you know the phrase. Sometimes a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing. It really applies to a clip we're going to look at today of Lara Trump. That's Eric trumps, wife Donald Frumps daughter in law and now a Fox news contributor, we're gonna, look at video of leverage from saying she's against covert precautions, because she gets really happy she's thrilled when her children get sick. Now the context of all of this is that, before of the explosive spread of the virus again because of the delta variant, particularly on vaccinated people places around the country are saying masks are coming back on some

increasingly, employers are saying you're gonna need to be vaccinated in order to work here. Remember that Fox NEWS has a a set of rules in place where, if you're not vaccinated- and you haven't proven your vaccination through a portal that Fox has- which is like a vaccine passport, you have to keep wearing masks when you work at Fox NEWS, etc. So far, this is happening on Fox and Fox is doing a lot of stuff. Leora Trump says a whole bunch of different things that make no sense whatsoever and that she's really when her children get six or what they could look. Let's take a lax and aided Americans boxes contributor Lara Trumpets here to react worldwide. Good morning. Every morning I know you have to school age children. How do you feel about the children under the age of twelve, we'll have to wear a mask again wrote why? I think it's absolutely ludicrous. First of all, the efficacy of masks and been along this period, it was doktor fell.

to a year and a half ago, remember told us all if it makes you feel better where a mask. Why remember that was this What how many months in our we now seventeen eighteen months in for a couple. We to prevent a run on masks, doktor found she and others did not come out and say where a mask, then we learn more and that the consensus among the men call community has been mostly unchanged for all, but those first couple of weeks We didn't have to wear a mass for regional. You said it wasn't, really do anything come on, then they told us mass. Then they said three mass. They ve gone back and forth on this, but as relates to kids, I mean I can't you, it is almost impossible for my three year old son to keep mask on so the eye These kids are gonna, have to sit through an entire. in a classroom with mass on you even video. This has real I'd like to speak to the manager vibes guys. I have to tell you, kids, who are waiting for the mice crying

You don't want to have to wear the mask and gives them had eggs from a social perspective. They can see the faces of the other children. We know also, if we're following the science ainly like we were supposed to do the entire time that, thank goodness, choice, do not get cold in the same way that adults do. If they get it. We know they get a very mild case. Is there not a super spiders they that we originally were told they might be, and so the idea that we are going to make our children sit in school, master of all day long, I think, is absolutely ludicrous. There also not come in contact with journeys that they need. Developing immune system Minor Carolina last we had a cold, every parent knows the nightmare I have to tell you, I was show, through because I know that she is actually in contact with viruses in germs and bacteria.

Will allow her to develop an immune system. This is absolutely in saying that we are considering. This is another person who can First of all can understand. You might consider someone other than just your kid, because Carolina, tromp or whatever the kids name. Is it when it, because it's thrilling to her that her kid got a cold day, It's not a reason to say no masks for kids at all all even as this is spreading uncontrollably and the issue isn't kids, building up their immune system against the flu or against germs. The point here is to keep people from getting covered nineteen, which is a deadly infectious disease that can kill some people. It can land some people in the hospital, but even for people that it doesn't make very sick, they can pass it and then in fact others and possibly kill other. She doesn't seem to understand that She can't think about anybody other than maybe herself in her own immediate family with seems to run in the trunk family. If you guys have noticed, and by the way you don't have to get sick to develop immunity

You know that this idea that, if you're not getting sick, you're, not developing community, we have things called vaccines which her kids will hopefully soon be able to get even at their ages. If she'll go and get them vaccinated- and there is some- Ruth very broadly to the idea that you don't want to keep your kids in a bubble if they have zero exposure from the time their kids too, anything from a very young age, there are some studies that show that that can be problematic. That's not what's been discussed here. It's not was being discussed Larry trumps kids have been out in the world this entire time up until the pandemic and wearing a mask at school which, by the way you still get germs on your head- and then later you're out on the playground and there's dirt under different things in your around Don juniors kids. In all these different stuff, just wearing the mask at school for a few months is not

owing to do whatever it is. She thinks it's going to do to their immune system is absolutely knots, but not as nuts as this next clip. I have video for you today of outrageous lunatic, pastor, Rick Wiles, who says he was made sick by someone else. Says vaccine. This is another guy who claims that there were people shedding vaccine around him and made him sick. Ok, let's take a look at this. In its I mean, how does this guy even get to work in the morning? We are witnessing for the first time in human history, global genocide. Woe compliments The church of Satan. The communist party is the political arm of the church of Satan.

