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This is an unofficial transcript meant for reference. Accuracy is not guaranteed.
I welcome everybody. I think we're sort of at a point where it makes sense to issue a reminder and go through the data that there
still no actual evidence that the covert vaccines
proved in the United States have caused even one death, even a single death, and I had people yesterday sending me links
the Joe Rogan Sanjay Goop to interview, I had links to articles based on very reporting, and it just is a good time to refresh what is
truly known about the vaccines. Now this is not a segment about the rush,
vaccine. This is not a segment about the chinese vaccine and what they have or haven't done. I just don't have data that I can look at
I could say with any certitude that is,
reliable data, I'm not saying
nothing one way or the other about those vaccines. I just want to be clear that if you can email me things about the russian Maxine,
doing a segment here, specifically about the Pfizer vaccine
during a vaccine in the Johnson and Johnson Vaccines approved and available.
Here in the United States and on those there is no clear.
in whatsoever that they have caused any.
Deaths in the United States now this is different than have any vaccinated people died of Cove it last time, two months.
I did a similar segment with the data we had until then, and people wrote to me and said David,
sir! Actually they didn't say, sir, they were less polite. Is it
but you're lying? There are plenty of vaccinate
people that have die. That's different that,
The question here is: have the vaccines caused deaths? A couple of weeks ago we had,
very detailed report from the CDC with the latest data on adverse reactions to the vaccine. Now
important to remember. Just
because someone submitted a report of a death caused by the
Maxine to the bears system be a year. S doesn't mean
that someone actually died as a result of the vaccine. As the CDC reminds Us- and I encourage you- go through this
were linking to this. A cdc page, adverse events described on this page have been reported to the very
system. Damn vigours accepts reports of any adverse event following vaccination, that
as an even mean related to the vaccination and we'll talk about that in a second. Also remember that
after I'm sorry, the yes, the FDA requires that health care providers report deaths that take place after covert vaccination even
if the health care provider has no real reason to think that the death is related to the vaccine. It's just it happened after the vaccine. Sometimes people die weeks after the vaccine has nothing
do even with covert, never mind the vaccine. It's still supposed to be reported and then evaluated and again
Anybody can submit such a report as it says here, reports of adversity.
And to various following vaccination, including deaths due
not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. So what
has the CDC put out- and this is the latest report- it's a couple weeks old now about vaccine reactions and adverse events.
it's a matter of reading through these one by one and understanding them first and a full access after covered nineteen vaccination, it's rare its occurred in two.
Two five out of every million vaccinated-
people in the United States severely
Jake reactions, including Anna full access, can occur after any vaccination. If it occurs, vaccination providers can effectively and immediately treat the reaction. That's not unique to the cove advanced
in and it is extraordinarily rare and treatable. Ok,
thrombosis with thrombosis site opinion syndrome after the J and J vaccine is rare. As of October sixth,
eight days ago, more than
fifteen million doses of the John Jay vaccine were given. There have been
forty seven reports of people who got the vaccine and later develop Tt S thrombosis with thrombosis, opinion syndrome kind.
And traded among women under fifty years old, ok to date to confirmed
cases of Tt S have been reported with Madonna after three
hundred and eighty two million doses so extraordinarily rare.
We then have, as has been the case,
with other vaccines in the past, Gb Ascii, embrace syndrome and people who
J, J, very rare disorder,
fifteen million J J vaccines administered two hundred and twenty eight preliminary reports and
we have to be looked at more closely, typically men over fifty, so we talked about t t S
very rare, concentrated in women under fifty with the J J G Bs, very rare
and traded in men over fifty with J J, we
then heard of my own car Davis and Para Car Data's after covert nineteen very rare. Sixteen forty
reports invaders and again remember anybody can submit that and there's no question: there's a bandwagon effect of people spit the submitting submitting submitting you should look at with been submitted. There's one thousand six hundred and forty submitted among people under thirty
most cases reported particularly in at
recent males and young adults through follow up, including medical records, review
The CDC and FDA have confirmed about half nine hundred and twenty six reports and
the relationship to
vaccination is still being investigated and then reports,
deaths. This is a really important thing, because very
has received eighty six hundred reports of deaths, but
in linking them causally to the vaccine is not
something that has been done yet, when you give hundreds of millions of
people a vaccine by sheer.
Actuarial reality. The fact that people die people or go
to die in the days weeks and months after receiving a vaccine. That's supposed to be reported to there's, even if it's not believe to be because of the vaccine, and
there is every reason to believe there are lots of false reports, but it is really important that we go by
what the CDC
has assessed based on the data now, what about blood clots? That's another, one that we ve been hearing a little bit about. Researchers are still
at whether there is any connection between J J and a rare type of blood clots view
very few cases still being investigated, and once we have something more definitive on that, we will talk about it. So when you hear the talking point is
simply look at all of the deaths that have been reported. People talk about tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of deaths due to the facts.
