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Is there a top priority? They decided that they're going to cancel many many valuable Hollywood entertainers, and we have decided that we are going to make movies with those peoples. The civically with Tuna Corona Ilusha mentioned the Sunday special been it really was. I think it may have been the best Sunday Special ever Gina telling her side of story was just remarkable. I want to talk about what and the Chinese specifically for the three or four people who live on the rocks and didn't pick up on it. But what I really want to talk about is the by four cases of the culture, the by four cases of the economy. The the the tragedy in the comedy of the whole thing and the opportunities that at present, so would you mind, walk into this briefly through genus Joe, I mean the way the Gina told it. An infernal should watch the Sunday special because it really does allow you see her side of the story in her own words in Vienna is just a lovely human being a wonder. Lovely can, being I had her over for our friend in a generous we actually had Travis together is really nice. My kids loved her answer and why

haven't. Juno, basically is that should really bunch stuff the Disney didn't like none of it was particularly horrifying are controversial. And the buyer, and it really is that simple. I had started when she had treated a joke about the pressure. The people receive our minds, but their pronouns in there in their twitter profile, should put in her twitter profile, Bebop group, which is actually pretty funny gotta, go road, droid noises and Disney like collar into a room and aid they wanted her to have Canada woke MA two zero session with Orange, that I really want to do that and what actually get a roman talk with actual human beings, and I and these they finally tunnel. Let her do that. and then they would not let her do any press basically from then on. They cut her out of all of the press materials for the man of war, and even this is one of the great stars in the show, and then you fast forward and post election. She started tweeting things fairly well attempted unconcerned, encircles like if you won crackdown on voter fraud, perhaps there should devote ready. I tweeted. like two days after the election and people like us, is that she is in favour of lies about you know, that's that's, aren't you treated and then

a few days later. She treated something about how Americans should remove them, ask from their eyes they can do is actually going on. With regard to covet again is a fairly stream conservative position even for people like me? What's it doesn't are protected from the virus is on your eyes on her in any case that that was that was really not particularly controversial and then she treated out. This does mean that was just a picture very famous for from the Holocaust of a jewish woman running away from german soldiers and the text next to it was fairly generic. said these sorts of evils don't happen in a vacuum. They start off with people dehumanizing other human beings, and if you treat people horribly and eventually you could end up at this place, and so you should remember this when you treat people horribly, because their politics, which thoroughly reasonable generic statement. Now, I'm not a huge fan of cost. Comparisons are generally feel the most them are overwrought, but there is thing remotely anti semitic about this one animal and in the world of Holocaust comparisons, this one.

like the lowest ten percent in terms of controversial, because it's a pretty generic Stephen about dehumanization. Whether people in fact have seen the Auschwitz Memorial Museum put out very similar tweets actually about the generic nature of dehumanizing other people and how that leads to problem down the road, including death for people I, and so this time into a big hullabaloo with Disney and Lucasfilm deciding that it was time for Gina to be ousted. Apparently it's been in the works for a couple of months. I've been meaning to announce her as a spin off star from the mandalorian in one of their own series. They canceled that in in December, and they were looking for an excuse to counter these. This is the excuse, the counter, despite the fact that it'll pass four star: the mandatory in its weeded out a meme comparing outfits, two kids being held cages into doesn't eighteen using a picture that was from the pile. Estonian Authority in two thousand fourteenth, and it was in, of course, nobler back to that, so your basically after the cancer she found out about this essentially

via the social media. The way we do away with a ready we found out about these acts in time that unity, then you give her the courtesy of a call. They just said you're not coming back. That's it in social media ends. and we saw this your daily wired we reached out- I would shatter personally Vanessa wasn't this. Is it really tragic? What's happening to you, because it's not about the money. It's about the dream. If, if you ever go to Hollywood and work of folks in Hollywood in pretty much all of us, except format, had actually have actually done this people who move out to Hollywood move out there because their dream is to be in a hurry, like a man, Delorean mean is the biggest show or in tv right now, a starring role in that and to take that away from somebody summarily and to destroy their career in the process, because their release to statements, essential issues, an anti semite natures, racist and all the stuff be categorized people on the basis of religion. ethnic, diminish, the wise, not true, and they in and for them to do that was an act of cruelty is extreme cruelty. So a so called her up and- and I said to her- you know it's terrible- what's happening to you, but it's a real opportunity to punch back at these bastards and we should push back

because nobody has ever said to them. You know what fine you wanna counts we are not cancelled because there's a whole side political I'll it doesnt agree that I should be cancelled, and so you know what I'm God you my own thing over here and so that we now need to ensure good for her, because it was an act of river on her part, for us is an opportunity right for us it. What I mean I'll be to be honest with you ever. Somebody in mainstream ins remains from culture is cancelled. I put recalls I probably put, and over the course of the last for five years at least fifty to various mainstream figures have been cancelled for batteries into its is something that I just do on regular by the liberal or conservative there. Many people and left I've done this for Juno is just another person was like that, but generally took up the opportunity and said: ok, let's do this is an opportune They have been wanting to do this anyway. I don't deserve to be cancelled and Americans need we stand up for themselves, so I'm happy to come over here and I'm happy to make a movie with you guys, and we could not be more

up about our audience certainly can be more pumped up out of state against making the history the daily wire. I think people miss that China Kronos a real human may. Sometimes you read these stories about us about political figures, about entertainment figures and we're two dimensional endemic since, as we come to you on a screen which automate which makes should a mention of also because we have no souls I've. Actually, I'm do together, but genus and actual human they took. They took her career away from here. Her agent dropped her her. Her attorney dropped her her publicist dropper, like they took all the tools necessary to have a career away from our. They took the biggest show away from her. They took her ability to pay the bills away from where they took her good name away from our Lucas. Film called her absence said that she categorize people on the basis of religion and ethnic city, which she did not do fundamental its defamation, because it is a hundred

said untrue. That's not even a possible interpretation of the things that she has said. The fact that we have been able to get on the phone in that situation, I think, is fairly remarkable. She was having what must be one of the worst days that a person can possibly endure win. Their career and their good name of our having a serious all brown. That's about is that gets right there with you, the terrific thing about it and the reason, I'm sure, got glare does acted. I really hate to compliment you because you know who you are, but still I really am happy. You acted is because we all support free speech, and that means when they take an Alex Jones off the air. I'm offended, I think the Alex Jones should have a platform. I think he's at he's a loon, but he should have a platform because who cares you know we can We can defeat his grand they're, making the frogs get with the truth. We are making Europe, but but the thing is we defending a guy that we don't agree with that we think is is out of his mind. Here is a case where this committee did literally zero percent

long May. She heard her tweet and I'm with you, I don't like Holocaust comparisons cursor over the top, but didn't really even deal with that. She was making a perfectly valid point that you begin by dehumanizing people and you end by hurting them and that's what is happening in our societies are perfectly valid point we're defending somebody who was actually wronged, and that is a terrific position to be in because the left has been very clever and they go after people on the other boys, they prove your point do because they they expect not that they're gonna Carter after Concentration Camp, but they dehumanized or by by labeling or anti semite by lying about our Sanger saying that she was was, you know, advising people based on race and ethnicity? That's just flatly raw They know that the line, but they figure, while she

serves to be lied about into be slandered because she's wrong about all these other living. Well is very sensitive aspects of this that I want to talk about actual when I talk about holocaust comparisons generally, and I want to talk about what it means that they cancelled someone on the basis of nothing. But first I am I talking about our friends over at express european meat fish. Just one question: why haven't you got Nepeian yet raising german I'll tell you, there's never been a more important time to protect her digital rights. That's why I m. Thousands of my listeners, joking thousands events, appears to secure our online data by using Express BP. It did you maybe believe, a bp, and as for you, because you can

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what is most chilling to me. We all support the American free speech. Tradition in this room left does not. We all support it, but we all think they're. There are some things that, if you know, if you walk up to, water, cooler and you say, zig high or you know you do so- either lose your job. I dont think you should be allowed to keep your movie or whatever. I think there are some things that are out of bounds. There always things around about. With this woman did with make an absolutely mainstream opinion we all everybody left, right and centre would have agreed on even five or six years ago, but now

so all move the goalposts in this country that, if you, if you have an american flag outside your house, you could be spent on actually not sure that this is right. I think that she was cancelled for nothing, because it was nothing. I think that we are living through a change in what Hansel culture is and what the woke mob once, but it's no longer about enforcing their rules. I think that it's it's like the great terror. I think that's just the imposition yes, yes, I think that the arbitrariness of it the random. The substance is actually part of the terror that they can take down Gina for nothing. Then they can take down you for what you see this happen. Oiling the rules are changing. Every single bright I mean they're changing every single day and things that are overtly non. Racist are now being treated as racists and you have done Macneil losing its job at the New York Times. for using the Edward you described by using the Edward, is wrong right and in which the Croatians using the inward is wrong. You, the guy it's late? My pascal ray we're, not big Francis laid over your slate fired a guy, for

saying that maybe we should have a discussion about when use of the inward is appropriate in like, for example, quoting someone who used the inward and they will end it's like not can have that they. They laid my Prescott off the thing, the most ridiculous example of somebody being cancelled for non racism that I've seen in the recent past is not really Jeanne, although that was ridiculous. I think that is what of course Harrison over the bachelor. No, I'm not I'm not a fan of the bachelor, because I'm a man testosterone. It runs in my body, but there that this is one thing. Cultural institutions of the United States over the last twenty five years? Right I mean it's been going since two thousand too, it has been. The bachelor has been on the air for a majority of my lifetime on this planet right, it's been on for ever get right. In the end, the actual are basically just collapsed over the course of last month, because there is aid for the first, like bachelor, and he was dating one woman. There was a woman and Rachel Carcano when she committee the heinous in oven, two thousand eighteen going to a party,

plantation that was dubbed a plantation party or something into warlike, scarlet o Hara prosperity bonanza Bell embargo. Ok, idea was that this was racist, because you can't have an Anti Balin party without acknowledging the sins of slavery, which again I just hate it, This was governor, rigid lowrider many current recipes for everyone rabbit, but I hated noticed everybody, but if you were a cost from virtually any historic period prior to eighteen, twenty that culture had slavery. Let's break me like if you dressed up as a Viking there. There were slavery act then, if it recipes a Roman there's lots of slavery back then, in any case, the idea was that she was a racist for having gone to this party in two thousand eighteen, so that the bachelor who oil are alert for women who are still watching bachelor it's out of the bag. Now he ended up picking this woman. Rachel Croquant is the woman. He ended up picking at the end of the bachelor, and so he put out a statement on February third in which he said note. She should be given a little, but a great social mediation be going after her. They ve been beating up her parents. Voting record, like give a break and secretariat. the host was on a shelf

