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8/18/21: The Truth in Afghanistan, The Reality of COVID-2021

2021-08-18 | 🔗

--On the Show:

--Discussing the fiasco that Afghanistan has become, including the inevitability of the power vacuum that led to the Taliban taking power, and the absolute need to end the failed American involvement in the country

--Republican hypocrisy on small government, non-interventionist conservatism has reached new heights during the COVID-19 pandemic era

--Republican Texas Governor Greg Abbott tests positive for coronavirus days after participating in multiple large indoor events, and will receive expensive monoclonal antibody treatment despite being vaccinated and having no symptoms

--Republican Governor Ron DeSantis's Florida continues to be an absolute COVID hellscape

--Republican Texas official H. Scott Apley mocked coronavirus on his social media, and five days later died of coronavirus

--Vocal anti-vaccine and anti-Fauci right wing radio host Dick Farrell has died of COVID-19 complications

--The Department of Homelands Security is monitoring increasing demands for violence from Trump supporters in the event that Donald Trump is not reinstated to the White House, which he obviously will not be

--A large portion of unvaccinated Americans are blaming "the media" for the explosion in COVID cases being seen in the United States

--Voicemail caller explains that two of his friends are obtaining fake COVID vaccination cards

--On the Bonus Show: David's vacation stories, including COVID testing and much more

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This is an unofficial transcript meant for reference. Accuracy is not guaranteed.
welcome to the show it's great to be back. I know I'm tan, please no emails about me being tan. I wore sunscreen. I did all of it. We have a lot of major major, use events during the period that I was gone. Farren and Jesse did a really great job of staying on top everything for you, and I want to start today with the most requested segment over the last seventy two hours, which was Peter coming to me in saying David, Sir, please tell us what you think about. What's going on in Afghanistan now as any of you who have been with the chauffeur awhile may remember you may not, but you may that but we'll find out soon,
You might remember that I talked about the Afghanistan withdrawal when Donald Trump planned to do it and announced that he was due. And I talked about it again when Joe Biden announced hey that pause, we put on trumps, Afghanistan, withdrawal, weave, evaluated it, and we are going to do it and it's gonna happen by September. Eleventh, President Joe Biden is now being widely criticised for his actions in Afghanistan, which are carrying out the plan to remove troops that Donald Trump and Republicans up bragged about out and cheered for four months during the end of Donald Trump Presidency. Now, that's not me starting to say: well, I'm in a blame here or there, it's just the reality. What Biden did was to go forward with more or less the plan that Donald Trump announced in that trunk cheered and that trumpets cheered. Predictably, just like we said, but a few months ago,
whether it was Trump leaving or Biden leaving. It would cause chaos, but at a certain point our responsibility has to end because our involvement has been Disaster staying longer, won't solve anything. The Afghanistan intervention failed really important in these cases. When people start saying, oh, we left the wrong way, or we did. We can talk about that, but at a certain point our involvement had to end, even though to Biden ascending six thousand troops back in now. What we'll get to end. It was going to be a fiasco whenever it ended. Those things were essentially above the did. They were certain, regardless of which president was in the oval office. When this happened, so we could stay and keep failing. We could leave the vacuum when we left, as was worldwide news earlier this week, immediately lead to the Taliban taking over and then all sorts of different hot takes jobs.
And left the wrong way. We do have to ensure the safety of our people and to be empathetic when it comes to refugees that we, I am on board by saying there should have been better advance action to prevent some of what we saw there, but unfortunately, a lot of it was essentially inevitable. As we said months ago, the same people pro Trump Republicans who now are ignoring that Donald Trump had the same plan are starting to say. This would have been totally differ, and if it had been managed by a different president surely no it wouldn't been and are some trumpets, as well as people on the left, who just don't like Joe Biden, who are now saying? Well, the vacuum allowed the Taliban
Take over and we didn't do enough to get our people other people refugees out in time. If we had done the get people out in time part, you think those people would be satisfied know those very same people would just be focusing on the Taliban took over and we would be seeing the exact same reactions from those people and sadly, there are tons. Of bad faith actors on both sides on this issue. Now I'm not saying the same number of people on both sides. I would be called out for playing the both sides game if I did that, but there are bad faith actors on both sides right now you have people on the right saying terrible decision by Joe Biden when Trump was going to do this it was going to be totally different. No trump would have done it in the exact same way. Don't let them lie and say Trump had some master plan for preventing what happened, trumpet no master plan for anything. The idea,
wouldn't he would have had such a plan, for Afghanistan is absolutely absurd. Trumpet have done the exact same thing and by the way, all the reference, is to this brief, being trumps plan. All along some We removed from the GEO P website trumps website it within hours of this going down in Afghanistan. All of those references to trumps plan to get out of Afghanistan deal with the Taliban, etc. It's a bald faced attempt to revise history, then the left saying this is the typical centrist a crap foreign policy of Joe Biden. You go in for the wrong reasons and then you, cotton run, will hold on a second George W Bush is responsible for us being there, not Joe Biden not Donald Trump and not Barack Obama. There is
nearly enough discussion of George W Bush here, and I think that you know if you go to a bad dentist and the dentist screws up your tooth and then you go to other dentists and the first dentist that tries to fix it doesn't do a great job, and then you go to a third dentist in that dentists. Basically gets you out of harm's way: you're not gonna have an abscess, but the truth is gonna hurt for several months. We talk about what the third dentist was unable to do. We talk about how the second dentist messed up the repair, but what started it was that first dentists, to messed up your tooth, and there is not nearly enough discussion to use it. Dental analogy of George W Bush in the Bush admin nations role here. There's a lot of Biden versus trumped stuff. At some point, some one had to say what George W Bush start can go no further, no more money into this, no more content.
