so we have another new headline about the spending bill. Slash infrastructure bill discussion that continues to I dont want to be negative, but it sort of his like plaguing us at this point. The fact that this Discussion and grandstanding and people getting attention for getting getting attention for opposing things that they should be in favour of, but me This is good news and the news is that House Democrats have put paid. Emily leave back into the spending bill now.

I'm gonna tell you what the news is that I'm going to tell you what's being said, but my view on this is that this it's in and of itself may be grandstanding, and I dont know if I met this point. Just jaded and cynical you'll have to tell me, but we'll get to that number. The context is that even as things were completely falling apart. Bernie Sanders went on tv over the weekend and said: hey, I'm still working on the prescription. Drugs cost control aspect of this then, on Tuesday it was announced, hey the prescription, drug control component is back in the bill. We talked about that a couple of days, Now. The news is House Democrats put paid family leave back into the bill. The hill reporting House Democrats have amended the enormous social spending framework at the heart of President Biden. Economic agenda to include paid family leave a popular provision that had met resistance from Senator Joe Mansion and

not to be removed. The change was announced Wednesday morning in a letter from Speaker Pelosi who said the House Rules Committee would meet later in the day to consider the changes, but Pelosi stop short of announcing the vote on the package. Instead, the speaker said there remain a few outside. issues. It has been my intention, through the process, to put on the house floor and pass a bill that would pass the Senate in the same form, because I've been informed by a senator of opposition to a few of the priorities contained in our and because we must have legislation agreed you by the House and Senate in the final version of build that better. That will we we will send to the president's desk. We must strive to find common ground by an initially proposed. Twelve weeks have paid family leave a provision adopted by halves Democrats but mansion balked at the four hundred and ninety four billion dollar price tag, forcing negotiators to consider a sharp reduction down to four weeks before Biden slashed. It altogether progressives, grumbled and said they.

except the- they would accept it as a cost of enacting. Other social benefits policy on Wednesday, however, had paid leave would be part of the house rules. Committees discussion, the decision can it came at the urging of many members of the cost Cox Caucus chair enriching kneel and the committee staff have worked on this priority for a long time and were ready. The provision will provide for weeks not the twelve four weeks of permanent parental and medical leave. According to an aid familiar with the language Alex Bolton, reporting mansion, not thrilled to hear speaker, Pelosi has added for weeks of paid leave back and be that's a challenge, and they know how I feel about it. So, ok, first of all, this isn't the infrastructure bill. This is the twenty twenty two budget bill labelled build back better or b, B b,

There is confusion between the two. Without a doubt, often it's not really they to save the bill. So there is confusion, but this is the build back better bill now in an ideal world, everything would be in its own bill, so you say: ok, let's do a bill for paid family leave whose forward whose against it? Ok, you figure it out. The problem is that if you that a whole bunch of stuff would just never pass the whole system. We have. Is this pseudo corrupt system of cronyism and earmarks and pork where people in the House and Senate agree to support? acts as long as why is in there and that sort of like a for better or for worse thing. That's why we get these packages with so many things in there now there are real questions as to how these four weeks would even work. Do you have to pay into it or not? What counts is leave what's a worker? What about gig workers? What about self employed people, independent country?

there is, though it does not only apply to double you. Do we just don't know, and what's the future of this, we have absolutely no idea. What I know is two things, and this is where I want to go back to Am I being too cynical? Time is running out to get this done this calendar year to get this done before the House and Senate recess for the end of the year. I am starting to work, wonder whether things are getting added back in so that it looks better as a bill. That's me

going to pass. What I mean by that is one perspective. Is that build back better is debt that the build back better act, at least in twenty one- is not going to pass so thinking very cynically. Are they making the bill more robust so that when it doesn't pass, they can say? Look we we put our best foot forward. We added prescription drug controls. We added some paid leave so that the bill looks better, took her progresses, knowing that the bill is essentially dead, they will not pass a better bill.

Rather than not pass a crappy your bill. I don't know it's all disappointing, but this has been going on for months. This point. These are all things that should not be controversial in a country as rich as the United States. These things aren't controversial in most other countries that our level of wealth, but let me know if you think, I'm being too cynical about now, they're just trying to make the bill better before not passing it to say it would have been a pretty good bill, but it has. chance of passing. Let me know what you think. I have disturbing video for you today of Rhonda Santas appearing on Fox NEWS with a kid who says that mask Sir bad basically- and this looks like a hostage video It looks like I mean: listen, I'm in a play it for you. It's only ten seconds will look at it a couple of times. This looks like a hostage video, were they Barely has any idea what their being forced to say and run disk

and this republic in Florida governor, looks so smog. Let's just look and listen to this, and then that will see if we can make heads else. Out of it, and now I know mass because you torture anyhow, germs on your hand, and then you put on your face in bringing than on the germs. ok, listen! There's thieves! You see, I think, sing. That's right! That's right! This Fiona LE shells a second greater in Florida and, of course, when we think about public policy, my instinct always is: ask one second greater what they think and make that the policy. Now something about this video is extremely disturbing, but many things about the video are extremely disturbing republicans.

