I am also have to take issue with the fact that you included thirties in your characterisation of older people. I'm forty two so watching my people Verona turned forty tomorrow. How they haven't heard that I thank you. I like I have never ever been hung up about a journey thing like that, but forty feels forty sort of a big one the big one, hello, and welcome to the factory politics pie cast Iron Galen drink. This is the weak. The Democrats in Washington see they'll come to an end and on a multi trillion dollar economic and social programmes bill known as the build back better act and possibly pass a bipartisan infrastructure

It is the potential culmination of months of debate within the Democratic Party and could clarify what parts of binds economic agenda are likely to become law during the current conquers. There are still one moving parts. So nothing is certain get, but how Speaker Nancy Pelosi said over the weekend. That Democrats are pretty much there now on a deal and President Biden share some of the details of a potential agreement in a town hall the last week. Today, checking on those details and play a game that will help us get a sense of how popular different provisions in the build back better plan, r rules are again on the governors race in Virginia and New Jersey, where there is just one week until election day here with me to do all that our politics editors are processed and he's our thinking, Also for us is managing editor. Might your column hey my gun, ok, one and and a journal constitutions, Washington, corresponding TIA Mitchell. Welcome back at the past year. Thank Heaven, back on always great. How do you show next Tuesday

election day in Virginia and New Jersey for governor and state lawmakers, and these only regularly scheduled statewide elections on offers like this year, so they say as a high profile test of the current political environment in the Virginia winners, race, democratic, Terry Mccall of Weeds Republican Glenn, Duncan by two points in five, thirty, its pulling average in New Jersey? There hasn't been enough pole to get a reliable average in the governors raised, but a high quality public pull last week suggested a close contacts, so we will get to that pulling. But let's begin with Virginia the governors, whereas there has taken by point, since we talked about it last week to points now I mentioned at what point: should we consider this a toss up that a toss up now. I think it's atossa, and I also think that Junior is one of those states that we continue to look at to see if they actually gone completely blue or they can still go.

either way so to me, like all the polling, we're seeing and in the pooling of poles that fat thirty he's using that track. Everything shows that, like it really, I think either candidate can win. I think he is right. one thing I kind of would push back on and something we have talked about last week. Is this idea that the race has like really tightened rate that you know from last time we talk to now it's about a point but by the same token, like if you kind of squirrel back since we ve been collecting Paul Paul since August its hovered between that two to three point range, which suggests, though, to be clear that it is a close race. I just kind of trying to pursue it. stage how much of it is really tightening here at the end, verses, it's just been competitive here. Fur quite awhile, and still I think he knows he is getting at two with Virginia in particular. It is

that has tended more blue, but it also is kind of purple is still, and so I think that's why all eyes are on Virginia right now, because of young can did when you know it would be the first time that Republicans have want to statewide office in like three or four elections, so that would be sizeable that that had happened. Yet I would go with toss up to and if you just had like a couple words to describe the rays, I think wherein toss up territory now, five thirty eight. We obviously care a lot about the granularity here. So I think, if, if we had a forecast of this race, for example, let's say Mcculloch was sixty forty favorite sixty percent to forty percent. Chance of winning right or the day he was a fifty five forty five percent favorite we care about those differences, and so in that sense, if you just label the race atop us up- and I think you lose a little bit of information right, you'd lose to information. That Mccullough does happen

a consistent, but very small, led in the pause, but that kind of really small edge? Just in terms of probability is we talked about this before if it's just hard to communicate, and so I think I like a short hand, toss up is really your. Your best bet is essential. had Raina Virginia, has its parts, that are you know, Northern Virginia, which has considered more liberal, more democratic leaning, but then you talk about other parts of Virginia like Western Virginia, you would consider much more conservative areas of the state. but just the state has a lot of diversity, those areas, l, smaller towns that aren't so Natural, Paul it in That's what makes up a swing stay, that's what makes up a swing electorate and then on topic. you see that young can isn't just sticking to those conservative areas of Virginia He is,

campaigning around the state and campaigning in more Democrat EC cities and That also shows that he thing that he can pick off. Voters that, may you know, vote one in a presidential election, but have different values or a different things that they consider when their voting for a governor and I'm really curious about turn out. You know we saw the twenty twenty presidential election record high turn out the Georgia run off had high turn out the California governors recall election had high turnout. Now, in the pulling that we have, there does seem to be. You know and enthusiasm gap between people who would support in color versus people who support young can, with the UN, can having an edge there. It's about a foot