Rachel Linsey Former hosted the base. Is there the bachelor adverse my bachelor out. I think I and she was interviewing him increased you should give her a little at a great rate, socially can be judged rate executioner. People should be treated with a little bit of integration, can explain herself and Rachel Linsey thence, Chris Harrison for saying she deserved grace ought to apologize. Essentially lose his job and then a couple of weeks later, like just this week, James, who originally had defended Rachel Carcano and was dating Rachel Carcano. You protest over the last twenty four hours saying that Rachel Carcano was essentially a racist across Harrison was a racist, but the bachelor was racist and that it was it was unthinkable to Chris Harrison could have settled, said in front of Rachel lit Rachel Linsey, who then was forced to do- and I quote the emotional labour emotional labor of explaining to him the history, of racism in slavery in this country, emotional, labour principle. What what is it labour I've got an actual physical Abraham. I ve done it several times. It's it's much. The same came and make this joke. It is,

However, the top like they're still cut him had been going to be at me, but I will say this: the fact that he used the term emotional labour is proof that they got yeah that Israel human Being walks around with the term emotional labour, not in their frontal, big network. What does that mean that somebody came a set him down and said? Listen the girl, You ve been dating and obviously like she doesn't matter the show. That's the only reason you have a platform at all that doesn't matter the only thing that matters if you want to keep have. If you want to keep your house and your career and you're good name the chief Freakin get out there and walk the line that rail and any that mean that led the utter cowardice of throwing under the bus, the girl, you are, yeah right in calling for racist and then seeing the guy who said exactly what you said exactly what you said within days back as racists, but you you're, you're, perfect right, you're, perfect, but that's amazing, which brought about by just have to add the captured this so that again, producers who the owner is, I know about the bachelors cause. I have two bruisers. Yes,

email and inform you about the tv, remote wine producers, and producer the guy. I will say that they keep me updated on the stuff on a granular level. I end, and they made me aware of a post from Rachel Linsey that happened the middle of a blacklist matter movement in the summer, and this post was a picture Rachel Lindsey standing. I could you not in front of a Cadillac extra sex and the post. eyes when I am fighting, I may have a black lives matter. The way that I like to learn about- Black history is through podcast about black for that. I listened to my bows sound system in my cataloging equity Us capital is number one always wins. The number two like this is the person was standing up against the racism and of the capitalist evil. American system is the person issuing emotional labour, emotional labour, you're standing in front of a Cadillac extra six in a sponsor an autograph preach about black lives, better you're, the person who is supposed to be the great pope of woken,

Here I mean it's insanity, not areas. We would lose what a griffin it all Iraqis, your fifteen years go. You were taught discussing an academic context. The EU, the inward and now you're fired, but if you're What mom wants your kid to go to school? That can't happen because teachers, unions, keeping you out, you know if bill gates, literally put out a system for teaching algebra the black kids, where you got rid of the concept of right. I'm just like that. There may be an alarm God I'm gonna want that's one of the most recent and switch all Griff. You know it's all. Nobody doing anything for anybody, but this emotional panic then the corporations are wanting. America is void, Amerika. What it is I mean this is: what shall be seal writes about its about woke Whitefield. You get to maintain control over the auspices of power by Saint black folks. Don't have to do. The work is our job to do the work.

Let us give made our right. I can and all other things, but exactly and corporate America's bought into this- that that that Dicky s, anti racism, training, the Coca COLA, resign, album local without notice and you're sure yeah yeah and that's why we stipulate, I think with with cancel culture, that it is left wing phenomenon. This is, I know, on the less. They always want to accuse the right of all you're doing cancer culture because we critic someone for having you know it further opinion, but you know how people left say that Only white people can be racist because we have an institutional power and black people die Well, that's totally bogus because number one, Racism is a condition of a heart. Anyone can be raises another to wait. A black president. I can it had to be institutional power, but with would cancel culture that action. Is about institutional power. cancel someone was you own? The institutions, cancelling someone is all about. They lose their they lose the reputation they our credibility to lose everything

we on the right, unfortunately, don't have the ability to do that. Only the left can do that, so the less so cancel culture is a left. Wing thing is what the left does and I think we need to be we're about that in our definition of it, because that's that's what I think it is the lack of course, America into. Welcome is one of the great disturbing elements of the last several decades. It really is amazing. well taught that every leave college you're gonna get in the real world and then the real world the beam top foresee and men of the of the kind of emotional crafting learning college in the micro aggression, nonsense. All that was gonna, stop and turns out those people just took over the institutions and You got it twice as hard from the corporations and the corporations have a real interest in from the staff because number one it's a great way to avoid liability, crimination liability say: oh, you know what we hire Robin the actual for twenty grand should teach all of our Although the racists I mean, how can you see us for that, and also all your woke staffers are the ones from likely to see you. So if you just given to them, then they won't soon. As anyone sued, yellow we're waiting for a white, a grip,

at a point right now. These corporations, where they actually single out they say this- is only for the white employees. Come to the room and we're gonna tell you what a scumbag you are has any whiting the actually stood up and said this is raising the rat handed button. It will look at what happens when you do. You know when, when asian student sued harbour, I wasn't white student right suing about the form of action policies it was. Asian students were also disadvantage. The Asian, didn't so what happens? Doesn't go and where the d o J under Trump looks into Yale for doing exactly the same thing: you're disadvantaging white nation students and applications. What happens the bite administration get rid of it. So you know if, if I'm a white employee and I'm being cold, be less white and I think I'm pretty swarthy a much less twice and I get if I'm thinking about suing. I look at the track record of of these laws, So I say what: why would always my money goes out of. You know that I now that goes back and await them, but stroke withdrew

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go to the post office again and just enjoy being you for a minute. That is the first time. I've ever heard. The term Jolla Polloi in advertisements will first like I was acting in a stop. You that's the best address you ve ever had not just us professionally. Let me just say your skill set has grown fair me. I mean like I've, really just real bad address. Informal really terrible wondering about TAT was an excellent, who is a really great sag way and then a really made a personal animated about you, you're a good time at innovative worthy, actually tell us where we live with the fact that you are talking about you, that's what I am a glow comes over immediately. This really impressive. There there's one note that I want to make it as far as the fact that can Nation is a left wing phenomenon and it is because it is connected institutional power. Occasionally you will see should have a right wing. insulation efforts. If, for example, there was some talk about in college, removing college scholarships from I'm kids wanting you from the national anthem, we're something like I'm not notwithstanding that sort of thing, but the there is is not just that it's a left wing phenomena it's that is a left wing mindset

Are there there's natural mindset of cancellation that exists in a study that I was looking at the other day that it's just that in a truly amazing study, is Cordin, Harvard Business Review. What they did is they. They took a panel of people of war a variety of political opinion, went all the way rights left and then they offered them model corporation is like jobs corporation or something and what they told them is that they they even three examples. One jobs corporations apolitical: how do you feel about it really go cantons? Nice corporation second, was jobs, corporations liberal? How do you feel about it What does it most corporation and then they said jobs. Cooperation is conservative. It rapid thirty three point in the approval ratings. Thirty three points entirely because the left decided that was known, evil, business breaks or in other words people people assume the corporate Amerika Liberal, these human rights first, there is also the same. That's why a practical and liberal end up with the same result. It also shows you the right does not care. The right is happy to shop. Wherever there is a good product, the left does care the left ones. That work is confused and everything. Well, there is good news for us

in this address, you may have noticed, which is that fine, you want to do this, one, a boycott, any business, that's conservative, there's half the country, it believes They should be able to shop at businesses that are not going to stop this garbage down their throats and we are happy to start each and every one of those businesses and waken the dough better I drew this is where the worst, I think, has lost their mind. Ill liberalism is nothing new right. There always there's always been a streak of liberalism even on the right and the left just is now illiberal. But if you go back to the sixties, he'll liberals on the right would like burn beetles, albums and you're. I'm sorry. The Beatles were banned, they never got successful, because all these illiberal conservatives burn their record whenever you, of course, that's not how it works. There's a there's going to be a reaction against this idea of cancel culture that is going to make us more powerful to quote well

the evil empire, the more they tightened their star systems will slip through their fingers ass, the opportunities they have given us. I think it's bad for the world that the left is creating a door culture and it is bad for the world that the left is creating a dull economy, but I also think that, to the extent that they had almost unchecked power in the dominant culture and in the dominant economy, only the creation now of the dual economy gives us they have the opportunity to maybe one day make a bet. our economy and a better culture that one day has a chance of being DOM, and you know this ties in to your point on the arbitrariness of it, because I I I think it's arbitrary when they say they have room, And they make up the rules on the spot and rules change day by day, and they can't see you for whatever. But what is not arbitrary is the people that their cancelling the people there cancelling tend to hold views very similar to what we think. If you are, anyway, contradicting the left wing orthodoxy. You are liable to be, can

and now make up some fake rule is exactly right. It's it's all its I'll, protect your did their doing all of this, on the basis of who do we want to cancel, and then how do we fit them into the box of separate, but eurasian? Actually ocean speaking to my son, Spencer, Clave and no relation today, and he and he makes the brilliant point as he so frequently does. but this is an almost exact analogue in the inquisition, in that nobody is They don't know about that. I did not know that being said, the catholic Church in the inquisition. We have this new technology, which is a printing brush. How wonderful it spreads information? can now read the Bible you can. I have your own Bible is so it's a wonderful, wonderful thing, but it spreading some bad information as well, and those people have to be burned at the stake and and put on the rock basically that

water terms of it was bad will know all about. I am all in favour. Hunt was so far have been windows ago. Wrote that between the twitter terms of service are the same thing. We have this wonderful internet is spreading information, but is bad information and those people have burned at stake and put on her- and I know you guys were favourable terms. This is right about how democratic letter read. Those two has Democrats, who s letter just how asked in eighteen, opium and Amazon every major carrier the country about info the Tory language and inciting language, they broaden the definition of inflammatory inciting to anything they disagree with, and then the idea is they're gonna cudgel corporations and doing their work, which, by the way, does violate the first Mehmet you're not allowed to make private corporations. The agencies of the government for purposes of caution. The first moment there's case law on us, but they're, trying it anyway- and this is This is what they're doing I mean. Did you see what Amazon is doing this week saw my goodness the hate speech standard? Hates me, although not with Ryan T Anderson, whose pal over some of us in this room ahead of the ethics and public policy centre, is inherited.