They have found a way to put kids front and centre on masks and not wanting them notice that they never put front in centre the kids of parents who died on vaccinated of covert. I wish they got there same prominent placement. As Fiona LE shells saying I don't want to wear the matchless. Listen to it. One more time, and now I am ass- became catcher. You haven't germs on your hands and then you put it on your face and brings in all the germ. and run dissent is just looks so thrilled. Now it's been we. We have two options. We could ask a second greater hand picked by run dissent as their opinion of masks, or we could look at the study these endless endless endless. Studies on this do face masks work. Forty nine scientific studies explain why they do. You can go to Jama insights, they have a

better analysis. Called the fact of nests of mass squaring to control community spread of Sars Kogi too, they actually look at all of these different studies and they find a significant decreases in the spread of covert. You can download this it's a free study. You can find. it and they write. Increasing number of ecological studies also provide persuasive evidence that universal masking reduces the number of infections deaths. These studies dont distinguish the type of masks, but they all seem to work to some degree. The overall community benefit of wearing masks derives from their ability to limit both exhalation and installation of infectious virus the science on masks and then a second greater hand, act by Rhonda, Santas, sorry about that little system, listen to Walmart. Did this? Is it is this. Child abuse in some way

when the mass, because you torture anyhow germs on your hand, and then you put on your face and brings it on the germ, Importantly, this is a second greater suspended thirty six days for not wearing a mask one. Just little bonus clip for you from Florida did just tell you how crazy things in Florida are. This is fourteen seconds of a video of run dissent is announcing he's going to create an office to investigate election crimes in Florida. What crimes are and being alleged in Florida election crimes. I don't know Trump one Florida by three and a half when's, even really talking about Florida, fraud and run dissenters, announced so so think about the layers. Descent dismiss handles covered announces he's creating an office to investigate election crimes which we don't need, and then the crowds its cheering enchanting. Let's go Brandon

first completely grins. You know if you dont know about: let's go Brandon. It goes back to a now scar raised during which there were people in the car during an interview, chanting, F Joe Biden and the reporter misheard at she was interviewing of race. Car driver named Brandon issues, look there chanting, let's go Brandon, but really they were chanting, AFT Joe Biden, that's where it comes from it's it's not very funny. It's all like a rallying cry of ignorance and stupidity, but when run, it is fitting that right the Santas announces an investigation into something we don't need and the crowd starts chanting, let's go brand and so just horrifying, horrifying stuff happening in Florida. We ve- a great show for you today. Let me know your thoughts on the descent child hostage video. You can find me on Twitter a deep

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I don't know. I cannot starting off on a super topical one, because I know the elections happened last night, that's kind of a lot to talk about but I had a question on the kind of a general one. Would you, agree that it seems like people on the right are a lot more organised as one these days sense that, like they seem to agree on an like work towards goals, at least slightly or more we better than people on the left to do and what we could do to maybe come together, and start to have some of that presence that people on the right seem to be getting one up us on us with like I consider myself self democratic socialist, but I know that there is a lot of people like you were a little more world, and I am that might like. We might disagree on certain things. I need to get into the specifics specifics of it, but I just I gotta think that this seems like

laughed a little less cohesive and together and a little bit more prone to light. Nitpicking things why you're right whenever I got a few videos on this, and indeed I do think that there are some on the left, who sometimes let the perfect become the enemy of the good. It's definitely an important issue and one I've talked about, but Kevin I umbrella. Is that smoked detector that you got to deal with that? Ok, my friend, so unless I'm gonna go nine for better exactly yet all right! Thank you can very good. We ve got a lot happening there eminent, let him get to it. Let's go next to Asia from Arkansas. I say you were on their idea. We can you hear me? Yes, I can well. I have a question, but furthermore powerful cabin said you there's definitely in an issue with.