point edge roughly. However, you know, as we often say at five thirty, you know a person who is unenthusiastic can vote just as easily as someone who is, and that had been a concern going into the California Recall election that just wasn't born out. There was huge voter turn out more than fifty percent our foreign twenty six million eligible voters cast a ballot, I'm curious, but how here in Virginia and to what extent, then it is either Trump motivating people to vote, and that was something that came out of again the California election. I think even going back to the twenty eighteen midterms, you know demo site a lot like legos healthcare. That one was it was it Trump being on and, of course, Trump isn't on about the sheer, but he still so much in induce environment and how we cover politics and in

genuine particular. I think it's an interesting dynamic there in the sense that motivates core elements of the republican base, but overall he's very unpopular in the state and so young and has had to kind of trend that ground lightly in terms of how much to kind of lean and trot think that an amateur is so interesting that young kin is working to align with Trump enough, so that he doesn't turn off the base, but divert from Trump enough so that he can still appeal to a wider electorate in a general election and a lot of Republicans who will be on state. Why ballots. You know, of course, like em report for Georgia and we ve got some big racist coming up in twenty twenty two. I think there's daddy injunction to see how do you do that? How do you make sure that you stay aligned with Trump enough that he remains on your side, so that his people main on your side but so aligned with chopped that you can't kind of shake

tromp Shane when it comes down to try to he'll in a general election and set me up. All that show the re so tight shows that in a way, young kids has been able to do that. Yeah. I think that's right. I think the young has been at least somewhat successful, and I haven't afoot and in both camps, and I think it it shows that there are. Trip swing, voters who are differentiating between Trump and potential republican candidates in including young. Can you know there's this pull that showed that about half of respondents thought tromp as as a major factor in how they were going to vote basic

with the same amount as said the same provided, which is pretty crazy, considering Biden has to sitting president and Trump is nothing right now, so I think you can at least so far has has walked. That line pretty well from his point of view, yeah our former colleague Harry End in kind of drove right at this debate, or this idea. In some sense he wrote a reason peace for CNN titled Democrats win Virginia, they should think Donald Trump. Do you think that's an accurate view. I guess in the sense that, if it weren't for Donald Trump, and popularity in the state and still playing a role in people's minds that it seems like Duncan would be winning this race. I think it's Finally, I shudder to Harry. I love you hurry. I think I think get say you full short hand, to understand and important dynamic going on, which is to say, Trump is unfair

the other overall and particularly with left, leaning, voters and young can to some extent. One is associated with tromp and two is associating himself tromp pride he's been ambiguous about the twenty twenty election. He showed up at that stop the steel event which he claimed he didn't know, is to stop stop this year. them, but I think it's kind of broader than that. I would find it more as how much has partisanship and polarization just kind of froze the electorate in place. You know how many, how many democratic leaning voters are going to vote for Duncan I think the answer is not many, but I think they are also is maybe enough that that young people can, when more independent two, because I think Biden, what would have one independence by a significant clip in Virginia shirt

independence, but including independence to who typically vote Democrat Bra, underpinned the church. But I get my my point. The reason I'm sort of pushing back a little bit on the wider framing than just drop is one question I think we have going into this, for example, is, a left, leaning state like Virginia with the majority of voters, support vaccine and support vaccine mandate, support scene of science based covert responses. How much will young kins stances on covered, which are much more aligned with Republicans generally much more frankly, don't take the pandemic seriously? How much does that hurt Young can that's connected Trop and in this sense a trump basically set the

Publication platform recovered, but it's not about trumped specifically or narrowly outs. Gonna say when I read that article: it's like you could also make the opposite argument that if Democrats lose, you can think Donald Trump. You know because that means young king was able to keep trumps color mission on his side and build upon it, you know so young can can't win without Donald Trump or die. Don't trunk could destroy Duncans chances. If you want it too, I guess maybe another way of putting it because he still needs those republican voters to support him in the general election. So I to make this point. Whoever wins or loses trouble won't be the them one factor, and he may not even be the deciding factor At the end of the day, this is still a race about issues beyond just the former president