People that are running the world are our Satan us their loud killing off massive numbers of people. Tell me more say exactly what it was created to announce. This is their plan. A long list of shame, then vaccinated people into thinking that you're killing these other people, but it's the truth. It's the vaccinated seem to be carrying whenever this by a weapon. Is that their unleashing on all of us. I mean why you weapon whites when a whole year, I shook ten thousand hands last year on the campaign. Trail didn't catch, it didn't catch all last year, wasn't until people surging vaccinated, he was hurrying really says so on, and I am convinced that my infection and the they explain We had here in our staff among my family friends, twenty some people. Altogether infected? Suddenly, I believe it came from a the native person coming in this building.

Who is shutting the virus. I believe that's how it happened. Dat's the culprit, a vaccinated person now background on Rick. Whilst this is the guy who once said that the north korean threat was caused by gay people, he said people and die because of gay marriage. He said that us kind of numerology thing proves Barack Obama killed Supreme Court Justice, Antonyms Scalia he said, vegan burgers or a satanic plot, to destroy the souls of people, he said if Trump is removed, there would be violence he well, it is that Trump lost, he wasn't removed and there was violence, but it was the trumpets he wore of a Jew coup to remove Trump, and now he says that it was the vaccinated person, the one vaccinated person that made everybody sick. Now, as I have said, for there's no way to be affected in any way by people around being vaccinated with the covert vaccines used in the United States other than your less likely to die. If people around Europe vaccinated, if you're sick with coded,

Your body can release particles of the virus when you call it if you are vaccinated with a vaccine that contains live virus. There is a short period of time during which you could be shutting the virus None of the covert vaccines used in the United States use live virus. There is no physiological mechanism for that to happen with Hope vaccines in use in the United States you can. Viral shutting after a vaccine if is a live virus vaccine? The? U S? Is not using such vaccines and but it doesn't matter Rick Wiles. Is he convinced? Is he just saying it? I don't know but more. Dangerous anti vaccine rhetoric, is there any good news? Well, I think the good uses more and more power

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a faith you were on their Octavia. Can you hear me and my echoing I can hear you fine faith- are wide file got to talk to you. Likewise up my question and is so I'm kind of sick of the past petitions and it's been infrastructure weak forever. I kind of one a bypass all this stuff. I'm a nurse home administrator, this pandemic has been how on us and kiddos. Ah I say kiddos, but anybody who is the disabled and in a nursing home has very little resources and they ve been stuck inside. An isolated, unfortunately

and well Carnea, someone who has been our nor show- and you have spoken Too- is of a bad bout- is as has called me and I have an infrastructure proposal and I wanted to see what your thoughts on it are you in southern California, we have one hundred and sixteen community colleges all of them have child care on campus and its great for students, the community and its great for building job experience for this first students on campus. If we could build adult day care on campuses that would be accepting. That is such a big need.

add to be filled as that something you ve ever heard of a guy. I have not heard of it base, but I love the idea and it similar to the idea of postal banking. Let's create the up and the possibility of banking at the Post office, so that people who were unbalanced or maybe live in places where there is a post office, but no bank would have readier access to banking services. I love that type of idea of thinking outside the box. In that way, I dont know exactly how it gets carried out and jurisdictional. We from a regular Croatian anyway, there's complications but yes, faith, a very good idea, but I thank you and so we're trying to push it with for their national. The structure we cause. It's been infrastructure weak forever. So if you people with disabilities in mind, you're a great advocate

I love your show if you could continue to advocate for people with disabilities and their family there so isolated, and it sucks, because the people with the biggest hearts and If I find that in California, we had these community colleges with child can risk if we can get a dependent care on campus, imagine that on a national scale, these this community would be so much more supported. And, less isolated, creating jobs and creating opportunity, thank you very much. I appreciate the thank you very much. There is faith with real. A great idea It's a very, very interesting idea: let's go

next to Toby from Kansas, Toby you're on their fellow canary Jessica, high David. I call about a month ago, and I haven't you ever call me in the middle of our comrades dashed out, so I just want to apologize for that. My question is surrounding the the conversation you have just me about student loan cancellation. I was wondering what you're like final position was more vey. You do want universal. cancellation or you looking for more. They a bottom up approach where my cotton, SAM Cedar recently had a conversation with destiny about that which conversation of minor you referring to. Oh, I was referring to your posts discussion. I I think you guys had a quick like some up to new and you go talking about whether it should be. Oh, I don't know how does it and I don't think we talked about that adult no I've talked before. I am not understanding the case for full student loan cancellation period flat out it the impact

