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and I ll funds are Rachel going to join us and international Film and television star. Also, I don't you guys. I've heard this Peabody award winning knew we can create the hardware mixed seriously will be joining us later this evening, and I were here because Father states coming up this way. And while only fifty percent of us, our fathers, one hundred percent of us have fathers. And mostly we brought the cigar, so we're gonna be talking about what it's like to be a. There is like the appreciate fathers was like to be a man. I think it'll expand beyond fatherhood, obviously and a general male female issues As you know, in the Middle EAST me to movement and as they tell us, the future is female, and since I have a lot to unpack and maybe a pretty good too,

So here's. How are you guys be quiet and father saw the man has ever gonna tell you. I have no known children, but it's a very big raising lights and there are a lot of girls at Yale. Autonomic tell tales at a school you mean abandoning, whereas there have to remind you that NATO is steadily haven't you get in the building If he does. Anyone he does not where this too were. Actually The point is here, and there is anything just awful its enamelled waste or ok. So when you talk about well, I must talk about bothers. You are one. Indeed, what's that a regulation is not going well thanks, a ring is looming. Before we get into progress. We do have one not only Non Father, but not even perspective. Father also part of the show tonight. That's our friend Ilusha Kraus, don't you

labels, ah yeah how narrow era felicia- oh hi, you guys are like in this really nice a breeze side. Looking cigar lounge, I'm just doing my version of right out of jail rebel vodka they have by and I'll be here just lawyer was instead the union taking subscriber questions for all of you all, and I like idea broadening this too, like manhood, cause the God. This world needs more men. First look equipment. Said I have to make do with us our fathers, the very serious but there very serious nothin like my own father, who would be ashamed of you're watching the quarterly is working for a web, not turning into the shares, but I think that one of the things that actually has always been interesting to me about this particular group is that we have pretty diverse backgrounds, drew you write. A lot

your father in your book, the good Great said, the great good laws and positive in affirming, but not for people, the wearing of good and and, of course, been. We know your father very well, and it has been a lot of work with him over the years. I got your father who we just got to meet this weekend. Anthea, I don't know how do you talk is unlikely writing without using the word? Why why? Why do my landlady? That others should have been a father shaped all in the way that it actually right? That's shrewd not yet you met him this weekend when I took it biggest step. I've ever taken to becoming a man only contribution really desperate, and in my view, Therefore, I think of all of you have said

a great guy on was taxes, and so we we have these diverse backgrounds and I'm sure diverse perspectives on these issues, and yet we ve all kind of come to a very similar place. One of the things. This is my surprise, the ideas that we talk a lot about these issues when we're not talking about politics- and we really because we talk about politics professionally- are hobby- is not also talking about politics. So this is something I think ground for what our conversations are actually like. That's why we're calling the shots? If you guys got the memo we named the show Ethel previously, the show was just called light state of the union coverage at a round table involving four guys and the guards at a really wasn't much of a much more title, and now we ve named. The daily wire backstage well pretty good, enabling oak and drinking your office you, what everyone does the greatest job ever having a smoke, nothing to sit around the people, paying us actually, probably hoping for a shoutout. Now dollar shave, club dollar, shave club. So, if you don't look like knows it

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job we hardly knew he was in show business. I mean one of the reasons I became a writer because I thought the arts, something you could do I thought it was like a job you doctor lawyer writer. If I had known how hard he was working, I probably would have in a little national. Do not much knows you are that this briefly in your dad, it's hard for us to probably relate now that, because of things like indication and because everything sort of national even cable, makes television national, but the idea of a local radio hostess such an intimate, celebrity utopian and, as you say, in New York, biggest tell me your dad, wasn't just in show business. He was a giant. We are. We call them the mirror of forty six, because you would literally walk down certain streets and then people would Lena buildings the wave to everybody. We was me not for for many many years when I would use a credit card or somebody. The first thing somebody would say is all you must be claim an invention. Is he worked with a partner, and so really was a local celebrity. Nobody knew Macedonia York, but the first first job I ever got

was in radio, not the first job. Every up the first, a dull, John I got was in radio, are women and the worst audition of my life looked up and saw a promotional card from my father and blurted out That means that the noise, when you when you're, that wasn't beating like Red headed step trying to oil, deserves why a dime I know what you're dead do so my dead. So, unlike us, You know we sit around spread fake news for living and my dad works with the mentally retarded kind. Like social work, you know, and it was interesting because my parents divorced when I was very little before I really was conscious or anything, but I didn't realize it. Divorce is terrible. I saw my dad every day. He was right near by picking up from school. You know, so I see him every single day and it was a unique experience because only later did I realized looking at statistics. Looking went. Divorce really usually means for people

I didn't realize I didn't have that experience and I got to see him every day. He go very early, be out basically in time to pick me up from school and evidence a totally different with such a totally different career. Build. Your father was a writer, your father's, a broadcaster. You know you fell into that broad genre. And I'm in my father working with these poor community, in doing all the good work- and I did exactly the about a very lively worse for so many people are not just doing what you do and then I paid for it makes no sense to bear some responsibility. I do it's: it's a guy weep about it. Your dad. What is it you did so my dad's an engineer, further railroad and that's the guy drives the train so automotive engineer, and he in a few days ago

that's the belgian member, but it's a tough job. You know, people may not know railroads are on twenty four hour call. So you know my my childhood was sort of this weird, not knowing when you would see your dad, even though he and my mom happily married to this day would you know. Sometimes I get called two in the morning and be gone for maybe three days and sleep in a hotel, then he'd get back at six, the afternoon, he may not go to work again for twenty four hours. We may go to work again. Twelve. Later, and so there is a spare early on when he had less seniority and career and could maybe pickers his runs a little less. He would be a kind of gone from certain important events, as he's, as is as his career sort of took shape. He had a lot more flexibility. I think my little sister, my little brother, probably got a lot more of them in some ways, and I did but that's not a it's not exactly a complaint. What I actually feel like as my mom and dad got pregnant, very young and my dad basically had to make a decision,

I keep being a kid or to be a father, and he took the best job that he could find. Does a guy in a small town. You know without a college education he hired on to this difficult job that isn't hard of manual labour. I mean it's not like it's busted moving Are you going to do it? You think he did was about that? Has this other kind of isolating difficulty of always being tired working night, days and nights in days and being away from your family and- and I feel like from the the guy that I know, is the product in many ways of those hard and isolating years worry and found himself out on the road, and some of it has been very appreciative of it. So well, ok! So since fathers days coming up, what's best. One lesson that your dad's taught you get the boil down. One was another. I thought you were once the lesson that your dad died madam I didn't get along that. Well, we have very different points of view and there's one piece of advice and gave me which I simply can't say on the air it so fat really led by the everyday

I can friendly like and translated into an unspeakable English, which was win when I became a man, a young man in the sixtys when suddenly sex was available. So we went from literally one year I would have said: oh, you never have second to get married to two years later, everybody was available and I've close. It should put this basically the while I think I've translated this. He said basically just remember: every vagina comes with a human being attached to that that is actually the best voice. What he's ever give me about anything turns out to be exactly true here, that's pretty good for amazing. You know. I think that the best advice I got for I couldn't summon up into a line, but I do kind of get it from my father's disposition of conservatism and that's a different thing than like. You know I don't know voting for tramper, low taxes or whatever that disposition conservatism of you know

when I had tough times or my family had tough time. He would just do what he had to do and wasn't pleasant and it was costly and difficult would just do it and wouldn't talk about it and wasn't a bit and just kind of do it. You know an end when they're, social questions. Obviously we live in this kind of crazy social moment where you know I think I now legally have to use the girls room when I go to automatic, but there was this kind of sense of the tradition. This kind of sense of this is normal, that it's a good thing to go to church. It's a good thing to do. That's a good that I you know. I think I see it being law because I look at my friends, I see you look at my friends. Parents and that kind of conservatism is I'll. Even let you vote for a Democrat, if you have that, I think that's a really important I can really relate to that because my dad was is and distance eight there. Dispensation that I do it the disposition. I not dispensation the more religious conservative.

He was a union democrat for most of my childhood because it works for the railroad. You know, but was always very very conservative terms of its values and really even in in a term in terms of its politics, and impasse at along to me, and also just the selfishness selflessness, to be able to always do the thing that he didn't want to do, but that needed doing, which I I feel like is not only lost from the culture but also its even lost from me. Personally. I am not selfless in the way that my father was selfless, and so I should give him credit for that. Very thing is being his greatest dead advice, but he did articulate advice from time to time. Never quite as good as the advice that he tried to live out, but a lot more funny. So as a blockbuster video, which, if you recall, blockbuster video romani women from your, u two people used to go and rent Michael, never go and rip dvd ease or VHF tapes, then they would take them

put them in a machine, and you could watch was that an old time you days when every game, what lies all right: reseller phones, the holy, and we were in a black, Mr Video and Lubbock the kind of big city and near the small town them from and my dad night. Yeah, look to see what we're gonna get or whatever, and this guy comes into back than there were like these that the other thing I had late fees and what that is that they fee for being late or can return you. I dare Scorbutic foe guys up at the front. He wants to read something new in the world sixteen year old girl or whatever run in the counter, can't help it because you can't rent something when you have late fees, if she's not sure, I'm sorry, if the system says he was one thousand three hundred and fifty, I'd be happy to process that payment. If you want to make, is this? Is it Ray Dry arrive. Thirteen fifty I'm here to rid splash

two whenever whether they are? How dare you you know? I talk to your manager, and you know the girl starts to get very upset, is quite young. You, and this is a grown man- is being very aggressive. She starts to Kennedy at flustered in the little tyrian or voices breaking, and he just is relentless. I actually believe she eventually led him just rent. The DVD and my father. I remember this like this. If it turns to me- and he says, son- never be an asshole over there in fifty middle age group have stood me well, it has been suggested that a sober either a couples are one was that when I was in junior high I'd already skip there, I went to junior high. I went to a highly gifted magnets. He had taken IQ test to get into this magnet school and I got in, but I was certainly not pursue the highest iq there. There are people who theirs, There's a girl there who had- I remember one. Eighty iq

and then you even talk at that, not just wasn't as it is only concern is that this is the part that was actually kind of funny. So we know my dad basically said to me at that time that most time you're not ended smartest person in the room, That's an exception here yet by unmoved, unfounded I've investment firms in the road which we really have to work extraordinarily hard and the path that stories the girl doin. Eighty iq now teaches German, like Michigan State or something because in virtually everybody in the class you had a hierarchy. The mine ended up young doing stuff that was probably less lucrative than the stuff tat we do for a living, so that was those pieces vice number one, which is that Europe, natural gifts only take you a certain amount of the way that was that something. My fourth grade teacher also told me she issues issues. She may very dark piece of advice for forth by her. She said Della, potentially

on your tombstone, you, who is really good, bye beyond your old, been stated here. I think it's true dusty, asking that assesses the other one is that here that I said was that damn never start. If I put the unified finish it, which I have a feeling all of us probably heard from our dear yes, that's my dad actually did tell me. One time has been picked on by this kid at the at that we go to high school based, the ball games than from a small town in there's, nothing literally, nothing else to do except what girls, basketball so the whole family. The ball game and iron. I'm know probably like eleven and this high school kid would bully me any time that I was at the German, so my dad Kennicott when the this, and I think he understood the aged dynamic supply because there's someone was pulling me and he said son you stand up for yourself. Now, if you, if you hit the bully back, they go away, you usually don't you have to hit the boy back if they say they're going to punch. You just look him in the eye and say fine,

then punch me get it over. Well, I just wanted to live noticed how to be read this area here I am and on eleven it either. As my dad, he must know so sure enough that Latvia hold me aside, did outcome and the bad guys guys go Germany, I don't know paper, my money or whatever, was that he has to do. Picking on me, and I said no, Gimme, your money or I'll kick your by probably a little bit more harsh language, and I said if you're gonna punch me punch me. It is my father used to teach me from the dirtiest fighting. I was in a lot of fighters. Loudest was used it I find you lost a fish like you, come home and say show you something and then surely something like enemies. In the year we be arrested like nine as I killed him. I'm sorry and I seem to recall you thought you'd say I've

