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Glenn shows Stu some of the newest items in Glenn’s museum, including John Wayne’s hat and Captain America's shield. Glenn and Stu discuss the latest stats on the transmissibility and virulence of the Omicron variant. What are you willing to sacrifice for fear? Glenn talks about the lack of holiday spirit and the importance of having sacred spaces. The Lamp editor Matthew Walther joins to discuss his article for the Atlantic discussing how Americans are done with COVID. Author of “San Fransicko” Michael Shellenberger joins to discuss how cities might be waking up to the failures of radical policies. President and founder of SHARETogether Jaco Booyens joins to discuss the border crisis and the horrors he witnessed firsthand.

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We have a lot to go into detail. We we have by laughing about the question: where do we know the origin of cove? It really Your response, also Donald Trump, is, is decided to sing a little merry Christmas song to sleepy Joe. We have that coming up in in just a second also Nancy Pelosi came out yesterday and said this attitude of lawlessness comes from. I don't know where, but it has to stop really Nancy is. It may be time for your little cup appeals to a baby. Some putting you I know where the lawlessness comes from and have a little Christmas tree first do except he can keep any of the presence. I'll explain,
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One thing now, while like three times this year, the guy's got more lives than a cat, and I told him last Amazon you're never gonna die and you're never going to die, but now, Mom and dad both have covered everybody's been vaccinated and everything else and he's got coat. He has to go, but then she got covid or vice versa. Then she fell down had to go to the hospital. This is in this last week, So he was at home trying to take care of everything and then he fell down broke for ribs covered in the hospital, can't be in the same hospital room, even though there has been a wives, they live together, but it's a covert thank you can't be in the same house, but even if they will have it fascinating, yet a cold discovery. Whatever discover to make that I know, I know I know so it's just I don't know so I thought I'd do something today. That maybe would put me in the Christmas mood. Ok, ok, so you get open some presents, but you don't get to keep any of them. Maybe
can keep one of them, no one of them. I just think these are so cool and the audience if you're watching the blaze you'll be the it's cool, the watch but also to describe them so I've what five boxes there. You can start at the top. And open them up. These are all things from the museum that we just got in. They must be expensive, you're. Making me wear gloves Yes, they are, and thereby you could see that one has a red labels, has high value. Ok, the opening up of house wow so explain what that is ok, so this is what is it a clapper we took
bored clapboard that the clock clapper turns the lights off right. Clapboards are what they do and movies where they like action. We know that today I click and they they clapped the board and that's why you sink sounded and and Theo says Universal Service City, studios production, Jaws, director s, spills, Spielberg, wow at exactly the top is as a camera. What is only a camera acre, and that means there's a year and be unit and the be. Camera is, for all of the pick up, seems a camp is for everything that speed. Bird was standing there, the whole time going. Aright wait. Let's do it again, it's all the important seen, and I say this this looks. Can I can I open yeah, but it has a kind of a latch on it. Do you see in the Back there ya go up and down it's got teeth area. It looks like it
teeth. It was specially made for whereas tons of pictures That was Steven Spielberg the goal and handwritten stuff on the back. He observed Those are that different scenes be cool relapse of this? When I get to keep nope, you don't get to keep that one. We're you know the museum is collecting we collect. We have now more founding documents than anyone in the world, except for the national archives and the Library of Congress, its remarkable, but election yogurt, but over there We are also now. This is a collection of making sure we preserve american culture, things that were really important in american culture. Now, thing run you how much I much that such back, that lots I'll. Give you a hundred, firstly right now, no panache silver that now these, things. I bought or the museum with the art, my art proceeds. So
or Christmas present number two Christmas present number two. This is really cool. Gay it's a Stetson box. It is an innate out. You can take it out, you put it on your head, don't read it yet, don't read it yet. You put it on your head had on how you don't wanna, put a Stetson on the what, whereas The little cross tat the back a not the axes that goes to the front the little girl is ongoing. Us yeah Gallatin neglect yeah. Her head is enormous cause. That's a big hath at my head is enormous yeah, there's lots of brains to fit in Does it actually looks? Ok on you guys, it feels very awkward. You cause, you know is to accompany, had no object net. They ever put one idea in my life so now take it off read the inside. Made by Stetson, says
new duties, rodeo trait Taylor and says Stetson says made by Stetson especially for John Wayne, It's John wanes cowboy hat now not sure if it ever appeared in any movies, but it was his personal hat, and it was good in in a poker game. He was at a poker game. He was getting ready to leave and one of the guys are the table said weighing yeah. Paid me for the last time you lost of his hand. He said well, this will probably pay for it and he threw down on the table a guy kept it until he died. No, I really cool while really cool, so I get to keep this one that now that one now I'll give you a shoe your bucks for that. One now right now know it now
nope, you're, gonna love, lap, you're, gonna love the last two you're gonna love the last October, so arrogant over three. So number three tend to be very careful here or her. Oh, my yeah she's, so that is the gun belt of joy see James. So if you remember Jesse James, this is the guy belt that he had on the day. He died. So two gun belts this is one of them: if you remember Jesse James, was killed by the Coward Robert Ford and Jesse James was kind of a hero robber. You know what I mean. People liked him and and Robert Ford was kind of a cleaner on, and he really wanted to be famous, and he a huge mistake. He
old somebody and then buried them in a shallow grave and the police found out about it and arrested him and he said, wait, wait. I know where Jesse James is and the governor said. If you kill Jesse James. Oh, pardon you for the killing of Jesse James and the guy you just buried, annulled view the reward so he went and he was plodding Jesse James, didn't trust him Jesse and his brother were there. They were gonna, rob a bank and Robert Ford said I'll help. He went. He had Brecht with the two of em at Jesse, James House Jesse was sitting there in the parlour in the being living room and they were talking any notice that his moms needle point that was over the fireplace was crooked. So I got The chair was straightening out and, Albert Ford, shot him right behind the ear shot him in the back
in the head actually, but he had his back turned and he became the Coward Robert Ford and eventually was in the back as well, by somebody that Britain wanted him dead and it had no connection to Jesse James just hated the fact that this guy started to go on stage and make himself into a big hero. People turned on him quickly. He had no friends after that and yet says here as a cartridge belt used by Jesse James one of the two he had when killed yeah. Why not amazing? Like an amazing, you have cool toy yeah. They are cool toys that unfortunately there all they are all in the museum by the way we want to do another museum and open the museum. Up, this summer for a major opening. It's gonna, probably too You know we usually have them in this building a feeling it may take two or
three buildings. Now, because this has exe, ended so dramatically. and we're gonna do that this summer, hopefully Ok, the last to the last two ok I'm not sure which one that one is and if its sorry was empty, wave where the box out for you, but this one is the coolest thing this one is one of those things Brad Meltzer, you nor good friend, oh yeah, yeah, he's gonna he'll heelflip over this. and this is one of the cruellest things of I just I've seen. Okay, opening at Christmas, over four four still american culture Red- clothing, a source, carefully outcome. Wearing your gloves tat. He carefully. I owe my wow
