Two weeks ago, United Airlines got hit with a slew of horrible headlines after airline security forcibly remove the passenger from a flight. After he was, he didn't refuse to obey airline orders to vacate the plane. The man doctor, even now alleges that security broke nose and knocked out his teeth among other injuries. The story leads. The of narratives about supposed anti asian discrimination on airlines, as well as general anger at the airline industry. One Monday A lawyer named Tom, Dimitri announced on NBC's today that a female passenger on American Airlines and cons I asked him about suing the airline. What happened? A video shows the woman crying and carrying her baby, as well as another passenger talking to a flight attendant the woman is a flight attendant hitter with a stroller while taking it away from her nearly hitting her kid too. Where can airlines seeing what happened? United immediately took action to suspend the flight attendants in question and apologized for quote the pain we. Cause, this passenger and her family and to any other customers affected by the incident. According to a commenter who says he saw the incident quote. The argentinean lady and her two children were in the mid to back in the

She somehow able to get her stroller on back to her seat. Since I was near front. I cannot know what happened if you try. Put the stroller in the overhead Bin or what the flight attend told her, she could not have the stroller on the plane and he needs to take it. She refused to let him take it and was to the near point of shouting the flight and shouted up for security very soon on escalating situation more. I ten and a woman started making their way to the front of the plane. I forgot who had the stroller at this point. She had her two kids She something about being an argentinian woman and yada yada. It was at this point. Things escalated a bit more, the flight attendant in argentinian woman or at the front of the plane in the crew area. Next to the front door of the plane, she was hanging the stroller refusing to let go the was trying to remove it from the plane. Both were here at fault, In my opinion, the flight attendants tone was overly aggressive. The woman was refusing to let it go and made an aggressive move grabbing. The flight attendant, which you should not have done this angered him. He responded by jerking the stroller harder and knocking the argentinian woman in the head and you really missed kids, the flight attendant should not have been so aggressive and should have been aware of the kids unquote. So here's the problem, what we now

is an attempt to target one of the most unpopular industries in the country. Everyone hates airlines. The same way, most Americans hate their insurance company. Sure, the airlines, but we despise because they control how we fly. They charge us too much. They jack us around. They force us to pay for, checked baggage and the like. We have to deal with, The flight attendant in Idiot TSA agents in airlines that don't seem to care very much about canceling or delaying our flight, and so now visual see a ripe target here is the truth. David Del. We have gotten off the plane, they had the legal right to remove him from the plane. Should they've changed their process. Frank urging people to leave, of course, but it's MIKE all right Lee said quote: I don't want to across the country in a steel tube filled with people who get to decide which rules they will follow in which they will ignore. I've been on too many flights with too many angry people to worry about the specific. Circumstances of their outrage or details of why they took it upon themselves to ignore direct command. A plane is not a democracy. The main cabin is no place to organize a sit in the main cabin is a place to follow orders. Unquote, let's say

holds true for this woman on the American Airlines flight. I have two kids under the age of four, we always travel with a double stroller. We have never attempted to put it on the plane and if we did so and were asked to check the stroller instead, we would obey the command. Apparently, this woman didn't magically got rowdy before being clocked with the stroller and stupid fashion by flight attendant. How this sort of behavior we'd like to promulgate, is a society or now devising every person on every plane to argue with every annoyance and then sue based on the reaction from the airline. Those costs will then be passed on to other consumers enough we've had it's dominated by hatred for particular industries. For years now, we've already destroyed the health insurance industry because we hate it, but we need it now get the airlines? Here's an idea. If you don't like how an airline acts choose a different airline, otherwise, will rule all of the airlines in a fit of Pique I'm Ben Shapiro. This is the Ben Shapiro now we have

needs to get to today. We're gonna be having. I guess you think the cultural appropriation is completely horrible in just a little while plus I want to go through what Trump promised during his first hundred days, in what he's actually done or go through this in purely factual fashion, see what he filled in what he is not fulfilled. But first I want say thank you to our sponsors over texture dot com. So if you are addicted to information as I am, if you love reading as I do, you need to go to texture dot com, Slash, Ben and download their app. What do they do? Well, they make it possible for you to access two hundred plus magazines, full of in depth, interviews and stories all in the texture app right there your tablet or your phone and you can do all of that for a really low price every single month. Nine hundred and ninety nine a month, you get over two hundred magazines and these are top level magazines. We're not talking about magazines. You've, never heard of we're talking about things like popular science and an in style and Harper's. Bazaar in GQ and sports illustrated all these all these magazines that you probably scratch you on your own and looking a list of them and two huge list