Actors getting rich the contractors, mostly out of Afghanistan over recent months, because the withdrawal was coming that with the route, but the contractors, but we ve got to stop that is well and Joe Biden speech the nation on Monday. It wasn't satisfying to a lot of people who email me, but it was fundamentally an honest speech in it and by honest I mean it's the type of honesty we don't usually get from politicians. It was one of the most honest political speeches by a president and a long time, and it was completely decisive. It was we had to do it. We had to do it as a team it earlier this week quote so you stay another year to leave correctly simply delaying what happened by a year, enriching more contractors who would go back in and so then what the same thing happens in twenty twenty two at some point, you have to cut your losses and Joe Biden
beach was decisive and Joe Biden with the guy to do it any takes responsibility for what took place after now. If there's anything to really criticize there it's well now, six thousand troops are going back in to help people get out and re stabilize, which we could say is going backwards. You pull out the last one thousand five hundred chaos ensues and you sends bit six thousand back in. So I'm not saying it's wrong. Try to help Greece the exit in some way of that- that's not my criticism, but in innocent. Are we really even doing it if six thousand you're going back and we'll get the devil really is in the details with what those six thousand are going to be doing, and we will get back What would dig into that further probably later this week, but you know what it had to be done. You dont tend to see this level of decisive action.
On foreign policy combined with just telling it like it is, and so I think for that you have to give Biden Credit and then we figure out which aspects of it could have been better managed. I want to talk to you today about republican hypocrisy, which has reached here too for unseen levels, but this isn't about one thing like ok, you know we ve talked about vaccines in hypocrisy. Before we had a decade where we talked about gay marriage and hypocrisy, the right. This is a big picture issue that if we can't pierce in some way, we may never make progress on some really important issues that affect the United States in the world. The story was actually inspired by a sub, read it user.
Who goes by the Name Department Chair who posted about this a few days ago on the sub. Read it really good post, and I realise this is something we should be talking about right now and really exposing the feckless nature of what is supposedly the right wing philosophy at this point in time, because Republicans claim to have at the centre of their political philosophy the principles of non intervention by government into people's lives unless completely necessary. Of not regulating business unless completely necessary of a smaller government that does fewer things being a better. Government all else being equal. This has been floating around in republican circles. At least I mean but popularized during the Reagan era, although you could probably find examples of it before then as well you- and I we ve seen this- be utter garbage at the micro level, they say, small gum
met, but they want the government, the ban, gay marriage wide hold on what that doesn't make sense. They say small government, but they want the government policing, Canada, at the state and federal level. That doesn't make sense, but the reality is that republican policy on endless issues is incredibly interventionist, anti libertarian collectivist which they claim to be against and, in some cases, even oppressive to the degree that they want to put policy in place and, as our Reddit User Department Chair points out. Often this is the case with victimless,
Crimes, flag burning as an example, same sex, marriage, the pledge of allegiance in school, so just step back for a second and think about all of the areas where Republicans self professed so called small government conservatives have demanded that government take action over the last many decades. I mean okay, abortion decisions that should be made between a patient and a doctor, four hundred and fifty there now ban at federally. They say bandit at the state level. They say regulate how many, what procedures that you have to have before Niebuhr an abortion transnational altered,
on and on and on and on regulate family planning, and they claim to be small government. Conservatives that's been going on for fifty years. For more than a decade it was. The government should ban same sex marriage. There was a huge political issue for more than a decade. The the battle lines on gay rights have shifted since the twenty fifteen Supreme Court decision, but that was it for a decade ban. Everything at the government involved prevent teachers from deciding what to teach banned. The teaching of critical race theory control what teachers teach as if you know more than Dana the war on drugs.