The actual number of deaths reported to the system is eighty six hundred and there has been
oh confirmation that it is because of the vaccine, their deaths that took place after individuals were vaccinated. That's the data
I have no interest in hiding or exaggerating or downplaying anything that is. The data
as we know it right now and with time
will continue to get updated reports. We actually
got some really good economic news this morning that I want to talk about a little bit
we are now at the pandemic low for new unemployment claims. These are reported, weekly jobless, claim
another two hundred and ninety three thousand people filed new claims.
last week. That is the
new pandemic era low and we ve subsequently hit lower and lower loads. The? U S posted a much
larger than expected drop.
An initial unemployment claims last week bringing the numbers of the
newly unemployed back toward their pre virus pace, the Labour Department release jobless claims this morning.
She'll claims ended up for the weekend
Toper nine. That's last week, two hundred and ninety three thousand was the actual number of new jobless claims. They were expecting three hundred and twenty thousand enter.
Continuing claims to point
I've. Nine million verses, two point: six
seven million expected these are the
smallest number of new filing, since March of twenty twenty and jobless claims have been in.
In closer and closer to pre, panda
level. So there is a slow down in firing. Lay offs and separations reopening are taking place demur
and for workers is resurging. So there's a few different stories here. First is there's the now
from the right about lazy peep.
Who now want to stay home and collect enhanced unemployment? The enhanced unemployment is, I believe it
is over in all states, although there may be some states that still have funds left than are continuing
at the federal level, the enhanced unemployment is done. As predicted, there were relative
we few people who were literally sang. I would rather just collect on him.
Than work. Although any social insurance system is going to have some free riders, we don't really care about free riders as long as the system
macro level is well calibrated and achieves would it supposed to achieve enhanced unemployment,
is actually one of the biggest saving graces for millions of people during
the pandemic, the fact that there were some
writers- I'm sure doesn't really change that, but as expected,
as it is phasing out, people are getting back to work, new jobless clay,
things are going lower and lower and lower and are almost into
the English will now from the numbers we were seeing shortly before the pandemic, so we ve almost zero. That out number two point: that's relevant here there.
Have been those on the right now. Opportunistic Lee saying that vaccine
Requirements and mandates are going to keep unemployment rates up because people,
going to say: oh I've, gotta be vaccinated or oh I've gotta be tested, know I'd rather not work, unemployment or not. That doesn't seem to be happening. It never pass the sniffed us to begin with and it doesn't it
you're too be happening as the new unemployment numbers keep going lower, lower and lower.
You, other others, actually a graph here that we can look at U S jobless claims
fresh pandemic era low. As you can see, there was this major major spike in April of twenty twenty, where there were up
in six and seven million new claims and those continued to
line five million four million, then into the threes reasons,
whose we eventually got under the one million mark in the summer last summer, August twenty etc and be
sickly with just a little bit of a spike right at the start of twenty twenty one, continuing to decline, going lower and lower. Now did it's not all
Oh, you know rainbows and ginger snaps Yahoo. Fine.
Rights, even as the number of those newly unemployed improves. Lingering concerns over the krona virus. Keep a lid on further progress in the recovery. Many and
visual still on the sidelines of the labour force, demand for
Workers has outpaced, supply, job open
We are at a near record high of more than ten point four million in August, so there are still many jobs available. Many jobs available, Rubio Ferrucci who's, the chief? U S, economist for high frequency economics,
wrote shortages are a severe constraints of the labour market, currently over all the way
labour market remains on a gradual path towards pre pandemic health. The
slow down in the pace of job gains and still depress participation rates are reminders that the process will take some time, which is fine,
This is why we don't know in an economy as
large the United States, shocks to the system. Were things happen as quickly as the
which happened in March and April of twenty twenty are rare and they're, not good for the economy. Its did that those are the types of things that cause further follow on calamities of different kinds,
terms of supply chain in terms of all the different things that we ve been talking about. So it would be expected that, as we, hopefully Grass
we continue to see cases, declined ass decline in the United States that we would see the labour market recover, but this,
although these are the best numbers of the pandemic. So far, there are still limitations
economy. Now, next week, probably next week we're going to talk about wages, because one of the big kind of debates that has surfaced
in terms of we need workers, and we can't get them has been the right.
Saying what you can't get them, because their lazy people collecting unemployment at home, and they would prefer to do that. The left has
This is an issue of you're, not paying enough. You wanna get workers free market Right
offer a higher wage and then you'll have more people interested in working for you, we're going to do.
into the wage issue next week and look at so called the various quarrel
the jobs high medium and low quality jobs as their sometimes described Bristol, putting together all the data. We're gonna look at that next week next week. If you have a story to tell about your employment path and the disease
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Oh sub read it, which now has nearly thirty three thousand subscribers David
Hackmen dot com. Slash read! It is the place to find it. A few interesting and disturbing pose
I found this morning on the sub. Read it user kiddo. Four: five nine wrote: my wife won't get vaccinated David, Sir,
my wife is Anti backs, not just recovered, but all vaccines. She was of course vaccinated as a kid
but due to online propaganda, she won't take the covert vaccine and doesn't want our kids.
vaccinated at all any ideas. How I can change your mind and before you say it, I've already tried with
holding sex that only
seemed to encourage her eye. I really don't. Have
vice. I dont know how folks end up with someone
with views so diametrically opposed to their own. Now there are some people:
I have recently said my spouse. Won't let the kids be vaccinated,
Who said, I really had no idea. I mean out- and it's not like my spouse, who was a right wing. Not it's not like. My spouse has been
spiritual theorist in some other way.
