would have six. He will get in all these people for from Texas or whatever, and then we'd go to work. But my brother would take my silver pass and, just like do asked with his friends already offer him her, oh, whose hilarious the whole year, you're there, no just the summer, so adjust the summit. I think I think I would be out of school like a month and then I'd have to go back God it ok. So what you were back and forth was back and forth a little, but what was it like to be in the grind of high school? Like say, tenth grade going like cars
we should get oversight got liquors. What a different life you have your hot shot in Florida. You have autonomy, you ve got you some money, money yeah, you! Basically your own plays yeah and then you're stuck back in school back in reality. You could hold both thoughts right because there's a part of me that really craved like I never went to school dance or like. There were little things that I missed, which I think continued into my twenties. When I worked on felicity, I'm so grateful for all my experiences, but I think you did pay some price. You miss software ever there's always a price. So I mean you know when my girlfriend talks about going to summer camp.
Summer Camp. Well what I was going to say, as you you're gonna, living in to dramatically different cultures, one during the summer, which is all kind of arts in a room of singing and dancing and expressing and then you're going back to Colorado, but that year force, I think, Disney, because I was under their umbrella like the old studious system here. So they put me in it. Like a re part, two or something of honey? I shrink the kit honey, you're hot you aren't honeybee. I blew up the kids, so I did that during the week and then I would fly the red eye on a Friday and shoot the Saturday with the Mickey Mouse CUP and the light back on Sunday night and I remember ice to cry on the plane. I just wanted to be run the kids, because on the movie, which is me and adults with rights by the way was so uncool like, like the crooked, were getting drunk and doing fun things and we were like,
earning danced numbers and meeting boys to man and of such a cadets. The clipboard able fascinated by you back in high school and you return to reality I feel like. I would have been very curious about the fact that you are until went away to our land. I don't think so in a mist is, I feel, like you might have missed it. I mean it's not that core it is more like a thing now. I think big school. I know you do, but I moist Monica fight all the time I'm like there's. So many boys were giving you rhythm and you missed it. I just but I didn't know I know for sure, but Like the star, the soccer team. I think that would have been a bigger de whoever keg party, but just a General interest in you had to have exist. Yeah, I think so wouldn't you and Tony fall for each other seasonal, I'm good.
I mean your mom you're at their school. Then? Why now- and I don't know- I just had to move to Mitch again and you can a man whom anew own ringing and going like you know that girl from felicity bad Tony's girlfriend that shit so you're only magazines and shares the opening it was not possible talented by there were, of course he saw an opposite. I think of parenthood. He came in love for you. I want to say that our music yoke, as we would have all these different musicians on that you can like James Taylor, I mean he's so he can play anything in play. Pierre is it's like a so you know, I don't even know that I know am I just some very good friends will call- and I think I met him a couple times, but I've inflated that over the years back when he was really famous- and I had nothing Nicolet cling to- I think and act
like we are really time is a sound proposal and so talent, but he spoke and sweet and then suddenly met not impair unparalleled. I kind of found myself in this position is like, I think, have acted like we're. Really friends and are now realising were neither gonna, be ok with that totally. Ok with that, ok to gigantic goes far enough. First season season, one of Mickey Mouse, remember I couldn't support, because I want to know when you're going back. Are you not only going back to reality but you're? Also, like you, have a long term relationship you're juggling and your on your on tv and some guys oh yeah, cognisant of her not were definitely interested in you. I think we were like made out, or I don't know what you do, but I think we became boyfriend girlfriend later when we were a little bit older and then like seas,
three of she doesn't remember that they could not get hypnotists. I now the hypnotist identity undersea like or did you drive when you first it I'm gonna get her there mom, I remember driving. You know, you know what no I data and not its five major breakthrough, Frank. I ok, slightly old, cordial, using high go out Albert our fields, who was a part of this like branch off who is like this cool dude who, for my poor mother stress, about a strap course does you're in show business now coming home it like five, I mean it. I was wild Tony was the nice guy that I like ended up with the dead Alber. Wasn't nice year, the union of domain names, but was there any like around she? Behind seems like we're, because what I've seen worse, of course, have met a couple different Disney stars through sobriety. Let's say the horse and some pretty hard fuckin goings on yeah wrought iron
no. It wasn't like that crowd. Wasn't that crazy, now they or their prevailing nerdy nice. Kid, oh good, except that the drag is at about seventeen. All the girls would get like booted with the guys could stay till they were like twenty five may I bet exaggeration, what do you suppose, because girls they're like sex all eyes and they don't they don't want them. No big boot. During an all of that, or should I say, ok now when It was coming to an end and you knew is going to come to an end, obviously you're, eighteen when it ended yakking. I couple it off at seventy seventeen.
So was it something that while you were approaching, that did you grow like oh? I want to continue to do this. I want to continue to make a living doing this and had you redirected your desire to be strictly a dancer into not just wanna be a performer. What kind of plans you have for yourself as egg? I was seventeen. I graduated high school early, because if you are in any way that a decent student, you could graduate earth, can you do it as fast as you could at this? Like onset terrier, yellow so I did and moved to allay at seventeen. Did you get emancipated Regis Whim or did mom come with you? I think someone drove neighbour than I was there a wow will. You already been doing, yeah, I guess you had a lot of practice, yeah being independent. At that point, yeah I was pretty independent, but still you have to kill you three kids. I threw kit. I can't imagine- and I wasn't world of craziness. Already too, like I was why
I was in Okinawa, nobody is talking about. I wasn't even a party I was, as I would hate to think of my daughter oak and some of these. It you uncle fuck. You know what I mean I I just was in adult situations a little bit error. I just feel like in over my head. I'm glad I'm! Ok, you live animals, stay tuned arm chair armchair expert, if you dare, we are supported by baroque linen broken linens, of course, are my favorite sheets, your spent in a thirty year life in sheets Why don't you make it insanely comfortable in this house season, maybe it's time to give the ones you love or yourself with then a little cozier like betting lounge, where towels and more their mission