I'm really at Heritage Foundation, disguised as main stream and scholarly a conservative as it gets, and he came out a few years ago, greatest book title I've ever heard when Harry Beak, I'm sorry for responding to the transgender, really good book to imitate is really good book and it's actually not in any way an inflammatory bad way to sensitive, but the very he has a bunch of stuff in their about how people who are suffering from gender. This warrior ought to be treated humanely and there is no excuse for treating people badly. It means a bunch of stuff in there that is it that is directly a rebuttal to sort of this industrial and money laundering in Europe. Andrews pushing doesnt show that, of course, is not for nothing worse. There is not even mission, but what Amazon had done they had taken off. You know if the confederate flag was really politically correct. They took that offline or sometimes different, symbols that take data, but they had to stand this. It we're not gonna remove books for being politically incorrect because they don't want to be seen burning box or banning books as it is over the inquisition very quietly. They took away that exception and now

we might mean all headway on. My comp is still on on Amazon. Arraign Anderson's book is not an Amazon couldn't believe you know like. I got into a brief. I never do this, but I did get into a brief twitter debate with our friend David French, who basically feels there should be no recourse because of the first amendment. There should be no recourse when private entities Court Multi National, richer than most two thirds of governments have more money than two thirds of the government collude together to essentially got our rights, and my feeling is wait if the point of the first amendment is to protect, our rights are white, still go away, because the first amendment makes it difficult to cover a threat to them, but the threat to our rights right now is in this collusion between companies that may not be monopolies in and of but when they collude, they become essentially monopolies, working in collusion with the government as well. Think attack big government, big business, big big big- if that, if that is not a threat that needs to be dealt with- and I don't

I am not a lawyer. I don't care how you do it, but it's got to be dealt with. You cannot have a system where, whereby we cannot attack the threats to our speech about speeches given of flat with the right to speeches given to us by God. So that's the problem on the right you ve gotta least, half that are that are allergic to using the power the government, whereas on the left there is wide agreement. Of course it is about the government to do whatever we want and I on the right at least there's a there is a debate about it, but it seems There are some a wide, pretty large, significant preponderance. That basically that I want to use by the government to do anything at all, and, and I think that that kneecaps us our order is martinis the Cairo government, theirs it and there's a stupid. Of course. I end and I think that a lot of people are not distinguishing between the two. Until you end up with a really dumb kind of version of the argument which, as we can nothing or we're going to be set up. and just to hold them more exactly what they ought to do in all circumstances,

The reality is that what is really happening? This goes back to the section two thirty argument, especially when it comes to these platforms, is that what sex two thirty was designed to do? Was it was designed to in flying the ability for corporations to actually protect free speech. It was not the opposite. What the what second? Who thirty was? Was it but just to get into a little bit of of legalism here, because people dont understand section, two thirty, particularly while section two thirty doesn't make sanctions in publishers and platforms such Thirty says we have an open thread, then you are not responsible legally for what appears in an open thread, so wire, is private corporation were responsible for what we put up its edited, but our comments were not responsible for so many puts up DR material newcomers- we're not legally responsible for that, and so that was an idea, here was to allow platforms to exist is otherwise platforms literally, would not exist. So what section two thirty did is aided an exception. The exception was specifically designed to allow platforms to get rid of material. That was pretty much widely agreed to be excessive. So so we post pornography in our seas and our conversation,

We can remove that so impose some seventy or actual incitement to violence. We can remove all of that. Instead, what has happened is, as so often happens with the government. The exception became the rule. So then it became the government is going to tell corporations that if they don't use section two thirty to crack down on all the material government doesn't like then they're gonna come after those corporations. So the exception to the rule so that exception was designed to be an exception right dead users can be a broad spectrum of ideas that are available, and only here- and there were you going to kind of pinpoint in raw material that was truly offensive, truly terrible and instead to re, truly inclusive right regularly. The communications decency act is what exactly are truly indecent. Instead, what happened is that the left basically seized upon this opportunity to say: ok well now what these platforms really should do is they should act just like a publisher? They should at all,

concentrations have which books they are willing to put out which books they're not going to put up. Not only that women have congressional hearings and we're going to say let S Diane Feinstein says: if you don't do what we want you to do, we will regulate you into doing what we want you to do. So if you actually want to fix this, there's a good proposal on the table from Arthur Blackburn, our centre, herons Hennessy too, to take away the catch all provision of sex thirty is originally section. Two thirty says that allows you to remove, that's obscene content, that is, that is incitement to violence. Content that normally be illegal right, like that kind of stuff, but there is also hence our provision is as or anything otherwise objectionable, and so what her builder It takes away the otherwise objectionable language. So now you cannot relieved of liability. If you, if you just stop Willy nilly taken down stuff- and I think that that Probably the rim of the universe is funny how people are blind to the fact that the enemy is or is always pools of power power corrupts absolute power corrupts absolutely so. The left has this idea that the state is going to come in and make everything great

It doesn't understand that the state has a bunch of people with power, and the right has this idea that big business is always gonna, be ok but biggest it also people with power left used to know this left used to know it. Corporations can be alternative. Governments that have the power of governments can and can threaten you. You know anybody with power. Anybody with power has to be controlled, as is simply that, because people were trying to protect or the ordinary guys, a little guys who have the right to speak out just a fine power, although more specifically now, which is it's not about the bigness, it's about the actual power to compel etc. Why? Because you know that the problem is not big business. The promise big business working in collusion with government in order to restrict your rights. That's right! That's the stuff! It's actually dangerous, because what we tend to do. When rescinded issue, which I got big government for small government. The question is in big government, for small government is what is it? What are the delegated powers of governments limited war? They tell anybody, that's right and is it is it there? There are specific purposes, the same things for a business. The question isn't big business or small business? Is business acting in favour of free markets and free labour, or is business acting against

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Now you have that all wrong. I like Ben, you signs my paycheck. That's Michael knows that include the fact that better use their happy birthday lightweight users, we should propose. We can't be boy and girl Thank you very much. I wish I'd thirty five now my husband decides pregnant me again with another gorgeous child. I've been considered a geriatric pregnancy with justice. Really depressing things are the birthday which it there's a lot of lively chatter. Over on the chair box, and if you like, more hey, wait a second, I want to chat with the on the check box. Will how do I do that? I asked the guy's a question. Will then that means you already have. an answer: you're, not a daily wire subscriber. You should have gone over the daily wire dot com, slash, subscribe and be sure to use the code. A bends new show debunked which comes out this February. Twenty six will be sure to take a lesson. Debunked will get you twice

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I had been giving making this noise, but I want to learn the banjo and she bought it. For me, What that meant was that for the night and really for the last ten years it just sits there and shoulders periodically says that you never learn a banjo did you did learn and how many other instruments do play. Has people one from option here. I don't play all on very good at not learning that everyone editor is good at every instrument, as you are well able to have the way completely silent, but are met, and I were outside an hour. The conversation turned to the full masculinity of the shots and and we decided to create a masculinity ranking house on the show. Ok- and I haven't- I believe it has- it has a it has, but one standard how many children have you sire by this ranking then me a new right. and then you and then you why died from wasting our eye. I what I was going without their bench, apparel surrounded the manliest

are the daily, what were the least that its economic data is? It's been adamant, lumberjack any has like eighty three children. I hear me and I are the least toxic people, her entire room, I didn't know so well. You're forces with the first two are twins I was gonna, do for one deal with the same number pregnancies, that's right, but I'll happily take. I think the beard dismay. The typewriter actually say, though, that I think one of the things that matters is, can you chain tyre me, we're, probably still tied for guy, would say that Rapid Europe. Finally, I think that I have to talk only can change at all, but have changed many tyres, frequently rain, so freeways. Why didn't I have for black it was before you had trouble popper it. No unanimity voting on your own tyres. Anyone what our ongoing in Ireland there are many it's got towards their thorough changing. I actually like a dream. Assuming you have you ever tasted higher, be honest,

I see me, I retain a bit. I changed attire once I was visiting Eliah before I live there and I was too cheap to get a good rental car. So I did a rent the wreck. I was driving a ninety one Plymouth breeze around. You know I will tell you that I go in. I figured out how to do it, it was the manliest I've ever known by the way, there's a much higher chance that Alisha has changed it higher than it was just a voluntary. So I will say that I had a blow out this weekend and I d, I grew up in rural tests has changed a lot of tyres I used to be when I was a you'd. I would like stop and help other people change there. And they're gonna set of rights, he might the thing to do, but I ve become soft, and I was DR. We had this huge snowstorm ass did mean up almost the entire system. the south of the country that at last we have lower demand it wreath like hell on the road, Syria, rightly all the freezing, all the ice,

my wife and my baby, and I we rented a little Tesla. I thought maybe be found to have a test that you must get cooler than me. So I rented this model three from a great family. It was cool, pulled up to get this teslas really cold. Outside I get out of the upper I'm walking up this young seventeen year old. Kid comes out of this house and I said: hey man good, to meet you as well as recalled to meet you I said: get em germs Yes, you have again. No that's like. Oh, we live in a town were famous. We have refused to living in a place where people either didn't know who you were recorded in how we live somewhere, where people are kind do like us up as our religious tests from this gets. I drive at home and park it in there in the garage and then it dumps like twelve thousand pounds of snow and I didn't get to drive the car for with the final but one day left on the run on Saturday and I jump in the car. I want to see if the baby Cedar Fit, throw the baby seat in the back would go for a ride

I promptly hit one of these new found potholes at full, freeway speed and not the tire off the ram. Oh, my god, the Good NEWS is in a crisis with my wife and my child in the car, was able to figure out how to call roadside. It is good that is able to get on the phone. They told me if they would be there in four hours, o, apparently a lot of people broken down on the side of the road. The lessons learnt its lesson and I got a flat tire which now I don't know about. Five. Six years ago I was in the very expensive, Bmw and I was out in the middle of nowhere- found a thousand coyotes literally coyotes were circling around me and I thought well. I nodded change attire and I took out the jack from this very expensive. Bmw opened it up and it cracked in half my hands, and I thought I guess people to intrude up By the way I mean being as close to death is your mother that would have been like the coolest what'd. I do

clearly all that they are on the side of the road and you're getting on european data. That would mean the headline I was sitting on their entry Andrews there ever I only around one got at your age. Is there ever a timely Cairo? These aren't circling voluntarism, notion of the Balkans travelling with little. They should be your baby. My fears ilusha that all those stories,

revealed that I was more manly than Ben at my most pregnant with my child, because I put a spare tyres on my family wagon, but because there was also a four hour way, even though I did not get a blizzard. So gay than usual, only reiterate very wealthy could point out. The next budget goes, the God king Jeremy boring these. This subscriber must not know about daily wire to because they want to know if the daily why're, you know it's entering into entertainment. You know you're expanding all the shows you bring on new talent, you're writing in scripting movies. They will know about sports as you They obviously have a big fan of the daily while for long because we do very intensive sports coverage, every three three everything ours for the World CUP and where the World CUP happened tonight not be bothered to no yeah, we do the daily wire to coverage of the event Michael and I,

I've been covering a very well low these many years other than that. they talk about real sports. If people are interested in that aren't anti american and that should be played by a first world country. I think it's a great idea, We have talked about it? I think a lot of fun to create a deeper collaboration with our friends over it. I'll kick that they have a great attitude there. Absolutely hilarious clay, Travis Kind of a hero he's right here in Nashville a you know. We could give you, but if you, soccer. No, no, we couldn't. We could call it daily wire, three weakest we can t we can keep daily wire tube and we can put the report's others days of our wine year, which is part of our daily wire three, which is sport year and then who uttered too for that other things been discredited

every at every four years thing. The next question is for drew, drew people want to know what projects are you working on now? Do you have a little more free time, since you don't have your daily show and, more importantly, are there any people that will work with you? In Hollywood, since you're very open conservative new but I am as busy as I've ever been swaying understand that coffin, really my family look often forgotten you gotta be ready at any minute, but no, I'm is busy, as I've ever been, I just sold I'm so delighted that I just sold to Thomas Nelson, the Christian publishes whoop my memoir. I sold my essentially the sequel to my memoir witches but literature and the gospel. Does it have a better title, as we know, is called the truth and beauty you'll be so much better. It was called yet another thing-

I thought about it. I am writing you know. I guess I just you know that the letter I just finished a draft of the script we're going to do here. I hope and another project script and a new series of mystery novels. Coming, that's why I'm is busy as I have ever been, and it's only is only because of my hatred for knowledge will have come here at all. That's like and its ultimate, let's get, because when it, when you play there'll, be just this whole trunkful, unfinished man out than one by one. Did you take insurance on me? That's always retaining its dark. We are talking about scrap Ben everyone in the chat wants to know, have you seen escort for genus movie? What will it be about, and when is it coming out to ensure that this question is better directed. Jeremy, so

I will say that there are active in ongoing talks about what exactly the script should be. I know the journey is waiting through script right now, looking for the right project, but because it is, it the process and because working on a very personal level with Gina, we'll take it all over the time for us to find exactly what we want to do. I think it's important for people understand that Gina article Gina once in building this next nature for careers, not just be an actress for higher, but to be a producer as she wants the ability to actually help craft. The story to put her mark on whatever her next project is We're working once again with our friends over a bonfire legend, Dallas Dallas on Yea is going to produce genus film he's. He read sixty scripts over the weekend, I looked at him, he's a shell of a man. He couldn't tell you about any of that mobility which wanted you like Russia, where there's a western and Aspasia. Ok, you get some sleep, the thin made of fifteen or sixteen best group which he has done and were, and we're working are withdrawn.

