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America there's some say there is a desperate need for perspective in this country, so I think they will give some first of all black Mme Fighter name is Derek Louis. He is, he went out and he was saving Houston flood victims, including a man who insisted on saving his confederate flag, double things here, there's a black Mme fighter. He saves that guy he's not he's not asking him any questions is saving the guy, because that's what Americans do. Second of all little perspective, dude, it's it's a flag. I mean if it was Robert E Lee S flag, his actual flag. Maybe I can understand it, but if it's the one they had hanging in the window of your you know your house and probably probably probably let the flag go. I'm just saying little perspective in speaking of letting things go, and I know that this is a rhetorical questions. I know the answer: is the media? Is their life really this shallow? You seen the uproar started by political on Miladi Trump wearing five stiletto heels. First of all, let me just say this: I've been around women all my life and I dont understand all he'll thing. So don't get because to me all you ever hear is I can't wait to take these shoes off. Ok, all right sure they look nice, but I'm having to listen to you all night talk about how much your feet her. I dont get it but she's wearing filing stiletto heels. Now here's the headline that I would write. Look at Maloney Trump walking through the gold grass in five inch, stiletto heels at the White House, lawn going to the helicopter and she doesn't get stuck she'd she doesn't loses out. Is that even possible I mean I've been around all or on women? I think because I really think that was possible, but what is the media say look at how inappropriate she was when she went down to Corpus Christie and Galveston. Does anybody really think that the president was going to get his his veto shoes or is pant legs wet? Does anybody think that the president was going to go on a rescue boat in Bologna? Tromp was going to do that? Does anybody even think I mean you can make the case that the president shouldn't have gone if it hurt the rescue efforts, but it didn't because you didn't go anywhere near Houston, for the love of peat media, get over yourself, get a grip and get some perspective, my gosh! Let it go. We begin there right now, fusion of entertainment and didn't might, and so let me give you an update this, I'm a really amazing things that are going on the Texas teenagers that have saved over fifty people in a small fishing boat.

the the mattress shop owner that his throne is store open to four hundred victims of Hurricane Harvey is Like you know why you need a place to stay here, just stay at my mattress store. On a personal note, I just got a note from mercury one- and I don't even know if I'm supposed to mention this. I know I know people who run my patriot supply so they're, not the people that, like it when I mentioned things like this, but I think you should know they ve donated yesterday, thousand cases of two week. Emergency food supplies and there are also supplying twenty five hundred water filtration units to be displayed we deployed in Houston. Those things are two hundred dollars apiece, and this is the kind of stuff that you could actually take, that floodwater and purify and drink it? We ve had

little rid of the streets like literally a right out of the street. This. These are the emergency thing. People don't realize how, when water goes back, you die and you know. That was that I think the number two killer, maybe number one up until about a hundred and fifty years ago, and that was water supply? You would you know Somebody would be pooping your peeing or dying in the water, it all up the road and then you would drinking your water, was tainted And people died all the time. Cholera. Water is going to be such a problem, and As you know, I lived in Houston, you lived in Houston, it is this is going to be a nightmare for a long time, because once the water receives never dries out, never Is it the only place I've ever live? That has something called super saturation where somehow or another

like the water has humidity up in the air has a humidity over a hundred percent. I do you know how that's possible that its super saturated error and You can pray what walking out in Houston a lot of the times of the year is like you're dead, It's like you're drinking, a glass of air and it'll, never dry. How that you drinking a glass of air, you couldn't put Jeff he's trying to do the math on that when you see glass arab, be lot of water in that country D that cities never gonna drive dry out. How does. How did they stop the black mould? the other was a huge problem after Allison it's gonna, be a much bigger one. Now this is just I don't know, there's thousands of homes and water. It is never going to go away. I mean you're how many neighbourhoods and how many buildings are going to need. Remember the building you could have got

Please you! Oh no, you remember how you remember the building. Next door to the World Trade center. It was big, huge brick building? Maybe twenty stories tall? It was an old one. It was the last one to be torn down because remember this and they had a seal. It in plastic and take it apart by hand, because, is it had so much black mould in it? I remember what happened? Maybe the fire alarms tripped or something and the war, The building was drenched in water blackmail started to grow in it. It became one of the most hazardous buildings in the western hemisphere and it was, right. Next to the World Trade Center and they didn't know what to do. You couldn't imploded, you couldn't you they had to take it. part in space suits by Hand

what is the city of Houston going to be like? After this they said the average hurricane? That's category three or four, it costs about food. Four billion dollars. They did the first s. this is forty, two billion. So over ten hi, the average hurricane that hits the heads gotta, be it's gonna, be messy. It's gonna be really profound, not dimension. I mean it's not like it's gonna stop raining. We like you, know at some point there, start getting more ran again, end its that and I have to deal with new ones. Wait when you have a situation like this and turn rainy, I gotta use goes back when dealing with the city of what's a homo, Ro Pat, is it seven million the whole metro close to seven million, so seven million people how many of the seven million are actually affected in their home. do we have an estimate of that? I haven't seen one I heard it was a million homes.

so I don't know if that's true, but but a million homes, how many businesses are actually affected. Let's see if we can get somebody in the research department looked up this morning, but how many homes are actually affected, how many businesses are actually affected? How do the people go back to work out of those people, live out of those companies open their doors and by the way, the America's largest oil refinery. Just down yesterday, Now- is twenty he percent of all gasoline Yes, now fly those wishing for the oil industry to be hard heads in this crisis and who was, at the other day, young Turks guy. They are the young Turks guy. Well, congratulations! Your gas prices are going to go where up in the way already story. Do ya hear intolerance their expecting by what I think tomorrow there expecting it to be three dollars a gallon. It

to river. Was one array of nineteen twenty of the organ Laszlo YO soda. They their think in Texas The it'll be up three three dollars a gallon, so you know this is going to affect the entire country to you. can't take twenty percent of the gasoline offline and gasoline goes. I don't know if I don't know if the young Turks have done the math, but the food that's delivered to your grocery store comes in a big truck or a on a train and that chew two dozen use coal, it uses diesel, which is made out of oil, which is based in a refinery, congratulations, young Turks you're, getting exactly what you hope for now in, next few days, once we get past all of this, I'm gonna spend some time with you on the right vacations. Of this hurricane? This is

much larger than Katrina. This is does the largest most impact full hurricane in history. As you are looking at this, I want you to understand the day. on stream. If you will that we impact, not only you, but I guarantee, Vladimir Putin is getting a briefing every day on what is happening in Houston. Not because it some evil, sinister plot or anything else, Because Vladimir Putin's country was geared for a hundred dollars. a barrel of oil. When I went down to fifty, they were saying: oh well, they can make it with eighty dollars a barrel, but they ve got to get the price of the barrel of oil up otherwise is their economy will collapse worthy? opposite of Russia,

the lower the cost of oil. The better our system runs thee here: the cost of oil. Once we get over a hundred dollars our economy are on the way we ve structured, our house loans and our credit cards and our car loans. Everything else since its over a hundred dollars a barrel. It starts to hurt the: U S, stained. One hundred and twenty one hundred and thirty dollars a barrel cut. Axes, our economy. That's why two thousand eight happened. We had all kinds of stuff that required everything to remain exactly the same and nothing to go wrong will soon is asked prices started to creep up. He couldn't handle it. Russia's, the opposite when ass prices go down and their hovering around fifty. They become desperate and unstable because as we close the refineries

are still producing the oil, but we ve taken Twenty per cent of the refinement of that oil offline? So what happens? All the barrels that we are purchasing now begin to back up now, they're gonna sit on ships somewhere in the Gulf WAR off coasts and they're going to sit there until there is an opening. For that oil to get into a refinery or into an oil reserves. that oil reserve. That's gonna, be a glut which means the price of oil will plummet. which means people In the Middle EAST and in Russia will become more desperate. because of this hurricane You will see over the next few days as we start to line this up, and I hope to be able to really give you some in The analysis on this beginning. Next week,. You will see the ramifications of what is happening in Texas.

