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That's the thing. Ok, so I feel like. If anyone has the same attitude that you do, they definitely need to listen close to this episode. Beak. I thought I knew this case inside and out until I really started digging into the fax and I know Absolutely nothing like nothing. I know to be true is true, and there are so many twists and turns that. Never I don't know if it does. You're so far away here in Indiana, but like it, never made it to us through the media or if the media was intentionally covering up all of these things. But it's it's not cut and dry. He maybe didn't do it well, I'm excited for you to maybe change my mind. Alright, so we're going to start the day before Lacey goes missing. She and Scott have a really normal day. First, they go to her sisters, salon and Scott gets a haircut and they actually invite her over for dinner. That night

but she already has plans, so she doesn't come over an around eight hundred and thirty Lacey calls her mom to confirm plans for Christmas Eve dinner Christmas. Eve is the next day and after she gets off the phone with her mother, they go to bed. They are watching a movie in bed till about one thousand and thirty when they fall asleep now the next day. This is the critical December 24th, two thousand and two when Lacey is officially reported missing. An the only account we have from this day obviously comes from Scott because he was the only person who was with her, and he says the day starts around seven hundred to seven hundred and thirty is when Lacey wakes up,

eats breakfast and he gets up between eight hundred and eight hundred and thirty, and around eight hundred and forty five nine forty five Lacey's telling Scott all of her plans for the day she wants to walk the dog. She needs to go to the store because it's her responsibility, she's, bringing this like french toast Christmas Casserole, brunch casserole to the brunch that she organized with her mother and She had to go pick up all the ingredients and actually the recipe for this. This casserole was on her kitchen counter, so that kind of lends credence to his story. An around nine hundred and forty five. He says that he and her were watching Martha Stewart that morning and she was talking about making some kind of lemon meringue cookie or something like that, and shortly after this sometime within the next forty minutes, Lacey is mopping. The floor and Scott starts packing up his truck and decides to leave, be

He was going to go golfing, but it was really too cold that day and he decides that he's going to take his new boat out and go fishing instead. So He's got a nine minute drive to this warehouse that he keeps where he holds his bow. And it's kind of like a little office got this computer an so while he's driving there, the police have records, he checks his voicemail at one thousand and eight and the voicemail was from his boss. So when he gets to his warehouse he actually gets on the computer and there's records to show that he was actively using his computer from one thousand and thirty in the morning to one thousand and fifty six in the morning, and he sends an email to his boss replying to the email. And then he looks up instructions on how to assemble this woodworking tool that he had just gotten in the mail couple of days ago and

at this point we have about twenty minutes, that's unaccounted for of his time, but and the you know later the prosecution. What everyone says is on the you know in this twenty minutes he's wrapping up the bodies attaching weights he's doing whatever it is, he's doing it right, depending on how you look it's either sinister or not, but what they do find is when they come back to the warehouse that tool that he just received in the mail was fully assembled. So it's really possible that in these twenty minutes he was actually assembling the tool that he had looked up. Instructions to assemble so he then leaves and goes to the marina and he get to actual ticket at one thousand two hundred and fifty four showing that he arrived at the boat dock and was going to launch his vote, and so he gets his boat backed up and into the water, and he from one thousand two hundred and fifty five to two hundred and eleven is out fishing and there are actually people who saw him back up his bow load up his boat,

and launch- and the thing here is, is you would think again? Everyone's theory is that he dumped Leisy in the Berkeley, Marina or somewhere in the bay. You would think someone had seen her body. I mean they saw him launch it's a fourteen foot little fishing bow. It's not some yacht that he can hide her body below oh, she launches. He launches. Aph people see him, they don't say anything, but you know who knows so so many questions surrounding that. He ends up leaving between two hundred and fifteen and three hundred and twenty five. He gets his boat docked up, and this is where we kind of hear a famous call of him calling Lacey to let know that he was on his way home and I call it the hey, beautiful, call: hey beautiful, I just a message at home at two hundred and fifteen. Ok, I won't be able to get to develop farms to get that basket for Papa 'cause, hoping you would get this.

