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Back and gets back up to the seats, but on the police then I came and grabbed her in arrested her for trust, passing so Morgan. I Where is my father and says hey, I've been arrested for trespassing. I need some help here. Can can you represent me? My daggers will sure my dad's defense for more than I was well. Let me go back a little again. I had a big, so rest. If you want to call it the kissing bandit whose real name is Morganna Roberts, so the reporter that she got her bras custom made by the same people who made the domes for stadiums when she was arrested in nineteen. Eighty five for kissing, Nolan Ryan. She called attorney Richard Haynes. This is his son Slade, so my dad's defense for her was that her breasts were so heavy. It caused her to fall over onto the field and therefore

he thought well I'm already on the field. Why not kiss Nolan Ryan in it was kind of a funny laughing stock of the courthouse, because they were like what kind of differences that Mister Haynes and goes well. That's my defense and I'm sticking to it and she was found not guilty because her chest was so heavy that it topple with her over onto the field popular over on the field, and- and I thought that was a brilliant defense- I mean that's. The thing I keep reading about these days sense is that your father came up within so many different ways and there almost there almost too good. I mean there just unbelievable the stuff that he would come up with right, He was very good off. The fly I mean impromptu he would come up with some of the best defense is that you would never ever think of Richard Hands better known by his nickname, racehorse. Haynes is really considered to be one of the most exceptional.

Criminal defense lawyers, the countries ever seen here. Oh, he described his approach say you sue me because you claim my dog bit you. This is my defense. My dog is invite and second, my dog was tide up that night. Third, I don't believe you really got bid and forth I don't have a dog. He was comfortable. He was in his own skin. He didn't try to act like a lawyer. He was just Richard Racehorse, Haynes, a person talk, into regular people. This is Dallas attorney Charla Aldous to peace with resourcing's and says she's, never seen anything like him. He was fearless I've tried and probably over two hundred cases. Two hundred and fifty out of last count. You can always smell fear on the other side, if, if they're not completely comfortable in their skin and they're, not comfortable in the courtroom with rice worse when he walked,

through the doors of the courtroom. You knew that man was where he was supposed to be in life. He would own the room, a real Texas accent, yet not as bad as mine thankfully for him but yeah, he did he. He was a. He was a down home boy, he never put on airs- and I remember one night, my favorite things and I have stolen this from him and have done it that he would say two witnesses on the stand in it. So simple, but it was so gripping, when he would do it. Let's say a Mister Smith was testifying and he would say: Mister Smith, have you ever up to the very moment in your life and just the way he said it. You think this is the most important question and answer the entire trial It was just a suspenseful way that he would word the questions in with uh pauses where they needed to be and the anticipation and the voice. This town, and it was just it was beautiful in white.

I learned so much from just having the opportunity to try that case with him. It matter if you had two pennies to rub together or one million dollars now he'd like guys with nine dollars, show it. But if he thought you the underdog. He only had two pennies. He was still take your case and still give you the best defense that you can get. He represented all kinds of people, some very controversial people. His job was the same. No matter who it was this, I can't permit myself the luxury of having it matter to me whether they're guilty or not. He said over and over people told us that to watch him in the courtroom was like watching magic he started practicing law in Texas in one thousand nine hundred and fifty six back. Then it was common for port rooms to have spittoons for chewing tobacco, and the time you try to case he tripped over one,

the jury laughed, but he thought also sympathized they could see was nervous. He won the case the next time he went to court. He tripped over the spittoon on purpose. He won again for two years. He kept this up until finally, a judge told him to knock it off, there's nothing. He wouldn't do he once how the cattle prod against his skin he cross examined an empty chair on the witness stand. He debated Nae pulling his hand to the jury box and the only reason he didn't do it was because he be sure he wouldn't start crying when he was asked if he considered himself the best crib attorney in Texas. He said it's my belief that I am, and I wonder why you restrict it to Texas. According to one judge, he was a charming little jerk, I'm Phoebe judge.