Democrats just being terrible at campaigning affect the way that was kind of my conclusion from Virginia in New Jersey and in the state of Arkansas aware you know we have like five Democrats elected in the entire stay anywhere. There is just so much incompetence and so much of anybody working Am I don't wanna take too long, but TED has quickly. I was then I was in a great many college. I was in a group that was right. Collecting the young Democrats group and I said that, based on how disorganized the party is right now we should be focusing on

voting in them in the republic and primarily to keep out the extremist cousin Arkansas you you have to take which finally voted ripe, and I get kicked out of that group poor as they said, spreading a republican propaganda till I give her basic things like that of strategy, they're keeping our people, and how do you expect to accomplish anything short, of course, noble thing well voting in democratic republican primaries when states allow you to vote in either as a way to keep out the worst candidate is a much discussed strategy that has been talked about for a while

I think it's certainly a very interesting one. I think you are absolutely right that part of what went wrong in Virginia is that Republicans are at a structural advantage. It's much easier to motivate people to vote based on anger and fear in Virginia. A lot of it was about education and critical race theory and fear and anger are just better motivators to get people to engage with the system and that something that the right uses significantly in this country. So I think you're analysis his exact right and in art and thought I might be wrong about this. I believe you have to either vote in the Republican or the democratic. You can't

we both in the primary. I think it would be the case in that's. I believe, that's the case in every state. You can't vote in both primaries yeah. We have that the fact that matter is as it stands in twenty twenty two, the elections in March, who ever went store up, can primaries than in the office. Pretty much is going to win over burdened and we have, I think, a character. I don't know if you're familiar with them by being you'll, be more familiar with them, you too. Have you heard of Jason Raper no tears are realistic and state senator. We have that's running from lieutenant governor and anyone listening

read the Wikipedia article on he speaks for itself, but I don't want to take up too much of your time. But my question is for someone like me living in Arkansas. I think, obviously I kind of moderate last you if you want to say we think the most effective way to actually change the political demographics of the state. Or do you think it's just a better than just get out altogether daddy, it's your call as to whether you want to get out or not. It wouldn't be illegitimate to get out if you decide that use want to improve your circumstances immediately, rather than work to improve everybody's in your state, but get an find local races, fine candidates that are that are doing the right things as far as you are concerned and get get involved in those campaigns

The best advice I can give our at my friend, I'm gonna, move onto their gotta lotta people waiting to to chat. Let's go next to Jill from Burbank California Jill. You were on the air Jill from Burbank. California, please on mute yourself and then what

Be able to hear you can hear me. Yes, ok, they can do things that I wanted to talk about words virtually Petersen. There was badly if you watch you debate em, but my point is that he doesn't think that is wrong. After even you confront them and innovation, we showed him that either isn't she doesn't know anything about it right now. What do you think we should do to people like that because should even engage with this view? The biggest example for people, even after you show them the fact and tell him

he had now stand, they go and they haven't, they had their children. They have their own day today and to continue you, I don't think so much convincing Jesse Lee Petersen. It's more. Is it worth doing so that maybe people in the audience see how quickly his assertions fall apart and crumble, I dont go in thinking. The goal here is to convince Jesse Leap, it or send to change his mind, it's let's just show how silly and cartoonish his entire perspective is it out. So I think it's just too. We have to manage what the expectations I wouldn't. I wasn't trying to change his mind right now, but I mean you, you had one percent come back and say on other Democrat now not a republic anymore, which is getting, I think, maybe dear

people side, and maybe they change their minds as a result of seeing it for sure. I think that's really. The goal is for the audience rather than for Jesse we Petersen, but now the truth day election that Young can want nothing. It was few things like your tea, which do not you not taught anywhere by, made me put human Arab, nothing like from tat other care about is coming and he tried to do it in the mid term as well. But what do you think like what? Why can't Democrats also make a bogeyman arab, something that. Africans do it's just not tire going rights would fall for like what would they? What would they do? What they do? Oh republicans want to ban abortion, but most of them do AIDS. It's not. You know what like. What would you? What would the bogeyman Vietnam?

I really like idea exactly like abortion or in our time care that we are ready to be at the end of the list, goes on and on and on world near, it doesn't seem to be any point. It doesn't seem to create the fear and anger that motivates these Republicans to get out and vote. Let me think about whether there such an issue is an interesting idea Jill, but I just don't know if it would work. Let me think about it, you aren't you, doing what you goin out, switch from Turkey. Do I do you, my air, Twitch Sub, like so much for everything, I think, still appreciated. There's Jill from bank very, very strongly presenting a number of different arguments. Let's go next to TIM fry.