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the armenian genocide. The armenian genocide began one hundred and two years ago April, 24th, one thousand nine hundred and fifteen people, don't know that the armenian genocide, because it hasn't had as much publicity as the hollow Just it wasn't as mechanized as the Holocaust, but up to one five million Armenians were murdered by the turkish islamist regime, the call the young Turks they took. Place of the Ottoman empire they're supposed to be reasonable and nationalists, and instead of turn, but they were islamic extremists and they decided on the murder of literally hundreds of thousands of men, women and children who are armenian in Turkey and it was yeah. I mean the stories that the pictures are just horrific. I mean you're talking about mass killings, you're talking about mass starvation, forced death, marches, there's famous coverage of them putting boats filled with women. Children offshore into the sea and then just deliberately sinking them to kill everybody aboard a horrific the. The excuse that used by the regime at the times is that these terrible Armenians were Christian were to be allied against the central powers in World WAR one, and they wanted to stop that. Still today,

currency. Islamist dictator of Turkey refuses to acknowledge the armenian genocide in two thousand and ten ertl on who's that dictator he openly Warren. He could throw one hundred thousand armenian immigrants out of Turkey if they kept talking, the armenian genocide because they were undermining the legitimacy of turkish rule. There's one guy who took the armenian genocide. Purely seriously. That person was Adolf Hitler in one thousand, nine hundred and thirty nine. When he was dictator of Germany. Obviously he told nazi officers right before they were about to invade Poland, quote, kill without mercy. He said who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians. The Germans were obviously well aware of the annihilation of the Armenians because they were allied with the Turkish. Higher with the Ottoman Empire in World WAR, one rabbit but task is pointed out that Hitler's conference learn from Turkey's genocidal playbook. His lead political advice, Hitler's was going to MAX Irwin VON should know Richter who a young german consular officer in Turkey and He had seen all this happen. The Germans were well aware of what happened during the armenian genocide again, the bottom line,

is the most genocides are thrown off as some sort of political of political political tool. The world tends to ignore it. Most of the world ignored the armenian genocide. Most of the world still ignores the armenian genocide. I thought it would be. You know. Only worth while to pay tribute to it. It's a reminder that we watch genocide happening across the world against Christians, particularly in the Middle EAST. Today, the legacy of this is not over when you ignore islamic extremism, genocide become it's far easier, whether it's genocide against disease in Iraq or whether it's genocide against Chris in Syria, a bottom line is that the Christians are still under attack in the Middle EAST by the same people who are participating in this a century ago. Okay, so I know I want to talk about Trump's first, one hundred days so Trump a lot of promises about what he's going to do his first hundred days, he had an entire program that he suggested going to be his agreement with America. It was One hundred day plan to restore prosperity, to our economy, security to our communities and honesty to our government, and you can see an image of what tweet it out? Can you put out this contract with the american voter, now suppose

the like Newt Gingrich's contract with America and it had twenty eight separate promises and we'll go those promises and see what he's. Now, let's be about this. A hundred a standard is always sort of silly. It was. It was established by historians in the aftermath of FDR, using his first hundred days to cram through whatever he wanted, so when for Mom says that it's silly he's right, but it was from himself who decided to hold by this all these big promises, because the big promise underlying everything trump did in the election cycle was the Donald was going to change. The way government works he going to come in cut the gordian knot, Everything was going to be quick and easy and fast, and that's not the way that government Chuck Todd asked Ryan's previous about this, because Trump had been asked about the one hundred days thing and Trump had said well: I don't know who decided on this. Somebody decided on this, meaning somebody decided on this program, so it's Bob the intern, apparently, who came up with this contract with the american voter, but here is Chuck Todd query reince Priebus Overwritten restaurant is trying to run from it. All of them were supposed to be. Legislative slayed.

And that was announced, not necessarily the expectation ever be passed. But only one of those legislative priorities is even come close to about health care. Why I say it's a ridiculous standard and yet promise all this action, and before day, one hundred alright right and previous doesn't have a great answer for that. Jonathan Karl over ABC News is of course something on the one hundred day standard to say that Trump has fallen short by the standards that he set for himself during the campaign? There is no question that he has fallen dramatically short in the first one hundred days. Just take a look at this back in October he offered what he called a contract with the american voter. This is ten specific promises. Ten pieces, legislation that he promised to introduce court quote fight for their passage within the one hundred days of my administration, well, George only one of those has even been introduced repeals is not fully fair. So if you look at Trump's one hundred day promises they're focusing on

