Reporter and host of Dr. Death, Laura Beil, moderates a panel discussion with the show’s main cast and writer: Joshua Jackson, Christian Slater, AnnaSophia Robb, Grace Gummer, Hubert Point-du-Jour, and showrunner Patrick MacManus.. From a rooftop premiere in Hollywood, they talk about how they captured the story of Dr. Duntsch, and why doctors are the real heroes. All eight episodes of the television series based on the podcast Dr Death are out now on Peacock.
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I'm wondering I Lara deal, and this is a special live recorded episode of doktor death and now joining the aren't stage. We're gonna have the show, runner and cast of doktor death, because this is applied. Caston people want to hear you say your name and who you play this time special tree, get to introduce yourself. So we're gonna go down the road. Please introduce yourself tell who your name and your role in the show or the character that deeply regret is producer and writer, extraordinary Joshua Jackson.
Revenge, honest and Rob Michel Schubert Christians later Doktor Randal, Kirby, Grace Comer, Jim Morgan, human, almost remedying I'm Hubert when de jure I play I just Baker. This is very exciting. For me, I've led panels before my journalists sidelined panel discussions with journalists and with doctors and with scientists. In fact, the last panel discussion that I led had five Nobel Prize winners and Since my first with actors, so this is going to be fun, he's other organ away upwards,
I want to start with Patrick where the question when I was working on this story, reporting it in writing and pretty soon into the process. I realise that this was not actually a story about Christopher. It is a story, is sorry, emergency lost the number one. It's a story about the? U S, healthcare system is that how you chose to write the tv series as well. So, first of all, I do want to. I reserved one thanks for right now, just to make you extraordinarily uncomfortable. We wouldn't be here without her Laura. She deserves a massive round of applause.
You're an extraordinary journalist and and I've been saying to people all along that, if it weren't for you and what you did, we would never have had their the guy posts that we had and we always returned back to your work whenever we felt like we were getting lost. So so. Thank you very much for everything that you did. You know I am, I unfortunately, now that I've just complemented joy have to just disagree with you, is, which is that? No, I because I didn't know it at the time right: leg, when I was given the did the first to apply to podcast it hadn't gotten that deep into the story at and so all I was attracted to as a writer and- and I think I can speak for the other writers and the writers room mean that not here we were all attracted to the characters and and in particular You know it's so easy. These guys. I've heard me say this for a while. It so easy to adjust and comforting weirdly to toss a black hat on interest for dungeon column, a psychopath and be able to
I'm into a box and to explain him. So we could sleep better at night, but that was, to this character. Was he was an extraordinarily complex person? Who is a tragic person? whenever I say that it sounds like I'm weirdly excusing him, and I just want to say that I am very glad that he's in jail for the rest of his life. He deserves to be there, but is also the kind of character that He had taken a left in his life instead of a right. We would be too. Think about him in an entirely different fashion. He was extraordinarily intelligent is extraordinarily driven. He was excellent research and the patent that he had put forth back then are still being used today to me that's an interesting character to delve into you're, not just saying it's a two dimensional one dimensional character. and then to have the heroes, leg, Henderson, Kirby and Michel Sugar to don't have bad and guns right that that they're just normal people trying to stop this I was extraordinarily enticing tempted to me and I can again say for the writers as well, so it grew into what you're talking
about- and there is no question that this is, to a certain degree an indictment on the system as well that failed to stop him, but that was something that you know. I I had to come upon an inn in research, Well, I do agree with you that he is an incredibly complex character, more than just an even in reporting the pod cas. I really didn't want him to be a two dimensional villain. I mean I tried to find people who cared about him when growing up and who will talk to him, and I I have to say just when I watched when I first saw this in New York over signal, Michel sooner and one of the things she said, afterward like I'd, never had any direct dealings with guns because he was he. He was already in prison of the time that I caught, but she had- and one thing she said, is that she thought you really now his persona and an eye