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you show out is isolating gas story on there and then felicity was probably the twenty one really quick The tone exists interviews, I gotta come clear. Amiss again: did you guys go here? now I know yeah, oh you did ok out, we can live together, are so good just worried about how long we were animal little worried about your safety, something maybe we're arrogant, and then I live yeah Tony for a long time you didn't will ever lived. Oakwood, though, did you I did from. Moment. Here's the other thing we love love would apologise, but I live when I lived there. I think I was doing that movie with my mom, ok there and they got a buffet breakfast. We understand that we have now been. Sadly, I never saw that how you are told there are lots of don't. I know such a creepy place. Rave will enable creepy, kids there's a lot of different expire Does that come out of their soils like the highlighted there? It was so far yet like my arm. I did this movies a thorough with this little boy Judge Hutcherson, whose now huge Macgregor,
and when I met him, I would go pick him up at the nowhere department and take him to like this card. You know I was when we work together here. He loved you want me to come for breakfast. They had like this terrible buffet member this at I would like all like waffles and doughnuts in shit stuff. You will get a high mental bracky has as a kind of progress and theirs I will mean heads- are all my kids care. A great was Heaven dream and I was like oh, this is so fund for him and then, of course, of dark underbelly of that place, which is likely to stage moms and dad's Haynau, pressuring their children's indiscreet city. Ok, so do you remember, as you were additional four felicity Do you have any awareness of the stakes of it or we like? Oh, this is another pilot. It may or may not get picked up where you cognizant effect like what is a gigantic opportunity. This is what I can tell you about that. The actual story of the pilot is sort of sad and true, but I thought it was hilarious and when I finally went for the
screen test and there I think they're. Only four of us. I remember I left and I drove a pickup truck at the time I drove my truck by myself to go, have a deal like a stake dinner. Oh I myself and its before we had cellphone. So I remember thinking it's a big deal to me. If I get it or if I don't get it, it will be yours you at an opportune yeah, because as an opportunity to actually something good that I actually like. So I went and had a big steak and arrived delayed here answers or at Let us make this matter and I got home, and then I heard the call like if you got that are not like on your answer My answer, India, dance in your apartment get excited. I was just ass happy. You think you process things, how you process things, and I think I process things alone and- and I think some people process them fight like talking about like a meeting. keep on going back. I hope I got that out, but that, like that, would make me so
like. I know what I mean to the top. I wanna go in a room and you know I just came from all the press for this Disney I need a minute like when I go to those talk, shows are all that stuff? I don't have anyone come with me and I have heard makeup come with it. Stresses me out. I need to be alone. I need to be quiet so that I can go and output all that shit because it run not my normal yeah. That's the on your natural state right. I totally agree with you and I to go to talk, shows I dont come with anyone
they met in the sacred producers in just the general staff at these shows are always Sarama scared for you. There, like what you gonna do, I think, do they get water, I'm gonna be ok, really think, like you been stood up. He I almost feel like I'm a loser like an informant movies by myself, because we like around waiting, I myself by them alone. They went the other way of nice, but I too loved. I like this. I need thirty minutes to think about what's coming next year, but I think in general, even if there is a good thing for stressful thing, I need a sort of take it down like process it on my filter. It first and then I can kind of giving than has anything to do. us being middle children. Owe you a little thing? I'm a mental child, and so much of my life was kind of private, because there was a teenager who was insane and then there was a baby who needed.
of attention. I wanted my mom, you know I'm not making any problems for you. That was my breaks. Mags ever met, I like you, but I think more than that, what you're describing the I do think there's a truth to to learn one winter virgin extra rights do because I think there are moments where could be really loud and really crazy, but I think it is the way you like two like recharge yeah, I mean I'm at a dinner party. The eye in fucking, loving, I still have to take as after the bathroom and have a minute. Indigo I need a minute and then come back out or, if, like I have to be the premier or there is a crowd, unlike shake it out, a cabinet go hide in the stall. How can I be in here? Ok nominal, come back out when I have to take it down for a minute and then head back up just like doing pressing and being a veto on talk, shows and all those things if you're not funny in you know super confident, like
I went to a hypnotist for like sweating sums like so nervous. After felicity I became like paralyzed, you know nervous and while doing press or just shooting in general press, mostly narcotic, then it got into like being even round p, my girlfriend Mandy Allay, would call and tobacco in doing that. We had this things, go holler. I d go and I pick up the phone and hello and she got it. me calling. Why do you sell scare me I'm not I'm not a medicine scared, I'm just yeah I was having a would have like people are like, and I can't imagine when people feel now with like social media, and I hadn't that will then also again I dont think I was ever- is famous as you are on felicity and neither was or even one billion ass famous is like when Robert Donnie Junior goes home all or some people literally have to stop
in the store, their running or whatever, to go, get involved, but there's something specific about felicity and it was better than they were here. and they were huge to a young audience that is full of it. So Robert any Junior yes, but he has a different thing going on this you're, the guy on the West Wing, who probably they had many more viewers than you handle ton. We are getting, the same attention, probably because the fan base line when I was young people would slam breaks and threatened to kill me because that was the type a fan that crimes and, of course I know I had like city or nice, people cannot comes going My birthday, when I heard they want to want to be like this, but it's a lot. Energy is toward you and at the time of so young in such an intermittent, didn't quite had the language for that at the time. So you
need to tap out earlier than other people need to ensure. Now I know it when my best girlfriends in New York, who was also Mickey Mouse, clam now like a big time lawyer and does none of the stuff when the first big talk shows. I went on true story: rosy, o Donnell vat when she had a show back in a million years ago. And I went on, and I got that overwhelming thing that, like shabby I got so over found I walked up. I could feel it as a stage measures going, and it was like slumbers another hard to be. I can't my own voice and walking up and by the way she couldn't be nice right she's, so warm she's. So nice, I went out she's ask me, questions tears, coming now smiling at an acting like it's fine, wiping the we're going
Colorado and am grow. I grew up there and she's one guy he's gonna be here, and I just like to say- and I was so ashamed of myself- that I couldn't do it I'm like I locked myself in the bathroom, though tell just like I was I just fucked it up. I was so bad at it and my girlfriend at the time allotted was like no up. I just saw it was like a big famous person at the time I kin Basinger on debt and she was so nervous. You know what liked her, for I sometimes think that must be so nerve, racking being la mon bucking loved her for those tat. Yeah like nerve. Racking. Ok, now go back to felicity. Felicity, ok gee, that's a J, J, J J tonight, ok great in so you guys now work together three times as to write gazetted mission possible three and now STAR world means possible