Wisconsin TIM, you were on the earth next, it ever gonna hear me. Yes, I can add for it. I see, I guess, I'm a little bit concerned with thumb school board slightly, where you keep on seeing these the threats of violence. Is there a threshold and your mind that we really need to be? Taking some defensive action are doing something. What do you mean you using took like security at school board meetings or word. You mean political defence, more physical, like security, yeah That's it. We're probably already pass that threshold to be totally honest. I'd think that there are some places that have gone to closed school board meetings. They ve eliminated dislike and commentary portion to make it safer, but I think we're

ready there, and you know it really varies. It depends on the school district, but worthwhile think we're already at the point where physical security has to be a concern fair enough. Now, sadly, unfortunately, are it that's all. I have no right thanks very much for the call. I appreciate that a lot of what could be the topics today, let's go to a J from the Philippines, a j you are on the air. Oh tell up aid me just barely would watch you. What was your question today? Let's see if we can get through it. So I question: is that it's about twenty twenty five elections,

it's a bit far away on the esteem by the movement again in plenary, if only for I dont know yarmulke this april- that because its I, but that all ok, ok here, if you want one thing, if anything I chose have in their nomination, since you think she should be primary. Oh um, I I'm not, I would never say there should be no primary. I mean uh yeah, pray If there's a good candidate, if Joe Biden doesn't run in Kamel runs, if somebody wants to primary her, they absolutely should do it. I mean I've already said I dont think it looks good for Canada Harris if she becomes the nominee because Joe Biden doesn't run, but there should be. We have a system.

primary whoever you want, I'm not gonna, be the one saying: don't do it now I do agree with you on that. whenever he carried it to be again stroke, and only then will we don't know if it will be against tromp importantly, but I just don't see com Allah based on her persistently low approval rating and her lack of tangible accomplishments so far, still a long time to go. Of course, it's not feeling to me like she would be a suit. strong candidate and twenty twenty four, but I could be wrong. We still got three years ago. Enough it's in my two cents: ok, good how things are Philippines, otherwise, ok We know what what's it what's going on election here next year

and our presidency, the vice presidency, another positions, yeah, it's out you're, not a do territory fan, it sounds like you're, not I was I was at first, but Alas, he kind or less numerous, very mind you d, J. Thank you for the call. I really appreciate it giving me very good. There is a J from the Philippines, we're going to take a very quick break. If you're holding on to talk to me, don't hang up because I'm going right back to the phones. In a moment, one of our sponsors is for signature. Headache the company best known for their delicious mushroom coffee, forcing Maddox Mushroom coffee is organic, fair trade single origin are Rebecca coffee with both lie. in the main and Chagas mushrooms chopped mushrooms have actually been shown to have potential

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leisure, and I'm a cop college student in a play: a young Biscay com, site class, a comparative politics, and I was curious european, unparliamentary democracies, because right now in the U S, we have kind of a varied. wrong gridlock in our Senate system. And I'm not, obviously I prefer presidential systems, but if we a parliamentary democracy where big, I guess, effectively get more don't you think you would be a better or worse country, for it cover broad question: I'd general belief on this and I've I've talked about it. A little bit before is that I think that a parliamentary system would bring actually many good things to the United States, where you would have either a system where you have the leader of the party

with the greatest representation in the legislature becoming typically it would be like the prime, Miss Minister or the chancellor rather than a directly elected president, I generally think it would be an improvement for the union states, although I've had some signs that there is a lot of really crazy extremists here and that really horrible part he's, which have no official representation right now could end up. Having some official represent asian, and that there are certainly a danger to that, but either way it's a very hypothetical its. earlier academic question? Does the? U S is not going to change to a parliamentary system anytime soon, I'm not like Trumpery. I got that? U S will never at no point soon write it. Point soon, and so I think that we have to try to improve things. In other me in other ways of force gap, but no I've. I like parliamentary systems as a general point

people, and am I guess it s a slight addendum to that question. We have a makes in the: U S of a single member districts that we elect to represent people and we have a proportional system. Yes, do you think be better off. We went to a hundred percent proportional. I know there's pros and cons of both but adjusting like we have a Senate that disproportionate. Represents were public and even though they have less percentage overall in the United States, the ad hoc, the Senate is fundamentally anti democratic. I've talked about this before it's not representative. You have something like the amateurs representing I'm trying to get the number right? It's like thirty, four percent of the population, senators representing thirty four percent of the population control, half of, votes, which is fundamentally unrepresentative and undemocratic. Again, it's one of these things where there No way to deny that that's the case, and it's just now.