I loto good and bad, I think, but I'm just wondering how you prepared for that cuz you're used to playing good guys who was a bad guy, but you did kind of portray more complex sides to him, and you know what I'm saying. So, how did you prepare for that Well, thankfully, had a little bit of time from our first conversation to when we first started, shooting because my first instinct was to go the easy route in our very first conversations I was I just couldn't rap my head around the. How of him I couldn't figure out how a human can take them. of turn and become the monster that he ultimately becomes. An ice badly wanted that easy answer. I wanted the the like what This happened and then that's why these sequence of events then came out, and it was you kind of leading me to the water. Like know this man is a
when being with human foibles and had he just stayed on his research track. Like you said we would have been talking about him in as a as an Elon musk type as a visionary leader of of a medical revolution, and so it brought me into the place of of taste. Him at face value that he really did truly believe and believes that he is the hero of his own narrative and once I. Down that path of not thinking about him as a villain? Somebody who conceives of himself as a villain, then it sort of unlocked all the other places. did you ever try I tried and never could get through to to him to the real doktor dungeon prison. Did you ever try to know? We talked about in the beginning and I'm by that I came into the project you. Done so much research had done so much of the leg work that would have been my job and frankly, the pot ass did so much of the leg work that would have been my job. I'm not. Sure that I would have founded
I probably wouldn't have been able to get access to him anyway, but I'm not sure that that asking a liar for the truth would have been illuminating. You know I is so intensely in his own delusion that at you, I dont think that would be able to find truth through him and still to this day yeah, but I do think that in the the supporting materials that you provided new provided for me. I was able to Fine truth about him from how he was seen from the outside, because you do you You get a real sketch of the man from his patients rights from there, recollection of him before they were butchered from the people in his life. His family members from people's interactions with him, I found that much more illuminating, I think than ever having access to the man himself and I found the police take very limited. yeah his own he found he was his own like how he explained everything away even
then there was not a realisation of the scope of what he had done of what of the school. of what he had done, also the when we were shooting that day will it was such an interesting because if they are the only documentary evidence that I had in his own voice, had lots of things supporting around the character, but when you hear him too. dancing around what is to us, the truth would seem so evident from from what he had done, and you You hear him in real time evading the true that his brain gets close to it. It like sneaks up and wants to touch it, and then he just work his way around having to admit the central of his failure as a as a surgeon and ultimately is a human and its fascinating, because he he he is at turns self pitying.
He's ingratiating, he's charming, he's witty and he's in total denial of the jeopardy that he's in and of the damage that has caused the people around them. Right. Like he's trying to talk me out of here and but talking his way out of it from the perspective of a co conspirator with the police, almost they keep he's coming at it from such a chummy place of like what we're in this together, you get it we're we're both. You know we're just a couple fellows here and I dont know what those crazy the talking about, but clearly I could not have done terrible things. So you're going to come to around to my way of thinking, and at that point I think he was also like quite intellectually and emotionally degraded he was not at his sharp is so you see the facade you're. You hear the facade cracking as he is speaking, and he still he just can't get to that central truth about himself right. Why can't wait to see the scene I hope it's, I hope you like it, I'm pretty proud of it. Now Kristen, you met the real Randal, Kirby
recently, just recently yeah, I'm I'm here to know. When you met him in real life. Did he was he? What you thought West anyway thought he was gonna, be yeah? I liked him immediately. I may I had plans to meet with him prior to a shooting. Of course was fly to Dallas but then covered heads and I had to cancel the trip. I have a brother in law, vascular, surgeon so was able to get a lot in for he tutor you in vascular, he did a tutor me vascular surgery. I got to go into a couple of procedures. I wasn't operating theatre, which very exciting to get to scrub in and it's gonna see, you know what, like when somebody who's truly skilled at doing this job. What what that looks like, so that was fantastic
but then yeah just meeting Doktor Kirby at the Tribeca Film Festival was was wonderful man, you know, he's passion, I really feel that he in and Doktor Henderson our genuine heroes they were willing to, but our careers on the line in order to do the right thing in and stop somebody from knowing the harm others and their personalities are so different. I mean you know this, this larger than life personality of of Randall, her being right and even without leaving him, he describes their agenda, their real relation, That way I mean doktor. Henderson is a much more reserved, laid back on again I am a doctor curve, as has these- are very bright, blue eyes, I'm kind of happy.