I think that's what I struggled and most with this question is like we want it to be kind of this convenient through line from all these elections like ok, it's like it still, because Trump is or isn't on the ballot and how're Republicans like remain themselves now and the Party of Trump and what does that do for voters and races, and I think, in this region particular unkind of curious to see to what extent covered is most important factor for voters like we definitely saw that that was the case in California, but I would Turkey. We were at a different point in that trajectory. You know now Genuine, you ask voters like what the top issue is. They say the economy you see, young can get better ratings on that, however, Lake in terms of the issues. The best bet recall of does is on covert, so if that is something that voters are still really worried about, they want say like a mandate in the workplace like does that led them to vote for Mccall? If I do think prop will be a factor right and I think the poem

shows that clear, but but so well a lot of other things. I think the better way to put it as as we ve all been getting at is to what extent will this race be nationalized? the more nationalized, the better from the caliph right, because Virginias is a kind of a light blue state and and races in general Send it given the Tories, who have all become more nationalized more closely coordinated with the presidential vote in recent decades, but that nationalization process is the least strong in gubernatorial races. So I think they're still enough room their fur for young can to have a chance in question is how much room or it well. We won't be covering that race night of our live log, so folk should turn and then, of course, we were also checked and on this race the day before election time to be next week, but let's move on to New Jersey, so we have not seen the same level of pulling out of New Jersey that we see a lot of Virginia just because it's not expected to be asked

but a new Emerson College Poll, shows democratic incumbent, Phil, Murphy, leading republican challenger Jack generally by six points, and that leave falls to four points when you assign responding to say their meaning one way or another so that to say that amongst leaner is Jack generally has the advantage so six points. Verses. Four points is the difference between a pretty rare pulling air and are not so we're pulling air and could give us some sense of truly how competitive this election is. So Maybe a many good use, appoint daddy's appalling gear, which number is the better do you assign minors and say that this general Emerson called pulled points to this being a four point race or not? I think generally utes good practice to assign Linares. If you look back at pulling historically, including the leaders, gets you kind of result closer to the eventual outcome than not, including the leaders when, when we enter poles and our database

To conclude in Africa, for example, we we always include liners this race, it you know, I think it's competitive. There has been barely any pulling. The polls that we do have most recently show the Democrat been in the midst single digits and it's an environment where we would expect Republicans to over perform. So you know if, if you're going into this, raise just thinking hey, this is New Jersey. The Democrats, gonna win no problem I think this you know these are all the conditions where, as you know, we shouldn't be surprised by a surprise right, not that much polling environments that favour the republican sort of like the phrase getting attention at the last minute. I don't know why I would call the I would. I would start by thinking of this race as a competitive rates.

I mean, I trust and thirty eight and I trust the polling that you guys so I mean I think so. I guess I was surprised it was. You know, a six percent ratio, even more so a four percent race is closer than I would have guessed for New Jersey, yeah Chris Christie by initially Chris Christie was seen as this moderate different type of Republican that could become governor of abuse state, and so he was seen as a moderate exception to the rule yeah one little fact I hadn't known was that, if or if he wins reelection, who will be the first to it since I believe the nineteen seventeen as a Democrat, which is while, given what we know about how New Jersey, boats, recent presidential elections, they think it's too

just getting with Chris Christie me. No New Jersey has elected a republican governor before similar to Maryland rate in Massachusetts, in the sense of kind of these eastern states having more of a tradition on focusing on more moderate Republicans, and I think, that is important too kind of think about- should really he won the GEO primary by not being asked Trot began as some of the other candidates. He was up against. So I know you just had that whole section and talk about the Virginia race and kind of what role is Trump playing on the ballot. He did play on the ballot in the primary here, and perhaps too, for more independent voters. You know the top issue according to one of them. Emerson polls that came out recently in the race taxes and people are worried about the economy, and that was overwhelmingly the top issue among Republicans, but it was also you know. Fifty one percent of Democrats is, were concerned about taxes, which

No, if that's kind of the top issues, that's bubbling up historically, at least Republicans have generally really well on that issue know is that something that plays the cheetah rallies advantage here and in New Jersey I'd. I do think one thing that become more clear and the polling, and this applies in New Jersey, but his true nationally is the extent to which fears about the economy really popped up as an issue. I think, as the delta variant searched and ass, we got those reports about inflation. I I think I sort of become more convinced that the chief explanation for why, as covered case cases, have declined and as I can stand, has faded from the news Biden. Approval numbers have not bad bounced back of anything live there

gonna little worse. It seems like there's this economic pessimism that has taken hold in the electorate and in New Jersey. I think that could be what makes us makes this race competitive kind of, as there were sent taxes in New Jersey always like a big issue, because property taxes are out of control there, but there are public and candidate. You know I was gonna. One pull this favourable, for example, and it was like forty percent fairer bull, forty percent unfavourable and the rest have had no opinion or not sure. Basically- and that's What you need to win as ever Publican in a blue state, is for lots of people, not the really have that strong feeling on your right into sort of more Bia generic Republican, somewhat of a cypher or as well as with Virginia. We will watch what happens there. Let's move on and talk about the build back, better plan, but first today's

