Dave Ramsey & Dr. John Delony discuss:
- How can I invest 15% while also saving for a new car?
- Jason & Lindsay pay off $205k in 22 months!
- How much should I spend on a home?
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China has that dream, but change their family tree to go. You know I'm never going to do that
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Welcome back of the Ramsay show Andy Ramsay Doktor John D, lonely wrench personality is mine, host launch day on the free sale of his new book own. Your past change. Your future Tyler is going to start off this hour in bench.
Your new Hampshire, I Tyler
Commodore amnesia
thanks for taking my call. Could I trimmer was up
the situation. You bought a house,
in Denver Colorado back in May of two thousand thirteen for three hundred two and eighty three thousand dollars
balance or meanings about you hundred and twenty carrying.
and be moved. Our plan was to keep it as an air BNP, short term. Lentil cumber change your
OZ, where you can't have it here
or term residents are vital. If it's not your primary residents. We now live in New Hampshire
currently transition to the mental scheme, which is thirty days or more, and it's very
that's all entered outright. Ninety eight percent of the time work.
usually only probably we grow short
thirty thousand dollars? We met twenty k, but after the ten
mortgage pay, the bills. My question to you is: should
shall today, because I know
What are we gonna? Let you out of five
five year, rule for primary Russian actually did lived there for two consecutive years.
A current mortgage in New Hampshire,
three hundred and thirty thousand dollars. I think I do
you oughta undulation carried out. Are you
I am thirty, seven, ok
as you know, probably from if you listen to show for thirty seconds the way we try to answer questions. If I woke up in your shoes, knowing what I now having done.
Stupid, but things I have done in my life. What what I
If I woke up in your situation, ok,
couple of observations,
number one. This thing tat
a lot of your energy.
time in your emotions, for twenty Graham number, two
it is across the United States on the other side of the world,
for three, you are not living in New Hampshire and should do yourself. I wanna go by a corporate rental in Denver.
You became a corporate rental landlord by default, not by strategy or design, not by intention outwitting agreed a breeding. Is there a number for the probably is
all that to say
because I love real estate and as much as you have maximized this property outnumber forward by the capital gains issue urine.
again of how much on this.
I would say the words to capture challenger random numbers for me if we were to shall destroy them.
Obligated to pay depreciation. I'd be five k and if we serve
good. I want you twenty two. We would all strictly five thousand now for you,
up to half a million dollars of gain? Is tax? Free
when your personal residents, if you have
have a valet, the two and five rule, which is what you're talking about show any in that
as I may is, when you have violate that you ve rented it more than three of the last five right show on one at that
point show you care the house if you sold it right now. What's it worth now maturing section
two thousand and six hundred fifty thousand pay off your home mortgage. That's number five
I wish to reason why I listed five reasons. Just now. Why would sell it? I dont care
good reason to keep it open,
and when I guess about jack you I do have about three hundred and fifty thousand dollars in stock options from a company I worked for. Would you,
also an option to shall, because I'm not very
divided now, just one company stocks of courage would wish you had that those facts. Would you saw the stock just pay off your primary residents to keep her rent
as regards our stock to get more diversified- and I would say, the rental had cell above that right and then, if you want to buy and do some kind of a rental. Let's do it in your neighborhood there. Ok and if you want to fool,
the type of rent or you been fooling worth of your enamored?
They are being bay, the corporate rental scene, but
You described, I mean you're bringing in eighty and netting twenty, which
after mortgage and everything show
this. Not our fund here lots.
Fun. For me remaining eighty and most of it stage, that's right, that's more fun! On you know. Three.
Six hundred thousand dollars you're, making a twenty thousand dollar rate of return
for his cell in this house and having no house payment in forty five days would put that's real canal and or having the money for the stocks.
By another and pay for it
a unique layers closer to EU and pay cash for it. Like that,
I'm,
If I'm? U I'm out of the property in Denver. But those are my five reasons and how to have to think through come about pro
list cons literally all thing you draw on down the mill, the page, and I start looking at it in that thing.
That, through and generally that list
Currently, forty well different items on the West have different weights
you know, you could have one item on their that offsets the other fourteen. On the other side, like I just liked
shut up.
Kay. That's an ok, I'm DR honor, but that there is a lot of reasons to be out of this, and I think you already knew that you want me to say it out. Loud teach me about the two and five rule. If you owner
your personal residence and you move out to start renting it and you rent it more than three of the last five years over two years.
Then you lose your capital gains exemption on your personal residence. You
the personal resonant you can make up to have me large profit married falling
currently no taxes
I thought when you sold it end if he sells it as a rental after these rented it for too long a loses that sort it out.
