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This. Is the police radio on demand the Glen back for a lot of talk about today, and I actually what I'm gonna go through another another time as you know, we had that professor on doktor height, from an? Why you, a guy who, if you read his book, He was very liberal, and then started doing some research about liberals and conservatives and realized crap, I'm I'm actually conservative. I think this is beginning to have around the country have got a great story about a guy who is used. Think would be as left as he could be here disagreed with the left on a few things and realized MIKE I do not want to be with these people there if their fascists they're they're, saying shut up
you don't have a right to say that an end he's experiencing a horrible point in his life just a few weeks ago, just a few months ago. He voted for Hillary Clinton. He now come out and said I am a conservative pretty remarkable story and turn on, and I think this is going to happen, and I want to tie that into Keith Ellison later on in the programme today. But- me give you a couple of stories now this according to Reuters, and so I dont If this is fake news or not but this is according to Reuters when when Pence was over in in Brussels. He was delivering the message from war in turn, in from Donald Trump that We are. We stand by we stand by NATO. And let me see if I can get the exact words
unwavering support for NATO and the EU and Trump will hold Russia accountable. Those are quotes from my pants. How At the same time, Steve Ban and according to Reuters, was meeting with the german ambassador to the United States in Washington, according to the sources from Reuters, what he said was that he viewed or the trouble Ministration views the EU as a flawed construct and face word conducting relations with Europe on a bilateral basis. They Looking for ways to address Europe's failure through bilateral trade treaties, the same as a free? U, K is doing now with all of its former trading partners, now the White House says: that's not what the conversation was. Reuters is standing by this story, but there is
There seems to be too powers developing to access hours, if you will the EU the pens matters Hayley foreign policy which is more trip, snow, then you have the Trump Bannon and Miller Foreign Policy, whose Miller. He's the. He was a sessions aid before he would. He got him with tromp. He was a he's very much aligned with Trump and and banning He was a guy they put out on tv a couple weeks ago to make the argument about how you know there were, lots of the millions of votes that were illegal and and that people were being bust across the New Hampshire border from Massachusetts it, it's and that even Corey Lewandowski, whose a new whose from New Hampshire I mean that's where they found Lewandowski and Lewandowski, even said he didn't think that that was happening in October. But I mean he was came. He was like the guy who came out and said I I will take. I will take them
physicians that every one of the media sang you can't take and we'll say them with a straight face on tv, and I will not back down who less good so here's here's where I have a difficult time, I believe the EU is a failed idea. It's. It's a it's, an idea that is going to tear Europe apart and already is tearing Europe apart. It didn't work. It is only planting the seeds of discontent because it is homogenized all of Europe and France wants to be France. The Netherlands wanna be the Netherlands. Germany wants to be Germany, Greece wants to be Greece and the poor nations wanted the free ride from Germany. But Germany is not going to give them a free ride for very much longer The whole system is corrupt and
The whole system is about to come. Undone, so I happen. To agree that we should, but than the leave the the water. The current is going dense the EU The problem is that you can't, have catastrophic and rapid change on that. These things have taken hundred years to put together and it's why the progressives worse successful The just take successful because they say a time take so one step at a time. So all of this stuff has been built in a progressive way, really based on lies. They'll tell you that you know. For instance, you can keep your doctor. If you want your doctor, you can keep your sovereignty even though we're gonna, be the EU then wants it in place. Then they just feel like it can't be undone.
It can be undone, but it's a giant game of gender and there are those people that want to burn it down to the ground, and I use that because that is that's Steve Barons words. Bird down to the ground. He believes He is a Leninist who wants to burn things down to the ground. That's never. The people who start revolutions, except for the American Revolution, are not the ones who end revolutions. You couple this story with sending mixed signals over to Europe that is freaking the Europeans out. Then you lose. What's happening in the latest election pole in France, Marie LE pen who you believe that she's not her that she's not her, was a grandfather. Father, her father TAT, her father was known for because he started this party, the national front. He was known for
lots of we already largely have you anything. You hold fast, wasn't real name of communists. And she intentionally and always a that type of which he is also taking it, for you know it's being called the altar right. It's not the ultra right now, free there there. She is for free, full, free abortions, Caution like three different things and of its in this. In this article, its young european, Ultra yeah, it's right, yeah, it is, it's not the rule, it is. We would understand the right on all its undoubted. It's a socialist right. Yes, I mean well with what we're we are starting to delve into it out here in Amerika, but yeah minute, you know, so she is, has taken great pains to mainstream the party by not doing those types of fish is the question. Of course people speculate on it. Whether she actually believes those things it just doesn't Diego or
is she. She said To be more moderate, certainly than her father, but there is a lot of room for Hell, yeah, there's a lot of you is a lot of space between moderate and her fathers. You know right Hitler. Then all bad kind of talk anyway, She is now leading the pole she was behind, but a week ago, she's now leading the poles by seven points to be the next president of France. Now he's gonna go into a run off if she wins this election sure going to run off because she urged Chile has twenty seven percent that seven points ahead of the next closest competitor. However Or when you taken put it in it to man, race and she is in the two men race, she's sick Sixteen points, fifty eight forty two so the way that rises, she'd Haim. So but she would need to convert. You know a little over eight percent of the people to her side of the argument to win that, so is. It seems like sixteen points,
big margin. Well, it's not that much and run off when you ll have to people in only two places to go now. What's have in previous elections, even when the national front is done well, every other party in France, of United as a coalition, to go against the national front and have beat them in the run off may it making and you to work. It may not this time she is getting. Backing from dug in an end, Do money men when he's a russian adviser to Putin who is believes in this traditionalist view of the world? We discuss them many times, but I mean it. You know that Gary he's got a lot of influence and a lot of money of money to be able to dump it. Oh god only knows what and certainly they ve, already seen signs of Russia trying to do the same thing that they tried to do here with getting in in the election they did get involved. They just didn't. I just didn't, make any fat lectured engines the election. So
you gotta keep an eye there, but there is also a couple of other things. Keith Ellison supporters are now warning of a fall out if he loses Saturday's election to be the chair of the Democratic National Committee. This is This is amazing to me that. He's even being considered, this will show you that the aggressive wing of the democratic, party is fully, in control. If, Keith Ellison wins and I will tell you that I believe that if he wins You are going to see a lot of Democrats shake out big Democrats shake out. And I dont necessarily mean those in politics. I mean those people
who are financing the Democrats. I mean those who vote Democrat. I think you see, Keith Ellison, we The chair of the Democratic Party that is, a different story, you're starting to see. I you know pattern. I we're talking about this earlier today. Remit It was one thousand fifty six. There are some of the four Sumner eighteen Fifty six that Charles Sumner was beaten. In the well of the Senate. Now he's a senator who said you view parties, don't stand for anything, it will stand for anything is very anti slavery. Very anti slavery is like you. Neither neither the whigs nor the Democrats are going to do anything about it and you damn rats in the south, you're sleeping with a horror of save slavery and because of that a guy came from the house from the south and took his keen, and
medium almost to death, not a single senator stopped him, not one. He almost beat him to death if he would have died if he couldn't crawled underneath his desk, so the guy couldn't get a real swing at his head anymore. He permanently scarred- and I mean mentally scarred- he was- was slow in speech. Then slow in thinking he was still had all of his faculties, but it it's scar in brains, guardian and it took three years before even came back to the Senate. That's that's how badly he was injured, okay and they The Senate never prosecuted the guy, never arrested the guy. He walked out never arrested him. Never a him. They cheered Mc Grath started wearing a chains with little Kane on it. That basically said save you screw with us Each to death, I mean it was a. It was a different world. But it was four years later that
perhaps Lincoln, was elected so eighteen. Fifty six there was no republican party movement. And four years later, Abraham Lincoln is elected that's in America. That was a smaller, but be had no social media had no electronic media has a town, criers still had people saying extra extra read all about it. In four years the nation change to a party they had never even heard of. I contend that there is something happening in both parties right now. That is really really good and and next, four to eight years, you're going to see that dramatic of a ship there's going to be a new party and it's going to put one of them out of business and I think it will put, I think it will put to the Republicans out of business, but the
