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Hello America from LOS Angeles, California, it's the Glenn Beck program. We have an update on what the court decided yesterday, what they're still looking at to decide and what it all means to you coming up in a second also the latest, from inside the capitol on what is really going on with healthcare. It's not pretty we'll tell you about that and again what it means to your life. There is there's a vital information that I think you need to know as this does affect you and will affect you and your children for the rest of your life. We're gonna begin with the Supreme Court. Also, we have Mark Levin in on today and Brad Store. We begin right now, fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the. There was a really good news. The Supreme Court made some monumental rulings yesterday and agreed to hear another that will decide whether religious freedom is. This still a core principle in the United States.

But let's look at what they did do yesterday. The long awaited showdown on religious freedom, as it applies to christian bakers, florist, photographers owners of wedding venues and others Who have been forced into participating in gay wedding ceremonies? We have a quick recap on this first ruling. There have been several of these incidents around the country, but the one that is going to be decided by the Supreme Court Involve, case in Colorado. Now in Colorado, the lower court rule Jack Phillips. He is the owner of a place called the masterpiece cake shop

violated Colorado's public accommodations law. Now the public accommodation law means that you can't refuse service customers based on things like race or sex or marital status or sexual orientation. Here's why you should care about this story: freedom of religion, the freedom to exercise the dictates of our own conscience is at stake. You may have to participate in compelled speech. That's not good!. You may have to participate info things that you have a deep feeling and a deep belief that Is wrong, we are, talking about at the level of if Europe fist and Euro Waker do you?

I have to go and fight well, yes,

you do because it's of the country and we're all citizens well, but that goes against the dictates of my spirit, my conscience. You lose conscientious objector, you lose the right of your own conscience and you are no longer in control now. Let's look at the facts. Here are the things that we absolutely know agate Coupled David Mullins in Charlie, Craig visited the masterpiece cake shop in twenty twelve, along with Craig's mother. They wanted to. Or a cake for their upcoming wedding reception now Mullins in Craig plan to marry in Massachusetts where same sex marriages were legal at the time and then hold the reception in Colorado, but Phillips.

Said, I'm sorry, my religious beliefs. I can't make your wedding cake for a same sex marriage. He say There are other bakeries that will be happy to accommodate you. I just have these religious feelings that I cannot move past now. Here's something important in the fact category

gay marriage was still prohibited by Colorado law. In twenty of meaning Colorado. Civil Rights Commission determined that Phillips action violated state law, even though gay marriage violated Colorado state law at the time so they're, both a pair Lee breaking the law. Even so, the ruling was upheld in Colorado state courts. Now those are the facts of the case. The contest

in facts are Jack, Phillips is a bigot, we don't know. He's a homophobe, we don't know, is violating the rights of the gay couple because he's a religious zealot well.

When did religiosity become something that you had to shed be his, he believes his religious sensibilities and his conviction or being violated. He believes it is against his religion to protest it in their ceremony, and that is a clear violation of the first amendment now here's,

but I believe this is why this story means to me what you should take away if this were the other way around. If a gay baker we're being asked by a christian couple to make a wedding cake, that said, marriage can only be between a man and a woman. There is no way the state of Colorado would be forcing the gay baker to make that cake. No way. If the Baker were Muslim,

try to imagine a scenario where the court would be forcing him to deny the tenants of Islam but be ' 'cause. Christianity is our major religion. It seems as though it is perfectly acceptable to limit discriminate against totally disregard the convictions of those who practice it. Why? Because Christians have been the oppressor. Forget about the oppression that is happening in islamic states. We are a bigger oppressor as Christians. Now, how can you possibly violate the first amendment by forcing the baker to participate in something that violation of his religious convictions? This is a slam dunk in a sane world. The

Supreme Court needs to rule in favor of the first amendment and the every american citizens right to free expression of religion. Now it's a sham, that's something different and that's why we didn't accept. Conscientious objectors from everybody had to show that that is what your faith do. An you were a good member of your faith.

If this is still America, there is no other way to rule and court will rule on this soon. Yes, today, the court did make four decisions, some of 'em good other, it's not so much, but there's good news here, religious liberty, the Supreme Court made a ruling yesterday that flies in the face of the nonexistent separation of church and state. This is a this is a big win for people of faith. Until now, christian abstinence organizations have been denied funding. Pro life organizations have been I'd, been denied participation in governmental programs, while at the same time, in a board bill mill like planned parenthood will receive half a billion dollars a year in Gov in spending. Until now, yes,

today, the Supreme Court ruled seven to two that the Gov we cannot exclude churches and other faith based organizations from secular government programs simply because they have a religious identity. Seven two: this is a huge surprise, because it it means that rely available, progressive judges, L Mckeighan, Stephen Bryer, both joy in Kennedy, Robber, Alito, Thomas and our new judge, Neil Gorsuch, and

join them on the side of the religious organizations. The case involved the state of Missouri denying a church, a partial reimbursement grant for rubberized playground, surface material made from recycled tires and the reason why they rejected it is because the church is the preschool. Even the only purpose of the grant program is to improve children's safety. It sounds no big deal, but it is actually a very big deal. Thanks to playground, christian organizations can no longer be discriminated against. It is a step too. It's restoring sanity and the con to principles. Tional me personally, I the problem with a with a tax exempt organization getting tax dollars,

but I would say that about any organization, not not just churches. This is, however, well, in my mind, overruled because means that if you're christian, you can get the same services as everyone else, the court has taken a step towards ensuring that you, you, your children, will be allowed to continue to exercise your faith. The way you see fit and you are not excluded from the rest of society. This is a rare victory for not Christians, but the constitution and lengthens a core american principle. There's another case involving a same the same sex couple to female couples: petition the Supreme Court to review their case, which fought Arkansas Department of Health insurance of of our issuance of birth certificates,

bearing only the birth mother's name and not the female spouse. It would have said birth, mother and then you know the spouse of the the Father. This is something that is always done, even if the Father isn't the father and it's it's done for other groups, it's just being held back not allowing to have a female spouse. They ruled yesterday and it to a provision of the Arkansas LAW, which was rejected by a trial court, kept in beast by the Arkansas Supreme Court. The high reversed and remanded the Arkansas High Court's judgment. They found that aunt until now, opposite sex couples were being treated differently than same sex couples in similar situations. Now,

what's interesting about this, Neil Gorsuch issued blistering dissent from the Supreme Court's decision that Justice Clarence, Thomas and Samuel Alito, both joined, so it appears as though Gorsuch is ruling in the way he was advertised to rule conservatively. We wondered if he would do this with a social issues. He's certainly did on this one gay, it's an issue that was absolutely been now resolved in America. The battle is over. According to the and, in large part, the mindset of the american people gay couples have all of the same benefits in the same rights as opposite sex partners. There is no longer any differentiation. Your children are growing up in a world now where it is possible, if not likely that part,

the Bible could be considered. Hate speech soon now gun rights. Strangely, the court refused to hear an important California case whether the second amendment gives people the right to carry handguns outside of their home for self defense, including sealed, carry when open, carry, is forbidden by state law. Clarence Thomas again, Neil Gorsuch dissented from the court's decision not to hear the case. Thomas in part quote those who work in the marbled halls guarded constantly by a vigilant and dedicated police force. The gal antes of the second amendment might seem antiquated and support superfluous, but the framers made a clear choice: they reserved to all Americans the right to bear arms for self defense. I do not think that we should stand idly by while a state denies it citizen that same right, particularly

when their very lives may depend on it. End quote: if you in holding your collective breath our Neil Gorsuch wondering if he's going to turn out like Thomas or Scalia, or he be co, opted by the leftist on the bench and wind up like scootering. A suitor in Kennedy. Early results, but we have some interesting facts about this later on the product. The broadcast Early results show that gorsuch is everything as advertised. This is encouraging news from him. He sees is to be the justice that everybody hoped he would be, but because the cord is a whole refused to hear that. The second amendment case- and I think this one is critical. Not only did they squander the opportunity to strengthen the second amendment, for now gun owners in California are mostly unable to obtain a permit to carry a gun.