Came out of nowhere there just against the covert vaccine. That seems to me like.
It would be relatively rare Munich. Is it possible that you really it and there was no sign whatsoever, but you wouldn't
given that there were probably some signs that maybe people didn't notice, I dont know, but unfortunately I don't have advice, I don't
but rise. It sounds like an extremely extremely difficult situation, which I do not envy. I know that a couple of parents called in during live calls a few weeks ago. Maybe a cup
months and said: I'm thinking of secretly having the kids vaccinated eminent withhold that information from my spouse, because
they will go nuts, and I am determined to get our kid. Her kids vaccinated that
These would be decisions for one to make, but I do not envy the situ
Russian user scheme ahead is taking issue with
term vaccine sceptic a scheme had rights. The term sceptic should not be applied to those still hesitant to take the covert vaccine
Sceptics form their opinions based on evidence and there's more than
enough evidence at this point showing that the covert vaccines are safe and effective people who are still hesitant to take the vaccine are not hesitant because of scepticism but for other reasons, maybe around
no fear, maybe misinformation, maybe my freedoms, but not due to scepticism. I think we should stop using the term vaccine sceptic. I agree. First of all, hesitant is often not accurate, because they're not really hesitant, verges not doing it. Has it
It would be like. Oh, I am about to jump into the pool, but I'm hesitating because it's gotta be cold, but then I do it right. I hesitated, but I did it a lot of this vaccine hesitancy is just people aren't doing it. No matter what
then. I agree. We do need a sort of more a tougher turn. I don't
the term would be, but I agree that it feels weird to say vaccines, sceptic or vaccine hesitant because it simply doesn't accurately described what's going on and then lastly, a few
bull of writing to me in posting about this article in article five, thirty eight, which says it looks like House Democrats,
Hats are worried about the twenty twenty two mid term, as you can check out the article on five thirty, eight by Nathaniel wreckage,
it outlines how there are a number
of house members that are leaving office and how that is going to impact the balance. Potentially
and the many reasons that Democrats me
We are worried about twenty twenty two and there is no shortage of reasons to be worried it it's. It would be the correct reaction you, if you accurately
and honestly assess the sir.
circumstances for the midterms demo.
It should be worried and many Democrats are, in general, mid terms after a new
party takes control of the White House. Don't go well for that party. Since Joe Biden, Democrat and won the White House you would just historically, it is almost always the case that you would expect Emma
that's not to do well in the midterms. You also have, because of their
retirements and people leaving to do other things to run for Mayor Senate different things that also potentially is going to be a problem
The democratic gap. Democrats should be worried about twenty twenty two and
we're going to be talking about it extensively. We already have been to some degree. It makes sense and will
will dig into that more probably really. As soon as next week joined the
discussion on the sub? Read it at David, Pachmann, dot, com, slash, read it hey! This is just
of this world whacked Donald Trump.
Now saying to republican voters, if the from so called fraud isn't fixed for the
Twenty twenty two and twenty twenty four elections. Republicans shouldn't even vote.
To which I say absolutely, I actually, I would
never go out and say dont vote, because it goes against my beliefs,
about participation and democracy. To tell people to stay home, we just wouldn't feel right, but if Trump wants to do it and say to his republican followers, dont vote by all means said that that sounds great to me. So, let's talk about what's going on, a Donald Trump tells Republicans not to vote in twenty two or twenty four. In a new statement that he
would have posted on Twitter himself if his account wasn't permanently suspended for inciting violence. Former president Trump urged supporters not to vote in the
the upcoming elections. If the report
can party doesn't quote solve the supposed voter fraud that he has falsely claimed precipitated his loss to President Joe Biden, Donald Trump full statement published two
the desk of Donald Trump on his website says. If we don't solve the presidential election fraud, that's capitalized guys. Fraud is capitalized. If we don't solve the presidential election fraud of
Monday, twenty, which we have thoroughly and conclusively documented. That's not true, replied
plugins will not be voting in twenty two or twenty four
It is the single most important thing for Republicans to do now that it's grammatically ambiguous, whether he says the most important thing to do is to solve the fraud or the most
important thing to do is not to vote in twenty two or twenty four. If the fraud is not solved now, there's two stories here: one is- is Trump publishing. This
the distraction, and you might say well David, a distraction from what.
There is a new report from the House Oversight Committee, which we will talk about later in the show which found that Donald Trump received millions of dollars.
from foreign governments through the Trump Hotels hid his debts and hid his
says it's an insane blockbuster report, so part of it would be. Maybe Trump is saying this to distract from that story and we'll talk about that later. The second part here is that
This is the way that narcissists behave quite frankly
if your parents say hey little Danny it's time to go home. Let's leave the sandbox. Now Danny is the type of kid who would poop in the sand box to shut it down. So nobody else can
in the sandbox when Trump is losing at an interview like when he's not doing well in interviews, asking questions that are making him look bad, he walks out, or he attacks the report.