take a solid Superman's cape. Oh my ass now, open it up on the inside marine. This is on the collar, whilst Christopher Reefs, yes, his four nine one, three walking, which is interesting, unfortunately, haven't across various yeah, but this is that's Christopher Reeves than not only. Escape being the other Talks are his boots and That's your suit! Oh yeah! Forgive us but pulleys suit out just the top- look, how small he was yeah, maybe because it fit pretty tightly so I don't know, maybe it stretches a lot, but he was not a big guy, at least according to the suit. Yet it's I mean it is sir, if I guess a city, the Yasser material, but yeah is those areas, pants
and that's from the first Superman movie. I think these Custom, but I dont think about these at the store, just an amazing amazing thing, and these some of the things that day Barton has purchased, I have purchased, the museum has purchased and em all of them will be seen in the museum there's his boots, This doesn't seem like a person saving the world where these boots no that's doesn't know, it looks more like lady Gaga does not only lady Gaga wood. Where are they? Zeb damn right into these things. I accept a male tight suit, yeah and some big boat so low, where that style and unloading, and as I say, it's a little weird guides like John DOE, because walking around with that view. No, unless you are the man of steel, you don't want to be
You don't have to tell everybody but tell me how issues set you back, how much? How much is other stuff cost? I'm just most audience with just two now audience yeah, it's a lot it a lot by way, here's two more things. this is Captain America's mask from the first captain America? Look how small his head was. Wait, the he wore this. This is The first movie and it's like a kiss his hurry feet tall I know- is that crazy way, what This is from the first movie tomorrow, the first movie being countenance Erika, but they made several versions of the hammer. Yet this is the one of the Marvel Series. This is the first Marvel Series Movie was the first in the series of the Marvel movies like recently yeah with his name, who plays cry Seven Chris Evans, yeah that's days Chris,
Ed Fit into this. I don't know. I just know that that it look at the inside look at the inside. It is from stage for number, for its hard version of the helmet for the film we ve, covered some news. Your Chris Chris evidence is apparently a little person. I am also going to show you. This is kind of this is this? Is the actual Captain America Shield from the first movie that he wore. You know that he wore in that Chris Evan size, though it does. Chris s looks like I let you have a shrunken head. I don't know, I don't know. Unfortunately, rubber, not VI brain him really lie. You debate they was Erika is a small headed lie you're, just like the real America Rough Green
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Quite honestly, I mean I do I look at the stuff going on today and see if I can start with some. We start with good news. ok, I don't have any, but how about this? How about now? See policy actually standing up yesterday and sang yeah I don't know where they're getting this. You know lawless behaviour from, but it's gotta stop listen to this when it is, and it's absolutely outrageous, obviously cannot continue, but the fact is is that there is an attitude of. Lawlessness in our country the thing rings from I dont know where maybe you do we are we do cannot have that lawlessness become the norm. Yes, yes, that's a good idea, it's weird, because I think that's what we were saying to them. Just a couple. years ago you can,
allow this lawlessness to happen. You know breaking the doors in of in stores and just going in and taking stuff peace. We'll marches shore What do I might add, he's down also lighting cities- and I are not that would be lawlessness that would be monitoring as well. It's lawlessness when you don't punish it right. If someone and burnt city down. That's one thing, and that person has with the consequent least, typically that's how society and are more these guys. These guy said that we shouldn't punish them. I was gonna back to that moment during the initial George Floyd Riots, where they walked in to a police. Recent yes lidded on fire and the police just left at not the police, they're, not their decision by the way of horse, they did not want that. But but they just left and they let them. take it over and set it on fire. They didn't even try to stop them. What what am I you like that, such an amazing moment that's been overlooked. It's one thing, look,
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Just after talking about God and would have a cool artifact from batman- and you don't have any give me three minutes and our number is dated eight- seventy seven Bcg AAA seven, twenty seven back, we we have a lot to tell you about, especially coming from the White House. It's it's becoming hysterical. It's like the Keystone cops and makes for these presence by miracles, pursues programme at the end of every day, walk into my bedroom, I say I came here to kickboxing, get a good night's sleep. and I'm all our butts to kick so we're gonna, get it That's how you talk. That's how I talked to myself. That's how I talk to my son Anna yeah. I get a good night's sleep. Night, because I'm sleeping on a lot of stuff from my pillow dot com. I have my pillow.
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none at all. Sorry, sorry, sorry monitoring was transmissible, Miss Amelia, much less virulent so- maybe maybe we don't know that for sure, but it I mean, Their signs are sign of it. We ve got to know, but it's sign a lifetime's ino looked as if we ve seen. We see this pattern enough to know people who are sceptical of covert generally gravitate too best news information on this and the people in the news media generally go to the Wall Street. We know that pattern goes on, so you have to take time to sift through it and try to figure out, ok which, which part of this is true, which is it even the mainstream media has started, bringing up reports about it being less virulent. So that's that's. It does seem like that. There's some thing to that its well. He couldn't it couldn't reproduce this fast without leaving awake. We know it's not more virulent yeah. I think that that
I mean, I think so, yeah yeah, I think I think it's gonna wind up being less it there's a lot of people they ve got a bunch of studies, just all really early a lot of them are in the lab, but like this, this is the stuff they figure out to indicate what is gonna go on and they missed sometimes, but usually they get the direction generally speaking right. So it's now in seventy countries of rapid growth in the? U k it it now shows it can out compete with a delta variant which, if it is less virulent, that's good, because it will be the dominant strain more ready to demonstrate in London already in South Africa, while its as currently dominate in the? U S and much of Europe, deltas than one? That's Ozark delta, easier, also evidence that it is better at than its predecessors added veiling, mute immunity from vaccines or previous infection. That seems to be another thing that Israel Like I write, you know that, like we're delta, you know it ever was
but the waning vaccine efficiency with delta, and now it was a little bit by anything. It was all that much you be worried about this one in particular. Those seems like not only vaccine. immunity, but also natural immunity. It seems to be good at getting around, which is a sub optimal yeah in theory, the participants, Not to me. This goes back to what I said in January before anybody was really talking about. You know what it might mean and I said if this is an outbreak, I fear the I fear, the economic I'm a vacations more than the virus. I just don't think this is going to be the plague you know or bola. It's going to really attack us economically, that's what I was worried about and then I said it is eventually going to burn itself out as they do and it will prob Lee just become,
other flew. Now, that's bad because you know we lose so sucks here, the flu socks and we lose. What, for eighty to eighty thousand people every year in Amerika from the flu you add another forty to eighty thousand in that's a lot of people want to double up on the flow of childhood, but in the long term I think we will that's how this probably ends, how it ends. That's how it ends, and this might be a step in that direction. We don't know yet, but we do no, that it is, the numbers are a little staggering. It is It is much more transmissible, on Wednesday the UK reported four thousand six hundred. Seventy one new COMECON cases an increase of eighty seven percent on those previously identified bring the totalled more than ten thousand people infections.