Democrats will be going further too, the islamist side and further to the mark side That's gonna leave a lot of people that are questioning in saying I don't want to be a part of this at all and that's all right, the beginning to happen. If millennials and people like age people are starting to say. I don't know who these people are. Just like people in the right are saying. I don't know the Republicans are. There is a giant vacuum being built right now that I talk to you about, as we as we can today. Let me take a quick break until you are fond this half hour. It is lifelong chip based cried. Cards in the United States? forced called artists to change their tactics. Reason study says more than fifteen million Americans had personal and financial information stolen last year. That is up six
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in the same way we're not hearing from, Conservatives who are shocked by Donald Trump and some of the things that he does and the radicals he has around him nobody saying anything about that. It's because you're gonna get shouted down and. A lot of people are like what, but I like kind of the stuff. I like the direction that is headed, so do you know just just don't say anything, ok, They don't see that like their seeing right now in the Democrats, once you lose, who really is in charge and Democrat. When I read this thing from the Democrats, it'll blow your mind, but here's what's here's. What is happening. Here's what happened to the Democrats and at the beginning of this, this comes from Jonah Goldberg now, so is just about what happened with Milo and see pack. The decision to rescind the invitation was prompted by surfacing videos available long on the internet, which my
low praised, how do you say a pedestrian pedantry sex between an older man and prepare in boys as young as thirteen from the outside many on the right who do not consider themselves the party even heard of such a thing, the reason don't know what a pronounced word is because I've never heard of never heard of it right. It's the distinction, and I believe that, if it's supposed to be Post place very diverse and re so yet prepared. Ophelia is preview Besson, and this has praised as those who consider themselves. Part of the cult of mud opposed his invitation The disturbing thing is absent these videos, we would have lost the fight said Jonah Goldberg, Even our slap defends, the initial decision to invite you Annapolis. Monday morning Joe. He insisted the fat This he's got a voice that a lot of young people listen to a lot of young conservative people and Genesis we should,
asking the question why are so many young conservatives. Precisely because he enrages so many young liberals and that's part of the problem we are particularly tribal moment in american politics the enemy of my enemy is my ally. It's the most powerful argument around John too, the evolutionary psychologist, recently wrote that if he could explain one scientific concept of the public, it would be coalition of instinct in our natural habitat to be alone was to be vulnerable. You, if you had no coalition, you were nakedly and at the mercy of everyone else. So the instinct to belong to a coalition has urgency pre, existing and superseding any policy driven cases. For membership, this is why group believe is free to be so weird. We overlook the hypocrisy,
and the shortcomings within our own coalition, the desire to protect ourselves from our enemies, This fascinating it in the second? This is the Glen Back programme. Mercury, if so going over Jonah Goldberg editorial yesterday in the yellow times and he's talking about how, we are overlooking hip. Crises on our own side and I can t- and I want to share this with you, because I believe this is what happened to the democratic party. The democratic party is worse shape and the Republicans are by far they are. Fighting for the soul of the party? Are they going to be this marxist radical party?
or are they going to come back to the the centre, and I think that visor him gave them was such a distraction that no, but he cared about who was except for us who was advising him. You know who the guys that were really that that influenced his life and shaped him and who for the people, the bill airs and the burning Doorn and all those people that were and around this White House, and It gave us, I believe, a fall. This belief on who the average Democrat is in there because I think the average Democrat looked at Boracay The way many republicans are looking at Donald Trump, they may not like him? They may not, like all of those in but they're, not they're, not concern about Steve, Bannon they're, not concern they.
He's gonna be held in place. Liquors America, we're not gonna, go against you, open NATO, as this not gonna happen and we're gonna, be fine and he's moving the ball in our direction. That's the way, most Republicans look at him and there, like you, know neither things yes he's done some things I dont like, but he's, moving the ball in our direction and we're winning generally on the things that we want bright. Would you do that I think that's the way the many Democrats felt under Barack Obama except Bro. Obama did not have the harsh edges that Donald Trump does Iraq Obama didn't make the average Democrats feel uncomfortable. He as he was super slick. If you would have seen the people it's why they brought Michelle Obama at the very beginning back into the White House, you can't talk because she was making the average. Mc Grath, feel
uncomfortable her last speech on again campaign trail, the this time around was the read for she said you know we're gonna have to change. Our traditions. Are gonna have to change our thinking, our history, have to change everything and they were like. No. No, that's making Democrats worried. So They didn't see the marxist radical rot. Until now, and now there being shouted down. If they disagree with things like Keith, Alison. And they're saying. Wait a minute wait a minute You know I was really kind of more of a Hilary main stream supporter. If you will my one kind of that. I think those Reagan. Democrats, who still voted for Democrat. Are really in search of a place to go. Let me exe,
What happened to the Democrats by using joy, Goldberg words on what's happening to us right now today the right sees the left as enemies, and I should they vice versa. Milo. You have is a hero for many, because he fights political correctness and strands note. I have no idea really who This person is in certainly no idea how to pronounces nay, but we should probably settle on what I like you Yep anomalous: I've got an idea that I don't have that this idea in up you novelists right. I dont ass. You novelists were suddenly with the up and up we added that nets. Nay flamboyant provocateur, who wears is homosexuality, honest, leave and acts very much like a left wing performance artist. He gives the right and edgy cultural avatar to pit against the left At a time when entertainment and celebrity matter more than facts and arguments, he isn't entertaining celebrity until
recently. He was also a cell describe fellow traveller of the racist and anti semitic all right here, advance their world view, primarily from his perch as a senior editor, a bright Bart news. The webs I formally run by Steve Ban in a senior adviser to President Tromp, who also sought to make bright barred the platform for the all right, formerly. Yeah, yeah yeah? He formerly formerly sure early last year, all writers got attention for hurling bigotry at Trump skeptical journalist on social media, for instance by National Review colleague, David French was subjected to. Almost daily pictures of his adopted black daughter photoshopped in a gas chamber with it that's a uniform, clad, Donald Trump poised to push the button. It's horrible stuff that happened to David French, family. Yep Annapolis defence of all of this was that it was funny and rebellious quote: just
the kids are the sixty shock, their parents with promiscuity, long hair and rock and roll. So too, Who do the alt right? Young mean brigades shock, older generations, with holocaust jokes, and plan humor it was a way for he and his colleagues. It was he a colleague wrote for bright barred, undeniably ex hysterical, well, rights jog Milburgh. I can deny that car conservatives defend Milo, who admits he's, not a conservative much the same way that event. The Democrats defended the Anti semitic radio priest, Charles Coglan. As long as he supported the new deal as Christ's deal conserving, cling to rationalizations to defend their champion, they say he distance himself from the all right. He did cynically Only after daddy his term for Donald Trump was elected. They credit
is claimed that he can say anti semitic things because his grandmother was allegedly jewish can say races things because he sleeps with black men. These the kinds of arguments of coalition, except when it is lost its moral mornings and cares only about winning free suppression was never the issue. If it were, he wouldn t be at sea pack and bright barred expressing The case for, evil failure. You know what that is a pair. Conservatives still draw the line there, but not Anti Semitism or racism the tent. Sad to say is still enough for that That's Jonah Goldberg yesterday I feel here is that There are a lot of conservatives right now, at least who are doing it Donald Trump and saying I buy I'm pretty okay, with the direction of where he's going
bad has happened. Would you agree? We disagree with some of his appointment, but so far, ok right judgments good, there's been some goods Vince a The average person feels that way on the left, because we are falling to deaf ears on the faintly only things that the left is hearing and the law If this hearing race, this anti semitic, there, looking at the people surrounding Donald Trump Basic the same thing, but we did when we, Fox. We look advance Jones. Erlooking President Obama, we're looking to we're. Looking at George Soros, we were looking at the people behind. The man now that was partner for us back then, because its who you put in the office around you and there were some mainstream people around Donald Trump. I mean around Barack Obama that would that of course,
the left was a they're. Not all radicals, we did a good job of washing those radicals clean like Van Jones. Now he was a former communist he's, not real Leah Communist. He never went to prison. He went to jail, ok,. They did everything they could to whitewash him to make their own. Constituency feel good because Barack Obama, was doing the things that were making them happy but we were saying at the time guys you can't give him this much power. You can't do this, don't turn a blind eye now that Barack Obama is gone. Its left, a vacuum of joy, two was around him. Hilary Clinton and the blue dog Democrat is gone. Dog Democrat. It no longer exists. There. Ray Clinton's no longer exist. So who are you left with you?