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The honest answer is, we all know what no I bet that nobody so present Violence is headed on an international trip. Part of the mission of this trip is to talk about climate change at this international. it so he would like to at least be able to go to this summit with a clear picture of what this is going to do when it comes to in climate change in America, which is part of that currently point: five trillion dollars: social spending and climate change bill. We know it's. Down to the one point, eight trillion dollar range, and so There is a lot of incentive on Democrats. to at least get a framework of what is going to be in that bill, so that binding knows what he because it's gonna be hard for him to pressure other countries to address climate change.

Can't say what America his own country is doing so there's an incentive for them to figure it out this week also as an incentive, because we know that if they dont figure out this bigger social spending and climate change package. That we'll make progress in the house very opposed to passing. Be one point: two trillion dollar hard infrastructure package, which is roads, bridges, transit. and funding for surface transportation expires October. Thirty first, so they need the bigger package. To come together, so they can also pass infrastructure by the If this month and not let surface transportation funding run out, because that being far loves and things like that so there's a lot of incentive to get it done, but it been moving very slowly now in so that short time for

is still very ambitious. What does it seem like? The remaining sticking points are, as far as they have been. Public well so many you know so Joe Mansion. He comes from West Virginia, which has a coal states. Oh he's been very sceptical, opposition no to the summit climate change provisions. Kristen Cinema from Arizona has been Listening to a lot, but particularly be way, Democrats wanted to tax wealthy Americans and businesses to pay for the package, so other having to completely redo, tax proposals in the bill and it looks like theirs gonna, be a tax on the ultra wealthy policy taxes on just rich people. If you will and possibly know tax increases on businesses, and then you have things like every day will hear about rank and file members

painting letter saying? Please don't touch this part of the bill that we really want, and so some pushing for like prescription drugs, pricing initiatives, but big farmers suppose and cinema has been opposed to that. And then we have met a care and should do television and hearing be covered in the people say that's too costly in Georgia. Medicaid expansion is something our democratic members. Really want because Georgia is among the conservative states that have not expanded Medicaid but now there are questions of, would that be longer term programme that its added or very short term, as as little as one year or maybe three years. So in there's just so much push and poor, because every member has priority these? They want to see in the bill, and we know everything is not gonna make it in

Bernie Sanders two year. Free community college is already kind of one of the provisions that we think are out completely. For example, as some of the final debate plays out much talk about the pieces that may make it an and may not be something of a competition between the three of you. I am going to ask you about the pulling on particular provisions. Whoever gets closest, we'll get a point. Vernal prices right rules, so you can go over if you like your has already from us. I was born ready, think so all right here, your first off just a given over all sense of how well informed Americans are on this or according to a recent CBS, you gotta pull how many Americans say they know a lot of the specifics of the bill and we want rotate through who begin for this. I t I will begin with you twenty percent twenty percent Michael I'll, say: thirty, seven percent, alright, Sarah, twenty seven percent tear you,

it only ten percent of Americans said they know a lot of the specifics of the. I don't know. I should be celebrating that terrible. We gotta do a better job. A lot but yeah be a lot is where we do a little it stuck with me. You know you got me really plugin, because its It's been changing at its it's complicated stuff in a way that there is a lot to learn about the bill. There's a lot in it, so there's a lot took on. So I'm not sure I know a lot about what's in this bill. I'm sorry twenty nine percent of Americans, so they don't know what's in it at all thirty three percent, so they have a general sense and no some specifics. So there was arranged there, but in terms of people who know a lot and was only ten percent so that one point fourteen major you're gonna kick us off for the next one: what percentage of Americans saving support, federal funding to lower Medicare prescription drug prices? Can you repeat the question? Please? I will tell you exactly how the question was phrased. Would you support or oppose