legislative portion of it right. There's the hundred promises again. So this is the first page, the second age is the one where he hasn't done so well right to the second page has all the. Legislative priorities he pledged he's going to introduce these acts, middle class, tax relief and simplification, no and the offshoring act, which was supposed to be a tariff act. No energy and infrastructure act. Now school choice in education, opportunity, act, no repeal and replace he tried it failed, affordable how can elder care act? No any legal immigration neck, no, restoring community Safety act. No, restoring National Security ACT, no clean up corruption in Washington at no, so that that page, that's right! Those are all his suppose. Legislative priorities in this highlights the difference. I'll show you in a second. This highlights the difference between where Trump has been effective and where he has not been effective. He has not been effective at aging how government works, and this is why he is not Reagan so Reagan in his first hundred days pursued negative actions, but Reagan's big, contribution was to spend his first hundred days on the bully pulpit,

ripping democrats in remember at a democratic majority in the house, ripping Democrats down for their failure to pass some sort of tax reform, and he was hospital in shifting the debate? Trump? Has? really shifted the debate on anything, which is why he's been wildly unsuccessful on the legislative front, even though I'm like Reagan, he actually has a republican Congress and Republican Senate here, as he has fulfilled his promises that first page that show the first page again. Ok, so the first page has no promises here, so he I was going to clean up government, so he said he was. Propose a constitutional amendment to impose term limits on all members of Congress. No, he didn't do that freeze on federal employees. Yes, he left later, but yes, third requirement, for every new federal regulation to existing regulations would be eliminated. Yes, you fulfilled that Five year ban on White House and congressional officials becoming lobbyists after they leave government service. Yes, you fulfilled that the lifetime ban on White House officials, lobbying maybe half a foreign government, yes, but sort of undercut by

back then MIKE Flynn, who is national security advisor, is now registered as a foreign agent. Sixth, a complete and I'm for lobbyists raising money for american elections, no, he hasn't on yeah, so that first section here, you can see it here on the left side of your screen. There, six promises that he made and he kept four of them. Okay, not bad, protecting american workers. He announced that he was going to renegotiate NAFTA or withdraw from the deal. He has announced that he would He said he was going to announce withdrawal from Tpp. Yes, he said that he was going directed Secretary of the Treasury to label China a currency manipulator now, and not only that he said he was never going to do that now, because they're not manipulating currency, he said he's going to wreck. The Secretary of Commerce and US trade representative to identify foreign trading abuses, yes he's going to Restrictions on generation of shell oil, natural gas and clean coal. Yes, lift the some type band: yes and cancel billions to the: U N climate change programs? Yes, so in this section he is capped, one two three There are seven promises here and he has got six of them, so quite good right

and then there is promises on the constitution. He said he was going to cancel every unconstitutional executive action memo in order issued by Obama. No, It is not true. With regard to deferred action on child arrivals data, the that is going to select a replacement for school it? Yes in spades with with Judge Gorsuch third cancel. Federal funding to sanctuary cities. He said he's going. Do this and he's made that threat? Fourth begin: moving two million criminal illegal immigrants, yes, he's pursuing that and suspend immigration from countries. He's tried to do that, but obviously failed in that because of the the courts attempting to block that. So What is he done there? So there are five promises there and he is kept four of them essentially. So, in other words, everything that he said he could do that was kind of the smaller things through executive action. He's done all of that when it comes to slate of efforts- he is not done that now. Here's the problem with that. The problem with that is that the big thing presidents do are all legislative try to record it. Really does big things in a couple ways. One is he is

The tone and tenor of the political debate to Barack Obama shifted the entire tone and tenor of the american political debate on to race on two on two: here polarization of of the american system. He did that very successfully. Also his big compliments for legislative, except for dad which, which trump is not moving off of so his big legs, The complement, of course, is Obama care. He also came up with sequestration, which cut the military dramatically. All of his big. Mr Legislative, this is true for every president executive orders do not do that much ok, executive orders generally, with their properly used cannot do that much because the president doesn't have all that much power. So while everybody is saying that Trump kept a lot of these promises, that's true good for him, but when it comes to what president actually does his role of leadership. Trump is a mixed bag, he's not done anything on the legislative side. Do you supposed to roll out his tax this week, we'll see how that goes. Hopefully, it goes better than repeal and replace. He said he was repeal and replace this week again. Doesn't look like that's going to happen that probably gets kicked down the road. Maybe trump pulls out of this

spin, but he's not used the bully pulpit in order to promulgate his agenda you can see that so, for example, Trump is still maintaining. The Mexico is going to pay for the wall. There's no evidence that Mexico is going to pay for this wall. He said eventually, but at a later date, so we can get started early. Mexico will be paying in some form for the badly needed border wall, so bottom line He had just three times in one tweet about one of his campaign promises eventually, but at a later date some form right. So it's a lot of hedging about a key campaign promise his home security. Chief Trump said it's going to be so easy to stop terrorism. It's not easy! stop terrorism. Truck never should have made that promise here is his home security chief, this general John Kelly, talking about how we really don't know what we can do here there's so many aspects of this terrorist thing obviously get the homegrown terrorists. I don't know how to stop that. I don't know how to detect that. Ok so again, promise that Trump made that he's not going people fell, because there's no way to fulfill that promise. Jeff sessions