It is not clear to me would actually be progressive and I'm not sure what the justification is just for saying: pay everybody's debt period altogether, so now I, but no I didn't talk about that, would destiny after that. I did talk tooth destiny recently after his SAM Cedar thing, but we didn't really talk about the student loans stuff. Now too, as our you originally from Kansas as you may say about eight years ago from the Uk- that's making sense here! No, because you didn't, I mean I've only been to Kansas once, but I didn't hear people with your accent there no deftly now, I'm in the college town. So it's a lot less a lot more left, leaning than the rest of Kansas, icy and Stephanie defamation. Definitely differently. You that's for sure does ensure alright Toby. Thank you. I appreciate the call I did have one more thing. I just want to say: is your family back in Argentina happy for lino messy for winning the corporate, Amerika or

see like some other continuance, as I understand that they kind of prioritized Maradona's success on you know, I've been everybody in my family is very pleased with the with messes victory. Yeah right will. That brings Joyce my heart and I get one. Thank you very much. I appreciate that yeah big victory in the Copa Amerika for Argentine. Oh, it was an incredible. It was an historic day. I think I would I would even venture to say: let's go next to Bobby from Savannah, that Savannah Georgia Bobby, I yard, is actually that's great Herman. Yes, I can agree on wall. I just wanna get quick as I have to go to work soon is a real symbol. Clashings. I know you ve been talking to your audience about incentives to get people who are backs. You have to get back to NATO right.

I noticed I even saw this on Twitter. I think New York City there actually can give a hundred dollars to people who get back tonight it. I don't understand why we can't does do a thousand dollars from the federal government if your backs needed wore a thousand. seems like a lot. I dont know that are now I don't know the math of it a hundred. Is it a hundred dollars cash or a hundred dollar tax credit any way, any tax credit? I think the one in New York is eggs. They're gonna give whoever gets vaccinated a hundred dollars on the spot, while I could be on. I just saw that but I don't understand why we want these pan people to get back to me that this point yes, I hadn't done. I haven't heard about the New York thing, but I think financial incentives would be fine. You know for people who say: oh, we can't afford that listen, we can. We can actually figure out for a given on vaccinated population. What is the likely

of a hospital zation death, all of the Associated costs incurred, including productivity loss and loss of tat. You can figure out and you can be, like ok for the average ten thousand person population. We expect to spend x amount of money divide that by ten. Thousand. Let's just give that two people and then you that you yet. I think that the math would favour something like that. It, my instinct is a thousand dollars is not the number maybe it's a hundred, but that's very interesting effect, which was being done. Grass I mean my may bring about a thousand dollars, is Andrews, basing it off by the Cypriot was checks by regardless, like the amount, if we go under lock down again we're going to have what trillions of economic, what young productivity of absolutely go and, like I dont think, even all these people who will position and virtue signal about

Not one is a vaccine. I dont think they'll put up those excuses, bear out the option media two thousand- that maybe just maybe I mean- I think the other thing you have to remember also Bobby is that there is lots of states that are never going back into lockdown, no matter what does so. So it's also HIV that make for better or worse, but their states that made it clear, no matter what happens, we're not putting any any guidelines back on. I mean, if I feel and give another string comes out, that the taxing doesnt work. I've been on the medical student. My understanding is that this dealt variants coming gets more infectious, but there can always be some sort of mutation in this fight. Poverty is associated with the scene and then void the actual tore here there could be a vaccine evading variant delta. Is here? Ninety percent of U S cases now, I believe or delta you're, right that its relatively well handled by the vaccine, yeah, of course in those states, could change but

I like? The idea do attacks credit or cash on the spot when people complete a vaccination dose. Why not? I am plus, I think especially now. I do think there still probably issues regarding unemployment stuff like that people still need money there there or port portions of this nation, like I'm from this out. Everything but I know in other parts of the country there is a little bit more got more guidelines and more restrictions that are leading to weather the workers. Business owners not having enough access to just demand we're all I heard us demand yeah me. Listen things are different, but ass. It is, thing. For the most part, businesses or businesses are open, things are open and and so on and so forth, but things are

they get very ugly if we don't get more people vaccinated. So I appreciate you bringing it up. Thanks. Aren't thanks, so much appreciate that there's Bobby from Savannah we have folks not only from all over the country, but quite frankly, from over the world who are hoping to chat with me today, I'm meant to do my best to speak to at least a few of them. Let speak next the Gabriel, from Colorado, Gabriel you're on the air. I yes again, ok It is not so much a question, but I do think it is important for people to hear that a month ago, I was a month and a half ago, on my part, who is varied while the new year thousands are contracted, painted nineteen and twenty one as the active it to reconsider,

he passed away, then I just thought- oh, my God, labour, I'm so sorry to hear that Gabriel, that's absolutely horrifying. Yet I knew there has been a little rough, but to at least we are preparing a unless they're out of a story for people in Europe are far I mean. Close likelihood anybody, it's. You may think your family member may think that they are so because he was safe. As you now stop laments the exercise of this programme.