When he's losing elections. He says there fake and now he's telling people not to vote
actually laughter- I was thinking about when, during the press briefing when Donald Trump did a press briefing as president, and he-
asked. What do you say to people who are watching you right now and are scared? This was when Kova deaths were skyrocketing in twenty twenty and
from says I would say, you're a terrible reporter. That's what I would say this is how he behaves
and he is saying I didn't they didn't give,
me they didn't. Let me become president for four more years, so I'm
going to try to ruin, everybody Republicans didn't work hard enough to steal the election for
nobody did, and so now I'm gonna say dont boat and ruin everything for the party, which I think that it is great. I think it's great now it's it's a bit.
Very dire message in a sense in terms of being a threat to the Republican Party from saying either get behind me and support. All this crate
stuff, I'm doing in saying or eminent actively try to destroy the party by
telling our voters not to vote in twenty twenty two and two thousand and twenty four. It's like a Trump way or the highway sort of thing, and I absolutely love it like. I said I cannot in good conscience myself tell people don't vote, don't participate that it's it's it's a form of voter suppression,
I won't do it, but if Trump is telling them by all means, listen
the guy. If you still follow him, if you trust him, if you believe in him, prove it by list
heading to what he sang? These are the sorts of techniques
that would really only work to manipulate
morons on indulge. Quite frankly, let me needs in come. Let's be a little more polite, low information. Voters
ignorant individuals, but if
is what he's doing? Let him have added, and I guess you don't to some degree
from must see voting in twenty two as
acknowledging that the twenty twenty election was legitimate. I don't even know that. That's really the case. I think many Republicans would vote in twenty two without acknowledging that two thousand and twenty was legit for Trump. It appears that way.
And so he's trying to own the lives by saying, don't boat owners. Please show us how I challenge. These Republicans show us
strong. You are by doing what Trump says and not voting in twenty twenty two and two thousand and twenty four. I won't suggest it, but if Trump saying it go with it, I welcome it and the real question is: will they,
Damn well, will they listen to have let us? I know your thoughts will have more coverage of this bizarre but, quite frankly, welcome statement.
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today we are going to be speaking with Jeff Duncan who's. The republican lieutenant governor of Georgia and also author of the new book GEO P to point out how the twenty twenty election can lead a better way forward for America's conservative party. I it's great
have you want. I appreciate it actually journey
Oh ok, I mean where to start right, Georgia has been at the centre of a significant political controversy. We now know about the various phone calls and requests to put it
Lee that were made by our former president Trump when it,
comes to the results of the twenty twenty Georgia,
action is it it
Give us your sense of the direction that the
Republican Party has gone relative to where you would like to see it. As a conservative party, there, stoutly chaos on the battlefield for sure
Certainly we must not play out Georgia. I think
he's. Just a microcosm of what was playing out all over the country
You know I'm one of those people that I am hard wired. The conservative group that way when you called
that way started. My first business raise my family. I just believe, and they can serve the principles and
It pains me to watch the interval.
We need to win elections because of a style listed because a personalities not because of our policies that painful to watch and ask how the process and the tug of war that were in right now
As recalling forty naturally, which wrote me write you a bit. You point out: it's not really any sort of water down. You know a policy positions
The conservative is just about a better approach to deliver those Elsie positions to America, so did did you vote for them?
Trump and twenty twenty I did. I did you know
I voted for and twenty sixteen about informing twenty twenty, our colleagues and myself in that category of tens of millions of of Republicans
I did the same thing that you don't really really applauded
conservative winds of those four years, but it's hard to explain
they even my own kids. I talk about this in a book by debate by five by three boys really shaped a lot of
my position just in raising them with my wife, it's hard to explain in the tweets. They went out your I spent all this. I don't like it.
It may be careful what you want: social media in Ireland,
How do I explain in other than the former president doing what he did?
Well. How do you know them Hetty? How did you explained? How do you explain voting for him, then tat so in interesting? I talk a lot about the story in her mind was denied is compared to that the buyer I d as implants forward, really what I explained it, or at least I rash lies in my mind
I was playing out right now with your by any nobody. This is a non partisan answer to this. Nobody agrees in mind
I mean that the Afghanistan Hand Office was the way it should have been handled.
The way we deal with inflation, the southern border, the only person I mean every night least order security except for Joe Biden. So I put those elements against without trumpet done as it s a conservative and
and I pulled it, I pulled the other that the ballot for President Trump, what exactly would Trump have done differently?
Afghanistan, because he was actually asked on a news max interview. He couldn't articulate a single thing. You would have done differently. Looking back, you know now,
the high side of twenty twenty money, money, quarterback looks it usually have an exit strategy out. There is a thorough, as I probably thought he did, but I hope
that there was enough conservative leadership in his an administration that would have given a better advice than what you have I did and how he executed d hate. The exit
the best understand violent, be my hope. It it's over it's hard to tell ya know, because it seems since it's the first thing you mentioned that you're not pleased with it
of Biden, but then Trump cannot.
