You listening to Carmody Central. I am worried that two thousand and twenty from probably said, rose World news headquarters in New York. This is the daily with revenue years. You know, I would guess tonight's creates the landmark sixteen nineteen project about slavery in Amerika for the New York times Nicole had a job with joy, so until nights episode, why would junior kids of black history months it turns out traffic? Is all in your mind and Nancy Pelosi test

a new one. So, let's catch up on today's headlines, let's kick it off with the democratic primary. What was meant to be a one day, events in Iowa has turned into a four day should show of confusion only about three quarters of the ballots in so we still don't know who efficiently one, but stands. It's a close race between Bernie Sanders, the world's youngest old man, and he Buddha judge the world's oldest young man. What, regardless of how it ends? No one is around to give a victory speech, because the candidates have already moved on today, all of the top candidate are in New Hampshire, ahead of the primary next week and as you can see right there in your screen, they are holding events all around the state right now. To some reason I wore There have a little bit of trouble counting votes, but I am

here have shot. I know it will be able to count. Your vote sought a lecture and this is what I love about. Bernie Sanders. He does not give a damn because he spent a year sucking up to Iowa and then five minutes after he's left Hilary roasting bass. Just like I want to talk about the ninety nine percent, of people in Iowa who have no idea what the dog out Bernie does this will every state you know as soon as these onto the net. Primary he's in the vat and next week, like great to be out of New Hampshire, was I call a dirty mouth, just what I will say. This has been a lot of trouble, but I think Democrats should consider themselves lucky that they get to work on all the boating kings in these simple white states like Iowa in New Hampshire, because a ship wouldn't fly when in South Carolina, you try and tell an old black woman who vote isn't going through because of a broken up

should be like all your app is broken. That's funny because you asked about to be broken to all and speaking of technology gone wrong. Ever since traffic gaps like ways came along, people have complained that the neighborhoods, a pact with cars, to find the quickest route will now one artists in Berlin might have found a solution artist in Germany has found a way to create fake traffic jams on Google maps. He pulled around ninety nine smart. He got a little red wagon that any pull them up and down an empty street outside Google's Berlin headquarters, and it took about an hour, but eventually the Google MAPS at thought that big buses roadside moving very very slowly. They put a little red line on their that's. A look out as a traffic problem while that is genius, a german artists figured out that if you walk down the street with a bunch of phones, Google thinks there's a giant traffic jam on,

block, which was a slick move by him, but he's Verizon bill is gonna, bankrupting I'll. Take that seriously. Ninety nine phones is a lot of phones, even if it is for our project. It always makes me think that this is just a guy who had to come up with an excuse after he's gone from Boston and for having a bunch of sight, chick burner, phones and she was like so many forms like not no baby. It's for an odd project. You see, I put them in my sexual economic wheelbarrow than I am make traffic, but this just goes to show that you can't always trust these acts like. I can't tell you how many times disappointed that one might uber arrived. It wasn't spinning uncontrollably, never now a lot of people. A lot of people were pissed off at the sky for disrupting traffic. But personally I support this artist, because if there's one thing, I've learned from history its that, when a German is trying to become an artist

Who help them become an hour before they become something else so yeah so that german artist, I say, Dinah coins is wonder by beta Nemo's India, Politic, Dunk, moving on to health news. Remember how in school you had to do that fitness test in p. What made you do, pushups, while everyone watched it, was a nightmare willing in California that nightmare might. Finally, governor gave a new someone's to haul mandatory physical fitness tests for California, students because kids are getting bullied over them. Tests required four fifths. Seventh and ninth greater. They measure everything from strength to a robot capacity critics. The test contribute to body, shaming and other types of bullying. Yes, California, governor wants to suspend Jim Class fitness tests in order to bullying, because we all know will ease, body. Shame you without the metrics,