Well, is it it has everybody else seen it as a wake up call if people were on vaccinated to get vaccinated, as far as I know how aloof within a family for the most part, people our understanding as America has been partly for everybody in their separate invoking similarly sullen further there's perspective, though she's going vaccinated, but at least he has two breeding sector Are you so you're? Your mom is aware that your dad died of this and she still doesn't want to get vaccinated, waffling cell, nor a lot of room. Why? Even w fora. We need only like underground kingdom at this. United highlights speaks out against that, whatever I want not about fair address the carbon tax law.

Well yeah, ah well, Gabriel. I am so sorry to hear that and if anything, I hope that somebody will hear this it'll be a cautionary tale and will go and get themselves vaccinated. Rival, aright be well. My friend. Oh ok, take care. While I mean like this and that's that's what it is right that mean that's the that's the story. That's the story. We keep hearing time and time again a let's go next to why don't we speak to Thomas from Massachusetts, Thomas you're, on their? Yes again,

So first of all, I hear you're from masses wall. So, however, from the snow and ice achieves its centres are ye. I grew up in Massachusetts and actually from Argentina now in New York, but I'm intimately familiar with Massachusetts. Some while she is usually daring, then terms the incumbent political party lists of seats, yes and as like, we know, even with us to a majority Republicans already bottleneck in legislation, so my main concern is making sure we, when the house and centre and the new terms, so so Havana tracking, like I'm, I'm gonna, I'm not even sure that were so way with a slim majority. Damn Republicans, have a slit. The Republicans are in the minority. Now an Democrats control the House answer

What are you saying you want Democrats to retain control in the fall? I just want to make sure we were on the same page as to what the situation is right now here I was referring to the Senate. Highlight only common Harris is giving us the advent Eddie, I want more control, got it gotta got it. So I was thinking. Do you think we should go like the milk toe centre left shroud of just trying to unify everyone take the more progressive luck stance to get more people not taken taking the milk toe centre. Left approach won't unify everyone. I think that that's the mistake, it's not! It will but will lead to the this this enter and the right, we'll call centre left extreme leftism and then and the progressive and further left will call centre left republicanism, and I think it's just that there is no evidence whatsoever that doing that is actually going to help anybody on the left. I was a very good one.

I just want to get your verification on ya know. I would I mean, I think, what makes senses you figure out, what the national platform is going to be and then you figure out how to win races in the different states in which you running, and it may be different to win a race in Florida than to win a race in Washington State as a Democrat, and I think it's ok to run the races differently in different states. Ok, you got it that's all. I had already explicitly appreciated. Thank you very much. Let's take a very quick break, and then, if you're holding don't hang up because I'm gonna go right back to the phones and just a second one of our sponsors as privacy, dot com there, giving you five dollars when you sign up for their completely free service at privacy, DOT Tk, slash. Pachmann I've been using privacy for a little over a year. Now you ve heard we talk about it before it's a lifesaver and here's how it works, takes just a couple of minutes to set up any time you buy.

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I just want to say things, but can you hear me along Quito guess again with the republic of parents like mine, who are completely against the vaccine and cover now and for someone who hang on. They are not. Let me take at all. I'm almost seventeen miles reasons are not political. I know that my dad's are. They are fox viewers every now and then they they are complete yeah. Their complete report gives at all they don't trust the signs in all that their low. But what is your message to those teenagers?

here who are not allowed to get the vaccine so to be clear, you're, saying you're, not all your parents won't allow you to get the vaccine. Is that right? That is correct. Ok, the first thing is in some states? You don't need your parents to allow you to get it when you're seventeen have you first explored what the the the lies in your state. I have not okay, so the first thing to know is in many states when you're seventeen you can just go and get the vaccine they dont. You dont, need your parents to do anything. So if you were to decide that that something you want to do Legal, you could investigate whether that's a possibility. Does that make sense. Yeah. Ok, second part, is how far from being eighteen. Are you six not ok month so at the most in five months. You can get the vaccine right. I mean no matter what, even if you can't get it today because of the bill, you need parent brindle permission in five months. You can get it. So what I would say is where a mask and be careful until that time.

I mean you know your parents better than I do it. It sounds like a lost cause. Trying to convince them right, like you're, not gonna, be all to convince light. My mom she she's arching worth afraid of me. I should say like I think, that's what you need. A like. We need to understand is like why sometimes are not to be taking. It is because of like my mom, always tells it see it's just a style of it and my dad says boy. You know J J, that's that's not what modern Pfizer's are doing in all, but my mom's always taught saying though, but there's always report about Jane J Common now about you know these. These heart problems is done. That's all they talk about yeah, I mean you know, listen again. The question is: does it make sense to argue with your parents and say the risk of covert is much greater than the risk of the heart thing, but I just

don't know, because you might be able to go, get vaccinated now, depending on the lawn, your state or in five months. You can. I just don't know if it's worth fighting with them. I just I don't know yeah. I never tried doing that because again, I know what they really do believe in. If I, if I really try to tell him the truth in all day, they are, really they are really third against here. Let me ask you this is raised. It is your mom less against it than your dad. I don't think so. I think she's not really a guest at the cheating again more sceptical that she's a sceptic but what I'm saying is if there was one parent who would be more ok with you getting the vaccine, would it be your mama? Your dad pro, My dad yeah, ok so maybe when your mom's not around you, go to your dad and you say dad listen, I need to be protected. I need to go and get the vaccine. Will you come with me so that I can get it and just see what he says.