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it's gonna have a chain reaction that you're gonna probably feel in your community, and I am am humbled by what you have already done and how many people are just giving like five dollars Yesterday I got a email when people and we're gonna talk to Jason, who is down yesterday in Houston. He said he could not believe the number of people who were driving their own personal cars and there and bringing their but from all over the country, and he said they were just leaving them. car and as they were, leaving they were like by car this new. There were never going to see their car again Jason almost got stuck a couple of times because their driving their their driving around in there, trying to find a place to launch the boats, but the water

is coming in so fast that Lee the car- you know when they drive down a street if they can't launch it there by the time they were turning around to try to get out the same way, there were blocked mean they almost got trapped. Yesterday just you know they didn't have a boat they We are following the guys who had the boat at one point. They got separated their like. We are worst we're gonna, we're gonna, be asking them to rescue us. We need more boats. and We also We also need, for help on communication devices the satellite phones that we dispatched yesterday, unfortunately not waterproof and so we're losing a lot of satellite phones. The communication devices are going down. We really need your support to be able just to communicate. This is,

a long way from being over Have to remember the waters were receding in with Katrina really quickly And you are able to go by this time, They were going door to door and they were spray painting, exe numbers on doors of how many people were dead in those homes. we're not even there yet this a long long way from being over, and we really need your support, it mercury one dot, org, we were trying to be as transparent as we possibly can These are you know exactly where the money is I'll. Give you an update on on what will happen. yesterday, but we have, I think it's object. Barbecue yesterday, finally, was able to get to the

the location which is the converter, drive around provincialism the convention center. They are they're, the ones that are going to be supplying twenty five thousand meals a day. Last night they finally were able to fire things up. I think they serve Twenty five hundred last night they'll be to ten or fifteen thousand by today, and by tomorrow, will be at twenty five thousand meals. in a real moment of graciousness we have offered when their done. They can come back and stage here a barbecue facility. Actually, that wants to come and stage themselves here, Well, then, in time here but clear over the parking lot, there lots of her. So you know that just think of this. This is all donations. Think of the amount of beef you need and pork made, thank God we're in Texas think of the amount of food for twenty five thousand people, breakfast lunch and dinner at that one

location. If you can help us. Five bucks makes a world of difference. Go to mercury, one dot, Org mercury, one dot, Org back in a minute, you're were listening to the Glen. That programme. Authorities breaks so for this in Burma, Texas authorities found a shivering popular. clinging to the body of her drowned mother, in a canal in Southeast Texas, after the woman tried to carry her child to safety from the floods. a witness, saw the woman take her eighteen month old daughter, and tried to walk to safety.

The current of the flooded drain canal next to the parking lot. So, both of them away. The I was holding onto the floating woman when police and fire rescue team in the boat caught up with him. A half mile downstream. When you hear stories like that, it makes stories about politics, grotesque, doesn't it. We have such a great opportunity right now to put into perspective. Our life and what's worth fighting for What's worth standing up for an hour, will tell you that if it doesn't involve

Your children in your family is just not worth your time, That's one of the greens that we have right now that we feel is this it's. Just political strife it is, it is the case the d grind of every in changing and you not knowing what to count on anymore. You not knowing You know, there's no, there's no one to help sort things through anymore. There's there's! Nothing We even know to be true until we have something like this. I hate to say it this way, because It'll be misinterpreted, but a man Recall is nothing more than a change of perspective and. I'm so happy to see

there are so many Americans that are looking at the church hence to serve and the and they are having a change of perspective and going I dont want to be those people anymore. I this is where I need to be. This is what's important. When you see the number, the sheer number of people interesting to see, if there's any kind of study that's being done at all and in Texas of war This hurricane is costing the businesses in the state of Texas outside side of the affected area in and power. How many companies I know ours is how many Japanese are sacrificing people And resources

and sending them down to Houston. We are we're having a drop off point for our neighbours. You know here at the studio lot, who can come in and bring water and food or you know not food, but to give the list. I think it's up economic dot com. But we're asking people to come and bring the baby diapers and everything else. this because the staff, so many members of the staff, or just like I'm on Friday, I'm going down, I'm gonna help and We need to deliver stuff, and so this is just something that they put on themselves. How many are doing that? How many people are just take? I've got a boat, I'm going down when you go down and you see the sheer number of people. You see the video yesterday of the the you making the human chain to get the woman who was in labour and having a baby.

Getting her to safety. Do we have the video agents? Well, there it is or their. So If you happen to be watching the broadcast, on the blaze. you'll see they're making a a human chain this war. Is in labour. They aid to get her to dry ground. And everybody in the neighborhood. Pulls together, everybody who was there I saw they saw video over. The guy in a wheelchair, who was to his chest in water, Was he gonna do people in a boat just strangers from their part of the state come up, go check that

find him in their Benjamin was going through his mind. While I mean we have to put in perspective. One of the things that is the biggest need at the shelters. Are charging stations we We forget about this you call well if your house has been flooded your fuses popped a long time ago, so This point of view are still in your house unless you are very, very smart, you, you're out of power batteries are gone in your phone and everything else. Unless you ve been turning on just a check but most likely you. plan on still being in this situation. If this started on Saturday, you weren't thinking that, on Wednesday, I'm still going to be in this situation.

What was that guy thinking, as he was sitting in a home by himself, was Wilshire in his wheelchair. and the water is coming up and He still had power and could hear. and then I could hear the reports of the rain that was coming another. What was it? Twenty inches last night was expected. Can you imagine. I'm dead and there's no place to go. And you hear a boat pull up? your front door. And somebody opened the door and say: is there anybody in here Imagine what that felt like to that guy is there Anything else that we should be doing. When we started the Nazareth Fund. two years ago somebody asked me this.