Did you end up going out there I'll see in a bit? We love you so he's coming back at this point stops for gas. He actually tries to call Lacey again and he arrives back at his warehouse at four hundred and thirteen an he packs everything up an gets home between four hundred and thirty and four hundred and forty five, which matches perfectly. If he's going to load up his stuff and then make the nine minute drive back home, and at this point he notices a couple of weird things. So Lacey's car is in the driveway, but Lacey isn't home and he says at this point he makes the assumption that Lacey's mom came over and picked her up and they went Christmas shopping or she went over to help prepare the Christmas Eve dinner or whatever it was

but he's not immediately concerned. The door is unlocked and their dog Mckinsey is in the backyard with her leaf still on, which is a little bizarre because he said that I mean anyone with a dog doesn't just like leave their dog in the yard, with the leash on, if they're not like being tied up or something like that, so he takes Alicia. And then, and lazy had been mopping earlier. If you'll remember when he left, he said that there was like dirty mop water still, so he dumps that out and then he decides to go shower and wash his clothes, and this is huge everyone who is against Scott they're, saying like why on earth with the first thing you do, is you your wife isn't home and you come home and you shower and you wash your clothes and he says. Well again, I wasn't super concerned an I stunk. I was fishing.

Freak. So he wanted in the shower. Then he's like oh supernormal, like if I go into my my workshop. I'm often around a lot of chemicals. I have a pregnant wife at home. So a lot of the times. The first thing I'll do is put my clothes in the wash and just start the wash. You know any means anchor washing by hand you just press. A couple ones it's not a huge deal. I gotta say I agree with him on this yeah yeah, not so bad, not so guilty. The next thing he does when he gets out of the shower is he presses play that he sees him. The messages that we got our this is two thousand and tail and like so, there is actually think Miss yeah, actually still answering machines, and this guy plays the messages and He hears his own message, which makes him think that she wasn't where to even get that one initially and then he also here is a message from Lacey Stepdad, Anne Lacey stuff that had called

hey. You know when you guys come over later today. Can you please bring some whipped cream? We don't have any for the pies, and this is the first time that he starts getting concerned because you know his assumption is okay, if you weren't there when I called you, I thought you were with your mother, but now they're calling us asking for something. So he immediately calls her family in starts ringing, alarm bells and asking you know she with you, which immediately obviously she's not and everyone starts getting concerned an at. He calls them at five hundred and seventeen at five hundred and eighteen. The family is on the go full on search, so Scott takes Mckinsey and he's walking around the neighborhood, seeing if he can see any. Kind of her. You know. Maybe something happened and she fell over. You know she's, eight months pregnant at this time, so anything can happen and the families driving around the families making calls and by five hundred and forty seven her step

I had called nine one one, and this is again something that people often point to like old. Why on earth? I wasn't Scott yeah, yes, Scott called her dad like no called I want. But again I mean to play devil's advocate like if I came home and my husband wasn't home the first and I can do to one on one. I am I'm going to like call the people who he might be with and not trying over react right away, but her dad called nine one, one and the six hundred and fifty. So it's about an hour later, Modesto police arrive and the first detective on the scene is owl. Brocchini Ann. He looks around at the house, got let's him in without a warrant and says yes, absolutely look around. Everything looks undisturbed and there's nothing really there to go off of, but Al Brocchini says like right from the get go Scotts to me.

Where is wrong, he's concerned with them like when they were in the driveway and opening the doors he doesn't want them to like scratches truck he's, making them use coasters under all their drinks, and he's like this isn't he's not grieving husband he's not a concern husband and so immediately. You know whether it's his instincts are not the first thing. A lot of police do is talk to people close, so they bring Scott in for an interview that night and so from one thousand two hundred am to one hundred. Am there is a videotaped interview of Scott giving his testimony of the day and basically telling him like listen, you know, this is what I did. This is where I was, and you know he's asking all the important questions like what for problems in your marriage and Scott Scott says: no. They pretty normal marriage. They have a baby on the way he loved Lacey, an didn't have anything to do with her disappearance now now something to mention an

