The U.S. Navy attempted to develop a shark attack repellant after many sailors were attacked during WWII. The first step was the formation of a "Shark Research Panel," which led to what we have today: the International Shark Attack File. When someone is attacked by a shark, anywhere in the world, the investigation closely resembles police work. "We're not reinventing the wheel. There's been no shortage of trial and error that went into police investigations and what we do follows," says George Burgess, the world's foremost shark attack investigator.
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As we're going down to the beach, my parents decided to take my sister and I to you know one of those
beach shops with trinkets and just funds.
And I remember picking out this new bathing suit and was bright, orange and red, and I was so excited to wear it that day.
My dad got this kind of dorky, but Cute Fishermans, Fisherman's hat.
One of those floppy ones and we're just really excited to go to the beach,
This is Avery Olier check when she was nine, she and her parents when
a family reunion, one slash four of July weekend in Wrightsville Beach, NC so
When we get down there, my family there's about forty of us. You know
aunts and uncles and second cousins and people. I've never met before or hadn't seen in a long time, and so we have this big family. Ten.
Set up on the beach if
I lived in northern California, where the water is very cold
it's almost all year. So this was going to be
the first time really
swimming in a warm ocean where she could go in past her ankles, and that day the current was
really strong. It was running parallel to the beach. So, as you know, our family group was swimming,
you would get pushed down the beach further away from the family tent and where people are watching us and so
every like thirty minutes, or so
somebody my dad or an uncle would call all of us kids out of the water, and we would walk back up the beach and start swimming in front of
Our family was around four.
It had. This really strange
feeling that something was going to happen. Something weird and just
really uneasy in and all day had been having a great time and so
later in the day after five o'clock.
My cousin, and I there we had draw
did further away from the group just because the current had been pulling us
further down the shore, and so my dad started
signaling to us to get out of the water, and we were so
and we couldn't really hear what he was saying. But we you know he had been doing
all day
are the waters we could just be in front of the family and so
my cousin and I and she's ten, and I'm nine we're getting,
out of the water. I just get hit
yeah hard from behind on my right side, I was only in about waist deep water and I
instantly knew that it was a shark. I can't people ask me all the time to describe what it feels like, and the only thing I've been able to say is it feels like
exactly like it looks like it would feel, and I
instantly knew. I was being attacked.
And I needed to do something, and so
The shark comes up again
behind me and grab the back of my leg and starts
dragging me basically
out out further to the ocean, and I just
reach around and start punch
I'm down with my right hand
as hard as I could to try to get it off
and my arm slipped into its mouth a little bit
right, but you're nine and your punching this
you're punching the shark. I was,
I was trying to hit it as hard as I absolutely could so I was hitting
thank forcing my arm down in behind me to hit to hit behind me to get it off of my leg,
I had all of these teeth marks and
apes and my arm is bloody up to May for my pinky all the way down to halfway down my forearm and at that
after I was hitting it. It like. I
and my dad, ran into the water and got me out, and he actually took his brand new,
fisherman's hat off his head and he clamped
until my legs to just try to hold everything in 'cause. There is ten minutes and skin and blood
everywhere, and he just ran up the beach with me to her family tent and when you
put me down and then the line
it's like one of those lounge chairs under our our family tent. Then that's when all the lifeguards came over and started.
Doing compression wraps on my leg and
Oh, my gosh. I will never forget this. Like sixteen year old surfer, lifeguard dude was just like.
Does she have all her toes and
just remember just oh, my gosh. You know
At that point I hadn't even considered that I might not have my toes. You know I didn't. I couldn't really see my leg at that point. They wrapped it up and they checked, and thankfully I do. I do still have all my toes
my poor mother came by she. She had been going to the bathroom at the time, so she missed. She missed
in a scene, the actual attack, but just came back to the aftermath and the blood everywhere, and she just with hysterical, just start screen
what happened, what happened and we
you know, we all knew what happened. It was pretty pretty obvious. What had happened, how big was the actual
right. So on my foot, you can clearly see the shape of it. Came from the side, so you can clearly see the shape of a c like a like a bite mark and you can see the teeth
and really well on the top and the bottom of my foot an up my leg.
Little bit and then
where it grabs the on the back is where it a ripped out, tendons
and a lot of skin an ambulance took her to cape fear, hospital, the orthopedic surgeon on call. Was it one slash four of July
barbecue. He rushed to the hospital and every
was in surgery for almost two hours. Her father says she got more than eighty stitches. They kept her overnight for observation and then Rachel police showed up
and asked to look at her wounds to people came and they foot extensively photographed. My shark moons
with like rulers and just asked me for a
skip, Shannon took
nation on you know the temperature of the water
that day and the weather
in a time and that sort of thing-
and I didn't realize that that's how shark attacks are treated, did they
find the offending shark? So why
I was on the beach before I had been taking to the hospital they did send lifeguards to go, look to see if they could
and the shark, and it was as soon as I was out of the water it was gone.