Just the other day, what started there. That was me sitting in my office. or a sitting in my studio and- Johnny more had just come by and he had said There is a huge problem. We these. these questions are in use, energy is, are just being crucified and sold into slavery. Annie. We're trying to get these fifty families out he and Mark Burnett we're trying to get. I think fifty families out and They needed a million dollars to do it, and I I sit here: help you and that will will will raise a million dollars will get them out. but what happened just before. That was the turning point I was on television. And there was a nun who

was trying to get to the United States just to testify in front of Congress on what was really happening to these Christians. And we had a Skype interview with her. and she was living in this this container cargo container and it was in the middle of a rack- and it was in early August in the desert in Iraq. Now. Imagine living your life in a metal box in the middle of the iraqi desert in August. I don't think that's a very cool. We is no windows, there's nothing and she's broad, a her Skype on phone in the middle of this container. she was talking about how she needed help to get into the United States, but People needed to hear the message, and she was talking about everything and she wasn't complaining

but her situation at all and it was weird cause. I almost had tunnel vision. I stop listening to her, I'm just looking at hers in this metal box and I'm starting to imagine what just her life is like. And that she's not asking for anything from her for her she's, not saying hey, help me help me. She saying I gotta get to the United States, because the people here are suffering not me the people here around me are suffering. and I thought to myself what the hell am I doing with my life. I am sitting in this air conditioned studio. And here's this woman actually standing up in time that is beginning to look like them nineteen thirties in several places around the world. I'm sitting here doing what. And she said- thank you so much for helping me get the word out.

and I love you saw that episode, but I just broke down not unusual. For me. I broke down and I said. I'm sorry sister, but I haven't really even listen to it you're, even saying cuz, I just realized what am I doing with my life, what Are we doing. That was the moment for me that I decided to get involved. and there's been some other things here recently I told you recently, and we'll go over it. This fall as we go on, but I want you to know. I look I've told you about the Nazis rising up ten years ago I told you about the communist and the Nazis and showed you that this has happened in the nineteen hunt, the early ninetys hunters under Wilson, it under,

it happened under Sdr as well, the Nazis and the communist they fight and they closed down shipping's and they try to close down ports and they try to close down. capitalism, both of them. Both sides and Americans have to be good enough to navigate between those. Two things told you about that for ten years ago,. and I've I've warned you for a long time. These things are come and when they do. They will be overwhelming and even the very elect will be lost. Even the people who you love and a door and really get it. They're gonna be lost. It's gonna be overwhelming. as I said to you over the last probably month,. Something deep inside of me- has changed. The seasons have changed, we are in a new era. We are, we have finished, writing the beginning

Of what America and the world is going through, and we are now writing the all important middle. this is when we act Billy decide. Where we going you're watching a three act play The first shows you the life the people had before. And in the conflict. And the second act is them going through the conflict and it Lee to a pivot point or a choice. Curtain then act three. how do they solve it were now oh entering act too, and I urge you to look at the possibilities in front of us. I urge the good possibilities. I urge you to look at the. The the wake up, call that we're getting right now.

This is going to go back to politics. Just like it did after September, eleventh It's going to go back and it's probably going to be worse than then it was a week or so ago? This is a chance for you to strengthen yourself to fines. Shelter, defined, p, to find your heart again and figure out. Ok, if I don't want to go back to feeling that way, how I guard my heart: how do I stay there because The lions are coming again too rip us apart and use politics economic strife to do it, get involved. and allow yourself. Sounds so weird.

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What does this mean to you? You know a little bit what it means to the people and we have amazing stories of of people pitching in and becoming better than they were the day before, because they have a purpose in life and its purpose is to do something. Noble. Let's go save people what's happening in Texas is truly miraculous, but the costs are. I don't even think people are really yet thinking about what this could mean to the globe, we're here to tell you some of the Good NEWS by granting a lot of the Good NEWS, retail but a lot of the heroes, but we are also going to give you perspective on what this actually will mean to you in the coming months, and we begin there right now, fusion of entertainment and enlightenment. We know the cost of where we don't. We don't use it. We know the cost of the human tool, but

I think we do not until those floodwaters recede will we be able to see how many of you we're trapped and just could not get out. Pat worked at Cape here see in Houston for a long time when Alison came by people, don't understand Dallas and Houston they both have an underground system in between all the store, so people, it's kind of like Minneapolis, where they build the bridges over the streets, so no has to go out in the cold. the opposite, is true here in Dallas and Houston, to avoid the heat to avoid the heat they have an underground downtown and last time when Alison hit, which was nothing like this? You forget how many people died in the tunnels, but it was a lot I use and twenty or people died overall. I think, if I remember correctly, for Malleson, but many of those were in the tunnel system? and so what we want get trapped down there and I dont know they ve been able to get down there and see. If, if anybody is, is there

as of yet cause that you know the waters are still rising so they the rain, though, to stop now to slow down. I think they're only expecting another inch or so, and then by Thursday. There might even have some son, So there is some light at the end of the tunnel, but on tonnage is still a long way to go. So here's some things that you need to know, because this is how this truly effects you one you can allow this to affect you in a positive or negative way. Anyone who is trying to engage you in a negative conversation at this point flee from and I in that, even if, if, if even if the blaze or her somehow another Glenn back dot com story is out and it's a negative spin on it, flee from it, don't read. It you have to fill yourself while

we can with the hope of what, things are really like not garbage of what people are saying we're like and there are people that just will not give up. When I give you a good example of this tool hosting you can think about what ever you want about Joe Joel is a really good guy. I really believe he is sincere in his belief now. He doesn't look sincere because ease. got that smile on his face all the time and is like Joel. You can't be that happy. All time he's like I am happy and I really believe he is and it pisses me off, but That's why he is Kay he grew up in a preachers family. His father was a bigger preacher than he was. He didn't want to become the preacher. His father pass this on. I think his brother decided not to do it. You know the story, don't you and his brothers, something happened with his brothers, rather decided not to do it, so he.

We decided at the last minute. You know, I think, This is what I'm salsa do, but I most do differently than my father. And he started this church and it's a lot of push back because he's not a gospel guy. He's much more of a you know the positive thinking, guy, think and it will be cut and it will become clear thinking, considers himself kind of a gateway to Christianity. He does does, and there is a good place for that. But a lot of Christians don't like it because he sees not a preacher. That do knows. Ok lie get that, but there's lotta people that want what you're doing and there's a lot of people that will never go to church, because that's the message that they're, ready for or want that, They need an easier apply. It to. My life. Show me how this affects me to day mess and that's what Joel does

Now you can agree or disagree with it, but it's not my cup of tea all the time. Sometimes I really like it but it is what it is you think, he's a good man, so. What's happening to him right now. Well, one he's a being abandoned by Christians. He is often an island by himself because there's a lot of preachers who just like that Joel's Dean Guy, because he doesn't talk about the Bible enough, ok, well, Congratulations on knowing the mind of God. Congratulations because I didn't get that message that we should abandon these people because they don't they don't do it exactly the way. I think it should be done. get that message, but if you did congratulations, their abandoning him, because they don't see him as a gateway to anything. But a veil think is wrong.

But that's why Joel Holstein is having the problem that he's having now Joel Holstein is is, as is back against the wall and he may never recover in what place of being a real uniting figure in Houston, again. Why because he bought the compact centre, which is where the Rockets used to play right path, evidence of this huge arena and he bought it for eighty million dollars and he transformed into a big big mega church. it's quite impressive and People come from all over the world to worship their and listen to him speak Et Cetera, Et Cetera, and they do a lot of good. They do a lot of good compact centre is, a d a back up

to the George, our Brown convention centre. So when the George, our Brown Convention centre is full they just need a place for people to sleep you gotta gateway or to our Lakewood. The church. Well! The story is that Joel, hosting, is not over his church to people. will. The city has not asked him to infer the city. He doesn't have the resources that the job- your brown convention centre has so send the people to the georgian Brown conventions that are because that's where they can be fed. That's really can shower. That's where the city is all set up to go and when that is full. He has a deal with the city and he's been in touch with the city every day and liquid was in danger of flooding at the very beginning at the very beginning now because people picture of the church

didn't, have any water around it. They're lying that evil that evil, Joel Osteen just get rich and about he doesn't care he's not a christian and no one is coming to his defence. For They came for Joe all, and I said nothing because I wasn't a member of his group gonna pick us off one by one. now? Here's Joel fur last night.