Going to change anytime soon, and so I wonder about the prudency. focusing on it. I want to make sure people understand this. The Senate is fundamentally not democratic and not representative, but ok. So then, what do we do with that and do Just focus on that and ignore everything else that we could be working on that doesn't seem prudent either. of course, David right policies. I will try to come if I call again next time to get a more pragmatic question. I was more back, oh no! No! I am not criticising the I'm only making it like. In other words, I'm saying you are one hundred percent spot on But these issues- and I agree with you and I talk about them as well- and I wonder what is the balance of like activism capital that should be spent on one thing versus the other when these things seem very ingrained, neither counterpoint would be dead

if you don't try to activate around these things, they're gonna remained the way they are, and that's a good point too. You know so I dont know where our pragmatic versus idealist balance should be as much David. My pleasure, all right, o extraordinary phone call, their love it. Let's go next to Michael from Berlin, New Jersey. See a Michael your next day when I know I'm doing all right. You sell your and you're talking through a voice, modulator, ok, what's going on, I just to day, I guess I swear experience at the polls. Yes, but I I I I am what is? in New Jersey, and I just like to explain my experience. That was a great experience. I felt

I was really do want to democratic thing. Ok, I'm working away it didn't work out. The way I did want to buy but because I felt like I actually did my dear, so what were they actually right? Curious were their poor workers trying to electioneer in some way during their either work we did actually have a problem. They were within one hundred foot zone and people were complain. outside, but those report workers are. These were just people people trying to campaign there. hey, I hope you'll get. Did you have any issues like at on? Let there was this video. There was a picture of some guy all maggot out working the poles. You didn't have anything like that behind a desk at TAT point yeah, but we were in a rural area in New Jersey so lightly goodbye barons. So

Maybe you have that in the end like in a big city, maybe were words urban area. Ok, that's what I wanted. The ended there. We were in teams like it, you can just be. coworker not happy like it I was in charge of bringing about back into the central location, the town hall, and I teamed up with a republican and You should have happened if you want. Actually, I was the only male in the whole group out of twelve I was going now and actually cannot be breached, and she was such a. What was it He was not lay the opposite of a low information. Person like she was very spiteful, she's, very capable and competent So I guess I was then negative, really about Republicans hatch. See I just couldn't believe that she was again, but companies

and shared. I bet she was very. I would gladly work with her again now. Can I wasn't even coming up what people's party affiliations were? In other words, isn't it? What is it because we are supposed to be split of Democrats and Republicans? Yes, If you return, I will respond. Returning the balance right, and you can't do that by yourself. You have to have a fair delegation. Never again any Democrat got it got it So I think it was a good experience. I would encourage more people to to become coworkers. Yes, I do, I did say back a beautiful. Michael from Berlin, New Jersey, great to hear from you a lot of people. In fact, in the audience in emailed me and said David, I was a pole worker here I was a pole worker there quite quite compelling stuff. Let's go next,

two down from the United Kingdom Dan Year on year. How can you name it? I can about skaters, I'm a man outside designers. Sorry, I can't have had a couple of questions. I'm sorry if I ran a bad one kind of consensual political apathy is unaware Irene aid. We followed. That goes with our own troubles of the rigidity of governor rabbits. I noted that there was about free Three million violence in their did not raise that's kind of a high compared to previous elections, but right when you think about that and sole comparisons of the presidential election, I was kind of a million votes, lower, and then, when you think about all primary boats. More broadly that often so I was lower than the actual general election, but that's why you can kind of get the most ideological diversity amongst the parties probably get the most change. How do you think we could so all high? We german countries more general when you ve got so, for example,

The public not voting, even in the main elections held local government Harry you, sometimes an actress combating at twenty percent of the vote, and they control tower. So you know what your horse. I want my one, so listen, there's a couple. Different answers to this. One answer is that I believe the ideal the answer would be well listen now. The way we get people interested here Dan is, we have to make sure everybody understands the direct link between their going out to vote even in mid terms and local municipal elections. and the things that happen in their community as soon as you explained this to people, you're gonna see, voter turnout increase dramatically. It's kind of bs. In the sense that it's been, ride so many ways, and it has never really seems to work like there's just your turn. in the U S, and then there's even We're turn out for mid term suggest there there's a lower turn out and the problem with that is that it disproportionately helps whoever. can be the most salacious in their campaign

