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478. How Can We Break Our Addiction to Contempt?

2021-10-14 | 🔗

Arthur Brooks is an economist who for 10 years ran the American Enterprise Institute, one of the most influential conservative think tanks in the world. He has come to believe there is only one weapon that can defeat our extreme political polarization: love. Is Brooks a fool for thinking this — and are you perhaps his kind of fool?

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we need to have a leader that its provisions are you're, never going to be present. I realize I saw your way to less than forty two in Europe. Three sends out a ladder, I'm doing right, so you did lose because Trump was not the kind of republican or conservative candidate that you wanted and then in twenty nineteen you published a book called love your enemies. How decent people can save America from the culture of contempt in this book argues that we have reached. Contempt crisis in the U S and we need to fight it with kindness, essentially now, from the evidence I've seen since twenty nine in that argument of yours is not working so well either. So let me ask you this. Those were just statements now. Finally, is the rude question: how Do you rate yourself as a public persuade her in if not very well. Why not? Because you, smart IX.
rinsed well meaning person with good communication skills, experience, connections, etc. So what does this failure say? bout, either the message or the messenger. I have a latent demand strategy. late in the man strategies. They lose lot entrepreneur, ship means rolling out something new and better I might never succeed, but remember the average success want. Shipowner has three point: eight bankruptcies had a couple of bankruptcies, it wasn't bankruptcies. They were best sellers may, thus not nothing, and by the way I talked to mayors and governors all time. Many of them were successful. Using these ideas, both Democrats and Republicans who say on others an amusing it and help me get elected and is helping to govern and I'm governing across the aisle. I mean your right to say, that this ideology that I'm trying to inject it looks a little quixotic
till the windows or something I get it. But I think it's right. I think it's morally right. I think it can be popular and I think that had just might work, but you gotta keep trying. You can't stop just because you know look because work you didn't fit at the current moment. While I guess on entering device, I know best strategy, the prisoners with today is named. Arthur Brooks I'm a professor at the Harvard. Can so on the Harvard Business School, the latent demand strategy the Brooks mentioned: that's the kind of thinking employed by entrepreneurs like Steve Jobs. These are people who basically said I have a product, you don't even know what it is. You're gonna need it you're going to need it and latent demand is more powerful than extent demand and it can have much bigger markets in extent. Man but requires visionary entrepreneurship going on right now is that we have an untapped latent demand for the kind of countries
we want, which is an aspirational country which is not characterized by in earnest and polarization which is one in which we actually can learn from each other and one in which the competition between the ideological sides, which is good and healthy, because iron sharpens irons far as I'm concerned, is to see who can empower people the most. Instead, what we have is the actual d firing up dopamine in people's brains again and again and again again and creating addiction, and what are we addicted to contempt? That's his argument at least know who is Arthur and why should we be listening to him we'll get into full bio later. But briefly before it, aging leadership at Harvard he ran the American Enterprise Institute when the most prominent conservative think tanks in the country. Before that key,
as an economics professor, and before that a professional french horn player so is already had several careers and an unusual trajectory which has led him to an unusual belief, Arthur, Brooks believes that the best way to detoxify american politics may be. The only way is with I will not let the press, the media, politicians tell me, I've got a hate, my brother in law, I'm just not going to put up with it any more. In the end. People want to love, you didn't want to hate and then we can accelerate that with good leadership, and I'm telling you Stephen, I'm spending all of my time doing what I can to make love cool right now in politics, and how is this love offensive work? so for everybody hates me yeah, totally despised by one at all. Today, unfortunately,
can love really conquer? All is Arthur, Brooks a fool for believing it can and are you maybe his kind of fool? This is broken: MAX Radio, the podcast but explores the hidden side of everything. Here's your host Stephen Abner what say you are a bright, ambitious civic minded kid in middle, maybe- and you are considering a career in government, perhaps in Congress SOAP, the tune in one day to see what's happening on the house floor, coil of age or seventy one. Twenty, the judge you
two representatives Cedric Richmond of Louisiana. By the time I'm finished, you will be clear that we are not good friends and MAC Gates of Florida. Are you testing that you're certain that none of us have non white children? Having this sort of high minded debate, our founding fathers must have envisioned, because you reflect on your black sun, and you said, none of us could undermine stop I'm not about to get sidetracked about the color of our children. We're talking about black. I reclaim tat. It is not about the color of your kids. It is about black people in the streets, are getting killed and remove. One of em happens to be ok, I'm concerned about him to clearly are more concerned about him. Then you all Accordingly, I am for my family. Can I do to help you, gentlemen, war? Gentlemen? You should take those words doubt trying to end hold somebody into agreement is the stupidest thing you can possibly do Arthur Brooks again, I mean is completely ineffective, but it feels good