He was on with George Stefano plus George herself into the building was inaccessible. The flood rather floodwaters went down and communist building flooded in two thousand and one and had ten feet of water in the lower ball, and we put a flood gates and kept it kept it from going over is only have put away, but I think George, the narrative, is, they really want to take people he entered the we didn't open in time is totally not true. We were we were here, people we were shelter, we were taking people as soon as there is. The floodwaters receded when several people came here to take in hand but tat. The city has a shelter for miles from here. We work with the city all the time and when they are so when their shelter was totally pull, they started bringing people over here, and here we are again today, do in it like we did in two thousand and one when we house three thousand people, so I don't know. I think somebody created that narrative that somehow we were high and dry, and that is true. This building is a safety issue. People in from the very beginning, do seem to be up and running now that any lessons learned from this well, I think it always is, but I think George, sometimes it's always somebody's. Not in this situation, where we have nobody in this facility, we had. We were fearing that it would flood the less. We reduce put people in it right at the beginning, but you would you know we would probably be. You know, do some things differently. Obviously, but my niece was stranded right across the street from this building the first two days at a flood on one day, the flood on the freeway, so it was, it was being flood in it affected. All of the people that run this facility is well better. What we ve been here sixty years helping people wouldn't be here long after all, this does down helping these people as well so

there's nothing. You can do with that. When that Twitter grass fire starts, it just ranges out of control and when people say it on twitter it. So it's true if twitters said it was so than then itself than it. So then it happened. That's the way is purely somebody called him a liar on twitter and everybody else, except on that and then pretty soon it's out of control and you tell anybody anything case. So Let me let me let me go here. We have. Might want there we go. So let me go here, so we have a problem with her microphones. So let me let me take you: here? Why does that matter? One? It doesn't but the twitter war does not affect your life at all. Why would you get involved in something in some that you don't know

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and we're going to need each other, this is one of the reasons why please heal Relationships use this moment to heal relationships. bull with flood insurance. They usually or buying policies backed by the federal government and the National Flood Insurance programme? I This is one of the worst things that we have ever done as a government in encourages people to build million dollar homes were right on the coastline and then they don't wouldn't build those houses there, because no bank, no insurance company, would give them the Insurance in case of a flood or a wash out or whatever so now, bank will give them alone, while still In the federal government pay, we want to be able to back them up. and so, when their wiped out, what happens? We, the taxpayers, are paying for those homes, the probe already owes the: U S, Treasury more than twenty four billion dollars just from the press.

Yes, disasters experts now are projecting the damages of this storm, just the initial estimates for wind damage alone, and remember wind was not the problem in Houston, The initial estimates for wind damage alone insurance claims, they believe, will reach as high as six billion dollars. Yesterday Fanny may everybody's favorite mortgage company owned by you. The federal government in the taxpayer Fanny may said that more than thirty six thousand homes with mortgages guaranteed by you, the taxpayer In areas heavily affected by Harvey. They believe that they have five,

point. One billion dollars in unpaid balances on the homes that are most likely gonna have to be bulldozed Well, don't worry, the bank will get the insurance money well first, while it's not a bank, it is, the federal government playing Bank so they'll, lose their money. No, they will because they'll be covered by insurance and the insurance company is you. The ramifications of this The dominoes that could fall now this week. I will start to talk to you about why. Anyone who is saying good. These oil companies are gonna, get there's too ten per cent of the refinery load now So yesterday, though, the country's largest refinery shut down? Because of this that,

means. We are now refining twenty percent less of the oil every single day to turn it into gasoline hearing Texas. At the beginning of the week, gas was who, twenty they say? by tomorrow or the next day. It will be a three dollars what's happening to the gas prices in your tongue. Happening to the gas prices all around the country its head, putting because twenty per cent of the refineries that take oil and make it into gasoline are now off line, and we don't know when they're coming back. so that'll drive your cost up, but here another thing that nobody is explaining to anybody, that's good! Cause the price of oil to go through the floor because oil is the raw material and we

of pool anti of that raw material that we already bought last week is on ships and still arriving Is being sitting out on the coast on these giant oil tankers waiting to come in to the port to offload the refinery there's no place to offload because the refineries aren't refining any of it. So now we have this huge glut of oil. Which means that we I need to buy oil for a while, until yet those oil refineries back on line and burn through this glut of oil good, for America price of oil through the floor, but it's down. Forty fifty fifty goes. those thirty dollars per barrel, good for the Middle EAST and that certainly. A good for Vladimir Putin, the These are the kinds of things that we're gonna be looking into and we're.

following because you need to understand the ramifications of what does what what is really affected in. What's going to actually affect me, forget about politics, what's gonna actually affect me and in the meantime, we're gonna try to do everything we can to keep your heart right where it needs to be. Were all Americans, let's come together back programmes. programme. We just had some really critical information that we should pass on to you. We hate to disappoint the audience, but sometimes people are disappointed. This one comes in front twitter at will. The Sioux I was

disappointed. Jeff, you didn't go cover the storm. He won't blow away and high winds and he's very buoyant in case of flooding. So I got used to really why then Jason Jason went out, who is had writer researcher for the Glinda programme and were glad to have you back safe and sound? You and John, when out yesterday, you couldn't actually get close to anything, because you were dumb enough to drive a car. We even has car intact that is headed towards Houston. Yes, then, we run a layer of very high mobility. Handy there right, It seemed like a good idea at the time: yeah yeah, that's so we we didn't expect to have to actually maneuver. When we get down there. In this sunday we were going to jump into the vehicles with the rescue Europe that we are worthy of it. They had full on boat crews. They had tonnes a year, all that stuff so like at the last minute. They're, like guys, you fall, was convoy down to the actual, both put an area, and you can as follows down

Mozilla we're like ok, we'll try. We got we are, so we start going down towards K taxes, which was the hardest hit area at that time yesterday and we got maybe when a Katy was the hardest hit area, you anyhow the lean yeah. They wisely pull up a map that morning and they are like these are all the areas some programme they're. Using of all our lives, people throwing it was a really oh, my gosh is of huge summer. It is the main suburb. If you were in Houston is the main suburb and its a fairly uninstall like hoity toity, but it's it's it's affluent in parts of it are very nice parts. At a very nice, the feeling driving down there was kind hearted described. As you see, though I were kept going through. My head was like watching independence day or you know, like alien invasion move media has there are tons of, We're coming out, there was only rescue vehicles and like police and stuff like that, going in all the radio stations most of the radio stations were tuned to the emergency broadcast, thanks to you,

so you're saying that as far as our driving down I asked you can actually see that we would get it to a certain area at we broke apart from the main group, and we returned work way through the back roads we It was an area and then all of a sudden you'd see you know all the way up to the house is all the way up to the front door? Is the waters go creeping in the waters were sleeping over like you could just see the tops of trucks and just gotten stranded and somebody's intersection did not move so she Jason as you were, going down there. You know the big controversy over the weekend. Was you know the city in the state had an argument, evacuate, evacuate, evacuate the argue and from the city was not know where we shouldn't evacuated, because it might cause more problems. It was not We need to do it yet. not mistaken kind of the same thing that happened in New Orleans however, that may have turned out to be a great blessing, because you would have had probably a million people trapped in