It's a weird logic. Is that what the bullies there's gonna, be there like old man? I want to give you what you so bad, but I just don't have the data man, but I I do like where the government is coming from our kids in California shouldn't be bodies and school. I can only happen when they try break into Hollywood's. That's when that counts. Think there are better ways to get kids into being physically fit like, for instance, in Africa. What we do is we have these things called lions and there are very effective motivational drew, are thus headlines. This move on top story impeachment its democracies version of sending back a meal, and today we reached the serious finale of this president's first impact So, let's check on the latest developments in another instalment of the magical, wonderful road to impeach,

That's probably presidential election today was the final day in the impeachment trial of Donald Jumble, liar trump and no big surprise. He was acquitted by the Republican Run Senate, which was never don't boo vote. Think impeachment was no matter what new, whether he's going this. This is like a movie where you can guess what was going to happen with I've been watching. You know like Titanic: ok to ship, that's going to sink or Sophie's choice. Some lady has to decide which do you ve got a bone. I get it, I get it so without come. Never doubt the only real drama today was whether any Republicans would dare vote against Ultra and it turns out, there was one man with bind us full of courage,

because there Mitt Romney emotionally announced on the Senate floor very will break round, and vote to convict and remove president drop President asked of foreign government to investigate is political rival. The president's purpose was personal and political. Accordingly, the as it is guilty of an appalling abuse of public trust. With my vote I will tell my children and their children that I did my duty to the best of my ability, believing that my country expected of me That is shocking, that rocking who would have thought that the most bad ass republican in the Senate end up being a moment. Dude named myths, and I got to say myths. Proved everyone wrong there,

said you was radical as a glass of skimmed milk, but they were wrong with your whole milk, my man, oh no plan, and by the way I, like our midst, said that he voted this way so that he could tell his children. He did the right thing. That's such a wide people things no, why people love explaining themselves to their children? I couldn't look my son in the eye. If I didn't do the right thing, leopards don't give a shit, they represent our boy. You better, not look me in the major Ahmad do whatever we do. Other than Romney. Another republican senator who was considered on the fence, was also about. Tromp was Susan columns of main, but she decided that we don't need to throw trump out, because she said he's already been scared straight. There are some senators who could have cross party lines. Senator Susan Collins will not be one of them. I'm vote

to a question. I believe that the president has learned from this case. What do you believe the President has learned the precedent, has been in page, that's a pretty big glass than now During a tv anchors lunch at the White House. Yesterday Trump responded to questions about Collins comments, saying he had done nothing wrong, and that is conversation with Ukraine's President quote was perfect CALL Donald Trump would be the hottest person to defend in courts. If you like your honor. My client has learned his No, I haven't his days of selling drugs or over, who earns go because Clearly, Trump hasn't learned a lesson I have anything. He's but he can do whatever he wants and Republicans will let him get away with it, but first been on a shake their heads. So basically thanks to send it Republicans. Trump is now

we run through laws like he's got a super Mario Invisibility STAR: that's all you can do is invisible, accept trumpets, more powerful than. Mario cause in this case the turtles on his side facing Basically present from its author is completely off the hook, and you know that he's gonna let loose tonight, man he's gonna eat fifty burgers bang opponents. And then you can do something crazy. I won't trump. I won't trumpets doing that Joker dance down Courthouse steps, the rest of the country is still focused on the fall out from Trump State of the union speech last night and an end is not so much what was in his speech. But the fall out has been about what speaking Nancy Pelosi did to the speech and Republicans on happy a bitter Nancy Pelosi whipping up the present state of the union speech, one of the most classless things ever done in the hills. Real state of the union. I never seen anybody acts so childish in my life. A spoil patch

child essentially picking her nose in front of the american people not just the numbers. Your ripping up. Those are people, anti piracy, shredding the memory of Kalen Mueller shredding Tusky a hundred euro husky airmen shredding a little to your all that policy ripping The stories of these Americans yeah that is so true, my friends when Nancy Pelosi tore up a copy of Trump speech. Wasn't just ripping up a speech. She was ripping up the memory of the people in that speech, because people are gone, That's how people works like one time, a dinner. The waiter ripped up my receipt and then hungry again now: movement,