The attorney general asked about supporting dreamers, another big Obama, another big trump. This idea, we're revoke, Daca and deport the dreamers. No, much the president did say, as I said this week to the Associated Press, that the dreamer should rest easy he's going after the dreamers. That's his policy, he said, the policy of the Justice Department homeland security has primary jurisdiction there, there first and strongest priority, no doubt about it, is uh criminal element that we have in our country that have come here illegally, so their focus primarily on that and There is no doubt the president has sympathy for young people who were brought here at early ages. So they can rest easy. Well. I will see I believe that everyone that enters the country unlawfully is subject to, deported. However, we've got we don't have the ability to arm around us. Every time line is mixed messages from Jeff sessions. Again this is stuff that,

should be solved on the legislative level and trump has not done what he needs to do on the legislative level. Yet, on the executive level, I think Trump spent a lot of the right things in his first hundred days, but people who are declaring him a wild success after one hundred days are not right and people Declaring awhile failure after one hundred days are not right bottom line. Is don't think that he shifted the debate in the same way. That Reagan did, he looks more like, button in his in his first term right. So the first hundred days of Clinton was based. Play a bunch of mish and even Our time said that it was a bunch of mishmash at the time and then later he ended up swiveling to the right. You could very well see trump do the same thing swiveling to the left, trying to get Democrats to sign on to his legislative agenda. I want to stop here. Say thank you to our friends over at deal dot com. So if you are interested in getting a massage and they give great massages IL dot, com is best place to do this. Fantastic. Service. The way this works is you go to zero, you download their app and go to Zillow dot com, they check your id and make sure you're not a creeper, and then you can get a massage at your house on demand, and they

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This is not to get attention you're going to have attention if you're president of the United States, the purpose is to get things done. Mister president, it's time to get things done. Okay, well as we continue here on the Ben Shapiro, show we're going to be talking with so. You're going want to subscribe is going be fun. We're going talk with a purse. Who is a professor of LAW Anthropology at the University of California Irvine School of LAW and she has an ab from Harvard and she suggests that culture appropriation is the worst thing in the world. We're talk about cultural appropriation and why I think the entire terminology is really stupid and just secondly, you're have to go for to wear dot com right now on subscribe for that eight dollars. It gets you the subscription over at dailywire dot com. If you subscribe annually, then you get a free the of the royal fictional film set on the southern border, terrific movie about a very own I'm boring about ranchers trying protect their property from drug cartel trying to use that property as a thoroughfare for drugs and human trafficking and go check it out over at dailywire dot com right now become an annual

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And Tom Paris said that only pro choicers should be How to to be members of the Democratic Party he came out. He said that this is not a pro life party, so we are not going to lie. We're we're not really going to accept candidates who are pro, Life, which is an amazing statement, said every Democrat, like every American, should support a woman's right to make her own choices about her body. Her health. That is not to go double and should not change. Bye, city or state by state now listen, I'm all in favor of parties having a line, but if they want to lose elections. This is a good way to do it. Now Bernie Sanders sounding a lot more like the leadership of the party, then Tom Paris here is Bernie. Sanders demonstrate that he actually is starting to think of himself as leader of the Democratic Party, is that he he is against abortion rights and so there's a debate about cultural issues versus economic. How does the party sort all that out there is much of a debate about that all I have one hundred percent lifetime pro choice of voting record

overwhelming majority of Democrats are pro choice. I'm going to Everything that I can to see that the Republicans do not get away. See what their horrific effort to defund planned parenthood, which provides health. At a two and a half million women, but if we are going to become a fifty state party. If you go to Omaha Nebraska, which has a republican governor to repay We is all republican congresspeople republican later you don't want an Effin omaha, five or six thousand people. Outdoor rally led by Jane Kleeb. Then new democratic chipper, there's a great job and if you have a rally in which you the labor movement and environmentalist and native Americans and the African, the community in the latino community, coming together, saying we want this guy to become our next mayor, I project going there to mark. I don't think so. It was a separate robberies enters in a lot more reasonable than Tom

which amazing Nancy Pelosi too she's doing the same thing. But this is the sort of split that going to rise in the Democratic Party because they abandoned their base long ago. Bernie Sanders still think The base of the Democratic Party is those blue collar workers in Michigan and Pennsylvania Wisconsin that trump just one, and this last election cycle Tom Harris thinks. The base of the Democratic Party is the black and hispanic community. Barack Obama drug out in record numbers in twenty twelve, that's a bit is going to need to characterize the Democratic Party for the foreseeable future. Well joining us on the line. Right now I want to welcome a sort of lawn anthropology at University of California Irvine School of law. Her name is now does this correctly? a full meal ao. I think not that. I think I got that correctly. Professor, I you know, look like professor ray what thanks so much for joining the program. I hope I got that sort of close to correct. Thank you this close appreciate it like horseshoes and hand, grenades close enough works. Ok, so thank you for that