So they have. No protection in California is more and more dangerous in the cities. The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, still not understood by many in The United States, for whatever reason court failed to act on behalf of the constitution. Fine, either travel ban president travel ban, was surprisingly most mostly mostly allowed by the court. It's it's not entirely allowed. It's just mostly allowed. Maybe we can get miracle max to take it all the way home they will give a full issue. This issue a full hearing later in the fall, the Sopr in court. However, yesterday remove the injunction issued by lower courts on refugees without Ucl, who is Ty to the United States, meaning that for the vast majority of refugees, the ban

is now being upheld in the interest of national security. It seems like Donald Trump at this point is just asking for time to figure out what's going on and It's not hard to figure this one out. You know, I believe there are extremist out there that want to create chaos and kill innocent Americans and by allowing our government and this administration time to decide how best to secure our nation in a time where it's very difficult. To discern who the good guys are and who the bad guys are. Americans. Men of them are somewhat relieved by this ruling. None bus want to see what's happening over in Europe, but again, none of us also want to see a repeat of anything like the japanese internment camps. This is not a permanent situation and none of us want to our children and our wives or husbands placed in undo peril. We don't have to

except everyone in our country at once, and we do have an obligation to be discerning about who we allow in and so, so far. The court is siding with Donald. Now this our sponsor were going into the Senate here in just a second, and I have some really incredible news on that. That's and not exactly posit, but we also have Mark Levin coming up and Brad Thor so there it is your dream house. The house, you and your spouse have imagined your whole life now you do. I have to get past the mortgage process easier said than done right. If you're ready to buy your ready to refinance. You need consultants that are dedicated to helping you make smart mortgage decisions that uh that align with your unique financial goals. They have salary based mortgage consultants, they work for you, they don't work for the bank.

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So your house is your house with a there is a There is a real problem happening in in Washington DC a an amazing problem that we all knew. But now we have to decide who do we believe, I'm going to tell you exactly what is happening in Washington with the Supreme Court Ann, it's uh, but disappointing at best. But I need to lay out with the spring, with the same sorry, not Supreme Court, this MSN it yeah. It's extremely disappointing, not surprising being lied to by the

media an by the media on the right as well. They're telling you some things that are absolutely not true, and I believe this is a setup to to I to I I couldn't say that this this could be a set up, to try to blame this whole thing on conservative Republicans and finally have a progressive bill that does bring you single payer healthcare. I'm I'm going to show you why this matters to you and what this actually means to your life and will give that to you coming up in a second

Glenn Beck program. The Glenn Beck program welcome to it the Merge studios in LOS Angeles, California, hello and welcome. I'm so glad that you have tuned in today. Now there's a few things that I want to talk to you about on the Senate. First of all the Cbo scoring came out, and it's not good news. As for the Republicans, so let's look at what the Cbo said now remember. The Cbo is is always low. They never come out and said: oh my gosh. If this is maybe so expensive and it turns out that it's cheap is

always low, I don't know how they do it, but they have a perfect record of under estimating the cost of everything. So here's. Why came out and said yesterday? Still you know it's interesting, the big takeaway from pretty much everybody is twenty. Four million people will be uninsured because of this plan. Rachel Maddow tweeted that twenty four million people losing insurance is roughly equivalent to the population of fifteen particular states. So it is a big deal, the only thing being reported from the Cbo report. It will also reduce the number of people on Medicaid by fifteen million right twenty twenty six about, but that's taught that's part of the total twenty four million right and again, it's not going to that's not gonna happen because they're not that that's not being an active until like twenty twenty four twenty twenty five. This is then they'll never get there. They'll never get there. First of all. Obviously

I've Congress's from now. We cannot count on them to maintain these cuts to Medicaid at main and again, you know part of the cuts to Medicaid come with an offset of increased payments from the exchanges, which is what we typically referred to as Obamacare. So it really isn't it's it does eight in these are a lot of these are just partisan lies about people who want to defeat the bill or the people want to praise the bill. So what is the twenty? Four million number, the important part about that that everybody needs to know when you're talking to your friends today, and they said, oh twenty, four million people are going to lose in sure. The most important part about that is. The vast majority of those people are going to lose insurance because they are not going to have someone come into their home and what their insurance policy up and take it away. They're going to choose not to sign up these are people or forced into signing up now because of the fee they emphasize only because of the fee, and when the

he goes away, the Obamacare individual mandate fee they will choose not to purchase insurance anymore, so that is not the same as taking it from them right I want to. I want to really make sure that everybody understands the the individual mandate happened, because if you don't have the mandate and understand the free market system, insurance isn't insurance. If I can go and buy ensure. If I go to the doctor- and he says you have cancer- and I say crap, I don't have any insurance, don't worry son, I'm your uncle SAM sign up today and even though you've just been diagnosed with cancer and have but your insurance lapse and haven't had it, maybe even in your entire life the Amer. Can people are here to bail you out? Okay, alright! Well, that's not insurance! That's a guaranteed health program

that everybody gets it now problem with. That is you still running a sham operation and instead of saying we have a single payer system that everybody just pays extra tax. We all have insurance and we don't ever have to worry about signing up. What we're doing is we're taking the free market and telling it you cannot make a profit you can. You must take all of these risks and by the way, it's not, they just have to take you. I cannot raise anyone's rate because let their insurance elapse elapse. That's what Happ! If you let your insurance lapse, they know you're, not a safe bet. You haven't been paying in the pool, and this is the idea of when we say we're all in this together. It means that all of us all of us have to pay

eighty something in so whether it's you know it's the windows mite, whether it is ten dollars a month but you've need something in you, pay it in. But what's happening is all of the paperwork, all the all of teams of attorneys. All of the teams of people to make sure that paperwork is in is sucking up all of the money that should be used for health insurance. Now, let me tell you what's happened because of it. You were told that if you do this, you would get two thousand five hundred dollars decrease. You free family in America would save twenty five hundred dollars at least. In the first year alone, instead,

we have had a one hundred and forty percent increase in your premium. Why. Well, that makes you hate now think of this. Think of this is strategy, who do you hate. I don't hear the people hating the government, I don't people hating the or the Republicans. I hear them hating, who turns companies, the surance companies are getting rich, okay. Well, gee but they're being forced to do stuff and a lot of them called this on themselves. So I don't have a lot of sympathy for them, but the system doesn't work, it is going going to collapse. I hate the insurance companies

and nobody is saying well, it was the federal government that put unreasonable rules in that forced these companies to do this and it increases their their cost of doing business and so passing on all of that risk. Now to those who are paying for insurance, it's exactly what we said would happen. It's happening now. So here's, what's here's what I think is uh is happening and we have- we have some sources on background and I will tell you that what you're hearing in the left media is an app lie and but you're hearing for the most part in the right is an absolute lie. The the mainstream media wants to destroy Donald Trump and Republicans. The right media wants to protect Donald Trump and