Thirty, five thousand dollars and extra taxes every wedged or may. If you sell your premier residence, yet zero taxes to have me in dollars gain
its role. It into your knelt house arose from the seventh allow cow that rules been gone for almost twenty years
Yeah you're! U blot out! Make too
forty thousand single Father
Married profit don't have to touch while going
You know. I really wonder whether he had carried out today,
and you know had roared and another property, you knock at the door
thirty one. You have to do anything. We're not that's because
class about his personal residents until you rent it-
who long out of them
five years and the new loser that exemption
no longer treatise personal residents now street is selling rental property
taxes on all the game, that's how that works
Josh's weathers Josh's in Charlotte North Carolina Josh. What's up tiger is going to talk to you
I'm a former any kids, a great start today,
I wanted to ask you guys, William, our wife are in babies that three b we just finish ban all our amendments. We fund and we got a small project that we gotta do before
can start. Investing money
he question for you before I got into the baby steps. I saw a video of yours years ago. Talking about horrible
and somehow you shouldn't you have spent so much money anger or instead you should pay yourself that car payments so that you can a cash for cars for life,
question, as was wondering if this principle still applies in the babies
It may have been an outdated type, a thing and the reason I am asking is because if we apply the principle that the other
four hundred dollars a month? Let me my wife or putting towards our next cars in the town, a lot. If you didn't, have they carping that's, but the problem is, as we have a huge income. So if we can
to do that. Once we start investing we're gonna have a hard time hearing that fifteen percent
yeah you do we not. Rather they answered very simple. Ok, I loved a video, so free car videos called and on the, but but I did a pie
job of communicating in the video. I come here
all the math and urged a fabulous legged as one of my gift, but about what I didn't communicate was that it's not a principle by which we tell you to actually go do things I
merely trying- and I moved to illustrate-
the idea that,
fuel, save and invest money rather than pay payments. You will end up wealthy and the point being that, if you took
The the illustration of that point was that if you
best a car payment. Instead of paying a car
pretty soon the money
of the investments alone will buy you a car every so often, but the concept is not should not be,
trapped within the subject of car, the concept?
generally stay out of debt in vast and then you ve got money
The concept is also no borrow money for cars, on borrow money for ain't, that right,
payments that are paying yourself payments. You can you know you, you don't become wildly when you got yourself. Payment should become well, but if it's not outdated, illustration is still fabulous, functional, proud, I did it, but I didn't do a good job of saying. This is what this means is not you should actually do it. What do you think citizens is that you should actually save rather than be India Doktor John Bologna Ramsay personality best selling author? Is my co host today in the lobby of Ramsay solutions on, but that breach stage, Jason and Lindsey or where the spade guys or you re Harry. You welcome. Welcome or do you guys live Oklahoma City
Oh! I love accomplish, any thanks for being with us.
thank you all the way over to do that free scream, how much of you paid off one hundred and five thousand dollars alone, that egg twenty two months good for you
and your range of income during that time about ninety five thousand, while very good
does do for a living. I worked very hard.
Despite your kid in that I manage property for our church, ok, excellent, very good! So what kind?
that was your one hundred and five thousand dollar our mortgage.
Let's go a long way to go. You guys think you excellent excellent, excellent. So man, oh man, you pay off your Elsner relational, tells a story. What happened twenty two months ago,
actually way before that in high school we dated in high school and my parents
His graduation gave him your financial peace revisited book. Why would say he never read anything that wasn't required at school, so that was really like his first just
for enjoyment, voluntary reality of your future. In those give. U S required really yeah, and he was just here.
Right away and totally bought into everything and my dad
the new listener on your show now and he bought a ticket to go to one year live events, not
have told them, there's probably have, but at the time I was probably sixteen and did wasn't great at math
care about money really so far that points I expected it to not,
fine and it was so fine and I was so engaging and we just loved it and we
cited from the moment. We are married. That's what we want to do. We we ve, never had any deaths since we ve been married except a mortgage. It's been a dream, this whole time to pay it off, and so
so we had a goal that we want to have a pet off by tomorrow. Thirty and we were working towards that and had made significant progress, and then God told us
I've got some kids that don't have a home and we need you to take them in
the home for them, and so we had to change plans and use all of our house money
to buy beds and cars, and things like that, and so we had a little bit of a delay. But here
but here we are show how may catch that you adopt in that one Schwab. So we have six that we adopted within a total of about less than two years. We adopted six in war
observe was our group. There was through
doubling Cynthia three siblings all gangway
first group was the category.
Was born in your ear or yelling on your face or whatever he did. Yellow, ok,
need a mom and dad in Europe. Yet not so cool you, so you got a three and three grouping: young odorless, six, what age, what she age range
fifteen and there we actually just had a baby six months ago. So now,
Ok, I wanna get that with those in the middle of our zone January of
We just decided, you know what we were done
bring in babies home and we aren't moving anymore. We really want to get serious about
because we have had their mortgages that we had to try to tackle, but we had moved for different reasons,
in the middle of working really hard to pay this off, he was surprised baby ends.