Didn't medium before because I would have said to Patrick you know. Maybe I should wear contact lenses and in our really, I would add, to give handle the height thing that I think that was me. No, that was going beyond that. The real reason cases like this story- and I really really he's a big guy, so yeah, I'm not tall, no way Have you is? It goes I do the best. You know what I've got out, let the other real guy exactly I vat. I met him before I would have been my God. This is never gonna work, so so after, words meeting him there we met and I made sure that we're both sitting in chairs outweigh any did get a cab lately. I did exist Did you know that was just a guess? Is that there were some new about after meeting with him, that he is a guy who wears cowboy boots all the time and he said
who's gonna make me a pair also. So I'm looking forward to that of a U men, Michel Sugar. What struck you most about her and you talk to her before every yeah I was I mean, like Christian. I was supposed to go down to Dallas, but ended up not happening, but we were able to speak before I started and I listened to the another part cassock specifically: Podcast TAT she had done, and then I mean Patrick is a wealth. knowledge, but it was really interesting or will we I had my callback, Patrick she's, really nice she's really sweet and I can't ok, ok, she's, a prosecutor like she put this guy that mean her job is to literally prosecute criminals,
nice crazy, like put like other murderers, imprison right, and when I spoke with her she is so sweet. I mean she is just she's, so focused and so determined. and I asked her what give a motto workin her motto is: do the right thing like her focus, is holy about making sure that she gets as much justice as possible for the victims and what is appropriate. What is the appropriate sentence so, Paypal doctored and gave his patients a life sentence, so I'm gonna give my life sentence. She'd issued. me and she probably said it in the nicest nice way possible and an inch she well why I have a lot of that. You know there's some tough characters that I
where then I can get snappy, but I try to cheat treat buddy the same. no matter what everybody with respect- and you know I can. I can be nice to you and They'll put you in prison, so she she has these incredible manners and like morals and but she Is it, she's. Definitely a glass half full kind ago, and one of the more interesting characters grace is in this whole saga is Kim Morgan to me. I never did speak to her, but she has heard testimony but she's incredibly interesting to me because she was there and very close to dance in the beginning, but then becomes a star witness for the prosecution. I'm curious how you think of her character. I sort of didn't know what to make of her for a lot
time. She felt like sort of a wild card to me because she. the resort if there's is always a conversation like how much she knew and when she knew it and when, when which He ever did she Edwin, when which she ever say that she knew it, Was she really in love with him or was it more of a like? You know our trip between the two of them and a binding Clyde situation where she was getting something out of it. To these are also the questions I find her yeah, I mean there questions ice I feel, like I still was asking myself up until the very end as she's just. She's so interesting, because she also just felt like she disappeared. Like she wasn t. she wasn't around? She was an accessible aye aye that
also question with Mean and Patrick I you know I got her her voice in my head when I was this into the pod cast any here. She had this sort of like a higher, always syn. An eye, but I felt like I wanted a sort of honour her essence in her strength and her bravery in her coming, already at the end and in her testimony and her story, but I I didn't feel it necessary to like imitate However, I thought this woman was, she clearly didn't wanna, be represented that way. Wedding. Claiming sounds like a lot of fun until you dig in and try and do it yourself. I learn that
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Cuz, all of you play people who really exist in his just a question for, for my own curiosity being in the non fiction business. It is there when you play real people. Do you try to stay true to what is written in the script, or is there pressure to try to be as much like the actual person as as possible? In other words, is the fictionalized character, the dawn? or is the real person like? Is there a conflict? I'm just curious how you resolve that? I think it depends like. I played Nora Ephron in the show, and I again just wanted to capture her essence. There where could probably. I mean I'm good at imitating, but I didn't want to do that. You know I'm not I'm very different from her and I didn't I didn't need to. I just think capturing some kind of soul or like little
piece of energy or sense of humour or by Or whatever it is that that reminds people of who that person is I also think that something like you have there. Understanding of of an audience members expectation as well. When, when, when Jimmy far, they re Charles? We all we, we know Rachel's his voice. We know the cadence of how he speaks. We have We already have an expectation of food that person is so high has to honour that to get our by in because if we don't see that, then we're not going to be able to suspend it disbelief and allow him to be re Charles, I for something like this. Even if you listen to the pond cats, you don't hear much of lunch right for me. You don't hear man himself and we don't really have an understanding of of who that guy was waiting.