The variant are much higher than reported cases, given the asymptomatic infection and the lag time in testing to identify it, they asked made now homage, ground infections could reach a million a day by Christmas Day in the Ok, that's daddy's the way this is written. It doesn't it's because an entire stories about the UK. Now seventy of ass, crazy and said there are what seventy five thousand a thing he said for debt per day that I was one is a spike day. Sometimes the data comes in strangely, so that's a little bit higher than they ve been. But that's the record for the entire pandemic, if it continues. It because they say they have previously identified, bringing the total of cases. more than to them to more than ten thousand so the ear, ear, you're a long way away from a million. It's got to be for the all of Europe. It does seem, though. Pretty clear that it is a lot more transmissible which did as you point
might not be bad. It depends on how much of how much more trends, support is right, because there are some indication in early lab studies in such that mccrone may be. the very of it may be reduced twenty five million. Fifty percent. Now, that's not. in camera. You can't take that to the bank, but if that were to hold up, that's obvious We really good. We lack unless people will die. The problem, though, is if you increase cases by five or ten acts violence is still gonna wind up with a really bad bottom line number at. I do think that Look if you are living in a red state if you're living in I dont think much. Much is going to change about your life going through this, though I do think in a trap may be very annoying if you're in a blue state. I think it's there a. I only shut, we are coming, but I do think you're gonna get restrictions summer. That's going to come back on your sing it in some places. Already
You said you may be kind of annoying. I will say it doesn't seem like it's going to be. I think it is going to be annoying, because I think the federal government will make it annoying this, I think state governments will be also yeah. Well, you stay and slew stadia beyond less dates, and you know they already are but like when these things come up. We also had a epsilon variant right, and that was in the news for awhile to and it turned into nothing right, so Sometimes these things happen and the majority of them. I would say a lot. Scares. We ve seen it over and over again with the media. They turn into nothing this one though you like Delta, seems like it could get to the point. where it's going to be pretty annoying, I mean like I did it does to evade natural unity and vaccine immunity right. They innovators, weird because everybody say we ve got a. We ve gotta, get on these vaccine boasters. What why well I mean
it appears to of aid those thing yet there. Now that the initial studies and again that is important to note this comes from Pfizer, so you and like I don't know, I understand you- should deaf be skeptical of of Mcdonald's, telling you how healthy their fries? I write like a guy's, yet, on the other hand, to we're gonna have real results from outside scientists within weeks. So, like them to just say I'll, get go, get boosted and have nothing behind. It would also would wouldn't help them in the long term. Remember this is a company that buys all the pills that the villages so exciting to live in, in five or has a lot of money right like so for them to completely screw. This up would be, would be there's not a lot of incentive for them for a three week period of them selling extra booster shots there studies are showing that if certain the the too shy are something like thirty three percent effective against Roma. From where
with the booster goes up to about. Eighty is what they're saying now: they are saying, However- and this is important- the- and I think this will for natural immunity as well, though I have not seen a study on it yet, but the book the vaccine- and I think natural immunity are holding up quite well again, hospitalization and death still. So it's not that's one of the arguments about the difference in virulence, the the aggressiveness of of covert back in the day was against a population that did no one had it known was vaccinated name, we didn't have treatments right, Now we are at a point where a lot of people are vaccinated. A lot of people have had it and we have a lot of treatments and more coming, so it may Just be that it's. This similar virulence but we just have a population much better prepared to handle it and that is important. It's why you do. I would all these restrictions on again. We are able to make our own choices and judge our own risk, so there
looking at the University of Ohio, Ohio State University there looking at the Mccrone variant and They have found now that it looks like this variant does, go or doesn't breed well in the lungs it does. Much better in the throat which is huge. it's a huge, if you get that out of your lungs, you know that that's where pneumonia and you just can't breathe all that stuff ventilators. If you keep it, if this thing keeps out of lungs, it's gonna be a lot better. Now don't know, that's an initial report, but this, is the way these things work generally speaking, this is the way viruses work. They don't want to kill the host life is trying to find a way to live and survive. So, this virus is life and if it goes,
to a body and the body dies because it kills it it dies, and so, it needs to get smarter and less virulent kill last people and that's what happens. That's why these things usually get more and more mild as they go on, but not gonna, see you're, not gonna, see an end to the the man is. However, let me say this: Have you seen the ceos two of them largest airlines, say if they are no longer? This is american and southwest say they are not going to they're not going to do that. but the mask mandates basis, They say that the thousand f a rule. two seals. America's largest airline said this week. They don't believe the Bite administration continue mass mandates requiring travels to where mass, while flying serves much benefit. Considering the acted airplanes have advanced filtration systems are removed, nearly all airborne contamination. From the cabin the comments.
came from American Airlines, CEO Doug Parker, Southwest Airline, CEO, Gary Kelly, during a Senate committee hearing on the financial support of the industry during the pandemic, so their pushing back on their opposing at their positive can't lifted themselves were right, but that is a huge deal and end honestly you're talking about one of probably the safest environments you give ye for cover, because I think it would be one of the worst. But it's not here, because it would be one of the worst devotes a sealed tube right, but they, if they filter that air- I don't know how many times Nokia before it comes blowin back in your face, so it is a very safe environment, and I know of really none that I can think of, but outbreaks that have happened on planes, that's not to say that no cases of ever been transmitted on a plane but like there's that there haven't been super. Bread or events on plain and you because of an alteration right. You would think that that that closed in environment would be a super spreader event every time it takes off. So where are you on like?
you had to say, Let me give you two options. This is gonna, get pretty bad or it and fade away and be nothing. Are you a fifty fifty person you above fifty fifty that's gonna get bad, and when I bad, I mean You know I am beginning to be generous on April twenty twenty bad, but gonna, be in a worse. Worse than, let's say the delta wave of the of the fall of the fallen winter last year, where we had been out of thirty five hundred forth and people a day dying. So I think I mean this is a sheer gatty on my yet I'm have any feeling on it. I'm with you on this on its vibe. I don't know my God says that it's good owing to its going to be much more prevalent but much a scary. You people are not going to be afraid of this. When there goes it's gonna start just becoming part of life right, you're out
but, like the governments not gonna, reflect that, but did that's where the american people and I think, what we always the unity and we always lead. I think you know we we we will start doing the things you saw You see this in red states all the time There were mask mandates here. Much longer than people were paying attention to them the enemy. Like people were living, there lies in doing what they wanted to do, even though some of these rules and make remained on the books and some of these places will implement these rules again- and I think at this point most people are just like look cattle in my life. You know I mean if you're not gonna live my life, it's this is why I got in trouble for when I said when, when aware at the height people like me. My age, I've lived a good life, I've had a good life and if it meant keeping America's doors open now on TK Nickel infrastructure then I'd be willing to go in and you know I get the corona virus and I die okay. I volunteered to do that. Cheap America going don't call
shutting down- and I think more, people are like that. Look, I'm not gonna live my life in fear of this stupid virus. Right you know we hand tat. We can it'll be like this. We are going to live with the curve. no virus for the rich. Still our lives, it's just going to be. part of life now, so Now is the time to make the choice. How Much are you willing to are you willing not to see your children Your grandchildren on Christmas because you're afraid of the corona virus, maybe are this year, are you still gonna be there next year and the year after. What is it. We are sacrificing because of fear I woke up this morning. I'll bet
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Hello America welcome to the programme two days away from my last show today and tomorrow my last show before the holidays, and I want to talk to you a little bit about some of the things that we're missing right now, there's a there's, we're losing traditions and we don't even recognize it I'll start there and sixty seconds programme, so I have always been a year round, grill or even when I lived up in Connecticut, and it was really really super super cold. But I like the stake out on a girl, but we'll tell you standing out there. They were always burnt because I would go inside and then they would start on fire and then I'd be like I'd just I'll. Just let it burn until it's me. You know just a little pink in the middle rectangle We have that problem, rectangle,
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This is so far the least holiday. I have ever felt in my life and it may for a myriad of reasons, the family as a rule the family, has been just had a really bad year. This has been worst year as a family. I think we ve ever had we had some points, but we ve had so many low points, and maybe it's just that, I'm not in the mood for Christmas. I just want to just one get it done with and I ask everybody on the staff yesterday, because somebody on my staff said you're not really doing anything about Christmas and like Blue Santa Claus, you look like him, and so I, asked whose not into the holiday season this year, everybody on my staff of the thirteen ten ten people knew everybody in here yesterday raise your hand except for two Nathan who just
the book about tourism and he's gotta best selling Christmas bookie Hasta Viagra? Because, yes- and you still yes and then I started the discussions. Okay, so why is it what what's what's happening to us because everybody everybody on what they step. We are always excited for Christmas. Well, exam! Probably the one jewish person, but everybody's always accepted for Christmas. So first we thought okay- is it the lack of Jesus? in the Christmas season. Is it the rise of you, consumerism, which I real, even feel this year, I felt For years and parts of don't mind if Christmas starts in September. Thanks? I was like Christmas. I think now hear me out.