Way tat. He should fire me for this two weeks. I've got a great idea, everybody- is not working on better luck or we're learning from Europe. He's, never gonna, retired Della retired, lined up in that trunk eaten by coyotes something of an abstruse enjoy better next question: Floodwater God King answered that God King answered that Lapland so banal Tacitus. One of you is a very good question who somebody wants to know. Hey I become a day we were subscriber, but what are you doing to protect yourself against big tech, as we saw with parlor conservative sites that are just shot down because people Google and Amazon say hey we're not. I can allow you on our servers. Have you guys protected the daily wire and the subscribers again? Something. that so we definitely have been working on figuring out alternative platforms that we could shift over two in case some Amazon Web Services, what they did a far lower happens to us, was expended enormous time and energy and money on exactly the sort of question again are minimised, eminent redirect the core

in two Jeremy, because it for people to understand how the daily works. Basically, all business questions go here. And all ideological questions, though here and all questions about

Darcy go there all questions about not paying bills. Go there all questions about just general, Malays and cynicism. Go there, isn't that that obviously the brakes? If you want somebody's nicer than relations here to penetrate I'll say that has been said here, we ve spent a lot of time into this question. Since what happened to parlor took place. The truth is, the problem is greater than any company is going to be able to answer. You know: Amazon Web services controls. The servers for fifty percent of the entire world wide web is an unbelievable amount of infrastructure. So, and people like want you build your own service would be like if, in in nineteen, eighty to the telephone companies had gotten involved in censorship, and somebody said, but why don't you just build your own phone Cumbria and my answer me? Ok, it took one hundred years to run phone lines to every rural household across a content

that's what you're talking about and what, if we build all these servers, we will raise a hundred billion dollars or a trillion dollars to build the kind of infrastructure on the server side that you need and then Amazon never actually acts against another conservative better, but the highest p providers do like the problem that faces conservatives is so vast and to take on any part of it would take the wealth of a small nation to try to conquer, and then that may not be the attack factor there like a hundred attack vectors that need to be solved. So what I really believe needs to happen here is several things.

One, and we need not to reinvent all of this, but to diversify our reliance on any one platform. Soda bins. Point we're looking at other potential data facilities, some that you might be able to put yourself on some that you might be able to actually use is almost a shadow server or were constantly being updated on a backup servant. If something happens, you can very quickly and seamlessly move your stuff over very expensive, not as expensive as building Amazon web services. But more than that. I think what needs to happen is conservative millionaires and billionaires need to change the way that they think about technology. There's a reason that Amazon can kick you off. It's that conservatives have no power at Amazon. There's a recent facebook and take you off. Conservatives have no or very little power at Facebook. There's a reason twitter can treat you the way they do you. You don't have a problem of conservatives being run.

their homes. Conservatives are great at real estate. You don't have a problem of conservative running out a gas conservatives are graded energy there's just these different spheres that draw people with different mentalities, and I think the proof that conservative dont have the mentality necessary to solve this problem is actually in the question. Are we building our own servers? The answer to the problems of by four Katy use of technology is not that we build what they currently have their conversations happening all over the world right

now in real time that make servers obsolete, serve people talking about watch chain, their people talk about things beyond blockchain, the names of which I dont know their kids with backpacks, going to left wing, billionaires and left wing, venture capital funds and left wing angel investors and creating the future and we're not a part of those conversations either and the answer that how do you? How do you solve the problem of it took a century to build all those phone lines? Isn't it don't try to replicate that its to invent the cell phone and until we change our mentality, we're just gonna lose on whatever the next thing is to whatever the next thing is working to build some crappy alternate version of what they ve already got, and it's not it's just going to further ghetto eyes, as we have completely changed the way we think about, and to ask a follow up question to lose out because with the things that is very frustrating to me. Is that concern of seem very, very reluctant to think that there may be legal remedies here, but it does seem that at some

point: this is a new technology and the new techniques, we need new law and it needs new law to make sure that all of us have a chance to speak. If this is the way we speak to one another, and it is, we should be able to speak to one another, no matter what our political beliefs are and so isn't isn't there some place for law, when they took the lobbying in which things are then let the lawyer talk though the first one is. Conservatives need to embrace law fair, its deviant distasteful, its Well, it's against our great and no. We actually need to embrace it, because those are the weapons that are used ass, the battles, but but I also say this one: one reason that the daily wire we're not safe, but we are far less likely to be kicked off of servers then is parlor. It's because parlor wasn't conducting any actual.

Comic activity- or yours is a free platform in everybody's using is using it for free. They don't have a vast, add network. If, if some big tech company were to knock the daily wire off of their servers because of speech or something like that, we have. over a hundred employees. We do millions and millions of dollars worth of business. We have to of millions of fans, we have ads on our website everyday, doing new hundreds of thousands of micro transactions. That goes all the way to the Supreme Court. There's actual damages in wanting to have one thing to have to keep in mind when you talk about the law is the concept of damages and the damages are just fundamentally different where we are concerned. This is why it happens. It makes us it's a sorry state of affairs, but they're not unsophisticated, about with a tart,

yeah. I mean that a target people who have the weakest opportunity to challenge them- and this is one of those areas. Where are your certain season state action around the scientists who talked about going after the tech companies and making it so they can't do this sort of stuff is extending anti discrimination law toward politics in the arena of technology, particularly free speech platform. and it seems to me that if we ve restricted freedom of association so strongly in this country that we already have anti discrimination law. That applies to every single element of american life, except for your politics right you can't. You can't discriminates against women on the basis of religion, sex, age, disability, anything and nobody is in favour of that sort of discrimination. But it used to be that freedom of Association meant these sort of how to deal with the fact that sometimes people than one hang out with you, but the left is completely made that obsolete. Where you have to hang out. Nevertheless, as you have to hang out with enough to do business with whoever the left, as you have to do, business with, I think there can be a strong move made, particularly in red states. Again. These corporations, saying if you guys start booting people, then we are going to take legal action against you.

wonder violated our state law is their account? Is there a concern that can no longer have any illogical organizations for young about that. The daily wire would have to have to hire left wing activists to be employed to create actual legal carve out, you'd have to say, if you're in overtly partisan organisation, then can do this in the same way that their religious carve out for Anti discrimination law, rightly you'd, have to do that for overall political organisations would pose a problem for five warranty threes, particularly there a lot of political five once he threes that have a conservative or liberal bent and because their non profit, they can't be overly associated with a party or not associate with a party and so could get very muddy fasten. Listen in my preferred world as much as eight discrimination. I hate crackdown freedom of association. More in some way as much as I hate vile speech, I hate cracking down on free speech more, but it's Gotcha may have already sailed. So as long as that Europe is already sailed, then the only alternative, if there's gonna be an extension of anti discrimination law in the field of politics? Our existing place, like our fortyish, has never been enforced really and that this

such an important key, as we can say what we don't like this. I really wish we lived in a different world but, as you say, Jeremy, we ve got to play with what we ve got. You know politics involves eternal principles. It also involves applying those principles to real circumstances that are all always changing, and if we want to survive, if we want to be about this. Then you ve, gotta, you ve gotta, play the game and there's a difference between using the weapons that are the weapons of the battlefield, and using the logic that they use. I'd, always right, It is ironic degrades is what we always had about mutually assured destruction. Wherever we launch truth revolt, we said we hate the tax there were about to use or as soon as you gotta stop using them will stop using road. Right right and I think that's accurate as far as a lot of these things, which, as you know, that there is only one thing that is worse than having a nuclear weapon in that everybody else haven't, why did you not having one right and that's why you always bothers me? We play this hypocrisy game with the left, which I think is actually destructive. So the left says you know, you said it was a dark day when Obama was elected, dark means that you didn't like the color of their skin. You think, like that's not

Well, but you said this, which is accepting. There firms about an I don't I don't agree with us at all. I am I I'm really offended by the racial pathology of the left. I think it is. I think it is a reference to the human condition. I think that the two to treat people according to the color of their skin. Is a war and I think it's wrong, no matter what color their skin is. I don't care if their epic hypocrites about it, wanted to stop. I want to say that no, you know if you are a black guy who did a bad thing. You did a bad thing, you're awake, I did a bad thing. You did a bad thing. I don't care, I'm taking people as they come, and the idea now that the their showing to us that anti that being a non,

this is racist. Now is: isn't she right? You can't you camping in recent years, the show, either by tree the racist or anti racist there's. No third category called non race. That's so that's why? I think that's why I think cancel cultural so dangerous, because what does makes people afraid to say your entire premises, wrong. The other visits proper visit. This is the biggest thing. I think that when we, when we talk about cancer culture, its easy to point to the big circumstances of council culture like for terrorists or or Gina, but the reality, The people at affects most are the people who are the low level employs a Disney, that's right because they the people. In fact, most are not people like the people sitting in this room who talk for a living right or or Jabez, at a high level in politics, the people it affects them, the people who work for Coca COLA and who make forty, five thousand dollars a year and don't have the labour. We need to be able to move over to Pepsi, especially perhaps he is eating the exact same kind of stuff. What cancel culture is about, intimidating everybody into silence is not even about cancelling. Anybody is about putting a head on a pike.