I don't know when this takes place exactly so, there's there's a cabbie out here, so I've seen reports, and I think this is something that at the time in two thousand and two two thousand three chosen for this is going on- that I heard b into the ground over and over was on December twenty. Fourth, so this is the same day. She goes missing at some point. I can't find a time stamp for any of this. It's reported that Scott order the Playboy channel? What a creep well yeah it's so in in, but when I was like look back again this is. This to me was something like one of the highlights like yeah. He to me like killed his wife had air. He ordered the Playboy Channel, like I could have said this over and over an when I went back and looked like all, I could find was from like two four and it was like people. Now, cuisine. There were some NBC Cbs, but it was like a one and done reporting, so I don't know, because what I'm finding

Scott's case is everyone was super anxious and like the as soon as something suspicious would come out. Everyone would report on it, as fact, and then there were things that as they found out weren't true they would like the media won't even back out. They would just pretend like it never happened. So, instead of like writing a retraction or saying like hey, I know we reported this, but here is actually what happened. They just dropped it. So it was reported back in two thousand and four at that somewhere on the 24th and again I don't know where, because he like gets home showers apparently looks for her and then like is in police custody, so I don't know when it was, but apparently he orders the Playboy Channel and then a couple days later, he orders like, like five days later, he orders like more explicit pornography channels, which again I have. I can't like show any court documents. I have gone through all the court documents like thirty

open pages, but all I have are these news, so take it with a grain of salt, but if it's real, it's real shady like real shady, definitely definitely suspicious. So at this point it takes us into Christmas day, like worst Christmas day of all time. So could you say- and he takes the Police- ask him to take a polygraph and at this point like his family he's willing to, but his family says you know what let's wait like until you have a lawyer like and even I if I could say anything, I if my husband was missing, I wouldn't take a polygraph like they can used in court. For a reason, it's not an exact science, but this obvious flea is something that police use to decide. If people are being honest even like, will it take it or won't they take? It gives it kind of indication indicator right right, so his whole family, or just him not to take the polygraph. So

original. He says yes, then he backs out and says no an again warning flags for the police like just go flying. So when the twenty six, the media, starts to get ahold of this case and for them it's perfect, and I think this. This is what added to the perfect storm of this case is, there is no real, like breaking news coming out like honor before or after Christmas. So the news, because dad and at two thousand and in two thousand and two is when the twenty four hour news cycle actually had she s begin had just begun and they're constantly looking truck trying to fill their their stream and said they start talking to his house and he has basically media hub, just parked on his front frontline and at this point people start coming forward and telling the family like hey. You know, I know it's going on like I'm in the neighborhood, I see all the police. I have seen the news media

I've, seen the reports and I think I've seen Laci walking that day and so all of this went do the police, the family would say: hey. You know to detective Al Bikini to whoever like go talk to these people. They said they seen Lacey. Maybe this will help us find her and what they are finding is there, assuming that the police are vetting. All of this. What we learn later is, I don't think they did a great job of the, but even early on, they really had their sights set on Scott. So we find out later that there were almost twenty e one hundred and twenty four sightings of lacey on the 24th walking her dog what yeah, but none of this really gets into any formal report or any it doesn't play into the process, this theory at all of what happened. Yeah I mean not like I was at the mail or anything, but I had definitely never heard that right so on the 26th, the police ask

got they you know they didn't like an initial like look around on the 24th, but on the twenty six they ask him to do a formal search of the place where they would actually try and collect evidence. Do fingerprinting all of that Anne. What again, what we hear in the media is at Scott denied them and that they went in with a search warrant, Scotts version and his family's version of this is Scott had an attorney at this time and he said yeah, I'm fine with it. Let me clear with my attorney and Scott didn't hear back from his attorney in time, and the police just got restless listened. And well you know. We are basically just asking to see what you would say: we have a warrant anyways and they serve the warrant at five pm on the twenty six and did a full suite of the house. Now with you, that's for two, the twenty seven at this point again we're all about sky and everyone saying that Scott is it reacting how they want him to react? He