We have had multiple years of social polarisation and I think that's part of it, but also the death of our traditions, Our traditions are being killed, one by one and Peru. Perhaps we have forgotten how to make things sacred. We ve lost. Are we ve star reverence for wisdom that is passed down from generation to generation. We are now all focused on the future and Karl Marx that we ve let the pass disk here. In our neglect, we build hours without any regard for their foundations. We build our homes on shifting sands and sacredness. Have you been watching what's happening over the redesign of note, Madam in France, but sacredness
has been sacrificed on the altar it's far less important than inclusive iii and connection. They want places to feel welcoming me or than holy. And there is something about sacred spaces we Our culture bring try to bring everything together. We don't set things apart now. The left is doing that. Cause of their religion, they are setting things apart. They are setting the forests apart, people We go in the forest bill, heard it its sacred. and then they set the abominations apart, you can't be in society because you don't believe this. when it comes to you no regular people, Nothing is sacred anymore. You know I I I for my son.
And this is one of our traditions and I dont even know if gonna do it this year, every January. First, the family gets together. We spend new year's eve together and we have one really nice meal and We all dress to the nines I make up made the decision that their black, their black tie, and we ve always had black tie since, since a kids were small, we had black tie January our December thirty first dinners and last year. We are like, Alice, dress up a little bit and we weren't really even dressed up in this I haven't heard any talk about it and I've. I've done it because I want my sons to know how to dress up my sons, donor and maybe that's ridiculous- maybe that'll, never because people are wearing even suits and ties anymore, so I dont know,
but everything's blending together now you know, but our work bleeds into our home life, because there is always something buzzing in our pocket. The eye of your Sunday best is gone. We're lucky if people shop to church in person in just watch from home in their pj's, because I know I've enjoyed that we're locked people don't even short they I bet you they have shown up in church in their pj's. More and more. A family gatherings are held, virtually With a family is together virtually, but in reality we're not We ve done these things now because we want to be connected. We want to include everyone. We want togetherness, U S most church folks, why they dress for church as much as a grandma did they'll say because I want everybody to feel comfortable joining the service.
They don't want the requirement to wear nice closer or whatever, to prevent potential church goers from attending it's an to be more inclusive and it's an honest effort, but You always like we what we said in my business. I can't programme the show for the people who don't listen. we are who we are and I care about the people who are listening. And we ve lost so much our traditions and our sacred spaces, and Is our traditions and our rituals that bind us together as a nation. George Petersen has recently talked about this tradition. Listen, we don't have much respect for tradition in the west and it's a really really big problem, because the ethical responsibility of a human being. Is to take the dead culture, so that's the dead, father or the dead God, and to revive a fight with attention and communicate.
Are you fail to do that in everything disappears and we we are failing to do that we're leaving it all behind. Instead, it's not a good idea, if the old gods die, as nature said they had. New guide swoop in very rapidly, and if you think the old God was bad, you wait till the new gods get a hold of you this. Is what concerns me so much. We are changing and we're not even noticing how much? We have changed code made alone has. Changed everything. you know least after nine eleven we noticed. While you can't go to the airport anymore. I can't go to the gate. I've gotta be searched all the time. I got this in that. No I'm not Are things are changing so rapidly? I'm not sure we even notice any more we're going. Stand back, Probably soon and law
back and go holy cow. When did all of this happen? I remember that we use to wear Now being trained, that meeting expensive were now being trained that your going to have an electric car were now be trained that that you can not work and be paid. now being trained, that capitalism is bad, were now being trained. That Jesus is a myth and there are no standards, we make up ourselves. Let me think this flag isn't is offensive. Football is racist thing. giving is racist. What survives untouched. In the last few years, we ve seen the death of things that bring us together. We couldn't
the football games. We should go celebrate fourth of July, and now we can Go to Grandma's house because of cove in first All this been happening. the years in bits and pieces. The family has been breaking down into smaller, smaller pieces fur through people just moving away there not coming home for the holidays anymore than theirs divorce, and so do I gotta moms house or dad's house, or both now through lyrical divides we're not have an uncle Bernie here. And vaccination status. we're closing everybody out and after a couple of years have not gathering in person. I I really fear many of us have lost the taste for it. I said it thanks giving the thanksgiving table- and I thought about the first
Easter. I was with the colonial family. Before I married my wife was still with all the old people. The old people that had come from ITALY to with your hands, barely understand them. All of the immigrants that had come, Annie was a table that was full and Pitch and no one got up from the table literally for six hours it was fascinating Everybody was talking this time, I went for Thanksgiving, whose mom and dad my family luckily the other kids too, of the other kids came. One of their family another one popped by to visit and the aunts and uncles they popped in visit later and that's a goods or for a family,
how many families are still doing that. But it wasn't the same. Our homes aren't sacred any more. What is that were passing down to our children and we To answer this question, because now, Sure abhors a vacuum and there a gaping holes that we have left open as we dismantle our society- and if we don't fill it with something good. It will be filled with something not good. I guess what I'm saying to you is what I'm saying to myself this Christmas. Maybe we should all take a moment and just consider what is sacred. Perhaps it's its traditions use you inherited. Perhaps it isn't The one thing I know that
I ve learned since getting older kids don't learn, through Us Moses, I said something to me It's the other day, something my dad said a million times. I don't remember what it was right now, but it was one of these things that I grew up. I knew absolutely positively cuz my dad said it over and over and over again- and I said kid's. I know you heard me say this over and over again, but and go by. Look at me and said, I've never heard you say that port in I'm like white course. I have and I'm not sure they might that cars- are there really good liars. not sure if I had. I'm I'm learning every day. Every day, kids don't learn through us, Moses, Jeremiah predicted.
Surely our fathers have inherited lies, maybe. But don't throw in inherited history away lightly, don't do it without an understanding that that is digging a whole In your family and in yourself ends Something will come and fill it have you noticed how many people there are in government and society that are more than willing to fill it. One of the things my father used to say all the time is the name of God is I am it's almost power for two words in any language I am, and if
you don't know and say to yourself every day I am blank. Because you dont know or you don't believe I believe in yourself I am durable. I am unhappy. I am a loser if you say that that is what you will become so fill that blame after I am with something you want to become something. you can hold up your head and say this, What and who I am. and if you don't do it. He warned us in marriage and in life there will always be some one willing, to feel in that line to fill in that blank, and it's happening too. All of us now we D I know who we are. We don't know
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second station, I d Welcome to the welcome to the program Oh there's, so things that I think we should touch on. I want to go back to our Micron, The corona virus last hour is due, and I were talking about. the latest stats. It looks like it's much more transmissible but Early indications are that may be less viral, may be less deadly. And that would be good news. It's not going in. It doesn't fees on the lungs it instead lives in the Airways and in our throats, which makes it much more transmissible, but also because it's not going into our lungs, it makes it less deadly. We think at this point
We are entering a time now end soon. I think we agree that the american people and I think people all over the world are kind of pretty done with it. The done with it like you know. What I'm gonna live? My life me, I think, that's true, I think an analog obvious A lot of conservatives were done with it a long time ago, but I think looking at the country, the whole- and this is important to you. If you're running a business, you might not care about what liberals do generally, but you're running a business, but good chunk of that business probably comes from left. So we know it's important that everybody gets past us not just us, and I think there are still- hold out for sure, but I think we are moving past it pretty rapidly at this point- and I don't think people live and die with this information every day, and I think most people don't want to talk about it anymore, there's sick of it. I m sick of it, and I think I think people I look let me alone justly me. You know, make your decision I'll make my decision.