And the more heads you put on plagues more people are scared to speak out and they know that, which is why they're gonna keep putting heads on pipes. In fact, it is imperative that they keep putting heads on pikes, because the minute the heads on the pike stop somebody may push back against their and that's? Why I get so. I guess so disgusted, I'm almost at the point with cancel culture when it were high profile person. That's cancelled and they start apologizing, corcyra ripe, agree I'm at the point where I despise you more right for apologizing, but I do that I do despise the mob for cancer. the first, but like research and such a perfect example We did have eventually in that interview that we had Siberia. We really talk about. He was he was so circuitous in in standing up to. He couldn't have been less aggressive and what he said and he kept on delaying tactic of reiterating that, well, I'm not defending her, and I don't really know and she might be a racist, but look guys, maybe just me,

Maybe we shouldn't be destroying people's lives over this and they stuck answer. Anyway, and that what is it doing? It falls to us to his knees, an apology this admits You see, I M a racist accepts their Dracula guess, I'm even though, is not arises. If you do that, then you're, just as as there are also all the other. The smaller people of your talking about you dont have this kind of platform. Your throat under the bus till you you're just as bad as them you're actually worse, because you're you're you're, you got all of their vices and care. But they're, not our living. There is that's right. That's why I just want to say that the the genre of the public apology, yeah, has to go away. Even if what you did was wrong. Now There's this case all these other cases Junot Toronto. I didn't do anything wrong, but even did something wrong and the Catholic Authorised,

We have a great example of eel: don't apologize for organ wall when I don't have the extract the story of my the biggest country stars. So, yes, you naturally did has a new album out fantastic he's a bit of a hell razor. Probably not our kind of guy he gets home from along at a party and is not being very good neighbour. He gets out of a couple pickup trucks in front of his house, some of his buddies What's on the horn, one thirty in the morning or something in a dick and zionist some of his buddies any uses. A series of jocular pejorative to describe his buddies. None of rubbish is remembered, his actual brands, but none of which can be set on the ship. He calls them. Member oops in Ankara Sandy, I arrive puppy breath Oliver, then his neighbour, with probably rightfully ticked off at the guy. It's one thirty in the morning you trying to sleep apparently on their security, can

are there. The doorbell camera at the next morning realises that you can hear him using these words against his friends and one of them is that one word, I heard that no one in America is allowed to say, except for all of Hollywood children at church, if you're a particular rights ia and so for this total soviet style erase eraser. He is draw buyers label, he is dropped by, but his saunter. Climbing the charge she strawberries label, these dropped by both of the major radio entities in the country who collectively on all of the radio stations, he's drop by his look. Legit musical words took em off the country, musical words disqualifies him the AIDS it ever made his qualifies him. He he said something distasteful. He said several distasteful. He said one thing that we as a society know there are special

around, I actually don't accept those rule. I don't agree with those rules, but there's no denying the existence of growth roles are. Nevertheless, he said it in a non racial context to his friends. Privately, it was captured essentially by a disgruntled boy arrested neighbour, and for this we ve raised him from from civilization. He didn't do anything wrong. He did do something gross. He didn't do anything wrong. He did not do anything racist. The apology that he put out to the people who have destroyed his life on the basis of nothing grants them right, ransom their premise: will they give him his car? you're back. Of course, they're not going to give him his poor back, but there's no redemption saluted if you think about the asymmetry here for a second to, because when you say he didn't do anything wrong well, you did

something wrong. You came on, lady will get areas used. Jerky knows it is using words you shouldn't use using words, use that money and use them in the way. That is the racist way to use that word right, mind a black eye and shout the inward Anna Maria DR you're thinking about what sort of punishment these sorts of things should entail should entail destroying your entire life in a racing you from societies, proportionality. He says that the thing, though, that I think that too many conserve boots don't understand, which is this is the first that were in Europe were not in the fight where we have to Storm Normandy, where we have to come off the ships and the machine guns were come here. This is the fight and so, and so when you say oh, this is going to cost you money where this is going to cost. You your job, or this is going to cost you your friends. This is were than those guys who stole Normandy actually got bullets in the head. and you were killed, lost their law and I'm worried bit like we don't understand. As a as half of the country, we dont understand that the losses

were suffering are the losses you suffer when you are in a fight that has to be want anyone and you're gonna you're gonna suffer those losses anyway, that's what goes even if the council mobs coming after you, where you have to understand, is there's a very good chance it that they will destroy your life they might I mean you, might you might beat them? Junior Cyrano beat them. You might not be and they might destroy you, but that's gonna happen anyway and What you can decide right now is whether you can have your dignity on the way out. More than Wallen decided that he's not gonna have dignity because he apologized to these people. Who is a thing about an apology you apologize to people who have actually harm Sadly, this is around so of Morgan. Wallen had gone to his neighbors and knocked on their door personally without any cameras there. That's it listen. If I you know, if you hadn't that I'm so sorry. I apologise to you that was of noxious too many a charade, morally right arm, and then, if he had just gone and done, is his video thing and said: listen, I type to my neighbors, I'm not going to tell you what our conversation was is on your business, but all you people out there trying to destroy me. I do not APOLLO,

to you, because you are not harmed by what I did. You don't really care at I'm excited for the opportunity, destroy my life just because you get a kick out of it. So I do not oppose to you, if you were offended, I'm glad you were offended you it's all. I have to say about that. Got to do this and the thing is it so that had been the same spot today. That is that the thirty eight anyone any really, but I do think there is a special duty that adheres to people who have the power to do that because of Morgan wallet had done there. It would mean a hell of a lot more than the local Employers Coca COLA right when we, when we like what we did with Jean, I think is, is enemy. Ourselves on the back. What we deserve a patent mother, Teresa arms and legs actually know you like is illegal and battle it like. I like, I think the audience knows this, which is why we have the best with our hadn't history. The company over this, the the by ought by putting our money where our mouth is and saying we're not going to allow people to be cancelled. That was a statesman culture and that sustain them more business people need to make a mean I'll, be

if you I would hire Morgan Wall and tomorrow I tried to reach that Mauritania out higher Morgan, while in tomorrow, because I dont think that what Morgan Wallen did was intended to black people, and I don't think that what you did did harm black people ray. I think the what he did was being ass right in and guess what being ass is about. To do and again on child resurrectos. But that is a legal thing to do. In the United States, and sometimes you go on ass is in, there should be forgiveness. Available to people are assets and again and again, the prisoner, you of your most seats, will help schools open shoeblack. Their children with the real things aren't happening. There is a phrase that their Jeremy One said in a very similar sort of cancellation situation in Iraq made here, and that is that the cowards get her friends guilt, that's really we're talking about here, because it's not just that they're a coward their backing down and hopes that they get their career back, it's the cowardice everybody else killed because now but the new standard any reinforced the standard originally in the context of marked applause, who, of course, this famous director producer actor who committed,

grave sin of one's. Having signed a nice thing about me on twitter right, he came office. I gave an hour and a half might hold up against. Yeah. I mean of course answered he. I give an hour and a half my time. We talk about. Second amendment stumbles very nice to me ass. He was leaving us it's for your own sake, do not pay, Stan social media, that you're here, they're gonna wrecking for it and a couple. Later. He got it into his head. The who's gonna do a nice thing and each weeded out. I must disagree venture about a lot of things, but he did the nice thing for me when you didn't have to and is well intentioned, you got hit so hard. They can not only pulled out we then issued grovelling, apology right and then what ended up happening back their grovelling. Apology is the James gone, cannot defended him and then nobody in the right resurface, James Guns, old material and James Gonna end up getting fired right and I ended up defends James, gotten in this bizarre situation, shows like Janos likes by existing. I took out half the marble and what are we set at? That time? Is the thing about cowards, they rarely get themselves killed. They get their friends killed, because when you doc out of the battle and of doing is granting the opposition their entire premise in their premises then used against all the people who here too, for you or your friends, and so that's

The right you should only apologies are one. awful thing when you have done wrong thing. If you have a good marriage upheld first thing in the morning: your wife, but the reality grim when it doesnt have a husband lays the first word adding amounts in the morning, but but what and when it comes to public policy, showing of these Maoist struggle session. Apologies for things that I haven't done wrong to people. You have not wrong when people issue allergies and they say to everyone and who was offended by this we'll know if your phone, by this? Wrongly I'm sorry, your ear? Emotions may even be authentic, but that does not mean they are justified and you do not deserve an apology. Will you know point of now ism, I think that's actually the perfect term there. There was this phenomenon in the seventies with a new, radical women's group, they coined the term or sort of popular residuum consciousness. Raising These famous meetings, where you'd get all these housewives to come together, and they would I the wine and she's Suarez that can play in the whole time. In their famous, I say about this by Caroline Danish and she says that there was a woman who came- and she said you know

I came here to night Ladys. I had no idea, how oppressed I was but Doorn finally, I am so oppress them. recent aggrieved yup, and then you see this now people trying to convince themselves to be aggrieved and offended by some public com No one cares about. I want to say one thing in Mark Watts: allowances is marked lorry and organised crime. an immortal, Mullins defence, and that's that I think that for us we live in this space and we know about this fight. I think when, when they come for you and you, haven't thought about this thing that it is a really good who they are taking your life and your name? We talk would you neither do you think you can hear and you're good name away matters that everybody was revenues telling you to do it yeah you I mean honestly. The best thing that happened in Vienna in this whole thing is that an agency did number because of rage and after we had called her up Norwegian. What I said don't take their cop know. Why not take her up, because if you work with them you'll, never

in this town again. Another reality is the reverend. What Gina Workin the town again anyway, right ripened her agent, would said now, maybe in a few years, even go away for a while. You can earn your way back in with bit parts currency would happen. Morgan Wallen is that his initial reaction was probably. I really know what is going on right now and just got off the phone with him and probably said to him, was in union station apology right now, maybe you and put out the fire right now and then the new cycle move on, but you need Alias issue the apology to this, and if it is, you ve never been through the fire, it is agreed. Yes, I mean it is. It is truly want the worst. I can tell you that person who get stranded on twitter problem every two athletes right. I mean it is never fine weather is, spider unjustified, it is never fun and that's as somebody who doesn't professionally I basically trend on twitter professionally, if you're somebody who only trends once in your life and that time, because you're losing your job in your livelihood and it's who know me of media coverage like it's. You know me because the more you trend, the less big the bombs are honestly likened. we have the differential from nor, like

the normal, for me is that I mentioned on Twitter a lot and then, on a few days a month. I dimension like a super lot, but if you're Gina, we'll dimension on twitter. All that often, except for people, are saying the angel you're, the man Delorean and then one day you are the only thing. Everyone in the dream. The trend is followed by a delusion of emails, often phone gills and its overwhelming people don't know that passes to you before we started matinee we're talking about media matters who do nothing, but they sit on and they listen to us and try and twisted our words into and publicize. Our but those are my public and ensure they tried if they try to make a sound like terrible people for things that we say which in contexts are actually not terrible little, and I have to admit it's a terrible that you're gonna hate me for this. I actually have pity for them. He uptake that that's your job. Your job is to try and make other people look bad and to listen to Us- and I just think like at the end of your life, like you're gonna stand before the throne of God and he's gonna go like what did you do? Why

now? There are damaged people, burial question about them and it does get to your point, which is I don't? I don't need to accept their standard, you know if they, if, if they basically on the left or they existed, is called us all racist debate now and then one day a clip of Joe Biden goes around and its stumbles on his words because it's a David ends and why- and he sort of sounds like he said the inward and then we all sort of giggle about that. I dont care Thank you really said that I don't, I don't think he is some beget. I don't think that I just gets playing into their game, pointing out a hypocrisy that they don't care about. As I don't care, but the rules anyway. They just don't like us. I would much rather do what I'm gonna do. I would much rather be old culture make movies with people we want to work with. Do those sorts of things than worry about their stupid rules which change everybody s right. I mean that this is the thing that I cling to is. Racism is an actual philosophy which I I don't hold them think any of the people in this room hold it. It's not a slip of the tongue.