Peculiar what he would have done differently and useful
can either to say it's a hope. You have it. Doesn't it it's interesting to me that that's not stylistic like
first, you said it do you know that their their mostly stylistic differences with Trump but out but Paul
See was where you won't
I would like to see the policies and acted but then like on it
understand it's not really clear. The policy would have been any difference. I'm trying to understand sort of whether your disagreement is just done style or whether its policy as well, that what we can split hairs all day, long, there's a president, that's in office and make the decisions and his name's Joe Biden, there's a former president. That's not an office did make those decisions
exiting Afghanistan. The reality is, I would hope that more military minds with NATO's realistic
patients and they would have had more timely thoughts, will consideration for those that help support or milk
those that were fully expecting to be helped through any sort of military.
transition or exit out of the outer the country. My hope is any present whether democrat or Republican would have been more thoughtful for that, but that didn't happen in, and I think that the same thing that were watching play out with the southern border, I believe in border security, is one of the things. I talk a lot about the book. I think Republicans of totally dropped the ball, including former president Trump on immigration. We spend all this energy kind of fearmongering about the southern order and we built for honoured sixty miles of a border wall
what two thousand mile border or more in that the regional I think we ve dropped. The ball is were only having a singular focused conversation about a big issue like immigration, border security
the real conversation in addition is gonna, be the sixty million undocumented folks are here, many of which we have been fully
worse, allowing them to be embedded in our communities and in our economy, and we
have a real conversation about that. That's me as an area of opportunity for Republicans to join ranks with
The focus on the other side, the out to have those real conversations that I talk a lot about that I'm curious
This is sort of kind of, like
it's a sanity check of sorts when, during
The twenty sixteen campaign, where we
you did and voting for Donald Trump when he said during his first term, he would build a wall across all two thousand miles and Mexico would pay for it. Did you believe that for a second I did I'm sorry they did
say you did not. I did not. You did not. Ok,
Why do you think so? Many people did believe that when he said
when it was so, obviously you I know not happen, I think Mister Riddle
we're trying to solve right now, the Republican Party is: how can we get people away and built this isn't just republic. The promised democrat problem to the Americas addicted to ten second soundbites, we're making massive political decisions and putting our support.
Folks, in short clubs, in certainly gnp to point out, is really trying to building much more thoughtful, thorough plan of attack on some of these big issues, ones that aren't in about two hundred eighty chargers on twitter or about sums
and called build, while really through the most ire from the former president to me space,
during the ten weeks, my very intense rebuttal of the conspiracy theories and that the fraudulent now the real fraud was talking about fraud in the election cycle. Here in Georgia,
So my major pushed back really started when I say look build a wall is a great project name, but is not an immigration policy. We have Republicans need to grasp onto
a serious immigration policy and start to move forward in a night
really drew the iron ore resident really started. A visceral downhill aspire, one on whatever relationship that was out there. You
so like what happened during those days between allow
day, twenty twenty, where we
we learned the margin of victory for Joe Biden in Georgia. Subsequently,
the phone calls. I need Brad wrath and spurred or to find me eleven thousand seven hundred and eighty votes gimme a break like what what was what were you doing at that time? Who were you talking to what were the conversations like gas? So I literally within days of the election in all
this kind of rumor mill, starting that there was fraud and whatnot. I I drove headfirst into the details. I talked to the governor's office. I talk to the secretary state in his entire team. I talk to you
general and really the feedback I was getting? Is Jeff? There's, there's no sign of any sort of systemic fraud, there's nothing common in other than just wildly place. Social media posting
wild allegation starting the flowing from the trunk administration? So I started to get its quickly. I could get on tv effort for two reasons. One is I didn't want any sort of runaway
homer to take over the control, the narrative that that weaken, ruddy, fair legal.
Legal election, your Georgia and Sue. I was trying to protect the one off process from two concerns:
You're senators that were now engaged in a run off in enforcing
We know that turned out is, if you're, a conservative, so I hit the tv, I probably did. I'm an old,
Bruce Sixty seventy eighty under national television interviews and
radio and using arab print interviews- and I spoke up against it- I was one of the first folks did said. Unfortunately, I'm gonna have to say Joe Biden, the President Elect and an almost instantly drew ire from Donnelly, the former president, but also from people all over all over the.
country are we enter, seem threats as a family with a twenty four hour security I mean it was. It was an intense ten weeks. Simply in just tell the troops,
and even more surprising things for me, was
and then one about it. Any factors behind writing at the book you happy to point out was- and I thought I was walking out singing as part of a republican choir- that the reality was singing a solo for far too long when the facts simply lined up that there was no fraud. There was no systemic issues.
hang on Doll shop, got beat and he's wanted this, the layer in Israel
Can I hold him accountable for not doing things he needed to do what
there behind
scenes Annie.
Consideration among Brien Camp Brad Raft.