Never found it
Avery was attacked in two thousand and two one of six,
One hundred sixty one attacks around the world from the year two thousand to two thousand and nine last year. So eighty eight shark attacks, five of which were fatal.
That's a very slightly from the average in the preceding five years.
Scientist tribute and increase in attacks over the decades to the fact that
four of us are getting into the ocean. Water sports have become much more popular and attacks often happen on holiday weekends, when millions of people are so
come in shark attack, a teenage boy recovering in the hospital tonight. Officials are investigating two suspected shark attacks in Melbourne, Beach FL, they believe the show
targeted two beachgoers, including a ten year old girl, the first nine one, one call at four hundred and twelve pm Sunday afternoon, an hour and a half later, a second victim two miles
down the beach in all of it. Coming just days
after another shark attack thirty miles away new. This morning, a popular beach on the big island of Hawaii is closed after a shark attack is the latest in a number of shocking shark attacks across the country. But the thing is,
it can be hard to say for sure how often people are to
attacked by sharks. In some cases,
including Avery's, a shark attack is reported as the fish bite the
after Avery was attacked. Her family woke up to read about
themselves in the newspaper. The headline was fish attacks child at Beach, Lydon UNDE
stand they'd seen the shark when they got home to California. There was a letter waiting for them from a man, they didn't know the
the requested photographs of Avery's wounds and contained a list of questions about what happened
what clothes they were wearing, what good colors they might be, what kind of activities were being done by them or others nearby and so forth?
and so there's literally hundreds of set questions that we ask
of the window
and just like in a police investigation. When you get enough information, you can piece the
to the thing together and get an accurate appraisal of how and why the attack occured this
George Burgess, he
sharkbite investigator, who studied thousands of attacks, including studying so called SIRI,
killer sharks. For thirty years he headed,
something called the international shark attack file.
I'm Phoebe judge. This is criminal. After looking at the photographs of Avery's injuries, George Burgess said an email to the family.
He wrote. I am sorry that you were not told the truth about your daughter's injuries. There's absolutely! No doubt
The shark was involved, the marks are classic shark injuries. The rights
Beach police chief, John Kerry, later said
that it was never the town's intention to keep Avery's attack a secret.
Any communities local
folks, namely the politicians.
Don't wanna under the word shark and beach together in one sentence, be
Is there worried about LOS of
of a visitors or tourism, and so sometimes
the easiest route is to not acknowledge something. Is shark and to blame it on something else? The shock
tack file was launched after world war? Two, when there are said to be a lot of shark attacks,
on US naval officers in nineteen, forty five, the
Us Naval, ship Indianapolis, was sunk by a japanese submarine. Nine hundred men
made it into the water alive. They would wait for days for rescue the first night. Sharks went afk,
the corpses of sailors had already died and then moved on to the living, though,
were attracted to the blood in the water and the sailors movements serve.
I first tried to get away from the blood, but they had nowhere to escape by some estimates. One hundred and fifty men were killed by sharks
The Office of Naval research thought they had to do something they hope to develop and were willing to pay for some kind of affective shark repellent, but first they had to collect data. The shark attack file was created with the goal of documenting attacks on a global historical basis, going all the way back.
To the 1500s, when George Burgess joined the project in one thousand nine hundred and eighty eight, he renamed it
The international shark attack file today there based at the University of Florida just like to play
we want to get to the the
this, is as quickly as possible because, as as time
goes on their their memories of the events or their perceptions of the events, change and and were
human. We tend to listen to people around us, and so we
getting to connect the dots ourselves in our heads. Even if it's wrong, and so what we think was an
sometimes becomes our evaluation of. We look very carefully at the environmental factors that were were present at the time
The attack, the the salinity that water temperature, the tides, the moon phase, that's what kind of bathing suit you are wearing. Do you have tattoos? Were you wearing nail polish? What about
ring. Are you menstruating? Will you will you
did you urinate on the water things like that, that might have been a tractor to shark. Do you try and keep track of sharks that may be a bit she will attacker.
You know it's it's it's highly unusual. At the risk of offending summits,
I suspected to be the human equivalent would be
how many murders occur in the United States.
And how many of them are done by serial killers and very small for
Image of them would be done by serial killers most of the merge
So the United States are one off events, but he has been called in to investigate a few
about five or six years ago. There were a series of bytes in
Red Sea off the coast of of Egypt,
and I went over there
but during the mists of that to help the egyptian government try to cope with the problem and
investigation there suggested that
one individual shark was involved in at least three or so of those are four of those incidents, because we actually had photograph
pick evidence of the attacking shark, and so we could follow it by the basis of its coloration.
Prep pattern. Another marks on his body, so that was
an absolute proven one which is no longer speculation, habitual, it
Packers may be rare, but they get a lot of attention.
The movie jaws was Billy,
have to be loosely inspired by a series of attacks during the summer,
one thousand nine hundred and sixteen off the coast of New Jersey. Five people were attacked. Newspaper accounts referred to the shark as a c
Wolf, an the jersey, Maneater Pray
Woodrow Wilson got involved and agreed to give
federal aid to drive away all the ferocious man eating sharks, which have been making pray of bathers eventually, an eight foot, great white shark,
captured human remains were found in its stomach when are
well most often attacked. We find that
in studying shark attacks that the most the pattern
we see are reflective.