It's not about something that you might have said. There was untoward its name in a moment of anger when some tribal, a glitch in your brain, goes off. It's an actual way of life. I know racist they. They actually think the things that these people are being cancelled. For I just don't accept the terms. I do not accept the terms of the arguments. I don't accept that, as you say that if somebody shouted a word, he shouldn't shop. Well, that's a bad thing, but it's not necessarily racist thing. This driving you're talking about the bachelor. I just think it's absurdly disaster, we're dispassionately, we noted gripped because of the governor of Virginia who doesn't get cancelled for because then a Republican go a step. Further shouting a racial pejorative is not necessarily racist. That's what this right now you implement doing something racist does not necessarily make you array

It means you did erases thing so the right there actually even there's an even another gradation, which is, I think, a very interesting point you just made. Sometimes people in their worst moments actually do succumb to the. his thoughts, the training that doesn't have legally defined the effort of your people say all the time like, and this is not what the doctor on the other. There are gradations at our gradations and what the western societies there are no gradations of sin. There is just the dams and the Woke and that it right there there this thing that people used to say back in college. I work here: you'd you'd have a couple too many drinks, you'd, say something you shouldn about one year bodies or whatever you need apologize. The next day I know what you say when you're drunk as better, you really are. I saw the real you because they all your inhibitions were gone. You said what you really believe, and that never resonated with me ass, reduce it. What I actually thought was no, when my inhibitions were gone when my rational mind was gone when I was all

given into my vices and assist passions, the years you're you're saying that that's the road me but no, the real me is all of the things that I've built on top of my worst impulse right. Well, the thing is I built on top of my intrinsic try ballistic. Of looking at things, are my selfish ways of looking at things are my vain way, looking at rise and my hateful what we all have the seed of sin in us. What we build on top of that is the real US citizens. Why were you when I was talking about a rush alot of this week, as we all were in thinking about rush and I was really obvious. I think all of us were really just moved by the passing of the sky and all these liberals celebrating his death and publishing things that he had said, some of which were untoward most of the things they published never set yet again, but now and again she said something that I thought MIKE. I don't agree with that, but I don't think probably wash if you push

the war would agree with it, but he spoke three hours a day life to people that more thirty years for Burma. There people speak to their spouses. You do not speak your spouse. That hours a day and when I say that all these peoples, you ever see anything to your spouse, that your glass and become this would mean that Europe is what am I gonna. Do I run the New York Times, which, frankly, I'm shocked because they solicited in Abed from me. I will, I will say they took out his by had at the New York Times and peace. There was originally all I know I've. I mentioned the fact that the headline in the New York Times about rush was that he had like turn talk radio into an aggressor, right wing attack machine and there have lied about. I telecom any was thoughtful, religiously, rather like a young, but the point I was making is that what the left it with Russia is what they are going to do with all of they're like the so in Judaism, Senseteach all about a different religions, so trivial Satan is not a character who oppose God, that's not what Satan Satan is known as the accuser, because he's essentially the prosecutor, the ideas

After you die, Satan comes, and he basically is the who is going to try you in court before God the one who strings together all of your sort of worst moments right, and that is what this is, and this will come from as I said in the peace that it wouldn't mattered if had been Tucker or have been drawn up for me, had it been you or anybody was prominent on the right after what happened, the same, because all our lives would have been would have been a compendium of the word moments of us taken out of context and robbed of all meaning right. That's all would have it and that's what you saw in the Vienna montage right? The montage of rush was like Sandra flock and it was the aid stuff from nineteen eighteen. Eighty eight turning it was it was all. This is like the out of the thirty years of material. What are these six worse things he did can we use those things to rag on? Can we use those things are characterizes entire life and we should all used to accept this frame, which refuse to accept this frame. The reality is that we are all compendium of all the things that we have done over the course of airline most which people never see and for those of us who are in public life.

Yet the notion that everything that you do can be boiled down into one bad tweet or one bad moment all that really is because it can be done to anybody all that anybody, but it don't isn't, but it does it isn't, but it, but because it can be done anybody, that's how you know who they hate wreckers into with anybody regularly. Anybody and be it, but there is only one side: the guiles they choose to do this through those are the people that they cancel and so dont, except the standard that this how people should be characterized. I think it so important for us to reject this framework for the sake of our children. Yes, because our our children, when we had already please think of vigour I actually think about children, because our kids, not my kids, but so many kids are, are starting out on social media age. I, like we years old and on or even if they start a social media at fourteen or fifteen, and in just everything they think that. Everything enters their head is documented forever and you gotta think about what were

What were starting right now, this cancer culture, if it continues like this thirty years from now, all of our children are ruined there their lives, are ruined, unlike vitally grateful. Tat died that I grew up before supper on my right. You know also on this rush point I mean figure, these kids european social media. All the time. Imagine what's gonna crop up. Imagine and if you ve been on air for three hours a day for further years in your job by the way is to be provocative, especially earlier on in the career and the best they got on you he's an AIDS joke. You made a knife, imagine that I, like I, wake up in the morning right. We we actually pray the sort of things like God have, c on me, a miserable sinner you think of these lines from Shakespeare like I could accuse myself of such things that it would be better. that my mother had not born me all the, since we all commit that's the best. They got guy he's pretty clean. Well, Sir Edward taken out of conduct would be going forward, because we're not taking, of course, the time when these things were said into context at all.

We and we forget about nineteen. Eighty we're going back to the eighteen it is in saying, like whatever someone did back, then we're gonna hold up to the standards of the year twenty twenty one, which of course is complete. Mad Emily somebody who's running publicly. From ten seventeen. I can see the great majority of the things I regret having written occurred between the age of seventeen and twenty two run right like the, because what First starting our number one you're paying attention and number two your thoughts on fully formed right right. If you don't get better at what you do over time, because it better think over time, you're not being a human being better than this Of maturing, and so well then, Yes, celebrate the stuff. This is how the needs, the easiest form of fake journalism right, there's the other things that the media have made an entire model, the same people who wine about the fact that we had good traffic over the wireless we happen to be conservative, the end and then say that work like bait. the same people who run a three thousand were piece about some jackass a nineteen year old student who decides to out of high school cheerleader, who once texted something about burning to dry, and quoted a rapid work with the inward in it and get to catch up.

University of Tennessee cheerleading him their homes actually did that in your Tanzania. Long piece about this is terrible student. I mean that discussing terrible person who, early held there's a fifteen year old girl ass, you gotta drivers, permit she put up a video on her phone, saying something I can drive now and word, and it was obviously meant to quote a rap where clearly, We are quite aware rattle. After all, this was not a epithet aimed interracial, and everybody acknowledged this right. This is fully obvious and this jerk decide exudes inner class. He decided can a hold on to this video. He waited until shoot. Three years later, you're just kept this video around Until three years later, when blacklist matter happen- and she maybe great misfortune of posting something in support of Likewise matter, and he said well, you saying support black live matter. You said this boom puts out the video diversity of Tennessee withdraws where it hurts leading scholarship, which was a dream, was to be the on the University tenancy cheerleading scene, which is one of the great relating to the country she had to withdraw.

Her entire admission from University of Tennessee over this day, we are creating an unlivable Roger is only level for people on the hard left and bodily. Everybody knows that everybody in it it's not even gonna, be livable for them. finally, as Nada revolutions eat the revolutions, yet their own. Every one of them is gonna by all the people. Like you talk about our publicists Albert media matters and sleeping giant sin Jutland, Lamb and Kevin Roofs and careless wisher they dont they're all do the rough, not because I am not yet because of us cause they're, not twenty three woke twenty three or else the walk twenty three year old Will one day eat them for lunch.

We have put the think of poor Trotzky rights. Have you thought he had it so well for ever hear a ringing in your area? I didn't I I just put it ain't us bring it aims at that's. Why you're some here, people on the right and lament this happening to some of the counsellors? No, no! They deserve every bit of what they back about them. They built this, and that is what they have coming. So they can objected to it happening to them and still recognised. They have exactly. What they built Cummings. It's it's really interesting to me: who has oil, but I've been an artist all my life, half the people. I know a gay I've worked with all these gay people. always enjoyed their company there hilariously funny all the stuff. I once went snorkeling with Ryan Anderson Harriet. Eighty out, I'm right and I together as one game that matter yet. But I remember, but I remember back in the day syrian liberals, liberals who wouldn't come back to my house because they met a gay person than they wouldn't come back and to see me because they come to a party and there was a gay couple there.

Those same people, those same people walking around with the rainbow flags now at an end cancelling any? And I just think like it's. It's all my watch. This is the thing that really gets me is all a Griffin has nothing to do with the happiness of gay people of black people of women of transit has nothing to do with any of that. is the world happier become cancel culture. It is much much will. This is by the way. This is sort of the thesis of that. My first book with words is this kind wait here wait, a minute. This is shocking, will save ideas, but that political correctness basically replaces moral codes with speech. Goads, re old moral comes within like each got sort matters much less. What you do and actually doesn't really matter in all what you did it matter is what you say and the imposition of that because those who think it bipolar Ladys, because no matter what you do is is it is all you say if I think about this, with the actor army, hammer yeah,

Do you guys know was many years ago a good, a good friend of mine, a pile of mine. In later years we ve not been closer, are has taken us in different directions and he doesn't share our politics but syllogism very fond of it. He said some things on to some gauss bitter hard to read their weird. He expressed sexual predilections to them and for that he's being erased from the world, I will even understand the store. This is my point. So Army says you know. I want a toad and I'd like to eat your ribbon. Some other thing and here among us, have the ribs our delicious away human, if just backward animal unscathed

army didn't eat anybody, yeah right, right, army didn't drug and sodomize a thirteen year old girl, like Roman Polanski did and Harrison Ford flew to France to give him an honorary Oscar like this is why I don't get it only what you say you're he expressed some words. He expressly dark. We fantasy Zimbabwe needs understood the story he he has some kind of weird sexual fetish that he performed on some of these girls who were there. They didn't stop him from doing this. mom understood. I don't know what you think. It'll work like another words like I saw you gave in consensual sex yeah, and he said that like to eat a reverie to couple a toes in some direct messages and for this he must be destroyed now making a moral defence of know that, but it anyway What's Avonlea whether or not, but I am saying what what did we try anything huns beyond

on the other, there are logical, wants to talk to be able to show that I was an interesting story because it shook, as cosmopolitan magazine, actually published an article after that defending cannibalism finishes that I run, I read the article for Sunday we who doesn't do. I was when I read the article for some reason. It just struck me that there is stopping little bit by gas, but it just our culture has no language anymore, should condemn any kind of perversion yeah, because it's all about consent. and saw it didn't the only language, the only the only moral rule. We have left us consent and that's everything comes out again set aside your consent than we have no language with which to condemn any and so this article was going through couldn't just come out and say: well, this is wrong to want it. You people, that's weird and wrong. You can say that, so, instead, it was trying-

figure out how well you didn't really have concerned? Will you know how they did this? The greatest version of this forget forget armies thing was Marilyn, Manson Marilyn man's is being accused by the accurate seven Rachel would very left wing budgets testified on this and some other women of engaging in very sort of bizarre sexual behaviour. We're not just talking about fantasies and the thing is these: women were long standing relationships with him, and so, whenever Rachel. What am I? I really take her side in this she's saying well, I know we were in a consensual relationship, but it wasn't really consensual because You know I was brainwashed, he manipulated. May you know arab finite? I totally understand that argument, but that argument Doesn't work in the modern liberal framework setting down entirely disagree with you guys about this. I think I agree with the fundamental point that you're making that consent isn't the ultimate definition of morality a consent is, can submit it. That doesn't mean that. Can

it isn't a standard. I don't lie unequal standard for sure. My so that is the only standards is left applies on financial somebody on the basis of violet, of violating a standard. You have not violated right right. I mean the actors and concerted, saying that's weird and pro: and always wrong and is always wrong. We're not gonna be patron in businesses with people who on each other's Taos, weird none but for liberals for whom literally. Nothing is off limits. So long as it is consensual approach, there is no. There is no basis for I am so it's a wee it's a week standards, but the point is they live? If, if your stand, for judging the morality of a sexual act. Is this something like love devotion? Are you respecting the dignity of the other person? Well, then, I have to talk about consent at all, because that's included in the love, devotion and dignity bit, but you, rid of all that. It all comes down to two to consent, and that's why you have all these. You know you all these cases on college campuses, woman wakes up the next day