War on drugs, policing of drugs, prosecution, incarceration using it to justify surveillance war on drugs alone is like ten items that that sort of follow from that burning flags, something the Supreme Court is decided, is constitutionally protected speech these Republicans. They want to ban it. They want to punish people a couple months ago the segment where I think it was at a Trump rally. An interviewer was asking people what should happen if somebody burns flag, some Republicans called for the death penalty for burning a flag on guy, surveillance, an entire area in and of itself. Now I will say there are some libertarians actual libertarians, not just like reactionary right wingers, who hide under the name libertarian. There is an actual libertarians who are against much of the the surveillance activity that has been put in place by Patriot ACT, an essay
cetera over the last decade more, but a lot of these right wing or say no. No. We need that. We need that in order to find an t far we that in order to monitor Muslims or whatever the case may be ok mandating the pledge of allegiance and schools. I mean you, ve gotta be kidding right. No many concerns small government government involved only when absolutely necessary, requiring wanting to require the pledge of allegiance be recited in school, and yet they have the audacity to mention government Trojan and small government and freedom and liberty when they come out against vaccination requirements even by private businesses. When they come out against mask mandates by municipalities or businesses, and they are even against private businesses. Simply saying, if you want to work here, you need a vaccine or if you want to shop here, you need a vaccine. Think of that. They
Aim to want business is due to be able to do whatever the hell they want. They say: dont regulate, business business will decide what's best than the market. Will punish them. If they do the wrong thing, but they say oh no, make it illegal for a business is to require a business to require an employee be vaccinated make it a legal for a business to require masks, make it illegal for a business to require customers to show proof of vaccination, and why is it? It's also simple guys? It's because principles are bs. They don't really have principles, at least not anymore. They are about whatever talking point sounds good right now, and it gets us what we want right now that's what we believe in that's what we stand for until it. Longer convenient and then their against that very thing. There one principle is somehow
figure out a way to own the lips, its truly one of the most bad faith, political movements I can think of- and you know you go back and you look at the racist origins of the war on drugs in reaction to the civil rights movement of the late fifties. Early sixties, you be anti welfare movement of the Reagan Erin. How racially tinge that was in all these. If the. It was a lot of bad faith going on, but at this point there are barely even pretending to have principles even principles like you hear them. If they come on, do that's bs, you know you don't even believe that because look at example one two three four five: six up where you abandon those principles because the outcome of apply
That principle would no longer be the one you want. So why do we care about this? We care about it, because since it has become the orthodoxy of the Republican Party, I you wanna, see hypocrisy Mitch, Mcconnell on Supreme Court picks right. Just just look it's the perfect example of how this unbridled and unpunished Hypocrisy gets them political wins, and so, if we don't find a way to pierce this, I worry seriously that the left will struggle to really make progress on some major important issues. Let me know what you think. Ok, you can find me and follow me on twitter at deeper man, it's great to be back, but we have a really big show for you today. I ll talk about my vacation on the bonus show. Let me just preview. One aspect of the bonus show today positive covered test. That's all I'm going to say on today's bonus show.
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summarize only as positive covered test. This is an incredible story. Ok, on today's bonus show sign up. It join Pachmann, dotcom speaking of covert persistent cove, it miss Manager, Republican Texas, Governor Gregg, Abbot, has tested positive for the corona virus, he's reportedly isolating and he is receiving a meal. A colonial anti body treatment according to his office. Now remember that this is the same. Gregg Abbot, who wanted to block local official from mandating masks who want open everything who was part of the administration whose
A lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick said grandma will sacrifice herself for the economy that was early in the pandemic back and twenty twenty. Now you might be asking why was abbot even tested, given that he is a symptomatic because he's reportedly been tested daily and he finally turned up positive for the first time this week. They ve also announced that everybody Abbott has been in contact with, has been notified. Now I really wonder whether that's true, because that is a ton of people. Look at these videos. The video I'm playing for you now. This is from the last couple of days. You see reg abbot indoors, he's the one in the wheelchair, in the middle of the frame, as the camera pans to the ripe. Without him ask in a room with. Maybe a hundred people without masks, hugging taking pictures shaking hands that was Monday night when he was presumably already positive for the virus is positive. Test was yesterday. Here is another