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in journalism. I love that, for I love it so much though Evan asked the God king, both little g and little Kay has we're not blasphemous around here. Who is the better father figure to aspire to be Kirk, Picard, Cisco or archer, but a fantastic question. I dont believe that Picard was a father. A hung archer headed dog he loved very much. This is more than the hands and say if I can make it all the way through Cisco was a good father. You know here, except not the best advice to I take your sign to the farthest outpost in the federation and subject them to my car dashing and invasion and click on work. But listen, it's a future and they have a little bit different set of moors. But Kirk Kirk is the greatest father and here's. Why? Because if you are going to be a spectacularly bad father and Kirk was certainly that

The best thing that you can do is never even introduce yourself to your son and health is thirty out of the way we make available on its own and then show up just in time to save him from the genesis. Experiment, like ok, fascinating, I'm glad you suddenly gray ugly, just barely holding mines is eleven Marshall asks Ben, do think utilizing bad examples is a good way to pant parent, for instance, to teach my kids to be nice. Should I show them. How mean you are to Michael. No, they are not to be like Ben is to Michael, nor so I'll be ants generally, that has given, at least by by most of the people, have studied this stuff. Is that using bad examples is not good cause? Your concerns. The bad example of this is so we should not like show your kids people doing terrible things ended, don't do that because instead they want to do that thing.

So generally now, but in this case would be abusing nor the absolute leaves even in adulthood. It's a problem. I remember when I first moved away. You know little guy from Christian guy from West Text, you don't know anybody any fallen with a group of other christian guys, geyser kind of out here in the world and is trying to make their way and I became a part of what was by all accounts and accountability. Which is a Bible study about where you don't really read the Bible. You just tell each other about all the mistakes that you're making enlivened engineer like. I am that's terrible and forget that a few years later, when it would sort transition into more of it idle setting we're really learning things one of the I missed the old accountability days and he didn't like the Bible study because it got a little controversial and with a little bit esoteric at times, and he said you know I don't like coming here and is talking about like philosophical, I missed the old days and we ve just support each other and build each other up. You don't. I would tell you about my master Can you tell me about your mistakes about then I was teaching the Bible, thirty there's somebody. Where did they get used it?

It is a bad thing you or the teacher nearer to such em. I dislike it so much better than this Yuk yuk. Being the teacher, I'll. Never forget the bad guy. The original teacher said you have. There is always a problem. As you know, I used to come and like tat, that all the women you were sleeping with, and then we would all pray for. You would cry. We would all pray for. His again is good for making this habit. I'd never slept with a woman, and all I could think was I got that sounds great, yet there there's theirs in pretty good empirical support for the idea that when you see people bad things that you actually are more likely to think about doing those bad things yourself? It's almost like, they dont think LE pink elephant effect rates. Also, I dont think look,

golf and immediately everybody's think dumping. California will say bends abusive me has already made me an abusive father. I'm planning refrain. Meanwhile, I'm teaching my daughter is yes, you shed treat men like Michael, no good exert. We have totally right. They actually showed that I guess cigarette sales with an whisky sales went up during during every season of madmen that there was like this new memories. Interest in casually or socially smile, and after watching this right, I know Matera remoteness. But after a month or the really interesting we drunk driving incidents went down during the hay day of cheers being on the earth, because, even though they are got together and drank every day.

They never went out and drove drunk. It was always a point on the show right if someone was trying to make sure to take out a cab and get the other people would care for them and not allow them to go out lol. Interesting Bradley asked what do children, who have bad fathers or fathers who are involved? It all do where do they look to learn what it means to be a real man Well, I can tell you that I buy turned to literature. Is actually one of the starch about my love for literature? Is you know my thought? My father was a bad person. He was a good guy. But you and I just didn't get along and you didn't really think very much of me and at which we can understand But, but I turned to the tough dies allergic turn to Raymond Chandler read about Philip Marlowe, the detective I turned to docile and anyway, and all those guys and ultimately, found role models in those people with guys I sculpted myself after I imitated the might imitate the way they talk and ultimately, I kind of constructed

idea of what a man should be Hemingway. Listener example: volatile Hemingway with your example now my example of good Father would have a good man. What a man was supposed to be an element that you mentioned, Lucia down these mean streets, a man must go, was not himself me and that struck me as very good good, you know I have the millennial version of that, which is obviously we don't read ever our right Harry Potter, yet everybody there, nobody Nick at night was actually the answer, because when I was growing up they Nick at night had all cheap reruns of these shows from the fifties and sixtys all you're right, I love Lucy, I love loose while of Lucy. Father knows best, leave it to bieber all these, and that really does. Our Reggie bunker? That's why I like Donald Trump, and so they all of any great examples of father figures that are utterly absent on modern television. There's this actually really fascinating. So for those who are not run entire book about the history of television and one of the chapters in the book, I talk about the evolution of fatherhood on tv and

Is this amazing evolution of father that happen for social reasons where the left started pushing the idea that woman was liberated if there is no father in the home and everything from Murphy Brown to the Simpsons basically portrays fatherhood as useless If you are father the most famous fathers on tv in the last thirty years, Robin deficits were roaming. Homer Simpson is Adieu, fast filled, Don T whose seems like a good guy he's so do first. An idiot I want- and I am only think about your family- is the best written comedy- get work television. I can't watch it because of filters. They have managed to make known anyone re entering every father on tv. Every major show on TV has a father, John Goodman, on Roseanne every Father on TV is, it is either backwards or stupid or or just a locating dolt, and that's not how all of these things will not like to go back and watched Ex Ante extra demands, like as a good father, ready somebody who, even though he's kind of clutching he's a good guy, rushing knows what he's doing for the most part and that

Certainly during chose my father's knows best or the whartons. I grew up on my daddy's to Godaddy Brand Saturday, matinee and rent all those tapes. You watch nothing but old chest, and there is this. This purposeful attempt in the nineteen seventies and eighties move away from the model of the Father who, at the end of the show, would actually try to model behaviour. The last gasp of probably was actually family ton. Family ties record again. Family ties was liberal rides. The idea of the liberal lecturing his wayward wayward, a conservative Michael Michael Michael Fox, about why he, because of any more but tv has passed move. Any you can't neighbours via taxes by making the the husband Father character on television lovable due for their least making unlovable and if they prove, if they present him as masculine and strong, he is not lovable in the. Sort of values set of the people who write motion but- and this was it, but this matter Larry'S- that if she watched the sitcoms that work, the ones that work now are the ones that actually have easy. Conservative character immediately becomes both popular character on the show, because in fact a father figure right. If you watch parks and wreck- and you welcome runs, wants, it runs was, and is the most

LE character on the show. Any is Leslie Notes, father figure. She comes to him for advice. He tells her what to do he's. Grumpy, he's conservative. Then things drove Alec, Baldwin and thirty Rockaway does the same thing for teen effect is exactly the same sort of thing. It many speaks to a larger issue. The responsibility of the people who make these things that they act we are you're one of the things we heard that, especially as the sixth. In the seventies and eighties came on, as we would hear from sports figures, and we hear from well, no, not a role model unjust doing. I just do this. For a living, but they actually are they actually with their fate. As a spider man- will tell them with with those who have much of great responsibility. This news things really do you know how to drive me in the give us a chance to look for something? Maybe we can find it and raised me up a lobby you see all these people who are immensely wealthy immensely successful, so they can't afford to get married where they have two kids out of wedlock in their stone married is why are you not marry like what? What? What sort of example? Are you saying not only for your own kid, but what turns example

setting for the society at large and Charles Murray has a great book called coming. Apart about this, this, this exact phenomenon. We have a bunch of can of white liberals, uppercross liberals who don't actually live this, this sort of lifestyle they should get married, actually have kids, but they tell every that's bad to get married and have kids, and so everybody is watching the culture. They say. Oh you're, right, you know it's bad, get married and have kids because look what you're saying on tv, but all the rich white lips we are still getting married. Having kids like the marriage rates among rich white liberals are much higher than the marriage rates among poor white people living Annapolis. Because we're the line they don't they don't preach with a practice which, I think is it is in double insistence on tolerance an open mindedness, but actually is it broke down the walls of the good kind of discrimination which discrimination between good and bad discrimination between wise and unwise and they. Throw that away with the other kind of discrimination which may be essential in the marriage rates among from boomers to the millennials have

up from ninety one percent down to at the roses expectations. Seventy percent, among Lenny holes than it has been dropping over generations, but that is very low and it could be lower than that. Where does that come from? It comes from the culture that you're student you come that you raised and their lined everybody by the way, and then what, when that, when they say that great happiness is in avoiding marriage and pursue incur these deplore, idiots ya mean idiots. The truth is that Mary, is the greatest thing that has happened to women, and it is the greatest thing that has happened about. Marriage is a wonderful wonderful thing. Every pole ever done shows that many people are happier than single people and, by the way, have happier sex lives than single people as well. Despite all the mythology that you see on television and what the studies also tend to show this, this one's interesting- that economic, this one, but they show about having kids is that people who either have no kids or many kids are happiest? If you have kid you're, not as happy, because you for all hopes and dreams and its work, but I have seven casual get the running around diagnostic each other over an society. We decided that we're not going to make the decisions that are necessary to preserve our own happiness. That's why you're seeing bunch people who are really

for women who actually java biological clock, I can get married to fifty and he's still gonna have kids rural gets. Forty five. You How dare you I found before we, for we continue our nobody LISA go and say. Thank you. Later for greater questions will see in a few minutes if you want to reach out to release all right now so that you can get a question in to the panel or to any of our guests who are coming up throughout the rest of them guess had on over to the daily wire dot com become a premium subscriber, you can give us nine ninety nine a month or you can become an annual subscriber. You will get the leftist yours, hot or cold tumblr. It is the best way to drink. Left his tears its end. I M lady scientifically proven. I just want to address this thing about happiness when they always take these poles but happiness, a lot of funds for them they will parents with their children at home or not that happy. You're coming, it's gonna overrated, I'm having something you feel when things are going well, which is great and everybody loves it, but the thing about having children. They make more alive. You are both a happier and sadder you're, both more