GOP establishment, your being asked to believe Mitch. Mcconnell forget Donald Trump you're being asked to believe Mitch. Mcconnell people like the guys that guardian and you know the likely's, the TED cruz- is the Rand Paul's people who have stood by their principles, an never wavered those people. People are being blamed for this. Now he tell you what is happy you're, going to hear and already hearing it from people like Hugh Hewitt, who I really like and respect. I, like you Hewitt. I don't have anything bad to say. But I know he's one of them that is on currently beating the drum, which is the Mitch Mcconnell lie. Ah,

that lie is that the part commentary and has said you cannot repeal Obamacare you have to choose, and so they wouldn't the parliamentarian would not allow them to fully repeal Obama care. There are two provisions that have to repealed they did is they repealed the mandate, but they did repeal that you have that any with pre existing conditions or cancer, and they find it today they don't have a pre listing condition, see when we hear pre existing conditions. We think of people like my daughter who has had cerebral palsy. Her whole life and in is struggling and trying to get her on insurance is crazy. What were also talking about are those people who are irresponsible now some can't afford it saw are irresponsible that are low,

I'm not paying for it. I pay for insurance when I can just go, get it when I'm really really sick, I'm young and then in a car accident, and I don't have insurance because I don't need it now. This is going to happen to me. All of a sudden we're paying one million dollars bill that That is the person that you need to concentrate on, because that person is direct Oakley influencing your one hundred and forty percent increase, so we're king rid of the mandate that says to that twenty something you have to have insurance. You have to have it. We're getting rid of that, but we're not rid of the Prince company. You have to pay for that person who didn't have insurance and that you cannot raise the rates if they've left there,

if you've let their if they've let their insurance policy lapse. Those are the two drivers that affect you. Those are those two things are the reason you've had one hundred and forty percent increase without those two. Insurance rates will go down and you'll be able to afford your insurance again with those two 2in and the mandate taken. Your insurance rate is going to go up fast. Then it has under Obamacare. To me, this is that what they're doing is they're blaming the parliamentarian. I want you to understand that isn't absolute one hundred percent total lie the The leadership of the GOP under Mitch. Mcconnell have lied those senators who were part.

Of the committee who were saying look at. We want to work this out. We want to work this out, but you have to get rid of those two things, because that's the main driver and the pain and for America is the insurance costs the premiums going up if premiums weren't going up, you wouldn't be having a problem with this, but premiums are going up. And so you have to reduce the premiums, they say: ok, ok, ok, ok and never never did anything about it and now they're running out the clock and there saying that the parliamentarian is the one who has stopped it, but I want you to understand the part and Terry and was never asked. The parliamentarian has ruled you can take all or none of it. There is no reason to take half of it. For parliamentarian rules, it's either all or none

and the leadership in Mitch Mcconnell have lied to the members of Congress. Now, don't know why, but it here's to me as though they're running out the clock, because. They want a progressive insurance program, they do want sing who payer health care, they won and control of this, and they do don't mind squeezing you to get universal health care because if they fix it now, it's going to be so painful by eighteen, they're going to have another plan to fix it and this time they're not going to have to worry about those those constitutionalist like TED, Cruz and Rand. Paul and my weekly they're not going to worry about those people because they have a long discredited, do not believe the parliamentarian lie because that cigs

exactly what it is. I ask I ask you to ask yourself. Do you believe Mitch Mcconnell. Or do you believe, Rand, Paul TED Cruz MIKE Lee and those who are around them. Something is wrong here. And it is the usual suspects unfortunate because we are so split and we are so many of us are feeling we need to protect the president, because the press is lying that were not look. King, at the other hand, is controlled by Mitch. Mcconnell arse serve this half hour is K for Sleep, LOS Angeles and a I'm staying at a I'm staying at Airbnb, and they have three pictures of Obama in the house,

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Well. Three journalists have resigned from CNN after the publication of the Russia related article that they did turned out to be inaccurate, well sort get out of here. Good news is, is that CNN is saying I we were really probably should be better source than that. Let's see, if anything changes now that they have dismissed three people from CNN, it would like see them fired, but maybe that's just me also. Chip and Joanna gains are in the news today. I love these guys. They have totally transformed Waco Texas and they are getting involved in the life of a paralyzed firefighter a good. No, a great story. Also Brad for is going to be joining us here in just a second and mark live in. Has a new book called rediscovering Americanism and the tyranny of progressivism? He he in his book. He outlines what the problems are, how it started long ago. This is not a new problem and what we need to do about it. Mark Levin joins us right now, fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the a top adviser in the Reagan administration, author of multiple best sellers, chairman of the Landmark legal foundation. Also, the syndicated talk, host and host of live in tv, my

Livin is with us now hi mark. How are you Glenn Beck I'm great. How are you in the family? I am. I am really good really good mark. I I I wanna get jump right in to a real bad. I like what you like I like, HGTV and I love the gains yeah. I think they remind me of what is I'm supposed to right yeah and it's it's it's it's good to see that people still believe in that and, quite honestly, it is replaced the news channels in my home. It's and and and with the kids, it's replaced the Disney Channel. I can't trust anything, but I can trust chip and Joanna with my kids. When I walk out of the room, are you in here? something funny when I have to leave my dog for several hours. I keep the tv on GTV tell

I don't know how Hg TV is not the number one channel in all of cable yeah. I don't know anyway. Sorry about that, I want to jump to the do the back of the back of the book here where you talk about bill of rights in the constitution, and you talk about how this was. Not set up to give people rights This was set up to receive strain the government from infringing on those rights, and that you know you make the pie through the book that we really need to stand up for our rights and our natural rights and stop the government, stealing those liberties, but it seems mark at every turn. You we try, but it just doesn't they don't care? First of all, people need to know what these rights are. So they know what they're defending and we always did

custom at a surface level. And they need to understand these, these go back since the beginning, mankind, thousands and thousands of years. This idea progressivism is old time tyranny. Ah, and what I tried to explain to people is, you know we talk about Freedom July force coming up, what is but mean, and where did they founders of our country? Get these ideas from they didn't invent them in these philosophers, didn't invent them. You know we rely on people like believe it or not: folks, Aristotle and Cicero and Lock and Martha skew Ann Burke and they're not taught. The other side relies on people like Marx and Hegel and Russo, and they are taught and so you're not going to get. Your children are not going to get what they need to get from our public schools, colleges and universities, they're going to get the opposite of it d

because one of the efforts of the Progressive Movement one hundred years ago and they've succeeded is to take there ideology and make it in the class room ten teachers in the classrooms. You know John Dewey talks about this. What are their positions are not going to be advanced unless they can control what people are thinking, and so even look at this Obamacare debate. Is there any discussion among the political class? What so ever. About individual decision making about individual free, come to pick whatever the hell you want to pick and for somebody to sell you whatever the hell they want to sell you I mean when it the toasters and refrigerators and cars and so forth, we get to make those decisions. When it comes to our own well being in our own lifestyle, and I try to dig in and Glenn you're familiar with these things. I try to dig in and explain the people cut through all the static

all the chatter that's going on tv and even some radio and so forth, and understand more d, We what's going on here. Well we're going to get caught in the weeds and will never get out of the week yeah. So that's what purpose of the book! So so, let's look because I was so thrilled to see that you are really engaging in the fight on progressivism in a in a historic sense and you talk about the early leaders of progressivism and where it came from, and how it's working now we're seeing this now play out and we're seeing it play out in in this Obamacare discussion, and you know there lying there absolutely lying and I mean the progressives like Mitch. Mcconnell, I don't know, I don't know what game is being played, but this has nothing to do with the parliamentarian, and I don't know

if they just are trying to sweep out any constitutionalists and discredit them. I'd, don't know if they really do want to single payer health system. I mean, but you can't trust the repub chickens, because the Republicans have they were the guys who started the first. Progressive Party tried. Theodore, Roosevelt, I mean, let's be honest. The Republican Party is a progressive party, the Democrat party is a radical, progressive party, but there is no constitutional party and I don't want to hear about these little third parties. They get about. Twelve thousand votes- I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about the two major parties and the problem we have here is that we debating within their environment it's never about whether the government should be involved in this. It's how much government should be involved in this. It's never about Indivi civil liberty, individual choice, it's always about collectivism, eh.