really wants nothing to do with the media, which again people say is suspicious. They know a lot of people in the stories that I read had been like you know. If it was my wife, I would want all the media attention I could get. I won't would do all the interviews, Do anything to help find her? I always try and be really. I do. I don't like to those are really old statements. No one knows how they're going to react in a situation like this. Exactly like I try not say like. If I was this person, I am not a twenty seven year old male who just lost his wife and child or that they're just missing. I have no clue how I would react an even my reaction. Probably is nothing to do with. Someone else is reaction so, but I will say I mean I I try not to do it, but I've been guilty of it before uh, like looking at somebody being like. I mean dude like you're, looking fish so

right. I think everyone has the, especially in a public case like that right. You know you just automatically project your expectations of the regulation, and this, of course, is. I think, what the media picks up on the mode. And, of course like, I think, one of the biggest names in this case at the time was that seek race and yeah She's got some like great one liners about this case, but she says that essentially she wanted to crucify Scott, because he quote rub me the wrong way, so he has all all of the media, essentially just saying that he's guilty and judging his every single move, because they don't feel like he's acting appropriately. But at this point, Lacey family is still really supportive of Scott. They have his back. They every press conference there, mean by his side and they're, really trying to get police to finally see because it

still they think she could still be out there at this point now I have give you a little back story of what's going on at the time you know, while we have this big case going on little crimes, don't stop so around the same time, the people who lived across the street from the Peterson actually had reported a robbery. They were away for Christmas and when they came back, their place had been broken into an and they report this. So the name actually reports seeing people in the front yard of the house that was broken into and she drives by. They give her the sting I and she doesn't actually report it at the time. But it's once she knows the robbery she let the police know what she saw and the police actually within a couple of days, actually apprehend the guys who are responsible for this rob

three, but when they go to rest, then the first thing that these guys say isn't anything about the robbery without being prompted or ask the first thing they say. Is you know I had nothing to do with that pregnant girl, whoa yeah little suspicious and the way that they said that the robber went down these guys who are talking to police, and they say you know we had to say in their house. We took the safe out and put it on the front lawn and after the police talk to them for a couple of days. Is they actually make an announcement on December 30th again? These are like going on simultaneously these two cases, but no one's really can

bring them, and the police, whether intentional or unintentional, are really keeping them totally separate cases. But they make an announcement at a press conference that these guys had been apprehended case has been solved for this robbery and that the robbery took place on the 26th. Wait. A minute. On the 26th. Yes, when there was media crawling all up and down the street right. So this is what is like really sketchy about this they're saying that the way that the robber and what they did is they took the safe at the house. They put the safe on the front lawn while they scoured the rest of the house and the police are so yeah. You did this on the twenty six, but there's people from the media that are like yeah, that's not possible because there were. You know 10s of twenty thirty people outside of the Peterson Home, which is again directly across the

street and he's like if there were people robbing a home even if they looked inconspicuous if they put a safe on the front yard. At least one person is going to wreck nice this that so the people who were there day even again them even the media that wants to crucify him if they were the ones on site. They are saying there's, no way that this went down on the twenty six and they really believe it went down on the 24th so interesting right the same day that they decide to. Oh we're. Putting case closed on this that very day, they had gotten a call from Amber Frey an amber Frey again. Anyone who knows a smidgen about this case knows that really she is the case. This turned everything upside down right, so they get a call from her that she knew Scott

We've been having an affair with Scott, she didn't know he was married and the police actually convince her that they're going to how her like be there spy, and so they go go to Radioshack again, two thousand and two they go to Radioshack and buy a recorder. An from the 30th on Amber is recording all of her calls with Scott now again at this time. There is a me the frenzy surrounding the case. I remember hearing reports and I don't know if you do of the house smelling like bleach there was that mop and bucket, which they again never said directly, but they would talk about it. Smelling like bleach within and show pictures of the mop and bucket. There was no smell of bleach in the house. There was zero evidence, this search that they did on the 26th.