It's a lot more latitude for something like this than there is with a with a figure that is present in peoples in the in the popular imagination like. I think it would be really hard to play Abraham Lincoln, because nobody knows what he was actually like, but we all have some kind of nebulous idea what he supposed to be, so you can only get it wrong. I guess it the incense immediately wait, that's not hand than you, ve lost you exactly as soon as you as soon as you break the suspension of disbelief than everything else after it doesn't really matter. So I know that we had a lot of conversations at the beginning, because is We had audio of dutch and Dutch has a little bit of a lisp about whether or not to put the lisp into his his speech pattern and ultimately found that it made him too simple dick. It actually gave him this this, like sweetness. This gentleness that tipped him over too much into an obviously sympathetic character. So that went away- and I
did you really lose anything by it, even though its not infidelity to the actual man, I think, was more important to capture the essence of the character in the context of the story fro fictional narrative, Saint Hubert, one thing that when when I was watching this episode that just struck me that you really handled with that, look on your face of this perfect combination of complete horror and dismay and I know how you did that, but it was really really good sovereign powers. because that's the story right, their horror and dismay, and just Europe looks when you're watching him. I mean how did you do that when Joshua Jackson, Is being mean to you, you're gonna make her that That was why don't they increase about
The story itself is, I, you know. I was in two journalism too, to make a difference. That's that's one things I wanted to do and so, from my point of view, I have a certain take away that I want people to at least think about from the podcast. The entertainment side is there's something you hope that people take away from the story, or is it just to tell a good compelling story there? Look look there there's more amene. Obviously we do what we do, because we want to entertain people and we want to present a egg. A good piece of cold quote art too, to the world and and and
That goes without saying. There is no question that you know you're. Your first question with May about the system became a big part of of the show and they take away that. I'm hoping that people have in one of the things that were doing our production companies is social action campaign in coordination with the launch of the show in order is awareness about medical harm in order to educate people, given the tools to be able to protect themselves and their loved ones, but I dont want people to to be scared. right I don't. I don't want people to be rushing to the eastern medicine exits ripe, even though that works too. I, though, One thing that I found to be particularly appropriate for our show being filmed during a pandemic was that we all finally sort of recognised in our doctors and nurses and our medical practitioners that their heroes- and they were here. as before and they will.
Heroes after an so that take away should be that there are aberrations out there and that there are problems with the system to begin with, we elect to public office make the rules that allowed something like this to happen, and we should all do our part to try to stop that. But the vast George doctors, nurses and medical practitioners are here as every single day doing, both small and and and and and big things yet, and that take away that people should have there. Are lots of heroes out there every single day, and you know one of the things about each of these. He rosy large and small, I mean even characters like yours, we're trying to to speak up, and one of the themes of the story is people speaking up in difficult circumstances and speaking up when there is pressure to remain silent and we see that overnight,
I am curious to know if any of you all have ever been in a situation where you had to speak up when it was hard and what that was like, and if that helped you with this story, I am, and I will save from my own like life and work. I've been on. Both sides of the equation spoke up in times when it was necessary, was choir when I definitely should have used my voice- and I think that is just de the moral failure of that is just as informative moving forward in a life as as being on the right side of things, because it is hard to find in use. boys, particularly when there's a a social or cultural pressure against you. And an extremely high leverage situations like this, that the Jacek your character, the that moral and the core quandary that he gets put in a culturally. What he's there to do is not to have an opinion about what the surgeon is doing, even if it's this
egregious, and he is immediately and moral crisis is hard to find your voice. At that moment, Where you know you will be unsupported and the potential blow back is your career in your livelihood and your dedication to this entire thing in the entertainment industry is replete with stories about times where we all should have found our voice and did not work. Getting a little bit better about finding our voices in the modern Europe. But this is it. moments of is shows like theirs, but its moments like what we're living through right now, that that remind us all that a lot of work left to do on that front. I can't tell you how many nurses I have heard from times emailing and it's the similar theme is talking about how difficult it is to speak up, because you, you see from the series the dynamic
in the operating room and the nurses are not in a position of power and it's very hard to speak up to someone who's in a higher position of power and nurses telling me how they have lost their jobs speaking up or how they which they would have spoken up, but they knew that they will lose their jobs. So I mean I, I think that comes out in that first episode like how how it is, I mean, and even the doctors had a hard time and their of that same power level, and they had a hard time and their its pressure on them to stay silent and particularly works or when you're in environment with somebody who is willing to be abusive of that power, yes right to protect their position through whatever means necessary to be abusive to it, both in the moment and to you to exert whatever levers of power. They have over your life and livelihood. That's in it probably developed situate. Also, the stakes are so high because we put our lives literally and doctors hands. We we are under their knives were under and its
in the stage I mean, there's, there's so much just like blind trust that we were there we put, and we can't right. You are completely powerless and that situation on us if he had something to say. Oh, I was just I spoke. I was able to speak with Doktor Henry and and and his wife and day- and I wanted to Know- spoke of them after or screening Tribeca and I was like so but how Lig still tell me. I still want to know you off the record, what hath? How did this happen? What about what what is the dynamic like, because I've never been in an operating room and it was. It was just that it was the unit these doc. These nurses wanted to speak up, and but they have, they have no power.