Ok, I mean, I don't know and again really you might be it you. This might be moot because seventeen year olds in your state might be able to just go give accident. Did you might not need your parents permission yet I have to look into it. Look it up all right out and let us know how it turns out. Ok, ok, thank you! Yeah! That's that's tough army. We get a lot of calls like that. It's it's it's pretty wacky, wacky? Why don't we go next to John from Philly John Year on year?. Welcome home, how are you, day hey. This is John from the you are right and living and fairly You remember. I remember how I remember you. I'm doing well Are you aware so my question is: why as they deal with day with democracy.

it, was a girl in the without these prior infrastructure beer, though they trying to ports, Are you talking about Chuck humor? I'm not sure who you mean, I'm not a deal. You know in the Senate. They they tried to push the infrastructure to rear neighbours who says thing anything I guarantee. Do you yeah? The dairy pull account wearing control, all the how this signal the White House, they were pushed deeper immediately horse. Oh my goodness, John F Republicans were in the situation. Democrats are and right now everything would be done, data Tax Reform day. They would just behind what is to do with the Democrats hoarding of the bear on the stand

well. Holding up a major part of the problem. John is not. The Democrats are even on the same page about what they want to pass. You have people like Joe Mansion and cursed in Cinema who dont want the same things that Bernie Sanders wants and because they have of of the slimmest possible majority, nothing gets done. That's what's going on here, aren't warm via again to the same thing like you're, ok, all again may, bought the bare something, but you know they control the White House. You know yeah, you know maybe biting Camp Porsche. We owe you know. We also boy anybody, neurons controlling. Whilst I agree and listen John, if Joe Biden doesn't get something me you're done with Democrats in what's left of this calendar year, I think Democrats get crushed in next year's, mid term elections

I guess I guarantee that those gonna happen. I regard the gully, though you know they waiting for nothing, get there, what what are they doing? It makes I completely agree with you John, doesn't mind, also you're waiting for nothing, you're you're, absolutely right level? Let's see, let's see if they get anything done our available nice Do you have one of those Youtube? There's John from Philly wait to hear from him as always, why don't we go next to Vincent from LA sands? less what's going on and allay these days Vincent, oh, that much I haven't been outside in the world

good to get the summer that vitamin d now there I I wanted to call him and ask basically like I was near, show allotted it's an honor to speak to you learned. A lot of things had such really like, I don't know, is listening allotted. What's going on with the sort of purging of the Republican Party in Gets me and now what's going on climate and covered, it's me really nervous. I was wondering if you could maybe talk about things that have been going on that might give. You are like hope as too your things going better in the world. The idea I mean, listen, it's like a few it. What might be for you and may be. Others is sign up for a good news news letter. There are a lot of these, which just tell you about good things that have gone on you. Look at how long or p living on average after being diagnosed with all types of cancer survive ability,

has gone up. You look at either. You can find positive things going on look at the increased if continued, increased efficiency of solar panels, for example, or look at the way in which many countries have shifted more and more tool towards alternative energy. You can definitely find that stuff, but it's so a reality that there's a lot of really bad things going on right now I think it's important to kind of sea. Both you know near now, I'm curious when you say you are you're now you're, not not going out because you're depressed about all these things that are going on in your just staying home right are the two things you mentioned their separate issues that, to some extent, some extent. Oh, are you like kind of depressed and just not leaving your house just dealing with some, so once I like one of the greatest things that's cause me shares lake. In particular lakes. The fear of nuclear weaponry around the world

and that's making you stay home in some sense yeah and I'm not much. I want to talk about it, but while I mean on a very practical level, do you think you're safer nuclear fallout at home, rather than you know down the street at a cafe. is, it seems either way. If there's nuclear fallout you you just, might be screwed I don't know how to know that. I would worry that much about it in that way. That sets a very good point I guess I'm just thinking like if there's a if there's a nuke, that's gonna be dropped, I'd almost rather be at the basketball court or at the pond, rather than in my house, because either way it's gonna be bad and I have no control over it. That's my thought. You know yet else. Understandable now try to get out there maybe take a ten minute walk today. You know yeah. You know I think I'll go ahead and do I like now and I'll, take a look at some of the things you mention as two up

the sign, let's go change, let's do it and I want to hear from you again. Okay, let me know how goes Thank you very much greater. We gotta get out there with that sad. makes me sad. We really you know staying at home. In order to avoid the bomb I mean I'd rather having a cappuccino, you now, I think, that's the that's the situation for me all right. Why Don't we speak next to let speak to let's go international. Let's speak to Carl from Stockholm.