Fraid and more hopeful everything everything about life becomes bigger and more dimension but ass dimensions, you didn't even you thought you were seen in three dimensions but suddenly realised what is my whole theory about the spectrum of life. So when you, when you are single, then your spectrum of happiness and sadness goes down to zero and up to maybe a seven and then, when you get married, irrespective of happiness, goes down to a negative ten and up to a fifteen right in the because now you should care about haven't seen a person like when you single you'll have another person worry about when something happens to espouse. It's obviously offer you want something. It is happening with you, Andrews thousands, just wonderful, and when you have kids, then all barriers are removed. Any easy. It's we're stuff that has ever happened when something bad happens? Turkey is the worst thing that has ever happened to you in the history of time. Something great happens with your kid. It is the best thing that ever happened to me in the history of time. It's it's an incredible incredible thing and you dont really exist I say that getting people to have the sort of like a cult, your according them, and will call you until now, the downside until now and then once there in and they realize

Did there in this called may have the tattoo of the children, then they can't get out of them and then is their job to recruit others only having children. I wouldn't want to talk more about that, and in particular I dont have children. I don't try to recruit people into that gold, but I do often tell people, including the people who work for us with some almost sure will start company at some point in the future. In the future court settlement. The best way to become a happier person right now would be to walk out onto the street and just marry the first member of the opposite sex ass you caught, one of whom was lighter than about the marriage, is so fulfilling and changes yourself underpinning of itself. In and of itself, like you said that you should pursue it, let's get it out, but first, let's talk about Express BP and another. One of our sponsors for tonight is made it possible for us to have this thrilling conversation and, more importantly, these days. Just delicious a cigar. You may have noticed that eighty indian time Warner actually merged today. So there's a there's judge who ruled the debt merger could go forward well, good for them, except for the fact that there are massive companies,

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In my view, this is part of bans long scheme to fire me it's not the shortening of the year. I thought it was the trap door. It was building all that. I wondered what this argument. I thought I like what we're talking about a sector which is just the idea of recording people into the cult of happiness, and you maybe but this is the wrong word. Maybe the cult of fulfilment you'll know I purpose yeah, meaning or purpose you're right. That happiness is a shallow. Although I do feel that a fair amount of happiness actually comes from being for, all right now, nothing until Aristotelian. That's basically Aristotle's argument. Right. You have tat you have to the man who lives the good life in accordance right reason in virtue ends up living a happy life over the course of their. Higher life- and he says specifically that of your- be at any one given moment of your life. This does not make you a happy person here illegally. It is from your happiness when you die. Essentially this argument. We get a variant of your life, you realize you lived a happy. Life actually did the best example of that in the last four weeks, with the crowd him,

what a right transcribed hammers is passing away. Then the letter that you road is just me- always area, I feel like I'm really wise means, like average than my life, we really have no regrets and I've lived the life that I wanted to live, and so If you reach the annual life and that can be won what it is, then, then you ve done. The right thing in that requires actual purpose is not just going to conclude on vacation that actually one of the one that's all you people like us, though, is that we now have to be a sort of evangelists for things that were ubiquitous. Among all demolished by almost by road. So obviously, marriage is one of those things child having children is another one because they have become more of a spouse, is a commodity

and the child is a commodity. Now you have to choose them, you have to choose them above others. You know you choose them in comparison to other choices that could possibly be made, whereas in the past that the city, even if people didn't have the right now you so they can have the right beliefs, they certainly existed in a culture where they were pointed in this direction. So in a way that they, so we read about all the time at how much it will cost you to have a kid, and I think about the value proposition marriage or the value proposition of having children. It used to be that society with structured in such a way that, instead of reading in the New York Times of I've a child this year, it will cost me two hundred and fifty thousand dollars the average American you're making like fifty Grand a year, and if you work Ben under Michael nor much more make him like an eye. Why why they can pay? So you read the staggering numbering across me: quarter of a million most people never even laid eyes on a quarter of a million dollars, whereas historically there is actually a value proposition that these things, like you

married as a way of increasing your prosperity of increasing your wealth. You, a spouse, then gave you, children and those children were able to work in Europe of working you're holding surprise. But he's in that increased your wealth and then, as you got older, you wanted to have many children so that, as you, I'd older your children would eventually be able to inherit from you what you have done in life and then pour some of it back towards some small piece of it back towards you. You had six children. They each gave you six that their income now the state has slowly replaced all of the value that we were supposed to gain from marriage or that we're supposed to gain from having children and not only that they ve taken away any opportunity for you to gain value any obvious there

If you get married as the culture says, you will have less freedom, you have less opportunity, but we know none of that's true, but because you're being fed that non stop forty hours a week as most people engage in culture, they become sort of a curious stick truth. You know it's back there in the lizard brain attitude. If it children and I caught you turn him. Fifty thousand dollars you can't work them in your fields or your abusive. You know you're, not, though not the head of your house in the sort of biblical marriage sent You know your wife will now rule over you in every way. They should have taken all the incentives and perverted them and then also then replace those incentives with the hand of the state, so that now it actually is difficult to convince people that a spouse is not a commodity as mouses spouse. You have a choice, but even aim even A choice that is imperfect will be far superior to never choosing to take that right and only the me. It's really believe the stages

necessarily to blame for the southern industrialization took a lot of home home economy whom businesses and took him out to the factory among children, Tom. I went to work in the cities which they hadn't done before, so I think it is just developed with tat. Ology, but it is absolutely true that, having from is now complete outlay and economically a woman has lost a homemaker- has lost her economic value they choose to have when she would do home industries in all this, and it has changed everything. But the one thing that remains true is that marriage and children? Is this high spiritual achievement that enriches your life right? Joy? The a weird thing we attach the economic were from the spiritual reward which could in since I have a good fairy people up for- spiritual turn into they did the reward that you get from your spouse is that your spouse makes you happy or in the generic sense, not their marriage makes you

you're like then. There isn't a spouse, making you happening your marriage, making your happier. That's all you got older and making you happy origin or just having children like the fact is that you put your values, human being in your status in various things that you do what you're statuses as a husband or status as a father, your status in a job, and we ve detached all that, and so it's turned into well. What makes happy about my space that most of US x for me of my best doesn't do x for me that I'm not appreciated my spouse most. But why should I have this bows? Why should they just go? Get another step, My kids are making militarily amado right now. Shop them against other options are threatening. The whole purpose of marriage was supposed to be the marriage made you a better person, not necessarily made you a happier person where you are going to be your person, because you are a better person but part of being a better person- is learning to live with difficulty and learning to live with pain and more into not what it all now getting your head Is it virtually every philosophy, eastern and western suggests that how you respond to actual things that happen to you to find your level of happiness? It's not the stuff that happens to them It is nearly a month is how you responded the stuff that happens you, whether you are booty,

whether your question, whether a Jew and what that really means, is that as a society, we decided that the only way that we can actually make ourselves happier to change the material circumstances that surround us. We can become richer a more beautiful people who surround us, or we can have a better kids were more well trained by various by various sources, but the reality is that what makes you a happier In about a person. Is you learning that crap happens, and then you have to deal with it How are you going to do all that? We can deal with it in a way that product that, even though it and with his good or not, you will not think this is important and true, it is a spiritual truth. What you're saying, but it's also that in the same way that capitalism hasn't made the poor poor, an operations haven't, made the world less free and logging hasn't resulted in less trees in the sense that everything to culture tells us is a lie. It is also my true. It is also a truth. I have observed that men get married and then they make more

No should then have children, and then they do become happier. So I completely agree with the spiritual concept that yes, true happiness. Not happiness in a moment and true fulfilment is not getting exactly what you want and yet married people get more of what they want our more superficially happy and are more deeply fulfilled. That said, so, for I would just be careful in necessarily its its use. Well, but not I remaining. That is it that it that's. That is the usual proud of you just like it. I'm a badly do right. Women there, that's also trumpeted bottom line. Is that I think what John teachers in what you no good values teaches that you make the decisions and good things generally happen you, but not that they always happened to you, and I think it's important to separate those two things out, because otherwise people have unrealistic expectations that are something bad happens? It's because, but if this is what your only was saying before about that, if you walk out on the street and married a random woman, you still be happier. The point is that when you get me, married to someone. If you do it right best yourself and other people, and once you do that you are so

liberated and so free and you understand life so much better than you do. With your completely invested in yourself, you can, you can be met. We badly not in the sense that you marry the wrong person, but in the sense that in being married, remained selfish. You remain independent? Who may not uncaring and that's not gonna, help you I agree and I think that's why you know that the model of the range marriage- I am not a fan of bright arranged marriages- did work for thousands of years when people specifically because of the idea that you're saying I actually when a follow up on that, because I kind of do believe in arranged marriage. But first I want to welcome our first gift for the night one, I think the favourite people of everyone, except ban for whom no person will work very well bonds or Rachel Day for a hangover. This now thinks we're headed before with before I talk about arranged marriage. Do you want to pollute your body with the fine incense, Well, I was trying to pay your man. Why won't popcorn and I want a cigar- and you know, DR enough for me there's a big fire like, and I was like worried as a matter of going there spilett like smoke.

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Your marriage was arranged for you. It was a series of think someone with selected on the basis of of values and value, and you weren't, since you weren't, selecting the person what you are really opting into with the institution and the institution of marriage. Actually works quite well knew the pall talks in the new testament about what a husband is, what a wife is and if you embrace, which it requires sacrifice on the party it on and the part of both parties. If you Brace husbanded and you embrace wiping in those changing and making better and create messages. So people were leaning into that institution historically, not into the more superficial notions. But really anyone who has successfully married today is in an arranged. Marriage Marriage was arranged by the person that they were to the person that their spouse was and one of the problems with treating your spouse like a commodity. Is it sort of presumes that the person you pick we'll be froze

and in time, and that is the person to whom you will be married tomorrow. But if you look at your own life, you are not today the purse You were yesterday. Not everybody can afford plastic surgery. I might age, but if you, if you look back three years for if you're like me, I looked back five years and I have only the most the most fleeting can action even to the person, I wasn't so many ways and I'm nine years now into my marriage, the person. I am much different than the person my spouse married, the person. She is much different than the person that I married so we, I am living in the arranged marriage of my previous self and in that way the only hope for That's! My marriage is the same hope of the people who are married for thousands of years reform of the wine and that he has done an excellent job and it is. It is a good point that did The truth is, most people are in arranged marriages, sense and somebody fix them up. They got the most have most both met their way through some sort of ex up from somebody, some third party, and that usually was just because I think that there can be some sort of mutual sexual enraptured right. Usually it's because you you figured that your work