This is criminal. It always come in the court room with the cowboy boots and and usually with a white cowboy hat. If you see a lot of photos of him from these exiting the courtroom help it that white, cowboy hat out and borders would be interviewing, and that was probably the biggest signature items that he would have Besides his monster size, leather briefcase, I might have one legal pad in it, but he would. He would carry that in the courthouse to make the jury, the judge the case got all this. These got all this paperwork, and here you can write to pull it out. I mean that that seems like a big look to me, the white hat and boots, but maybe in Texas, just new

normal hobby in Texas and spins pretty normal, but for him that allowed the younger, attorneys and you'll see it. They start. Wearing cowboy bitch and David come in with cowboy hats on everybody wanted to be like him. Yes, they did. So I started working for a racehorse Haynes two days after I got out of high school and I was in awe sober up, private Vestigator a law clerk in an associate attorney over that period of time, and it was better edge, patient, then I got in law, school, Houston attorney Chris Tritico. I walked into this this scene of more then you could ever imagine, and the famous people walk through the door that wanted to meet Richard and hire him and hire the firm it was. It was amazing in Richard was bigger than life larger than life. He he was gregarious, he was, he was funny and top of the field racehorse Haynes is Bae.

Is known for his defense of two very high profile clients. The first was Houston play sick, surgeon, John Hill, in one thousand, nine hundred and sixty nine John Hills, wife thirty, eight year old, Joan Hill sudden. Became very ill. Her husband, John drove her to the hospital Jones Mother, was also in the car and afterwards would report the John was driving very slowly. She said it was almost like he didn't want to get there. He fiddled with cassette tapes and played very loud, classical music Joan Robertson Hill got sick in John Hill. Instead of taking her to one of the hospitals that he had privileges at took her to a small hospital over off of Hwy, fifty nine here in Houston and she died of what today they would call basically toxic shock syndrome back in the early

70s. They didn't have a name for this. They don't know what they don't know. What killed her. Eventually, they indicted Doctor John Hill for murdering his wife, accusing him of injecting her with toxins that he they claimed. He was growing at home and killed her some said he was injecting the toxins into our desserts. Specifically declares racehorse. Haynes was hired to represent John Dr John Hill. In the murder trial, it was a hung, jury, so John Hill went home. He left a few doors down from Jones Parents, Rail Ash Robinson who were convinced. John Hill had killed their daughter. Before the case could be retried. Someone knocked on the door of John Hills Mansion. He opened it and was shot and killed right there on his front. Steps for the rest of

The ash Robinson's life, it was assumed that he had hired a hitman to kill Doctor John Hill it was never proven in NASH, Robinson died without ever answering the questions. So no one ever found out the case became the subject of a best selling book called blood and money which was made into a movie murder in Texas, star

they're, a faucet and Andy Griffith. When I started at eighteen years old, I was one of the things I first was asked to do was deliver something over to the Hill mansion, which was the most exciting thing I forgot to do at eighteen years old, because I just read the book in the I don't know who gave the stuff too. I was just as to deliver some over that I did and I wanted so much to ask to go in, but I I I was. I was more professional. This second client put resource Haynes on the National map was billionaire T Cullen, Davis Sing, a billion dollars in the 70s was a whole whole lot of money and he spent it freely. Cullen Davis was in the middle of a messy divorce from his wife Priscilla, who was said to be having an affair. One night someone broke into their house and shot Priscilla

the man she was having an affair with and Priscilla twelve year old daughter, Priscilla survived and told the police everything her husband, color Davis was charged with capital murder. There was a lot of evidence against him to witnesses, placed him at the scene of the crime. With a gun, racehorse, Haynes had a plan. He focused on discrediting Priscilla. He described her as promiscuous the Queen Bee of sex parties, a frequent drug user. He showed a poster size photograph of her with one of her boyfriends, a guy wearing nothing. But a Christmas stocking. One report said racehorse. Haynes made her out

Be totally unreliable, a quote want in floozy, whose testimony wasn't worth the time it took to hear it. He was heavily criticized in the press for his approach. The prosecutor said racehorse. Haynes came up, Priscilla Davis like a ball of butcher knives, but it worked. It was a hung, jury and that was in Fort worth tried. It again, I believe in Amarillo TX on a change of venue and got a not guilty on the case. Then, as they were, wrapping up the divorce Cullen was a q used of making a threat to the judge. Davis was frustrated that his divorce was taking so long. He thought he was being a is to be too much alimony and he was suspected of hiring a hitman to kill the judge that