She had consensual sex with a man, but she feels used and cheap and dirty and and and chief than she was used She was used like an object, but she did consent to it and the problem is not that you can send. The problem is that it was not sex with dignity and love, but she does. Have that language. So instead she figures well this wrong. I didn't really give consent, so I must yet must not gone can never giving assent, even though I did that's all right as a gay point. That is actually because it is a great point, an ex until you say, you're taking Rachel, let them Woodside, I'm I was sort of taking her sudden take it all away where I disagree with you. I agree with everything you just said is a moral standard, but I'm not I'm not saying that Maryland Manson for the further the sort of can actual acts that he is being accused of kidnapping and centralism. I'm not I'm not sending you a real recording that I think are making this important matters he's now. He knew nothing. They take Ivan Rachel Woodside in the sense that he is violated, some sort of left wing coal

we'll standard in autumn or civil war, or to be more civil law and ought to be ended, thou, I think you're just saying one. What magazine, which is they violate? I wonder. I fundamentally, though, object to the idea that you can retro actively remove consent because of regret. can we really will re labelling. We know quite fundamental, namely demand is making essential perceptive one which people aren't actively there. It's a lie, in other words, when they see, that their retroactively removing consent, the only moral standard they have his consent, but they know I feel like something wrong just happens and I say do not have the way which sprang to know whether there are get more Alan has been violated other than by retroactively, saying that the only value they have with violent theirs is, I know it was bad. Murat have been incinerators. I know is that I am here, though, which is that you have these left wingers grappling at this very traditional definition of consent and liberty, the kind of arrest of helium work or classical christian idea, which is that, if you are constantly

in vice and sin you're not actually free ride the man who sends a slave dissent that the example I uses the heroin added by by the kind of model left a standard of liberty. The heroin attic is the freest in the world right. As long as it's got a couple bucks in his pocket, he can shoot up pursue is appetites armoury once, but we all know, the aeronautical is the least free per This is why this is the thing you know you and I, like the show billions and billions. It was an end features this this guy who's, a prosecutor, who is a masochistic he's a sexual massacres, begin If you look for me like masochism as Saito masochism is, like you flip people with a tower, but this is like sticking. Cigarettes are like it. It's not is not a joke. In a loving relationship with his wife, where they do this thing and what you are left with is something's wrong with him yeah. You know, it's it's, not that they're doing anything illegal and it's not even thither outside of a loving relationship, because for a large period of the show there actually inner, loving relation

but something the matter with it. You know it's when I look at the guy you supposed to be a girl who's in the now the health of humans services, Rachel, Levine Young. I think, like you. I have nothing but sympathy for this person things wrong with. You know right this following the matter with them, and I think that, like we have to be able to talk about that without necessarily moral judgment, but it with some kinda, because right now the arguments as well, you can do whatever you want, do it any longer incentive? But the question then, is well something that's a little wrong. We loon leopard. Oliver judge you shouldn't, warn that you think that you will use, can rise to two things can be for ones which, as you can do anything incentive as long as you're a job that doesn't make it right, that's right, but this is something that is that this is something the end, and this is an ethos that is completely Florence had left, this is where the running into trouble, because the eat, those that you can do something wrong, but still it can be wrong.

Is something tat, fundamentally, Zadok sap right into neither now cracking back against freedom of association and Freedom of speech in all individual rights right. If you can misuse freedom of speech, that means that freedom of speech should actively be curbed. rocky misuse. Freedom of Association Freedom Association should should actively be curbed. The right understands that there is a difference between the right to do wrong. And the possibility of doing wrong with that right rather than you can you can abuse are right, but that doesn't vitiate. the central right that you're talking about the left fundamentally does not understand this. So what this creates is this bizarre situation were dealt though something is wrong and they can explain why it's wrong. We're which rule it is violated right as they have to post facto, create a rule that a well them to bar that figure you're, because They cannot accept the idea that somebody could do something wrong and also wooden violate any of their chief principles, because in essence authoritarian right, innocent? we think they don't like ought to be banned if they can't even come up with good reason in their own head white oughta, be banned, they will the new rule or they will spend the rule. So that thing ought to be banned at incredible,

That is my only question for any left us ever really. This is what is what I would ask if I got to ask a question at a democratic debate. Is is there anything that you believe is bad that should not be banned by government there? Is there anything you believe, is good. That should not be mandated to write. You know, it is sure, is, is incredibly biblical, even for your half of the Bible. No is incredibly the goal that when we talk about, why God allows evil and theirs Large body of discussion about and one of the ideas that, because he believes that men have to be free every at many one to be free in order to love God in order to serve go freely. But that means that you cannot do it, and so that's that's. Not the relationship of power to the people who are less powerful is yes, you have to have the right to do things are all, but I do think that doesn't mean them they're right then I woke has missed a pagan religion. Yes

and does not lapse as I do? I do think, though, the left is saying something even more radical, which is their saying. I'm not really free. You know, in the case of Em Rachel orders, she sank, I'm not free to consent Whenever reason you know I was manipulated or whatever, and this actually gets to something the founding fathers talked about. This gets to something that serve classical Lord ACT and talks about actually classical theorize errors of of liberty, which is to be free, you actually have to be a moral and religious people in the words of John Adams, when you need to practise the virtues and cultivate that the point of liberal education is to do this rights. Why we take little kids, who are just basically appetite machines and doing everything, that's bad for them, we educate them in their liberty, and hopefully they can kind a tame it and be able to master that with the left. The saying is we don't have that we were just appetite online. What was one of the things that happened in just philosophically

it was a really radical shift in any sort of how western vile went. Is that used to be that people perceive natural law in where the catholic Church perceive natural law, which is you can look at them? way that natures constitute an? U can derive from their rational rules as to how the world of work actual rules of virtue as to how you should live your life rather than embedded in the laws of nature, natures, God, as is the language of the of the declaration independence and the there was a shift that happened I, particularly in the nineteenth century, from the idea of natural law to nature ass guide, yeah right as in scientific nature, as in, if something here than to you, and it was natural to you. You had a natural desire than this meant that this natural desire was justified. You see this is this it. You can see this in nice in benefited to be. You know, as a sort of greatness is possible terms, public culture, if you look at lady got more in this way right. This is the argument right if it is natural for you to do. It is therefore good for you tackle. That is the precise opposite of what natural law suggest, which is. It may be natural for you to have particular inclination, but the word

around? You suggest a particular set of rules and you're supposed to incline yourself toward that particular set of real. You can no violation. Reason of your own right in his man was meant to reason, but the the this goes back to. I think the another fundamental distinction that the left eye is is now attempting conflate. is it an entire editorial in New York Times today, those kind of fascinating- and it was a complaint about why we Philosophy was so focused on separating man from animals. I think I saw this is kind of Action I use it as an entire essay about. Why do little? All western philosophies dedicated towards the idea. The man is not the same as a squirrel, and this is very bad. We should actually allow man just be the same as a squirrel, because squirrels, our natural and squirrels have in human beings are natural that we should knowledge. We are not just our reason. We are not just our prefrontal cortex, where all of the elements of a threat and western philosophy was built around the idea that we are not the same as animal specifically because western philosophy both around the idea that man was made for a purpose, and that purpose was to reason. That purpose was to you is our brains in order to seek out God and to seek

the rules to live a virtuous life and the left has attempted officiate. That is why Darwin this white dog, when he in theory did so much damage to religion, not because there is anything that doesn't fit in of evolution. Religion can square. That's for sure, but what really finished it was. And yet that man is an animal and won't you. Man is an animal and there's no fixed nature right, evolving, Riah, but but more importantly, that that you there's nothing better about frontal cortex than the irregular Europe? Where there's nothing, there's nothing preferable about being a reasonable person, as opposed to being emotional person or percentages. all of them and by the way I was their nature, its worth pointing out when Woodrow Wilson are, you know, sort of first the programmes with american history, yeah for United in the first left progressive president, he who destroy in our country when he writes about what is progress? What is progressive? Isn't he uses that exotics example? He says the constitution is based on the Science of Newton, fixed laws, permanent nature. All these, thanks, but we know that bunk we now live in the age of Darwin. I don't think Woodrow Wilson under

Darwin very well anyway, bodies as Darwin nothing's fixed at all, kind of a continuum man we're not that different and therefore throw up. All those permanently have we got to have we done to a point where we have to think about this a lot and we got to the point where. the whole conversation around rights is, is just hopeless because we can't your hundred Americans until room you ask him what what is what does it mean to have a right? What is a human right and you're not get even a fifty percent agreement. Nobody has any idea what these things are. You don't have the same one other thing: ethical grounding for it. But that's all we got no right where this would wear it way. We you know, maybe we stop me. we as conservative, stop framing our arguments so much around rights and find a different framework for it like so, for example, abortion and Sophie for so long proliferates would say we have a right to life and that that it actually raises a lot of questions like what. What do you mean the right to life or a right again

who you crook claimed, we didn't write a land of zero right. Exactly if, if you have a right to life, doesn't mean you can't be executed and thought, maybe I better our word would be responsibility, and so what we should be saying is- and I believe we do have a right to life- understood a certain way, but maybe we should be saying that apparent has a responsibility to their child and what that means at a minimum, as he can't kill your child, you have to provide for them. We all agree with that when it comes born children you'll get started that you got it. I dont think only of traditional conservative framing what you're right. It's maybe maybe responsibilities limit when I got into this brief twitter exchange with David French. What one of the things I said was you endowed by your career with certain rights and government is instituted them. men to ensure those rights. So if those rights are under threat it doesn't matter whether under threat from government has a right to stop that threaten, and many

many people, came on this, this twitter thread and said o any argument from God is absurd. But the problem, the problem with that is that's actually the axiom of our should rise. If that is the self evident truth that doesn't have to be proved, it only has to be asserted because everything else is built on top of it. You can't remove it. You cannot move that assumption and we shouldn't be afraid to make that assumption, because it's the axiom there that there is a common argument that the counters consistently made in which right about which is that the other half of writers, duty rights and duties which the flip side of each other and our right to life as my duty, not to kill you right in your right to free speech and my duty not to inhibit your first speech. We are understood this fundamentally. What we have done is we ve dumped the duty and you have kept the rights you until once you dump the duty, then

You can have rights against anyone for anything. We have no duty not to infringe on them, as was dumped the duties of funding for his we're going to have an area of bringing about the wax Algeria. I think I'm back elevated, something that we haven't done in a while. I would it with. This has been a great conversation. I want a rap out. The show with ten rapid fire questions from our daily work, calm subscribers, leashes gonna bring them to us. Here's the rules. What whoever the question is addressed, you're the only one to make an answer and its aid and its fast, but the answer we wanted the ten year for a rapid fire, some elation hour at the first car goes to Michael Northern Daily Wire member wants to know they live in a liberal mecca and they are considering leaving like the daily wire did. But should they be three minutes, and what do you think they're options and decision making should be considering they don't have a job or housing situations that up yet? Will you probably more

way to get a job and a cheaper house and a conservative place. I think those are both marks actually in favour of coming here. I love it. I wish in your sooner I love being in a red state and specifically in and I see all I will have a caveat here is. I feel I got a lot of growing up, left wing places because I learned all the stupidest arguments and it cost me a lot of time and held a lot of bad behavior, but I feel I came up stronger and wiser for it that, with a constructive process, However, if you're already formed in comfort, Israel is your goal, come over babies. Hennessy is fabulous arendt this question those two Matt people one. I know you think that the general public or major corporations will every girl a spine and just say no to the Wolf MOB and the Twitter Roddy no meaningful.