It feels satisfying in the very short run, but surveys suggest the most of his hate, this noise. Ninety three percent, if you believed him Dixons data on this. Ninety three percent of us hate. How divided we becomes a country Brooks is referring to Twenty eighteen survey run by an international group called more in common, which tries to build stronger communities and fight polarization. Now we can pretend that political polarisation is new. It's worth feature than a bug in many political systems. You can find incredible nastiness if you go back a century in american politics or a couple millennia
roman politics? The current american polarization has been building for a while now. Here's an example in the nineteen sixties, only forty two percent of votes in the? U S Senate were party unity votes that is votes in which the majority of Republicans opposed the majority of Democrats, or vice versa, by the twenty tens. That number had risen to sixty three percent here, some more data to consider in nineteen thirty five, the Social Security ACT was passed with ninety percent democratic support and seventy five percent republican sport, so not unanimous, but United. The civil Rights ACT of banking,
sixty four was passed with just sixty percent democratic support, but again seventy five percent republican. If you look at the major legislation passed in recent years, however, it's a different story: Obamacare made it through Congress with zero republican votes. President trumps, twenty eighteen tax reform bill made it through with zero democratic votes. This political partisanship is clearly echoed in the public. Consider how people think about the media in twenty. Sixteen, the Pew Research and are found, eighty three percent of Democrats trusted information from National news organisations, along with seventy percent of Republicans today. Seventy eight percent of Democrats still trust the major media, but republican Trust in just a few years dropped from seventy percent to thirty five percent. So how do we get here? What's been driving this intense
like in division and partisanship. It's a perfect for economics question. Actually so there's an interesting paper from the European Union, aggravated was published on twenty seventeen by three german economist that looked at eight hundred elections or hundred twenty years in twenty advanced economies, including United States, and what they found was that a funny? no crisis which is of two times a century, deal not irregular the shape recession, but a financial crisis like what we endured in the thirties will we endured in two thousand and two thousand nine as a varied strong impact in the following decade, on political polarisation, specifically on average, it causes the thirty percent bump in voter share for populist parties and care it is? This is Bernie Sanders Knowledge Drama, the numbers, so we don't know how to distribute the returns after economy is coming back without eighty percent of the returns going to the top twenty percent, an income distribution which opens the door for political populist, say, somebody's
your staff, and I get it back whether its foreigners or whether it's true aid or whether its bankers or whether, as wealthy people, you're saying that the populace sentiment comes from frustration over how the recovery, these are distributed because I was assuming it was about blue meeting the experts and elites for the underlying crisis? Well, there's that too, but generally comes later. Is the fact that I'm sorry people doing just fine. After the crisis, but I'm still not, and my brother in law Cletus is still on my fold out watching tv all day cuz, he can't get a job back and was like what the all, but then the real action happens because in democracy, which is the political version of capitalism in markets, people outside the leaders are not leaders. Their followers we work at signals, and so Donald Trump all he did was followed market signals. Bernie Sanders follows market signals, these news networks, they follow market signals and those markets
Ngos are coming from a whole lot of frustration and then, of course, the tale source to waive the dog. So the contempt that actually serving the markets, as an outlet of frustration for the lack of progress is going to the margins of society, then actually, fires at more contempt in itself, fuel Let me be sure I understand cause you're, saying all this frustration comes from us from the citizenry who feel duly wrong. by the big macro offensive. Ruined are livelihoods and that feeds into something that power. Since then respond to, and it creates this even bigger storm. But you also just told us that most of us don't want to be involved in that contemptuous partisan cycle. So saying that we are both victim and villain, we being the citizen Reno for and the same thing is true of any addictive cycle where you want Some relief answer you drink, then the homeostasis sets in and see it
some more and you want the relief, but you hate the process answerable. Wherein is this weird downward spiral of contempt tell us what you can about the science of contempt, I'd like to know for small, just how empirically it's been identified as a separate thing from let's say anger for anger- is a basic negative emotion. The negative emotions are produced. These of stimuli of your Limburg system is kind of. You your brain? Anger is a hot that says. I care what you think and I wanted to change the problem is when you mix these emotions in a complex emotions, so shame and guilt or complex emotions, for example, and content. Is this nasty cocktail of anger, plus disgust which is not a hot emotion anymore. It's a cold emotion. It says you are worth less and what you said is worthless? You aren't beneath my regard,