left with Marxists and radicals. And now the Democratic Democratic Party is seeing a man. This is wait, hold it and their seeing not all of them, but for seeing what we saw this, nothing's going to happen with the Republican Party, I think there is going to be a a from both of those parties- and It happened in eighteen. Fifty four is going to happen again and it's going to be applied. Pretty of common sense and common values. Rights, the people who actually on both sides say no. We don't want to spy on our neighbours. No, you don't have a right to spy on me. No Eve traditional values, meaning the mare reckon values which is the bill of rights, the people who actually on both sides say. No, we don't want to spy on our neighbours, no. You don't have a right to spy on me, no stay out my bedroom.
Stay out of my stay out of my pants in my bathroom stall. Stay out of my life you don't have a right to tell me who I can marry and you don't have a right to tell me what my priest or my pet. Dunkin say from the pulpit right to do that. Leave alone, those traditional values that are enshrined in the bill of rights. I think and I could be wrong- I may be being too optimistic, but I think that there is coming Movement, of the bill of rights- and it's not Go to be taken by the libertarians, the libertarians. The libertarians Oh, do enough for this moral foundation. Theory that we talked about I'd like to take. You guys have to take this test. This,
world foundations theory that we talked about was at last this week last week last week lie last week, we had Jonathan height on he's a professor at and why you fuck, he was liberal, started doing research and realized holy cow. I'm conservative and, I think That is exactly the point when you start actually looking beyond the labour and he has devised the way to look beyond the labels and its the moral foundation. Theory and when you see that the average conservative. Actually has five moral foundations, but we, we concentrate on three while them asked only has to, and they we concentrate on those two and unfortunately The three we concentrate on don't include those do and,
We would concentrate on those two. We could bring them along. And because libertarians don't have that moral foundation the theory they dont have any really of those five, and I'm talking about as a party that Why they fell on deaf ears? That's why they Couldn't get anybody from the right. You couldn't get anybody from the left because there's bringing to an end these space and empty auditorium, where there's just not enough people. What they have is the bill of rights. They don't have the moral foundations And believe it or not a different, I can't even say that not what we claim as aim as a morality party. Today, if I said that you, Think well, that's a church going
God, rearing, red, white and blue, Yellow served in the military. Not that not that think big foundational morals, think of that Bill of rights. Think of compassion- those, you're scored by common sense are going to become fashionable again, I'm convinced of it. Now that simply safe about the new simply safe security camera this the camera that connects to the sensors in your alarm system? It's all due to this. What I love about, simply save you who you order online there's no becoming to your house and Little Buddhism. In I mean I'm telling if you ve ever had one of these guys come to your house and talk to you about alarm system, you, You really would set yourself on fire if, if that would force them, go outside to get a bucket of water.
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Please safe back dotcom. Go there now, simply safe back dotcom drivel, eight, seventy seven back, Glenn Back Programming, welcome to the programme. Did anybody see Milo yesterday actually felt bad for him? I did not. I, MR is wonderful. Press conference was felt that for I don't know, I guess I just don't revel in people's demise mean there were alot of people that were online both were both sides me. If I'm hobby Local authorities are making money, I'm sure I'm not worried about his his financial future. At least I don't know maybe he'd. Maybe he really was going for this like mainstream acceptance, but an up there hasn't been a gig. As far as I understand it, I think he's we'll go somewhere started something and then make lots of money. I'm sure
then you know it's amazing is tat. Is not conservative. I mean in his own words, he's not a conservative and how many conservatives are the feed like he's on the team- and I think it's only because he fights political correctness, and you know an end. That's a good thing to do, just he. You know. He said the indefensible theirs there's no way you can defend, it had a failure. He did that before. As you pointed out, I know anyone I know you're joking about squat. Him quote joking, about putting little kids and of ends here. Harassed Ben Shapiro
His son he's in all sorts of all races, Billina and Anti semitic, things that are not visible or this. This is the Glen Back Programme here This is the police radio, on demand, so there was a a ranking of the president's. By all of these. You know who you toity historians, who was the greatest president: Abraham Lincoln George Washington, Franklin, Roosevelt Theodore, Roosevelt Dwight eyes at our Harry S, Truman Then Thomas Jefferson,
Kennedy Ronald Reagan. Johnson, Woodrow, Wilson, Barack Obama, notice anything about this list. The first, while most of them are from the twentieth century, so it shows their real world view and then, if it has the bulk of the progressive president, or up at the top, the worst president is James Buchanan. We thought we would bring in a history. Professor grub sit professor Paul Congo, a good friend of the programme, he wrote the book, the Communists, the untold story of Barack Obama's mentor here, but a story about this c span ranking in the american spectator. We want to him right now.
The position of entertainment and didn't lightened- and this is the Glen or Gang- joins us now? He was also a part. He was one of the guys who voted. In this survey from C span and maybe he can shed some light on a couple of things like present, Obama was number twelve about how that have all how gonna happen they go, and why are we all laughing radio? No guy? I think That was now frankly, the most ridiculous
think about it. I expected the top ten, the shake out kind of as it did, but to put Obama. Twelve, I mean look, I bud. Ivy. I didn't know where he was going and this is the first time that he's Ray C span. Did this in two thousand two thousand nine and two thousand seventeen by the way C span really is fair and that they do a better job at this than other rankers have other survey groups, but I have to get to have a bomb. I mean number twelve, I don't see how, even if your liberal, I don't see how you come up with that, and I with people probably have to look at the ten different categories that we were given to rank people and really gland Ecevit gets do that. There's two things are you're doing. Surveys like this one who participate in to what are the criteria right and in
So if one of the criteria is something like vision, right and vision and agenda effectiveness in implementing your vision and agenda, well, then, as much as you and I hate a Woodrow Wilson, now he is very effective rights matter, L B, Joe He was, you know the damned effective then and in putting together his vision, an agenda and his relations with Congress. Well great, they gave me We think they want it rightly want it. So wasn't so was that one of the vision in agenda was. That was that it was your vision and agenda was one of the criteria yeah yeah another was see rate relations with Congress, cries leadership, international relations, administrative skills, performance within contacts of times, public persuasion- I mean here again public pursue
isn't as much as we don't like. If they are, I think I gotta give up the are ten unfamiliar bills, wage right so but but but where do you see? You give Obama ten in those categories right. No public persuasion. I either he had a ten. You think I hear that he had a most of his presidency. He had approval rating in the load. Amid forties, I mean it wasn't my God, everything done! That's how We do that. He had eyes sixty seat majority, which he lost and the to jam through Obamacare care. With that I mean mulatto, the stuff tat he did came very early in his presidency. I mean Paul. You can meet his offer. Look at his look. It is that's well he was doing it. Look at his approval writing at the end of his presidency. Well, if it is, it finally went over fifty at the end of his presidency for the lot, but for the longest time my master com forty per cent? President em, you looked at him a gallop, he was in the low forties.