video of abbot on Tuesday yesterday on stage at a big republican event, singing mascot We know that singing is a major spread activity. This is in a big crowd, The entire crowd is actually singing check this out ok, so that that's that's probably enough. Sorry for subjecting you too, that there, so there is Gregg Abbot globally covered positive singing and then here is abbot in a very cosy, close up meeting with a supporter of some kind of fan of his, we might say
Mass Gillis Indoor greeting at one of these events so? How many people did the republican governor give the virus to before he tested positive himself? Now he will probably be fine. He has the best man care money can buy your money by the way I mean tax money. He's getting the anti body treatment, he is reportedly asymptomatic and think about it. For a second vaccinated and no symptoms, and he still gets the expensive anti body treatment. These guys are truly horrible, zoom out and it's. This still be in big picture. They go around advocating for not taking precautions, they say close anything grandparents willing to die sacrificed themselves for the economy, so they take no precautions. Tons of people in their state get sick and die. Then they
get an asymptomatic case and immediately get the best treatment available, even one that would never go to an asymptomatic vaccinated person and a day up at least, what's thought to be a good treatment, and then they pretend that that's Proof that we don't really need to worry about it. Log, listen! I got the vaccine I didn't wear a mask. I did my thing. I got the expensive monoclonal anti bodies and I came out fine, so we We don't need to worry about it. Even though that's a treatment, almost none of us would get if we were to become sick and he gets it all paid for by our taxes. Some federal state etc understand that this is not a minor point. He's fully vaccinated he's a symptomatic He feels fine, but he gets the monoclonal anti body treatment anyway. Now the other possibility and a few people wrote to me saying you know David. Maybe it's not that easy symptoms
attic and getting the anti body treatment. Maybe it's They're lying that he's asymptomatic, he's actually really sick but they're gonna, given that treatment anyway, I just don't think so. I mean unless he, the video of him around two hundred peoples from yesterday, so unless he got like really sick late yesterday, and they already- our putting them on the anti body. I just don't think so. I think that he's just getting the treatment because he's the governor of Texas and by the way you don't just just as a little, because you hear from all these anti vaccines, the vat scenes not yet fully approved by the FDA. Sir. Neither is the monoclonal anti body treatment. Its approved under this very same type of emergency use authorization that the vaccines are so tons of Anti Baxter's, it's funny because they say that vaccine. No, no, no, that's not fully approved by the FDA, plus. We have a great treatment
I did get it and I did get really sick. We ve got the monoclonal antibodies, that's the same type of emergency use authorization, neither is fully approved by the FDA, so absurd at the macro level, ridiculous at the micro level feeds misinformation. And some of these governor seem determined to just keep going, go going until such time, that everybody in their state has called it in the first guy that comes to mind when I think of that is republican. Or a governor Rhonda Santas. Let's talk about him a little bit next
What is going on in Florida right now with corona virus, is so fallacious. It's so dreadful it so vicious that if we are not careful, Republicans might make Rhonda Santas there. Twenty twenty four republican presidential mommy Republican, seemingly obsessed with choosing the worst people to be their nominees and dissent, is really messing things up in Florida. Let's take a what's happening. Florida started the pandemic not well run. Dissent is very early saying. Closure is now open everything, a double w e needs. A place for wrestling matches come to Florida. You FC wants to do fights come Laura bring the crews. Its ban masks ban masks school on and on and on ok. First of all, the case graph in Florida almost looks like a car to
since the end of July Florida, which is just one of fifty states. It represents just six percent of the country's population. Florida regularly, hitting twenty thousand cases a day, twenty five thousand cases a day day after day after Nay, even these numbers may be low because of lack of testing. I gotta report yesterday from a viewer in Florida who said at doctors off since there can be a five hour, wait to get a covert test and then the only other types of testing you can get are the ones that you have to book days in. Bans, and then you often dont get the results for days either. So it appears as though at least anecdotally the testing a bill that the testing availability in Florida is so dire that the case counts are probably being under counted. Ok, it's it's a so terrible in Florida to get a test
that many people who should be getting tested just aren't and we are getting an undercurrent by every every sense of the data on the on the ground. Now you might come in and you might say will hold on, but but but but if the vaccine makes coded not serious, then this is not really matter since people who are vaccinated and gets covert, don't really get sick right. Well, this is a Florida explosion, mostly of the on vaccinated, as were seeing in many states, Lord is covered. Hospitalizations have hit another record high. Now you might say David right before you went on break. Didn't you tell us florid as hospitalizations hit a record high, and I did but it's a new record. We with surpass that number covered hospitalizations hit new high in Florida, a new report from the floor.