so you wrote a column recently at the conversation, dot com title cultural appropriation when borrowing becomes exploit and what you said in the column was that, when patterns of borrowing failed to acknowledge their sources and compensate them, they can be. Garage is cultural appropriation. This is particularly the case. Cultural flows reflect, reinforce or magnify inequalities. So forgive me if I english language is slightly vague. When is cultural, appropriation bad like well, what makes cultural appropriation band well, I want to stop get back a minute and talk about borrowing, because I think the first part of the article that you cited I talk about why borrowing is actually a good thing. Borrowing is pervasive in human culture we all borrow from each other all the time we borrow in food. We borrow if you look at how crops bred language, religion, music and other cultural elements. Borrowing is a pervasive aspect of human society, so I think the first thing that's important to knowledge is that borrowing is a norm. Borrowing

natural, and borrowing should be something that we celebrate, because I think, most importantly, borrowing is a key source of innovation, whether it's Bach borrowing from the vultee, whether I actually I'm reading a book right now about the global dissemination of african american Music and african american music- is a really good example of how hybrid sort of inter mixed mashups of different cultural elements can create something, that's going to be the venue. So when I want to start out by saying the borrowing is actually, in my view, a very good thing, because I think it's a key source of cultural innovation. I think when it You know we hear a lot of discussion about cultural and cultural appropriation today and I think some of that discussion flex. It reflects a a broad range of views, some of that discussion, flecks of of you that maybe borrowing shouldn't happen. I I don't really want to dress that, because I think the borrowing is an important key aspect of what makes us human it. What what I mean? That's I mean yeah I mean I I yeah, so I think in some context

borrowing can is a key area because we're talking about gray area in some sometimes in some places borrowing can look like appropriation and that, I think, is a matter of context it can be a matter of when and it's often related to power dynamics, for instance, if I'm a member of a group that's always borrowed from, but I can't, if you look at the nineteenth century, if you get a lot of african american musicians in the nineteenth and early twentieth twentieth century through a lot of borrowing, some african american culture, but laws, for instance, blocked a lot of african Americans from even appearing in because Segregation other legal regimes African Americans had limited performance opportunities that that those those are the kinds of context we have to look at the context of borrowing to determine whether their approach appropriation, I don't think we can say borrowing there was a barring, therefore was appropriation, can affect everyone. So yes, yes, I I think that examples interesting examples of you talk about jazz culture, for example. Obviously, the

as there is new you're, exactly right, of course, that there are many laws that prevented jazz musicians from playing in particular places in the south. I am there were a lot of white musicians who who used jazz as as their method of of music as well. The question for me is: is an appropriation if they are the ones who create the law, in other words, have a white musician who jazz uses the jazz but they're, not the ones who are propagating the wall that prevents black people from performing they just like jazz jazz is fantastic, but they may take image of those laws and let me talk about a couple of different context. For instance, this is a great time to be talking about this because we just celebrated the 100th anniversary of the first widely disseminated jazz recording by the original dixieland jazz band, and it's a really interesting case that I'm going to talk about my book. But the thing I want to highlight is that they actually claim to have advantages and that's

That is the kind of thing that I think we need to think about what we think about procreation, because clearly they said. Basically, we invented jazz is jazz, has nothing to do with african american culture yeah, and that was a silly, but it, but it's it sounds silly. Looking a hundred years back, but we have not. Not the only instance where people of sort of made clean, which I agree is so here I mean, I think I think I agree with you so wanting to a more modern context because yeah I I agree with you, obviously that if you are literally stealing somebody else's intellectual property or somebody else's birth right in saying this is mine. That of course that's cultural appropriation, but I'm watching a lot of that it can we take it to a modern context, 'cause I'd like an example of something that's happening today or you think this is clearly cultural appropriation. It's easier, I think also to point to examples from the past where there was discrimination written into law and then say: ok, somebody is taking advantage of the band on black people in order to claim property right something they clearly don't have property rights in intellectual property rights. Can you give me yeah now, because, obviously, when people talk cultural appropriation, now they're talking about things like a white girl braids right,