Matthew Walter he's, the editor of the lamp also contributing editor for american conservative. He wrote a piece in the Atlantic where I live, no Who cares about Cove id and this has people in New York and people who read the Atlantic on way way. What, but, I think he's right I think, he's right. It's where most people are we're. talk to him in justice, a its eight. I think I rather remarkable. Are call. That is a I don't know a wake up call I think, for a lot of people in the coach yeah. This is happening in a marker in time on where we are and where we seem to be pivoting too. That's coming up just a second stand by
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be by a lot, but it also looks less deadly, but we don't know yet, but that wouldn't stop everybody from freak. I can say that it shouldn't Stop everybody in the media, from freaking out and in Washington, or in certain blue state thereof. freak out. I don't think so Eric and people are, I think we're done with it. and Matthew. Walter is the editor of the lamp contributing editor american Conservative and he's The peace for the Atlantic, where I live now cares about Cove id rain. the article I think is exactly right. Matthew welcome to the programme they for having. So this How is this gone over at the Atlantic? So, to be honest, I have been heartened by the response that I've seen from so many people, especially people,
you know, emailing or sending me messages on social media to say thank you we're so glad that there's somebody out there, whose willing to present our actual experience of reality, we feel like when we read the news or return on tv a different universes being now we were the only ones. Are you getting? Those from coastal cities. really from all over. I mean that's the thing that was really surprising. Again hardening made? It wasn't just people who You know in Sweden, Deeper Edinburgh, America right happened to do people, you know who live in, say the Connecticut suburbs who say yeah, you know the truth. Is that sometimes you know at work, they tell us. We have to put these mass on our water but for the most part, I'm over it. I'm living my life. We had grandma over for Thanksgiving, we're all getting together to watch football. We're going to our kids, high school basketball, game, correct or just living our lives,
it is, it is really a stir, each thing there seems to be a split and I'm I am sure that that split is gonna. Last xx in places that are Ober Goober oh bird, deep, deep blue. but it's almost, I was up in Connecticut and its own religious now I mean you are a pariah if you're not wearing a mask in some circles outside inside all the time. It's it's, not it's it's almost a mental disorder yeah. You know in the worst thing about it is, I suppose it's one thing: if these people want to engage in this behavior, but the ones I feel bad for our the service workers, people who queen hotels, people who washed dishes in restaurants life,
You're gonna end up having to do this for years and even after the young people who consider them shows their betters have moved on yeah. I think that's gonna happen with the airline industry too. If the airline industry, doesn't it doesn't wake up star pushing back, you Your article talked about a trip in Washington DC, and I have this that same experience. When I went into the coastal cities. You said, it was bizarre to find thousands of people indifferent. he dawning masks outdoors. Tell me about that yeah! I you know again loot living out here. I was aware that masking when you go into a restaurant or you walk into a hotel was a thing, the eye the people were wearing them outside. In more, ouch, it just would never have occurred to me that that was a thing there. never any real evidence that outdoor transmission
the virus was a thing, but especially when you walking down down the road there alone. Here you know, unless you're trying to signal something for other people, I have no idea what what the public health benefits could be. Well, then an interesting thing, and you talk about that in the article unless you're trying to signal something. I think this is a signal. I think this is like the Red Mega hat, This is a signal you're on one side or the other eye. I think it's horrible that has become that and I hope we in the past there, but I I think that's what's happening. yeah. I think you're exactly right and I should say to me: I think that the sort of deep politicization have the most ordinary acts like walking the street are going into a restaurant or whatever it's horrible in. I think that people who go on
their way to put on masks to demonstrate some of superiority is obnoxious. I also think people who stay put a mega had or let's go brand insured or whatever, just a princely brilliant discredit. provoke their neighbours that that's obnoxious to look beyond I agree I mean you can wear one, but when you Just like I've, gotta go I'm going on the plane to rile everybody up. That's obnoxious that that a fun but obnoxious we hear you come to the conclusion. This is going to be just another stupid thing. That we put medium, you wrote no fault divorce, factory, sliced bread, frozen meals and, of course, infant formula or adopt enthusiastically by the upper middle class, who then think better of them by the a time the lower orders come around,
yeah, obviously is there's a lot to unpack there. But you know one of the most fascinating conclusion the sociologists have drawn over the last few decades is that divorce is actually not something by large. That upper middle class profession we are doing in divorce. If you look at, you know where it sort of folly on the class letter is actually largely concentrated among the lower middle classes, who used to be that people who are most likely to have in a sort of lifelong, stable marriages and Is this consistent pattern that plays out where the people at the top get enthusiastic about something people a little bit further down, are sort of skeptical and the top imposes on the bottom then they think better of discarded themselves, but everybody else is stuck with it.
I don't know if that's got it, because I think that it is generally a lot of the elites that are doing this at this point, and I think I've seen a turn, well you know think everybody wanted to do the right thing at the beginning and we all thought the best of each other and now You know some of these things are just completely. You know either unproven or dis proven to be a fool DR in any way, an p or tired over there. Like look, I can't live my life in isolation, the red I'm not doing it. I live with this and I think, that's becoming dominant with Amr Crow, What are you see on the horizon? I think that What we were going to see here is that people are fine really going to come around to the reality that Europe
it is not like russian roulette. I think that most people think about If it is like russian roulette, it's it's playing it with her. kind of weird gun that has you know a couple million chambers in it, and the same thing is true of getting in you. car for your morning. Can you you know there is it is a non zero chance at something that could happen to you, but I think what a lot of this comes down to is just people's varying in our assessment of risk, but I think we were gonna see now speak. Kind of quietly apology for themselves. Oh yeah, you know what I dont have to be worried about this. I can't go about my business and I can never be a hundred percent sure that nothing that's going to happen, but you know what can do his website is the lamp magazine, dot com, the article we ve been talking about was in the Atlantic where I live. No one cares about covered.
name is Matthew Walter. Thank you I appreciate it. Things like be met, so stew, I mean, I think, he's coming to the same conclusion and ties in something that we talked about. Yesterday, and that is, can we We play the Nancy Pelosi sought from Yes, this is crazy. This is Nancy Pelosi talking about how cry is just out of hand. Listeners. no, I haven't it was cut too. I thought when it is, it's absolutely outrageous. Obviously cannot continue The fact is that there is an added to over. Lawlessness and our country that springs from I dont know where maybe you to be here do you and we cannot have that lawlessness become the norm? Ok, so
we have yesterday. The mayor of San Francisco coming out and saying enough is enough: enough is enough and this person is you know was was part of the progressive movement. She was the one who said we're gonna we're gonna cut our spending for our police were in a try. Something different important note too, that was July yeah this year only a few months ago. They thought they were still on this. You know dissolve the police to fund the police sort of direction, and that's which around rob in a lot of cities. Just over the past few weeks, people are realising how bad of an idea this was which is hard to under and that it could take more than I dont know. Eight second, I know I don't just one viewing of the mainly peaceful marches in net, but they were too so locked into that permanently. They couldn't see the narratives and now they're, seeing it, but their blaming it on. Something else are looking to blame it on anything else, but I think this
because and we're going to talk to Michael Shellenberger he's the author of San Francisco. We've had him on a couple of times he's been pushing and saying: look at this has got to stop and he's a kind of on the left. He started. He to be in the movement that the progressive movement about things like homelessness and stuffy rights activist in that area and in some ways it s still it, but he should say that, like the those approaches the progressives want, don't work. we need to change our work here and I I want him to talk about what did took to change, but he'll go into detail what happened to this matter. This matter was approached by people. Average people got together and said enough is enough, enough is enough and the pressure started on her and that's that that's what she says changed her is.