A hospital, as those association showed sixteen thousand five hundred twenty one people hospitalized with the corona virus up seven, seventy three from the day before and one hundred sixty two percent higher than this time last year. Now, then, you might say: ok hospitalizations, but were better at treating it now. What about deaths? Florida has done something. I guess we can call it slick. It's really completely dishonest about death reporting, as you can see here, as all of this wrapped up in Florida, death started to skyrocket, but when you look at the death count, if you look at the chart, we have on screen a few days ago. All of a sudden. The deaths drop to almost zero. How? How did they do it? Oh, my God, Rhonda Santas fixed covered there's only there is almost no deaths in Florida anymore. How do they do record cases record hospitalizations and the deaths dropped to almost here
well they're lying and what I mean by that is, they are being very deceptive and how they report deaths their reporting, deaths in bulk infrequently and on a delay So when you look, the latest days always seem low. It looks like there's been this big decline. If you look at our chart after a bunch of days with a hundred deaths day hundred and ten deaths today, hundred twenty debts They suddenly flora. Florida had eleven deaths on Monday, only seven seven deaths yesterday. How could this be The answer is, these are not real numbers in another. A week, they will come out and report the death numbers for this week they will be high. The chart will be readjusted. But then again there will be blanks. It'll be almost zero for the dates next week that our recent and it always looks like it's a huge decline. It's in credit. Deceptive, because at any point, a denier. Someone who doesn't understand what
Lord is doing with the death numbers. They can just pull up the data and say look NASA decline in deaths in Florida. It's completely deceptive Florida is uncovered fire more than five thousand stew sir, now quarantined or isolated in just one school district were seeing pediatric. I see you cases and floor I like we haven't seen anywhere the entire pandemic, and this is, after a very short period of time of schools reopening many of the pediatric. I see you cases may not even have been from in school contagion yet so it could get even worse in Florida. If you can imagine and we're going to have more, a coverage of the Florida situation on the David Pachmann show Instagram make sure you're following us at David PATH.
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Dying of Verona virus and wanted stories. I know Ferrand it while I was gone, but I want to give my take on- and I think there's there's quite a bit to say these are not like fun. Happy stories, they're, not funny stories For me. It's not me. Listen you guys know. I don't take pleasure in the death of of folks who just fell for Forbad information, but we cannot ignore the fact that, especially when they change their mind on the vaccine, once they get sick and people hear that it can be a cautionary tale and it may actually have some impact in getting getting more people to go ahead and get back sedated. So, let's start with the first one. This is a story of H, Scott aptly a Texas Republican official who mocked the covert pandemic five days before dying of the virus. Ok, H, Scott
wait. The daily beast. Writes a republican official from Texas who regularly espouse to anti vaccine anti mask views. Online has died from covered nineteen five days. After posting a meme on Facebook, question aiding Oakwell questioning quest, joining the wisdom of getting inoculated against covert dickens, City, council, member and state republican Executive Committee, member H, Scott aptly forty five years old, not sixty five plus nuts Many five, eighty five, the way many Republicans I d say forty five year old Age, Scott happily died in the local hospital, around three. I am Wednesday morning, according the way go fund me page, set up to help his family with expenses nominate get to that in a moment as well admitted to the facility and Galveston on Sunday with Pneumonia, like symptoms hooked up to a ventilator as his condition worsened. His wife was also infected, Texas Republican Party.
I'm a mat. Rinaldi's said. Please join me in lifting the aptly family up in prayer see instead of praying now. What about vaccinating before is. Is that crazy? Is that a crazy reaction to have now Prayer are going on to say we will miss Scott deeply but find comfort in knowing he peace in the arms of our saviour. You find comfort in that's what about the fact that he could have been vaccinated and would have been very unlikely to see this happen. What about that part, the opposite of comfort is what that should be. The announcement did not mention that Applebee's death was covered related aptly is a staunch conservative and devout Christian, but based on his social media activity, aptly didn't believe covered going to affect him or his family in May aptly posted an invitation for a mask burning being held at a ball.