federal funding for the following one of the things included: lowering Medicare, prescription drugs prices, I'm gonna, say. eighty seven percent and eighty seven percent Sarah eighty five percent, eighty five percent to sixty five percent or make us got it. It is eighty eight percent of Americans just one percentage point away in the polling that CBS News and you got dead where they asked a whole bunch of different things about this, build that better act. That was the highest support of any of the provisions. This is this is not to interrupt again, but I think this is part of why Cinema has gone a bit more elbows thrown out her

mansion, in addition to the just kind of lack of clarity on what she's opposed in this bill, what you would support the fact that she's coming out against literally the most popular part of this legislation. I think it's why she's come in for more criticism, but from her colleagues and from the media as well as just because the appearance of having you know a cosy relationship with big pharma in the fund raising and things. Coupled with that, you know, I think that makes it also just kind of the optics surrounding her opposition to that provision. great for her a cynical person, you know might think that her campaign donations are influencing how how she's vote it, but we're not cynical here are we are so it is one point, forty one point for my guy: Mr Opportunity, your second software, so accordance

same CBS news. You have pulled how many Americans support universal Pre k for children. Sixty eight percent, sixty eight percent- yeah, I'm going to stick with sixty five percent Myra. I vaguely remember this being one of them, lower policies in terms of how much support at tat time a girl with fifty one percent may be lower than that. Ok you got it, seven percent of Americans say they support universal predicate for children, you're, both very close to and sweat sandwich reddened between sixty five and sixty eight. But that means you ve coordinated. Those are something behind my back, but that means dear you, gotta plaint might get you gotta point answer you gotta plant, but yeah. It's it's reasons, well supported and it looks like it's going to remain in the final declaration of the bell with some debate.

Over you know, there's universal pre, K and then and then funding for child care. That would come before precarious and there's been some debate over whether that childcare portion will be included. I think that still being debated, but you are ok you're in a three way tie and, let's see, if can breakfasts according to a morning consul political whole from this month. How many Americans think that the extended child tax credits set to expire next year should be made permanent tier we're back to you, I'm going to say, extended TAT Child tax credit permanent, seventy two percent, seventy two percent mica, I'm gonna- go where seventy three percent, seventy SARA. I think this is like fifty two percent this with lower. If I remember right for american support, I think, we'll see will see sir. You got it that is but Lower than

Fischer, ochre, thirty five percent of Americans say at least probably the expanded child tat credit sector expire next year should be made permanent, while fifty two percent said they should probably not, be extended. Why is that sell us doing some research on this over the weekend, not cheat and get pull numbers, but in a general sense of what the american public thought- and I was surprised by that too I realise that this programme has been in place since the nineties, what was at stake was extensions that Democrats made as part of the corona virus package passed earlier this year, and so that America, because, like just as if they dont extended, it's not gonna go away, it's just like. Should it be at the same level at span, and I think maybe Some voters are kind of way well. Do we still need stimulus, funding in some way or manner? That's that's my agreed on it. I also think that

because right now, the way the tat, the tax credit was also altered, so that parents get a check every month, and I think that in I think that is perceived as welfare for poor people, for people of color tends to naturally be less poppy. Now again, that's a perception, because we know that all types of families are receiving the child text. Credit in that white families in things like that but unfortunately, the stereotypes about receiving a cheque from the government every month are rooted in you know little bit of classes on and a lot of racism- and I would again em out- have any insight, but my gut tells me that's one of the reasons why it's among the least popular, which would what I would perfectly answers, the sort of, can that was bubbling in my head, which it wishes like. Why would this be low relative to something like universal preaching, but he was just getting a universe,

Ok, universal is in the name where something you know where you have these kind of risk fist, and it's also a service versus cash. Well, I guess part of what I am having at is. sure. Americans are so in the weeds on the stuff that Like I hear you, Sarah, you know: do we need this elevated level of stimulus for the baseline has covered perfect getting better. how much are there that in the weeds on it, you know, I think more likely I mean that that might be playing some rob, but more like a bigger. A bigger role, I think, is his with tears, driving out, which is just what programmes you two are associated with: helping black people, helping hispanic people and which are not and in the former