We didn't find a speck of blood. They didn't find a smell of bleach other than the floor being mopped, which Scott said Lacey did there wasn't like evidence of crazy, clean up and the only evidence they found was when they searched his work shed. They found a single piece of Lacey's hair in a pair of pliers that were rusty, shut. This isn't to me at least a huge deal, because I mean it's his wife, like I shed like a dog I was gonna say like I I will. Show up on many many crime scenes, if all it takes, is a strand of my hair right right and so This is also something, though, that Al Brocchini, the lead, detective, actually gets in some trouble for later in the trial. Is this dude flat out like altered his reports and kind of lied because he didn't like

he in his mind, Scott did it and he was trying to hide this whole life from Lacey. So what he writes in his report is that your lace He had never been to the marina. She had never been to his work bench. She didn't even know he owned a boat or knew about this place, but there were actually reports of people who had seen lacey at his workshop or at the marina like a day before or so, and then Albertini basically has to admit like yeah, I ate hey. I had heard that from witnesses, but I basically neglected to put it in the file. I know I know and to jump back to Amber so. When she called police again something that I think I didn't realize and that the media sure didn't like make a good job of pointing out is, I thought they. Had this like long affair error and they were super involved, they had been dating like five weeks before Lacey does

appeared and they saw her. I mean little. I think these are like four times and she had introduced to him like from a coworker heat. The coworker thought he was single annual Scotts telling her he's looking for the one she has no clue he's married an he tells her that he's going to Europe for the holidays, because right before he tells her this on December, ninth. He basically drops a bombshell on her and says you know this. Is I lied to you? I was married, but I lost my wife and this is going to be the first Christmas that I spent, without Her- and he says you know, I'm going to Europe, but when I get back from Europe, we can really like talk more about this, and I can explain to you, like my ring, name for for lying and I'm just super vulnerable, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit the whole. I lost my wife line,

and I know that's exactly what he said 'cause. I remember it and it's just super eerie to me. I lost my wife. She didn't die, she's, not missing. Obviously she wasn't missing yet, but I lost her yeah well and this girl is living under a Gd Rock because no joke she like in Lacey goes missing on the 24th. It's pretty much. We were literally going to war with Iraq, but, like all the news, talking about with Scott Peterson. No I'd only remember she didn't see any of it, but until the third and that's me right when she found out her friend, showed her a newspaper article and she likes sees a fuzzy, grainy picture of Scott and it's like he looks familiar and then he's like. Oh he's, also fertilizer sales who also lives in Modesto, an like. Finally, girl puts the pieces together, and so she calls the Police-

that's when they may make the whole deal, and- and this is when, like things get, I feel like so shady so on. The thirty first Amber is now working with police. Scott has told her that he is half in Europe somewhere for the new year. He was spending new year's eve in Paris, New Year's eve in Paris. How cute so on new year's eve in the real world and not Scotts Fantasy worlds. His wife is still missing. An her family holds a candlelight vigil for her, and two really big things happen here that I think have played huge into the trial and the conviction and the media's conviction of him one

is: there is a picture of him like holding a candle at this vigil like Damn near laughing Anne. This, of course, was the picture that was posted on every magazine, every newspaper every website, and they basically said he wife has been missing for like a week. He isn't morning at all he's not talking at all and he's just sitting here like acting like this is a joke, an his family says like that's, not true at all. Of course, like they pick the one picture, that's going to give them the best headlines and she- and his sister said that he had was talking to nice or something at the time and had had a sweet moment with his knees and he was smiling at her or because of her or something like that, and of course they snap, the picture. Then and really I mean if you're selling magazines, that's the picture. That's going to get you a ton of buys one hundred percent, so they

not that an maybe that by itself would have been like yeah fishy, but not so much, but on top of that, what we get later is right before he goes to get on stage with her family as they make a plea for lazy to come home or for someone who has had to let her go. We get this call to amber. That is just like it may My heart drop into my butt, is that how was your new year at good? now they came out of their hour that night yeah. It is very good,