Berger and other election officials of actually trying to do what Donald Trump was asking to have done so all speak for myself
Ass yours now, there was no way I was gonna move. I see this job is not worthwhile for, and I certainly
we'd, like to eleven million Georgia's some of them
who wanted to see the scenario change, but I certainly never heard of
it's our I never had a conversation with any of the other stay. Why elected officials that that than ever
to me that they were considering it, but I'd encourage you to together.
sure, so I guess as opinions aside. As far as you know,
Nor has far as I know, there was never a consideration between
gather the speaker sectoral, stay and myself to take
Consideration because, like those balls, lavender scowling at this point there were you know,
the former president wanted to have a special session to send a different set of electorates we wanted to have you know you? Just all types of different scenarios were playing out. Death is really worth feasible. Do you think that the
craziness that took place involving these fraud claims between November and the date of the special elections for the Senate, which I think was January. Fifth, do you think that
tribute to both republican senators losing their races at one hundred percent absolutely and in it was unfortunate,
I don't plan to be smarter than anybody by any stretch of the imagination
I'm just a retired baseball player for the most part, but I could see it
from a mile away when they buy just by default, higher Donald Trump
campaign manager during the rules that was the beginning to the end.
Georgians wanting to be reminded of their conservative policy reasons, ends and positions that they stood for they
in Georgia fell in love with their business acumen and their ability to articulate jobs in
no security and all those things that really kind of the tenets of why?
in a we wanted them there. Why? The governor and selected Jelly Leffler represent Johnny Eyes it since
the remainder of his term. I forgot to do that and unfortunately, Donald Trump got his books in Denham.
and you have just made it all about him and his especially girls. Do you think that
from actions in terms of the influence campaign and the phone calls it might have been criminal.
So I'm not an attorney I've. I've, I told you, I'm a recovery. Baseball player should have been or that based on conversations and had their yeah. So look, I think I think I'll start with they were absolutely inappropriate and they were discussing whether I was what ever party affiliation were associated with it. They were just
red- and I know that there's investigations going on and they're gonna certainly get to the bottom of what their opinions are from those legal investigations, but I don't have to I don't: have the legal action and not to split hairs
Now, as it was illegal or not, it was inappropriate for sure fare of one of the,
the criticisms I've had of the Republican
party of late. As someone who is not a Republican, is that the focus
Policy has become flows
two zero and the most prominent Republicans right now that that get headlines federally are getting
headlines by saying that they don't want to wear masks or they don't want people to have to get vaccinated or their taking a stir
it's against critical race theory or vouchers
to cancel Christmas, or now it's Halloween, I guess fox- did a bunch of segments yesterday about Halloween may be getting cancelled. Do you think that this
the direction that good for just just without evaluating it, morally for winning races for winning elections? Is it good to focus on the culture stuff instead of policy? Absolutely not spend a lot of time talking about it because look at the end of the day we're all supposed to be running for these off
is because we want if we want to be in a position of leadership right and there's no leadership to be found in all these
short term sugar, high issues. I talked about the book. What I referred to as my pet projects policy. Empathy item really is a strategy to approve
of those as it s a meaningful way to win back the White House in twenty four and in on the policy for Gabby. We have literally forgot to remind America the policies that we, as Republicans, are good at. Just like you mentioned Europe Europe, your party,
in Europe? We are Democrats on another, never go on and on and on the left, but I'm not a Democrat. Ok, ok, so so you're the lesser their different issues that you think that the left are better at right. That's your personal position, church! Why did you some things that Americans think the Republicans are better at wages? Have totally forgotten remind people of those policies that were good at what we ve also forgot the ability to understand that we can leave on some of these big issues. I talked about immigration sector. Go let's talk about healthcare right, it is a. It is an issue right for the picking to talk about something other than we hate Obamacare
in a mortal out right now we need to put more on the bone there. We need to talk about how we centre healthier away from the government and onto the small business owners. How do we empower small business owners who, by the way, are the bulk of the employers in this country to be able to compete with big companies and with government programmes to build offer informal health insurance to their employees and to be able to an end?
Ice people to come to work is that are just going to the mailbox receivers. There's somebody solutions that Republicans and come up with
but we can't be willing to talk about it and not decide shows a niece distraction. Elements and shiny objects that there really gonna just run today new cycles, and then we may we got hurry up, find the next one year
You mentioned twenty twenty four in taking back the way house. Obviously, before that we have a mid term election and twenty twenty two, do you think that it helps
your butt
sort of internal, then I call it aside, but your approach to the Republican Party is
helped, her hindered if folks, like Marjorie, tat
their Green and Lauren Bo Bird and Madison Catherine get reelected? Next year
so I don't know delivers thoroughly, no one that makes that that I know well. As border Taylor
and certainly if we have more Marjorie tailored grains in Congress with with we're in trouble, is republicans right. That's right!