Egypt Skype. I support a hundred percent its flag. Medicare is always more popular than Medicaid. I thank tee. I hit it on the now so just to just to clarify exactly how to pulling breaks down here. This is the question, as you may know, the expanded child tax credit payments or start to expire next year. Do you think that payments should be made permanent? Yes, definitely: eighteen percent, yes, probably seventeen percent, no, probably not eighteen percent. No, definitely not thirty. Four percent dont know slash no opinion. Thirteen percent, in any case, let her on. So it is now one tier one mica to Sarah, Sir. Making a comeback. Turning off for a guy, what percentage of Americans support federal funding for medical coverage for dental I and hearing sixty three percent. sixty four percent. Sarah, now its senior citizens gotta, be like eighty two percent higher eighty two percent,

Our is at your is that your final answers, a final answer, a guy TIA, I'm going to say eighty, eighty, ok, it is eighty four percent. She said if you got it, I have another nail by Peter with areas this this is bullshit it is unfair that ring and Sarah, you know actually are, are well versed in these subjects, and I am not, I think, I'm at a disadvantage here What's the senior vote? That was another big saying that I took away from kind of like reading up on some of it this weekend. It's like that whole shtick in veep, where it's like Jonah's uncle controls like the older citizens in New Hampshire. It's like

turns out when you try to like build programs that will help older people. Those are really popular, so I had a suspicion that this one would be, though I know like dental- might be on the chopping block, because it's really costly to include yeah, so there's some debate over how much of this will end up in the final bill, but from what I understand the most recently have considered dental voucher as opposed to covering all of dental, because, as you mentioned, it will be so expensive. Also in this pool. I do have cross times for this one. Seventy four percent of Republicans and eighty three percent of independent supported this- that's how you get as high as eighty four percent overall. So now it is sir you, three points making you have won t you have won t, let's, let's team up to overtake Sarah,

to you- and I are forming an alliance here- is a is a kind of right, tricky one and I think sir, you are going to take us offered. So a recent vaults data for progress. Poor asked Americans about the climate provisions in the bill specifically asking the federal government is considering a new clean electricity performance programme. Utility companies that meet certain clean energy performance goals would be given incentives from the government, while those that fail to comply will be required to pay a penalty. Would you support or oppose this clean electricity performance programme? What percentage of Americans said they would support this clean electricity performance programme climate, I think, is generally pretty low over all like because if she were getting at the lake, the dental coverage that was much higher. Eighty percent Republicans were on board too. I think fifty two percent that's low. Their pupils are too I'm going back on this day. Sixty two sixty two

Major. You know I actually added a piece about public opinion around climate. What was Sarah guess again? Fifty two I dont think its lower than that, I think I'll say fifty three percent tat you have one. sixty three percent yet here I can t. I now have three points to separatist fatigue, team. yes, Sir, it is relatively high compared to a fifty fifty baseline. Although it looks like this is not going to be a part of the final bill because of opposition from Senator Germander. I think they're looking for other ways to try to impose regulations on pollution and carbon emissions, but sadly this is not going to make it in

So we are now Sarah three TIA to make up one, and we are starting a duty. What percentage of Americans think that companies should offer both mothers and fathers paid parental leave? I'm going to say seventy percent? Seventy percent mica seventy one percent, Sir Yang. I definitely it's in the seventy percent, so we ve got seventy seventy one. Seventy two must observe, That is why we have to reckon birthday. You guys tear you when it. Actually, it is sixty seven percent of Americans. According to you, gonna pull through a combination of both mothers and fathers paid parental leave. Seventy five percent of women say this and

sixty two percent of men, save US team, TIA Mica, take the lead in alliance is off. I don't need you, and so it is doing at three. My got one and it looks like this programme, but a scaled back very likely going to make it into the bill back better act. I think a regionally. The proposal was twelve weeks of paid family leave and the current proposal is four weeks of peered family leave and they may might also alter whose eligible they first they were wanting to include like gig workers in things like that. So the twelve in the four weeks in the discussion that think also what types of workers could be eligible is also part of the discussion. Girton are so moving on MIKE. I think you are going to take us off for this one. What percentage of Amerika?

favour making tuition at public colleges and universities free for all american students have a question before my answer: go for it is this about public colleges, period or community. College is two years. This is about all public colleges and universities, so there will be an even more ambitious programme. Then why Sanderson Biden were originally interested in which was two years of free community college which looks like it's not, as you said to you, are going to make it I am going to say forty eight percent, sixty four percent. What sixty four percent