And when he was re elected in twenty twelve- and this is an amazing statistic- he's the only president, ever reelected, with a lower total number of votes, a lower percentage, avowed, lower percentage margin over his opponent, one less states, he got less electoral college votes, he didn't treat any new constituent. She's right. There were no Obama. Republicans like there were Reagan Democrats, we really need. I guess he beat Romney soundly, but not by much was a two or three percent. So I never I some more as a great divide. Her I didn't see him is as a public persuade her I mean, have the are one: yeah, sure, right, uneasily and and and and another category crisis leadership did Obama even have a crisis to lead me would know his cuban missile crisis right and then Gosling and went upstairs the any went upstairs.
He was horrible in crisis. That's right it anyway. We have hard data on this. In fact, our member you guys at the blaze, reported this three or four years ago. I linked to it in this article, the number of national security and intelligence breathings that Obama mess in his first term was literally unprecedented. I mean he attended something like a third of them, so worker the crisis leader, is that end and another categories: administrative skills, how to give a guy a ten on administrative skills which a lot of these rankers must have the Vienna up number twelve on this list when the guide and even attend a lot of these briefings, another category economic management. I know the guy had the worst eight years or youth, but the worse GDP growth during his presidency. Whether too, for your presidency re your presidency of anything
since world war, two. I think it was one point: five percent, with his average GDP growth over eight years. Younger was three point: three million heralded amass Paul. You know and that's why I'm sure a lot of them did give him tens. On that note, I bet they did. They said in a voice fraud. Everything up air probably did that and if you look at the numbers on GDP his final year, he was a one point, six percent. So that's eight years after it is supposedly inherited this mess from Bush, so that eight years it turn around to bite by the eight year is not over two point: zero yoke, two point: zero per dont growth, or something like that. Yet so again I don't know I don't know how he got into added this date. They Serbia, ninety one of us, it I'm counting about fifteen to twenty, but I think we're conservatives,
and I think we probably Gordon pretty low. I know I did so I'm guessing for him, then, up at twelve, there must have been a lot of people who just went through and checked at ten on every single box. Otherwise we might have ended up rabies I don't like it and watching too that there was a brass conservative, Libya. Let me ask you this listener. Woodrow Wilson, forcing it he was number six in two thousand and two thousand. Ninety was nine and now he's number eleven what's happening there. Yet I heard patents to discuss mad on, I think it was Monday show at its true. He continues to go down, as he should. Obviously, an resolution on somebody on some of these rights vision setting an agenda again as much as I hate the vision and the agenda Wilson accomplished all on my brother. Yeah, probably have to give him a ten on that, but the one area where you think he got really hurt to these categories. But I like one is moral authority.
And and the other is pursued equal justice for all, and I think, even if you're a liberal and you now look at what Wilson did on race alone, you you ve, got to bring him that you ve gotta, give em a really low score. Definitely authority and pursued equal justice. I have to tell you what brought him downright, but I have to tell you what has happened in the last seventeen years that has brought him awareness earlier. I think you're wearily danish racism. I mean you know I'd I'd. I'd like to take justice mentioned. Should you should degraded Woodrow Wilson? Finally, getting his just do, can I asked my think you should yeah I really do I mean really is its guys, like you and your show. You now have a situation where there are students at Princeton that our protests thing we have a programme named after Woodrow Wilson. What I've never seen that twenty years ago is for Europe Paul. What are you
do you think of America's gay men and gay president gingerly cannon you're right. I heard you discuss us first of all to you by the fact that he was gay. I mean we're waiting. I just I just so. You know James View Cannon. Two thousand was forty one two thousand and nine. He was forty two and now he's forty three he's been dead. Last, that's not changing right. I don't everything about James Buchanan and these guys you're driving me that he's he's gay he brought us into war civil war at. Why he's last, I think it's is, is several preferred. No, I don't think so either, but anything about him other than he was the president before Lincoln, and and that's it was, he was he gable in your mind. If this right, I don't know, but if he was, we have to put him in the top hat and otherwise homer toys
its interests examined, or is a legitimate case to be made that we made women chocolate. His some historians actually believe he was gay, but I mean you think about it. We talk about the device, goodness of our society today, and it is extreme in many ways. We look at this. His look at this list from C span. You voted on Paul that the guy who who ended the civil war right is never one The guy who led us into the civil war is last me worth he'll divisiveness, we ve seen it was much worse and our history. On that occasion, we have to remember that this right and any Udo Glenn also set to that. If you just look at the nineteenth century, president settled If there's any water than Lincoln may be used in the top, ten was in my view, a lot of that is probably frankly that a lot of historians pole, don't even know don't know well a lot of the nineteenth century guys I don't. I don't know a lot of nineteenth century, but also of if there's another bias in this Paul in a year. If I could be so bold, I might encourage yoga
as even consider doing your own survey on us that the way the criteria set up it, it's sort of it favours president's to use the exact power right who, who use the executive action? I'd love to see a survey that that has categories like faithfulness to the constitution: COD, rather than expanded government power of cod regulations, minimized, executive orders upheld or or gave wasted it to the vision of the american founders, something that would be more a of a conservative less with with concern. It is doing the right thing and if you do that, you're suddenly gonna see people like College and Harding probably jumped your thirty point when we put this, what are we put this? Do you wanna, put this together pollen and then will will publish
I mean, I think, that that would be fascinating. You wanna put that together. If not a bad idea, I think maybe we should What was your idea of it? What do you know? It was your idea of not a bad idea. When will you just gave you some is allowed to discredit our ideal? I know I'm just saying it was your idea would all, but was a pretty good idea. I just want you guys, do the work. I threw a right back in your place. I participated. Do the work with the interests of that process, because I mean, I think, if you get the rain, had a glorious Coolidge would be towards the top yet Coolidge College. Twenty seven is insane Paul tweets college. Twenty seven cannot breezy, it's crazy. Absolutely great! I mean there's really nothing bad that but under Coolidge right. I mean a lot a lot of these cases. It's why Eisenhower gets ranks so well. Is it the fit? These were very tranquil, peaceful time amid the start of the cold war, and otherwise,
Billy chaotic situation and I just sort of kept the lid on. I would want it, but I want to ask, this about Eisenhower as a historian. I think, the Eisenhower his his. What what is it the speech you know the industrial complex though Thou cobbler yeah, I think, that is the bravest possibly last. Truly honest, speed a president has given where was just radically honest about the constitution and broke. All of the rules that you just wouldn't break today. Would you agree without or not oh yeah. I were. I would add that it was prophetic, of course, and also in your talking about moral authority, you think about the moral, the thought the guy, who was the Supreme Outline Commander, NATO
Am I the invasion of Normandy, the World war? Two zero turn, president making that speech I mean if anybody could George George Mcgovern couldn't have warned about the military industrial complex, and I could it in Eisenhower. You just as Woodrow Wilson has continued to drop down on this list. I'd have to look at two thousand and two thousand nine. Am I have in front of me Europe, but I'm lower Ike he's only continued move out, yet his ease up, but that was one of the big moves in the top worries and he's number five ganglia it was nine hate, and now five and Reagan is up. Eleven. Ten, nine, yes, Reagan is creeping up, not one person ahead of Reagan. Kennedy I mean I gave Kennedy pretty good scores, but the guy wasn't even president for three years, I mean the easier there there's their July, but you point Kennedy ahead of Reagan or I think, even in the top ten animal
it seems like a cause. You're almost like bridge with with Kennedy Europe almost. I think people project a great presidency upon it. Like maybe we're talking about this is like Nirvana, while they would? I had ten greatest albums after if Cure Kurt Cobain didn't die while you can't who that he didn't do those things. I think people have such. We know such a memory of that tragedy, that they project that he was a great president for two terms when he wasn't, like if you gonna do that, then you need to put Harrison right, never won on the list. I always like that. I don't think I'm in great. Why do people like in in you know your history world? Why do people like Andrew Jackson, he was a bad Guy raised get go, I mean he figured that, whereas the others were, he is pretty high. He's above prettier he's above Calvin Coolidge above John Adams he's it the eighty down from thirteen yeah yeah
yeah, but he had been hired, no question about that and if I could just pick up on on stews point, though about Kennedy, I think part of what's going on with Kennedy one he was effectively martyred right. So you ve got is really positive view are also. If you look at the people in the survey, they are really accomplished. Presidential scholars, who, frankly I'll be blunt by the most Somerset The older and Kennedy was probably their first president right who's, the guy that they were so excited about that they were so hopeful accounts of commitments made. That's right at I love that he cut taxes. He wasn't it. Communists, who did a great job with the other than missile crisis, bad job at the bay of pigs, but even then, how do you put him? A number eight weight behind Jefferson. Out of Reagan. All I've gotta I've gotta run, but it's always go to talk to you. Have you again gives you just always fascinating talk to? Thank you so much now. Thank you.