What the left does you you hear Bernie Sanders. Do this now and Nancy Pelosi thousand the people hundreds of thousands of people will die if we do have Obama care. Are you kidding me? I mean oh boy, ok what is it eight years old? So now, all of a sudden, hundreds of thousands of people will die if we don't Obama care and the problem is the Republican Party been conquered in much of society's, been conquered, there's, not a single department, a single agency, a single program a single entitlement, that's about being illuminated, that's been curtailed, and why is that? It's? Because we are on trajectory. So what I'm saying in this book is alright, let's step back, let's understand the genius of our founding crisp. What is meant by the declaration of independence? We all embrace it now. What do they mean by natural law, natural rights? On the other hand, this other side, these two forces that are only fighting each other, although our forces fighting less

these days. What is all that about that mix of the far tearing ism and tear any and state and all the rest of it? Where does that come from? And you know you ignore the academics and you ignore the intellectuals at your own peril, because in the end there is a one decide our politics in this: the battle over the future of America. It's a battle over humanity and the central is the decision making in the hands of self claimed masterminds who seek to impose will and then dress it up as the general good and the general will and the benefit of the people they are the modern day tyrants and they can call themselves per I service all they want, but they are what they are. Is there. Is there a way mark to to reach

what sixty percent of the nation and and and together and I'm not talking policies, I'm talking about principles of of natural law. I believe that there are people on both sides that are problems and Besides that, can share the same values that we can re on. Here's the problem. I believe there's some people like that, but I don't think this two percent and I'll tell you why one of the things, the progressive philosophers and then there's so called thinkers croly awhile, while explain, explain rickrolling it. I people need to know who I mean he was the worst of the work and he born in

sixty eight, he lived in eighteen 1830s, seen an enormous influence on Theodore, Roosevelt among others and his, Parents were in a radical leftists and they they they intellectual lies. In my view, totalitarianism, and he embraces. Hey going and Marx in their own way, mostly Hegel Ann, and so do the others, and it's this in order to find in order. Find the individual to find their self realization, that's what they call it have to surrender their personal free will. They have to surrender individualism if there to enjoy sort of a parrot the cycle existence. So if there's a collect, If there's a community and the more perfect, this collective community becomes the more perfect the dividual becomes and your

lesson. Individual you're part of this, this magnificent society- and you can- you- can hear some Marxism in this too, and what this this is called. This is the german idealism. It's called historicism March, changed it to material historicism, not that not everybody's eyes to glaze over. So Crowley takes this any quote: unquote. American eyes is this, and so they have to attack, declaration of independence, they have to attack the. Person of unalienable individual rights. They have to attack the right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness because they have to have conformity every it has to be running in the same direction. In order to get to this paradise, this Paradise, which is nothing more than the personal agenda of these individuals, which they seek to impose on the country. This massive bureaucracy we have is an outgrowth of the progressive movement and it exists

the purpose of getting around our constitutional system elections, don't better, they don't go away. It doesn't show change the overall direction of the bureaucracy they have given themselves tenure union protections, civil service protection, they're, not experts, but not professionals,. They're pushing an ideology not all of them, but as a rule, and so whether we have an election or not there, they are re distributing south issuing regulations and fiaz issuing fine and penalties, whether Conway so so. We're not the president says so under the american people want it or not, the will of the p well is irrelevant and yet Glenn they always dress it up when listen to guys like Bernie Sanders as populism, they always dress it up as popular sovereignty that p. What does urban the people need at? I stand for the people and yet at all this involves centralized government. It always involves a government oriented program, and so

point is that this war on our founding of this war on the declaration, this war on the constitution, separation of powers is, is the greatest disaster to these people, because they need a centralized authority that imposes its well. So we can get. You know the end of the rainbow. That's why you see the attacks on the constitution silver, but what I put in the book or the exact quotes these people smearing these principles attacking the deck patient attacking the constitution. They call individualism that you and I and our listeners believe, and they call old individualism, there's a new individualism. Will you surrendered to the state you, and I talk about liberty, for liberty to you and me. That means this circle of liberty around us that Aristotle talked about into Tocqueville, talked about and lock talked about this circle of liberty that the may not penetrate and the extent to which the government

is involved in our liberty and needs to intervene. It must not seek to do so to dominate us and that's not what Obama CARE prayers. That's not with all these other things that they've created on the left. It is intended change rush to remake us and the reason you get increased centralization, an increase police state policies and tactics is because it goes against fans nature. It goes against history. All right, I've been no. No, how long do I have you? Let's see, think about it in to break I'm going to come back clarity. Maybe he meant for just a second. Let me take a quick break with Mark Livin 'cause? I want to pick it up where he just left. I have a couple of questions on on how we can come together because he's right, that is the problem now. How can we change that back in a second with Mark Levin. Let me

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You said on your radio show about the Senate Health CARE bill that the two part they have abandoned capitalism. It goes really do point of your book. If we don't, if we band our principles, we never get the country back that we remember as a kid all the good parts without all the bad parts we are, I mean the they, the are abandoning all of that. So let's use your book and how do we get people to understand that this is a really bad deal that Mitch Mcconnell has just given us and- and we got to stand up for our own individual right, I think for so we have to stop defining ourselves through the Republican Party or Washington or whatever it's a. We have

get back to our own souls in our own hearts and our own belief systems and it's I take the citizenry to do that and you know I include a letter in this book from Thomas Jeffrey, the John Adams, which he look back at Rome and he basically says Cicero Brutus Cato none of them could save run. The people lost their virtue. No system can be put in place to save what I'm saying. Is we the people with our fan with our friends at the grassroots? We need to run everything by Mitch, Mcconnell or the public school system or whatever we can read. We can talk, we can have discussions like like the colony did and so forth, and so on at the dinner table at our restaurants and our church and synagogues and so forth. But we can't have those discussions that we don't really know the number the matter and that's what I'm

find a guy that I don't know if this will have any influence or not if it affects a thousand people. That's a good thing. I don't expect it to change history. Glenn! It's taken us over a hundred years to get here. It's probably going to take us if we can or three years to get out of this, but I don't know- I couldn't agree with you more, and it is the reason that I have kind of let my shoulders kind of go down a bit of taking on such a big fight it. The fight has to fought by the individual and we all have to choose in the fight or not live in. The name of the book is rediscovering Americanism and the tyranny of progressivism mark always good. Have you please say hi to Julie for me and and good luck on on everything, your your working on and your beautiful wife, God bless. God bless, read

Discovering Americanism mark live back in a second Brad Thor next hour. The Glenn Beck program, guys I'd like to talk to you about what mark was talk. In about an, and can we go theoretical here for just a second on on his? What can he you know? He makes a really good case in his book of what we need to learn about, progressivism and and what the answers are. It is. It is so good to see, finally that press ism

is being known by its historic route I mean, if you remember, on this program. Ten years ago we started talking about it and nobody care about the historic roots, and we made the case. For probably two years completely alone say no, no, the story could roots must be understood by the mass, not just the intellectuals and- and it is the disease. Or the cancer that is eating the constitution and the declaration of independence and as he points out in his new book, it was designed to be that openly designed to be that But have you guys seen his book yet? Have you the cover of his book? Yeah? what we had here- okay, so Oh the cover of his book. Is he standing by an american flag- and I I want to have a a

an intellectual discussion here for a second and show you in action. What I believe is happening in America if you the cover of his book, it is perfect for the audience that he's trying to reach he's, trying reach the conservatives, and so he he is standing with. You know full. So you know it's Mark Levin. His is in bold up above so you know exactly what is but forget that no it's Mark Livin. Let's just say this is a book that is on the shelf and it's trying to reach everybody. So you put Joe blow up there and Joe Blow is, is on the cover, and so it's not Mark's book and it's trying to appeal to everyone. What can you see in this book, that is, that is a not just a a turn off.