In Cincinnati commenting. Wish. I lived in the area couple weeks earlier. He posted unused article about giveaways and incentives met to encourage people to get and writing disgusting aptly also railed against so called vaccine passports, which restrict high risk activities such as indoor dining to the fully vaccinated. Recently, he suggested mask mandates in Germany were akin to nazi fascism and when we're Baltimore Health. Commissioner Leanna, when celebrated good news about the Pfizer vaccine, efficacy, a seemingly outraged, aptly called her an absolute enemy of aid three people here you can go up. It's all the same stuff in Facebook posts aptly road if businesses start, allowing customers and employs go mask free only. Voluntarily providing their vaccination record, presumably not a hip misspelled violation, wouldn't that, basically, volunteered its. We can't even understand
Were this guy was writing what a mess so listen? What what are they take? Always I'm not happy this guy died, but if his death serves to get some Anti Baxter's vaccinated It will not be totally in vain, although it is a senseless death which almost certainly not a hundred percent, but almost certainly could have been prevented with a vaccine so take away number one. We have something the vaccine, which makes you really unlikely to get super second die of covert. Now, there's data coming out about break through deaths right a learning that were Probably all heading towards third doses: we'll talk about that. Our big announcement expected probably today, were learning that efficacy wanes over time, but it's still a very power
full tool for making you unlikely to be hospitalized and die. That's take away number one. Now some people still will die right like with flew with colds, sometimes in a country on a planet of seven billion people, things that don't normally cause problems that basically very small number, but still a percentage will cause a problem and people will die, but most won't when they are vaccinated. It's the best tool we haven't choosing not to take advantage of. It is absurd. Now the go fuck me page by mention that they have a go fund me. They talk about personal responsibility. They choose not to get accelerated. They still expect to be taken care of at the hospital and then they or their families beg for money for health care, which almost certainly
not money, they would need because they didn't get vaccinate had they gotten vaccinated. They probably wouldn't need that money. That is not personal responsibility. That is not personal responsibility and that's another aspect earlier in the show I talked about in of the stated principles for lots of these people: they're not deeply held beliefs, their just what they think they can say now to get what they want out of society or out of a government or out of people in their lives, and the principles are abandoned as soon as its no longer convenient for them. Let's now talk about another one of these stories Adler Farren cousins. During my break talked about this, and I want to talk a little bit more about it, because this is now an actual broadcaster, vocal anti vaccine broadcaster, Dick Feral has died from covered. Nineteen complications. Ok, this was of about a week,
you go. I was away when it took place. Friends say Dick Feral encouraged them to get the vaccine after he was in fact it. So this is out of Florida form South Florida talk, show hosting feral known and be loved by fans for his over the top right wing. Opinions has died from complications from covert. Nineteen on Facebook, feral advocated against getting the corona virus vaccine and was sceptical of Doktor Anthony found she chief of the? U S national outlook, age. And his recommendations concerning the corona virus. Friends say after contracting the virus. He changed his point of view. Covert took one of my best friends, rest peace dick feral. He is the reason I took the shot. He texted me and told me get it. He told me this view this is no joke and you said I wish I had gotten it. That's fairly close friend Amy Lee Hair on her facebook page. She said the W p maybe I was one of the people like him who just didn't trust the vaccine. I trusted my immune system. I just became
more afraid of getting Covid nineteen than I was of any possible side effects of the vaccine. Glad. I got vaccinated, that's a good thing and You know when we talk about senseless death, there's a lot of different things We could mean we could mean that it was avoidable. That's one thing when we say senseless that we could be this easily avoidable. It made no sense, sometimes by senseless death. We mean it was a death that accomplish nothing. So if the military is waging some bad, that is a pointless battle that win lose its relevant, it doesn't do it helps no one and then someone dies. Whether it was a senseless death, because the death didn't even contribute Anything to a worthwhile caused senseless death can mean a number of different things. If we are going to have these anti vax people. And some of them are going to die
we better off if they are prominent and have a platform, and then it gets out that hate this person that you might have heard of this person, you listen. Do they now we're saying get the vaccine? Does it reduced the senselessness of the death? I think to some Korea does former market general manager for CBS Radio s Palm Beach. Lee Strasser remembers feral. He was flamboyant outrageous willing to take on any and all comers love to engage with. Local politicians pulled no point punches. Was he right all the time? No, but he was right all the time, meaning right wing, especially if you asked him Did you stay out of trouble? Not always was a great with clients. Yes, the pleasure and the building absolutely was loyal. Unquestionably, was he skilled? Yes, sir? His passing is a big loss He was a kind hearted person, etc, etc. So a straight up. Anti Baxter, a straight up. Anti vaccines are now saying: go and get yourself the vaccine