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shoot out at it. I don't know if a person should or should not circumstances are different. I don't think there's a yes or no question about when it's it's. It depends on a set of standards that depends on you know the person's individual preference. I can answer that. I think that's like I agree with other things are totally individual choice. I think when you're done, When somebody raises you when they put their, three in their money in their time in their love into you. That's your parent, that's the person who is your father or mother, but you might want to know just like people. One of you know spinner tube and send their genetics off to a comment. Find out of their related to you might want to know where you came from only one other, namely that of justice. It wouldn't be so quick to judge you don't like, let you know don't feel like you would want to reconnect with them because they are in your son, delight then why do they may have? There is, as you know, at the bottom line, is that could have gone a whole another way

it all again. David a person was just you know in a moment of compassion, say: look you know. I really can't do much for you and may headed by may have been the greatest act of love. They were capability that absolutely no, so it's not cast an adjustment. I don't ever want to know them or anything like that. You know, and I like what you said- Drouet, because I've I've always- and you see this portrayed again. The culture sometimes lies to this right, because what makes a good story isn't necessarily what makes good reality, but obviously anytime, you watch a show about an adopted child. They always go through the phase where they turn on the people who ve raised them and look to the people who who turn them over to be adopted and- and obviously I think that speaks to something dark and all of us here there's something going all the way back to the garden of Eden of Man wanting to forsake his own father in and have the world of his own making instead of the world that gods actually placed him in it's a beautiful thing to to adopt

file, your neck seriously, will be with us later today adopted his sign in, and you know it's the premise. The only thing that recommends next year say: yes, because the great lovely has for asylum and an ethic is beautifully reciprocated by us, and now I have to differ a little bit it just in thinking, obviously everybody's. When people are raised by different adoptive families and all that I've got some adopted relatives. I think that there is a great act of love of the birth. Further to not to kill you in the born and put up for adoption as a great act of love for that family to adopt you in there, your parents, people who adopted you raised here is a baby. The very your parents and I think my advice to people who were adopted is

Racism is your faint. That's your family! Don't look back, he don't know, that's right. The parent next question Farrah asks. Why advice? Might you give to a twenty nine year old, whose father has been an alcoholic and substance of user for decades? How can an adult child help a father that have outbound well! Well, I think I think one of the things that they teach people of alcoholic beverage and being a writer of not a lot of all its is. Is they teach you to detach with love? That is, you cannot connect to an alcoholic. Either way you can connect to someone who is not an alcoholic, but you don't have to kick them to the curb here. So you cannot then the things that you would over Father, someone who was addicted to alcohol or drugs that is their life. That is what they have traded. For life, they have traded their lives for that substance and that's a shame and is it terrible thing, and you hope that they can break it because people with God help do get out of it, but in the mean in the meantime. You have got to protect yourself and I got to protect yourself because you are a vehicle for the next.

And coming up and you're the vehicle for the future, and you got to say You know. I love you and I'll I'll talk to you, but I'm not going to go down this road with you and I'm not gonna show up every time you create rather Cato. What you just said is what God help young people to break out of those addictions. Not with your help- and you are not God, then one of the weather, terrible things that happens, and I think it happens to all of us at some point especially pleased to this sort of superficial, goodness that we have some kind of being raised by good people in a good culture, is that we would sometime x times, allow that to confuse us or deceive us into thinking that we are God and that we can fix people that we can help people that we can rescue people from their own choice But you know our friend, I will say his name because he actually has a job. I say that is our friend he may lose that gun. We do have a friend who often says you can't take people's craps for them. Is a father. I hope you when they give that advice to his children. But it's true you can't you can't carry that kind of a burden for

the party, a German. I have an interest in in business partners for Helen now, eight years, seemingly them as long as it, both of us have been married, we have actually been business. Partners is pathetic That is one of the great differences between Germany, as I have said this for a long time, Germany's maintaining he's a human being is when he sees a wounded bird on the street and wants to pick it up and nurture back to health and my men tendencies to take his head. Because I found out about it and I think that they happy Medium is probably somewhere in the middle. There did you bring it home and boil it should focus on right there. I've lost track of the land. I guess what I'm saying is: Tillier others that now the very at all all your neck to ancient Greece does so that our final question for this round, but I'll be back later with more subscriber questions, though we ass. Can you guys talk about the role that a father plays in father?

That is different with a boy than in line yeah earth, honour and daughters are those that there's no, we don't women have fathers. Do you know how many women on the panel on resolution offer them we go out of their mothers why should he segregated that easy? We're not we're, not good people Letterman for five minutes, we're talking intersection now go in there may erupt into women, carry great fathers to play about the mommy and daddy. I've been hearing upward with Macao external if any about a boy, and you got a girl exactly the same right from birth. Exactly this mean, except for you have to be an insane person actually think me this, as I do that says. The boys and girls are the same, is stupid society in the history of mankind. Anyone who's ever dealt with small chose and boys and girls knows, there is a difference. Hey girls are sweet and wonderful when they are small, actually consent, and they can play, and there really nice and in boys insane boys are just suicide,

genes. All they do is try to run into the street and regular phase on things, and they are not there. It is true what a what a, what a father does for for a boy versus way does for a girl when, when you're a father for a girl, you spend most of your time trying hacked your girl. I guess- and this is true throughout life- I think- has been a lot of time- trying to protect your girl from from various threats from the outside, because this is the job of the man toward his wife as well the job of the man toward his daughter and for his wife and two war your daughter that men, not to be trifled with, rather that men are, can be very threatening like the right, and can be the best thing in the world for you with their plenty, a terrible guys out there and your job. Is it added protect your your daughters from that for us on your job is to train your son of you, gentlemen, because boys, either builder they destroy. There is known between from the time that there are some children there their building its how tower blocks or they are knocking down that our of blocks and all they do all day. Is this? And so, if you don't train, has to be a gentleman who is to be a gentlemen, they will turn out to be jerks. They'll turn out to be destructive,

Women. Also, two girls. I think I have three under sisters, and it seems to me that one of the big differences between teenage girls and teenage boys is that image boys is true for men generally tend to be destructive of others when they, when they act out, they tend to lash hundred others and hurt other people facing do not care about other people that hinder heard other people girls and be self destructive, attended turn it in self. Is why anorexia and believe me so much more common among girls that among boys they tend to to really be tough on themselves, and so Then there is a certain amount of esteem building that has to go into being a dad toward a girl that does not have to happen with the boy over four boys. Mostly you keep yourself under control, and this is why I see single motherhood, has an impact on girls, but has much more of an impact on boys when there's no father, the home to actually take care of boys or if there is no community of fathers red there's, a study that was just done. That shows that the single grace predictor of teenage crime not actually only single motherhood in a particular home, its single motherhood and a community. So there's a computer, if men around they can sometimes fill the gap, is left by a particular father in,

particular community by men have to be there to model for boys what it is to be a gentleman and to be a defender decency, as opposed to being an aggressor, because boys we're not fenders, become aggressors and other things it important for a boy to grow. To be a gentleman- and I know my father told me for your father, told you be a gentleman who associate with other gentlemen certain clubs, the average until you having did just recently had a bachelor party, it so important to us a gentleman this. There is a great book by Harvey Mansfield called manliness and talks just about this port of manliness and what it father needs to teach a boy is, manliness is being a gentleman. You know after basic after each after God is dead. Manliness.

A pretty wrong, it can get pretty wild. It's gonna what they talk about on the left, the contracts logs atmosphere, they they label all masculinity tactics. Yes, millions cigar man looks at a woman and she's, pretty always toxic, Mozilla right and also the way human beings appropriated for the last hundred years. But it is there is there is a destructive port of manliness. It's gotta be restrained. By being a gentlemen, if you don't your boy to be a gentleman he's gonna. Open, be a little monster. At the same time, though, when we talk about being gentlemanly or being a man being a man according for what, though, that's the problem cuz, we can talk about being a man all day, but what does that actually mean? What does that really look like or being a gentleman and how you going to treat a woman and stuff like that, because we're going to have different standards, and different models of what that looks like and in all of those things date there. They don't really have a solid foundation so too that, in what do we look towards?

to be a model. Man a model gentlemen, a model father model husband, you know what we looked, I mean for myself. You know I've been people would know that my answer is gonna, be the scriptures. I look to the Bible exactly I look towards him and I look at his statues and how to do that. But I think that one of the bigger problems that that's what I'm things that's promoting. You know that you gotta be a man. Ok man, according to what we know. So, unless we really get solid without a lot of people reject what the truth is on nets at other promptly. I think things that guy did is that he he should have condescended even in language, so that we could comprehend him right. What God is? We can't understand it, so God God calls himself a father not, and we look at that wrong. We look at our fathers and the beginning of wisdom. Is you look at your father and try to understand something about God? The greater truth is that you look at God and you learn something about being a father right or about having about that.

That's right at the top of the list. I you know I m guy, I'm at the Lord, your God. Let's get that straight burst like this. It's such a truth. It's such a high truth. It's basically along theirs which was higher than that in an information when it goes on talk about honouring your father in honouring your mother, I, like look. You gotta honor me first, trying to honour your father and your mother, you trying to be right by everybody else, going to get it wrong. Your love sucks. I love you so that people think like some megalomaniac bob. I just love me. Let me like not to know my love for her, you to hurt. You hurt. You hurt my wife at home and monitor everybody, but if I feel sure that, through God and understand, and in a go by statutes and go to him, to learn how to do this. Then I will understand what it is, because we like, how do you like you were asking earlier liking about your father being an alcoholic How do you honor a person like that? You know it's like world, my boss,

my mother, they weren't there for me. They were this. There were that. How do I honour them? We honour them by being the kind of person that a mother and that a father mother should honour right at least a half way well adjusted person Honor! That's what you do. Is you learn about it just like with the Father, if, if God being love, as it says in Johns the pistol you the first step of wisdom- is to understand God because of having experienced love, but the greater step is to understand love because of God that God is not love, but that our love should reflect indeed needed, for you is another aspect that I agree with everything you guys are saying, but we're talking a lot about training and teaching, and one of the things that the father does this most important issue is reference because a woman, a woman is defined in a lot of ways by her body. If you can have a child, you are a will. You know, there's a lot of other things are going.