and that sort of accountability and transparency that I think this show is really speaking too and leaving the audience to be like this is the continuing conversation that it is something we want people to be able to talk about an old there care providers sort of accountable. I think nurses don't get a lot of times the the creditor wrecking this unwanted there's nurses here and one another, but I have such a great deal of respect for than anybody. I get asked the latter, especially after doctrine that we know what do I do. I gotta get them like. You know the nurse no, the nurses know who the surgeons are in, and it's like that They know it wasn't. There are also a certain amount of blow back with the with the doctors of like calling out there I mean I remember he S. Talking about that link. You dont go after your own right thing:
there there was- and I can tell you that a story actually haven't chair before I think he would minded, but after came out, Doktor Kirby after the pie, ass came out? I got an email from ducked Kirby and he said I had been. He had been given a really hard time. Even after dunce went to prison like from from colleagues from the medical pre, not everybody, but but some people dead, like. Why did you do that? It was not a trouble it consumption and he said nobody understood until the podcasting, because now they understand so so I think gap there's, just says: there's this pressure, but it's not just I don't wanna portrayed medical men and we all know that there are situations where people are pressure, not to speak any place that is, that is allowed or ass to regulate itself. We nothing! That's. the part of the problem that we cease to.
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Don't. I know I know impressed me for this year. There is added this beast sort of its seem small ball, but that there is a great site in the back ass. If you remember where he went, any wrestled does raw and then he laughed and then he came back any challenge. so again, God is ass, kicked it, laughed and came back again, and we like tried to in cap to capture the spirit of an episode too, but we did it in a much more, like I say, dramatic way, that's brow and untrue, but we just didn't have the room to be able to build that out, and I remember the debate in the room for like it was hard core about. Can we make? Can we pull this off? Can we not pull it off so yeah? I sort of regret not doing that. One. I was a great deal, a really good, but did you get the drill, the fate of our girl? Oh yeah, it's an episode, that's an episode to and the best part of that little anecdote. The best part of it is
Maggie Kiley are director of one and two cat western guard. Who is our phenomenal director photographers photographer? They weren't big football fans and so we all shared sort of an open space office, prepare to covert shutting down and Got to watch Maggie and cat practising trills honey, just their sharp, did it, and I wish more than anything that we had a behind the scenes crew with us. At that moment it was like chefs kiss absolutely brilliant, to sit on my desk in what's that happen, so I give them credit they, So they really learn football and I love football and they learn football better than than I did so. Yes, we have lots of good football and we a very special surprise of of jobs? Jackson is twice as twenty years old to so now. Do you play football.