This is not a problem. That's gonna go away anytime soon, and particularly, I don't want to get ahead of myself, but particularly as it looks like at the eight month mark of your vaccination, it will be recommended to get a third dose. What the J J vaccine recipients will be instructed to do. We dont yet no, but for those who got the Tito's vaccines, Pfizer Madonna, with a third dose likely coming. This is going to be another opportunity to have significantly more protection and it's going to be another opportunity for these people to go. They just want to keep them sing in vaccine in order to control a sore microchip or whatever the case may be so as bad as it's been. Unfortunately, when the third dose recommendations sort of widespread and that could be anywhere in the next twenty four to forty eight hours. There will, unfortunately,
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Security is now actually increasingly worried about. The demand As for violence, there are starting to see from trumpets circles if Donald Trump is not reinstated. Now, of course, you- and I know Trump is not going to be re. Stated in so that very very concerning there's a guy rolling stone article, which were going to look at by Peter Wade, called die hard trumps supporters. Increasingly demand violence. If he isn't reinstated, Homeland Security warns, the department of when security issued a warning. Believers in the false conspiracy theory that will be reinstated, have increased their calls for violence if the President isn't back in the White House soon. Some conspiracy theories seated with reinstating former president Trump have included her violence, if desired outcomes, are not realised. The De Hs bulletin obtained by ABC New, said the bullets in one, to say that the recent increase in public visibility of liars, like the my pillow guy, Michael and Del, by the way,
out his interview with me from a couple weeks ago is the rule and for the uptake and violent online chatter Lynn, I'll continues to relentlessly push the big lie that the election was stolen, going so far as to say that he expects the Supreme port to unanimously rule in favour of reinstating trumpets. President in August, that's a delusional belief over the last few days. What has occurred is there has been more public visibility, meaning the discussions and these theories of migrated away from being contained within the conspiracy extremist online communities to wear their being the topic of this, sure on web forums or more public web forums, even within the sort of media ecosystem. That's according to a senior De Hs official there drunk on Trump crowd, has been triggered so much that homeland security says there sir, and about the calls for violence increasing further. We have been concerned about the exact same thing going on to say that does this bulletin
as public visibility of the narratives increases were concerned, about more calls to violence. Past circumstances have illustrated that calls for violence could expand rapidly in the public domain and me, the occurring outside of publicly available channels as such, loan offenders and small groups of individuals could mobilise to violence with little to no warning they d age S added though they do not have specific of an imminent threat. Their reporting indicates the timing for these activities. May occur during August, although we lack information on specific plots or planned actions. So there's a few different things here. Number one Donald Trump is going back to the rallies this Saturday, this Saturday. In fact, I'm debating I'll, tell you it's like this. The Sufis so base.
But I'll tell you so there's trumps doing a rally in Alabama this Saturday, eight p M East, seven, p m central I'll I'll be streaming it. There are some who believe that, at this rally, Donald Trump is going to call for another insurrection and that all hell's going to break loose. That's one hypothesis, the other idea that and floated is that at the rally Saturday Tromp will be reinstated. That's the aid be in Alabama, because it's a good southern state. I guess who the hell knows and we'll be reinstated on Saturday and there are fears that were He is obviously not reinstated Saturday that some of the followers vote will take the violence immediately. I don't know what the hell's going on. So that's one piece of it and that's part of the relevance of this this particular week. Secondly, how lowbrow is it to have trump? Is a hero like what it's this is
Of course right. It's not! This is not deep politics, but the bizarre hair and a strange tat in the eighties see he doesn't know anything about history or economics or politics hasn't read a book in his. Don't live here, billion air, but he can't even even get suits that look even reasonably ok, like he's just in them harrassing mess of a person, and you really have to understand calls to understand. What's going on, it's it's the Jim Jones stuff, I go back to the people's Temple Road to Jonestown Road check out Jeff Quinn's book. It's a fantastic and its instructive history really about how these cult leader types end up with the followers They have so the age is worried. We ve been worried and let's hope that nothing like this happens this weekend,
Here's a really interesting question. If I ask you as a probable either that the two who's the typical David Pachmann show of your just on average, the David package here is a college educated off making more than seventy five thousand a year. More. Firstly, mail, as many of these shows are vaccinated, individual, ok, the average David Pachmann Show Viewer and, of course, people of all kinds in the audience, I'm just giving you the demographic data we have about how our audience skews the average David Pack anchovy or if you ask them, if I asked them I'll, ask you right now, who is to blame? for the accelerated rise in covered that we are seeing right now what what individuals most of you would say the people, I have chosen not to get backdated now. Of course, the delta variant is more contagious, we're still understanding seasonality, decreased, waning. Efficacy of the vaccine. After the ape man appeared all these different things.