Carl from Stockholm. Are you on our? Are you on muted? Can you hear me? That's too bad? I was hoping to speak to Carl, let's go to skit so from North Carolina you're on the year eighteen. Yes, I can also pleasure to stress here that I found your show not too long ago. I have a couple questions Logan. I then dealing wish some kind of a little nervous, but I've been doing with my fiance, who is buying into all of these conspiracies that are going around and basic,

the she has put an ultimatum in the relationship. She's basically said that if I give vaccinated, it would be the end of our relationship and it's it's really stressing the out, because I am constantly lake researching and finding that the the claims of conspiracy theorist don't hold water. That's right when you actually do the research that verandah so but the problem is I've. Seen her go from being completely afraid of this when it first started, and then I attach.

to these conspiracies as a way to cope with the fear. The up that she was having that's very kind. I was as very calendar. People would rather take solace in that the conspiracy which suggests that we have much more control over things than we actually have. It's scary that this might be an out of control pandemic, so folks would rather believe whatever conspiracy theory about the virus or the vaccine. That's very common! Yet the problem on finding myself. It is because I I I haven't gotten vaccinated yet, and I really do want to because I house. Basically, I have a one year old child and I am not willing to take the risk that I won't be here for him, and that makes a lot of sense. But for her it's not that for her. It's. It seems that if I do so, it's almost like a religious belief where

it offends her that it will be the end of our relationship and basically its boil down to. If I do this, I am a stupid person for falling into yes, this whole thing. So do you have any recommendations like well most right hands, so let me ask you, have a question. Is this? Is this the the mud of the one year old you just mentioned. Yes, it is ok and how long have you been together about three three years now and do you would you want to continue together? Yes, absolutely boil, I'm willing to turn to stick around cause. I also I'm afraid of the issues that will happen if I'm no longer. in the relationship and we shall do in order to keep me away from my son that it's not really scary thing. That's a skirt! Let me listen! Eminem eminent, I dont know the full situation and ultimately you have to decide. But let me ask you this: have you thought about just getting?

accelerated and not telling her not talking about yes, yes, that has been my conclusion these past day or two. I actually talk to a friend and he's like listen this. I know it sucks, but maybe that's just the thing to do, though, only so I've. I figured that that's probably the best option for me, but now I thought of what am I going to do when I get my acceleration card, because we're gonna be going to organ it be going out of town soon and theirs. I find what I think I try to think of head and will they will there be a situation where we are? We are going to be allowed to do something on this. We had wish or of acceleration card, and she no I'm going to be vaccinated but she's not and will listen, honey, I'm on? Basically, you would just if you want to keep it secret. You would just have to be like if there's, if she's not going to be allowed to do that thing anyway. So then maybe you're, just

If not doing that thing and you don't need to worry about it? Just just go out. You'll you'll be vaccinated, but you can go out and do your on vaccinated life with her I mean it. I agree that it sucks, but if the priority is you think it could be a really bad situation for your child, and so you wanna, I ain't. I it's really hard for me to give serious. You know, did too seriously give advice, big I dont know the full situation, but my immediate mine goes to at least get yourself vaccinated and just don't mention it so that you are less likely to get the virus and spread it to her. I that's kind of what I've come to there's. Only just one question I have left undone its. I I want to give extra needed, but I want to not give it away that backs and aided by having side effects, so I dont know what you recommend. Oh you just say, you're feeling under the weather I mean the sit. The side effects you would have would be sort of like feeling a little bit colder flew like so you just say I've by militia

got a cold. You know who you said when you got vaccinated, you get the which, when did you get, I got modern sorry cut off. I can I got Madonna. Ok, rights gets out sounds complicated, sounds like gum, we're having a connection issues. So many let you go, but that's that's! A tough situation. Does the tough situation, our guys, I've taken all the calls I can take today. We will take calls again very soon. One of our sponsors today is blue, chew a unique online service, delivering these same active ingredients as Viagra and see Alice Innate Shoe, obol form and at a fraction of the cost and the giving my audience and entire month supply for free. So if you think you could benefit from an extra boost of confidence, all you have to do