Virginia. It was Republicans who used, fear and anger to get republican voters out to fight critical, theory which they wrongly believe being taught in schools. So my real answer would be like the ideal is thick answer is: let's just explain to people how important it is to participate, doesn't really work very well. A lot of people see it almost as a badge of honor that they don't they don't know they dont boat. Rather some people see it as a background or not to work, but we're talking about voting here. They see it as a badge of honor not to vote, and if voting is not mandatory, that's considered be completely valid and that's that's that's the way it is so. The next step would be well just you may vote mandatory like it. Isn't many countries yeah? I just don't think you can see it in the? U s. I think it goes against sort of like the idea of the of the funding fundamental principles of the United States and they wouldn't be. Examined. Even so, Then we need monopoly. I think where we end up. Unfortunately, Dan is we have to accept that forty

son of eligible voters want vote in presidential elections, and sixty percent won't bow in mid terms, and you just have to figure out how do u win and achieve change. Given that reality, it's it's it's depressing. I know, but I think that that's where we are from an ethical tumble, one more him, it was kind of solving today's its. I guess like when you kind of you can, I guess, maybe election you might get solve a dozen or so called broad categories of policy. Scots, the often back. Are you planning felt about telling my principal rights burial, the opposition to taking something which is really tall? Young is, I guess, if you, if you kind of line of things by saw the harm they tore, I guess climate change could be borne. Corruption could be another luck, healthcare and so but sometimes we get the least kind of bad ones into the most damage where they get the least spoke. Is our economy is our way of life, as maybe that is all very convincing for being taken. Media environment and you kind of

it's all moving cat is our way to recalibrate accounts or public discourse about something that cause the most robin and something like I dunno, but leaders of the risk of dying from coal. We do a hundred times are grateful being killed unfortunate, Lee unless you change the infrastructure around how corporate media works you're not going to change that, because when you have profit driven media that wants to focus, the most salacious and titillating stories. Unless

you change the fact that there is a big reward for that. I dont know how you make the changes to the discourse that you're talking about. I mean parties be counter option, so we ve seen the growth of long form, podcast discussions in all these different things and that's great, but it's also great because its profitable to right, if it were completely, are not viable than you. You wouldn't say that either so that's more of a cultural thing, I dont think you change it by changing media. I think media will change as the culture changes around. What's profiteer, what what gets eyeballs yet Arthur I can move towards, like sometimes idlers missions is old, lungful podcast along full discussion about single topic, Robert Zoellick, clue bye, bye. At large, but they don't really going to any gaps, so I kind of providing told, diverse file on listening to you beyond just typical headlines over software. The BBC does these job. They may not be brilliant, but at least I don't like they even getting death. Explain it

ass a day. You telling me about a job with some friends with pleasure Dan from the UK. Great to hear from you let's see if he can redeem himself. I'm gonna go to Eric from Cancun, who had a disastrous call last time here then Eric I'm giving you another shot. Ok Eric you gotta on mute yourself, my friend no boy going from bad to worse for Eric Cancun Eric you are on the air. This is your last chance. You gotta unmeet yourself for a configure your microphone. Otherwise we're not going to be able to talk all right there. It is Eric from CAN Coon attempting to Redeem himself, but it didn't work, it just didn't work

let's try. Let's try Kevin from Seattle, Kevin you're on their misery back. Thank you hear me. I can. thanks for taking my call for the question lets you infrastructure and I dont know what will your opinions on this but think leaving me by persons infrastructure bill, leaving it, I hope, is very risky lake It is now binds approval. Ratings Democrats approve every it, especially terrible, like all of it doesn't help to follow the workers rule. Forty two fixer infrastructure at it sucks have so much oxygen in Congress from other issues in the american people, like the Bible infrastructure bill was saved. You like those representing them could get something accomplish one. So my question is: Is there credence treatise?

The moderate position from like a progressive point, if you like, is holding up the efficient bill, damaging to the material trust of the american people yeah. I so I think, leaving the bill. Idle is bad for everybody. I think either listen. Vote on the bill killed a bill. If that's, what people been in Congress want to do? House insight or pass some version of the bill in its time to move on, it's been going on for months. These bills are by and large, popular with the american people there's disagreements about specific elements of it, but I can t We agree with you just just the ongoing negotiations used to get oxygen by people like Kirsten Cinema, Joe Mansion and others. It's not it's. It's a disaster for the american people, it's gotta end and just letting it sit idle also is right, so either kill it or pass it, and then we ve got to move on to the next thing. I agree with you. One hundred percent are ethical. That's that's all