afro. Like you see on college campuses, you see this happen all the time they, where somebody is there hair in a way that somebody else thinks they're wearing beads in their hair and they think? Oh well, that's cultural is this something that you're worried about, or is this something where you think who cares? Well, I think that even if I may not care, I think, some I do care about that. So what I argue is that we need to no. I think I think what we should do. Some of this needs to lead to a discussion right, because I think, even though we can say these things happened in the past, the past shapes the present right, so people that experience those kinds of things in the past look at things that they perceive as being similar in the present and say wait a minute. This is something that's happened, many times in the past. I don't want it to continue to happen, so I think what I argue is that we should be sensitive to our uses. What, for instance, I'm a singer. So when I'm singing things that come from a cultural background that I don't know anything about, I tried to find out a little bit about it. So I think it doesn't require that we do a lot of cultural excavation, but I think we should be thoughtful and mindful of past

in our present uses and think about, especially for groups that have where they have been historically targets of cultural appropriation. I think when they see when they see people taking things that they think are from their culture. I think it it. It raises perhaps alarm bells and perhaps there's an over reaction, some instances, I'm not a big fat. I don't think I don't think braids or reserve, from one culture, but I think I want to have a conversation with these- if incidents happened today be the people need to lighten up a little bit I think it's. I think it's some instances. Yes, but it's a bit. You know it's hard when you're, when you sort of feel like I've been a member of a group that historically has with things have been taken from weather, hasn't been composition. That has a big a knowledge, but I think there's perhaps an over sensitivity to taking in some instances. No, sometimes it's not over sensitivity. I mean, I think, when we look at commercial context of african american music until very, very recently, some of the patterns we saw a hundred years ago, the regional dot dixieland jazz band, even though we don't have overt said we

have formal segregation. United States, none the less. We have a, we have a fairly segregated social environment and they may be. I mean anyone can take advantage. I mean if we don't necessarily all have access to the same opportunities, and I think that's part of what this is all about, but in, but it does make a difference: either talk about access to the same legal opportunities or access to the same market so, for example, with their bunch of white rappers, ready people like Eminem and RAP is historically part of black culture, and you have people. I'm going to come along and there are people who see that is cultural appropriation. How dare he appropriate certain type of music? the vast majority of the rap audience. Actually young white people. This was ready to actually listen to the to wrap our white or not black, but that's not, but I can

that's not the question I would ask the question I would ask: is with a similarly talented african american musician have the same opportunities and that's the question, and I try to minimize falter, how that's cultural appropriation, not sure. I'm not sure that I'm not saying that's his fault, and actually we viewed on cultural appropriation. A little bit to thinking about my book is actually about creating market. I think one of the things we've seen historically that goes back to the original dixieland jazz band is a desire to sort of african american music has been a key source of musical innovation, not only the United States, but globally, and today you and it's really an interesting transition. If you look just after slavery to a racial environment, United States in the late nineteenth century was fairly impressive. None the less! You had a lot of african american musicians that and and white musicians who who who were influenced by African Americans, a who actually changed our musical years, because when you hear the earliest people hearing this music on the earliest collections of slave song, we sort of say we never heard anything like this to sound, so unique and innovative in that innovation. Innovative spirit has shaped popular culture in the United States, certainly in the musical arena and and even the gloves when I go overseas, be it in Europe or Asia. I sure music influenced after american music. So that's really important, but you have seen historical patterns. We're going back to cover recordings going back to the original dixieland jazz band with is been a desire to use african american culture, but maybe take.

The african American well, I mean, I think, that's a problematic out a little again, I think the date when it I keep making legal distinction, because I think that one of the other things it's important to note here is the cultural appropriation. You know people who have that have expanded the audience for black art in many ways by making it a whole new audience making that artist all the people who actually expanded the audience in many ways so, as I said today, As an example, a lot of people who used to listen to rap the majority people used to listen to rap or black. Now people listen to rap are white, and that's it. I don't think Stephen, is solely because of Eminem, but the more people you have work. Different races were wrapping the more you are integrating different audiences into into a cultural into a new cultural sensibility I don't disagree with that, but I think what what my what I focus on my my my research is thinking about about what

For instance, if you look at Tom Recording Industry marketing practices during the twentieth century was to basically create separate markets for African american and white music going back to the blue states. Now we know there was a considerable considerable, inter, inter racial mixture and playing prior to the recording industry. If you look at the fiddle tradition and if you look at it so so there used to be black hillbillies, Ferenc right, which is a really interesting. So in that and a lot of that sort of integrated history of music playing was stopped by the recording industry because they decided that hillbilly music was white, blues music with black and they they basically said well, if you're black, a musician, you have to play blues because that's off and a black music hillbilly music is an authentic, sometimes recording industry practices can contribute to deny. I think I've got a part in it. I'm sorry. I have to break your reading. A lot of that is is really interesting, and I think that you know if, if I have We may disagree about this. Five one take away is that we should