But obviously, if everybody was vaccinated by now, we wouldn't be seeing what we are seeing right now, in particular hospitalizations and deaths. Now, let me ask you a different question. If I asked you what or who, with the average on vaccinated person, blame for those spike uncovered. Would you say? Well, there is a new acts, Yos Ipsos Paul, and it is absolutely insane look at So I'm putting the graph up on the screen em and explain it. Everybody, ok, the answers, green. Are the answers of vaccinated people where is the answers in red, are the answers of on vaccinated people so case in point you go to the vaccinated and you say what's to blame for the rise of co. And the new variants. Seventy nine percent of the vaccinated say the on vaccinated are to blame. Nor yet that's that's backed up by science, the
sedated also blame in descending order. Donald Trump relative media. Another not think trumpets infecting people, but it's the vaccine, hesitant and covert, isn't serious rhetoric of Trump conserved. Media doing the same thing for entry those in the? U S: America, traveling, internationally, etc. Ok, the on vaccination, They immediately gravitate to foreign travellers in the. U S are the ones that are to blame. And then they go to mainstream media is to blame and in fourth place they have Joe Biden is to blame, and then they have the CDC is to blame and then have national public health officials are to blame. This is a completely backwards view, the by the way, only nine point. Eight percent of the unbalanced and blame themselves for what is going on right now
This is a view which is based on why? Why do we blamed CDC and the national public health officials? Well because they can be trusted and found? She was wrong about masks in March of twenty twenty and their spreading lies and gain a function. Research and all this different stuff, Joe Biden, is to blame Joe Biden, been trying to get people vaccinated, guidance, the blame white? What are you talking about and then foreign travellers in the United States seems to be the point of agreement of right around you know? Twenty nine percent put the numbers back up on the board. Twenty nine percent of the vaccinated, thirty seven percent of the unboxing, aided, say, foreign travellers in the: U S are to blame, that's the one where these numbers are relatively close. This is just a world view that is totally disconnected from what the science tells us. So how do we deal this? These are not folks, If you think mainstream media is behind the explosion of Delta case infections and hospitalizations, and
that's. How are we going to be able to have an even remotely substantive conversation with you, we're not going to be able to so then? What do we have to do? We probably have to do with some cities and states insert mostly cities, are starting to do you wanna, go to the movies you gotta be vaccinated. You wanna go to a restaurant. And sit in doors. You gotta be vaccinated. I'll talk on the bonus show today about my my trip when I in Germany, I went to a place that had like an hour, a beer garden, German B, garden, had a big outdoor area and an indoor area. I went to the door, the waitress comes up and says: if you want to go inside, I need to see vaccination or a negative test from to day, and it makes sense that that's what you start doing you ve gotta start making it more annoying not to be vaccinated because think mainstream media is behind the rise in cases and not the fact that we ve only fully vaccinated roughly half the country than
Can we very hard to convince you otherwise, really really difficult stuff and by the way, speaking of can't you just fake a vaccine card yeah, you can and that's actually the topic Today's voicemail, we have a voice mail number, and that number is too one nine to David p. You can call any time I am slowly going through the six hundred voice. Males I have from when I was away here one that came in about a guy who's friends are going to fake vaccine cards. Take a lesson even of the running your show. I just found out very heartbreaking that why two of my friends that I was close with me both by on getting stake, covered back seen cards the up, and I try to report them to
the local department of Hell? I'm not sure, I'm doing enough, though, if I can get you, I don't know. If I'm gonna shaking, I was so upset when I found out this morning, it's a disgusting thing to be doing so: let's Lasorda, what a few things first of all is requiring vaccination a waste of time. If you can fake of axing card, no no system is foolproof. No system is full proof, but it so easy to get back sedated. I know you'll see a lot of people, don't want to get back needed for political reasons, and I get that, but it so easy to get vaccinate. It's really easy for, for most people, it's easier to get vaccinated than to figure out how to put together a vaccine card that you feel really would pass muster that the whole point is: let's just use that to convince more people to go and get vaccinated. No system is foolproof. I mean all be honest, to get back to the United States from Europe, I needed a negative test within seven
two hours of coming back and I I did when I got one. I brought a test with me that I connect with someone. It's called a teller health observation. They watch me do the test. I put the drops in the thing they verify that I did it correctly. It comes back negative. They send me a pdf, I could affect the pdf, I mean, did you know at Frankfurt here? port. It was five seconds that they looked at it and really all they looked at was, does it say, negative does, it say my name and is the date. Within three days I could have been showing anything at all. Are some people probably faking the negative test? Yes, but for enough people it's pickled enough to know how do I make a real. You know a good looking pdf there's that I'll just go and get myself the test. Any system is going to have something. Bull that get around it no system is foolproof. I don't think that's a reason not to do it now. What essentially
is being done when you fake a CDC vaccination record is you were using an official government agencies seal without authorization and that's a crime. Okay. So when people do that there may be law written to specifically go for faking vaccination but fake. Scdc Certificate is certificate, is a crime. It can be punishable under title eighteen. U S code, section, ten, seventeen and other laws, so it is a crime, so you should report it. If you of people that are doing this. This is really it's an attack on humanity, really, because what you are is your endangering people and recommendation. Is you call one eight hundred h, H S tips or you can go to? I see three dot, Gov! That's for internet crime. I dont know if it's
actually an internet crime. It that's another recommendation, so one eight hundred h, H Us tips or I see three dot gov. You can also intact, local law enforcement, you can contact your local distance. Attorney attorney general. Almost any one should be able to direct you as to what to do so Not only should we make it easier to just get vaccinated than to fake a certificate, we should really be making examples out of people that are caught. Taking the certificates. I've already read, in fact that, because the card can be faked, that there is going to be a different method and Electronic record may be, or whatever the case. Maybe we're going to have to wait and see now ripe, it's so great to be back. We have a fantastic bonus, show a producer pat will
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