I think of it. Even if our killer rub my had had around like what were why Why does he like an opposite and opposition like what wisest later there he'll die on an like? If we care about in the american people, then I think we are doing the bill should be voted on based on its merits. Our than just I don't think they see it as a healthy diet. They're, just like you, I'm just an I'm, not the people who are sort of direct just against it, which is basically Republicans Joe mentioned, keeps talking about because he's using it to get attention, and he may actually ultimately vote for Republicans are really on the hill there just like yeah, we don't want it, so we don't support it and then, and then they move on. So it's actually doing far more damage to Democrats Kevin I got run. I appreciate the call Kevin from Seattle. I presume,

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just me, or one trump eventually passes away. All the Trump supporters will be acting like he's going to come back and resurrect like Jesus prettier thoughts, that's Bryce from from New York yeah. I mean listen that there is no question that there are many call like elements surrounding Donald Trump and he is seen almost as a pseudo deity as big as a demi God by some of his followers and went from famously said. I could shoot people on Fifth avenue and not lose support you. He was lashing onto something very real, which is that for many of his followers, the facts dont really matter, it's the idea

trump that they care about now when Trump eventually passes away? Will people literally think he's going to resurrect like Jesus, that's probably a little bit of an exaggeration, but not that by that much? I do think that he will be deified in death by whoever is still with them at that time. You know people are still flying. Look I mean just drive around in most parts of the country. You can still find some trump, two thousand and twenty flags which might even have something added onto it. Like Biden lost or now, let's go Brandon or something like that. They said they are still defying him in a sense in life, and I expect them to death literal resurrection ideology, probably not that's, probably a little too far by its Trump, its trump. So maybe I wouldn't ever assume the answer is the answer is impossible. Just wrote to me and said: might grow chips are real, Sir David

is no one else see the connection reason why there are microchip shortages for new vehicles is that they were all used in the production of the vaccines which met with much respect. Just any, I know just kidding, and there is this funny way. Sometimes it's funny. Sometimes it's not funny when different conspiracy theories or different data points come together to foment a conspiracy theory. This one's kind of funny. Here we have a microchip shortage for cars, has all the microchip during the vaccines at that ok, this one's just funny that one is not so funny, though, is the one. We looked at on Monday of someone speaking at some school board meeting and explaining that what ties all of this stuff together, who profits from the vaccines who controls the deep state all of this, if it's the jews- and that was one woman beautifully tying together in her mind, disgustingly in reality, but beautifully in her mind time together. All of these different conspiracy theories in saying the Jews are responsible for

all the stuff. We knew that it was happening because of reports. We side happen very, very real in a real way over the weekend. Next email is from Alan Alan says in response to my video about: are there really any anti vaccine religions? Alan said you overlooked and important point on religious vaccine exemptions. Alan's is David, Sir. I heard your segment unreal just exemptions for vaccines and, although you did a great job analyzing the situation, I think there's an important aspect you overlooked. I was teaching at a catholic Highschool until the end of last year. Now I'm in a public school. Thankfully, and the biggest debate was on the morality of how the vaccines were developed and not that vaccination is specifically against the religion. What I'm referring to is the cell lines of aborted fetuses used in development of the vaccines. Although we had a decent percentage of our community staff, students and families get vaccinated, we had multiple people, hesitant or objecting, because of this

a line usage again. This is not explicitly the catholic faith sang the members are forbidden from getting vaccinated, but it does introduce a lot of hesitancy which I'm sure exists through mouth, but throughout most christian faith, love your show Alan. Yet the few people- you mail me about this- and this is a good point which is my discussion last week was about. Is there actually a religion that is just against vaccination? There are individuals who are saying, because I am against abortion and because fetal cell lines were used in the development of the vaccines and the technology, even though there are not fetal cells in the injection that is being used by some, but it's I did miss it. I should have mentioned that I agree, but it's different than the question of simply it's against my religion, because that seems to allude more to the specific teachings of religion about vaccines, and I think I should have mentioned it. I'm glad that

Lee melded about it. Gara throat in this is actually an important topic. Gareth says very suspect. Florida numbers hey David in the crew, do the Florida numbers not seem incredibly low, considering the case rate is almost fifteen hundred, yet only one death per day, I've attached a photo and that the photo is exactly what Gareth describes. So there's two things going on in Florida, one of them I've talked about in Florida. They ve done this thing where they report the deaths on a delay so each week, they report the deaths from the previous week, and so it always makes it look like over the last seven or eight days. Deaths of just declined almost zero, but it's been going on for months like four months. If you look at the recent death, it looks like the last seven days or almost zero. Then they updated and then it shows up against,