that's something that should be reserved for something: that's, not human! Reading. Your love, your enemies. It was so moving to me, especially the portions, where you're describing the difference between content. And anger. You right people often characterize the colonel is being angry. I wish this were true because anger tends to be self limiting, but then, when you mix it, as you have described with discussed in it becomes contempt, it totally print thing what I found some moving about. It was one very positive thing and one very negative thing. The very name The thing was you realize how easy it is for anyone to Tipp into contempt. In fact, I'd no of most of us have even noticed that we added that layer of disgust, tour anger, the upside. What makes me happy about it is once you can identify the forces that are being destructive. You can address those forces, so do most of us who exhibit
contempt or experience contempt, even know it. Do we identify the fact that something different then anger. The answer is no, because, as I have it our habits of committee, nation or his ingrained as smoking, I mean I've seen myself in debates about the four market system and somebody's Meda in Ill considered remark about capitalism, and I wrote my eyes Stephen and a guarantee you that my interlocutor didn't go home. Then I say I was debating the President America Enterprise Institute on CNN, and he was making a very good point because I think, as a jerk Anders is because I made somebody feel horrible with just one little action and I didn't hate the person. It was just a habit what do we know about the characteristics of people who are most likely to exhibit contempt order to be the target of contempt? In other words, breakdown, you can, whenever you can tell me gender, wise Republican, Democrat old, young, anything racially ethnically and so on. So we
see racial differences and we don't see gender differences have actually done differences between right and left what we do see as differences in consumption of media, so them What time you consume political information on social media, the more you're going to be both the victim and the perpetrator of contempt. The more that you watch, cable television, you're, going to be a victim and perpetrator of contempt, free sample. Answering questions like what do you think is the biggest the United States, the likelihood of you saying it's a person of the other party is directly related to how much political new that you consume, and I don't even have to know what political news you consume it's funny, but it's not re straight hits off the bottle for people who just can't handle it, make your best argument that, while feeling contempt seems to make us happy or satisfied in fact, makes us psychologically and physiologically worse off,
There is a really great psychiatry, professor at Stanford, medical school names and olympie. Who is a big new book out about dopamine? She talks about the addictions too. Video games and gambling and substances and pornography will they all have in common? Is that they really dopamine. So if Europe, the attic and you're watching six hours a day of Fox NEWS or Emily see? The reason is because raise lighting up like a Christmas tree. The problem. that you're neutralizing the pleasure you get from that almost immediately leaving you to have to take the drug again and again and again and again, these are sir, the neural chemical predictors of falling happiness and at the more met a level. What you find is that contempt is gonna drive your life? There's a very famous study called the harvesting of adult development which is an eighty year. Longitudinal study of people were get old. What are they all have in common is happy and well on the answers. Love. Just all you need to know happiness is love false,
ok, so is love, avert or unknown, discuss and feel free to show your homework. What I'm talking about is the love that we manage, that we make met a cognitive, so love is a verb. It is will the good of the other as other. What is love? Not it's, not a feeling and is incredibly important to remember because in our modern culture we tend to, in my view over valorize feelings which tends to throw us like bits of jet. Some on the surf, and worrying front around a lot, and it makes our lives have less quality. Quite frankly, it makes us bitter and angry in any makes us suffer a lot more than we need two. If you writing this. As some sort of it asian and an excellent paper where you are treating contempt and love as these commodities talk about how
to really where the supplies come from, where the demand comes from. In other words, how can this lovely, weary of yours actually work, your vice the instead of your virtue. Is your contempt divided by your love? If you want that force in your life to decline, so loudly. You should work on your contempt, but the real way to do that. We have got a lever. Is that you? a denominator, management strategy and them, that you increase the denominator, the more that vicious impulse will just magically decrease are you saying that love is proactive? Essentially in contempt tends to be reactive, it generally tends to be because its processed by the nucleus, the commons of your brain, which is What are your brain that governs your habit, foreign behaviour, and so you can basically say I won't be that way I won't be that way,