can argue that Nancy was right or wrong to tear up from speech, but but I'm sorry as these people, these people to people that support Trump have no business complaining about breaches of decorum. They do too little the king of that, should he pulls the dick and decorum common act like you now? Allow me, I can't believe you did. This is kind of funny A funny, though, that Republicans was so upset with Nancy's lack of decorum, especially because Trump used the very same speech to bestow America's just civilian honour, the presidential metal of freedom on conservative commentator, rush Limbaugh, a man who, to put it mildly, is not known for being last I fell all often looks like a game between the bloody grips. What does that make her? eventually swat right now

the women's movement special working behind it so near get within a on the end Why they, I can now when I hear chinese or japanese sounds like all the same word t kick doktor, TAT, Genji and don't fall down front door Duma here and all around and shaking and is purely an act, if any race of people should not guilty about slavery, its caucasians rush rush member might be racist, sexist homophobic and more people with disabilities, but at least he treats paper with respect. So maybe that was Nancy policies, real mistake, it's not that she was disrespectful says she wasn't disrespectful enough. She may be of Nancy interrupted from speech with a region.

Asian accent than a couple of casual Edwards. Instead of earning everyone's anger, she would have earned our own medal of freedom. We'll be right back forming Jason Chief, it's never in my life. I never seen anybody so childish in my life. I might hence for dishonored the moment to have her stand up and tear up that speech really dishonored the moment, Laura England for this story, when policies ripping at this speech friend of mine, just told me like that. That's policy ripping up the stories of these Americans and Kelly and Conway for shredding children, Nancy, blowsy, shredding the memory of Kalen Mueller shredding. I little to your own,

its memory, which is officially black history months and we are celebrating all month with Roy, would Junior honouring the unsung heroes of black history in another episode of cp time welcome to see tat. The only show it's for the culture today will be discussing black explores. I know what a lot of people think of explores the only thing of white people like Christopher Columbus Launcelot. What at twitchy lady, the drive, the MAGIC school bus? but what many people don't know is that black people have also been instrumental in discovering new lands. Just don't get any of the credit. I call I discovered the buggy. No one gave me great covered in spite us, and I was just trying to get em all

our first explore as a man by the name of Matthew, hence the first man reach the north pole in nineteen o eight. It was an incredible feet, not just because he discovered the north pole, but also because he was a black man. Wasn't afraid of go in here to head against went on the place I would want to discover is my holding the Missouri will the heat is all another black explorer who doesn't merely get the credit. He does What's an enslaved man named York in one thousand, eight hundred and four, he joined Lewis and Clark on their famous expedition across North America, making him the first black man to travel across the? U DOT S Continent York was a vital part of the expedition. In fact he was so

trust it? He was even given his own gun, which was a risky move on Lewis and Clark Spot. Given us leave a gun. You know what you call a slave with a gun. Stop interested that after the expedition, Europe requested his freedom from clock, but clock denied, because he realized that without York he would just be another white do lost in the force pitch. And finally, black people weren't just tagging along with white people on these expeditions. They were also making history themselves like Abu Bakr II, the ruler of the Mali Empire and one thousand three hundred and eleven Abu Bakari set off on a expedition Westwood. Eventually he landed in Brazil. Al Bukhari met the native tribes there and made peace with them

even ended up Marian achieves door, a quest that many men know all too well travelling to distant lands for new booty. Looking girls too familiar so the next time you think about explorers, remember not to just give credit to white men who discovered places people already live Columbus, but also give credit to those of the more melanin persuasion who have explored the world. Like my uncle people who had ninety ninety travelled across the country searching for the dairy queen with the best Oreo Blizzard haven't seen him since my everyday items uncle people, but each one of these we go mission, people

and I'm back. That's all the time we have today. I'm really would you know this has been said remember before the culture about it. It was some hot to balance out the return. Everybody override back. Welcome back to the daily show. Guest tonight is an award winning reporter for the New York Times magazine and creator of the one thousand six hundred and nineteen project which commemorates the year of the first enslaved Africans, were brought to the colony of Virginia, and it examines the ways the four hundred year legacy of slavery continues to shape