Do I not in about twenty years when looked DORA boys uniform so so did, really when you ve found the scene again, I don't know the stuff did: did you really got down the field and like big, I'd rather not knocked out large Marietta, some kind of security. I think you been the So this whole for birthing is out. There's a period indulge his life when he's in college, where both before easy going on the medical track. where he is is a regional delusion. I guess is that he's going to be a professional athletes and he has neither the physical school skills or the mental skills to be able to make that happen by again he can't see himself and the way that that manifests itself in our story. Is it just gets this not knocked out of him self over
and over and over again as he tries and fails to run, one particular play. So, yes, I did get beat up quite heavily. The they were as follows. Let me tell you and then there was a lot of naked big fellows when we shot the lock room portion of that scene, and that was a hell of a day two hours a year. I was a hell of its standing in that way. In line with a bunch of big naked? It was a real. I welcome, worry, you know, you really know you're not on basic cable anymore. When there's just a bunch of big naked men, naked dudes said, that's may be like the little all closed for that. made it look we're premium now, all these fellows out here Let me there was a rendezvous, among them, branches,
A lot of also very Harry twenty year olds, very Harry twenty year olds anyway, so that they leave an impression so so any of you all like what was your favorite seem to film I mean I'm assuming nobody else had scenes with big Harry naked guys, but in actual fact that I did it was John. figuring Agip job, but what we saw, what anybody else to sweat? What seem did you either joy, the most. What was the hardest to film of this? I think during courtroom scenes where I've inner
you all of the patients Rights cross, examine or direct my guess, all the patients in watching them just come up. I mean, I think we had one day. It was just all of them, one after the other, after the other, in their real people, or the actors. Obviously very talented actors, but there also real people who are still around today, Jerry Summers he passed away wit While we were foaming, and so there is a there's, a heaviness while we're doing this because there there is their bodies, are there in pain, still and so think that it's just this very unusual unsettling feeling and it feels like the stakes are high or doesn't just feel it you're sort of playing pretend its
You know you want their story, remember speaking when she's like they needed their day in court because they they had never seen him again and to be able to tell their story what happened to their bodies was really important, and so it was. It was emotional hearing these actors sort of portray their illnesses and I think it for her to I mean just send for the jury. I mean just seeing one person after another get up and tell them tell their stories. I mean you're right. These are. These are real people and one of things I struggled with even in making the podcast Mean one of the job hazards that I have as join as a journalist covering medicine is regularly have to ask people about the worst thing that has ever happened to them and that is really hard, and I struggle with how much do you?
hell they're story to convey what happened to them, but not cross that line into exploiting their pain and Tipp into just putting it out there just to be silly. I mean I'm curious to know how you did that because, as you said, These are real people in in your scripts. How? How did you weigh the sensitivity
to the patients, even though their name for change? They are very real. You know I was. I was actually talking about this exacting earlier today. Someone asked me: what what did you find to be the most challenging part of of of doing it, and it was it wasn't that it was challenging, necessarily writing it or making it. But it was this thing that was in the back of my head at all times that they were going to probably watch this, maybe not all of them, but some of them even one of them, and if, if they felt like, we were doing exactly what you just said that we were sort of trying to take advantage of the story in some in even the miners two ways. That is something I am very happy that I will never know and not what I'm really hoping for.
is that they feel like we did this story as a whole, a service and that we treated them with some semblance of respect, because for frankly, I don't do what you just said. I dont know how you do you do, and and- and I give you a lot of credit for for doing it with with grace, because I got to hide behind fiction right and an you actually have to look these people in the eyes dumb. I am grateful to do what I do honestly so Well, we all do what we do for you I'll do what you do excellently. That's so I've asked Patrick Canada take away from this. Do you all have a particular take away that you would like people too, and I have to confess I ve only seen the first episode it's great. I haven't,
seen any the others all be watching to secondary body else. They want you to subscribe. But what what do you all hope that take away will be from this after after seventy finishes that eighth episode and there, like holy cow? What did I just watch? What do you to go through. Their heads think did a second opinion very vigilant, also, I think, give if you do like what Josh saying earlier, if you see something or something's happened, speak up and then doats don't stop or go to the right people who you who might be able to help you because, like navigating the healthcare system, is whack, it's so hard, but trying to find the right. I mean trying to find the right people to help you because you're, not just the only one. I think that's if, if
but he also experienced that like malpractice, there are a lot of other people who have experience that as well and, like I think together, every one is stronger and hopefully there can be some sort of change. Slithered you have one can emerge. You do Well, this is a show that will really You and stitches Matt, maybe we should just stop their consciences of theirs world. Thank you so much and thank you for your podcast cast mean it with the way you told it the tone the story telling you
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