our cars on these highways and nowhere to go. That's would happen. You know in all in all evaluations and the last time it happened in Houston, both were stuck in traffic. They ran out of gas and families we're trapped in there. now imagine five, six, seven, eight someplace twelve feet of water, would that have been much worse. Do think, oh, my gosh, yes a week it I mean, I think it has to go off that point. I think they were doing it right had seem like it was efficient. The way they are doing it. They had two stages. As we are listening to the emergency broadcast, there was the There was the suggested evacuation saying that ok in these areas, water level is rising. We suggest you evacuate, but it was a mandatory the place that were dire. Those were under mandatory evacuation, so it was going and like stages. So you can be. There are certain areas you have to get out mantle evacuation. They would leave so those with,

people that we were seeing in a prison down the freeway are getting out of there but it was managed the other places they were just. We suggest you evacuate. That was to cut a surreal because then you can see how people? Actually you wonder you know you when you see these news broadcasts, how these people wanted they stay in their homes. But how did it get to this point? I can actually get that now, because you go into some these villages in the outskirts of Katy and using these neighborhoods pet, they're very they're, just like our neighborhoods in earlier than ever, that I live in. There's people walking their dogs down the down the sidewalk there. Looking at the waters rise, you know, there's kids, you know building little toys and it's going into it. They didn't feel threatened at the time What water is gradually gradually rising, but I get sympathise with them cause I'm like well, if it's not really,

Coming up to my door and prominent leaving either accept all my stuff in here revenue and through many storms and several hurricanes, and never flooded and data, so especially Katy residents would probably be like what's going to happen here, so I was just talking to a guy about cause. I can't take that tornadoes here anymore. I just get AIDS, it freaks my children, our and so on. build a storm, so shelter, and I want to build a storm shelter also for the library that I have. I don't want it sucked up into the sky and so I'm talking to this guy and in he said you know, don't build the. Where do you want to build a nice, and I don't know where go and he said. Well. I suggest you build it in your garage and I said well way why why and he said as if you build it, where you have to go outside think of this year, we it'll be in the middle of the night, I have to get everybody up. And then they'll you'll have to go outside, get dressed, it'll be raining. You know blah blah blah blah and then

Nothing will happen and then you'll get wet coming back in and then you go to bed and what will happen. One, the storms down the road. You will say to the kids: you know what let's stay here in bed and will all go if it gets bad and then yours up into the sky and the same thing happens here with these with two hurricanes. Is you on through over and over again, nothing happens and you're, not seeing it doesn't connect with you that that's gonna happen to you or your neighborhood and all of us and you are driving yesterday and you would drive down streets and you are trying to get places and The time you went, ok, well, that's block! You turn around and you'd realise I'm trying I can't get out now that was the most claustrophobic feeling that is in that's in that's what the rescuers are having to put up with two I've never heard of this and and then some these and similar situations casually it like. After that, The waters had risen, they promised levelled off, and then rescue workers go in

still rising even up to this day. So as we are getting a certain points, water risings water was rising behind us. So we're like what How do we get out here? At one point? We just stop us either road scratched, our heads and said here we might be stuck for a night like this cars gettin swept away, the coolest on that, when that little a of trying to get out, I saw where the coolest things I saw out there. So we got to us. point just before we had the evacuate get out of there too, where we to a point where turn around the water level was rising up about halfway up under one of the homes, you- saw a long line of cars. People orders pulling up in the people's driveways require all these cars pulled up in the people's driveways in yards. What it was was, as that was come at the point of no return, all the neighborhood, the people in the residents of that these homes they were driving up basically metaphorically, to the fire. They had whatever they had, they had blow up boats, they had floated, they had canoes and there are like this way and they were going right up there and there were no one in them in their own and there are going to help out their neighbours,

chill saying that I want to stay there and watch. But again we would have gotten swept up with the two, but that's what they were willing to do for their neighbors range and there was in their driving their car and everybody's walking away go and now my car's lost. Oh yeah is, as I guess, not gonna get that than ever to see that again, get through remarkable Jason! Thank you! So much briefly, the company had run adjacent scary than care Clever exploit our sponsored oars, wants it to serve our is simply safe, simply safe home security. The biggest summer sale ever is ending this weekend. right now. You get a hundred dollars off, simply saves special summer package You been busy view we haven't had chanced to check out the sale. Do it now It has everything you need to protect your home, an arsenal of security, sensors to secure every door and every window it comes with a pen button and blaring extra siren, a wireless connection to authorities police dispatch.

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later programme, though eight eight, eight, seventy seven back one of our one of our producers, Natasha, is pretty guilty. Today I wanted to bring around because he said she feels really guilty because she knows said she should have really been paying attention to the flood cassettes where your heart is, but instead you were watching something on age, homes, less time seasons, and I have a MAC. Riper Yathrib channel has meant guilty pleasure in Syria. Pillars a year, not wondered how clever men show on educational, yourselves, H, H, H, home soon case, you dont know, he's America's first serial killer. We did a great episode on his story. That is just for nominal this to you that you don't know this story is incredible. And they history channel just took his great great grandson, because this rigour grandson. Has this theory that he was.

actually jack the ripper yes and is an eight episode series and they go through and Fine, the similarities between each homes and Jack, the ripper and- say: there's any real, hard evidence, but the speculative evidence is pretty cool. They were both doctors and they both killed in a similar fashion, very surgical, clean killings very very somewhere, and the eyewitness accounts from Jack the Ripper in London. I suggest that he was actually an american tat. I never before in the hands of the handwriting samples from both of them are also somewhere. They. They took the Henry samples to an expert, and they couldn't conclude that there are the same person, but they couldn't roll it out.

Also, some, like English phrase, is so notice. You dont know this guy. This guy killed first just for money and then I think it actually started. We was young, it started with a kind of Pleasure he got away with killing his best friend when he was young and then it just build from there, but he would kill people and he would dissolve their bodies and then sell the skeletons for we know science, for you know via the classroom ears a skeleton. So a lot of those early skeletons we're from him. and he kept getting away with it, and then he built this toward a horrible torture chamber and killing slaughterhouse in Chicago built it as a hotel and it was diabetes. truly diabolical. But when he was buried he was buried under. I don't know how many pounds of concrete, because He had it in his will that,

He wanted to make sure nobody could get into his crypt and due to his body what he had been doing, everybody else's body and in a strange turn of events, they actually honoured that Did they dug him up on last night's up at four seasons: banality they showed at each chumps being examined and I don't want to give anything away what I learned it. No. I know that I want to have to explain it and what he found inside they Jeff is Jeff. Is the great great grandson, Jeff Margin, death magic, much and he's a greater grandson. He's gonna be joining us here in just a couple of minutes. Any is a fascinating, fascinating story. We ve book this a week's weeks ago, and because it happened last night, we're not gonna cancel it, but it is safe. It's a really remarkable story? And if you don't know the story of H, H homes, just

or to the blazed com, or I think it Glenn backed our come to. You can find it and we're probably posted up, if start already, today after the front page in the story of H, H homes from his story it's pretty remarkable, pretty remarkable soap. We have limited thanks something. I presume So let me tell you this story: seventeen year Old, Thomas Edwards, three friends, Richard Liam And then his brother Declan. They range from seventeen to fifteen years old. There all high school students at straight Jesuit College Preparatory School in Houston. So here's what happened. Tom wakes up in the morning, and he see the massive flooding Now he has a truck himself and it's nearly completely submerged

all of the one story: houses all around him, have water all the way up to their doors so Imagine seventeen years old. what do you do? What are your kids do at this point. He wasn't feeling sorry for himself. He didn't even think about himself he didn't think? Oh well, there goes my truck, what he did is he called his friends and said: hey? Can we get together? We have to go pick up my best friends, dad's fishing boats and let's go bring it back, so Here's what they did they they put. The boat under the trailer they drove it back to their neighbourhood and once it began to float. They could hear peep screaming they got in the boat, they start going and they still started hearing people screaming and so

