It really broke my heart. It really broke my heart, the reaction that the nine Slash eleven family members and many other new Yorkers and many people around the country ive never seen the reaction that we have gotten and I have one retired firefighter that was breaking down on the phone that couldnt believe they were doing it and we said oh wait, wait, relax tunnel to towers, we got this were going to make sure and weve already secured. The lights were going to make sure those two big beautiful beams of light that represent the loss on nine slash. Eleven will be shining this year at ground, zero pete- that was Frank Siller and for the first time since two thousand and two manhattans iconic twin beams of light, will not shine organizers of the nine Slash eleven tribute in lights, say. The health risks are too great for its large crew of forty to produce safely, but tunnel to towers. Frank Siller is refusing to let that happen here with me now to react. The

Navy seal who shot and killed Osama Bin Laden, Rob Oneill and Marine Corps Bomb Tech, Joey Jones Rob Joey. Thank you so much for being here so rob the visceral reaction from folks across the country has been immediate and real. Your reaction, yeah. I mean its disappointing that theyre not going to have it on, but its an incredibly difficult decision for the nine Slash Eleven Memorial Museum to do this. They want to do it. They just have so many workers, so many crowded people on a stage with the pandemic. They made it not as a political decision, but just a decision of safety, its awesome to see Frank Siller to step in the tunnel to towers Foundation, which is an incredible foundation and im sorry tunnel to towers dot org, because he will make it happen, its going to happen and they will be read and there will be beams of light. They are both great Americans. Both organizations are incredible. The memorial has been incredible to me and its a tough call. All around PETE Joey Rob makes a fair

point. Everyone is making their own calculations and considerations at this moment, but at the same time you know, tunnels to tower s is stepping up where someone else at this point is unwilling to isnt that what you look to a little bit of courage, a little bit of leadership in these moments to say, hey despite the moment were in, we can shine these lights to provide inspiration for everybody, no, absolutely PETE. I mean, I know Frank and I know tunnel to towers the story of them. Stepping up when other people wont its a song. Thats been played quite a bit its an amazing organization, and I dont have an opinion on the two lights as much as reading the names you know when things like this happen. It takes an act of courage to stand up and say you know. Some things in life are worth your effort and even risk, and when those towers came down, an entire generation assumed the risk not just physically of going to war, but to show an entire country that was scared and frustrated that well get through it and when we mark another year of surviving those towers coming down, surviving someone or something

some enemy trying to tear us down. I think this year is as important as any things like wearing a mask and staying six feet apart and washing our hands and protecting those most vulnerable. If any of that is true, it can be implement ed, and this is a worthy cause to do it. So, with the lights, I dont know the technical side of what those forty people do and how close they are, but to read the names and not even show up to do that. I think New York. You know they have to lead the way here. They led the way on the virus attacking their city and its their turn to lead the way on us going back to life, so im just disappointed in the fact that the names arent being read and that the one city in this world that stands as a shining light cant turn the lights on. So that is very disappointing to me, because this entire country deserves every signal they can have that we will get through this and were going back to life. Pete guys well have to leave it right there, but id love to have you both back for nine slash eleven as we cover these events are covered and remembered, no matter what and wed love to get your

thoughts as that day approaches as well.