Without their young lady couldn't happen is it is true, but a man in the moon is an abstraction. Manliness is an abstraction. You gotta see it. You gotta be there you gotta smell it, and one of the things about absent fathers. Is you can't smell of it? Can't see him when you talk about you, children. Boys especially learn and communicate through objects. Girls talk men play catch, play video games they should around, and that is how they communicate, because it's all about seeing the thing there. When you talk about God caught centre somebody we could see somebody with flesh on that. You can look at in a sea of all right. Let's get a sign to take you there, but I think that you know it's just when five There's leave man, they take away. It's like taken the sun away from a plant. It takes away. The thing that you grow towards and all the other stuff is is true the teaching and the rules and the control, but most important, showing

well. This is why is it so funny whenever you hear people knew me to movements? I teach boys not to write like how many people in this room I soon only from robust right and if you are nobody's gonna, kroner wanna have report you. Stay another important, but in any case nobody and I soon none of your father sat down into boys, don't rainbow of great, because it that's absurd. What your father did instead is model the decent behaviour and It is clear that the expectation was that you were going to protect. Women is a thing, we're going to do you're going to protect women. I do want whether our culture now since we ve levelled out the sexes did. Did they stick em titanic? Why is this? The ship is going down and now we're going to get women and children offers. I wonder if our citing would do that anymore? No one! I really don't want. You know said of innocent people when you say women and men are the same. Then then really mitigated the crime of rape, because if women are like men, they just want to have sex all the time. Only if women

different than men. Only of women need to be protected by by the strength of good men. Is there a crime to this sort of lack of Cassandra thing that men can't be raped, but I'm saying that that the right extreme minority of instead a lot of corlears come from this too, because you can read when you talk about recruiting people into the cult of parenthood, can read about this. All you want children touch play every key on your way. Exactly Rachel, if you were not in some way right with yourself and with God, if you got some way adjusted and put together, they are gonna fight net raised, and that is why, before we continue, I wanna let Ilusha go. Fishing gets more questions well, Ilusha. Thank you. So much for those great questions, Pavia. If your wife king at home. You want to get a few questions and we are going to answer a few more during the course of the broadcast, but you must first subscribe over a daily wired dot com become a me I'm subscriber either monthly or annual, although we strongly wrecked and annual, not only because it ensures that we get more of your delicious Delicious met

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The aid you're, getting ready to say something profound, I'm a pretty good judge like now drew will start to say something now, but I can tell the truth. I was thinking about the disconnects that people seem to have between also their daughters they treat women. So what you, I think, one of things that you're talking about is how you know having kids changes you when you have a daughter, you see this with a lot of men. It's on the nuclear album, which I have apparently now been forced to listen to because colonies programme, and that means that we must listen to Lithuania, where apparently not my cup of tea, but his new album the whole song on their about how he has a new daughter announced change. This perspective on me to that's right after the somewhere. He talks about how one he has its eyes and therefore women have to. I saw that has economic lilies worries that exactly it hasn't completely permeated his world view. Yet I think, but nonetheless it is true that all these guys, you will treat women like dirt, like grown womanly,

the minute they have a daughter, they realise if a man treated their daughter like that, would murmur that that human beings are your eyes, are utterly lost. Did by your father gave me up. And you know it matters to me. We talk about being an example. You are also being an example to your daughter What a man is like this is why I always tell people. The first thing is be good, your wife, because that is, God is going to mean em thank you so many women. They have fathers for bad than the end of May. Or bad because their mother after April set levels and marry their parents. It's very weird. You ain't, they don't move. I mean they don't know that they can expand, but really the only people can get past. Let I dont believe we're locked into this Freudians circle, but you gotta be careful if your father was a bad guy, you gotta be careful not to imitate Europe, your father to her daughter. What's that? How do you know it

I've calves, someone because, unlike the you're right I mean I am glad to be here, but also how did I get better pre? So I don't have any kids and I admire your idea. Was it really involving my alive? When did you hear what else Larry you will not in any way in the poultry? No, it's played up. Are you know? We see the adjutant dont forget to be a father today you know it's like now. Don't forget to be husband here that the best it is because we are all time you're, the most important thing in my life and my kids may marquise, whether they yours Rayner women together is acknowledged. The most important person in your life is supposed to be your spouse. You know, I should I mean really. The most important a person is possibly life is is, is the Lord himself who teach you how to love your spouse, like those in earlier my level hurt my spouse, so idle dared. Love her on my own accord. I got to go to the law to learn how to love her right. You know the Lord who says you need to love her like it

lay down my life for my church on it on my life. For you, you know, of course, I'm no good to my dead the same timescale show. This does not come as a plug right now we're gonna cut, and then I have no policy. Genius is actually the question I think I think on since some of us are married, but only two of us have kids. So if you are what what is your priority right, if you have to choose like is Is it wife or is it kids like what you are? What is your first priority because people tend to build their labs around this specific question? My view has always been that the whole purpose of marriage is the oh creation and raising of the children in the end like gift world on marriage, should societal impact, wilds gray for people who are married. The difference between in my traditional narration and same sex. Marriage, for example, is that there are certain marriages, the pretty Children in the whole reason, the God cares whether you marry another human being is put sleeping in staying in in writing it with another human being, is locked yourself in for the benefit of those children.

If you have your mind on that, then it's better, but I can see that We made the other when Doktor bore always think the argument, the other way that your spouse your first priority in your kids, your second priority, I tend to think the opposite. Maybe it's because my dad raise me this way that the kids are the first priority and your spouse in adults. Oh, spouses is sort of second priority. How to you? How do you view that one? I don't? I don't actually think I can. I think the question is not freeze and with that can actually answer, because the way I feel about parents is that they or their children's world. I frequently see people get divorced, forbad reason, young, kids and show the kids are fine, and I think the kids are fine- you just blew up their planet right is blue their planet. So you have to ten that plan for them. That is the thinks. So you can say the kids are coming first, but in order for the kids to come first, the wifi, first, let me another called may or may not have their marriage, not elaborate has got to be a great place for them to live, and it's gonna be a place where the again

see the values taking place an ice, see everything happening, the way, its approach that, like so many things, I've I've heard it. I've heard something stated in a way that I believed it was true and something that very same thing that stated differently, and thus I believe it is false. My aunt once told me that you have to love your spouse more than your children. She said enough. If one of my children was drowning and my spouse was drowning, I would save my spouse and what an end it bother me. The time says quite young, and I thought I was the center of the universe, kids at the center of the universe, when I came to realize that part of what she saying is that you you? Actually you you so? Oh your children, the planet, that it is that you have, but if she had other children about the ocean, nothing, but I save all of my children, I think, but what she sang is my children need a father. They

They need a father so much that it is worth saving my father for my other children, even at that expense, and that such an unpopular sentiment now that we rejected, but how she phrased it to me, was I save your dog, you let everyone you and I thank you. On another occasion, a close friend of mine, her father, said to her sister in a time of struggle. You know I can have other children, but I'm the only father you will ever had, and he saying something that is mathematically equal to what my aunt said. The difference is my aunt and my uncle are fabulous parents and and have raised wonderful children and this particular father. We ever encounter him as a group does not have a survey strong individually, but as a group we would most certainly murder him. Then we would all get together for the next two guards show and would have occurred to me like half way through life,

What do you remember? We murder. I have thought about it about of ice away like a baby, but I think that it is the key right when you say you do prefer your child, or do you prefer your spouse not having a child? I can only think that the answer to that is you prefer your children in the preference of your spouse. It's not a one off, that's that's being a good husband is the prerequisite to being a great father. Is the best way to show your value for your kids to show the values for your spouse? Best ass was as we look at it. I mean with the divorce rate. In the way relationships are now. You see, you know generations coming up in these. These. These cats rely broken their third there so in secure, and we wonder why people melt down so easily well, because their parental units melted down. You know, and you see people that don't want to take responsibility for nuttin. They don't think they're ready to cast blameable. They learn from their folks. They don't want

responsible for the does dissolution of their baggage and cast blame on each other. We think I learn that brought it also a slight look here, but I hear people who were you know and are no longer in their marriage anymore, and they talk about how much they loved their kids stuff like this. Why don't you have that grace for that the person you created, the kids with we're all that patients and all that acceptance, and all this that love that you want a Portuguese really is. Is it is a self righteous guys really you're trying to redeem yourself, but somehow for how much you love your children? Where was that grace for your spouse? You know show that in been I've. I woods I would posture that our generation, but the whole lot deeper. We have more We would have only snowflakes they're, just melted down so easily. If they come to grips with that, will there is you know now in the culture there always false dichotomy is so we define marriage and we say: well, I love my spouse so much I love this. I don't wanna have kids. I do. I just I want to do what I want and have

given recently through a catholic marriage ceremony. Other very pro kid where life- and there was this old unity of idea right this unity of the family. I love my spouse. I am open to life if you say that you're not open to having kids that that Catholic Church, I think, on the sole papist on the panel. They will not give you a marriage license. Not everybody gets to have kids a lotta. People can have kids, but the openness to it is that unity though, if you're opened a life and love your spouse, more of your love, you know it's it's that one thing to say that their opposed is great. And I use that people see them, they think they love their child because they see themselves in their child, but they hate their spouse for the same reason that do you know this is this, is, though, what we are really talking about. All this also lose entire, conversely, the great jewish toast look? I'm we are actually talking about life. What you have been opened to life being open to the appropriation of life, the continuation of like the dedication to my pro life, its programme. This is also what makes in politics

our normal day? Jobs are all talking about politics and fatherhood, but this is why I think that politics actually is important, because otherwise we are not talking about what you're doing for the night, duration. What you doing for kids and high raise those kids, then what You are absolutely right that in politics has become not about that right. We won't even talk about the ones there like the most base, that there are certain basic issues that obviously affect our children and we refuse to talk about them because we're such a selfish people. At this point, obviously you know the breakdown. The inside of the programmes in all of our kids are going to have to pay for, but we don't give a crap about it because the baby, generation wants his money and we want our money, and that means that our kids are going to have to pay for that or whether it comes to that there's this. This is tremendous lack of self confidence and how to educate our children. That's happening right now. I'm not going to put my on my kid because I put my values on my kid. That's me was my worldview and MIKE hadn't. How could I possibly impose my worldview and make it look a little? he was going to get imposed on your get because your kid is not capable of making decisions, which means that is up. You need to decide what you believe, and this is one of them,

Is that when your parents, I think, when you first have kids his true, when you're married to a certain extent, because your figure out what you have common values, if your spouse- because while we say don't date- is for politically into religiously or Intervale use wise, I think the generally begging, you should be dating people who share about it gives you best our success on some of these. Are things work, but the best out of success you dating somebody has the same values once you have kids, then, whatever you thought that you're giant, caterpillar panoply of values was, has two narrowed down to the values you are willing to teach her kids. What are these What's this set of values, they are gonna teach her kids and this is sort of been my interpretation of the most bizarre. You guys got to talk about new testament, so bear with me if I like that I am a fan happening every guy. I end of this book and the most puzzling aspect of the of the old testament. Obviously, is these sacrifices Isaac, which everyone is puzzled over for it generations and crooked ard came up with the idea of the teleological leap,

beyond beyond reason all of this, but I think that the what that stories really trying to say is not their God. Once you know your child who died, and I think that stories really trying to say is to put it in the jewish context. When I decided to raise my kid, jewish I'm making specific decisions, my child at risk it when I was in law school there's a guy who I was. I was gonna law school with neighbours MIKE and jewish guy, and he said specifically, he did not want to get married to address person and raises kid. Jewish. These said the single greatest risk factor. I can add that kids, like magneto Jewish, considering amount of anti Semitism in the world. So why not just move out of it and then don't worry about it anymore, which is not the worst logic Redmond. We actually want to protect her child. If your chief goal in life is to protect her child, you didn't bring your child up in the way that is least likely to put them in a risky situation. There have to stand for anything because standing for things major also most likely to get knocked out. Well, I think that that would sacrifice by