Erica. Please welcome Nicole Hannah Jones welcomes evidential. Thank you, I'm cool. Regulations on creating and working with a group of people on a project that has gone on to become more than just a moment, but rather a rethinking of America's history. Let's start with the! Why? Behind this I mean history seems like it has been written, so why try and write it again Well, history has been written, but it's been written to tell us a certain story and the sixteen nineteen project is trying to refrain that story, and it's really about the ongoing legacy of slavery. Been taught that slavery was a long time ago get over it with,

something nearly every black person is country here at some point and the one thousand six hundred and nineteen project is really saying that slavery was so foundation onto American is institutions that we are still Frame from legacy now is exploring the many ways that we that we still are it's interesting that you ve chosen LEO sixteen nineteen because many people would say, but this was before America existed in a. Why not start as founding and then not include the years before when this was a colony in Virginia and Britain were involved. So why do you that point- and why do you argue more importantly, that on the fourteenth, you show of wonders anniversary of this fateful moment? It is finally time to tell a story truthfully. Yes, so it's funny, because this is also the foreigner, then here, the Mayflower it. No one argues that we should learn about the Mayflower, because that predates the United States and know that that was an important moment. I would argue, the White Lion, which was a ship that arrived the year earlier. Carrying enslaved Africans was far more important to the american story. Then one thousand six hundred and twenty, then the Mayflower,

no America hadn't get formed, but Virginia was the first colony our institutions would come out of the thirteen colony. Our legal system are cultural system, our political system and certainly the anti black racism that we still struggle with is born at that moment, when you, when you start off in this gesine! Does it there's a really beautiful passage in the beginning when you talk about your personal journey and and how you should. Filled with your relationship with America. As a country and its really beautiful tail. You tell about growing up You know on the land which so many people have died and toiled as as enslaved people. You also talk about how your father was a proud american and how you didn't understand how he could be proud to be american when America seemed to be against him in spite of everything that he did. Yes, how did you reconcile little or did working through this project? Changeover? one on how to be american all who, how not to be american yeah, absolutely working on the project changed my perspective on my father,

I opened it he's talking about how my dad, who was born in apartheid, Mississippi of Flu, this flag and our front yard on this giant, flagpole, and he was one of the only black people. I knew flag in their yard. I was deeply embarrassed by that, but, as I started researching for this product to my essay is really about how black Americans have had this pivotal role of actually turning the United States into a democracy. I got that he understood something that I didn't, that no one has a right to take away our citizenship and our right to think of ourselves as American, because so much of what a black people have done is what is built this very country that we get to live in today. What are you? What do you mean specifically when you shaver, because that was that was an idea that I dont think I had fully thought about before. I read this motion and was the concept that America's foundation was a lie in that it it was a group of promises that once that have fulfilled in old, suitable peep

of color and two women in many respects and and what you arguments magazine is that black people basically have the job of making it a truth. What what? What did you mean by that? Absolutely so and Thomas Jefferson Rights, those famous an english words? We hold these truths to be self, that all men are created equal. He owns two hundred and thirty human beings at that time, including some of his own family members, and he understands that one fifth of the popular some will enjoy none of those rights and liberties. So we are founded on a hypocrisy on a paradox. A black people read those words and said we're gonna believe that these words are true and apply to us and fight again and again. We them fighting at the revolution, the first person to die for this. She was a black me man and Christmas attics who wasn't free. We see that happening with abolitionists movement, largely led by black Americans. We see that happening at the civil war, with the reconstruction amendments and, of course, the civil rights movement which brings the franchise to large segments of America for the four