to say what I was trying to quit smoking and I was wound up like a seven cigarettes burning at once, because it would be like as binge behaviour at the end of the day and people will say I won't be. Can sumptuous and then they wind up watching MSNBC all night We should say the number of people who actually binge on MSNBC or the other cable news networks is to be small, MSNBC averages about one point: three million viewers during prime time, not so many the country of around three hundred and thirty million Fox NEWS, the biggest cable news network. Average is just over two million CNN, is under a million this one episode, of economics. Radio will be heard by more people than that but the noise from the cable news. Now the nearly constant Bali of contempt that noise reverberates.
Like someone shouting into a canyon, it disrupts any chance of peace. You might have hoped for so coming up after the break. How does Arthur Brooks propose to restore the peace, pretend that feeling this love notwithstanding your feelings, because an axe and what is this mean, if anything, for the future policy we need people from both parties that people going to vote for opposed to somebody who will defend me from the personal voting against that's coming up red. After this for economics, radio sponsored by shutter stock as a creator, everything you make needs to stand out. This is true for a variety of projects. Cleaning, building websites or presentations, designing social adds, creating videos and more with the collection of
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If I told you there was a public intellectual, a conservative who wanted to fight political polarisation and contempt with love and that this person was trained in economics. You might not believe me economists are about supply and demand costs and benefits. Not love, but Arthur Brooks is not a typical economist. Other everybody who is a professional economist, actually starts out of the french Horn Player Brooks grew up just outside Seattle. His mother was artists. His father Math Professor Arthur, started playing violin when he was four and piano at five, and I play the Torrent, starting on I was eight years old and that one really stock cause. I was good at it and its funding there's something when your kid and then when I went away to college all I to do do play so. If the California is due to the
that's where I dropped my required classes and took indonesian dance in north indian classical drumming and was invited to pursue my excellence outside of the institution. He spend the next ten years playing french horn professionally. The last several with the Barcelona Symphony, Org I moved to Spain to get a woman who didn't speak English in a bid to convince her to marry me, it worked that woman, Esther Mundt now Esther Much Brooks, is still his wife, but his musical career didn't asked Islam. There is really something missing. Miami and was to be the world's greatest french horn player not to make beautiful music and then that's a problem because I was all about extrinsic satisfaction, not intrinsic satisfaction, so I started doing correspondent school. I was playing the orchestrated Intel anybody's. Those embarrassed that they may think that I wasn't all in on music. This isn't musicians. Think, and I wound up secretly getting my bachelors degree by Correspondence-
and then I couldn't stop, and so I got my masters degree secretly at night at a local university. I decided as you know is so great. These ideas are too so interesting that I quit music and sort of my phd. I wonder for you, someone is coming to academia relatively late. What would you say where the benefits? What did you bring to that and pursue as a full grown adult here's the deal? People dont, know what they want. The most obscure single, most people's the nature of their own desire people. Ass, the wrong question. They say I want to do with my life. None of you don't know what you want and they look for exotic and sources of information, and they don't actually go through. The process of discernment. Every major philosophical and religious tradition has discernment, Discernment is part of Judaism discerned in is part of Buddhism. Certainly part of the nation tradition in Catholicism
Discernment is all about understanding the nature of your own desire, so that you can actually be happy and people will do as they ll say. Everybody goes to college after Highschool longer because it article one in HOLLAND and figure out what I want to do and then they get to cause like. I don't know what I want to do something I work for consulting firmer right software and then offer Europe when I want to do, and then they don't their hoping that some I'd experience comes the transom in those them what they want to do and that's not how it works, and so what and was having to make decisions for life and treating my life like an entrepreneurial endeavour. I figured out the nature by desire? I actually really really really want to be an ideal guy. I want to. Is that? Because some calls professor said you're smart enough to be like me, it was big
as I realise that I'm obsessed with ideas after his Phd Brooks became college professor First Georgia state and then Syracuse he would spend ten years in academia. He focused is research on philanthropy, primarily the motives that lead people to donate money. Out of this research came first book in two thousand six, it was called. Who really cares? The surprising truth about compassionate concern There was one thing in that book that people liked or didn't like, which was that as a general marids, wasn't very political is more religious nature that people have strong religious commitments, give more to all causes and cherries, including secular, causes Jerry's than people who don't have strong religious commitments, People were more religious, tend to be more conservative, and so therefore, this is the reason that we see a pattern in which, at that time, in particular conservative. Game or a charity, the liberals and for me, as an academic like big deal, man, I'm just