They took a paddle board behind them on the boat, and they grab onto the paddle board and we will Thank you to the Kroger's down the street, and so they were pulling people out and they were doing this all day. This was the only boat in the neighborhood they didn't until two o clock in the morning going back and forth back and forth until the rescuers, the quote first responders showed up they saved, Fifty people, while you don't I have faith in the use of America. That's the Youth of America. They just haven't necessarily had the chance to do it they haven't had the chance. We shelter them from everything. Don't Smith, the fifteen sixteen and seventeen year olds they just saved fifty people.

and they did it without mommy and daddy. They did it without the with did it without the federal government giving him a licence to do it. they did it on their own. This is who we are ass, Americans, and this is actually who the next generation is. If you look the ratings of the visa. May the video music awards from MTV they been cut in half in the last few years. speculation. Now is they lost another million viewers little in last weekend's video music wards speculation is, because these just They don't want to see all the divisiveness, their tire. of the lecture of what's cool and what's not by a bunch of singing hypocrites.

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There is a remarkable story in american history that most people have never heard of its America's first real ceiling serial killer. His name was h, H homes. We did a episode on this, probably about a year or so ago, on H, H, homes and the blood that he left behind around the time of the Chicago worlds. There will, there has been a history channel, show a series that has been going on called the american Ripper and it was written by the great grandson of the serial killer, H, H homes. He has a theory that our first serial killer was also Jack, the ripper and last night in the series finale they actually exude the body of h, H, homes and he's here to tell us what exactly was found and how that's turning out- and we begin there right now- fusion of entertainment and didn't might imminent. Jeff budget is with us a great grandson of H, H, homes and the author of the book, bloodstains bloodstains, the book dot com. Well,

the programme Jeff could have you thank you very much is another glimpse, so Jeff. I've been waiting to talk to you, for I mean I've. I am fascinated and horrified. By your great grandfather. At what point in your life, You find out, you were related to him You know before I ask your question. I wanted to make one comment about your your story, your narration about homes that I spent the weekend going over ads. You think you captured who homes was better than it has ever been done before, and I wanted to say Bravo while now, yet you know I'm totally totally from the heart. I thought I when I was fourteen years old, my grandfather told the family, the horrible secret that he'd kept to himself, including my grandmother about our horrible ancestor, did debts through with you hold, you feel like holy cow,

I was expecting California lawyer, try a lawyer at the time. I I gave that all up my life Just turned upside down, I save my marriage barely, but I to find out what was true in what was legend. And, as you know, doing work on homes. The more you dig into this story about this evil genius, the more strange it gets, Yeah he is, it. Is it so strangely tied to the one of the greatest brightest spots of the of the eighteen hundreds, the Chicago expedition it right down the street, we're seeing these incredible feats of what America's accomplishing just feeble. Down here. this incorrect, all serial killer. Who built this? Oh tell of horrors. Can you do you want to go into that? Just a little bit so people Pretend you don't know who your great grandfather was

Yeah he was as you as you so accurately stated He was America's first quota on cereal, Pillar and first psychopath debate? They invented those terms for him. He was so horrible right and he, invented a ability, They now called the murder castle or factory of death which, as you noted, from the Paris will, you could see the top of the hotel from the world spare and he put up lonely lady. Is that had come from all over the country to visit the spectacle of the world's spare and I try to explain to people explaining what it meant. they ve been like. I consider him like a lion over the Savanna in Africa, watching the herds of gazelle, and I think I do That's a mistake: people make Landy, they try to consider him. No one of them the normal serial killer, free, read over and over abounds with a different man. This was different. No, he was

he was. I M hate to use this word for him, but he was brilliant. May he he did stock his prey. He knew exactly what he was doing. and so cold and calculus and the way he built this murder castle. He was he would turn people away, women would come in and name we know have. You know to women are three women or whatever a guy would come in, and he say we're all full. But if you are a woman by yourself you definitely gonna room and can describe a little bit about the murder castle in the way he set traps up and viewing stations and you know what was going on there, yeah If someone would like to go accurately into the actual architecture of the building, my friend John Brown, you wrote a book that I think best described it, but you you have a building where someone would walk in the lobby,

as a normal hotel and be giving a room? If the doktor considered her his next victim What they would place are in a room where there were gas stance that we could either render her unconscious or sixty eight her and then his assistants, and he would send her down a shoot to the basement where he would proceed too No, I mean fashions I tried to explain this as our real american Frankenstein and and people as you, when they they deny that that kind of thing is possible in America. Well, it was What do you mean our american Frankenstein Wooden bench methods of surgery on these victims. He would conduct experiment in torture, he actually had a rack where he struck the young lady to it tried to impregnate her so that he could see if he could evolve

a taller rays of human beings. That's that's what we're dealing with cars! So let me can I go back to the first question Jeff when you have somebody like that in your gene pool. Did you go through periods where you're, like is there any of that in me? If and I knew I was different- I never had I never, Out of murdering anyone, But I knew that you had a temper. I had. anglers I had visions that words wholesome. I Candide to write those office just normal reactions of an american mail, but then my grandfather, told me the secret and I started researching the hundreds of book, written about homes. I, those

those tendencies I had. I could see they. They had a basis, It was an origin to them. Now now I dealt with them in choices. He obviously me different choices and that's what I tried to capture in my book bloodstains. So the guys who are the people that were helping him in the murder castle. Tell me about him. Well, that's one of the most interesting part through the whole story that has had been captured. He had assistance, law abiding citizens who he turned into balance? Cole murderers that actually carried on some of his actions even after he was dead. Oh my gosh am- and I think that's that one of the things I admired about your synopsis of homes, how how we need it, dig a little deeper into the story. I I think Glenn. If we

studying homes more precisely, we might be able to prevent this from happening in the future. Why, when you say that don't think we understand his his mentality. We tend to write it up as a psychosis, Sir he's a psychopath. Those terms that we use that mean very little in my opinion, that again literally were invented for him. Yeah because they couldn't describing and this mind of his wife. While we want to believe he was sick quote, I think it's more towards the evil side of the equation, and that, as he said himself, he was born but the devil in him. So If I remember it's been a while, since I I've done that episode, but if I remember rightly, he had pierced blue eyes and will end and was quite the charmer.

Oh yeah, hundreds of mistresses, as you said three or four wives, he could seduce almost any woman, he laid his eyes on and these women while beside Its being seduced often became part of his cons around Chicago and eyes, I have often thought of digging a little deeper into the story and writing about the women I fell in love with homes and in one of the New York Times articles at the trial as you know that the jury came back, rendered him guilty and the judge determined he was he put to death. He reporter mention that four or five of these women women stood up in the jury. Audience and actually had crocodile tears rolling down their cheeks ass. He was led on even when they knew what he was glad sober, there's a killers

one more thing before we leave and in go into a different chapter, his death, you just you just had his body exuberant, ass, an able get into that, but also you have it sorry that he is the literal jack ripper over in London will get into that. But let me make one more stop here. Owned several buildings in Chicago and one of them was a concrete factory. they'd never sold any concrete? Why do you think don't beyond that. Exactly why here that he used it to dispose of bodies? he put a body into a block of concrete and dump it into the Chicago River. As use as you correctly stated, he never sold in the concrete, despite owning a factory which which made concrete. How many people do you think doing your search because I've never been able to put a number but how many in your research do you think he was actually responsible for killing You know, that's that's a question that has gone forever. You have, you, have historians state a nine

thirteen he admitted to twenty seven, although some of those were found to be still alive after, I think an end when you get into his memoirs when he lied about everything he said and that's that's the hard part to take two accuracy and Back but in my opinion, he killed over two hundred two hundred people how many, how many were tortured and how long did some of those last no idea, ok, so you start your journey and it takes you to some pretty amazing places places my great grandfather may not have actually been hung that may not He his body in the crypt underneath the ground will get to we will examine the body in what you found is pretty stunning. Here Second, but it also took you across the ocean to London.