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has it yes, I believe July. Thirty first is actually the day that the federal eviction moratorium, that's covert, related. What will come to an end, but there's a bunch of different ways. which explain why you are not going to see nearly even majority of the people currently in theory, instead in at risk of getting evicted, get evicted, Dean Baker. The economist talk to us about this last last week he said the number being bandied about is about eight million people could get evicted but that he leaves in reality. It will be more like eight hundred thousand and as he said, it doesn't mean we don't care about the eight hundred thousand, but aid. thousand evictions nationally is necessarily going to be of major economic disaster, doesn't mean we don't care about the people. Doesn't me we don't need to fix the situations that has a few different things that you have to remember. First of all, depending on what state or even the city. You live in the fact that the federal

moratorium guidance from the CDC ends on July. Thirty first doesn't necessarily impact you, because there are states and in some cases, even cities that are choosing different dates. So there are already some states with moratoria or moratoriums colloquially, that are in place that will no longer and two of the states or some of the states with the largest populations that California, Texas and New York have protections that go beyond July. thirty first already, both for residential as well as for business evictions, you ve got other states like Illinois, Oregon, Hawaii, New Jersey, Washington in New Mexico they have their own guidelines in place that go longer than July. Thirty, First Texas has local fiction moratorium that has been extended to, I believe its October first or maybe October thirty first. So the there's the idea that on us,

Good day, all these people are going to get evicted there. The reality, as many states have already extended that the other reality, and this doesn't help people. It's just from an economic shock, perspective its important. It takes a long time to evict people and it takes a different amount of time. Indifferent, municipalities, it can take, months and months to evict people. I know various lawyers that work on evictions, both with tenants and with landlords. Often it's the same lawyers that work with both not in the same case, but work with both they say depending on the state you you could take three to even six depending on. If it's a place where it gets cold in the winter, there are even bigger restrictions in place all the time. So there's going to be single day of evictions, now one additional factor here California and New York have announced programmes where they are going to pay pass, do rent for a lot of people who are at risk of getting evicted

in those places when the moratoriums finally do end there aren't you, to be massive evictions, because the states have put in place these programmes. So for me the bigger question is the following: so many people live paycheck to pay check. You miss one paycheck. you miss a payment for your rent. You can essentially never catch up. There is an emergency, you ve got a health and plan with a two thousand dollar deductible and something happens where you ve gotta pay the two thousand dollars all at once, and so you miss her rent payment. You essentially can never catch up, and that is a bigger reality that whatever you feel about paying pass, you rent, like California, for example, put in place doing, even if you feel it s the right thing to do or whatever

even getting a lot of people out of the current situation. Imagine someone who's behind on rent because of the pandemic lost their job. Now, they're kind of keeping up but they're not able to catch up. They're gonna end up put statistically anyway. Some percentage of them are going to end up back in that situation anyway, because so many people are living paycheck, the paycheck, that's not gonna change, even with rent forgiveness. The last thought on this. There are people who say that, because real estate prices have become so overblown in many parts of the country that an eviction and even a foreclosure crisis would be a really good thing. It would pull down on prices, and that is not necessarily wrong in some states, but there is a question as to whether we should hope for misery and stress and anxiety of being evicted as a path towards a modest reduction and how

in prices, which may or may not even be permanent, so that's kind of a bigger discussion, but that's the bottom line on it they're not going to happen all at once, not that many are actually going to take place and you ve got a real pay attention to what is happening in your state and in your municipality, in particular David likely that if Trump runs in twenty four, he will be unopposed in the republican primary, no trump. If he runs in twenty, four trump will almost certainly be up. Posed the question is whether it will be a serious challenger wicked. If we were to imagine What is the most serious challenge that Donald Trump could face? One school of thought would be somebody like Mitt Romney runs an anti trump Republican with some name. Recognition, I dont know that Romney gets more than ten or maybe fifteen percent in a republican primary. I think, way. Things are right now Trump owns, republican Party from crushes, basically whoever tries to running

and then the one name that seems to have more power against Trump would be run. Dissent is who is essentially a more competent trump, which is extraordinarily Dangerous even descend to seems to have only low twenties. I think it in a couple of recent strongholds. It something like twenty one, twenty two percent support, or something like that. So at this point in time, this nomination is trumps for the taking. If he wants it, if he wants it, I don't think anybody else is going to be able to mount successful challenge. You have your dog about what about Lee some Rakowski or something. Now I just don't see it. I just don't see the name recognition. I just don't see the interest level so to speak in supporting her over Trump went from this sort of the de facto and as if the rise of today still widely supported by the Republican Party. I think that too,

perspective on this. Let me go back when I was on Michael Cohen's podcast a couple of weeks ago, Michael Cohen, said he doesn't think ultimately that Donald Trump runs and he had a number of different reasons that he gave. We uploaded that to our Youtube Channel and you can check that out. If you want to hear more about that, but one the arguments about why Trump ultimately won't run is tromp is able to raise money and benefit from kind of alluding to running and doing events and and asking people to donate, to the Save America Packer whatever, but not actually saying I'm running,