It really is saying when you read the stories, pretty clear, actually is gotta thing: are you willing to sacrifice your child's me? Not the sense like I want you to kill your trial. Are you willing to heighten the risk factor for your child's life by teaching them values that put the more risk in the world and standing for things makes you more at risk in the world standing for things makes you more likely to become the target of people who don't like your value system, and so when then the easy way in America free country, the easiest way to bring up your kids say no value system in all go to public school imbibe, whatever you buy from the cultural all get along at all, be great, but that doesn't create the warriors necessary to defend the western civilization. That's going to promote the possibility of a further generation, because that wine runs out pretty darn quickly, and so we have to do all of us is as your parents and prospective parents. What are the values that you want to pass down to your child and you have to have the self confidence and, in my view, the script a conference to say these are the values that are worthy of passing down to my child and worthy? if we make my child's life more risky, and I can tell you by the way there's somebody, those older children grown children that the proudest

for once in your life, the best moments in your life or those moments when your children turned to the wave of culture and say now I'm not gonna, do it, I'm doing it right work when that happens to you just think, like I'm gonna when you get a little because when you see little kids do the right thing it's an amazing moves is an amazing. They neither did. My daughter did something wrong. She she lied said Eric said: sweetheart you're not allowed to lie you're, just any unilateral, I'm I'm upset it you because you lied and she started crying because she felt guilty and then she said daddy. I love you never get away again and then she wouldn't get off like for a while. She was really like very upset that she likes it. I'm so ambitious and I'm embarrassed that I why'd you very smart for oil and she and she- and I thought now. This is a good thing, I'm creating a good person. Here, I am a partner with God and my wife in the creation of a better human being, not just in the inception of the human being, but in the region. The scheme, being you become partners with God and raising your child, and if you don't take their partnership seriously than you are, the kid who doesn't have a god and doesn't have a child's does now of both the decent adulthood, and she feels guilty you from

you, because you model that took rags and what he knows it, and what better way to facilitate somebody you know when we are talking about a child should go to make their own decisions. Stoplight then yeah. I agree, but just like anything else, don't you want to give them something foundational. Don't you want to have them? They have like a level. You know a level foundation in and a clear perspective on how to make decisions for themselves. It's not impose its like look, I'm not gonna. Take this bible, I'm gonna beat you over the head with. It is my responsibility to make sure that you understand what it is to make it. Like when you had that. You know that the situation with with Adam E O testing at that, but I don't like- I asked whether they wouldn't have been nice. If, God, if Adam, would have sought the Council of God, you know you got added hate pops. You know now see the snake is trying to push up on my woman right now, I'm not quite sure because he's right there, you know he standing right there and he has no excuse not to seek the council, got to understand what it is supposed to do. You know what I'd do. Instead, he hides in the bushes Algarve, Andrea there, but you know, but that there was no excuse for that and I,

even in speaking of enormous bothers date? They what? What greater story between father and son and and and his bride dockers we're talking about you're, the bride Yoda that the one who said that you have spoken of Isaac, you known, Abraham and speaking of Father in the sun, in the sacrifices that are made, the sacrifice to show the love for the sun, the showed that showed love for the Father in a show of love for the bride. I mean this all plays in this is something there is. There is a lapse somewhere in the car You are aware this is missing where we're supposed to line up a where our priorities in love are supposed to be Tino a man and a woman and their children from the first great gift you can give to your children is to model being a father and husband, and that's the answer to your question from a minute. If God is father and husband, you king, not, maybe not you can't, it will be much harder for you to pass the values of monotheism of of Judaism, Christine

onto your child, if you have not first modeled for them that what did even is to be a good father sent us every second, the second great gift today. That is to say no to your kid, So let me first Julius me boys. The amuses Christianity points, are you and me, and if you're a rotten, I never go to Paypal. They hang him with us today to see how we will write worth it gets a warrant for over four years. Nick right on the international scene and televisions nor the iranian authorities that are not is a bigger somebody's gonna, certain help me so that whenever that use more than they are now used this moment to say, if you are not a subscriber over at the daily wire, if you are not giving us your sweet, sweet money, money bluntly, our annual based that give me the shackles dinner. I think there are things you are missing among which are being able to write to Ilusha. Kraus

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at the keeps that keeps marriages healthy and functioning, and there are no obstacles. I mean that, let us be real about this guns do make their charter. I mean there is that there is no question that you lose time. They have to spend more time. There's more stress, you're more stressed out. I mean more tired, theirs it. These are. These are just things that happen when you have kids and it. It should make more grateful what one the big things is: making sure that your more grateful to your spouse for helping you out with urban as opposed to angry or spouse for for having to you know, do things that you don't want to do right now. Indeed, it is a glue that hold the kids argue that holds families together, but they can also be a real divisive force if you are not willing to knowledge. What it is that your spouse is doing for you and also, if you, are not willing to see when you're wrong, like it's near the old joke. As that, you know that the first words they should say when you wake up in the morning, your way I'm sorry just get out of here by, but it is true that I think that what makes you but human being and regards marriages is ready. Rising when you're wrong. It's a hard thing to do, especially when you're tired near grumpy to stop for a second and just say:

their point. Here too, I gazed is really from being injured, because sometimes you really are being a jerk, and if you can do that, then I think that that's also something else model for kids, because kids need were to say that they are wrong. Kids, never believe the rocks, the self esteem on more damage to children than any other thing, that's happened over the last fifty years and who do you suppose to express your emotions? I think we will We agree on this. Yet we know about something you don't have a motions, but when, if you know what you are greatly one of us and our effort of british approach you can have a motive- is that you should just be an aim that you have been a failure to get into a beautiful stomach, also reminded us just as it. But it's it's a good thing to be able to see to your wife. I am annoyed without saying you stupid wrangle. If you're gonna get me my life with another human being and other adult human being, and you dont grant them the freedom to criticise you.

If you dont, then you're not allowing part of what God gives us in marriage is a mirror by which we get to see our own faults and flaws through the pain that damn it's a horrible horrible is beautiful, but its tragic that we we see our rough spots through the damage that they can sometimes inflict on this person who we love, who were who were making decisions with? Who is in this battle with us and its true that that we learn the place it the? He says that we need to make improvements in our self if you dont, grant your spouse that that freedom, when there's only think a perfect that we really do, You think you think a perfect neighbouring. You realize how screwed up you and it's good for you. It's actually good friend. You can be perfectly loans, women, don't lines. Women Jerkin! I think men can be absolute. Why is there? No women a minute when men women shall have nothing like. Oh I get it now. I think you're. So we have mixed hearsay is about to join us and I just gotta get nervous. I know your wrist

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maybe it's graven on doing so? Maybe I got comes out with a microphone and goes. Why are you wearing a mask? I go I'm. This is a top secret. Organ is related in law. The mixed here see next year, seed outcome Acne school by an exercise because he doesn't know Not one time is anybody ethnic? Why is doing something- and he says it's a seat But I dont know what we're talking about fatherhood. We're talking about being. Then being a man, but as a opposites, Father stay. I actually told a story about you before you got here. It was generous

that concludes the kind of thing only motioning other problems very strange. I don't trust, but you you occupy a unique space because you're the only person that we're talking to tonight who has adopted a son and we we talk a little bit about it in your absence. But I'd love to hear your perspective on what it is to be a father to a child that you chose. I mean that's a unique That's a unique situation, yeah! Well, it was, you know, I mean we had the we have a daughter Chloe who, Sir twenty eight and groaning and you no longer older than your son. Yes, since I've been here, why but that sort of how it came about. Is that lives in our wanting to have another child, and we knew no tried some various things and did not go into detail, but Never cried, second, for whatever reason, we know we were talking one night and less lose like. Why do you? Why do you think you want another child? And I said, honestly, I guess I guess

had the experience of raising a girl. I would like to try to have the experience of raising a boy to and whereas they said well, you know no guarantee that if I got pregnant, it be a boys and when we just go adopt one that made sense, daughter brought home a thing from school that you know had child social services number on. It said every child the home and close at hand. Did the US and said you know they do. You know Chloe about eleven, so we went through the process and just became foster parents. We decided we wanted to adopt out of the foster care system, and you know that's just kind of help came about and we got qualified. Be foster parents and then immediately when you get qualified, they just start calling you up and no matter what you told them that you wanted better like the one you know we ve got trip. What year that even you, and so we we met. You know number of situations that we know what kind of heartbreaking, but so wrong for us

and my wife was looking for a child that was five years old so that it would go to school the next year. We we met Omar, who was with a family that he'd been with, since he was two weeks old, think and that family was leaving the state and he couldn't go back to his birth family, so he had to be moved and when we met him in always tell my wife, I always tell everybody. It was like the most direct experience with God that I think I've ever fell caused a minute. I laid eyes on Omar. I knew that he was supposed to be with me. I just knew he was my son So he was fifty mental. You know and you can actually do not. Just graduated from high school now were taken in the college and in July yeah he's gonna play basketball, wake Technical College and Rally North Carolina

And I'm moving to North Carolina for basketball, we'll be privileged to have an information Helstone Ass an hour graciously told my wife that she could move with A good husband she'd come first Susan, Is there some kind of difference between raising a child that you adopted in raising a job that you had biological yeah, I mean yes, there is a minute. You know when you have a choice of biological child. You kind of there are certain things that you just serve instinctively know about them, because their part of your flesh and blood or something you know they inherit things from you they in here trade from you. They their looks their personalities. Oh that's! Just like your mom, you know whatever, but when you adopt a child, he comes with his own set of things that he's inherited the objective

so, like you know, for the Vienna from his whole life review, scope, ok, the hell's that coming from you know a bit, but in terms of like you know the sort of feeling that you have for them. I think there's a difference. I mean you know we love Oman been in love with him, since he was Maybe but he's he's been sort of a MR heated and better than he does. Have any of our traits inherited he's got his own set is, is a weird weird question is really really only applies to you and me is that when you lose your life in the arts, there's a certain amount of self involvement, but just come with the professional I know you would never suggested, but as an international thumbs, I know you're an international film stars. I waited on twitter right right. Every other people's minds particular difficulty dealing being followed.

Well, yes, and no I mean yeah, you you do. We have a tendency, sometimes get kind of wrapped up in your own in your own head. In your own activities, but on the other hand your home alive, it is excellent that remain. I remember my daughter had Nino Career day at school when using kindergarten and the other kids were like going my dad's firemen in my bed. You know it works at the hospital and clearly goes I dont, know what I am not sure that the evidence the you you do have. My wife reminds me of that has reminded me that many times here in a very colorful wing having my head somewhere that shouldn't be patient, Lazarus take our last round of questions from subscribers overt daily wire dot com. These are the privileged few

are our monthly annual subscribers to get the right and ask questions at the PAN Alisha? What do we got? How we have a very important question here, Luke says: Ben speaking of fathers is your father's daughter and- a doctor, a route that is, that is the rule. He has in fact danger. I would never talk about such things like somebody who never talk to having an international go about my wife, being a physician in family medicine being in school forever, never ever getting out of residency ever on this, the fastest growth, the biggest the fastest growing progress, progress from the nations never say anything going jog above now, my favorite part of posting. The conversations with bandits to see how many of those questions come in

we're. We're definitely going to have to some point: have my wife. Unlike the Sunday, conversely, we got shit. Yes, other women in the officer very excited about the justice. Even just destroy me on air erodes destroy. Should Europe cannot way and then in a few years, will have your oldest child on ensuring that the fate of these additional you'd, like you so moving on a more serious question, Jacob S really good one? This is specifically for Ben. How involved should a dad be in their child, social and academic life? How, then, is the line between being a helicopter parent or a deadbeat So in that the truth is that drew is, is sometimes better. You know position answer. Some of these kids are older, me, my view is that when it comes to social life, you gotta make sure it could you not. Hang bad people, which means that you have to really good handle on who you, kids are hanging out with a lot of that comes through school choice in the community issues to cultivate and people you're hanging out with so keep keeping your kids away from that?

influences, I think, requires a certain amount of helicopter parenting when it comes to academic. The hardest thing is allowing Europe to fail and you know I think that It really is a factor of effort, so what we ve been trying to teach my daughter That is not a matter of what you accomplish its matter of the effort that you're putting in because of you praise the accomplishment than they get used to the accomplishment than when they face then they get really upset and they destroy themselves boys who praised the effort, while the effort is always just a factor of how hard there that's an authentic control anyway, because of your trying as hard as we can. You can't control anything beyond that, so that really means that, in terms of academics involves of my daughter from reading books to her in teaching had read right now: and all that by one she gets to certain points I want to help her enough that she has the tools so that she can do the work.