I think it's like middle middling high, and I was wrong on climate change, so still seen as a fifty percent. Fifty percent Sarah Windsor Swords sixty three percent of Americans at least somewhat support for tourism and public colleges and universities. There are strong, partisan differences here. Sixty three percent of Republicans or republican, meaning voters opposed to making college stricken Free or eighty five percent of Democrats favour it. The reason I thought the sixties was too high, as I remember seeing pulling that showed support fur. Community college so as well talking about us like

now our range in the local sixties. So I don't know, maybe people aren't differentiating between the scope, their surprise that that ended up on the cutting room, for it has given like how popular was. Did you have any like special insight, TIA covering their sunlike? Why that part of the bell there, just like no we're not gonna, include at all. I think it's expensive number one, and I also think it not is universally in alike. Galen said that partisan divide on this particular one. So I think it was just stay or among the easier once for Democrats to say, will have to get at it in another way at another time, and it looks like they're going to tried to get out in another way and the way they were going to do. That is the way that was favoured by private colleges and universities, which is to accept

and telegrams. Essentially, there are a lot of forty or institutions that we're saying: hey, you're gonna, make community college free that sucker for us, we want sort of those dollars spent, boosting the for your colleges and whatever, and so by boosting Pell grants. That means that those can be used at community colleges or four year, universities, which is what those universes we're lobbying for all right next question which starts with: where were we, I think, we're starting with Sarah this time right. So it's Sarah forty, three mica one. yeah sure we reform the alliance, nothing up there. I do want my lonely point: do you want to form an alliance faulty off I'm ok or so Now, let's talk about how much support there is overall, so when it

phrased as such, I'm interested how many? What percentage of Americans Porthos the build back better plan is three point: five trillion dollar proposal that would expand Medicare benefits to include vision, hearing and dental care to make long term care for seniors and people with disabilities, healthcare and childcare. More affordable, extend tax cuts for families with children and great clean energy jobs. Do you support or oppose the build backbiter plan? What percentage of american support, but it's been getting like less popular overtime justice as its fifty four percent? Fifty four percent to seventy percent? Seventy percent. Fifty three percent goes to tear up so tat. You have four points now. Sarah! You like, I used to have one point rising for real

job before now: it's getting real trees. Ok, this builds on that last question. So the last one was, from October Vocs Data for progress pull when he asked that exact same question a second time, but they added the line for describing how the bell was gonna get pay for so they added like basically comma a proposal that is paid for by raising taxes on the wealthy and large corporations. What percentage of American said they supported it tee? I think we start with sixty six percent. Sixty six percent say probably up more popular seventy percent. Seventy percent Sarah can make us. Is it got more popular two concepts like that? The questions, unlike the corporate tax, it until popular six,

five percent and it goes to tear. So it was sixty. Seven percent increase the popularity by three percentage points. So now it is five tier one mica for sir, we just got a couple more questions here: a wrap up with some of our conversation about how it's going to get paid for, and maybe some of the republic and attacks so making we're, starting with Europe one. What percentage of American supported expanding IRS enforcement for taxes owed visit. One of the provisions that seemed like it's going to at this point make it into this bill for raising revenue to pay for the programmes expand. IRS in Fort Smith for taxes out. You know, as I feel like. I should bow out of this game like at what point does this do we believe in you come out get one was. Why do I put you? Gotta furious long, lasting harm to my career.

I will say this is tricky because it's like, I think people support making people pay their fair share serpent. Nobody loves the IRA ass right may so that this fun. I must put the difference. Fifty percent fifty percent, our guy Sarah fifty seven percent, fifty seven percent to sixty five, percent. Six, even ok, visitors to Sir fifty eight pressure, recognizer too good at this game. I got within a percentage point that should be close enough give you a gold star. There was it because we are changing tat, clear. It was you go first? Some I love. However, ones now is like trying to be gentle with me. It's ok, I like you, so now we have to break the time. We have ten five, Sarah five

I got one who wants the alliance. That's one way to break the Thai, so according to a no labels pole conducted last month. How many Americans are concerned about the impact of a total of four point: seven drill trillion dollars in spending on runaway inflation and the four point. Seven trillion is one point: two trillion bipartisan infrastructure package with the initially proposed three point: five trillion dollar bill pact, better plan. What percentage of Americans have they are concerned the impact of that spending on runaway inflation seems like a little bit of a lead in question here. No labels definitely has ended up a point of view on this for sure. So if you dont like them, Paul. I have a CBS Pole cat on what, by administration, is putting the right amount of focus on inflation. That's interesting! you can't you I got one about it. We will make them.