But confusing or made to look like poison anyone on the left- and I don't mean the hard left I mean just the liberal mindset. If you're just looking at visuals and you're looking at the at the title and everything else was looking at the whole cover. What's the problem. The american flag, the American, I guess one there's two that jump out at me If I could have done book, people don't like words. Okay, so there's the american flag and then the title rediscovering Americanism. We have these moral foundations and in these moral foundations there is, there is

care and harm. There is sanctity and degradation let me use that one is a prime example 'cause, it's so clear cut with the left. Really is nothing sacred, and People say that global warming is becoming a religion. It's really not, they don't someday some, but generally speaking, they don't look at the and it is sacred. If they did, they would not leave the trash behind. When they have these big global warming festivals, they would know not get onto their jet, because the earth is decred and they really truly believe that so. There is nothing that is sacred and that's why you see degradation, and so many shows, and so many things that are produced by you know die hard progg. Liberals it

and go to really whore place is really dark. You know and degrading places easy because there is no sanctity, and Degradation is left to go. There's no balance. What What global warming is really all about is the idea that there is oppression. The main more full foundation of of the of the left is care. Not harm but care and oppression. Now the flip side of oppression is liberty, but they don't have both sides of that moral pillar. They only have oppression. The under stand, liberty to be the end of oppression,.

Well, who are they teaching and who have they been taught? Is the great oppressor America and more specifically, they White Europe in Anglo Saxon that came over, that started America, and so we've raped the earth we have stolen. Everyone else is history, everyone else is land and we as white men and in particular White Europe, and mainly american men, are the oppressor. So when you see things, the reason why they don't cry, will you know when their food the end when they see soldiers come back? Generally speaking, I hate to make this all so general, but generally speaking, the reason why they don't look at the troops. The same way is because it's an american troop, Anime

Americans are seen as the oppressor so when they leave the garbage on the ground, it's not because the global warming has become a religion. It's because they're trying to stop the end of oppression. They are trying to make sure that America is stopped. It that's why they don't you don't hear them talking about China. China is by far the worst on the planet, and yet the smog is so bad everybody's wearing masks, and you can't see the skyline almost everyday, and yet you people like Al Gore saying China is ahead of us, know: they're, not it's about oppression,. So here's a book on liberty and it's a book it is specifically aimed towards our tribe, and so the book works and the book works in its design. However, if you want to read, if you

any liberals to read that it can can't be designed to look like that, because they see the american flag, they see Americanism and they assume Americanism is oppression and ah the flag and Americanism to them screams fascist. It screams that this is. This is something that is a populist a nationalist kind of movement. We we have to find a way to communicate, not the, not in the in the in the instance here of Mark live because what Mark LIVE is doing is he's targeting another group but when we want to target the left, we have to understand their sensibilities and we have to understand what they if you're never going to change their minds on much of this, your name

we're going to be able to move them. Unless we speak their language, they don't understand. Liberty x through the lens of the end of oppression and depression, is caused by the White Male American. So now, how do we make the case for the constitution and live the as we know it when it was written by white male Americans who were also slave owners? They've set this up and built this perfectly and I'm reading a book that may come out, maybe in the fall probably next year, and it's about an event that happened in nineteen, fifty nine that nobody about and is as important as the

aggressive movement and it's something that nobody's ever discuss. We found this war like war, a minute what this can't be true. And it's brought us to this point and it is the literal document design two destroy white male Americanism. And if they can just make those three things, the oppressor they win with half the country. So how do we get into that? Head is Ben that has had such a great foundation laid against us. How do we use the own language? How do we piggy on their own language to get in to be a to make a point that perhaps

perhaps that is not the full story. Perhaps there is oppression in some cases and real freedom and the setting of people free in other cases, any ideas. Any thoughts is this, and I just did I make any sense at all yeah. No, I mean, I think your point. I mean you and you've made this point about your own books. Many times I think, with the going back to the old School Real America days, where they put a flag behind you remember. Your book has a farm up farm in a barn behind you right and they push really hard to get the flag on the barn right, the barn and the bar to they were like it's got to have a farm with corn and a barn and a flag on it, and you at the time where in the wonderful farmland of Philadelphia Pennsylvania, which really I think,

green is produced there, but I mean it's it's a true. I think it's it's a matter of who you're trying to you're trying to repeal to the you know what a lot of this you're talking about is from Jonathan Heights book and- and it talks about this specifically in that you hit a a point of your intuition, hits first, so people back to an intuition before they even bother with the reasoning behind it, hey see the book. They see Mark Levin, they see the flag and they say Americanism and they will not pick up the book right. Liberal will not pick this book up its it. Your intuition hits first, you say no, I don't want to read that book and then, even if there's your brain goes to work to justify that decision. That initial decision so like it's that how I think is this is not just a left. This is the right as well yeah, it's all of us all of us, and it comes to the point of you,

A brain essentially works as a your own press secretary to justify your initial decision in your brain works as the Sean Spicer or the Jay Carney to just If I would have decision you made initially, and so if your initial decision was, I don't like that book, because I don't like Mark Levin, I don't like lead back the american flag. Oh they're, trying to jam patriotism down my mouth. It doesn't how good the arguments are inside You'Re- probably never going to come along in this you're really trying to consider and be, you know, really being nuanced and care for your thing. If you are, if you are a freak of human nature yeah right! Then, you really were talking about. Three percent of the population will go against their got and- justification, it's it's almost impossible to do to the point about Even the people who study this as academics, yes, show no better record than the average person and being able to accomplish it. We're we are you know I've really been studying as much as I can.

Human, behavior and and behavioral science, because that's what God here gang. Got, us here was behavioral science and we have to use behavioral science back. Ok, nobody on the right even knows it uh and I mean it's. It's what we have to do if we're going to come back together, you want to have a civil war, we can have a civil war. I do want to be involved in it. I don't want to pitch for it. I don't want to, but I don't want anything to do with it, because civil war is usually a lot of people dead and it's rare that they work out. Well, revolutions, never workout. Well, ours was the only one out well, the best thing we can do is find a way to come together and it

be interesting to see Mark Levine's book, repackage, Andre written by him using behavioral behavioral. What do you call it studies to be able to re the position it and change its language. To see if you could make the case for the con institution and the declaration of independence, they just don't see them anymore. It's like speaking a foreign language to them. We have to that code. Our sponsor this half hour is my patriot supply. Alas, high level talks between the US and chinese officials over North Korea. Both sides reaffirmed that their goal is the complete, verifiable and irreversible denuclearisation of the korean peninsula.