are worried about cultural appropriation to areas where actual intellectual property is being stolen and used by people without reference to its original source. Cases where people are actually paying homage to other cultures by integrating their there aspects of the enjoy into those cultures, and I think that we've crossed that line in many ways in american society particular on college campuses, where you see a lot of students who are protesting a lot of this stuff. But where is the what's the name, your booking where's, the best place? People can find your stuff? Well, it's it's still, I'm still reading it, hopefully will be out next year. The the title of the book is creating global markets for african american culture, curation, music and law. Okay, well, terrific. I really appreciate your time in I'm trying to get this correct one more time that and name exactly correct, Pumilio Arabia, Ok, thank you. Thank you. I appreciate thank you for joining the Ben Shapiro show thanks for your time. Ok! So me

while back to sort of our government story. I want to talk a little bit about the looming government shutdown, so the Trump Administration is now very much afraid of a government shutdown. They think the Democrats are going to shut down the government by failing to pass a budget. Mulvaney, who is the head of the Office of Management and budget and It was not averse to government shutdowns about five seconds ago. He says that we don't want a government shutdown problem has talked about a number of items he'd like to see in this government funding bill which are so important that he to see the government shutdown if he doesn't get them like anybody's trying to get to a shutdown. Shutdown is not a desired, and it's not a tool. It's not something that we want to have. We want our priority. Is in one of the biggest priorities during the campaign was border. Secure, keeping Americans safe and part of that was a border wall, and we store the Democrats are so wholeheartedly against it. They

Ford in two thousand six, then Senator Obama voted for it. Senator Schumer voted Ford. Center Clinton voted for it. So we understand why Democrats are now playing politics just because Donald Trump is in office. Ok, so Chris Wallace then follows this up and he says the government shutdown be a disaster for Trump on day one hundred years Chris Wallace on Fox NEWS, You have the Trump tweet where he said. You know this ridiculous standard one hundred days- and I know some of the media is going to quote Kilmaine why is he racing so hard to try to get all this stuff jammed into this week? it's really only one thing that has to be done this next week and that is to keep the government nine and let me tell you, that's awfully important, not just for the obvious reasons, because you have a completely republican government or republican House, or in the Senate and a republican president if you've got a government down a week from today on the 100th day of the Trump presidency. That's a disaster, so yeah

ask: why would you risk anything to allow that to happen? Ok, a disaster for whom, again this is one of the things that so maddening about how Republicans govern, and this is why Trump, one hundred days. Aren't indicators to how he's going to go. Although we don't have enough information, if something is not willing to stand by his spending priorities and forced Democrats to embrace his spending priorities when he has a majority in the house in a majority in the Senate. When can Republicans ever expect to push it conservative agenda at any point, I was told that when can shut down the government under Barack Obama, because Barack Obama refused to sign into law. Any wallet the Obamacare. I was told but that would damage Republicans and yet now who is president and when Democrats threaten to shut down the government, I'm told it's going to damage trump. It's amazing how this works anytime, the government, the Republicans, campaigned on. We want less government and anytime there's less government were told it's going to damage republicans, maybe Republicans just become Democrats? If that's the way this works, if every time the government shuts down while going to panic and freak out if every time Republicans cut

we're told that Republicans are going to lose votes. Maybe republicans should just convert, become Democrats, and then they can argue inside the Democratic Party about marginal issues that don't matter, it's really really maddening bottom line. Is Trump's gotta stand up and he's got to start pushing an agenda he's the president he's got. The bully pulpit was going to use it for something useful, as opposed to going around and just sort of rallying support the things that he has no apparent intention of doing anytime soon. Ok, So I get to things I like honestly, thank you to our sponsors over at stamps dot com. So if you are sick of waiting in line at the Post office 'cause it takes too long. Then you know You go to stamps dot, com right now and sign up use that promo codes. Turn the microphone, a search bar four week, trial with postage and digital scale and check it out stamps dot, COM Shapiro in the microphone search bar and it does close like the post office, so you can always get your postage and

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If I'm not mistaken. I believe this was originally one of the overtures to Fidelio and it renamed. Basically, he between apparently October, one thousand, eight hundred and nine in June, one thousand eight hundred and ten- and it is. It is really just great yeah. It's I change right. A lot. I'm wrong, definitely ignore that. But it's a great piece of music here is a little bit. The Egmont overture.