awesome. I was an awesome. Deaf people still like that's great death subjective was I never watched the show, but I was took to monitor point keenly aware of it. Like I knew you were, I knew you were felicity. I knew exactly what you look like I'd seen. A bunch magazine covers, I saw billboards and on the W B, is like a small share of anyways here, but a lot shows in that era. I knew like. I know it was many says you guys it's true and if they were young shows like I knew that small village new those gradual, but I don't watch I didn't wasn't, but I know what it is all the actors- and I knew they were now if you weren't. So if so now, what I have very thin understand. but I know, is a huge to do- is that you cut your hair season ideal? Can everyone freaked how people lost their shit shit now to me just I find that because I was on the inside of it. It seems preposterous in hilarious. To me, Larry learning. So, between season, one into coming back and season to you had a new hairdo avenue hairdo who chose,
have a new hairdo, so J J map- The shell okay, now there it wasn't like you were like I'm changing this at so this is the beginning of where I understood how things play in the press reva, so how things are taken out of context yam. So when I did that show we're wrapping up the show and Heron Makeup trailer and season, one was putting all everything in boxes other stuff in the whigs, and there was a wig. There was like a little boys were upset, and I put it on his joke. Exude shoe to five in the morning on a Friday night, and I put it on and they took picture of me- is there, like all it's ok,
and they said you know, would be really funny send this to J J Matt over the break, as I had such big curly hair and they send it to them, and just say this is acute democratic. It's a mechanic adapt and I sent a letter. I sent you guys out adjusted than they thought of his silk If I cut my hair, it's Polaroid, I'm up in the scope of my love, my skulker, I grow. going to miss cocoa or you do I wanna my girlfriend yeah. So I was up who spoke a swimming with her in the lake and some like there's a phone call from you. You have to take it J J M at there's no laughing about how funny the joke as their like the seriously. Would you owe us, like guys, more than that of funding that like no seriously, we saw that picture and we thought that, as with every college girl, does they break up with her boyfriend
They cut their hair, rather less radical and, I said sure, ok. cut it out you, Michael Body, Joe ok, we films, Harry Meaning, hats and yet people oppressed the ink. So what happened was there was an executive at one of those up front things as a joke. In his speech each said. Will never let someone cut their hair again, so then it became my problem with this is a joke. If that whole then how ya me if I was a part of something and all of a sudden basically. What I would have interpreted from that is. I was hanging on by such a thread in others. Here, hair was the only thing attractive, but me, and now that's gone now. People hate me It would have confirmed my own story about myself that I'm not enough. Don't you, interesting. I mean iron. Who knows, I already had my insecurities were probably at such massive levels at that time, but there
grown people. I like had a mom at a mall, come up to me during that time ago. You were so pretty before you cut your I like you, but there is also being a kid in that storm. I was already like writing that weird wave and think I was already like rebelling in my own mind and pushing it all away. So, in a way of like a cue, fucking care- I cut my hair, but but eternity thing that saved me is on that show. I was never the pretty girl on that show. The pretty girls were, the guest characters were the geese, glamorous pretty long, haired girls- and I was
nerd on that show. That was my car. I was the nerve I want our own make up of our big baggy sweaters. So there was such freedom and power. In that I got to be funny. I got to be sad. I got to be stupid right. The girls had to come on. I remember this one particular girl. I want but I remember our coming on and thinking only she is so pretty and rubbing jealous a member thinking, he's gonna, think she's really pretty, and but let us remember watching going she's so uncomfortable because she has to be pretty and to be pretty at all. I just have to be what am I a mere yeah, so it was kind of good news, but very ironic because- and I don't think that's my home no proclivity, but you are certainly that one of the few people on tv period, so I can't even imagine I imagine that there were people that were cast against you that were more AL again or glamorous.
but I dont know Nolan girls like when I go on and in those in that area like auditioning in doing all that stuff, I would to be told over and over, especially if it was like a superhero moving there like don't forget a very high has a pat abruptness, a really pay bombing. Oh, I got I got the first Morgan lifetimes. Nobody's gonna, get a pattern bra, lingering another pet, a bribe pointed it yet, but I would like at it. But that's the cool thing about nothing. Twenty anymore! I, like you just kind of listen, I mean every all have our own set, but the least I look at my girlfriends either prettier now than they ever where I think like now. They just look so good. To me sure I don't know, I think you do in the Americans or whether we can. justly or now was a way for you to go or not plan that game the game where my beauty is my asset and at work.
Like the Americans, was like a really maybe now register smart thing, neglect! No, no! I'm gonna be like James Gang Ovine and his enemy of Fuckin powerhouse and that's going to meet a thing you want from me, but that was all such a super. I was in the middle having kids small kids. This is when American CR came your way, and I mean I wanted to do something good, but I didn't. I wasn't ambitious enough to be chasing every little thing. I have more. Some would argue, not great philosophy on it. Have a much more then thing about this idea
I try to force anything. I don't try to force it if it comes my way, like a kind of believe like the flow of it as a harsh terms, it comes but there's one little thing I want to ask: when felicity ended, you moved to New York yeah. What motivated that you don't felicity was so great in so many ways is the first time I really felt like I was an actor. I love the story, left everything about it, but I I just needed a break. I knew I couldn't do it anymore and there were certainly money to be made. There are great opportunities, but I knew that I needed to just check out for a minute and I thought maybe go to school. What do I want to do, and so I took a little bit more than a year off, maybe a year and a half I was the only one of those kids didn't buy a big house or didn't
fancy car when so I just thought I had saved all this money had no time to spend money, how long that show eighteen hours a day Minos, so I moved to New York where a couple of my really close girlfriends lived and got this great apartment in the West Village and just acted like a. I was just going to say where you starting to feel like a wild. I don't take a time out right now, I'm in the machine on the conveyor belt- and this is all going to pass by me- and I never have my own real life quote real time and I just think I'm I just wanted to like the shop for birthday parties and goat like out dancing thank girlfriends and be drunken do basic things and, like real life thing that I was craving, cheers you eyes. Oh fun, like twenty four, which elders and you know I was only out. Oh yes, maybe I was more like twenty six, twenty six in your single single, oh, my god, you're going out dancing, so fine all make an even think it be so crazy inlet.