I want to refer to our own devices. Tat shows that actually succeed or failure rate along in relation for fur, Nick and and drew, which is because you have a dont children. Now what what obligation does the Father have to turn loose of the child and to let them become their own person? The whole obligation is exactly what you're trying to do that it has become himself than herself and be free, but it's not helicopter parenting to pay attention to the kids, social life and death. To the kids academic, like his helicopter parenting. Never let the child their range, they worry or risk figurative, that's helicopter, Baroness, and that I think is, is smothering, I must not the same thing. I noticed this with both of my parents, causing it's easier for the Father to the Father is not probably gonna be baking cup soon going to you know every pda meeting or something, but both of my parents were always aware, they were aware of things. I did not know they were aware. They were always very, but they weren't inserting them

so all the time and all this little, I think that with that's the because I would see I'm not an international television etc and I'd be gone in these little additions or doing little thing is a teenager. Something I'd see these poor kids with these stage mothers, and this too you know stage fathers sometimes hovering constantly in really and it just destroy that's gotta, because things not living out your own ambitions through it that one is really tough and having. That is, if we would the boy raw materials like what I'd love for you to do. This well made mechanism to do that it may make it an unqualified into them, either qualified to do something else suit. Although I remember tradition to your daughter, dully me you'd, you, the idea of becoming an actor, whereas I would have liked laid my body at why my wife- and I urge you, know, she's my wife's a dancer and an actress in Chloe. I remember she came home from college with them and said you don't think but maybe but coming up going to law school, Lastly, I would like why

so boring border reminded us the rioters, but also about the academic. You know it's a story. We had totally different experiences with Chloe. I don't think we ever spoke to her about her homework or whole life. You know she did. I got this, you know she was just on top of it all the time, and so- and you know she was great. She was a great student with Omar. We were just like

buddy, you gotta, see wait a poet under just like you is like you know. You just have to take them where they are and as long as they're making the effort that they need to be making an you know, then that's on account of boys and girls in exactly the same author, yeah yeah, aggrandizement annihilated, unlike his next, I didn't know their kids go daddy. I don't know it's easy go into, can do it anymore. I don't be like negative generally good right, because you can now, speaking of those kids, Susan Ass, take guys to everyone. What do you think about women who have been divorced but have kids in terms of what's best for the kids? Should they tried to re Mary? I haven't opinion

the socially army, you have an opinion about every regard is the sound of one hand clapping, and I think that there is real age age of the child question, which is that if you have a child, who is very, very none newborn one two three, I think it's the obligation of the mother but less but divorce aside and think maybe the father passed away because it takes out some of the com, occasions of maybe there's a bad father out there somewhere, but that there is a certain obligation on the part of the wife to at least try

two remarry in in the period when the child is still young enough, that having a father is going to is going to be part of their foundational sort of understanding of the world. However, if if the child is, let's say thirteen, we wanted a hard ages, eleven twelve thirteen. I should state that there is the opposite obligation incumbent on the parent, not to remarried during that period of time, when what you're gonna thrust into the child in the hardest years of their life is confusion in competition for the affection of the parent that remains and then once the child is grown. Now it's incumbent on the parent too,

pursue their own fulfilment in whichever direction that takes them, and even if it ascends the child, because the twenty year old child or the twenty one or twenty two year old child may still struggle with the fact that mom is now dating another man. But at that point part of what you have to model for the child is the pursuit of marriage, the pursuit of of fulfilment finer things for yourself and that the world isn't that now that there and adult they can't have all in the same way that the former we had all of you when you say yeah, I'm listening as the sole papist again in the room and very Anti divorce Sunday. The idea- and I really I benefited in in a way because the divorce of my parents happened rose so so young my mother. Didn't remarriage, didn't really dade my recollection at all, really my foot Nor did we marry that worked out fine, but I had functionally. My parents yeah, I saw them every day live with. My mother saw my father every day and then

the reason it worked. I mean that's. I really when I think back of my mother had data A re married. I really think there's a great deal of work I'm two millennia of a church saying: don't Dare divorce? Don't you re Mary, there's a big debate now going on in the Catholic church Canvas Emily remarried people receive the eucharist in all of that and the traditional people are saying no. There were all of these external effects that can really screw up a kid and though- and those are the victims of it- you know that, There are five years old and I can't really say that the victims of it, but that there is a real cost in Germany to having a basically right, but I think that, just to make it a little more general. I think that, though the real question is you getting remarried for the benefit of the travellers, getting remarried said that if it of you ever we're getting remain. Remarried would benefit the child. Even if it's a troubled ten year old who needs a father in the home to actually crack the web, then it seems more acceptable to make, but if you're just doing it, because your lonely-

because you're having a problem, then your kids at that point you first priority is making sure they are kids, grow up healthy, not knight errant happiness and all of our opinions on anything like this are kind of generalities on it's on one level or no actual we're. Not. There is a lie that reluctantly messy. I will say that the Catholics I mean is the closest I come to being Catholic is thinking if you have small kids and spouses, not cheating on you or addicted or abusive, keep that marriage to get man, and it is worth any kind of sacrifice to keep that world together. For you, doesn't go to that discussion you're having earlier now about the Ino, the the husband and wife having to make the major relationship themselves in order to protect and provide safe space for the kids in it like if the mother is not re, marrying because she's afraid of what it would do

child and it makes her miserable. Is that really helping the child sure? I think it's a question your ear right and and and then to point it back to the individual circumstance on on some level and and and still preferring, creating those structures that the child right you, your obligation in that environment is to the child, but it's also a true you're talking about sticking out in part of what's hard and that lesson, especially because we get such instant gratification now, where the these people have ever existed? We have the most access to any pleasure. Any superficial, satisfaction that you could ever gave me the use of e pm. You know, but it it people often framed their divorces in these sort of along false dichotomy, like you just want me to be unhappily married to this person to help this kid, and, of course, if the answer is be unhappily married to protect the kid, the answers,

but I just almost always reject that. Those are you're, only those that you can also salvage your marriage and build a better merit. It goes back to their country. And from very early on your married to you're in an arranged marriage. Now, anyway, the marriage, you have does not have to be the marriage. You have had that's right, that's the place I mean reaching this age, see some of the friendship you grew up with ruled with this. The things they suffer from worst are the little things they didn't fix. I mean it's not that it's not a big mistakes. We all make people takes along the lines of the thing you do every single day and even your friendship, you stop doing that. This wording, you and you know it, but you don't do anything about it fix it may visit. This is also. Why did I think, the only important? Can you make your entire life as you marry everything and anything as the only important session, because the kids come after that them in the path of all kids were were conceived by us, We live in a world where everybody is being planned, but the reality is that for virtually all of human history, half the time limit that debate.

We're. Premature cancer arrived at myself will really is That is what my dad always and we're going up, which is that there is really only one key decision: you're gonna make you cannot take back, and that is the person if you do that right, the rest of your life is probably gonna go find if you do that wrong, you are going to F up your life beyond all recognition and I think that's essential elements. Break illegal one more question this is upon. Castaway could say it, but I don't think we want our final question for not tonight comes from Brendan. It goes back to a biblical question: why does the Bible choose to portray God as a father when God is above and outside the bite? honourable reality and limits of male and female ripple of Germany? at least ass we go along with that and they'll do their bidding urgency. I do. I do think this is part of it. I was speaking to a minute ago that the question is why: why does about Bible represent God as a father, when God is obviously gender in the way that you in the way-

the Korean means a middle aged guy with a mustache machinery, big long Liberia, s kind of this kind of hair, and- and I think that the answer is because of God condescending, as I said to us in a way that new, we can't comprehend, God and so part of the beauty of god- is that he makes himself. If not, comprehensible at least Encounter Opel and part of how he's done. That is to take the traits that of father the trade of husband to call himself things like love to call themselves. If, if you take like a deletions fire in the sequel to we, take this sort of fruits of the Spirit, that means that the the virtues of God Grant Spirit, is God and those are the fruits of God, as patients and kindness in long suffering, email, the God, God claims

those as himself so that we can begin to understand him and then, as we understand him and whatever small way were able within begin to understand those traits of it, it flows both ways. We we only can understand God because he's given us some context for understanding and in the context that he gives us he's, also expressing something to us about our experience of the world the autumn. So God isn't our father, but Father is an entry, the understanding, God and then God is an entry to understanding what it is to be a father, and so why doesn't he use new, as in some religions, the feminine? You know earth mother, the idea, because I think it's that God, while God does nurture, I think, give us life which, and even the Bible uses a few feminine. References to God, and these their revenues would undermine the names, but it primarily uses masculine ones, because, unlike what the Pagans one is to think what

that. God is primarily about giving us life and nurturing us. That is actually that's the beginning of what God did for us when it goes on to do is shape us an constrain us and then after constraining, escape us for and those are very those are very paternal impulses. You know, I often think of big government as being the perverse feminine values that, if this law their gives. You freedom, the Father raises you to stand on your own. The father pushes you out of the nest the father turned loose of you. Those are those. Are our masculine impulses, the the perverse version of the feminine? If the good version of the feminine is give life give nurturing the perverse version is use the gift of nurturing to gain power and control, and so the

Reagan is a father figure of a president because he says out of the nest and on your own, I'm going to raise you to be an adult and I'm going to trust you and know you're going to make mistakes. I'm going to trust you to make your own way. Obama is the mother of the country who says: no honey, it's okay! I'm going to take care of your rent and I'm going to take care of your health care, but you really shouldn't eat that in your statement that so well said that, since he has Louis talks about that, he says you and when is explaining Christianity says Jesus. As the only Begotten son of God, whatever that means when he died for your sense, whatever them I know I have a finite intellect and I dont have the divine logic of the universe banging around in my head, so I can't explain what God, the Father is right. He is that he is, but I can know that God is. The father gives me something

It leads me they're, oppressive, expecting you know, that's our old friend, the uncle Aristotle. You know who's talk talk, my God is the prime mover the way he moved his by drawing up to himself and that's very father. We think anybody at the modalities talks about these prominence in the Bible in these seventy, the idea that were using constant human described forgotten the way that atheists read. The Bible is this: it will that's because human beings are writing. The Bible says taking their own vision of Father and then they are take it. Turning that into God is sort of Freudians. The right to demand taboo that their tat. You took her dad. You made him into God, and that's why? God is? Is the father and the way they did Jusan Christians read this stuff is that we can't describe gotten any language other than the language we know, and of God's trying to talk to us, then he's got to use language that we understand to a certain extent in Judaism, there's that the basic kind of division between in Female, typically spiritual level. Is the divisions, injustice and mercy. Some mercy is considered a feminine equality and justice is considered a masculine quality which, by the way, is typically how it works immediately that that is the way that it has worked to. My home differ from natural just naturally Wednesday.