time either we we said we were founded as a democratic republic, but most Americans could not vote at the time of the constitution, but thanks largely to black resistance of freedom struggles. We are close to a multiracial democracy, as we ve ever been it's it's. It's really beautiful story in the EP in that it told not through the lens of anger, but rather through the lens of collecting stories. You know it's it's Fact goes a little angry, a little angry that it doesn't. It doesn't feel they had got so much as a faint like untruth, yeah. What what what it has sparked, though, is, is a fight over history and how they histories told death. You know, Once this magazine came out there, there were many historians who you know came after you and said no. This is this Incorrect, the prime reason that a man I sought. Its independence from Britain was not because they wanted to maintain slavery. It was because of taxation without representation, it wasn't the primary cause. Why do you think that such a

distance to slavery being one of the primary causes of America breaking away from Britain We need to believe as a country that our founding was pure, that, yes, we know we had some troubles, including holding five hundred thousand people in bondage, but their large We were a nation and found it to be exceptional in these majestic idea. And that our founders, though complicated men were men who were righteous, but when you argue that are founders were many of them very hypocritical and that you can't just simply overlook the fact that every wasn't motivation in some of the colony just taxation was a motivation, but also the ability to keep me a lot of money off of human bonded. That is very unsettling not just to the average American, but to historians who have seen their job as protecting that founding narrative, the differences you know when your black in this country, you don't have the luxury of pretending that that history didn't exist. And what that

she has done, is really marginalized. Our story when really the story of black people and slavery is central to the United States. When you, when you worked foolish project, there are new peace, of information, you discovered that there are stories that you find would never told that need to be told- and I know you can't write about- everything, but I was interested in whether or not you would think that other countries were involved in slavery, get off easier than the United States, because the one thing they did differently who America as we know it, is that they should have outsource slavery. You know, if you think about whether it was the Eric as Spain or many of these other colonial nations. Their slaves were yet countries, and then they left. Those countries would like we're done with slavery, but they also have to deal with the people they enslaved, whereas as an interesting relationship where you have to deal with the people because they are still here, should not just not just not to feel sorry. For America, but do they there's also a reckoning that should happen in this way in Europe. Maybe office or other cologne

powers need to have a reckoning and reckoning also needs to happen on the continent of Africa, but I think the fundamental difference- there's two yes slavery occurred in the bounds of the country that would become America rights, but also of those colonial hours America's the only country that was founded on the idea of individual rights in liberty, interests that was founded on the idea of God, give it in alien, all right. I'm nuts. With other european, I mean he's we're monarchies. They weren't founded on idea that every person had equal rights, but we were so that hypocrisy really matters, and, of course I argue that that hypocrisy is why we have struggled so much to get over and address the issue of slavery, because it forces us to acknowledge. This lie at our founding. Before you go one of the main questions, many p may have, and you see this unfortunately, all too often is people saying why do you have to keep trudging this up

we just move on- has been four hundred years caught. We just move on. What are you hope would be sparked by the conversations that come from magazine the delved into slavery like this. What what do you want? Some since at home and says they're gonna call, I'm I'm why tonight. I have nothing to do with this, and I don't know what you want me to do. What would you hope people take away? That's question. Let me just say for the record: nobody wants to get over slavery more than black folks. It is up to our benefit, rightly at the fact that our nation can get over. Slavery, has not benefited black people for a single day, but that's the problem. We ve never dealt with the harm that was done on forty. Is old and my father was born into a Mississippi wear black people could involve black people, couldn't use public facilities. That was all, with the legal we're not far removed from this past at all, and there has never been any effort to redress that harms. So what I hope that people will take from the

Gesine, every single story in the magazine starts with America today, shows how these things about american life that you think are unrelated to slavery actually are, and I hope I confronting that truth. Maybe we can finally start to repair the harm that was done and then find start to live up to be the country of ideals to protection job to learn more about this beautiful amazing story, golden mealtime, dot, com, slash, sixteen nineteen? That's what I'm dot com slash! Sixteen ninety Nicole Hannah Jones, everybody

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