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today we had such a fascinating interview with Brad, for usually you know, usually people when they have a chance to be on a national radio program. They just take it like, but Brad was here he was here early off and he was ready to go, and I appreciate that I felt a little guilty because I read half of his book and and then and then and then and then lost it. So I wasn't able to finish the entire block, but you know that wasn't just to you know, a turnabout is fair play between friends hi. I wanted to have him back on a second time to talk about his new book, which is absolutely fantastic. Brad Thor has eleven point five million books in print. He is now known as America's favorite author. He is very good friend and his latest book is called use of force and I believe, I'm older I, the ending, could suck, but the half that I read is tremendous and I believe it is is best book yet use of force. Good friend, never controversy, old Brad Thor begins right now, fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. This is the welcome to the program. Mister Brad, Thor, hello, Glen. How are you? How are you thank

good. How are you I am? I am. I am excellent and thank for your praise of this book. You know the entire time I was writing it with my Navy seal protagonist who's working for the CIA. I just said you know what what might pat do in this situation. You know pizza or stewardship in you know, dropping a dangerous foreign country. What might they do and they were really my Northstar. My lodestar yeah it was. It was the point you understand, because I read the book. It was to point you in the direction of. Go there right. It was kind of the George Castanza. Well are here just go the opposite direction, right, right, ok, Brad! I want to talk to you about a lot of things. How much time do we have? Do? We have quite a bit of time or you just time? Is you need? No? No, I'm fun. Let's, let's go do it! Nobody else can wait. We had such a good 'cause. We had such good conversation yesterday and

happens to people. I know it happens to people all the time where you know Jimmy there on Jimmy Kimmel or something and Jim will just stall install install and then the guest walks out halfway through is like. Oh sorry, I forgot you know. So I'm sorry, thanks for coming on back. Okay, so add reading the what you say. No that's what sue me as the match when he cheats amount of time you but we'll. Have you back yeah we'll? Have you back Brad in reading the book there's, a couple of things that I'd like to talk about and and not really give away the plot of the book, because everybody has to discover it themselves, but you who are talking at the beginning about the the way these. I guess what you get. Refugee ships are being packed aged over in the Middle EAST, whose packaging Jian and how they're doing it

and it is obscene. I have I mean I've, I've I've not yet, and you would think with liberals. You would see these kinds of reports I have. I have not seen reporting like this all. Is that really the way it happens? It is, I have to tell you there is lovely lovely reporter at the daily beast. Should I give her a big shout out to big shout out to actually need knowledge into this book, and that is the Rome Bureau chief for the daily beast, and I reached found her, but the friend current social media and incredibly helpful, because I was reading her articles about the refugees dated the connection with the Mafia and ISIS and you're the the coin. The term faction Glen and what I do is faction, where you don't know where the facts send in the fiction begins, but the refuge

crisis and how ISIS is using it and how the mafia's even involved and how their smuggling weapons into Europe for terrorist attacks is amazing, but This person a barbie at the daily beast in Rome, couldn't have been nicer. She really was terrific and she has to be brave. Really yeah explain a little without giving you know any of this away. 'cause, it's so great. The way you lay it out but explain, what's happening with the refugees. So in the in my thriller. The way it kicks off is in real life. We discovered a laptop in a terrorist, it's safe house and when they opened it up and look like to just come from best buy, never been used, but when the drill down, they found the real life. All of these chilling a plot things they had planned for Dallas in New York in Rome and Paris and London. In the c I a

never caught the guy, and so I had been reading barbie stuff on the daily beast about the refugee crisis. I'm concerned ISIS is threatened to sneak people into Europe. Terror in refugee crisis crisis on these boats, I started reading about it and looking in these smugglers are bad, I mean they are putting people I mean people are suffocating in the holds of these fishing boats that are not. Is he it's bad no to get all the way. It is worse than the slave trade ever was. Yes, they torturing and raping people? They are splitting families up and deciding you get to go to Europe, but we're going to keep your daughter and your wife here there people that have never captain a boat before and they're putting a a Kalashnikov. The guys head, saying: ok, you who paid us your life savings to go to Europe you're going to pilot this boat and they give him enough.

Cool to just get outside the territorial waters of Libya, and then they hand them a they've. Given him a satellite phone with one phone number pre programmed into it, and that is the Italian Coast Guard and these boats are drinking and thousands of people are, I mean it's a. It is a Tarian cry I mean it is. It is beyond barbaric beyond Rific what is going on, and I just thought you know this was fascinating, and if I can my my bring bring a little light to this and how evil these smugglers are and how well connected they are with ISIS, the the mafia I'd be doing some good with it. So why are they putting these boats out that are just not seaworthy worthy giving him enough fuel? Is it just a because massive chaos on the seas, so the boats and the refugees that are work in with them get in well. That is a big, that's a big part of it. So

they only it's Libya right, so they don't have like a great ship building infrastructure there and they're, taking boats that even these poor fishermen won't use to go out and fish on anymore and their Fillingham full of his. People. They cannot and just shoving him out. It is a money making operation. I mean these these, these guys, the scum of the earth they are treating in human misery, the things that these people go through it in these jeez are trying to escape their countries to get a better life. We can argue about what the best way is to do it, but it you know you you've got these people, it is in the the women If a wolf God forbid a woman, is pregnant or menaced rating? With some of these muslim men, I mean they've thrown women overboard. I mean bad stuff very, very bad. So you, go in and I don't. I don't want to give the story away, but I want to take U2 one place that I just thought was riveting is when Scott

It comes in the main character. What is this? The 17th book with him by seventeen thriller yeah? yeah and you can read them in any order. If you haven't read a Brad Thor Book, you can start with use of force. You don't need to have read anything in mind before so. Scott is the main character and he's going in to get a really bad guy and he He goes into a store and only remember where it was. Is it Libya? Where was it where you went with a satellite phones yeah that we the way you would track a smuggler down, is if you found a satellite phone you'd want to know who sold it to whom and you pick up the trail there now is just ticks. Blame the store scene is the from real life. There's a lot of this, that's real, so the smugglers, all by their satellite phones from the same

in company in the Emirates because they have the best coverage over the Mediterranean, so give him that piece of humanity that they actually want the satellite phone to work when the boat is sinking and these people are being fed upon by sharks. You hope that the italian Coast Guard, which is hours away, can find a way to rescue him. But so the scene, my guy, gets so terrorist. Remind body washes ashore in ITALY, the CIA panicked and they send Don Havre at my my protagonist out to retrace this guy steps to say what was he up to in? Are we going to see some mega attacks in the US this summer? Go retrace his footsteps and- Arvest, knowing that these guys use the same satellite phone company figures out who bought this satellite phone and it tracks to a small electronics shop in Libya, which is Bae based on a real little shop. That was trafficking in these phones and hard. It goes in to to try to bribe this guy giving cash first and the guy won't take it and in the middle of trying to convince this guy to give up the smuggler, Libby's

overrun with different militia groups? I mean they are a failed state. It is bad in Libya, three militia members pull up outside to actually do a transaction with this guy now harvest stuck got three militia guys come in and what's he going to do an eight eight eight. Eight, the balls very quickly as the scenes doing that scene was actually based on something one of my. My former special operations guys told me about it. Was it's a pretty terrifying scene, the way the Americans take charge and and then they take him out to get some information and the technology that you describe is. In some ways, comforting in other ways, absolutely horrifying and I want to get to that here in just a second with Brad Thor- the book is use of force. I want to talk

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like phone salesman. So this is real in this is been used by somebody that I know and essentially what he did was open up the laptop in front of the suspect it wasn't going to drill him through the knee caps or anything but to drone over this guys house and did a split screen that showed the guys, wife and kids, basically in the backyard and then showed a screen. That's got the underbelly of the drone with the weapons package so that he could say uh right activate this hellfire missile. If you will and basically terrified this guy into, if you don't give up the really bad dude you're working with then we're going to we're going to kill your family, uh. That was the threat that we know where you live. We've got your wife and children in the crosshairs, and you better give us this bad guy that we want or there's going be trouble, so I mean the way you wrote it. I mean that just doesn't sound. You know that's

amazing, but when you read it the way he didn't believe it at first and then he went over the drone flew over his how flew over his store. And he saw that it had been burned to the ground and he saw in real time and then the drone starts to fly to the house and he starts to sweat and He then sees his wife and his child step out on the back patio. It is it's quite terrifying. How do you feel about that ethically well I'll tell you the guy in question and readers will get this, the guy in questions are really really bad guy and the main care that's doing this to him has no intention to harm his wife or children. It's a psychological ploy here.