very funny, that's good! I'm glad you guys decided to go out who are definitely. I can never remember your friends name. I know Jeff that you would say. Ok, you are not doing a great job at convincing me. This guy did not do it. I know I mean that call is ridiculous. To be fair, I get I'm not trying to convince you that he's not a slimeball, because this dude is gross, but just just keep listening. So that's new year's eve again. No one knows this at the time except for Amber and the police and obviously Scott, but at this time Lacey's family is still full e Bing by Scott. No one knows at this point that he is even had an affair. Has a girlfriend he's just kind of the hut. Still the husband, that's not acting like everyone thinks he should act, but the police have nothing all they have. Are these phone calls to Amber, but the more phone calls they get, the less they even try

and look at anything else. I mean the more their focus on Scott, and while this is all going on, Scott is basically just being tried through the media and here's another example. There is a girl name, Kristen D, Smart, who went missing years before and the media like goes on a rampage and gets like a bee in their bonnet and decide like. Oh, my god, you know Scott went to college the same place that she went missing. What if he did this? What if he is this serial killer? Who is just like at fucking women and so for awhile That's all that was in the news. Is everyone linking Scott to this other girl's disappearance and it ends up being that there is zero connection whatsoever. Scott had nothing to do with the police say he has nothing to do with it, but again it's one of those. Things where the media was gung HO to report it, and it was all they want to talk about as soon as he's not convicted or not

when associated with it officially forget it, never happened. Yeah. They just pretend like they never said anything and it's Dave can't even be bothered to report like by the way he's been cleared because that doesn't fit into the narrative that they are creating on January. Sixth, we, Another really interesting call to Amber so Scott actually confesses to Amber that he is Scott Peterson and his wife is missing, and I can't figure out why he would do this and I think we've got a clip of the call we can play. If it happened in society, I'm going to hurt you, I don't want.

I tell you this summer, but but I'm sure it's why talking called me. Why? What's up? What are you talking about? You've been watching the news. Obviously I have I've been traveling fly. Has I tried you that I've been traveling? Ok, I see she disappeared that people Christmas contact two weeks, I've been in Modesto with her family line, searching for,

ok, disappeared and no one knows ok, and I can tell you more because paper people in india- and I I'm not ok, there are amazing sky. Are you listening You come too early in December and told me that you would last you wise. What was that about thanks alive? what sure I wear she's alive. Where now I know I hi this is the hardest. I want her size,

you need to protect yourself in the media. Ok, even watching it or you haven't immediate I've been telling everyone that I had something to do with her disappear for the past. Twenty seven, ok, fine media- and I just checked out watching train book protectors. So, but I can't figure out you know. As far as knows Amber is you know dumb as a box has no idea what's going on and he openly confesses to her that this is the truth. I'm really married, I'm Scott Peterson, I'm in the news. Why would he do that? I mean, if she didn't already know, I can't figure out what the point of confessing to her is. If he wasn't, if he's not going to call and confess like- and I did all of it like- why just confess this little piece- if he was, I just can't, do you have any.

I used to really a question because, like like, you said like she has no. She hasn't really questioned him on it, yet she hasn't approached him about it. She just been going along with, like I am dating Scott Peterson, who has nothing to do with this other Scott Peterson, whose Metlife is missing And for him to call her just kind of out of the blue and confess like that does seem odd right, so he confesses to her. Again she already knows. What's up, though, but she's like wins the award for best amateur actress and as we go on so the case then brakes on January 14th, because the police is jig is up. The national Enquirer gets their hands on the famous picture. We

scene of Scott and Amber like canoodling together at a Christmas party me and they actually call police and give them a heads up and say: hey like we have this picture like a we'd love to get you to confirm that it's true a police are never going to do that, but, like just letting you know we're going to post it. So I don't know if being nice and saying, like you know, this is going to fuck up your investigation heads up yeah. This might be the only like noble thing. National inquirer has ever done right, so they the police, decide like. Ok, we can't let Lacey's family find out this way. We have to tell