And you found some pretty solid evidence, nothing rock solid, but from some pretty solid circles actual evidence that Jack the ripper who people believed at the time may have been an American was actually your great grandfather. we'll talk about that here and a second when we come back first, our sponsor half hours, liberty, safe liberties, Labour day sale going on now, where you can save big on liberties number one rated safe, the law can series even save up to six hundred and eighty box on the big Lincoln. Fifty that's what I have my house: that's what Mercury one has for all of these. Artifacts. We have big Lincoln. Days from Liberty safe, they are the best bill. If they are not going anywhere. nobody's opening them, you can drop The number one competitor on a liberty, the Competitor- will open up its doors as it is it's as it falls on top of a liberty. Safe, nothing happened

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Your list into the Glen Back programme. We are having a just a fascinating conversation with Jeff budget. He is the great grandson of each age homes, America's first serial killer, if you do not know who h H. Homes is I'm running the Eve Lee his story, episode We did over a year ago and age homes tonight, on the blaze, seven p m. His bone, chilling plot, fascinating you ve never heard an american story like this one confined the book. Bloodstains bloodstains, the book dot com. There was an eight episode. Title show called the american Ripper and this, goes to the great grand sons theory. That maybe my great grandfather was Jack, the ripper. What made you think of this first Jeff

yeah and others have said it straight right off when it is not a maybe to me he was Jack, the ripper this, what I used to do for a living and while I can't conclude, prove it. I don't think, there's any doubt that if you go If you google right now, and you- Google, h h homes and Jack the ripper, I mean they could be brothers, at least they look an awful lot like you know, and that's Exactly- and that was a composite done by the BBC in Scotland Yard, who came up with an identical resemblance and then we also did it on the show. So I can it I was when I was writing my book. I was contacted by a gentleman, a marked parts from Pennsylvania who's been studying homes in the ripper, his whole life, and he He gave me some information. I had the initial response that everyone has Glenn when a new suspect as to the idea did you jack the ripper is raised. We all doubt it

started looking into the evidence with an open mind, and lo and behold I now have zero. Dont even gave a TED talk about, being the rip job, have to watch and we put that we put about the audience wow I swore they mean as a as my jury and we came out with. Seventy seven percent yelping so its upcoming gimme Gimme, the high level case here that he's Jack the ripper area. We ve got a five point: seven, eight hundred and fifty pounds. twenty five to thirty five year old american doktor, with expert comical knowledge and surgical skills, whose appearance there is a remarkable resemblance to the composite, drawing generated from lie by witness testimonies, our suspect, the proven killer, whose ammo matches subsequent J T are like killings in Chicago in New York, there was

article writer, with an intricate knowledge of how major media worked. His is a is likely matched to the Dear Boston, saucy Jack postcard, which in the appeal, The aims of expert english linguists by an American trying to sound English, I that is enough if only for a life had Eglon, we could go down. Get a warrant for his arrest to have him stand trial for the murders of Catherine Meadows and Elizabeth Stride, do we have any evidence that he was there in England that he had ever travelled abroad to England, do we have anything? during the show, my my host Amaryllis Box, whose ex drain She went down in and research the passenger lists and found two or three with one with the who Almost name, which was an alias which is hard to establish it as direct evidence, The two other aliases that he likely used on the trip back

We also have a letter from home to his lawyer, stating that he was erected did with London because he could not find his favorite New York newspaper every day. and that letter was referring to it at the same time when Jack the ripper was there now. Isn't it the time that we had already established at home said nay, two or three trips to London in all likelihood is at you know when you're dealing with Jack, the ripper and a hundred and thirty year old crimes. If we went in a time machine age you time machine and we filmed home, murdering one of the victims. We got blood we had dna, we brought, we brought fingerprints back. The ripper hours would still doubt my theories and something that's hard to get around when you deal with Jack the Ripper, although I

the show had a number of revelations, including the fact that we now proven that the dear boss, in saudi Jack Postcard, were not hoaxes, as history has stated forever century, what's an english lancet and what role did play in your work. an expert on surgical tools. I know those are those dealt with bloodletting of a victim not sure that is one of the artifacts that you found. during the we know the America. river that linked jack, the ripper and age h home. It was called the Lancet So I know what you're talking about where bound we, when we went to India, Annapolis, the site where homes murdered one of his partners, young children, a horrible death, the weapon. We had. Some people come up with a box of homes, art actually inside those inside their box of these Arthur

that's what they land London, which was a surgical, do k when we come back, they just dug his body up and what they found inside the concrete print. Next, this is the Glen Back Programme. This is the last back programming. Job logic is with us the great grandson of age, H, homes. He is written a book called bloodstains. You find it bloodstains the book, his great great grandfather, Was America's first serial killer that he is the guy. They literally coined the term psychopath for they, didn't know how to describe in people couldn't get their arms around him because he was o evil beyond the anything that really we have. No. I haven't thought of this Jeff, but I know you have is: can you can pair?

to anyone in american history I mean, I mean it put him in with Jeffrey Dahmer. He sees much more, not see, Mengele kind of guy. Yeah he gets into the into the leaders of history that we consider evil. They Hitler's and those the only differences, no they murdered with their own hands, they made oysters for those to do it home enjoyed, murdering himself he when he a teenager in New York, kids. to disappear. They they they thought less, Better that he had murdered his best friend by pushing, I think, a thing of I push him out a window and then pose his body and watched him die. That's what started this whole thing. He added He tried to go back and researches childhood in New Hampshire and

I, frankly, we were unable to dig up any direct evidence in order to make a you know of a state, regarding when he first started murdering, although the legend from the top as you state many many people associated with Herman, went missing, yeah so he's first, when and he started marrying people and, although they he would, he would they would disappear. Error that he would murder their children. He went to Chicago. He built this house of horrors during the world's fair. and that's really kind of where it became until told you in your book bloodstains, You say that here's the thing you know not conclusive but in sport, some pretty good circumstantial evidence that he was jack. The ripper he comes. From London he's it was that before

he had started building anything in Chicago around the same time. What can you line up for me? the poor and the interesting, about that plan. Is Scotland Yard followed him back across the Atlantic and actually research, ripper style murders in New York? we're interested in similar style killings in Chicago. But I believe Didn't have the budget, they continue their investigation. So what we do? on the show was to hire a Chicago detective who track down all the murders time and, as you stated in your in your narration, hundreds went missing during that time. lo and behold as soon as Herman was back in Chicago ripper style killings went through the roof and then when he was arrested. Finally, they stop and then-