I know of salacious in sexual, but you know like the real beauty. It was my girlfriends la just being able to be there and here about other dates, and I am keen love that we watch the bachelor. You just come out where it was so fine and it was just like. I got my wife back here and that's when I very first are going and dates and You know it was a year, but that such a fund city I'll find you can like twenty super poor, like I had enough money telling having it was such a great time when you're in the thick of it with three kids. Are you just like me, and I could go for just a weekend in Nepal, like three times a day: Victor yeah, but you're, really a serial monogamous. What you ve got a long term relationship alone. I am without some Islamic fired and large or one leg, take every opportunity to such a good girl. Why do they do that? I tried it for like a half a second when in New York and just those it's not that
have fun. No, you like better. I URI rights, not really funded, do actually like, hang out with strangers. You'd only lie yeah, I kind of a greener yeah, but some people love it that some regional really registers and I believe it I know I, like you, I like now. You know what you know. You know what you know so, no back to you get a script assent to you. I assume we asked the Americans ads on ethics, men. Do you know the producers and adjourn now and you don't know anyone and were you naive to Matthew, as I was We have all. You had met him once, but I had met him ten years before, where in rustic Canyon, at a kick ball party. Of course, that's where you were, railway to meet in a parking lot at. Do you know, raise your husband. Now they have a kick Bob every year at an off is still there. This is
holy cow and I was moving to New York that far so showed up at the end, and then everyone was leaving the sun was setting, and there are these two well skies in the parking lot. And we have been left. We have been left come over, sat in a partner milk Urim, though, when the surplus, in his name or you do go like. Oh, I met him, he's, right, hang no memory. If no memory avail make sense, you had in my previous breakthrough were far down the lying like we were already in like complex training with each like combat training like sweating boxing. These things in remember him ass, like eating sushi lunch or something We were never sweating and is like you know, we ve met, and I said no, we haven't music yeah, we have missed like we went to a kick ball party and I opened out o my god and hate him for life
actually was, as you left me, a drunk message, I'm I'm so excited sapphires evidence of Myers years ago, when I told him that stories like you Is the long game? Lion alike. Swoboda said the same year as even ten years. What's yours we be Elsie and TAN will knock out exceeds the an amazing show together a kid ok, so you read the Americans and you love the pilot. Obviously I assume I liked I didn't know what was in it go. Ok, so this is my statement, the show I heard many, many people, the watch it, and this is why I say people unlike watch Americans, just give through the first floor. five episodes inside the weapon, but no no I'll tell you the exact moment Today's off, ok, I say you'll watch it in the first four five you'll be like it's a good show. It's a well made
good, shallots well, acted and then summons and a phone booth, and then they get taken by either from behind and pulled out of the final Kenny, you, oh, oh and may, and that mother Fucking show takes off from that moment. That show does not let up for, like thirty, some apples when we're like in and they are there kidnap, yes, citing like the yes- and I was from that moment just from that fuckin from behind either to the face. I was I do what it and then the stakes that you guys maintained. I don't know how they did it there were so got. The writers are so great. It's such a great Yoda, binge too, because you, just what more observers so good Matthew. I dont know I've ever had such a like an experienced just giving so won over by somebody in such a short period of time. I feel like that
him isn't eyed him around like that he's a good user, but our doubts Myers says he plays long game. Any doubt he does. He does there's a sex, MR him. There's a saw wrestling crazy, sexiness, always so goddamn Piazzi out now he does. He just didn't see. Just has that he has. The council can interact harmful, hates, that's the gravity. He is like he's like down Any luck has this thing will be anywhere. I remember being it with some fancy like met ball are those like yours, you stupid things and Herbert Diane VON Furstemburg comes up to us and she is like crazy like doing what I really does talking hung in she's. Like you, I watched you people just like zero in on him and, unlike you know, that's currents. judges wavelengths of that yeah. Oh, I like it a lot.
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The reality is no c. I bring you know them now, they're, not they were being the same person just in a different place ever Mason reality. I do think Matthew is, good as a chameleon. We could see. Spend all of that to let loose. And flies or use a little to go because he is an actor. You know I feel like their technicians as actors and then what I do kind of. Isn't that, like a hat, I can state by doing this other thing that I can do every once in a while, but I don't wake up every day and think and acted. We gotta get out there and nominal dishonestly ratings. I'm gonna, like rule trial, these my german accent this. We don't even know who I am like. I love stories. I like truth, you know, and I can swing it occasionally, but Matthew is that he is. my law. It is what he does he's good at it,
chameleon, he liked comes alive alive of it, so he on that shows idea. But yes, that was what was last night. He said to me: he was reminding me about some serious Riyadh and it was exceeding one and a half some crazy cost them in. That shows, listen you're about to say, but I could show you have written on paper. Maybe lies not yet another writing era here, right here, You know it's a unique situation for Christian. I too want to show as actors because we're thinking about our sucked into the show, but there were also really aware of how the sausages course source literally one of the things I wrote down were his about this, and I think it's basically exactly what you're just going to say that Matthew reminded you of use times had your most heartfelt, an important scenes in crazy, wigs with Philip and Matthew in huge glued on moustaches. In wigs there,
one scene in particular, yes Agus whole season is, is- is leading up to this confrontation that you too will have a care over the that the particulars of this but it was the most important scene of the season and you guys are both in deep, deep disguise in this- shall presentable like how that Take you out of it like you're, talking over the big raising mustache on almost endless curly little wig. That's what he looks like serve to answer a number one in the first season, which, moreover, are getting is too, and I was also so in love like I was so that's all the other thing I want to say about Ino. My life was taking a turn. regardless had been many years in the coming, and I was experiencing this huge life, changing kind of like feeling alive again at all.
So glad it was him. There was there right because it could. You know it's truly, it's always you in life right, so it was me going through it, but I'm I'm so glad he was the one to be there because of such a good person. Why? But so too, answer question whether disguises number one and the beginning there Make us laugh uncontrollably here. I have one of those guys in the first isn't, particularly what you're supposed to behave like a really serious scene, and he calls it might on Denver outfit. There was like this, like blog and music. You are that it so hard for that, and so we would laugh uncontrolled. We pinching myself. Ninety lignite, and then there are other times which we just Having about last night, we were having a really serious conversation. He was telling me something partly carrion Matthew, we're having a governing write, something like hard core about his life that you don't remember that conversation. We haven't you.
rest in this crazy outfit is like Elvira with us like who I read skirt, I was lit, looked up, we resume when I was like. Why are you There were so many, but is also so fine and so sexy I mean, like you, know, someone yeah it. Is it weird to be falling in love with someone in working so closely with them? Every day I mean it's fine, I can assume, but what about like? Yes scenes where he's with other people, and is it hard to separate at that time when you're falling in love will now have because, when you're, following what everything's fine gravy sort of like that she's the best thing ever It's like the S feeling of all time, but you know a working relationship. Yes is very hard right, like hey wanting a meal array girls get a blow job in a car dry, exactly yeah. I can turn ever later.