That's one part of it. I also more generally, though I am wondering whether Florida is just lying or not. Fully reporting are not collecting. Not collecting would be the most realistic explanation, because the numbers just look bizarrely low relative to what's going on in other states were seen case declines in the It states, but even the numbers, more generally in Florida after the seven day kind holding period it. It looks weird it looks weird, so I think, if we're going to say Florida lying, we really need evidence, but I think that what we could suspect is given floored as lack of concern at the governors level for controlling covered and given the Santas his lack of interest in being particularly transparent. We know this based on that person who was fired for putting together the covert dash.

that more accurately reported the data. It wouldn't be shocking if there's just a sort of like air. We know really care about fully reporting, not someone going insane lie change these numbers, but it wouldn't surprise me if there is sort of like an indifference and there wasn't full reporting currently going on, certainly possible Tommy wrote to me about trump rallies and said hi David. I think you're gonna find this quite interesting. Yet every time I see a Trump rally, I see the same to people in the background. One is a black guy. with a white shirt, saying blacks for Trump and the guy by beside him, is wearing a green shirt veterans for Trump. Now, there's two different rallies they're, both behind tromp here the photos by the way love you show yet Tommy is completely right that that, in four trump. Unless Europe, but we're seeing bows but the same suppose it blacks for Trump supporters, show up at multiple rallies

My position on this is as follows: when you try to find information about blacks for Trump, as a group, there's almost nothing on the internet is just don't you try to figure out who's, who are the members who's in charge? What is the group? What exactly do they do? You find essentially nothing so the reaction from many is this: a faint group and the campaign is paying black people to stand behind Trump during rallies to make it seem like he has black support, now. I've stopped short of saying that, because I dont know that to be true and for me it feels a little weird to basically say a movement

of minority folks, claiming to have a particular position is by definition astroturf or fake, unless I have real evidence that that's what's going on, I'm not comfortable saying that it feels weird to me, but in terms of data points we do know that the group blocks for Trump has almost no footprint on line, which is strange and twenty twenty one that there are times where it see. It's been alleged that Trump affiliated groups have been recruiting. What are essentially actors people to stand holding signs at events not saying they were recruiting black folks specifically, but we have that as a data point, some of the same people appear at multiple of these rally. So that's what we know, I'm not ready to say it's all paid actors, but we ve got a number of emails about this, and it certainly seems as though there may be some,

to its, not clear how real blacks for Trump is as an organization them come completely comfortable, saying that next, the male is from Andrew and it's called cove id the new Culture war, hello, David, says Andrew. I believe that covert is the new culture war. republican, such as the whole. Merry Christmas culture war, when I didn't know of any one on the left, who really care. If somebody used merry Christmas are happy holidays, at least the merry Christmas Culture war wasn't deadly as Today's Republicans have literally entered into a death call. Also, I think all these police officers quitting for refusing the vaccine is a good thing, since the majority of them support Trump and, as a result, the police brutality.

Rate will most likely go down. A few people have actually email be dancing. Aren't the cops quitting over the vaccine thing exactly the cops that we ve been saying are the bad apples that we want out anyway. I don't know that for sure, but it's a very interesting hypothesis, which is when we talk about police brutality cetera. I believe we accurately say it's a very small minority of bad apples which can spoil the bunch for sure if there is overlap between the police, brutality, people and the cops refusing to get the vaccine Maybe we benefit from them quitting and no longer being police officers. It's a hypothesis folks, it's a hypothesis. That's all we're saying terms of the the left, doesnt really care about merry Christmas or happy holidays. I knew I agree. I've never met anyone who expressed being angry about merry Christmas being set at a store

what I would always do without getting offended just as like a kind of joke is. If someone said Merry Christmas to me, I would say: happy Hanukkah. I wasn't mad I didn't later, complain. It's just my immediate reaction, they're saying something to me based on what they celebrate, so I respond on Celebrate Christmas, but I responding how behind, if it's not relevant to them, maybe the next time they go out may also happy holidays because Merry Christmas, might I be orn? It's it's no big deal. I just confound it funny, so I entertain myself a grocery

but yeah I've never met anyone who is mad or said I need to speak of the manager. Someone said merry Christmas: it is a trumped up culture, war for sure, ok, last email today this is a different one. We had a lot of substantive emails, positive emails, questions comments. This is Mark mark rights to me about garbage and says you're left wing garbage and propaganda is the route or the route, as some say, of every thing wrong with our country. You have no business being on the air. You are garbage that is Mark, presented without comment as we get into what will hopefully be a great. We. and for everybody. Thanks for joining me, we ve got a fantastic bonus, show planned for you and we will be back next week with so much more sign up. It join pachmann dot com get instant access to today's bonus, show otherwise, no more Yukon Monday. When will you got