a bunch of data and I'm noticing these patterns, and also this one of the characteristic of conservatives, which is that they tend to think that the government is not effective. How much did you overlay that is so see ation onto this argument that conservatives give more to charity because they don't believe so much in redistribution, while liberals do and therefore think the government should distribute and therefore might give left to cherish, that was an interpretation on the basis of the associations that I shared. But I try to be careful about my language because I'm a guy, you know who does this research and so I know what the research is saying not but of course, the political thing was what was salient in hit the new cycle in just the right way, present wash read my book and when the presently I states is walking out through the helicopter, holding a buccaneer like what's that book is like some obscure college, professor, something I've also ringing so,
right that you were happily working as a professor at Syracuse. When you get a call from eighty, I, the American Enterprises Institute, asking if you'd think about becoming their president, describe that call how much of a surprise this development was. There were going through financial search that was going very poorly, and so they threw a dark down the hall, and basically me. I'd never raised a dollar and I'd never had one employee. It was just insanity, usually when an institution has a hard time finding a leader, it's for good reason that the places in bad trouble were they. The truth of the matter is, however, that most us two Chainz have a really hard time. Funny chief executive, I mean he's chancery their grind beer, the road all the time, their eighty, our we jobs and if you're you're going to be a universal president, but even more thinking presented you gotta be scholar, did it feel likely intellectual academic ideas based
operation that you envisioned or did you feel like? Oh it's an idea shop, but it's an idea shop geared towards producing policy that is meant to promote a certain spectrum of political interest, it was the former. It really was in part of the reason was because our scholars are notorious for irritating our friends get me give you an example. If you could be a talk about the care interest provision, which is basically a loophole where you take income and say, is not income per founders of certain kinds of businesses and our skills like now its income lower the income tax, but don't say this: only it is income, isn't income? Is we were saying things like that all the time I was getting, these outraged phone calls from donors all the time how can you scholars say something like this with a data telephone and I'm sorry what you want me to tell you. So let's say that:
I am a billionaire plutocrat and I wish to affect: U S? Policymaking! Ok! Where do I get the best? Are why a funding a think tank to support research. It promotes my agenda and works its way into the bloodstream, be locked in members of Congress directly or perhaps these some other route like a public relations. Campaign were media blitz. Buyer budget. tv stations in newspapers- and I would probably start a cable network- that's really gonna be Lessing. A movement of people were highly ideological and that's where you don't have to worry about anybody telling you you're on the whole idea. That you're actually going to be informed by cable media. That is just insane if you think that if you're actually going as I get off, I'm going to watch these cable news works, especially during primetime. I'm really gonna find out. What's going on with Biden what's going on with you know, the Russia Luzhin case were Trop, no you're, not you're. Basically, Have your biases scratched
if you go to the other side, is he with the other side, is saying you're going to recognise the x allergens on these half truths and rumours and that won't change how you think either. So we have a big problem with the means of community, in this country in the way that we actually do so called news there things that can happen. They can radically changed this environment or We can have a slow kind of oozing moving forward where the leadership in one or both it is basically says I've had enough of enough. What really really hope is that you have this: never good old days, demurred, twenty twelve Obama and Romney were, just do can it out about who is going to be a better opportunity politician for the american public, and I knew tons of people like I don't know who to vote for it. which one of them I like more and instead, you get into twenty. Sixteen, if you like I don't know who I like less things? Can Ain't really fast in american politics and
we need people from both parties that people going to vote for as opposed somebody who will defend me from the personal voting against that's what we actually want. So you ve come braided with the Dalai Lama, and you asked him once what to do when you feel tempt and his answer was practice warm heartedness, and then you did exactly what done, which said? Can you say a little bit more about that? Please, are there any specifics? You got it else, your holiness, then, as you re, he suggests that you think back to a time when you answered contempt with warm heartedness room Amber how that made, you feel and then do it again. Is it really that simple Cosette sounds like even could do that. Its amazingly good psychology is right, versing an automatic process? There's a famous exercise that I teach to my hovered students now how a class in hand?