Man's yeah yeah. Imagine it's easier when its new, because all the emotions are so heightened in the feeling so high in nearly all of this person, feels half of what I feel about them, I'm not to threaten by the hautala girl. Never see it's just later. you know they disappeared. Narrow life takes over and somehow got a pickup zones at some. Like lady, I got these six months at home You can't pick up. You can pick them up from Brisco. What are you doing? Oh you're a three way you're in a three way coke, I call for her now Monica and I have discussed many times what the show was about the Americans yeah Monica was the one who said you know what this whole show is about. Loyalty, there's all these layers of loyalty, like really makes you examine the layers of loyalty, our whole oil to a partner. Are you loyal to your children? Are a loyal to country and of course it was always so forestry,
in for me. I want you guys to be in love. I wanted you did the fact. I wanted you to the american lives, I wanted you to put your children above that and I wanted you to recognize. The soviet experiment was not working and I don't know why you're funny, but but undoubtedly that is the the ranking for many people. It's like God, country, family or maybe it's country, God family or whatever their order is for me, is like family in fact everyone else. So is it at all challenging for you too, because I can't imagine your love for the USA trumps, your love for your real life, three children, but that's not our country. You know I mean it is such a difference, personality
It's an intense cause. It's such holes, offering such such suffer muttering. That period right, if you can think of I mean I know, is railways are different for a different reason, but there is a time to country that we do not have as true at this point. We really do we don't we haven't had to have it right and I feel like it, something which is very difficult for Americans to understand you right. I have to have it will? But it's not in our culture you'll believe these a kind of high historic moments that they define the cultural character around like the there is each of London Grand in defeating many Germans. Even that you know, you think what are the numbers that the Americans had something like a couple hundred now: was in the died right and may losses million. During the earlier one world war. Two yes, but you taught in America,
either we didn't we one year we freed Europe, didn't we back the US millions yeah just through yeah attrition in determination, and they didn't have the right that they did. They were outgunned in many lies our technology and they just had will, but so that was an interesting dynamic to play with any obviously is unique to understand, but you have to kind of solution. Would mental gymnastics did you do because we all love the characters we play tv even on shows were like my heart's, not all the way in my heart is in the character and plain in a climate of fighting these battles that ultimately often there right, the show runners like the union conflict in my probably objectives, always to make myself look good or or my character to do good, and that is not great for story but protect above your character. So I wonder you, you know ultimately
you kind of became the friction piece of standing in the way of maybe Matthews character. Just being an American happy am, I right yeah so did you ever, but it was so fun to be as the girl and especially to be me, coming from felicity and I feel like I was a nice pregnant mom for about twenty years of my career, a her like who can we can who's gonna nice, a caravan, let's get her she's, so brightness you saw my guess- is some nice Let's find it a lot of that, so you really enjoying getting to Plague Cosette was then I struggled with at the beginning. I thought, oh god she saw unlike about, but then I realized it's not about being unlikely. She really believes that this is. She believes us and for her daughter to come home at least sixteen and say he's gonna be a Christian is so
dickie less like the sooner? It means nothing and thing nonsense. Yeah, and how did I raise this person if so fun and it was so funding to be Massey was sort of the machine One yeah I was gonna, say it was a little bit of a gender flips excel fun. Yeah I feel, like Elizabeth, was just more black and white about everything. There was no great like this is what's right, and this is what wrong my biggest conceit for me was the Philip character kept saying, which is to protect our family we need to be here, and my argument was always Elizabeth is the better spy because its black and white you're gonna get our family into trouble, you're so wish. She was she in have your hands in so many different things in taking care of people and all these things in your putting our family danger by doing that, where, as Elizabeth was very clear and therefore like the better soldier, was the better protect you clarity on all of it. It was so physical. There was so much ass, kicking you're, so believable as someone who could kick ass.
You're most from parts of the dancer. So let's were yes yet look! Really incredibly plausible! like. So often I see these fight scenes Amazon, Anna Biomass for half a second. This is like they just danced a little bit is now that's very idle down in their eyes were good, but you're you're stuck with a gruesome in it was you all. My guy was a wonderful, some great lovemaking scene In that way. We had a conversation in their day on this show about how many directors weirdly are like super confident with shooting violence and stuff, but their real unkindled lovemaking, but the loving stuff in the Americans was top now I was really beautiful, like it wasn't ever corny or James was perfect level of super sexy recurred, I'm glad so loyalty. I would just like to ask whether it is loyalty I mean I but to me it was just to show about marriage and I feel it despised. If we just metaphor
just like it allowed every state to be raised? You know about trust, loyalty. Cheating I mean everything at its crux to me was always a show about marriage one of those storylines, therefore, most intriguing who's. The actresses now on yeah she's on us Now: Julia Garner, Julia gardener. That whole storyline, Murray Matthew. I found to be so intriguing Kristen I really draws up well I'll, tell you cause. I had this whole feeling about it. The really spend time to understand what it was about? It would become people, let it ok, so so Philip Matthews Character has to hang out with his younger I think on the show, she's angry, thrifty, energetically, anything I mean yes, and he is animal on the show. What he's supposed to be thirty, eight or something at thirty five in so, immediately. You like will this is highly inappropriate, so much a start there, but then
seemed you'd I'll get so sucked into them, and I would have this I desire for them to be in these seeds together, announcing a Christian, unlike what is good, on right now. I'm like obviously, don't want any thirty eight year old man to pick up the sixteen or growth get these means are doing something to me anyway, after lots of thinking about it. What I realized was the appeal of it was he was timed Ravelling there's nothing wrong. She going down with him, but he was enjoying it because he was go. Is life was so so much responsibility and he'd go under her house smoke weed and get the monkeys. They say they laughing giggle and IE, and all that- and that was the thing that was like. I think we. Our desire to time travel to fields, sixteen again and smoke weed and just boats philosophy. once ability to Lhasa, responding early and also like recapturing this notion of like the skies, the limb, at the you of your whole life ahead, like everything's cool. Exciting and interesting, and so that's was the thing
that I was like envious of him, not that I want to hook up with sixty neural, but that I want to have a sixteen year old transport me back to being sixty. Do you think it's because older men constantly like taking a second wife, whose twenty thirty years younger do you think? That's what it is? You know I do think a lot of those guys. Yes, they'll say she makes me feel young again night. And so you on the surface, it's like all justice purview thing in its our society, for whatever reason the permit that encourage young doesn't brown upon it whatever. But I don't know that yeah as simple as just owe their attracted to young people's much as there are attracted to feeling young again ever that that mom in time, yes, and that you can kind of absorb there experience or right piggy back on the way there looking at life? He, and I also think that would get really annoying very quickly to me right, like just the there's so much work when you're there
We are constantly evaluating where you're out in the world and our I should be here and I'm not here, and I should be there, but that stuff. I couldn't a man and suffering through with a younger partner right. That would do me bonkers yeah, but there would be aspects of it. I think that would feel time travelling, but I understand in fact I feel like they used that amazing Van, listen song, sweet thing and, as such a feeling saw nostalgic feeling of and have him coming home. You know- and I think that is with their capturing, but they they were also pushing. The envelope like. Are they gonna, fuck yeah yeah? It's interesting a bog down on me determination, but I do wonder that storyline would have been pitched two years later. Now I don't think it would have been, and I think it's wasting time It's a really powerful story line, and I liked it. I don't know what else to say like it found it very. I was very nice,