And that's what we get our our men and women out way doing some of the the country's most dangerous didn't have to make calls and have to decide how to do things so we're just going So hang on just say: I don't have a problem if we are using that and we don't kill his family, but then how do you have any credibility? I mean he has to die at that point if he says no, he he yes to die because he'll go back and say they used. This ploy mean they'll, never use it. Right it. Never it doesn't work, they don't follow through on it. They draw the line in the sand and I jumped right over it and there were no consequences right, yeah Would you would have to, and that's that's the benefit I get is a fictional out there is that I I get the ultimately choose how the guys going to react to this, but again it was from talking with someone who had done something similar and was able to assess what I mean that's what they do, they look at these people that they have to interrogate in decide. What's going to work with him that the more

information you can have about a subject before you even sit down to talk to him, the better off you're going to be, and sometimes desperate, desperate times call for desperate measures. That's a big thing! I talk about in the book. It's like. Ok, we're a nation of laws, not nation of men, and we put rules on our intelligence services and in our special operations community, and should they be allowed to cut in. You know how desperate that things have to be. Is a war look for one american life? You and I talked about Benghazi. I don't care that they couldn't refuel jets. They should have been going supersonic with american jets from ITALY over Benghazi, breaking every piece of glass in that town and then run until they run out of fuel and dump him in the med. An will pick up the pilots. We can build more planes, uh. So I'm a big believer and I think that's the fun part of my books. Is you read these and you're like ok, not only that makes sense, but I really hope that's what we're doing out there with the bad guys so Brad. We are looking at a much more dangerous world than we were when we first started talking you- and I were

much more hypothetical really. You know when we started talking ten years ago on this world could be like your book is now absolutely these things are going on and we are face sing these kinds of threats. No doubt in my mind that what you talk about with the refugees, what you show what happening in Paris in your book is absolute happening right now. Are you more optimistic or less us optimistic. Then you were five or ten years ago on the state of the western world. I so actually more optimistic on how we're going to combat it? Ok, I actually thing and you know I was not a trump supporter. I worked on Rick Perry's campaign, my family and I pray for Donald Trump and the people around him on a daily basis that they're going to be successful, 'cause we'll all be successful yeah. I actually think that the

administration can take the big leaps and do the hard work that needs to be done. I number one sink. You know we here after the Orlando massacre that this guy was on the FBI's radar. There wasn't enough to get him so they had to let him go Intel and services in the western world are drowning. We've got open ISIS cases in all fifty states in the US. It's happening in the in in Brussels in in the great Britain there's just not in intelligence officers and police officers to follow these guys and I think we need to lower the prosecutorial bar. We have uh world tolerance policy when it comes to child porn, if you're surfing that stuff on the internet you're going to jail, and I think we ought to identify the gate- the drugs, the on ramps for jihadism. I think we ought to make it a lot easier to prosecute these guys. And if somebody EVA, sleeps on your couch, and you know the We're planning an attack. You want to go away not for years, but for decades and people crime data check, you had to go away for your entire life. Let's raise raise the price. I want

Well continue our conversation with Brad Thor his new book is use of force. We're going to talk about what the Supreme Court did yesterday about. Bringing in refugees from other countries. We talked about that and so much more when we come back with Brad Thor. You are listening to the Glenn Beck program, mercury. The Glenn Beck program. I honestly think that the best uh thinkers on the planet for geopolitical con prince is an moves and countermoves are the guys who write what I call faction fiction that

that is driven by the facts of today. The people like Tom Clancy was when I was growing up, that's Brad Thor today You know that people, the Russians, actually thought he was a CIA plant that they were did the CIA was trying to get Russia to think that that's how the Americans will move, because he was so accurate in spot on. Brad has been a good Rendon adviser of mine for a while, because e fiction writers- this is what they have to do, and they have to make sense. Real, it doesn't have to make sense fiction- has to make sense so Brad with that, let's, let's war game, a couple of things, because I can't find a way out that I comfortable on a lot of these things. Let's start with North Korea, we have three carrier battle groups out now, the the time in history that that is ever happened. Where we've had three, we

always gone to war. We have auto warm warm beer being drugged and beaten now, according to one general, that they use sodium Penna on him so much it addled his brain. They beating him. They dumped him on our doorstep, like a like a mob hit, and we that they're also putting into production age missiles, and we really seem to have a line because the cross in that line for us is. All bad stuff. What do we do? Well I'll? Take it up another notch for you to add your anxiety over North Korea. You know a lot of people scoffed and laughed when, did their nuke tests when they detonated underground and said the these are relatively small low yield things ha ha ha. They can't really build a serious big bomb. Well, if you think they're going to put a

on top of a missile, you may not even worried about you know this thing equivalent to what the Russians have, but you know the North Koreans to put a couple satellites into outer space. They put one of these low yield bombs into a satellite in detonated over over the United States. The electromagnetic pulse is going to wipe us out. It's going to we're going to be we're. Gonna go back to the eighteen, hundreds in the blink of an eye now she's. I haven't even thought of satellites that thank you yeah. Thank you for the you're. Welcome sleep well like when you know Charlie, I'm sorry. I know I don't sleep as it is now you go. Do that? Okay? So so what do we do What should we do so Kim Jong Moon? Isn't the problem it's the military and political structure that that holds him up as a figurehead. The reason he's got that stupid haircut. Is it supposed to heart and to the days of his grandfather, father, which into

sing for me, is that they decided to assassinate his older half brother in an airport where they put up those two dupes, those diet massage is whatever it was and they killed the older half other, which is a really interesting move. I don't know why they did that what they were worried about, what kind of chess pieces are being moved into a sending a message to the the west? It's, sending a message to their own people. Look at what the West has done, but also may be sending a message to him. The people he's afraid of that, get you wherever you are and and also a message to the west? I don't care if you have it on tape, I'm not afraid possibility if that's possible yeah. No, it's totally pot, well, it's possible that they were worried that we some plot afoot to to over throw things into use. The older half brother is somebody to install a new, more democratic regime. There I mean it's hard understand their their nuts they're, absolutely not in the

isn't, a good way out of this particular because you've got soul sitting on the other side of the DMZ in saw when you think about it. With eleven million people there they are Israel of that area. There's bunkers underneath everything, because they're worried about in coming from the North Koreans. There is not a good way out of this and it's another place. You would have thought that we had Adam, was scenes inner circle very well penetrated before we went into the to the Gulf WAR scenario, we didn't and even more blind when it comes to North Korea. We need to get inside these guys all have is in the closet. The general in the political is behind and we need to work it from the inside out, okay, so you are a I've, got a gun to your head, I'm forcing you to put your your house down on the bed table. You bet this and the in our favor or it ends with war.