I think, Matt took that like the surface of the earth who said it all- our eye. He grew. Who would win a cage match between Gina and the entire daily wired, or would we be killed? Are you getting that if there was still in my youth I might have given her one another gotten one slogan, but now it's over. Media matters at that in his ear, Andrew Clayburn would have headlines, write them our age Jeremy. We want to know what kind of cigars and you guys smoking- I'm not smoking tonight. So I'm gonna kick the question over to Mickey little. but off Colorado, chloral, not a super duper expensive cigar, but it's got six years age on it from our bodies in our old shop. In L, a ban, it is

Lord season, even though it seems a little weird in this age of covert and people want to know what are your Oscar picks up? that they ve talked about. For Oscars, this you're absolutely sock, or I haven't seen them so I I really haven't seen many good movies. Is your run high fight when all of the item that aside from run high fight the unproductive Corrado film, should obviously also happy now when I did not ask yours ass only twenty to twenty two, I am trying to think of anything. That's really because you know you think Am I m really I'm really trying to all the Oscar Memories of like call me by your moonlight or some nonsense and no one. Why did a gentleman was? It was at this year's because that was Was it the average value guy regional character? I enjoy it really fun for that our aid Jeremy. This this question is, new daily, where member wants to know which actor are you kind of hoping gets cancelled? Next to you, I have a list. I hate to see an answer to that is so terrible. I will say that

the same day that fire Gina Carano was trending Fire Chris, proud was trending, and for God's sakes, Hollywood Please please, please send Chris Brad too out. Let me some Chris Pratt out of all the crescentini obviate, the best already I do think that we need more conservatives going into politics or going into cultural positions like film, making an producing and sitting and all those things well. I think Answer is yes, and I also think it's a little bit of a blurry distinction. You know because, obviously politics, the biggest definition of it, is what we all do together. But it's a it's a two pronged approach because forget elected politicians are always going to be sociopaths running for that it's the bureaucracy that we lose envy, actual administrative state and the entire cultural apparatus, and we did dont have anybody in any of those areas so a week need to go into both and boat. Both are important. I don't think it's only when the culture and forget about politics, and I don't think it's only focus on democratic politics and

nor an technology and tag and everything. Matt. Earlier on twitter, I saw that you re tweeted, Tommy Laren. She said trumped Santas, twenty twenty four. You said you agreed with half of the together with other than other than Rhonda dissenters. Who would you pig like what are your top three for the european twenty? Twenty four right. I don't have a top three. I like Rhonda Santas, I hate almost all politicians so for meat even say I like him is, is me going out on a limb and I give him Now that we ve got three years for years left before they can easily disappoint me, I shall be ready to taught him to the curb if it does, but some alibi, Randy, Santa's processes, great he's going, we got the governor of my excellent new state of Lord, unlike easy stud, and I really feel we don't have time it didn't all. This was a rapid fire but I feel very strongly that, Rhonda Santos automata take us a great idea, tromp on the top of the ticket. I don't know if we want to do all this again,

and twenty four, so I hate to interrupt I said we had to be rapid fire, but cannot sullens could would be formidable if she actually decided to make good under tweet threat. It is true It would be, for example, is interest story I won't want to run against. I also just to put a little plugin here. I would like to be the first podcast you know so there's other rather republican politicians who could be out there wouldn't mind during a pod. Cataracts might act endless just throwing that out there, something I'm encouraging people to do as we all know MIKE. Hoping that ban run so then he can get his radio slot lives through there's no way I can become the first biogas to introduce, drew, do plan on double masking No, I don't even single mass I only wholly a mask when I walk into a store and on the front of the store it says you have to have a master, you have to wear mess to enter the store, Otherwise, I haven't worn a mask since this.

become Andrews dreams, it does mean that happens every available, if I were, if we're going to die, died already lightly. Let's face it up on our most was to speak, but the vote on the mask thing. I discovered this weekend when you're wearing a suit jacket. If you were the net data, met, which is my move and you weren't around your neck. It actually looks like an ascot gums. That's kind of the kind of works like that. I haven't done anything that everything that every file she says. I do the opposite pregnant, whereby no up I've heard that I've heard that I didn't Anthony vouch impersonation yesterday and I heard a lot of our listeners that your Anthony vouch, impersonation button is the only nice thing I've ever set of animals. I don't know what you're talking about ten or fifteen years. Maybe I lived, and it is good that eyelids, who we know Ben feels about patchy and the vaccine about ban somebody wants to know. If you get the vaccine

Kay? I know it's against the law to get in touch with this daily. Worse, a farmer wants to now. Would you get it tattooed on your arm or somewhere, that you got the vaccines and then you don't have to wear a mask anymore: here's a baseball game, so his engineering, you talk about a yacht on your blog, so a couple of things: one Jews, nothing tattoos too, just super, not big into governments. Giving you tat a writer. Our governments are also improve about their hands, are worried about you. I gotta run into you, fine, a point on it, but yeah. I'm I'm not in favour of this as a general liberty matter. I am not in favour of the idea that you should be barred from all public place unless you have a vaccine green card. I do think that our public issues are doing us an enormous disservice. In continuing to lie to and say that you can go back regular wife after you, ve had about it. its literally the only tool that we know of right now that it's going to get the kind of safety critically for older from the disease that would reduce this to below the risk of the flu,

and if you get these vaccines, these actions are ninety nine percent effective in preventing death. Ninety five percent effective in for serious illness and ninety percent. Given preventing transmission. So this bizarre idea that after you get you're gonna be still living with the mast and socially distancing in twenty twenty two is anti. Science is bizarre. Actually encourages people not to get the vaccines of I'm thirty seven and I'm thinking to myself, ok! Well, there made them maybe like the risk of getting it will set from the vaccine, will feel so good. I note the long term effects of acts in our and listen. If I get cover Makin Diana when thirty seven and then you tell me, ok, but you can go back to regular life, I'm I think to myself. Ok, that that seems like it's worth the risk, but if you keep telling twenty five year old, but they can't go back to reckon, wife after they got the vaccine who, in their right mind would get the vaccine, and you have all these idiots like faulty saying you may in maybe we'll never go, a regular like, maybe will never do it never, and it's like what are you why? Why is that I mean it's a scientific miracle. I first of all the ripping on big business alot. Let me just say

are the greatest thing: the world's been farmer bit farmer that their unbelievable what they and the only pay generated birth rate is less and less than a year is unbelievable, but but, as far as the general concept of the government mandating vaccine cards to go anywhere that raising serious liberty concerns, I think, frankly, keyboards our forging them to go over there anyway, there there they're making the same mistake now that they made in March again just being replay, because in March they told her one? Don't wear, masks, stupid, where mass a surgeon general said people start wearing mass and the reason they said. That is because they do want us around. Didn't trust us do not run out and in biomedical masks and then, if they wanted to go to all the noise exact not to us anyway, I did so for now now, with the vaccine. They're doing the same thing again, where they're saying: oh, no, you never get a vaccine. You still have to wear the mask because they don't trust people aren't vaccinated and not where the mass, because they think that if they, if they start allowing people to welfare, that, if you forget about railroad automatic everyone Zaga. Where is there not trusting together?

means that they seem to think there are three choices here and there only two right: they think that there is a third choice for everybody gets back in it and then doesn't go out and party there's only two choices: everybody vaccinated and parties and nobody gets fastened, and in order to get the right, there is no current choice where everybody continues to walk down until the end of time, especially after being vaccinated. Let's idiotic, like this one thing that Israel is doing right wing, indeed, in a lot of things right, but one thing they're doing Raymond that they have shot and shot might at the bars are telling people like coming, get a shot and I'll give you a free shot therein young people to actively do this, and that is eight with These are things, that is to say something to do Matt people want to know how is it final being a daily wire, H, Q and national, and how different is it doing? Your show from there it's pretty nice. I have it. I have a series of complaints that I could barely having to do with the break room. There's a lot of the other day. I wanted to grab some half and half, and all they have is

cannot milk and like saw american Allman milk of everything, except for real milk. There is also a lot of sea weed related snacks that I have been asked me how I think I think you should take it up with your supervisor. Will Marty register They are worse than what an avowed complaint or knocking the investigating that too bad. So sad, Michael, was I heard from a little birdie, maybe named Dave Reuben that he's slightly better that the night before the daily, where it is there to Nashville, you claimed that you were staying here in California. I was once a nose. Was it we're losing so there there were a couple couple of these nights, Ruben never forget this. Now, in my defence, no

when he tells me nothing around you're, ok and my defence seriously. These guys. Their item is to be fair. I didn't want you to ease, they get an old, but it was funny because I was a deep. This was actually we had. Our truly are farewell dinner. It was you me drew Adam Corolla Prager was there, and we hope that you haven't you where you goin at this point, then we really hightail that. But I was a Dave's place and he said you know: knolls, you know knows we're gonna just take back Caliph

one year and work, you know to win back the hearts and minds, get where the new some man away and the hell is that and then like six hours areas I e by David. So what you're telling me is that you're, a liar of personality mirrors that I cannot but think about. Acting as there are no Jean Akerana Wave ruminates, Dana Caliph, now you'll be valuable. Your vote tomorrow is that you look you're gonna walk, that's why we're gonna grow old together as Jews in Florida and met, really should have acted as if we go further down the little easily one and we ve got more than ten, but I'm just still like rolling over them. Because I know you didn't stop me last question. Our last cos goes to you, God, king and a kind of piggy back on you asking if Michael vehicles that are getting acting, which he hadn't done. While unless that's what he's doing everyday honest podcast, The only way I can t

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