this the whole time. There was just so many things about it that were high stakes, but I think well like having a thought explosion but I remember one time with my ex husband, the carpenter. I remember seeing the shame we were talking about like who he would have sex there's something the Hull house working hours, issues of our he said. Oh, do like that. Guy, like that guy, like a moment of like anyone on your crew, is gonna, be Joe, we the plumbers! Eighteen year old son. I really like a little like someone like that on one of our gang and to be any these life- and I remember shame laughing so hard about that. But what I was saying was it was that kid? It was just like that high like like it's that feeling an endless opportunity. So I do understand you That's really really said. Ok, star wars! star wars, the rise of Skywalker. Before this you did burn the sum Broadway with driver yeah. Now I m
Musicals are harder in that the output like that, oh on your bodies, probably harder, but that aside the schedule I could, I don't think I could ever do it is beat down of a schedules down. It's rough ride, my eye feeling I weighed like eighty pounds now we're and also you know at bottom line when you little kid you gotta pull down and night yeah yeah, that's when they talk and they see things especially now. I have a twelve year old, a seven year old and three oral, but the twelve year old. That's when you hear anything is everything else that they come home. You like, I was gonna, gave a seer don't invite colony Remy over tonight now give real market
so you have to put them down, and you know that was hard. I really that was hard. Yeah you and not to mention it was such an emotional dark play anyway. I mean I start the play crying I end it creates. Is that your sobbing, your yet you're being yell debt and Sunday morning I was like this again in similar working yell at me today, Jesus Christ, what that is for one thing to that, Americans as well, will be able to shrug that stuff off. You know like, I guess, the Americans, you know when your filming it's so compartmentalizing. Walk off and haven't half like your check out. There would ever check out for a minute- and you have to do that- hard thing for a really concentrated amount of time. Ass, a finite amount of time listening at replay, just like reliving it and we live here. Let me I want to live
Maybe maybe that's why I'm not like a true to act, because there was a certain points like just felt like a beat, it enables the nature of that play anyway. My character sort the punching bag on that being yelled at constantly eyes a thing I do think there's something energetically to it. You know you can't. Yelled at that IRAN is at a certain point. I was like, where the prerogative slackened buy back now, d, J, J, direct historical. Yes, we did it was all over the world or was it in England? Where was we were in London Pinewood where they shut the original all? Were you a star wars person, the originals totally you were Imagine you ve ever worked on anything that had that scale did it. I mean mission impossible, lively, huge, but star wars, that's like it just the big ahead or, as ever, to be the biggest circus ever end
the amount of our industry and creativity and money that goes into every little thing. It's kind of the way they used to make movies. You know, like John Houston, Revere one of those movies where'd you go and you just you. Gonna live somewhere for a year and you're gonna die then, and you know, even when I was fifteen and doing big Disney movies like honey, a shrink, the kids, it was sort of the same you'd have to go into a costume fitting. It was up on a lot now, it's all sort of cobbled together in a great way to our independent Feldman. They don't make movies like that anymore and star wars is so that I would be flown into do. for five fittings and they would die the fabrics and then go now should be this, and we should have this metal too and will create this. It was so you know it's a real creative things, Instead, we can, you were kind of time, travelling you're having an experience. It just doesn't really exist any bazaars, as I had the best of all worlds, because I wasn't
all the time. So what I did is I would fly in. Matthew was doing a project in Northern Ireland. We had all the kids, like this great house, someone who was gravel all around and then I would fly and on my own, for, like two knights have like You got a great hotel room, grow to fancy dinners so nice and then go by to the great and airline back to the greens, rerolling yelling everyone's screaming at each other, and then I would do two weeks the somewhere and then I went back just before Christmas and in my other two weeks. So is all one reply. and you ve seen it. I haven't. I have the opportunity to see it tomorrow night, but I'd like to unwanted seriously for peace, don't you want to see star wars with it? For me, I don't want to stay with an audio. Yes, yes, yes is exciting, it is fun. You know, because it's the first thing that my twelve year old legitimately
this call em both by the way has not even that core. We now he's like that's cool, Will we have the only looks at you, kids like a careless, yet Christians and frozen, so That is the nature of the very nature of the beast: how dangerous now foreign six months in turn in five in a couple weeks of four five and six, what what's the birthday December Nineteenth the December twenty seven. Oh you do. She doesn't quite yet understand about a ship that as he likes you actually just said to me. Where are you going where they so I'd like to do this book. no one's gonna, no one is in town, especially in New York. City states will see what we can work out so minds January second, which is terrible member, but at least deltas before please my words they have just after Christmas. You just got what leave our harmony that now that we're not we have fatigue since it Jamie. Second people just made their new year's resolution
they don't want to drink, they want to eat it when it like they're supposed to be at the fucking workout before hour, fitness instead of a birthday party. That's right! Okay. I will ask question This is a question from my wife. Oh ok, when I said I was coming to talk to you today, she wants to know if you ve gotten thin shamed over your career thin shamed. Yet if you ve got queues of having eating disorders and stuff over your career. There was a time when I remember someone saying I she looks really skinny, but you know what I am a thin part like yeah yeah, and you know what get stressed out. I get skinny like another idea like when I was going through my divorce. I got really skinny. Ah so, but you see like people can't win in any way. As I said, nothing that you really are like. Oh just stop evaluating my weight. Nothing like where you felt like is not troublesome to not troublesome. I mean I'm not visible enough in a great way back to what we started. This conversation when I
ever had social anxiety, almond extrovert, I loved Goin authorities parties. I love I talking to people in in holding court in a certainly over the last seventeen years or whatever I've developed social anxiety. I too will go to a bathroom induce bucking sit in there for like forty five minutes, let's say twenty five people at some big party, I d start getting really uncomfortable couple different times: I've been with Chris and I've started in the bathroom and I'm in there for forty five minutes, and then I just leave out the back door. I text her. I've walked back to the hotel, like you can take the car. I've walked back. I've done that a half dozen times, so I started isn't extrovert so interesting dear. I think, even if you aren't extroverted can be uncomfortable, so I can imagine your favorite thing is yet to be recognize. Maybe I have to say I'm pretty lucky like people are generally pretty nice to me, yeah yeah, you know for the most
Will you certainly delivered into my expectations, because we had that great interaction at the night before party we really am AIDS. I really got interact, sighing, legged and drive on going. She is so she talked way to my yo. I adore you like a man and Christian. I both were like, will she's a goddamn lovely using. I didn't we follow with Americans. After that's all just icing on the cake, and we wish you luck with this movie. I doubt it'll do very well in star wars, the rise of Skywalker December twentieth. Thanks for having bring the kin down the I adore you and down in everything, was true. She was really with time funny.
Now my favorite part of the show the fact check with my soul maiden mama got bad men welcome to carry fact check. She sent me a tax before she came and it is very spunky. There was its at Patman its Russell Ere. I loved me, do I think you guys should be brows. I mean I know that there is a geographical issue, impediment yeah challenge cause she's on the east coast of this great country, nor on the West Coast. I am the best cursed yeah. Well, the best ghost afresh Lake Michigan. Now as those least cost led, don't you dare I say, and as from theirs I can say it. Would you consider the limit, cost
Oh, my god, I'm in this fight with so many water. You know we're gonna fight, we might see I'd. I live just gotten in this fight. Any people where they would say the south, whereas in its still on the east coast it could be the south and the EAST Co Workers Savannah, goes right up to the water. All kinds of the Georgia goes up to New York yeah. I did go, spend a lot of time on the Georgia goes grown up all my mom's from Savannah my grandparents or their. I spent all my summers there. okay was that on a river or on the ocean. Now I bet I've stood on a bridge. I've stood on a Jeanne Savannah watch the logs come down. They float those logs down that river new, really sight to see the things clogged up of logs, whereas going as planned, like a big toilet. Eyewear shots approves the aliens might think that I bet they do from that. High up. It looks like a tiny toilet with lots of cfcs.