Seeing people- and I think this is happening all across Amerika. Even in Prague massive San Francisco people are waking, That's very, very good can find it in new year is right around the corner. You need to be ask yourself: what are your financial goals? What is it you're doing to shore up your financial house where can you save money and, more importantly, where are the areas where you're not saving money? Difficult thing to do? but it's made a lot less difficult when you pick up the phone and called american financing, if you're paying three percent or more for your mortgage call them right now. I don't know if you saw this from the Federal Reserve, but they're going do drastically tapering, which means are cutting off the money to Wall Street, to going to see some real problems there and there do three significant rate hikes beginning next year. Donovan it's coming, but we know now it is coming. If you,
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other things that are happening in society? That we need to take a new look at and figure it out. You know there are so many people who are homeless, who are really seriously disturbed. How do we How do we deal with that? How do we How do we deal with the homelessness in California The one thing you don't do is what California has done in just made it like a you can do whatever you want. You can crap over here. You can be shoot and drugs and everything's. Because it's not fine, it's not fine, We're gonna talk to Michael shown burger. Next, he is the author of San Francisco. He is he's a guy who was when we first did our special on CNN on global warming. He was known as the environmental justice warrior? He
the saviour of the planet around that time. Wasn't he in he went through a long career of activism on global warming and is as you know, I'll tell you the story, but he you know, he believed a lot of that type about it and recognizes that and when, after looking at all the data, that is just doesn't proof it's not even in its like lobbying critical of their science. There, science doesn't even say this year, a dozen, so he went through all the claims. It has some amazing interviews in moments in there were some of the time, something you ve heard. Like a yo, see say, he, instead of just debating like everybody else do, does he just actually got an interview with the scientists who supposedly said it, and then scientists said: oh, I didn't say that that's not what it means at all everybody repeating! That is wrong like it's, that that clear, pretty interesting- the work that he has done on that topic, and here
sort of the same journey I think with this, and that he was very active in the in the movement. early on to try to solve some of these problems of of extended homelessness and in these issues- and it was the progressive side, and he now Looking at these things with a totally different ironies, come up with really detailed solutions to it, because this It is not going away if we continue to treat this like and we should use our streets as both the residents and bathroom homeless people in every one of these big cities. At this. The turnout really badly any than already is YAP. It already is here. by the way he sees he's dealing with it in an everyday basis. Here's the really fascinating thing to me is right. Now we have the opportunity to think outside the box and really meet with big thinkers, on both sides, because the crowd hasn't come yet the big thinkers
come in and there like, look, might what what I've been advocating. Doesn't work clearly doesn't work and we ve got to find something new. and some of the things you guys have been advocating seem to work what can we do? What can we do together? It's a really rare opportunity, but it's gonna be Those people coming together from both sides in sitting through those uncomfortable moments gone. I really disagree with you on this particular sliver, but let's find the things that we do agree on how to move forward
program. There's something really exciting going on that the world is the world is changing and people who have been hard core left. These are now starting to go. Wait a minute wait a minute paying on some of this stuff is working and we have a real opportunity to talk to people who were we're dedicated on the other side. I mean not radical revolutionary. You know what kind of people, but but people who believed in different things than we believed in there now say, wait. I may have more in common with you than I thought and we can actually find our path towards one another, because the world has changed throw out the bill of rights or the constitution, but other than that? I'm pretty willing to listen.
And find a new path and what's happening is the left is starting to cave and say, gee. I don't. I don't know why our cities are on fire, why everybody killing each other it's gotta, stop what just happened in San Francisco with the mayor of San Francisco guy who has been calling for this is Michael Shellin Burger. He is the author of the book. San Francisco and he's with us to talk about what happening in San Francisco in sixty seconds programme, In almost all cases, the secret to seek to success in buying or selling a home is having the right real estate agent and timing. It's not a simple, is just having somebody who knows how to find a good home for you You said you were looking for. You know something in this budget range yeah, but that's not what I'm looking for. They really have to listen to you,
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and then she used and exploitative, which I won't use, can be asked some Iraq or tolerate this bs anymore, and it was a very strong speech. I mean look, there's a lot of reasons to be sceptical. I read thirty years of you know thirty years of proposals coming out of the San Francisco government promising to do this, but its clear she state, political future on what she does next and it's just given lotta momentum to the critics of this kind are radical. Progressive left nonsense, defined the police, that demoralized and demonized police that resulted in this crime search were seen. We also the former mayor of Philadelphia come out and criticise the left wing d, a fur four, basically dismissing the fat that we're in rhyme wave at all I mean much of the left- has
and then deny all that were in the midst of record homicide levels in many cities, radio incredible amount, Crime going on all the created by progressive policy all of it allowed by progressive policy. So to see this backlash now coming, including from the heart of Progressive ISM, is really quite inspiring. So I want to play something from Nancy Policy because it goes to the mayor of of in Francisco and here's what she said yesterday: Nancy Pelosi when it is its absolutely outrageous. Obviously cannot continue, but the fact is that there is an added to over. Lawlessness and our country that springs from. I dont know where maybe you do yes, I do and we cannot have that lawlessness so here here's the thing all she's she's, claiming she doesn't know what caused this lawlessness. It's been her and people like her who have allowed
people to set fire to our cities, and it's the progressive policies. Now this particular mayor. It was, I think, in June, she said I'm all end were cutting the budget's we're doing all kinds of different things. What's how she change what happened to her that maker given a her, this pivot point well, you know, there's this famous old slogan from, I think the seventies witches liberal become concerned is when they are moved by reality, and I think that's just what happened here I mean yeah strike. Eu research Francisco in Mayor Breed was one of the first progressive mayors to cough defining the police. She announced a hundred and twenty million dollars and cuts to the budgets of both the San Francisco placing sheriffs Department just last year.
We ve seen the results on the ground. I mean things are absolutely chaotic, it's hard to describe if you're, not here, but we have the older than worsen, problem of ST addiction, open air drug scenes, opener drug markets with a- I went. Homicides, have obviously increased on the contrary, certainly in the Bay area, particularly in Oakland, but also in San Francisco, and then we ve seen this just greater audacity and brazen? This of this really looting. Smash rob. Robberies organised on Snapchat thieves, go in a luxury department, stores, stealing design, handbags and really giving lie to the claim by air sea and other on the progressive laughed. You claimed that, oh, that these are those poor people, stealing bread. Survive, and we need that are stealing luxury handbags for money, so
and then selling them openly on the street, and and not being hassled right. That's right! Exactly I mean we will unite talk before this all boils down to a victim ideology. The idea that you can divide the world and people in the world into victims and oppressors and that to the victims every should be given a nothing required, and I that they basically started the day has stopped him were seen many laws against people that they they deem to be victims, whether their drug attics mentally ill people, breaking laws in that's, what's given basically permission to all of this increase criminal activity, so do use I think that this is another shell game. I mean look there are. There are marxists that want to completely different system. I think there are will they call themselves progressives
that. Don't really understand what the progressive movement really kind of turned into, but that they they do agree. with the bill of rights, they do agree with law and order and they they ve another. They believe a lot of the same things I do which category. Is she in? Do you think? Is this just another marxist the progressive that is now just gonna. Try. This hang on to power. or do you think you're out changes are open, are on the table here I mean you're asking exactly the right question, which is there's a lot of progressive people that kind of go back and forth one or two views one view as I would call a more liberal view, which you believe that we all have the same police we I'll be under the same laws. This is the foundation of our constitution, the foundation of our civilization, which is equal rights under the law. There's another view,
which says. No. We have to have this radical change. We need to get rid of the police. We have some completely different group of people. in our role, the laws. Should be enforced differently depending on your Europe. dignity, or your experience and illegal the difference is like this one. Once people want to reform the police who doesn't want that. He doesn't want to make the police better as a group that wanted to get rid of them, and I think that you can use heavily emotional moments like last year, the George Floyd video nobody could that cannot be horrified by. Nobody could watch that do not want to see police reform correct that in those emotional environments the radical left takes advantage of people's genuine sympathies and anyone, empathy is particularly liberals. They manipulate them to suggest that we should somehow abolish the police or deef on the police. In fact, the research is very clearly that if you want to reduce police violence. You actually have to fund
the police, USA need more police officers or that they have the time to get the training that they need on your book, you you had it and I'm going to try to remember the anecdote. But you you talk to someone- and you did a bunch of interviews for this book and really illustrative of what what the issue is here and it was about someone a theoretical situation where frat boy a hammered. wrong. Frat boy comes out in front of somebody's house and goes to the bathroom on the sidewalk. Versus the actual problems that are going on in San front Francisco, really with almost people at others? Doing that same thing, and it seems like advocating for completely different treatment of these people. If one is really bad and what is it? You got it. I mean this was you're. Referring to this conversation right confront, for lead attorney with the ACL you and I say, you're, saying that you should enforce laws against, say public defecation. If the person that's doing it is
mentally ill or addicted to hard drugs, and she said well, you have to make a judgment. I mean if it's a frat guy urinating my dry way than he should be arrested. But if somebody with mental illness, they d and other social worker, and here the first of all, that's just not actually how that's not the best way to deal with the problem. I dive talk about how Europe deals with that very liberal Europe. You arrest people for committing crimes and yes at the jail house, in front of the judge with a psychiatrist, they are evaluated for whether or not they have a mental illness or a drug. Action and often the alternative is rehab or psychiatric care the mentally ill. But we don't do that and we started that actually any. Actually, I think we ve made a worse. We then given them free homes, and you know it free apartment with apps Lee, no
responsibilities, no responsibility, you don't have to become clean and sober Egon. Just keep doing what you do, but now you're inside you got it and in San Francisco describe how in cash, giving house into people's serious mental illness addiction with no on ability results in worsening of their disease and often death, and so but at bottom. It's this idea. Somehow the law should be enforced differently or that people should not be arrested for certain crimes when in fact it actually arresting people for those crimes. They often gets them the help that they need, while of course also protecting public spaces. Public Dignan, d? You know an instant cities themselves, so it's really. We have created the work.