and- and I certainly have made no no qualms about it- that I think she's destructive to our state. I think she's disrupt your party and issue a personal I first has dropped into our country in so it's not just enough to get republican leadership. We gonna have the right Republicans. They care about the long term, viability of conservative leadership and conservative policies that art about little side shows and press conferences, and it was not. You know, arts phone matters. I talked about the pet projects policy, empathy in tone
Only so important is simply Donald Trump had a better time, always down the strategy. The Eu China became an adult and said you know I'm up and the leader of the free world, and I want to use the next hundred days only put on display my leadership style. I wanna take my business razumihin how I can coordinate the vaccine distribution, how I could manage international affairs how I can manage an economy that continues to whip up indulges. Judge me by what I do not know when I said I just that better
authoritative town, would have made mountains of different. I think it would probably probably one of the election, but course he could get out of his own way, and- and I talk about that- the book with several one on one conversations with him in the back of the beast. That really can lead me to lead me to see that smell in the air of defeat. You could sense, even it is called
the election is two days before Donald Trump came down. Do Georgia for rally in Rome Georgette I was. There is one of the speakers, and- and this was this- was eye opening to me. I spent a lot of time in the book talk about this. I made a statement because
China wind Suburbs idea, where we had where we had the wind was, was convinced, the sovereign.
Then he was worthy of four more years and I knew it was gonna, be clubs and I made a state any kind of closing off my final speech. I said you know what our policies are. So good is Republicans. They even help the people who don't both for Us- and I got through- I literally got burned by sea of thirty thousand, make Amerika great hats, because I was willing to say that our policies are so did they helped people that, although forced to- and that was an eye opener to me- that one, the president was out there campaigning a hundred miles away from the suburbs. In two there was such a visceral reaction to even looking at trying to help the other side or even
go bridges or expand the size of the ten year, even two days before the election. The smell was in the air, not just in Georgia, but all of the current year. That's a definite red flag. I know no question no question there. The book is G O p. To point out.
the twenty twenty election can lead to a better way for
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notes for this episode all right. We have an absolutely huge blockbuster story.
based on a report from the House Oversight Committee which,
ledges to have uncovered evidence that Donald Trump
save millions of dollars from foreign governments. During his presidency hid debts
a concealed losses and we're going to look at the details of what's alleged. This is sort of
Another shoe dropping as we expected that the shoes to drop after Donald Trump Presidency ended and
might actually explain
I trump put out the statement telling republican voters dont vote in twenty twenty. Two and twenty twenty four, which we covered earlier to draw
attention away from this report and to it to some degree it worked as of this morning. If you looked on red it on the politics sub, read it the Trump telling Republicans not to vote story had seventy thousand up
its trumps. Major ethics violations had four thousand up vote, so it quite lit
really is working now, both a real stories, but if the idea was to obfuscate it, it is,
working in a sense. So let's look at this, the House Committee on Oversight and Reform Committee
uncovers evidence that Trump cards,
killed. Millions in losses hid debts
received millions from foreign governments at Trump Hotel. Look at this, let's actually got skip to the second part.
The document provided by GM, say: documents raise new and troubling questions about trumps, lease with GM say and the
agencies ability to manage the former presidents conflicts of interests during
the term in office when he was effectively on both sides of the contract as landlord and tenant specifically.
Committee found that President Trump provided misleading information about
financial situation of the Trump Hotel in his financial disclosures, received undisclosed, preferential treatment from a foreign bank
a hundred seventy million dollar loaned to the hotel that the President personally guaranteed access
did millions of dollars in a monument from foreign governments. Without proof-
adding an accounting of the monies source or Purpose Conseil
hundreds of millions of dollars in debts from GM say when bidding on the old post office, building lease and made it impossible
four GS say to properly and
worse polices, conflict of interests, restrictions by engage
an opaque transactions with other affiliated entities.
as discussed in this letter. This new
Evidence raises many questions that require further,
investigation and action by the committee. This is a crazy amount of alleged wrongdoing and unethical behaviour it. It is stunning, the degree to which this was taken by
which we knew so isn't as we knew this was going on. We knew it
it being investigated seriously enough. It was obvious that this was going on. He was never. He never took care of the. Although those those conferences,
trust is absolutely wild? A few ok so
the documents show look at the specifics, her former president from
reported massive revenues at the Trump hotel.
concealing that the hotel suffered seventy million dollars in net losses,
federally mandated financial disclosures Trump reported that the whole
earned him over a hundred and fifty million in revenue during his time in office, but the records obtained show it actually
heard losses of seventy million leading
holding company to inject at least twenty four million into the struggling hotel by finally,
misleading public disclosures trump eggs
agitated the health of the hotel. He also appears to have concealed potential conflict of interest
stemming not just from his ownership of this failing business but
also from his roles as the hotels lender and guarantor of its third party loans, while in
This trump received preferential treatment potential
worth millions from a foreign bank. It is Deutsche Bank. Deutsche bank is endlessly involved every single time,
There's a new report about these conflict. Deutsche bank is involved. Trump did not publicly disclose the benefits. He got that it's a deferral that he got.
the Trump hotel received over three point: seven million dollars from foreign governments
we knew that foreign governments were staying at trumps DC, hotel specifically to curry favour with them and to immigration.
Themselves with him? We now know it is to the tune of three point: seven million dollars that is about seventy four hundred nights at Trump Hotel at the average.
We re Trump didn't disclose that to the g I say, and he donated to the
usually only a small portion of those payments, and then it goes on and on funny
business, where the lease related to the old post office, building and much much more.