Wade's the EAST coast of America, our guy and also the south, run all so. The South South EAST, just like New York, is the EAST coast and the nor right so guys rely. Somebody shown we're on our field trip were on another field trip Rudy ratings The army Giuliani Workspace Camp here. Why he works, a lotta job small is a hard things are working out for him as a lawyer, but I I appreciate that he's like you know, that's not gonna start me, I'm gonna get a job onset. I'm still a tv show earn a living, and I'm gonna have one of the light curve. Overwork worked under pay on pre on your memory. Shaded jobs at american low status, LOS Tat I dont get higher, does appear on a movie currently where Polina primary right,
interesting that you could have been the mayor of me, or maybe the ones that film in the EAST Coast Georgia. You think they will not only be a recent won't take great pleasure not permitting involved entry level job, but they hears fans gap. Boys very famous. We both know who we're talking about very Giuliani, mere Giuliani waves really worth tat. We re talking about, I complained of images. We both know that your dark eyes may are going on in the area. One knows what you find. Watch Bobby movie. I is in now you fired and blame it on. Robbie will know when I thought I'd take responsibility for it. I have a history of it. I've taken responsibility, as I did it publicly on air
You mean one afforded farted in front of sure, but there seems, like you probably couldn't have blamed on anyone. Linger was very clearly you she felt there. Air well, but I immediately said it was me and from everyone like, I think I are of I took her hit that, but I earned the respect that I only That's fair. I can't be your full loss across the board. I have showed some integrity had actually lack of integrity by farming in public, but then integrity by claiming responsibility than then you say if it wouldn't have been Are you in a splendid on me if it just smile, but I was teasing, I wouldn't do that. I would have blamed her lovely. pardon and smiles assessment will use mouse. Thank you step in something that will you at Adele Monica if you find it in its use- and I think I stepped in dog who now I would have just been silent We have addressed the devil when you said. Oh I'm sorry I did that. Do you think
carries around novelty, store, poop and then just that just throw it on the ground and then put their foot over and go. I just stepped in mass, if someone's like got a real problem with toots. play. I think it's a good points and pretty good plan. Should we tell the listeners the update of the house, I gotta it's come. Plea. Oh, yes, Monica got her, how now Wabi an moniker homeowner as very exciting. It was such a long time and you went to a court and actually did I live beer. We had the option for it in the court house. It was extremely,
exhilarating rules, scary, traumatic, olive oil. Why? While he deals, do yeah and you were with your mother- I e a Christian came with me. She was a bit of a secret whack ban. I have a little bit of rum Morse you do yeah for bringing her oh, you do well, it was not fair. Whirl, it's not fair to their love in war. Without May. Well, have that they say war, I would go to WAR Ford. I was technically at war. Were technically J, hallway a war when we arrived there they said room two or three for the war. the war is now ready and the judge at the gavel ones had let the war comments.
but how I got a message in its very low percentage of people on planet earth who have stood in the courtroom and bid on something I know you're the first person I've ever met. That was in that situation. Me too. It was exciting. It felt like new ground, so we had to go down the line and Sarah last name yes or no to each bid as it was increasing. It wasn't like we're. Gonna wrangling and their men become an on going anyway. Wasn't bad. I wish, but it was more of civil war. well where we were actually the civil or civil younger, acting civil. As soon as we started, my competitive gear kick dad. It did yeah and like, I wonder why I would have lost, because I don't have the that is heart of a winner. Like you yet and into real competition- and they didn't know I was super experienced in competing Do you think your heart rate was that during this did it get the inspired fatal,
hundred no it was it was wearing. Does elevated yeah, ok, we're any perspiration building people could tell. I was very cool under fire, can send your rains, but you said the other folks were showing their car a little, but they were in their emotions on their sleep only once again towards the end, you knew fair competitor, my arrival Ben towards the end. You can hear it in his voice. He was starting to West gin and crumble and crumble. Inside out. Ok, yeah, and I knew it us up. and did you just feel glee that you'd defeated european energy? You feel bad for him in the moment or night till in the moment I felt I only fell bigger. I didn't even feel happy about the Just the victor dislike, ok I I want I one. Oh I want. I warn you,
No. I was just like. Oh my gosh wow, ok, that's over. I wine and Then everyone's, like congratulations. Graduations, that's a great house knows. I owe you right you just who saw red? Oh yeah, my house, I want it and just wondering what have you sold to the guy immediately after a loss better, and I just want to win I right away but then later that night you started thinking about his feelings and be, I know, they're alive. I do. I can say that they they last summer they want it and they put in this amount of time I put into this, which is a lot so I felt bombed out for them, but also they're gonna find their house. Then there is, that's meant to be that they love, but their family doesn't live next door that I know of
right mind as such right and we are gonna, be all your mosque. If your listening, I'm sure you are he after your huge round, the show we want you to bring your boring equipment over, and we would like to draw a tunnel from our house demonic as a child, a charm that between the channel Edwin, wheezes, boring equipment, he's not doing it judgment on your equipment. Like, oh, that's, poor ya. Now it say the actual mechanism borne out a born into the ground. We need that. I would love a tunnel. But you know what I'd be scared of Acta. You were oh yeah, I know the only entry points were our houses. I'd be scared of collapsing ah ok? Well, what? If it was reinforced with some concrete? rebar. I guess I ve long musk is doing all feel pretty confident better.
Not only are experience and channel building, he does yeah a boring companies done quite a bit boring. I well that's boards in a very exciting company. Ok! Well, that was a big update for everyone. Agent are blocked all the pain and strive, let me hear you you're here: ok, carry! I love that she has spent so much time in Michigan, ah in his reverie for the area surely likes her. Yet amazed me like her more ok, you, like my home state. Well, that's very selfish area sage. Your mom met carry all year, they carry remembered, it is see, and it's so funny your mom has spoken how many words about you to all of these random raised. Will your worst nightmare? You know
when you're a young actor in year moms out saying you know my son is pretty much your worth. but I'm a matter vantage point life that has very cute, and I problems most certainly would do it if Lincoln was in show business this allows meeting your show business, be I showed you my daughter, yeah, that's as very clear. Okay, so don't you you touch on the dance savage steady about controlling first slut chain, advanced hd, so I'm in a red what dance at exactly There's a study where they sent attractive young women on a college campus and offered anonymous sex and ninety eight percent of the guys said yes, and they were verse that end all the women said no, and then they read of a city in Germany and controlled for violent slut, shaming rape, and they did it with computers and showed pictures
and sad. You know these people are at the end of the hall. No one will ever know you won't be harmed no violence and women were ass likely as man. Yes, that's what dance. I believe there is a big difference, but I do still find it to believe it was equal. Why am I still hanging onto that? Bit of you just refuse to hear in part No, I mean do you have that at all give any residual like it's one to learn something new, but alike, Damn it get on a cellular level. Worthier like I knew it I still go like. I would expect the number to double or call dribble or whatever, when you control for those elements, but I wouldn't have predicted, are expected to be on par with guys chow, I get there. You guys are fucking vacuum cleaners and they're fucking like holes in the dirt. You notice is my experience of boys. Growing up is, like you know.