I think China goes in and does something. I think the Chinese are better equipped to overthrow the government and they don't but the problem for China. Is they don't want the mass of humanity running in that's the big thing south korean the Chinese want to contain it. But my money would be on it actually some sort of a coup in China being the brains behind it that it had to be what I hope all right next to us and I've got two scenarios left here. Next, one Russia, the election We know we've known forever that they were going to try to influence our election. They are looking for chaos. They weren't trying to get trump in, although they do you Like- Hillary Clinton. That was an extra bonus. What they're trying do is cause chaos and have us lose faith in our own system and and be able to manipulate. We are arguing about politics, we're not really facing the problem, and that is that Russia Romney right russia- is our biggest geopolitical foe right now and is

a direct threat to the United States at. How does this one end? Well, I'll tell you, I know what we should do and it was bill. O'reilly's idea, I don't think we should be. I don't think american credit card companies should be honoring any transactions inside Russia that would be devastating for them absolutely devastating, and if we I'll drive down oil prices by flooding the market that also huh. Boot and he's only got winter tree, but we We really are, I mean you know our fracking. It was too late to stop the Saudis, try to stop us from fracking, it's already too late for that. We are a big reason why the oil prices are as low. They are in deep trouble economically. Does not make them more desperate. Going to make a more desperate, but I think that with the internet and the ability of good russian people to see stories about liberty and freedom from around the world, I think we should be. I think we should be fomenting unrest in Russia. We should be doing everything we can. You know what you're going to do it to us. It

like the whole uh untouchable thing. They send one years of the hospital you send two of those to the more. I think we ought to out manipulate them, but do it with the truth. I think we should ignite the lamp of Lee party in the hearts of the russian people, because once those lamps are lit, there is no extinguishing it and let's beat him with the truth. 'cause, it's there's a lot of bad things in Russia and the more we can do to help expose it and get those people to rise up the better it will be for the rest of the Putin needs to go in all of those sleazy car people around him. Do he actually come to our senses as as guns and Democrats an actually deal with the fact they are already here, an infiltrating and working on two thousand and eighteen and two thousand and twenty. Do you see us actually getting there or just using all of these investigations, one side or the other. I listen. I know that there are good people on both

side of the aisle that are concerned about this 'cause. They shoot can be on the other foot tomorrow. It can be a republican today, a Democrat tomorrow, that's being either helped or hurt by these efforts. This isn't it can issue and that's the way we need to focus on it in you know Trump. Is it one issue he won't touch? You will not condemn the Russians to come right out and say if this happens again this is going to be the consequences. I don't know why you won't. I don't know, I think he, I think, listen. I think he felt more comfortable in Saudi Arabia than he did at the NATO summit, I think he admires what he thinks are strong leaders in dictate are not leaders there there despots, tyrants and for some he feels an affinity with them. He likes tough guys. I think that's a mistake. I think real american leadership would be saying you know what you dealt. You did some pretty bad stuff and you know we're not going to ease sanctions on you. I mean it's insane that Congress has got to do what's best for the can be by blocking the loosening of sanctions in the president's lobbying. For that it that's insane. If I'd written this in a book,

I would have been tossed out of my editors office, Brad, Thor the author of a new book use of force. If you've never read a Brad Thor book start with this when use of force. It's really really good eleven point: three million copies of his books in print today, which is a staggering number. At last scenario: the Middle EAST. We are now siding with the syrian Kurds, who are marxist revolutionaries and and terrorists We are using them as proxies to fight the Russians and the Iranians and the Syrians. It's gonna come and bite us in the Ass aran is now trying to sweep into a crescent too start their own caliphate. Turkey, once there's ISIS, is kind of on the run, but there more global operation now

and we seem to have our head in the sand still, although we are getting better, how does this one end? Well, I think that current administration has opened up good channels of communication with the Saudis, the Saudis hate, the Iranians and I think we need to continue to listen. This doesn't end. Well, I mean this is a long. Protracted Luke warm war. If you will, where we're not necessarily firing the shots, but we're actively supporting people that are so we're going to see a lot more, this proxy stuff. This does not end well, but the one thing again that I think the Trump administration can do is every time there's an active islamic terrorism somewhere in the west. I think we ought to ring another concession out of the muslim world, so another drop of from blood is spilled. We are merciless in having hammer them publicly for this backwards ideology, and not only to condemn radical Islamism but to say, okay by the way when he

start letting women vote in Saudi Arabia in just a hammer that to just bring unrelenting pressure for reform in the muslim world, because until that point really playing whack a mole with terrorists and we really need Judaism spin been reformed, Christianity undergoing a reformation. Islam has not, and it's long past due um Brad, the. Supreme Court, ruled that the president can say for the safety of Americans we're not going to take these refugees until we work. This out is honest effort to try to figure out a way to bring people into the country and and have an idea of whether they're, good or bad. You know we've worked it out with you re one in the Nazarene fund, but it would be politically incorrect to do that as a nation. How do you do, but is there a way to do it? Others,

all the different ways in one of the things is bad communication on part of the Trump administration. These six countries were identified by the Obama administration because they couldn't even tell you if people getting on planes had parking tickets or overdue library books, and we need the screen, I mean you get on a plane in London anywhere else in the world. Your name is sent to the United States. They know before that. Plane takes off who's getting on the plane and that's important, so that's not an anti mo one thing, you need that from any country in the world to know who's getting on these plains. That's number one: two, the refugees come you UN intake centers. They are like they're like bad prison yards. Okay. If you D is a Christian. When you check into these places, you're going to get killed what bad things are going to happen in these refugee camps, which is why Christians, don't self identify their and I I want everybody who is a good honest person, view muslim Christian, whatever to have an opportunity to get to the US. I want you to be a productive citizen, but we

eat this idea again Bill O'Reilly another great idea when he talked about setting up safe zones. In Syria within the muslim world, so that we don't have to take people here so that they can remain culturally, where they're most comfortable, because they're running on from something they're not wanting to the United States they're running away from their own problems, and I think we need to keep them in that region where their culturally adept they under in the culture. If you want to come to America, that's a separate story, but if you're coming to America just cause, we've thrown open the doors and you're getting away from something. That's not exactly a tier one fudgie that we that we want, if that center. I'm not I'm not saying we shouldn't take people in times of war and strife, and things like that. But I want to make sure that we're making plenty of room for people who are you know, standing in line and have devoted themselves fully to being here, but I look at the faces those children and you want to help those people as much as you can. I want anybody who wants to be good american. I want I'm here and I want to help them, but we need to vet people, we need to vet them. So I uh really thinks to pat Jeffy. I

all those guys. I think we had to put them on the front lines and just you know, to sit down, have a coke. These guys kind of fifty five what point and bring your vest and bring your friends it's a three piece suit place. You know Glenn I've been caring these guys for years. I think the show decline with Adam, let him thirty still good for the country right, Benny PEN with you, the guy that claims he got you out of the mullet haircut. You know just some guys that could do some good work over there into the morning with their show Brad. Thank you. So much God bless you. The name of the book is use of force, pick it up available today, bookstores everywhere use of force and uh thriller from his favorite writer Brad Thor sponsor this half hour is simply safe. Burglaries happened during the day when you're at work or getting lunch. Thief is breaking into your home, don't sp and anytime during your work day, worrying about somebody breaking into your home

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