Bring the hammer everyone because then right, that's just the way it goes like when it's time for the hammer and there's not a teenage boys on planet earth, Israelis, mother now I'm afraid, that's why, when the fathers aren't in the home, the boys artists strengthening marginalized boys illegal, immoral, Fraid of his mother, I might add, is that the idea here is that one of the decisions that they want, the question about- God is God merrily, a God have mercy, or, as God, primarily a god of justice, and I'm not sure obvious to the working of the christian perspective on this. But obviously the huntsmen perspective is that God is primarily a god of justice. Tempered by mercy that, though they would the world is built along certain laws and those laws operate in a certain way and God can allow you to where he can be merciful toward you, because you were not merciful, torture, you wouldn't this right is a sort of the story of of Adam and Eve. God says: if you do this, you are you will on that day, you will surely die but then doesn't kill out along the ragged. He doesn't using, kill Adam and Eve you. Basically he says: ok, you're, going

eventually which is God saying. Ok, if I weren't you just punish centres the way that centres deserve to be punished, then everybody would be gone now right, but God says: okay, well these rules to apply? But I will be merciful toward you and you should be merciful torn up because I'm merciful towards you, but in the end God created just system a system that is that is built are uncertain. Inevitable laws that, if you follow, you will largely do better in life and you're not follow than there'll? Be certain things that happen you as well, and so God is typically portrayed in the masculine, because if you are going to see the primary quality of God, the guy, the premier quality of God, is justice, which is interesting as we go back to greek philosophy. The main quality main virtue people are looking for generally platonic virtue is justice right so that its interesting to see how this sort emerges. I would say the christian answer is yes, his God is a God of Perfect justice, imperfect mercy and in that way, God sort of others. That old question. Can God make a rock so big? He can't carry it,

and the answer is yes, and then he made a mechanism by which he could carry it. So God, God has this duality that creates this sort of unbridgable tension of being perfectly just imperfectly. Mirth for which doesn't matter if we are only dealing with righteous beings, you can be perfectly merciful imperfectly, just in those are just abstracts when he deals with us now, there's a division, and so in the Christian, since he then created the mechanism to bridge those two in in Christ, in whom he is able to pour out his justice as a mechanism of pouring out his mercy. It is justice and cry so that a report is mercy on Us Ilusha. Thank you so much for your. I mean who need the winter night Bible funny when we have these Thursday night rather cigar note here, and building the questions for us tonight and thanks everybody who wrote in we love hearing from our subscribers, we joke a lot about how we got you guys, for you too.

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old hands like they have some wisdom to impart to the young, but so I would caution you, of course, to take all of this with the grain of salt yeah. But what let's go around and what is the one piece of wisdom that you would most you know, don't go to bed angrier. I always say the key to marriages to bathrooms and a king size bed. Everyone has their own urgent about what what wisdom have you to impart Mr Spear, not to Sweden LISA Railway realise Rhineland anyway, I'm buffer, Michael. So you know some people take yourself, don't Stop you roughly masses, unity are suitable, do it in reality. There the! I really think that they, the key piece of advice, is growing. Your spouse criticizes you listen because your spouse and probably correcting and that's the hardest thing to do- as for me, it's very hard to do because I mean look at me. I'm unbelievers

but that was the word I was going, but it is about it is. It is a difficult thing to do because in the middle of Arguing or discussing however, it is in the middle I deciding who has to get up in the older kids. It's very easy Thank ok! Well, I did this last night. Why is she wasn't she doing this and maybe it's because you know she had a long day and maybe you're being nor is jerk. Just like you, don't have a successful life when this indirectly you, if you're, never derisive, because its second and for you, but if you need any abstract, if people want how successful light, they can't blame breathing- that's happening around them. You have two, you have to work on yourself. The same thing is to marriage. Wanna have a successful marriage. You can't change how your spouse reacts to you. You can't control your spouse. His feelings, you are not responsible for your spouse, is happiness. You're responsible for being a better person. Then hopefully response will be happier because you're a better person, but I really don't think that you can. All you can do is be a better person toward Tor spouse and then beyond

There- it's it's just, not your control, I think use was why I was joking with with Michael, were, I guess, states Tuesdays was Monday. I was joking within that all these, You guys gave him such complicated advice and my voice advice was docile with anybody else. He's actually good advice, but but you know someone I have had and I've written about. This was not a single ever discussed supernatural marriage of of a genuine romances gone on now forty years and it is not- is strangely people ask me about it, I first jokers we're gonna marry my wife, but but that? But the key thing I always think is like be nice, you'll be polite. I see people talk to us too their wives and ways. They would never talk to a waitress in ways that we never talk to a store. Your name ways they never talk to somebody at work, and it just seems like that very basic thing. When you have something to say said politely,

no, I mean is she's still another human being she still woman. You know she still deserves that kind of grace and politeness and gentility that you bring even you gotta bring to everybody around, you really don't push people who signed the street, you don't snap and people in restaurants. You don't do all those things in your people take that home and that's the first where they react to and unwashed dish in the sink or whatever it is, and I just think it's just that little start thing that happens in with every word. You speak. You know that I think of feeds into actual good marriage over his you see people do that, all the time their mean to their family. There mean that people organised manner nice to everybody. I know, and it is to me that that is if you getting Zactly wrong, should be made to anybody, but if you're gonna be meet anybody shouldn't be your spouse. Now should say that people want

Nick. I think at this point you're the reason I want just reading already through the greatest thing. I have two pieces of advice. My When we had been married about ten years, will you see? We have friends a couple that have been married longer than us, and she, you know in a moment of just despair, go what's the sacred How are you guys so happy and Karl and Nancy, our friend said, lower your expectation and how does it work, things have been better than that's one thing and, and the other thing there's another slogan that I've had been. Hard for me to learn, but I think I've finally learned it and my friend Russell Friedman who ran their grief recovery in situ used to tell me this. Ask yourselves wanna be right or do you wanna be have. This is exactly right exactly right,

When you realise that you're fighting over something just to be right, then you probably are giving up your happiness. It's funny, because you know all of us all the time spent with her. But you know in just political life it. The method of debate is always to smash. The other and right you gotta, like that's. The line right has sown so crushes zone so end. But when in a marriage? You don't want to crush them. You know cause you have to sleep. Next to them, wake up and her breakfast together, and so it's it's a very different experience than the professional life to your personal life. How you are due to this, while the first, whereas others there's the whole efficient thing about husbands? Are the head of the wife? Is crisis the head of the church and that's always very offensive to women because

they think that men want what they want. So women don't like the idea that they have to submit to their husband because they assume that their husband wants to rule over them because they by large, want to rule over their husband, but in this is actually the dual sacrificed. There's no such thing, there's no such term in our culture. As woman gave them the man. Men don't want to be in charge. They dont want to be responsible there, not as good as being in charge they're not as good as being responsible. Women are better at detail there better multitasking there better. Many of the things that are wife has to trust her husband to be for her and a husband can't stay in his man. Cavan play video games, which are what he wants to do. He has to leave behind a childish ways of being selfish and Anna and an independent and now come and make sacrifice on behalf of someone else. So actually both part

in the marriage, are having to lay down the thing that they want and stepped into a role that not natural for them in a kind of optimistic bathing in the institution of marriage. That's my ultimate advice. What I would add that that also remember that it says, as Christ loves the which actually means in a we often think of it in terms of what I'm the husband, I'm the man I'm the leader, but the analogy is actually to teach you to be the bride of brought agree. The one who is, who is the other things which should give us some, also some sense of perspective on what's being asked of the other person, but but ultimately that's. It is the recognition that the other person is in you that they are funded,

really different that you know you and your wife will never actually agree on a single thing and the them the way that good marriages get you in trouble. Is that because you don't have a lot of conflict, you think you agree and because you have good conversation and say all the same things. You also think that you agree, and so you ll say, like I love popcorn and your wife will say I love

popcorn, and you will think that what that means is that your wife loves popcorn, but that is never what you are. You are completely different people you're completely wired completely differently. Even the areas of your agreement are actually unique. Indistinct and the reason next not lower your expectations. Advice is so great, I think, is because it's it's actually just it's not lower your expectations. It stop having these expectations that you were never promised that the other person will be. You know they will see things the way that you see things that they will want. The things that you want. You have to actually understand that they are other and, in my last piece of what I think is top notch, merited vices, when, when worse comes to worse, go to bed angry, and I mean that it is a little bit playful. But what I mean is sometimes you will incur A problem in your marriage that one single night will not be able to solve in the

Did it never go to bed angry as such, as always struck me as a superficial piece of advice, like we're going to be able to work out the hardest conflicts in life in a single moment, but sometimes all you can do is stop and go to bed and going to bed is trusting the institution of marriage. It's it's accepting that. If I go to bed now, I will wake up Morrow still married, and that the only way that your marriage marriages, don't in that they are in bed and the only way your marriage will be in bid is, if you or your spouse in it, and sometimes there's just as there is a surrender of faith of saying I am not going to in this, I dont know how to fix it, but the institution itself will remain If I can just stop, I have one more. I want more citizens. This is one that I've used Amerika great track. Okay, so women do this thing, and there's thing that, while we, my wife, does Us- and she knows that

the talk about the associated. So what is that women will ask a question and in the world I asked you about a situation in their life and you will assume they. They want this situation song. I do not want is that relations brain they want this situation. Listen to. They want you to listen. Mendel, like this our parliamentary. When you hear a problem you gonna fix. It is your dude, but when your wife, we are white just once the feeling you haven't listeners, so I have been actual rule in our house, which is that it seems now. I started this I'll ask. Is this solving conversation works great interest rate, has it. My wife is, is a good enough person that she understands that this will make our relationship better. If she gives me an honest answer, shall say: ok, just why would you here what I'm saying right now. I suppose I want you to fix it, because there's nothing that pissed off woman more than her, giving your problem and you trying to fix it when all she wants you to do is listen around. This is an amazing, and that is so true ironic. The first from encountered this eyes sweet little Elisa, had some problem, you know and experts

did to me, and I said: ok well, you should do this in this and then do this tomorrow and then it will be good for you just want to fix. What else am I suppose? This is eternal advice? Yes, yet we get everything else, don't sleep with it! On that point, I do not think that applies above bother, husband, general, decent bloke, Agnes. We will have journey for the evening on this. The daily wire back stages, sophomore effort gave it the old can't even in college. I hope you are, I beg you guys for training and for so very very long, and I will look for this. He again when we reconvene here in a couple of weeks for episode, three