and maybe never actually running the idea being raised as much money as he can get as much attention as possible. Paralyzed the parties. So the party can't say ok he's not running, but they also can't say he is running as for as long as trumpets doing speeches and talking about, I think you'll like what we decide but not announcing a candidacy. He paralyzes the republican party. He keeps people under his thumb and that's exactly what Donald Trump wants to do, and you can just keep drifting his supporters new report. He raised meta, who knows tens of millions of dollars over the last six months, claiming it's all to fight the election results he has spent no money on fighting the election results, because the Elect

he was nine months ago and nothing is going to change, but that's what Trump wants to do. We wants to keep raising money, so I also see that even if Trump is not ultimately going to run, it's very much to his advantage to pretend that he is my instinct is: if he's healthy and two thousand and twenty two goes. Okay for the trunk wing of the party trump runs, that's my opinion only Michael. Instead, I think he doesn't run in the end and ego was a factor and a few other things we will just have to wait and see, but the best case scenario, Oh for Trump would be that this caught if he is ultimately going to run that keeping this situation in limbo prevents the Republican already from really getting behind anybody else in particular, it prevents- their people from really building support, because Trump still has the majority of the electorate supporting him, and then you know he says I'm running. If that's indeed what he's

what to do when he doesn't even give oxygen to a possible serious primary challenge. The other thing would be what, if from parents third party. I don't even really want to get into that right now, because I see it as very, very unlikely. But if you, if the scenario you think is the most likely is Trump runs. Third party. I would love to hear from you, hey David, why dont Republicans focus on policy instead of culture war issues? Wouldn't it be better for them? Electoral early, I dont know that it would be, and the reason that I say that is its not clear to me that Republicans actually have the support to win on the issues. If report, what what was it that Donald Trump did that prior Republicans didn't do that essentially gave Trump the victory and twenty sixteen it was that he ran a campaign

based on cultural issues and personal attacks and fears about communism, socialism, Hilary etc, where his voters didn't actually have to evaluate policy and say: does the policy actually sound good to me Some examples where the Republican Party, if they were to run on policy, would have a problem. Abortion is still used raise a lot of money by republican candidates. But the truth is that the american public is more in favour of abortion being legal. In most cases, then it at any time in the Roby Wade era. So, if Republicans, really made abortion a bigger issue. It might not be so good for them. If you look at the republican perspective,

on taxation when you really get down to it? I've said a lot of bad things about the populist movements and how they can bamboozle people, but one of the things that the more populist republican base has gone towards is to be more hostile to tax plans that are just good for rich people now trump still past one. That is mostly that, but because policy was so secondary and the Cultural issues were more important. Tromp was able to achieve an electorate that really doesn't care very much. What is policy as most of the things he promised? He was we're going to be able to do and it didn't even matter no one actually held them accountable and, ultimately, what brought from down his mishandling of the covert pandemic. I maintain that if the covered pandemic, hadn't happened and because Trump mishandled at right did there's the idea well, Trump could have handled it well in one yeah, tromp was not going to handle it. Well, if Trump didn't end up having to mishandle covered

but he almost certainly would have been re elected and to me when you say why doesn't the Republican Party run on policy, it seems to me it's actually better, for them are literally to run on these cultural issues were against critical race theory. Nobody can even defined at these people back barely know what it is, but it gets so much oxygen. Think about the coverage of critical race theory on Fox NEWS over the last three to four months and then think of how it fires the base and it spreads. I mean these means spread like wildfire. Money is raised, I'm coming out in opposition of critical race theory in schools, donate to me. Imagine if the maritime. It had been about like tax policy. They would not have gotten the attention that they did and so to me it actually seems you know same thing with were against communism and socialism, Joe Biden making this a communist nation, you ask these people. What is communism? They have no idea, and this allows them.

to continue moving forward without ever really having to be accountable for bad policy by just not talking about policy, I actual I am increasingly of the mindset that Republicans do better right now by talking about the cultural issues, then they do by actually switching over to policy check out my segment from earth this week, whether a culture war is even winnable, because that's another factor that the left has to consider. But I dont think that I think it's disgusting in terms of the debasement of american political discussion that there's one party that doesn't even pretend to care about policy. That's really bad for the country, but I think it Probably, in a sense, the better choice for the Republican Party in terms of winning elections, because they have a constituency that wants to just fight and yell and scream and cheer about culture.

issues and they don't really want to deal with policy in any serious way. That's why Trump one in twenty sixteen were it not for covered. He would have one in twenty twenty as well. Send me your thoughts if you disagree with it How do you want to hear from you? We have a great bonus show for you today sign up at joint. pachmann Dotcom get instant Access and Cuba