Hitman went to the FBI and the FBI actually got the judge to cover himself in fake blood and get into the trunk of a car pose for photographs, which were then shown to Colin Davis, suggesting that the hit he'd ordered had been carried out and that the judge was. Cullen apparently, apparently is alleged to paid the money to the hit man. They arrested him for attempted capital. Murder of the judge tried Richard tried that case and got an acquittal of that on that case, somehow, in spite of so much evidence, resource Haynes made Cullen Davis a sympathetic character. He said the FBI had botched the investigation. He told the jury if they worked.

Are you you'd fire come to think of it? They do work for you. Probably some of the best criminal defense work, you'll ever see was winning that case. The pictures of this judge pretending to be dead in that trunk or is gray because you'll receive, and they wouldn't dead, certainly, look that way, really good piece of work. In that case an those two cases back to back over for several years in the 70s put Richard at the very, very top of the criminal defense field in the United States. These are these are probably his best known cases. Those are his best known cases but, in my opinion, not his best work. There is a case in Texas, called PAM Fielder fielder versus state tenth builder was married to a doctor in Texas and like the S and m type stuff, and he would take PAM down to what we call the dungeon and a man and they're in their house in

for her in and have her torture. Him drive nails through private parts of his body, drive nails to pry parts of her body, all with some of the worst stuff you've ever seen, PAM Theater said she'd initially consented to what she called bondage and discipline games with her husband, but it escalated and she didn't want to do it anymore. She said her husband, drugged her with demerol to force her to participate, In July of nineteen eighty one PAM fielder shot her husband, firing seven rounds with a forty five caliber semi automatic pistol walk through the door one day she expected that he would torture. Her she pulled a gun out and shot him, but he had not said on this day that he they was going to take her to the dungeon. She just thought it would racehorse Haynes argued that the abuse she had suffered had to be

Taking into consideration from the house and tried to call an expert to testify that her state of mind at the time she killed. Him was that she is going to get injured and she had no choice but to killing the judge refused to allow that jury charge, PAM Fielder was convicted, but on appeal in one thousand nine hundred and eighty eight, the conviction was reversed on appeal that Texas Court of criminal appeals for the first time recognized the battered woman's defense in Texas, and it is now a statute in Texas, and it was right source changes, ingenuity inventiveness and his Billy. From the system that a woman ought to be able to put on

evidence of that. She's been battered that can created that law in Texas. That still stands today in that, in my opinion, is the best work he's ever done. Racehorse Haynes like to tell a story about this case about an elderly lady who came to the courthouse every single day to watch the trial, even though she had no relationship to any of the parties. Finally, a report ask her what she was doing there and she replied. Are you kidding? We've got whips and chains and resource hands we'll be right. Back

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who wants to hire racehorse Haynes in your in the news all the time by the highest profile, people in the country for years it's. I've never seen anything like it and we will never see another lawyer like that, like yesterday it was it was. It was a big deal him coming to Sherman. The population is about thirty thousand, the entire county, probably one hundred thousand. So you heard people talk talking about it right, source Haynes is coming to town racehorse, Haynes is coming to town, and I was really excited about meeting him and it's right when the new Volkswagen beetles had come out and I bought a red one. I'll, never forget it and delivered to me, while we're in the middle of trial an I said, rice come out, you got to see my car watch. This watch this and hit the button to so how the doors automatically unlocked and