Of human utilization patterns rather than shark natural behavior, in other words, to get
a shark attack. The obvious is that you have to have a shark at a huge
together in the water. At the same time, when do we as humans go into the water most of the
we go in daylight hours.
And even predictably, within daylight hours from certain times to certain time. So we see that most shark attacks occur from about
one thousand o'clock in the morning to about four hundred o'clock in the afternoon and
We even see that they'll be declines in shark attacks. At certain hours, so between
twelve and one or twelve and two in the afternoon, there's a decline in shark attacks,
wide? Are the sharks suddenly not hungry at that hour? Now is because we as humans are and
well that's time when we go get our lunch, and so there's less people in the water. So most attacks do occur in daylight hours.
Even though for many species of sharks, the preferred time for them to
to go feeding is at dusk and dawn and during
time hours when they have a competitive advantage over their prey and and and can sense their prey in the darkness.
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round. An estimated hundred million sharks are killed by commercial fishing. Every year we
means around eleven thousand die every hour, but George burns
just in his colleagues at the international shark attack file understand that people are still really scared
and try to reassure us with data on how much
the likely we are to be injured by pretty much anything else. Home improvement equipment falling off a bicycle, for instance in New York City in nineteen, eighty seven
more than eight thousand people were bitten by dogs and more than one thousand five hundred people were bitten by other people. Do you have any tips for people I mean we can acknowledge that that the chance of being attacked by a
work is like the chance of getting struck by lightning, for I mean it's very rare, but but what are some of the things that people could be could help in the event.
Well, it is there there's lots of things we can do to reduce the risk of shark attack. First of all, we can get in
standing of where shark attacks tend to be more common. So, for instance,
in in the United States and in Florida,
We have more attacks in any or other places in the country and in fact, anywhere more in the world,
so new Smyrna Beach is been dubbed the shark attack capital of the world. So, if you're really concerned about your chances of being,
Bitten by a shark, you don't go into the water in New Smyrna Beach with a surfboard, so you know that's a matter of choice. Now the attacks are bites that
are there continue at the same rate that we've seen in years past, because the surfers which have
knowledge of that? This information choose to disregard it because they would rather go surfing and take their
fences and go ahead and keep going to doing their thing, so just to pay
is on how worried you are as an individual entering the seat. When you consider the letter
hundreds of millions of people that enter the the water each year and billion
the human hours being spent in the water each year. To think that only six people
go into the water, but don't come back out because of sharks, you get a pretty good feel for what
your odds, are as an individual of of dying in the mouth of a shark and shark. It's pretty much much infinitesimal, but that said
if that's high. On your mind,
Do you want to go to the the YMCA Pool instead? Is it a good idea to try to punch a shark, that's trying to attack you
first of all, if you see a shark acting aggressively, you should try to
out of the water, if you can get out of the water that solves the problem and end
So my general recommendation for anyone just to get out if you're, in a situation that you
the capability to do so? In other words, if your scuba diving, you can go down
and to the bottom and look for some sort of structure to hide against her behind. Generally speaking, if you
you can do that, sharks will forget about you and move on, but if you're not in Scituate
or you can get out of the water or hide, then you
stuck in the MID water column, and you had to deal with it and if a shark actually approaches my recommendation is to be aggressive to a shark. They respect side.
Is in power, so show them how big you are by giving them a full body view of yourself and
certainly I think it's positive to act aggressively towards them. If one comes close, the tip of the snout is sensitive and sharks, and so, if you can give
Bob to the the snout most of the times. They'll veer off. It's best to do that. If you
scan with an inanimate object. If you got something other than your hand, because
keep in mind the nose is located just a little north of the mouths of you, you miss he going to be put in your
and into the mouth of the shark,
I do like to say, I
you know punch,
dark in the face- and I survived- I live- I lived through a shark attack, but I owe
I really dislike the idea of the ocean for other people. I just think that
sharks are doing what they're supposed to do and people get in the way. I
don't think sharks are malicious or intend to attack people.
So many people are terrified of sharks. Can you can you understand that? Why are we so terrified of sharks? And we know that shark attacks are actually rather rare? Well, of course,
as much as we as brilliant as we are and is
culture as we are, and all that we're still animals- and
He still probably
we have
maybe some genetic hard wiring in there for
wanting to look over our shoulder from our caveman days
when they were lions and bears and tigers and things that they couldn't could do us harm on our on a regular basis. So there may be a just a little bit of that, still an innocent and of course, I
I make the parallel to
how we probably all were his kids when we went to bed and the lights went out, and there was that
unknown in the in the room, the monster
for the bed or in the closet,
and we see that monster whenever we enter the sea because we bob at the water surface-
and we don't know what's underneath- is George per
this retired in November, but he
working on shark attacks writing papers using the data he's collected over the years and he still gets caught
calls from police department's all over the world asking for his help with their investigations
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