them, so they pull her mom and her stepped out in her brother and give them a heads up of what's been going on that they've known since the 30th they've been recording all of the calls Scott does have a girlfriend. Everything is true. These pictures are going to come out and basically, what the National Enquire reporting is reporting is true when they tell the family. It's reported that the first thing that her mother said as is, why did he have to kill her so immediately? This change is that for the family as well, they go from being totally team sky to one hundred percent. Thinking that he did it and on the twenty fourth, the police hold a press conference and I feel like this is one of the most infamous, if not the most infamous press conference. In this case, where an

never comes out and talks about their affair. Definitely I remember this so clearly, I met Scott Peterson November 20th I was introduced to him. I was told he was not married. We did have a romantic relationship after Amber Douban and does this press conference again? It's like this this super weird reaction from Scott, he actually calls Amber and again in the press. Hershey at no point says, like I've, been a spy, so Scott calls her and tells her that he's proud of her for coming forward. We, which is again super freaking, weird bizarre, like some of his actions just come out of field for me. So again I can't figure out where he's coming from, because, if he was being slimy like no part of

angry at her no part of him, it feels betrayed he's just like proud of her for doing the right thing and like you know people can say whatever they want, that he was acting. He had no idea that their conversations were being recorded. So he EI. I don't believe he'd be putting on a show. So again, just one of those things that it's still all super slimy, but nothing he does makes sense to me after this goes down. Scott feels like he has to give an interview. He hasn't spoken out at any point and he thinks that people aren't look For lacey anymore, and over and over and over again, he just says like that is my goal. I don't want people to focus on me and I tried staying out of the limelight, but that's making it worse. So if people want to talk to me I'll talk to them, but you've got to stop looking at me or if you want to look at me, keep doing that, but I have to look for lacey while you're doing it, because I feel, like all people are doing right now, is looking at me and that's not helping right, so he sits down with a couple of like

local reporters and even like Diane Sawyer, like the big guns and does an interview and nothing good, comes from this interview. He kind of lies even more. He says that he now her lied about telling cops about the affair with Amber, he says he was up front with them, but this I can't tell Scott believes himself or, if he's lying again, because when him this family talk about this later they say you know the police never asked him. If he had a girlfriend, he never lied about having a girlfriend. They asked if their marriage was good and Scott still loved Lacey an their marriage was good. He also tells Diane Sawyer at that. Lacey knew about the affair and it wasn't a secret from her. So he said that She wasn't ok with it, but she wasn't going to break up their marriage over it either an a

and no one knows how true this is, because we can't ask Lacey, and you would think that if she knew about it. He would be ending it or she would have, had him end it or something, but there really was no. Breaking the affair it went right on until she went missing. So is the media and Diane. So here everyone is super suspicious of this. Then he does the thing that absolutely like put him in his grave. He is talking to Diane Sawyer talking about how he loves lacey, and he says she was I mean, is amazing the past tense? It's so incriminating. At that point,

everyone in America stop listening. No, I can't tell you what he said after that. I don't think anyone can tell you what he said after that, I'm pretty sure it daily everyone cut off the interview and just started giving commentary on the fact that he's already talking about his wife in the past tense when she's been gone for one month February, comes and goes Laci. Her due date passes. She still missing. Absolutely nothing happens in MID March. The case is going so stale police have no leads, but again, even in this time where they are moving the case forward, they still aren't tracking down other leads to me. This would have been a good time if the Scott angle wasn't panning out, are you least we're getting anything new and it wasn't enough to convict him. It wasn't up to take him to trial

at least spend your time looking at the other angles. Ok, who saw Lacey when did they see or how often did they see or how many sites do we have like? Is this robbery case really a robbery case, but now right 'cause at some point in time they had a tip line open right, but it just kind of goes stale. That is until something happens that changes the entire trajectory of the investigation, but you're going to have to wait until next week to find out what happened. On the second part of our Scott Peterson Special. If you guys want to connect with us on social media, bring you want to tell everyone

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