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black triumphs that nobody knows. Nobody knows. I mean that are really really good, that take away a lot of this garbage that we're dealing we have now. If we would just treat teach true history and balanced history, we look at black history coming up now. The black founders of our nation. Three of our cereal coming up back programmes. The Beck programme, its fairly easy to love your country when everything is going well and when you are enjoying all the blessings of liberty and opportunity, it becomes a little more difficult to love it enough to volunteer to put every including your very life on the line for it, it's almost unimaginable to love
your country enough to volunteer to put your life on the line after you began your life in that country as a whole as someone else's property, as incur will, it is to believe Peter Salem was a man who loved this country that much He was born in slavery in framing him Massachusetts in seventeen. Fifty two Jeremiah Bell Nab there on the outskirts of Boston, it is belief in and love for this country and independence grew Peter. Eventually sold in the early seventeen. Seventy eight to Lawson Buckminster. There was much people and disagreement between Britain and the colonists in the seventeen Seventys, the bridge Oppression had grown exponentially over the years, imposing grievous taxes on America, stopping trade with other nations, hampering business growth and the colonies to protect british industries. Pressing protest in much more until following the stamp the towns and act in the tea
in others, many colonists found continued british occupation to be intolerable. Finally, in seventeen. Seventy three, a group of patriots as the sons of liberty and By Samuel Adams, rest is Indians, boarded three British EAST the accompanying ships carrying Argos, full of tea and in protest of the It is taxes on anti dumping, the ninety two thousand pounds of tea in the Boston Harbour the protests. Stop the EAST India Company around one million dollars in today's money. Actions like this, ignited the fire in the bellies of thousands of patriots living in the colony one of those patriots. Was a Framingham slave, Peter Salem, saying expressed a desire to the man whom he had been sold to Lawson Buckminster, who had by now
become a major in the continental army to join the militia and fight against the british occupation, buckminster was moved by Salem devotion to the country and granted him his freedom Salem, immediately joined the Massachusetts minute. Men then trained and waited on for seventeen, seventeen. Seventy five about seven hundred british army regulars in Boston under Lieutenant Colonel Francis Smith, we're good and secret orders to capture and destroy rebel military supplies reported stored at the Massachusetts militia at Concord proving effective at gathering intelligence had discovered the british plans weeks before and move more, Their supplies, they also mobilise the local militias to be ready when the British arrived one of these way. For the british Army and Lexington was none other than a former slave Peter Salem, the first shots heard around the world were fired.
Ass, the sun was rising at Lexington Salem, and best of the outnumbered in out man, militiamen retreated to Concord, broke up into seven groups of one hundred each to search for the weapons. Meanwhile, more militiamen, joined the fight and about four hundred of them engage one hundred british at the North Bridge in Concord. There were casualties on both sides and the British began a strategic retreat back to Boston being attacked in bits, These are all the way back to Charlestown Peter Salem wasn't done with a service to the country, on June seventeen, seventeen, seventy five Salem was part of the battle at Bunker Hill. When the british forces, under the command of major pit cairn charging a breeds hill towards the colonial fortification, major pit Karen mandate that the colonialist Surrender Peterson aimed fired and answered
majors demand with a single shot from his musket that killed him. In the case I followed the Americans were able to take the field. The British fought back Heatedly and eventually the american militia ran out of ammunition and the British took the hill. However, because misconduct conduct fellow soldiers took up a collection for him following his action Bunker Hill later Peter Salem, honored, by a visit to meet General George Washington seventeen, seventy seven Salem served at the battle of Saratoga, where the american forces rooted in defeated the british army it began, one of the most decisive battles of the revolutionary war. After them, One of our great founding patriots who also happen to be black and a former slave Peter sailor A war hero lived. His life in Massachusetts as a cane weaver. He is those founders that seems to have been erased from history. Would it make it did
in the lives of young African Americans to know about the incredible bravery and heroism of this former slave to know, how much he loved and valued this country and the freedom it did provide. Sadly, you're Salem died in a public poorhouse in eighteen. Sixteen at the age of sixty six but he was honoured by the citizens of Framingham when they buried him at the old, burying ground even his grave sight was isolated from others, it's still was unheard of to bury an african american and former slave in that spot. It was their way of being tribute obvious american patriot and hero years after his death the towns people also provided his grave with a gravestone in eighteen. Eighty, two, The town of Framingham went further, placing a memorial stone over Salem Graveside, the inscription States, Peter Salem, a soldier of the revolution
died August 16th, one thousand eight hundred and sixteen Concord Bunker Hill, Saratoga erected by the town, one thousand eight hundred and eighty in a time when blacks, we're not afforded this kind of respect and admiration. One of our truly great black. Oregon founders Peter Sailor was when back this combat programme. So I want to share with you here in a second something I just read from SAM Old man he's a Silicon Valley guy. He said after the I decided to go. Try to talk to a hundred from voters from around the country went to the middle of the country middle of the state and talked many online. This was Surprisingly interesting and a helpful experience. I highly recommended with three exceptions. I found something too like about everyone. I talked to the way strongly disagreed with many things that people said that
It should not surprise me, given the voting data, I was definitely surprised by the diversity of the people I spoke to. I didn't expect the talks, so many Muslims Mexicans black people and women in the course of this project? most every one was likeable and I was and was willing to talk to me, but none of them, want me to use their names even bull from very red states were worried about getting targeted by those people in Silicon Valley. If I, if they knew, I voted for him, person here in Silicon Valley even asked me to sign a confidentiality agreement before she would even talk to me as she was worried. She would lose her job if the p at her company knew she was a trot, strong, trumps a border and, I said, come on, marries wants and what do you think that That is an amazing that we are. We are sitting here we're seeing the intolerance, etc of he tolerant right but there's That is really interesting. Things that came out of this personal survey that SAM did will share with it coming up a second liberty safe. How
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he's antiabortion yeah yadda, let's see what don't you Like about buy what do what this is really interesting, what do you think about the lapse response to dull drum? So far, you need to give us an opportunity to admit that we may have been wrong without saying. Were bad people. I'm already thinking, beginning to think I may have made a mistake, but I feel ostracised from many in my community. That's one. Left is more on than the right this a map. He says in a lot of the conversations with real animosity. Otherwise pleasant conversations. It's true. Stop calling us races, stop calling us idiots, we're not list! to us. When we try to tell you why we art, oh and stop making fun of us. Love to see the one tenth of the outrage about the state of our lives.