about world. They both create increased human suffering and the destruction of our greatest city, so that of those two categories of people, the ones who just want radical change in and those who, just or sea. Problems? And you know why to fix things, but there within parameters where is this do you feel the movement of the first category? Do you feel like that is starting to change and they are starting to say. Look, I think, there's a dick and between a Democrat and you guys, or a yeah. I think for sure I mean you know, the EU is a breed. The thing that's been happening is that the progressives came to power in San Francisco, oh and breed. Even this as mayor she's a week mayor not due to any fault of her own, but because the system those are very little power. She's on this, broader board of supervisors have controlled by progressive breed
serve the last generation of the moderates and she's been outgunned really for years by the progressives. So I think, were seen as moderates coming back You know you should ask: where will the future bring this? the really dynamic moment it's a really chaotic moment. So, truly that we don't know it depends on what all of us do. I mean I mean we ve organised parents have kids killed by found, no parents of kids addicted to hard drugs increase and almost It is well recovery. Attics we ve created a coalition called the California Peace Coalition were actually says, a nation wide, because there's been so much demand for this nationally. We ve put on pressure on these guys. Privately publicly. We felt protests of drought. Dealers in away and in San Francisco, and I tell you, It has an impact on the response from people to our protests was basically what took you so long, yeah, no and we're like look we're the first ones, protests in drug dealers but
he had an impact. We have also seen the community's most affected by opener drug dealing, which of course, are poor communities, mostly minority communities, David I'll start having marches and protests in what so trusting glanced at that's exactly what worked in other. The world, including the Netherlands, including Europe, took the communities the p pull themselves from those neighbour. It's getting organised, demanding change. That's was led the mayor to take action. She did the crime, obviously wasn't enough. It really took this kind. outrage this action by the people by the parents by those communities to get this change your heart by the mayor. I read a story in the New York Post today that said that it was those it was the people from the community and She was forced to look at it in and and would attend and would actually talk to people and she was like you know what were wrong on this. We gotta moved
The people and the people usually have. The answer is: whether or not the politician is humble enough to listen to the people. Michael. Thank you So much for everything you do and and have a great holiday season, there's so much me back, I'm glad you too happy holiday. You bad Michael Shallenberg. He is the author of San Francisco, the founder and president of environmental progress. All the things that you would think I really don't like, but I find this guy very, very reasonable and you know, he's the author of Apocalypse never which is you. Gotta have a book to me. I have to have those of them are really really greatly acolytes. Never has so many things will go back to over and over and over again when you're debating the environment with your friends- and he was the guy Time magazine said- is the hue RO of the environment, who won the green book of the year in two thousand a stir doing more and more researchers like this? This is not that what they're saying is not true. Yes, the environment is important and in trouble, but it's now
gonna kill us all. It's not like what they're saying and I dont know. If any of these solutions that they're saying are the good bright solution. The guy is an honest broker of information, and we have far too few of those, especially those who came from the progressive left Michael show. Berger, its name back in a minute Now, if you know anything about me, you know that I love eaten snacks. Any really don't have to know much about me. You just see a picture of me in your, like that's a snack eater right that's a guy and expert, that's an expert on snacks, and so, when you're coming to somebody and asking about snacks, You can go to my wife or or LISA Stews wife, and they can about healthy snacks yeah great and I can't wait to hear more rights I can tell you about good snacks. Now. Here's the best thing about bill bars are. Why
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particularly with taking resources down. I wanted to document once and for all the price as anti and from the other side of Mexico, what what the journey a child takes, but the go flights, the buses, the troops, and so we were documenting this whole process and in the middle of documenting the process, as it would be, we fall the boss to the to the porter, processing centre in Del Rio and the bus. Interroll reaffirming the bus, all legal border patrol came out said: hey thanks for your help and support. Just don't you know to the premises, stay where you are good as the bus end there's a border patrol office sir. In his Toyota, Tundra truck exits differ Thirty stops cold looks our group. I makes eye contact with one of our arms where's our senior members of our team. and floors is vehicle in Wales out peels out and whips. The vehicle right and strikes.
One of our senior members runs are over, but the interesting thing is this: ten of us standing in the group- He misses me by four inches. Somehow, MRS seven other people its frightening frightening video, but wait until you hear the follow up that we're gonna show you the video of what happen on the border, with a border patrol officer on people who are trying to help them, and now the state is involved great story to follow up the sins programme. maybe the hard working God fearing family oriented people living in this country that constitute the majority shared a little something called american values. Well, I think People are still, the majority were disquiet. We will mean what're, you gonna do. You gotta, you had a replacement for you know Monday night football. you have a replacement for four Disney, but he do
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we're sitting here, watching some amazing video from Yo boons. He is the president founder of share together now dot org you were cut. the crisis on the border, because you are watching. I mean it is clear child asking is happening at an enormous rate, and so you were tracking all the way from the MAC inside. All the way to here in Amerika and not just to the border guard, but also oh they're, gonna put him on a plane and they're gonna send them someplace else to Florida. To Alexandria Airport in in in writing and in it was the Anna up to wherever in the? U S, a process of the chill and coming into the country, making the point that The notion which we can keep every child safe, that our president, make that notion is, is incorrect and and
children end up in the hands of traffickers in the? U S so now, you're following the bus and you go to one of the stations for the border patrol where their processing, these kids, you follow the boss, but you don't go in the border people come out and say: hey thanks for the support, blah blah blah, you're standing there on the edge and I'm gonna show a video you'll, be able to hear what it's doing. A truck comes out like a ram trucker something there was a hundred ok and at this time comes out. It has a border guard in it can see his face. He pulls. peace stops. He look It somebody who is with you of senior member of our team, a female, ok and was filming the bus right, she's filming, and he, slams down the accelerator. You'll hear the car peel out and then you'll hear the thumb of being hit, listen watch
There's a bus going in now comes the border patrol agent in apparently is person I mean that's my god. I mean that's, that's insane and for what reason doesn't know us and if he did for a minute. All we do is support law enforcement, but then he fleas the scene of the crime. He gets chase down to a red light, fleas again and it turns into a massive debacle because he is a border patrol agent in uniform unfortunately, it when you talk of the video to you, he's not even looking forward, where you would normally look when you're driving he's looking directly like at with eye contact at this woman who judges treasure run over
Dobbs. His vehicle comes to stop center and stop as protocol for them, and I found that Algeria, as the gate has to close behind them, so that no one can sneak into the gate. So he follows that protocol so he's at least with wherewithal for that yeah, and he knows I mean he's clearly looking at you guys on the corner and his ten April. That is looking at he's, not just looking at looking at at this particular women, but which, don't see. He misses me by six. Inches may be enough for me to to touch the truck to slap, decided the truck to yell. Stop. Did you just truck a human being with vehicle. Oh now eat you might say, and this this this will shut separate, this show from the laughed and arrest of media. You might say that guy. I thought you were of lefties we're trying to outdo bad things to the border patrol. Even if That's true. I hope he goes to jail, you don't be too aegis.