That was kind of one of our moments, of
what do we do or working on pain of mortgage? How are we going to have a baby also end and we did God. We just go
chicken and God, where it all you ve never had any debt, never accept your more decree of that's incredible!
that's whether smiling so big. We have seven kids and B. That joy is really really are so happy to be here. How beggar come pick up on your been married? Thirteen years? Yes I'll, while outcome
so you're what thirty five I returned.
and eighty seven. Ok, all right, wow
The story goes on a long time and exactly right at six kids, then a kid and applied for house in fifteen years, british thinking too much
that's exactly right, Alfred, aha school, how school, sweetheart, and so the sea related ten would be twelve shady
This is like two thousand and six or something you went to that event. In Obama,
We have married into thousand six. We had went to one while we're dating before that. Our mark on minority has. She doesn't three as when he graduated in regiment almost twenty years ago,
we actually sell, Russ Carol do
God wrestler, firstly, member here that some lighted and on his fine horse the hardest part of the last two years, and I feel silly asking mother Father of them during a pandemic- was the hardest part of less a couple years to get this thing, move it keep it going
say saying no to them,
two things to say no to
He says, say no to me so that you can find out about right wages. Have you just have to say no to a lot of things and you can see us yet we can say yes whatever,
now received that first paycheck
Oh yeah depositary she'd, never mortgage payment. How does it ideal fills amazing?
It's all your money, it's all our money. We don't know anybody anything now,
the beautiful home, how the just showed it on Youtube while powerful
so cool you guys show, show the
idea that you can't do this biblical financial
stay out of debt and get out of that and live on a plan with a big family.
Watch, their proving that began Blakey. Do it if it adopt to adopt adoption is let us try to say why we're only fast you you can, you can do anything. You say your mind too, and that your team on
I have a goal, has been in front of you: stick your plan
we had no there's a picture of our youngest daughter, she's colored, a box me made a chart really
for them to feel
the team and for us to see it every day, and I told him it was just a motivating for me. Then they colored boxes off every month for, however many payments we made that month and so
How do you tell you told me by having a plan? Is a big deal? What else do you turn the key to getting your house
seven, whichever thirty five values.
Again, I would we say no to a lot of things and being a team. If you have a family, if you have kids and make your kids part of it, because I know you're going out,
biggest cheerleaders, but they truly are, and they loved filling a part of it, and it was
Our dream together started out as ours and became all of our schools
Ok, sticking to the budget, but end just you haven't again
and have it in front of you every day that you see.
You got seem so much
beyond your year show chill what was the biggest fight you had about money during this time,
I had to be what I can't they fight die. I don't care.
There were middle school. I think they would all we have a better life and I were full analyses it come in and like the matrix already, not again the way credit I think now. I wouldn't call it a fight, but I enjoy being able to say no. I can, by that
We don't have your leverage in all. We are used to always be when we pay off the mortgage, then we can get that now. I remind him we pencil
Well, I love laid well blade. I love the God, can whisper to you and you had the courage to be obedient,
men still get your goals and still give these kids. Are you guys are pretty amazing people
then you really are they are they are some lucky kiddos without a doubt and out?
Ok that moment, at more than anything else, can hear gods voicing obey, because that makes
For a great life makes for an credit.
time, I'm so proud of our market that get em all up and everybody wants to meet them and everyday version will do a lot of family trees year. Absolutely we ve got a copy, a baby steps millionaire for you, because that's a next step in your process.
The next chapter in your story- and you will be there without a doubt-
while I think you're already wealthy beyond measure Mackenzie, pretty amazing, pretty cool.
not copy a total money may go, or maybe you can give it to. Somebody will be the first book. They read this, not mandate
I love those stories. I love those stories so well that our aid
Jason M Lindsey and the tribe of seven love at our right, hotter and five thousand dollars paid up in twenty two months make a ninety five. Everything by that time are thirty five counted down. Let's era debt
three two one,
Now, that is a real, is wow. What a great story powerful this is. The Ramsay show not withdrawn the lonely rooms. Your personality is Michael host. Today, open phones, AAA eight to five five two to five Jeff is Weathers Jefferson, LOS Angeles Jeff. How are you
just great. Thank you so much for having the sharp what's up. Well,
I can't you on my evening, commutes you come on after Hannity and that I can do and I listened it. Then I really like what I hear of Shell. Thank you. You're welcome
do so. I'm fifty nine never
my primary residence coming
retirement and planning on purchasing returned.
At home, but
completely and despair.