You seem to have for Muslims in another country? You have no idea what our lives are like in the middle of the country so tired of hearing about white privilege, I'm white but late way, less privileged than a black person from your world. I have no, my life will get any better, I'm tired of feeling, silenced and demonized. We have mostly the same goals but different opinions on how to get there maybe I'm wrong, maybe you're wrong, but enough of calling all of us the devil. For wanting to try Trump, I hate Hilary. I think she wants to destroy the country, but I dont demonize her supporters, I'm an that they're. So outraged now but we're never outraged over an existing terrible system. The attacks begins? Trump, have taught me something about myself. I have defended him and said things that I really dont believe or support, because I was put in a defensive position pro,
testers may push many people in this direction, but it is, ultimately our responsibility and it A stall stop I liked it the demonization of trump. By calling him and his supporters Nazis Clan white, supremacist, fascist it's very well in entrenching Trump supporters to his side. These are too circa, our counter factual, in my opinion, and very helpful to Donald Trump. So far, this election is driven our nation apart. I see most of the device of this coming from the left. Shame on them! I don't. Quite as bad as the during the Nixon era, but a truly headed in that direction. I couldn't speak by parents during that time, because the delight of the political division would intrude this. Giving the holiday season we were, as close as I felt too that in the end, in forty years, we are increasingly polarized doesn't seem to be strictly generational. Although that exists, there is in
his coat West Coast, rural verses, urban racial engender division forming it has potential of being devastating the amount of violent attacks and economic attacks perpetrated by the laughter troublesome. My wife and I recently moved from the Bay area. I would expect your place that was welcoming and welcoming a welcoming meritocracy of ideas, but instead we found a place where everyone constantly watches everyone else for thought crime Silicon Valley is incredibly unwelcoming to alternative points of view. Curiosity, if it's sincere, is the very great rare exception to this rule there's something hill, hypocritical about the left, saying that they, are the United not diviners that they are? inclusive and then excluding half the population, comments on intelligence and relevance in the modern world? I hope
people, especially in the media, read this and they can read this dispassionately because That is the way many Americans feel. Their tired of being called names, their tired of being outsiders, their tired of not being heard not being listened to mocked ridiculed the tired of it. And they see the hypocrisy and if the press, would just read this blog from salmon and understand just these things they chance of healing themselves. And healing the nation. They have a chance, but they have to recognise their role. Quite honestly, in reverse we. He can't polarize ourselves to the p
on the left. The If, if everybody's calling you a Nazi. Make sure you're not calling them a communist, a Marxist, because I thought what what I'm seeing at least, is there a huge swath in the middle of both Democrat. Ten Republicans. That are not authoritarian on either side thou some leaders might be on the fringes of both the right and the left, but the vast majority. They are not authoritarian, there are those in this country both left and right, that have authoritarian leanings that just want. Somebody strong enough to make it stop strong, I have to give them the stuff that they want strong enough to make they are problems go away, but I don't know that's the average person,
and its Thou wert these moments, where you could actually make headway. If, because it's difficult resemble George W Bush is President lot of liberals said a lot of things about executive power. Did that didn't make any impact right because they all shut up under Barack Obama, Mobile, suddenly loved executive power now its trump again, and they're all exempts against executive power. Similarly, you know in the Bush administration there are many people who did not speak out loud, lovely enough about big government. You know there were instances where, where that did happen, and it was really positive, but, like where there are a lot of voices they stood up against. You know earning a giant new entitlement that Bush started. Medicare party answer was now William, relatively few. It's important of Santa If those things now because now is the time. You have credibility when you're you're out of power you're. Just then you're too Siena's opposite with you complain about it like they are now,
when you complain about it, when their guys in power they'll say will where were you when Donald Trump, what we are saying to them. Now, where were you with Barack Obama? That's why it is important for you to stand on principle now: were. This- is the police radio on demand? and to help them do the global progress. We want our world. Take you through something that I would urge you to take it home Anne and read: the moral foundation? Theory It is a theory that we had the guy who came up with it from and why you It was on last week,
he's a piece of professor it and why you thought he was liberal started doing this research and realized? You know not so much and it because of this theory that he is come up with called the moral foundation theory. What is it drives us. He says: there's five five moral principles we all share the right has all five, but they really focus on three and those three moral principles are the ones the left doesn't have the left. Only has to of the five moral principles and they we focus on there too. We focus on the other three and that's why we're talking over each other, and if we Just connect on these moral principles we'll be able to heal the nation.
Actually believe in this theory a great deal, and you can t the survey defined where you stand. With the left with the right. Do you share all five principles yourself, and we go there beginning right now, the fusion of entertainment and didn't might in this is the gleam. Ok, so I want you to go to you happen to be at work or near a computer, go to your mortals dot, org and take this with us.
The moral foundation theory is this really brilliant theory on. On. Why we're talking over each other, for instance, justice. Is a is a theory, There is one of the moral foundations we have as conservatives justice but it is is defined slightly different with the left in there. Is fairness. Now we, have We avoid the word fairness because we believe that, fairness. The way it is being interpreted means that Life is fair that everything is fair. We don't believe that We don't believe life is fair You know you could work hard. You could be the best human be job.
What a life was not fair to job. But life in the end was just for job right in it. The difference between a we talk about equality of opportunity versus equality about outcome, It's kind of that way with fairness in this, we both both sides- liberals conservatives, both I agree that fairness is important. The issue is what how do we see How do we see left sees fairness, as everyone gets everything equal, we see furnaces. Everyone has an opportunity to to do what they might be able to achieve this is these first two fairness and injustice and then the the other one is care you know do you? Will you care for other people? Other things you know aunt em all. You know A homeless person Do you
do you see the humanity around you in care? Now I contend. We all have that and his research shows conservatives have just as much as liberals. We, Just don't talk about it in the same way now there are three other principles the only conservatives have, generally speaking, conservatives have and it is those three that set us apart. The fact that we avoid things. Like fairness,. And they get this bleeding heart because they about justice and fairness and and they'll care for these poor sick fill in the blank, and we don't talk about it generally speaking, we just do it. We lose because they capture the heart. Then what we do is we concentrate on the three other principles in one of these is is loyalty
loyalty goes to patriotism. Now I can Ten that they have loyalty as well- but their loyalty is more of an international loyalty and they they avoid things like patriotism. That's why they they see us it's why? Quite honestly, when you go to a rally. You will see a lot of people in the tea party there dressed and red white or blue and you go to a leftist rally and you don't see people wearing the stars and stripes you know, sure, tour necktie or anything else? They don't see it the same way. Loyalty goes into patriotism, so slow take this list, this survey when deciding whether something is right or wrong to what x, and are the following, considers consider. Is considerations relevant to your thinking,
when deciding if something is right or wrong How relevant? Is it whether or not somebody has showed a lack of loyalty. And the scale is not at all relevant to extremely relevant, with several options of between. Myspace or expose the to I say somewhat relevant amendments are not. Somebody did something to betray his or her group. You said a somewhat relevant while you're, because I don't know what I'm deciding you're on. The second question on the first question is whether they showed a lack of loyalty, don't even see that one Are you not only are these different? They add of order, potentially slim ivy infusing. That's too bad, is my first question is whether not somebody did something to betray his or her group at second. For me, I don't even have that. One on the strangest have one of us here just how many of us no one's gonna right here we go whether it s, someone showed a lack of loyalty. How would you do that?