These are call riper, hyper hyper. These are college kids, so they're, not in other, probably not at the lake sticking there. innocent the dirt away. I think they ve gotten over that her eyes, but I see what you mean, you know. I tell you when I was very young eyes, but my penis and toilet paper, raw holder share because it was circular as I all that might feel good. However, you eleven and it was the circles. Gonna see my! I should put my penis America's that's as cylinder. I know how did you even know about you already knew about so you already had sex by their new nor on auto alma. Well, I don't way later, this like the very yard, while the owners yeah you're over it only a year or two after you first started getting boner said so rare the owls, oh yeah, right,
well yeah, I dont well it's hard to remember exactly what I'm sure I got boulders all the time, I'm sure got like donors. I got boner writing that mobile. I told you about us and I certainly governance, but but the very first sexual. feeling scare were. I want to save the end, a fifth grade, beginning of six great, whereas, like her, I think I told you- I had a dream that I had sex with a rock on the way to school. Why did not. Just like I had I used to walk by this huge rock in my neighborhood acts for dacres, as on the corner I had no sexual feelings towards this rock at all, but I had a dream where I had a bone and I was humping, the rock and in the dream it was as pleasurable, and I assumed I was probably humping, my mattress in my sleep and then went and then I woke up, and I had all these confused feeling like. I had a desire to grind up against that rock and then I walk
school that day- and I looked at that rock, but I didn't have any attraction to the rock once a song Harrison, but all that happened when de Saint Edna, something like noise. Now me up in our yeah, starting in fifth grade. I believe- and I mean I feel like, Sixth grade euro like doing stuff under the bleachers by the wayside, nor if my mother, at some point on her death bed, said to me your three years older than we told you you are, I would believe I wouldn't be that shocked, because I was suspicious Lee bigger than everyone, and then I had sex at twelve, which may be. I really am fourteen or fifteen. Now I'm just not I'm not saying I, I think, that's what happened, but if she said that it would certain things would make sense for you think you're, forty, seven and forty seven or so yeah,
we already we just about damage on the last back check that you are actually younger. You look young you're like a couple years older than me looks twenty four now true. My true true visitors will. Thank you. It's not a compliment. Okay. This is the lack of a sudden. I'm sorry, I dont think you announce an and and gay what if your parents told you Monica, we have something to tell you your two years younger than we told you. also mildly believable, right yeah. But then I would be like that. Great news arrived at fourteen or cider, and I never gave a guard when I was to be out of here. I would love were just said to you too they go. We have something to tell you you're of under kid we wanted to use before we die each year of underground
then you're way out my whole life. I wouldn't be shocked at all. No one said it would you really just twenty six? Twenty six, I was twenty six thirty thirty kindergarten met you're a minus two minor issue: that's not possible! I guess. Vigorous, bringing a newborn babies. You have to tell you in a basket I just as bad as allow sitting at a desk. Take your first steps and third grade
Now I was a wonder here. That's right, so I would have taken six months old, any who, oh, I guess, GIS sacks. You had so early guy apologize for wide, seizing a viewing. The dessert like I'm supposed to say I'm sorry or I regret it or something, but I don't know ones asking you to say it wasn't. People are rightfully troubled by that well preserved. Certainly you don't you can think of some twelve year olds relay, oh, my goodness. Their babies, yeah, but I was five ten in a hundred and fifty five pounds. I mean it just because you were at ha artisans. I was already in the upper ten percent title of male side. I know, but that doesn't mean your brain was mature. Well being in my case, it was because I too was of under kid, like you were that you are the opposite yeah, so you
a wondered quinoa. Well, we ve got a hand. One It is a wonder kin and I'm saying wondered kid: I wanna reads: wondered, can or wonder kid. I think I'm saying wondered kin Ok! Well, I think it's urgent, and things. I now wonder fonder bar if they think it's spell at the doorway you right, but they pronounced Linda. I just don't do that accents all right. You don't do characters, ok, issues in the Mickey Mouse Club. That's excited at all new Mickey Mouse Club yeah and there had Britney Spears Christina. Yet, let's just in timber Lagos, Ryan, Gosling Guph, the list goes on and on us really were the list stops all now. There's a lot people, but I wish I was on it. You do yeah yeah Yoda European Gray. I would have loved it you to play many miles. Why? Oh
did they do. I don't think they played. I've never seen a single. Is we like love it and we wish we are on it, but I've never seen a single. Ok, Tony LUCA. He was on parenthood season. Two episode, twelve called meet. The new boss is song was called like love me. I'm gonna, listen to it! Yeah! I'm gonna love it. You know that's right most, my music is watching tv and then downloading saw. I know I like this about you. It's a very good thing that most your music computer, shows you like? Well, I like it because there is a memory assumes Ryan Connect, a whole emotional tat blow to a battery. Speaking of that I'll skip ahead because she says the sheep thought they use. The Van Morrison Song, Sweet Bang in the sea
in the Americans, but the young fifteen year old. Ah, I remember a scene with the two of them in music, so strongly Anna was so impact fall, but it wasn't that song and then I looked it up and I don't think that's on is in the shop, but this it's this on a monopoly, some, while Kansas Multimedia Is this a new opera anyone else he rhythmus Daniel they Louis thoroughly as in game, but that's not the original. Who is it Yes, oh yes, yes, yes,
yeah eighties, cds, music. I just get on that cheap keyboard and they would bang out like three cords movies and sound and we loved it lie still I love ass. I love that scene you're sitting together outside on some step. just seem so um kid like. Yeah I'll, have you known, as I keep saying yes and said, o as Germany, you as ideas? by six time limit. Ta has you say that was a yes vote.
a lot of the exact. Why should you knew her already closed shaking their ideas anyway? Some music can really take things to new level. Our case. We will need to know that and pushes seem an emotional direct phobia. Ah yes, so we talk about seeing movies, buyer Sal I like it. I like we had nice at all. Why some of them? I weekend can't saw Paris, great great movement, great movie,
press. What do you give yeah cause? I'm a Mamma gave it and eighty seven, oh my god, I don't wager scorns the movies in the ninety. Ok, that's fine I'll! Give it a ninety two! Ok, I can't give it a hundred. You want me to give it a hundred, and I want you to give some movies a hundred matter, but that doesn't know we have some a higher like I'm, not withholding the towns. Great Movie, heard your prerogative. I will never give any want a hundred godfather sick. See to get out of my family are, his sacra huntings and ninety nine. Only from don't act like it's, not don't find me. I got a gymnast should never get a hundred, a ten perfect happier Oh wow, I mean no, no, I didn't want the Zol base when it's done, you get a hundred on a task
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