what some? If you missed, if you don't know who this guy is tonight the blaze at seven p m we're rerunning an episode of his story. It is the story of America's first, sir. The killer and it is mind boggling you don't want to miss it. I don't recommend you watch it with their children may, her teenagers, but children your little children will be free down their mind, because it is it's an amazing story, so He's in Chicago, while he's in Chicago, he is actually looking for other places. Yesterday as a type of fort worth, we know where our studios are we're in Dallas Fort Worth, he was when a build, a second hotel down here but think of the Texas. Kennicott onto him right Yeah, Herman you're, right, who's going to build a second, a bigger murder castle, accept that her,

hence cones were finally catching up with him? Brian, and he is assistance were starting date, jealous of the money he had that he wasn't sharing with them. They were also beginning RO scared of the fact that if you crossed Herman, you ended up missing you and And you know that can only go on so long, even with assistance that you consider very loyal so with ermine and he was arrested for court on, quotes, dealing a horse and Texas so it was actually insurance investigators that eventually put him on the murders right. They were following I can remember exactly of defeat. Forgive me has been over a year since I've I've gone through the story again, but wasn't it insurance guy who was like wait a minute this, this scam is repeating itself and and and they seem to be tied to

that right. Is that how we got caught? Finally, that's absolutely, He was the master of insurance fraud, he started Outlined by using skeletons debate, they would call them resurrectionist. She would take them up. He would change their facial structures so that it couldn't be identified and then he would turn them into insurance company and collect the often as much as thousand dollar check again he grew tired of the digging up graves in the middle of the night and he turned a murder more often so he's arrested. He goes to prison in Philadelphia. what was his prison time like was? He was he Popular was IE like Jeffrey Dahmer, with universally with shift. Was he remorseful what what unto him in prison. No one! the question it there. The show we actually

interviewed about the superintendent of one of the historical prisons in Philadelphia now in, and she shocked us by explaining how Holmes ran the show when he was in prison. He had his jail cell where's rope and he had reporter seeing him every day at a desk with his clothes hung up on the on the walls. Much like Al Capone did when he was in prison, so You believe, if I'm nervous Can you believe that here not act he never paid for his crimes that he pulled. body double at the end and It was not him hanging by the neck. There was no use during a hood, but I think that's the way they all were hung at the time. Maybe I'm wrong and he Said that he didn't want an autopsy on his body that was honoured and he was, he was buried? Weirdly- and it was honoured as well, can you take me What you think actually happened to him,

It can be explained it accurately, I in it, and there are many that join me in this area, but I believe he escaped execution and another was buried in his place and I was coping with american rip Brenda Finals episode last night that we would be able to answer that question definitively and, quite frankly, I'm sorry I'm still questioning what he found an how that matches up with the evidence. I have that it wasn't homes. It'll show me tell me what you found you dig him up he's your great grandfather. You dig him you want to have dna testing, he was. He was buried in this sarcophagus. giant heavy concrete sarcophagus, which he said I want to be buried specifically between two plots and wholly cross cemetery- in a concrete and casing. He wanted that because he didn't want anybody to dig up his body and due to him what he had done to others. That's

story. That true, and what did you find when you open the way open. The sarcophagus. All right, we had some archaeologists and anthropologists from the University of Pennsylvania. Doing that dig all scientific. The judge that allowed my request for the examination demanded that it be done now does a media circus, but in the interests of history so- we opened it up. We took his remit instead, the university, where the archaeologists set them all out for us, and, quite frankly, my first impression of the skeleton Blaine was that this wasn't homes is. This was strange looking human being on the table when all of the reporters had written story up. Story about what an elegant handsome man, in homes was that good seduce the Ladys trial, even you gonna burn in his by somebody. I mean it, I would imagine you didn't look beautiful after being dead for over a hundred years. Already,

how do you mean the EU? It didn't look right. I mean what were you notice that will last night You can use the archaeologists discusses that the skeletons too short to be homes and that the bone structure represented this muscular mass which wasn't homes at all, so they went with dental records Glenn which match those of the physical given to court on code home before the execution by the present position and what I tried to is over and over again was that wasn't also was examined by the physician and those those dental records. Match for a reason it was and here is another factor that the physician in his doom report states waited and waited when he walked into the cell is his quote. Is this? Is it the guy? it's in. There were papers in the pictures. This isn't it that's what the physician said gladden. So I tell you what

the mystery hasn't been solved. It have you Have you done a dna tests? Could you don T mean you should be able to see? If Your dna is his dna, but DNA Tat was done It was sent to a laboratory in London either three in the world that can do ancient dna, like we needed in my opinion, is inconclusive his We believe that was conclusive. That's why they ended the show last night as they did so I will going to try to convince them into continuing the series, maybe with a two hour special, so that I can sit down with someone like you or maybe Bill O Reilly, but we need to talk through the evidence piece by piece here and see if we can, Well, I am fascinated by his story. I'd love to help you in any way, even if it is just matching up with Bill O'Reilly Cuz, I I am fasting the story, The skull still contained brains

Is that unusual for a body the sold one of this story, moments of my entire life plain and they didn't show it last night for reasons I still. I tried to get them to explain this morning, but at the university I took the skull in my hand, much like hamlet, the scene from Hamlet look. into the eyes, and, as I wrote, the skull in my hand, it flocked in my hand, and I was lucky I was lucky enough to drop it to break the skull. To tell you the truth, I grab the scientist by the car And told her over and said: well, oh, oh wait! Let's flapping in how'd, you get their slapping flopping in your hands, and I suggest there is here You try and it flocked in her hand, she looked inside. His brain was still intact. Lane after a hundred and twenty one years India Y know, after she had no idea. Why

I suppose the homes missed containing heard while ever feel this is a blessing, our curse for you, you know, I you to think it was a curse claimed, but now that I get the opportunity to go on great shows like yours and explain the world that that, if we do this right, we can prevent cereal killings in the future. I think it's a blessing. That would be a noble, noble goal and a great thing that would come out of of this horror, but I, I agree with you. He was not he knew he was. He was more than sick and there was something He said he was born with evil in him. I believe that to be, but there is also something else going on inside of him, and if we can figure out anything that help others. It would make this

sad story and how Her story, american horror story at least have a happy ending the day. The book is bloodstains its bloodstains, the book dot com- you can find it there you're gonna, say, think about that brain preserved at the University of Pennsylvania? Fifty years from now, science expanding to the level where we can look into that to see what he actually was they preserving his brain. Yes,. Jeff I would love to meet you sometime. Consumer jars and fastened on Austria have dinner with you, but I heard a shrilly, a fascinating Jeff budget the grandson of H, H homes? Thank you so much appreciated It's been an honour and, like I say, your narration up, the whole story was the best I've ever heard. Can it can? I just ask you have done, and I don't mean as to pile on, complements I'm confused. What is it that that you sought was different or that we captured? That was different,

while explain it like this. I read everything. That's ever been written about homes, Glenn and the way you described it captured the evil. Miss this man, it's not another Jeffrey Dahmer, it's not that it was something more than that and I think you captured it. Thank you very much appreciated just just bloodstains in the book stains the book dot com is where you can find more information, and tonight the episode that he was just referencing is going to be re broadcast at seven p m. Only the blaze dot com, if you don't Have the blaze on cable make sure you just subscribe. You can, I think you can subscribe for free and then just cancel tomorrow. You know how watch it. I don't like you, and that is saying I wouldn't recommend did. I would prefer that you were honest and if you see stuff, that's worth your time than you, you can t. you to join us, but

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