play the whole thing. Obviously, so, basically he wrote this right after he wrote the Eroica. Your uncle is his third symphony and he famously dedicated the Orokin a napoleon and then, after Napoleon declared emperor, then Beethoven scratched at the dedication to Napoleon and rode into the memory of a great man, because he was so angry Napoleon for having overthrown democracy the Overture was written for a play. I guess about somebody who sort of rebelled against Napoleon's rule and set it great piece of music really really dramatic, so you can check the Egmont Overture other things that I like so the plants are going on. This had to be staged, bye love it anyway, so apparently they had that a clippers fan and a charge as fan race around in these bubbles at during halftime and

you'll, see things sort of went wrong. You see the adult clippers fan and he just knocks over this kid, and then here comes the mascot, Utah Jazz mascot, and allows the clippers fan. It's got to be staged right, guys, there's no answer real. I mean it's funny anyway, but anytime somebody knocked down again that gets plowed over I'm in favor of it, so whether it's fake or real, pretty funny stuff, so I can enjoy come on it's alright, Find time for some things I hate so Berkeley is still attempting to shut down and culture. They tried to shift her speech to May seconds. That is, after the ends, of course, and now become sort of a flash point for people who want to go and make a big stink of Berkeley, and so I know that Miley Annapolis, you can try to make a big comeback at Berkeley so she Ann Coulter, is still going to try and go speak there. I guess I guess they may have felt lawsuit against the literally. I don't know if she's actually going to follow through on speaking there. I think the idea was that she was going to try to so we'll see what

later this week, even the left is beginning to understand how insane these Antifa people are. I enhancing the the broader left is for attempting to stop, and culture from speaking here is Where is Bernie Sanders saying the right thing I hate this just because now I have to agree with Bernie Sanders. What has this world come to? Not the statement. He said that Ann Coulter has a right to speak, but Bill Maher said the same thing. So here's Bill Maher, that's different but does she was, I was the speaker at Berkeley a couple years ago when they disinvited may and then they got their act together and I wound up doing it and apparently that's what's going to happen with her. I think what Berkeley you know, used to be the cradle of free speech, and now it's just the cradle for fucking baby and I I feel like you know this goes on all over the country on campuses. They invite someone to speak who's, not exactly what liberals want to hear and they want to shut her. I feel like this is the liberals version of book book burning yeah and it's got to stop Howard dean tweeted today

out, this hate speech is not protected by the first amendment. Yes, it is threats are not pretty. But by the first amendment. This is why this is Preme Court said the Nazis could march in Skokie full bunch, but that's what first. Amendment means it doesn't mean just shut up and agree with me good for bill This is one area where Mars really consistent in good for him. I just hate that, I hate that the left has become so radical that people, like Howard Dean, are saying things sort of things. They're saying he quoted a case culture plan skate to the idea of nineteen forty two case to the idea that they hate speeches protected. That case was about a guy who called someone a damned fascist and then the guy punched him, and they said that that wasn't protected speech. Chip he's basically been overruled, if not explicitly, then then, implicitly, by a bunch of other cases, but In that case he specifically insulted a guy directly to his face, so even that doesn't apply here, but the left is just over at skis when it comes to free speech, they don't like free speech. Ok, other things that I hate so in the French

it's: it's now: Marine Le Pen in the in final she's, going to basically run, the situation. Therefore candidates. All of them are about twenty percent that people who There's macron today, a capitalist lefty in search of social Democrat Lefty and Marine Le Pen, who is a big government european far right leader and Ten a is attacking globalism. She ends up in the runoff off against Makran who's, expected to he's up twenty five points, or so here she is talking about why this is now. Between nationalism and globalism, yeah, I'm sure the every french person have been aware of the fact that the system tried through every possible mean to stifle the big political debate that election should have been, but that big debate it's going to take place. Long lost, so the thing that I hate that thing that I hate is Europe and when I say hey you're up, I don't mean that I hate Europe as a whole. What I do here?

is that european politics is basically split between international socialists like Mccrone or HOLLAND and they're, not the same person. Mccrudden hold on both believe that the EU should rule from above they should issue regulations which you get rid of national borders and national character, and then you have people like in the who's in favor of nationalism, but you want a big government nationalism that quote unquote care of all of its citizens, but shots all of its borders. Okay, I'm fine with the idea the want to preserve your dominant culture by preventing people who not going to assimilate from entering the country. With that general concept, that I don't no problem with that, I do have a problem with the idea that that has to be combined with this big government. Distribution is in, which is what la penance for the United States has a very different brand of conservatism. It says sickly, if you are willing to assimilate just like the plan, would check, if you're willing to assimilate, you can come on and although the Le Pen actually says even if you're willing to assimilate, we may not let you in but american conservatism says if you are willing to assimilate to art style of life and thought you are welcome to come in, We also then add that you

to believe in small goverment and individual liberty. That is something that none of these parties ever discuss. Small government, individual liberty are for into the european system. That's why? When people say Le Pen is our Trump or Trump is out of the pen, that's not a good thing. Okay, the United States should not be battle between Le Pen and mccrone. The United States should be a battle between the founding id allergy and everybody else in right now there are very few people who seem to represent that anymore, be back here tomorrow, the President Trump supposed to make big statement about taxes, I believe so discuss all of that. I'm Ben Shapiro. This is the Ben Shapiro show