don't do that. You say that you just think this is something that is showing how closely are just to stopping the pressure there under going. You do such a great champions too, on the show of disconnecting dots for America. You do an amazing jobs if we just continue that threat connecting dots earlier that day and the day before I have interviews with state trooper- And what you have to remember notches bore patrol we're using State Trooper National Guard. Texas guard. This is this is copy book the message on the border. Anybody you talk to, sir, we are here to support the refugees. And I say son is twenty five. No, you sign up for the? U S National guard for different reason enough, sir we're here to support the refugees. May you could say They're, not refugees, sir we're here to support the refugee somewhat. That says to me- and I look at this- pressure that our law enforcement agents on the border are under because of the administration. The message and ended, and the edict
and the mantra from the by an administration they're going to crack you're going to see this happen more. more and more more. We say border patrol agents commit suicide This is a result, I believe, of an unholy pressure. it's on our law enforcement from the administration. Because can you imagine, every day after day I'll show you kids, being fished out of the river. If you see that as a border patrol agent in you know, you're not deterring illegal immigration, that press who's gonna mount up, somebody's gonna snap, but you are Seeing charges against him. Yes, and so this is federal, so the district attorney is taking it. It's even in the attorney General taxes is office at the moment and the job this against him by the state? Not even by us, is aggravated assault with a deadly weapon which is a felony and then second felony fleeing the scene of a crime there's going to be civil suit by the women who were struck by the vehicle rightfully so but
a federal suit. Let's get even got nothing do with her so he's he's in serious hot water at this moment, and he do. We know a thing about him and his record. Do and look it's public knowledge, is names Roberta Doran, no reference to the boxer, but but an he's been with border patrol for a long time, the calm Bobby and What we know no prior behaviour like this, which again tells me it's just- is the snapping disguises having that he doesn't know us he's, never had any interacts if he knows anything about a school- and you know we'll know, these guys are with us. fight forest area. The day before we delivered goods to border patrol physical breeze horses right. So I think this so it's unfortunate he has to. Of course he acted. Individual and will see whether the state feels that the pressure was he was, What does it matter still? He should still should pay for by a form of crime. I mean you know four the scheme is said, is also
de as bad as the first one. I mean you know too bad decisions. Yeah, you make a mistake. You dont flee the miss. You don't flee the scene and I think the peeling out of the tires. Intentional yes, speak. Sir, speaks volumes, thank you for everything that you're doing. Let let me ask you one more question when they filed this, I have heard that is nine eyewitnesses, nine eyewitnesses whose at sworn affidavits on site pity, this very serious piteously right it himself from border patrol, because people can arrest them. That's gotta. Come from us is a whole is a debacle on four. They going when that case was fine. by pity, to the dutch To turn its office yesterday, they omitted to enter the. witness reports or the video how, How is that possible? Not amend its possible if it's done intentional? It's not in the case file. So now we had to go to the district attorney
also notified the attorney general to say: look, nine eyewitnesses, signed effort, If it's on site, none of its in the case file to problem there's so much cover up at the border. Glenn there's some such a minutes, it's insane what's happening down their guy. who are working on the border. You can't just Let things fall where they fall. Let the chips fall where they may, please we eat button I believe most people in the union states are with the border patrol you start covering you start doing anything like this. I know the pressure I know, but you ve got, b on the up and up- and I am I right- we truly dont think I believe- and I know
ninety. Nine percent of our are border patrol, are Reno law enforcement officials etc, etc? Are good guys don't make excuse? it is for the bad guys. Let that ships fall where they may. We ve got have somebody, we trust, and if you start doing stuff like this, you our trust and then, when we have what we have Jago. Thank you, much. Thank you. Thank you to keep us up to speed on on what happens. Become very apparent in recent months that what the current administration lax in knowledge, on what causes inflation in also lacks the knowledge of what it what it takes to fix it. now the problem is the FED came out yesterday and said that they're going to raise interest rates three times significantly raise interest rates is what they said three times. Next year. Ok, that's good, however,
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take your opponent away in handcuffs complain about it. Never talk to write exactly, but so far so good theory is on the border situation. This is Rhonda Santa's from last night. The story is that you are using migrant children for political purposes, I assume this is because the Your government flew illegals, in to your airports in the mid, of the night without alerting anyone. Is that correct. Not only did they do that land, I one of the people that they brought in who they said was a minor but was actually twenty. Four years old then committed a murder in the Jacksonville area and so Edward provide Biden running this border. The way is, and then ferreting people out indifferent communities, including Florida, that terrible crime would have never happened. Would Biden is doing? Is he
is conducting the largest human smuggling operation in the history of our country, this is intentional. Donald Trump had policies that were working, he read first, all those knowing what the result would be. I will I talk to her about he's dead, serious about these. The shipping, two marthas vineyard, really yeah. He said the I have to get the money and I if you need a bridge loan I now me- and he said he said I think we're gonna get the money from the state to do it. He said, but this has got to stop and so when they have another plain that comes in if we said it's like CIA stuff. We don't know when they're coming in and they'll just land, he said but we'll find out when the next plane is coming in. If we catch them, he said what Just gonna. Take them gonna put em on another plain and we're gonna sentiment: Marthas Martha's, vineyard.
and he said you know it's it's time. We stop this nonsense and I told him if you can't get the money call us we will raise eight million dollars for it to do that. With that that we can do that, we can do for for a plain loads of people going to Marthas Vineyard and Delaware yeah. We are, I think we can do that, we can do better, be an honour to do that. Harry is on running for governor and also running for president cut eleven now you're gonna be running for governor, but they're gonna. You know any opponent of yours is going say he is just using the Munich a tutorial offices as a step stone in Florida, you're, nothing but a stepping stone to the White House. How would you respond to that. Well. Nobody is poor, their heart and soul into this job. More than me, I d give you look at that. What we ve been able to achieve
get me a going across the state meeting with people delivering on promises. You know that It's all about its all. About leadership and working Continue to do its also interesting, like you know, I don't go around saying anything about about twenty. Twenty. Four, like that's all, just speculation that gets imposed on me when I have my opponents will actually say you know. If you re elected governor, then he's gonna eventually get elected to something else. Aren't they acknowledging that I've been a successful gun you back and let it up. You know you must have done something right and people are saying all this stuff, so you know, but from them beginning of the one I ran for governor it or we can Take it one day at a time, and I want to say what can I get? What more can we be doing on a daily basis and so were very active, and when I became governor I told myself whoever succeeds me. I want them.
to be off the phone they're not going to have a lot to do, because I'm going to take everything. I can the low hanging fruit, the difficult fruit and we're going to knock it out, and you know we have one. If you look at my inauguration speech ivo, accomplished everything I said I would do then, and then we done much more and that's the thing so we politicians promised big and then way under deliver. We did promise. Big too, but we ve actually over delivered on those big promises. I will. I will tell you that I think that he's not gonna run for president and twenty two really. I think he's gonna run for governor then, when or not. Dress are not in twenty two. Twenty four, I think is going to run if dropped doesn't run, then maybe, but drop, runs he's not going to he's just gonna, but in that state up he's doing rate job in a in a police state. and do you know they like him? They, like him
he's doing a great job. I think, if Trump runs, he won't wait for years to climb programme.
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