Instead, the real estate world
and I want to treat my
Well, but not not come in.
we're close to getting into becoming house poor,
So I wonder during thy son on what to span,
and also how to pay for it
how much money do you have
point, five million. What you think
much building on a house of thinking.
five hundred, then, if you pay carry for that, as we know problem,
the diffusion of your two point, two point: five million
wherever the millionaires that we have studied
their homes from a wonder,
five million dollar net worth we started about ten thousand of them in the research that we ve done. The data tells us
typical millionaire.
Setting the one to five million network
where you said their home is somewhere around one quarter to one third of their net, worth ok
in order to show your you're right there I mean you know your ear exactly there and that range with
Maybe if you told me a mayor not start to flinch because I'd be like fifty build on it,
of your net worth or forty
percent of your network at flinch
start asking more questions. I'm not taking on a mortgage. You ve got the money.
And a half million at leisure, moving out of ally is not much of a property.
why I'm moving out? Ok, where you moving back,
the Arizona back to the growth in Scottsdale
go back to that. Still, you can. You can get impatient property. Therefore, have me? Ok, that's cool waned.
On the neighbourhood, your in all conscience grown as always, but I mean that's, that's a doable task. Would it
do for a living. Would always money come from
I am, I do lighting for films, traders.
working doing that all these years, Yonah Company here
by efficiently. Yes, but it's just me
literally just me, but but you do have to
analyze, interventional Yuri IRA you're, an independent
contractor in the film moral
essentially new saved your money all these years, or did you make it all in one lick? No, no!
she's been slow, slow, go the whole way out here to save
I think you'd know much of it. Did you inherit.
memory wise. You spend a little while I think one, eighty from my dad and underestimates that's. It Roca
sugar. You don't have this wealth because of an inherited money. You have it because you,
systematically saved it over a large number of years which,
again you you ve, got the model of the typical millionaire that,
studied I'm gonna, send you a copy. The book by bishops millionaires cause you are one
while our baby steps to get there, but you are a tip
millionaire and America today how ordinary people bill
Ordinary wealth, how you can do your enjoy the book? Could you'll go? Oh that's me, I'm in there and on behalf of
So pretty faces in the world. Thank you for being agreed
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planet all sounds very reasonable. Washington Dc Michael's on the line, a Michael. What's up,
guys links having an aperture Chirrup oil.
my wife. My and our sixty five thousand dollars in debt were now mostly credit card in some from a car
and right now, when we looked at our budget, would put an extortion and, at the end of the day we have more doing in the negative, then come then positive to spend our daily needs.
Good now we were come about along our financial risks.
Her features were supposed to do and where were so much on the negative that we can begin the positive opinion,
I have all your biggest observed, saving a thousand dollars, and I can do that because of the negative every month we'll do for a living.
I'm a ginger and my wife wants from the government, or do you take the elementary school? Ok,.
and so what your household income.
I'm here and watch the all in the car.
Seventeen thousand
Well, here's dressed in your voice and I have been there. You make good money, you live in an expensive area, show a hundred and then go that far itself:
like your bill, live on that, but we are in Washington DC each expensive.
how much is your house by a real,
now two thousand month, attire,
it's not what killing us where's, the rest, the money! Go you, your money, there's a leak. Some are much do all you die on the time
with regard to
past credit card usage. Only I'm only have forty thousand dollars and credit card there is
The payments between that each of them will be for about two hundred two hundred a month ago.
here, here's what I would do if I woke up in your shoes sounds like there is: you are being killed death by a thousand cuts.
Don't hear a major
hole in the side of the boat out here, lots a little leaks from it,
of doing budgets with people. That's what I hear. Ok
the show the Little league shone like this
you're gonna go and scorched earth thing international thing around cause, you're stuck
The good news is your sick and tired of being stock and hearing your voice. Your little
scared a little but desperate low, pissed off. That's a really good mix fortune
thanks guys you're gonna get radical shall ears.
mother. I must
tutoring business tomorrow, you can make fifty two hundred dollars an hour. Tutoring elementary school
the age in the afternoons? I've had people get out of that doing, tutoring
teachers. All the time I hear it all the time and theirs.
Much in need of people like you to build
do this and then you're
going to see the inside of a restaurant unless you're working there you gotta eat out too much. You spend two freaking much money outside the walls of your home.
You don't need to go on vacation period until you get this mess cleaned up. You need to get the credit cards out tonight.
Light, a candle and have a plastic surgery ceremony and chop them all
into little biddy stinking pieces, and you are never borrowing money again for anything in
with the extra income and the reduced out go. If you can have you got a big tax refund. Now, ok,
if you can't find some money in darling this thing down with all that you're gonna saw the car, but the car is not.
Problem it just might be a little bit of the solution.
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