He was driving about a thirty year old, suburban, all, beat up and everything and had cowboy boots on. He said: hey Charla watch this. He went over and kicked the front tire. He said dang it just a second. Kicked it again and he said damn it usually. When I do that the doors opened it was just so that was that was so typical of him. He was so humble, but so relatable. Let's see was he ever just quiet and contemplate? If, or was he he always up to a to a trick to an antic. What was interesting is the racehorse that I ah in trial and in public and the race horse that I observed during the night when we're getting ready for the neck J and they were totally different people? Some of the there was quite a few lawyers on the team and everybody was, you know, working round the clock

and talking and everything I would watch rice though he would go to a private area by himself and would read every single piece of paper that he needed to read for the next day. He was always so very prepared, so he didn't go just on his God. Given talent, he was very, very prepared every day. Will you describe what he was like in the courtroom in the courtroom? The thing that that distinguished Richard from from lawyers that, from every lawyer, I've ever seen is he was he's a gentleman. He we had a command of the language inability to keep control over his own emotions better than most people. I have ever seen in my life murder trial. We were trying when I was a young lawyer. I horrible murder case in Richard

has a kid on the stand whose and I would to the murder Ann I told a lie while on direct in Richard caught it I didn't catch it. I don't think anyone the courtroom caught it, but Richard did and he started asking this young man questions and he goes. He asked him cause just for about an hour and a half and he was slowly asking he'd asked question and he would ask a question the same question but with uh slightly different slice of the question he went on for an hour and a half this way in a big, long round circle, slicing, slicing, slicing, slicing the whole courtroom is thinking what the hell is this guy doing, until he got all the way around that circle, and he asked that last question. He sliced it one more time. I set last question in the kid rock back in his chair and he took his classes off, and Richard said I got you did not in the kids said. Yes, sir, you did

he said I got young man because you're taking liberties with the truth, aren't you and the prosecutor obj, did rightist young man said yes, I am it the most brilliant cross. Examination I've ever seen in Nobody got that that kid had lied into a rich finished that hour and a half circle, and that the way he handled everything he never raised his voice to this kid Ebay did him along until he had him so bad boxed in that, when it only dawned on the kid what he had done to him. He just rocked in his chair and realized he had been caught, it was. It was brilliant and very few lawyers. Have the patience oh wait that long to box somebody in and that's what Richard did every time. We just have a joke about this, but it we could reuse staples. He would reuse them. If you saw paper clips in the trash when he walk around in his office, he

baby yell at the associate saying what are you doing? That's a penny sitting there in that trash basket. Even when it came to going to watch I one of his favorite lunches and have a joke about it. He would go to Jack in the box and get the two tacos for zero dollars and ninety nine cents- and I was like dad, got me the absolutely worst lunch You could possibly have I didn't care, he loved his tacos, and what about your mother? How did he meet your mother They met their high school sweethearts. At the end? They were married for sixty two years when it was time for racehorse Haynes to retire. His wife Naomi went to Chris Tritico's office and asked for his help. She say Richard cannot work anymore. I need you to take over the practice and close it down and take over the rain maining cases- and I said his Richard ok with this, and she said he will be. The work seemed to be so important to him. Well, it was

he Richard understood what he had done in what he was and, and he I don't think that he knew anything else to be and which is why I'm, unfortunately, he worked until we. We just had to drag him out of the courtroom I don't think he knew what to do with himself resource Haynes died April, 20th, two thousand and seventeen in Trinity, TX short after celebrating his 90th birthday, he practiced law for more than fifty years. Richard believed it deeply in and what he was doing in the court, room and and he'd be believed it so much that he gave up a big part of his life and and I'll give you a classic story about that one night one time we were in trial on on the murder case. I was telling you about my wife

was due to have our second child in literally do any men. This was at a time before cell phones were had been had come out. I process judge, and I said my wife's due to have a baby any minute, and I gave number of the coordinator, and if I need to leave she's just going to come, get me I'm just going to get up and walk out. He said no problem, you don't have to say anything I'll, understand just leave and I sit down at council. And Richard turned around. He said you know when my as child was born. I was in a trial- and I didn't leave until after final argument- not missed the birth before he passed, He told me one time that that one of his great regrets was that he didn't spend as much time as I did with my kids. Is he he wished? He had an was the biggest compliment that he could have ever given me was that

that. He appreciated what I had done with my kids and he wished he had a I I took that is greatest compliment. He ever gave me there's an old profile in the Abilene reporter NEWS called Erica reputation doesn't bother racehorse, Haynes it with him saying I guess the bottom line is who you yourself would hire if you were in trouble. If I was in trouble hire me Criminalist produced by Lawrence for Needy Wilson and me audio mix by Rob buyers, Julie,

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