Maybe this pole part of the exercise, but does anyone have a gas as to where the public landed on that that the question was Are you worried about the price tag? Basically right, it was like worried about runaway inflation? If Congress spends not much money, Are you worried? Spending trillions in trillions of dollars will increase very scary, runaway inflation. That answer the question right yeah I mean I wanted it that way just you know playing just you know I will say, like sixty percent in the way it was worded. I went to the ok I'll say fifty seven percent like asking, it was seventy four percent. Oh, it should. It shows how valuable be the power other push Paul. Okay. So let's ask the more righteous CBS News Pour question: we're still at five five one. This is the typewriter. Whoever gets this one wins,

unless it's? U mica, then I guess we'll still be tired of this. This I forgot to know as managing editor discussions worth ten points, oh really, a decision one Image of Americans think the binding administration is putting the right amount of focus on inflation. Forty two percent, fifty two percent forty six percent, Sir, you got it. It is only thirty. Three percent hang wording too a CBS news Paul from this model, while sixty percent think that not enough focus is being put on inflation, and, according to the same survey and majority of american Sixty six percent believed that the inflation is caused by? U S, government policy, but the reason for the inflation that receive the highest percentage was supply and manufacturing issues after the pandemic, and that was seven percent, so I will say this does go back to what we are talking about earlier, where relative to

We were two weeks ago. I do think that sorry about the economy and inflation and anxiety there play more of a role in binding slump than we thought, or than I thought I should say which isn't it? now, as you said, we were talking about the no labels poor because, like it is a partisan actor, but you know- and I realized the questions aren't phrased the same way while they will try to their normal bragging about what that they're, not apart as regards that guy, I'm like a business can a barrier alarm, but like business business like a pack contributing money, you I got anyhow. I think it's interesting, though, that the CBS you gotta, pull roughly matches that indifferent, wait, a phrase the question definitely not as leading either but still suggest that gathers a lot of concern around us. I think that no labels-

Stan leading as it is, a sort of pushing on an open door. So to speak just in terms of people's fears. It also goes to remember on a previous podcasting Elam we're talking about the extent to which the media plays a role in shaping the narrative and kind of like interpreting events for the public the extent to which the the Democrats spending plan is, you know, reported as jobs, plan and economic plan, a social policies plant and like varies and- and I think, has an outside impact on how it on interpreted, and I think this is the great at the great example of why the agreement also Howdahs gets argued in the court of public opinion next year in the run up to the mid term. Of course, political adds use the argument that the public is most likely to accept, and so I think, will probably see this framing more and more, and this made maybe gives us some sense

of the vulnerabilities Democrats very smart. I think that said, though, you did highlight that the top reason why they thought it was happening with supply chain issues. So, on the one hand you know like if those issues of the pandemic are rectified soon, maybe concern around inflation won't be what it would it is currently, but on that thing that saying no, if they pass, this deal with new spending. That's just going to give those who believed government spending is out of control. That's a main line Mitch. Mcconnell has said thus far, so I think it's going to increase that focus in the Desa Whole different topic about education. On really where cover federal spending goes to, and even if you expand these social programmes, that's not the biggest chunk alot. You know that the stuff

People tend to like military spending. Medicare, that's where you're mine he's goin to, but it still is not gonna keep. You know the political attacks about around this spending. If, if Democrats event, ass both of these bills. I'm gonna be really interested to see like how the Media reports it because like there was, there is article from page in New York Times today or yesterday, which was to have. I was like I didn't see that compromise involves making sacrifices to I'm pretty sure, like Biden New in our cause, that's a definition of compromise, but will that you know it if they eventually pass up and will be reporting, as by the administration, succeeds, passes far reaching with legislation or will reported as binding traces gets only little bit of what it wanted and stumbled across the finish line. You now and then the Danes

placing debate plays sort of initiative weird way in those different framing, because I think Republican will be saying that suspending all this money which weird way lines with the framing the Bite administration wants, as they want this to be seen as a big. A big policy push all right. Well, we will be here on this podcast watching all of that play out two. Until then thank you, tear my gun and Sarah and congratulations. Yes. Since era, Lois makers final score. Michael, your trophies in the mail Micah, you did great Micah good job good everyday, the mega TIA alliance got six points and got six points still come on. My guy legit allegedly should cut the aligns together. The fact that I was not pulling my way to all was you know the reasonable reason to throw me overboard.

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