thus in when you're feeling unhappy. If you want to feel happier, if you put it pencil in your mouth and bite downs with sideways in your mouth and your biting down in your molars. That will actually strain the orbicularis oculi. In the corner of your eyes, giving you a little crows feet and that signal to your brain, that you're doing a dilution, smile, which is the only smile associate with true happiness, and it runs the cost reality no direction and you will literally feel happier. So that's what I'm suggesting pretend that you're. doing this love notwithstanding her feelings, because its and acts as a commitment is not a feeling in so doing you run the cognitive process in the opposite direction and you'll get results, And that's what it always always telling me you just not telling me and those we wonky nerdy terms so making the argument that people individuals can and should opt out of the contempt industry, and act is more warm heartedness, but
wonder if you're being somewhat pollyanna sheer, because the leverage in the reach of the industries, that moat contempt, especially the political and media industries there very powerful. So what makes you think that those liars could ever be taken down by even a very large army of David's. Well, the answer is that every movement actually starts with a few people know what put leaders do what institutions do they get in front of parades are going down the street saying, Brady's needs a leader and the prince gotta start someplace, and none of the things that are right are at odds with the idea that situational jack, that's true, too, but only thinking. The traditionally only thinking in terms of systems doesnt actually get out the intrinsic truth, which is that everything action starts with a few individuals that was gone. These big point- that was Martin Luther King Big Point, Martin Luther King, didn't start by going to the Department of Justice too
break up racist institutions in the south, Martin Luther King got people together. Who said, I think that we can start making things better. can act in a particular way. We can show steely courage with boundless love. A lot of social scientists argue that window Groups are presented with a common enemy they tend to unite. I heard a lot of people posit that covered nineteen would be that common, That would bring everyone together that it would lessen contempt. I see. No evidence stunned that. Why do you think not that leadership we had an opportunity and under appropriate leadership the country to come together, and it did no parts of the world not perfectly clear, still, dissidents in this. no problems and there's uneven recovery. I get it the fact of the matter, is that the present United States used covered to divide, as opposed to using covered during the night, every leaders gotta choice. and when the president I say I mean it would have been great if the whole country said no, we refuse. We will
Together we will, but the president states has a lot of power. It was a classic case of dividing temperatures leadership in our moment of need and what about Biden. There's the Chinese, like you say too soon, to tell course. They said that about the french Revolution, it's too soon to tell because the cycle is still really upon us, but I would love to see is Biden not being in? wall of the loudest voices on his own sign. If you want contempt to being the rearview mirror, yet a stand and people on your side, because Heliopolis we have credibility and of Biden, would start to appoint some good modern. Republicans, too, ranking positions and do really really moderate things which seems to me, was characteristic of his political career. Up to this point, the enormously beneficial for bring us together? Here's a sentence from your book that one doesn't often read my
admiration for politicians has grown enormously. go on to right. They are some of the most patriotic hardworking people have ever met. They love America an eight hour culture of contempt as much as you, and I so Arthur. That's the case. Why are they the players in that industry not able to tempt down the contempt the about almost scale where it's one of the versus the entire infrastructure of media the rest of politicians, the most powerful politicians, its massive collective action programme, when I say my respect for politicians is risen, is true. Not all politicians I mean summer opportunists and some of them are really creating the problem wholesale, but the truth or is the most that I've met their smart. There twisted what's going on. They want to make things better in the know. How and just the rest of us, they feel a lot of fear and people action some optimal ways when their fearful, how much time do you spend talking so