This is more of the same stuff that he has been doing in getting away with for his whole career. He has bragton.
did. He says he knows how to work the system he
how to essentially ignore?
regulations and laws, and we knew he was doing it on day, one where he showed up with the big stack of paper and said here is the paperwork that my
Journeys are filing in order to deal with my conflicts of interest, and we were like other, are. First of all, our is the stack even of is: are they blank papers? Was the gravest question one
and number two. Are they substantively meaningful in terms of actually dealing with conflicts of interest and it obviously they were not
this should all be investigated.
So many of these seem violations of these for foreign corrupt practices, act which says it's unlawful for a: U S, person or company, to offer
hey or promised to pay money or anything
value to foreign officials for the purposes of obtaining or retaining business. Did this scene
You have been violated two ways back and forth for lack of a better term. This is it it's it's. The frustrating part is obviously this was going on.
Obviously it was going on and now it could take as we ve been predicting for the better part of this year. Already eight couldn t.
Years to unwind and uncover everything that went on and we probably
Don't ever really learned the full extent of it so incredible revelations here and will continue to follow them up. This is kind of AIDS cut.
Funny. It's kind of depressing
the one hand, the post office as
currently operating is operating not as well as it could, thanks to Donald Trump selection of Louis the joy to be the postmaster general Republicans love to?
TAT the post office? They want to damage the post office and and and the reason, why is to encourage private industry to replace it
So on the one hand, the Post office is fun
winning poorly because of that and Joe Biden can't just replace Louis to joy. Rip Joe Biden has to wait until he can replace members of,
Postal Board of Governors and vacant and replace Louis de joy. So there's not really that much that
That Biden can do until he is able to do that and
At the same time, reporters are
Asking Jen, Saki and Joe Biden well. Wire package is going to be
the word more slowly around the holidays. Here's a reporter yesterday asking that Jen Saki exactly that question. Take a lesson I can't
yes, slightly similar measure based, I really being asked today- this administration guarantees packages will run run. They are not the postal service or you PS or Fedex. We cannot guarantee what we can do.
Who is used every lever at the federal government?
disposal to reduce delays.
To ensure that we are
dressing bottlenecks and the system, including ports, and the need for them to be open, longer hours that goods can arrive and we
continued to press not only workers and the union's, but also companies, to take as many steps as they can to reduce these delays? Now there were people who reacted and said: no. No, the government is the postal service. It's it's not ok!
postal services sort of this weird in between its an independent business enterprise, it's under the purview of the federal govern
but Joe Biden doesnt control package delivery. He doesn't control what it cost
get a tracking number. He doesn't control
the logistics of certified mail or anything like that. It's an independent agency of the executive branch and the way Joe Biden can influence said is,
by choosing appointees, by appointing people to the board of directors,
then can decide that we want to keep trumps postmaster General Louis, the joy or not now, but my best assessment is that on December, eighth, one of trumps Postal Board appointees has their term and at that point Joe Biden can replace them and its but
even that that will shift the balance in the direction of reason
and they will remove Louis the joy, but it's this crazy thing, where
on the one hand, they are ignoring the fact that trumpet deliberately need capped the postal service through it
Indirect influence by selecting Louis the joy. That's why things are the way they are now not because of job. I'm Joe Biden doesn't get a pic for the Board of governors until December
then, on the other hand, there asking Jan Saki
Can you guarantee package delivery times thou? How could you
Biden guarantee that that that's that's not the way the postal service actually works now, whether they are.
deliberately misunderstanding that, in order to ask these questions,
be salacious and provocative and titillating, or whether,
they genuinely dont know that that's how it works. I dont know it would. It would be a sad commentary on the state of journalism if they
We don't understand why the postal sector
This is the way it is right now and it's because Louis, the joys, postmaster general he's postmaster general because of the choices that Donald Trump made to the Postal Board of GUM,
Joe Biden we'll get a shot at changing that in December
but I did it. It's almost everything bides delete deciding
weakness, slow down, package delivery, that's the way trump slowed down testing, they seem to act as if Joe Biden has controlled it just deliver more quickly and fix the problem.
I believe this will be solved, but it's gonna take,
little bit of time and just just pathetic questions. Pathetic, continued pathetic questions from the White House Press corps. We have
voicemail number, and that number is too one nine to David P. This really cracked me up when I heard it yesterday
played this clip of my pillow, Michael and Dal sing. He found out that a supposed
the eight hundred and fifty year old person voted in the twenty twenty election? That's part of the fraud
here is a collar me,
making a similar point. It's a joke, but they do a beautifully
Let us do it from this chasm that, by the way, even the deed,
oil of pronouncing Wisconsin Wisconsin. The way might pillow did it. This is a perfect vote,
male down to the last detail. Have you know that I know to people who want to fifty three years old?
other is twenty seven years old, long carrying an Janni Hopkins Amazed, the boy budget. Every day you can imagine
It's crazy yeah, seven hundred and fifty three year olds are out there voting its wild wild time. I'm glad
that, essentially, everybody in my audience seems
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