Glenn. I say so I say somewhat somewhat relevant, some relevant. I mean you know, depending on what I'm trying to decide. You know if they were the train, their group, but they were trying to get the truth out like Snowden. With its relevance that some that relatively irrelevant yeah right, that's were I think I would land and then I could go to very relevant. But I was that's not it. Overwhelmed. The principle and write like so. The principle is much more important than loyalty to me right. However, there is an aspect of loyalty that that is a function now. This is where This is where we go with where we go wrong on the show. Quite honestly, talking to the professor. Where we go wrong is, for instance, in loyalty We were seen this show with seem a scene as disloyal the somehow
and if we didn't, because we wouldn't folly IRAN would trump and was though loyalty loyal to who, though I mean dislike the tribe, remember his idea is his. This theory is that the tribe is in Orton. It goes back to ancient men when you were by yourself you, you were dead you had to have a tribe tribes became very important and it's it's in our dna ends. Oh, you have to be a part of a tribe and When you're, not when you are seen as somebody who breaks the rules of the tribe, generally speaking the knee jerk reaction and mainly for conservatives, is to say you're disloyal. Now disagree with him when he says mainly for conservatives, because that happens. That happens with gay organizations, black groups you're sure you're, all time
you sold out the girl, I'm sorry, but the Democrats day loyal to each other each a matter of no matter what we have endeavoured to that, Dr. Yet we generally had a loyalty to the constitution and to the count but that is changing, But now are our loyalty is to our tribe the meagre, for example, this theme lately, the Freedom caucus is a group of people in First, that we like Maria they generally are, would the people standing up for actual principle most of the time their very there. The basically that's the best and so they have something in there. I don't charter the arrangement in which it is the most serious attacks cut bill coming on our is the freedom Kok is going to support that. That is not the, vote internally, and if, if I remember right, if eighty percent of the people in the Freedom caucus agree on to go which way whatever whether gonna go, then every one votes that way
so if you are in the freedom Caucus- and you say you know what I don't like this tax proposal, but eighty four, the Freedom caucus agrees with it. You're supposed to vote with the other people. Would you what our stand that arrangement. I would not I would not be able to announce ain't gonna work and if they ve done more to advance Swell Armenia and the arguments hears us here. I would think that politics is built on compromise. It just depends on how far you're willing to compromise right announcing. I would be able to do that. I might be whale willing to compromise with the freedom caucus, but I would be have a hard time and I dont know it after the really look at because when it came to that time, we're running your principles, you felt was being violated, because eighty percent of your close colleagues decided to go one way. I would not be able to do it and which makes you have a worthless member of that cock, its rapid just yourself. So here's the thing it was loyalty becomes very, very important when you feel your group is being under. It is under attack and so people felt that Hillary Clinton was attacking
the Democrats were attacking, and it was just a continuous attack since Barack by and they wanted it to stop and sold loyalty to the group, became more important than the loyalty to the principles. Ok agreed, That's happening now, both sides. Ok This is kind of a similar question whether or not someone did something to betray his or her group. Do you think that's extremely relevant you're thinking, not at all railway, or he would your she did. Something that betrayed there grew his group yeah, I think. That's again, I would say it somewhat relevant to very relevant ass. Well, but what has to be extremely relevant extremely relevant to me. It depends again on what you're talking about, but they're, not looking for new ones here, Again I go to Edward Snowden. All these are going to demand the I know with you pick whatever stew
but why are we doing you? Are we doing Pat what which one or we let stew to This debate is extremely relevant. What did you say for the loyalty? One path? Somewhat relish somewhat relevant night. Did you do, whether or not someone did something disgusting so with an interest in question here, that's a hard won out. I was just looking but that I would call it very rebel relevant, really very relevant is the second highest extremely, is really willing to discuss. Why Because, despite sitting is usually wrong. Re if you're decide whether somebody did something right or wrong. Discuss. Usually isn't right here. Do does depend on your on you're doing. Definition of disgusting, but I would put it gusting in blasphemous and
You know I would do a disgusting is disgusting if we're using it as a literal word and trying to decipher right, neuron disgusting would take on more and more meaning Ok, whether or not someone was denied his or her rights and I don't think that's actually more strongly. What's the malaria extremely relevant zoning, I dont think about that is, is- is keeping an open only to genders and will need to touch them we're talking about reality, because the very good very gender normative scatteringly realm. Yes, thank other, whether or not Some people were treated differently than others. That is extremely relevant dearly, you don't again that the was what's your guts at? What was your first response by four, the response, was not very relet relevant because think, he's he answers more. Like the typical conservative, I think that's a white person.
A ban still providing its. I think it's really relative. I mean everybody be treated the same way because I want depends on how you look at this in a right, and this is why these tests are always lie, but but he's finding this is where he's. Finally, this is remember this is going into his data bank for his research. So it's important that you don't over. Think this. I think, because he's looking for here, looking for the differences because and what's he gonna, do punish me for not ran through hasn't it will solve, it is still now we're. May I really was still is results if you write you over think it, but it is. I know, tat well enough. I do assure with every single do, but ten shows with them every day, and I know what
things this incredibly important to Pat is a constitutional principle of equal treatment under the law. Yes, so when I look at that thing, it says whether or not some people were treated differently than others. I look at. It is like, while the law should apply equally to everyone, and I know how to Greece environment I was thinking of outcomes I am just hit me is to let you have to answer that right. So I have to answer, though it ok. Now this next generation is using less and less cash. Everyday banks are now looking to replace etiam cards with your cellphone. A digital economy is coming, Cashless, society, He is coming a card. Society is coming? What does that mean? Oh man, heck of a lot heck of a good things and a heck of a lot of bad things means you don't have control of cash, can't pull your money out of the bank. There's no money, it's all digits controls. The bank. Who controls the FED who
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The lights of a true seventh back glad that programmes where we found out what kind of person. Let me ask you this: where did he say I was extremely relevant, extremely important for somebody who just violated the group be decreed that group here, but I was relative, so we were looking at right and wrong. We're gonna use that is extremely relevant patches finished. The survey in the they can then started reading as his results. So that's what we were going to do with you So now we find that the patents do should recognise this, as we do. A segment called spoons every day in which we take tests of new crazy food and pay Every day, while we're in the commercial before the segment airs just starts eating the food, so that we don't actually Have the reaction or talk about it, no stones, our reactions to the realities of the media, to share my reaction in a few moments that mean the whole point of the segments to eat it, because we can do it off the air and then just talk about it. If that's, what we want to do with
every day, because I realized I was doing what to do, but it is with betraying the group extremely relevant, again zones. Stew. Do you agree with his mother that too three questions that we did our genes and now I would change or my you I would I was somewhat relevant on the loyalty and and betray his or her group, something disgusting I just had slightly relevant denied his or her rights extremely relevant. Yet whether or not but people would be differently than others. I said very relevant whether or not some other nuts violated standards of purity indecency. I put slightly relevant for that. I think it's important slightly relevant near they. What wait wait? What does in standards of purity and decency, I'm thinking of others have like well. How do you treat that well, Perceval speech Is it important for me for someone when, when someone says something terrible like you're, looking at how to judge something right or wrong and
the guy who's bringing you. The information is Milo right inside like it's slightly relevant what he is saying, but I mean overall, the principle of free speech would would trouble that, for me, so like its relevant. For me, whether I think, but I mean- and that's the thing I again I guess returning moral right or wrong. I would judge his speech and do judge it negatively right right, you're, trying to judge something right or wrong, and the person whose bringing this to you is act in an indecent in a moral way, for how my How are you decided is that this is an important and have this comes to this every time I feel the ice test, but it's like I'm I'm looking at that is like well, they should be treated equally looking round. So, as you said slightly so go next asked whether or not an action cause, chaos or disorder, I would say very relevant weather not someone was cruel. Very relevant No, it's interesting stop there. I want not stop there. When we come back your