with republican candidates, Congress, people strategists and zone ally? Not everybody is that, like President Tromp is calling me, but I do have the pleasure of talking to a lot of people and Capitol Hill and what I'm talking about the playbook that I'm trying to bring nobody will possibly listen, not just Republicans, but anybody who listen as we need a competition of opportunity. Look, we are still the same nation of ambitious riffraff that we always were. We believe in that radical equality of human dignity. I've got the data, most people believe in this absolutely and we have differ ways to make us agenda true and pure and good, and once we start fighting each other over that. No, I want more opportunity. We can, crisis. I've got the ear of a few and Stephen. I want more and more so. What is the playbook for the GNP four hundred and twenty twenty two of them, maybe two thousand and twenty four is well will two thousand and twenty two is different than twenty slash. Twenty four and the reason is because
Mid term is the first mid term for a new president, and so the way that Republicans, like any political party like the democratic and twenty eighteen, the weighted they're gonna play that is not binding, and not the Democrats and they'll probably pick up seats, that's just standard operating procedure and I would be shocked if they didn't take it regenerative. Twenty twenty four is different. It is going to depend on the character in the platform the person is running for President republican site when you talk to Republicans e their elected politicians or their strategists, who are on the fence about whether to continue to support Donald Trump or two support from Donald Trump? In the upcoming mid terms? How do you advise them? So it depends on where they are. But fundamentally you gotta ask yourself what you will fail force even one of the things it Whenever the happiest people as they can answer the question? Why are you alive for what are you willing to die? Ok, so, let's take it to the level of our treaty. What are we willing to fail for what?
we willing to have the microphone taken away from us, for, as I asked my political friends, you have a concept of what you think is right, it doesn't mean is what I think is right What are you willing to loosen election for one of my friends examined that you start showing some courage. You start saying things you think and then, once you cross the Rubicon its unbelievably liberating, you can be free You can be free What are your very best ideas for fighting contempt for, say, we're sitting next to each other on an airplane you, catch, my attention totally by saying. Yes, we live in this contempt cycle, but I can fix it fix me. we were gonna, landed, ten minutes number and stand up to the man like these centres, actually stand up to the man, the man this manipulating. You is the media that are telling you that you have to hate number two is start running toward contempt, because here's your opportunity to show our love and you don't give them an opportunities to show love. It mean
this is mission territory, man. Why is it that all these religious missionaries? Why do you think that their so happy all the time nobody's ever said human life. Oh good, missionaries on the porch and yet they're happy they're happy, because AIR actually bringing light where there's darkness, in their view, be a missionary and one of the ways to do If you're in this is number three John and says that if you're fighting with your spouse start carrying around five to one list, you want to say something hate for sarcastic or critical, you write it down in your list. Then you have to say five loving nice carrying things first and guess what you won't get to the sick thing, and so, if you want to say something sarcastic on Twitter about President Biden or Tromp, or so thing. You gotta say five positive things: you're gonna lose followers on twitter by the way to a contempt machine, but you're gonna be
different person and what that's gonna do is you're gonna start finding yourself confronting the sources of contempt with love with happiness with light and then finally, last but not least, you need to be more grateful if you're republican, you actually think that the big, threat to America as Democrats manner at your tree, you're, just not looking at the facts you kidding, you don't have enough grasp on foreign policy or, among other things, drinking cool aid from cable tv and your facebook friends or something and it's crazy, and you need to be more grateful for the fact that you live in a country where you can say the president. I states is an idiot and there's no knocking the night and know Jack booted thug, and God bless America. For that. That's Arthur Brooks. What are you Does the love and warm heartedness he prescribes stand a chance against the contempt machine,
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