Morals dot org, take the test, its actually important for research, your morals, DOT, Org Bank programme. That programme, so what was it when somebody betrays how relevant easy when they betray the group we set out with an easy little saying: we're gonna see our path, scored on a moral foundation in theory test, he decided to go off on himself in and take the test We cannot just understood the direction, then wasn't very hard. Then we in the break decide to go to stew and stew gives up
the time I've eliminated. Try answer like I did this is. I can't take this test. Its two ard from I keep talking myself into different ways of answering the minutes is pointless at this belt. Jeffrey went through it discords, zero across the board. So well, that's not true about, because purity here is negative, you're the plight of unjust and here the five categories, exorcism five categories- and this is why this is important- is because how do we relate to each other? Let me give you the five categories of what each means. First, one is care, and harm This foundation is related to our long evolution is mammals with the attachment systems and inability to feel and dislike the pain, others underlies virtues of kindness, gentleness and nurture ins. Second, is fairness in cheating. This foundation is related to the evolutionary process of reciprocal altruism, listen to this agenda the ideas of justice, rights and anatomy,
for autonomy, I'm an original conception. Fairness included concerns about equality which are more strongly endorsed by political liberals, blah blah blah blah blah than they changed the theory, the fairness and cheating, though, when you're reading the book is really interesting, because they too, about how. Conservatives Look at things like if you give a man give a man too much they'll. Begin to just rely on you and you can get cheated and then you been a bad steward of Europe of your money. Where can swear liberals? Don't look Necessarily at that level, see it the same way. Clearly the third. Is loyalty and betrayal? The foundation is related to a long history as tribal creatures to be
able to form shifting coalitions. It underlined virtues of patriotism and self sacrifice for the group. It is act Any time feel that it is all for one and one for all. This is loyalty loyalty and betrayal YAP? The third one interesting le liberals score really low. Really low and that it is Trusting isn't it. It is the very score pretty high on harm, so they want. Are many body. Obviously three three point: seven is Let us out of five. In fairness. They score three point: eight out of five loyalty to point to which is considerably lower than the conservatives and Lord lower than I did authority and subversion. This foundation was shaped by our long primate story of higher uncle social interactions. It underlines virtues of leadership and follower ship in In deference to legitimate authority and respect for traditions, the score really low on this one
sanctity and degradation. This foundation was shaped by the psychology of disgust and contamination it under as religious notions of striving to live in an elevated, less carnal, more noble way. It underlines the widespread idea that the body is a temple which could be desecrated by immoral activities and contaminants. Its a unique to religious traditions. However, so they get a liberal score, a one point for, as you can imagine in this way, a terrible TAT way up right, probably higher than you Jerry, be spoken, considerably lower than conservatives who were more than double? Okay? So now so care in harm that is number one or number two for liberals that was never to number two, fairness, fairness is number one. Ok, why they talk about it. So so number one is fairness and cheating. Number two is Karen harm. What's number three for liberals number three
would be loyalties, number four, authority number five security to isn't that interesting idea, and you can see that you're like up. Yes, I understand their behaviour, because this is generally speaking again generally speaking this is there moral foundation, bright. Ok, now give it to me. Its number one for conservatives see authority, three point three: loyalty and fairness and harm are all tied at three point. One and then purity was three point. Two. Priority was number five still it was there, though yeah just barely Look, I just doesn't measurable already much, even without yes, so the conservative, the conservative moment, the great thing is a conservative movement. All five and that's it point: we don't fall off anywhere, but what
we do. Is we focus on loyalty, betrayal, authority and sanctity so an end. Sanctity even makes our group even stronger in the loyalty, because it involves religion. Where did you score? The highest was appear ready Don't remember, I have to go. Look it up. I don't remember your ears, but for my eyes, yeah I'm is pure is driven snow. I was I was with the conservatives everywhere, except I don't think so, because I was a boy above impurity. I think and I was at or above liberals on their first too while in Harley Furnace here and it's where I think it's, why can talk. You know I had Samantha be in. She was talking shop didn't have this in her segment, but she was crying by the end of the deal she was crying because we were
talking about things of care in the harm and fairness, but- It was just telling her the things that mercury one is doing. I was talking to her about saving the children in the end and going in rescuing the sex slaves from ISIS and tell her her feel those stories it's why people wolves? conservatives, don't have a heart. Because we don't generally talk about these things because the last one because of purity, because we told you if you're gonna do something good. You don't talk about it. You just do it right are they just teachings. Tell us don't talk about dont brag about it. Don't do anything I always talk today. Secret we always talked about. It only when people are looking the correct
but the problem is: is there using that against us? Our? I say it. Don't you say that way, I'm sorry! Don't they are not allowed to see our heart and they don't see our heart inaction, then the it it doesn't connect with They think we're heartless we're just doing it quietly. That's the difference So being able to use the the is intuitive ethics to be able to guide. Your conversation to be able for us our big boss. Take last year was east scored, I'm I'm guessing very low. With our audience on the loyalty and high on the betrayal scale, because
I do not classified as a mistake. I would neither Ghana its principles right right. Your singing in some sign some ways: orders eyes. They saw our opposition, to him as a guy as something that was disloyal to Republicans in general, suppose end? What we were trying to do is be loyal to Prince and our not understanding The feeling of this is where I think we made a big mistake and not not an where we ended up, not our stance, but how Oh we did it. Here's where I think we went wrong we, Didn't see the we didn't have enough empathy. In our speech to see the people who were at home, who were
really truly afraid of another four years, because they're out there are the gas there that my cold mine is gonna, be shut down. My business, He's gonna go out of business by my insurance, I can no longer afford, because this year it's gonna go up fifty four hundred dollars. I can't I do it anymore, not a second, more. We were looking at things a little more esoteric Lee. And they were looking at it more vis. Really, you know to me, we all felt pain- and we all didn't light, but I think he felt it a little more viscerally than then we did, and so that's why people are like your high and mighty morals are good as well when people are really in pain, that's the kind of things they say: you're, high and mighty morals are not gonna put food on the table. That's when people say
to sacrifice some principles because they're they're in grave danger and pain? Okay, so for us not to recognise or have enough empathy for that, and then I realise that were feeling betrayed by us, but it was over and over again impossible for us to believe, the day and understand? We had no loyalty to the Republican Party. We ve said that is your. I know our entire career this, but they wouldn't know able to talk. They weren't the Republican Party, but they were not loyal to the Republican Party either they felt Donald Trump was being loyal to them. He said Rob I can make your pain go away, so they weren't loyal to never told that Egypt was gonna, make America works, what they heard the health incessant. They heard me help me out with that
I would see this means open change greatest seeming. I now sure thing I know, but this is where this is. Where people go wrong, is. I dont disagree with you, Pat. I don't disagree with you. You No, I don't guess I mean I'm the one who started the course and in you know, we all went in it together, but I was the final one said yes, we're going so You know, I don't disagree with you, but sometimes we're living in a post fact world, when you're talking about feelings, those facts, don't matter? So how do you get past? The feelings for Since you have to do is de escalate. The fear you have make people feel safe. If they're in fear, they will not get past those feelings and that's what
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problem with saying that about Sweden, even if that's not what they call them. There are places where the police don't go and they have admitted and we got the Monti on them on tape. Sea were in, we were in Sweden. I was in Sweden doing stand up in exactly the same place that sixty minutes was right and they got. Beaten up and my security guys got us out of their before. We were beat up and then the new documentary on Sweden. He's beat up in the same place that we were almost boot up, I mean It is a very dangerous place. It's a closed society, it is run with islamic law and Quite honestly, They wouldn't have anybody crime issue for us Everybody in Sweden would be like here. What were you going? Therefore? We can help you there Please don't go there, they would have. The absolutely they would of because, and they
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