Chapter five inside the digital Gluck defector in California. On the afternoon of May knife, nineteen sixty eight nondescript seventy six year old russian manner. For low Level Communist Party member, a technician in the people's Commissariat of machine tools, Gould prisoner and defector was paid. A visit That is bungalow in San Francisco, South Bay and mountain view. California, the devil you see is in the details over thirty years before, on January, twenty nine nineteen thirty seven otherwise, unremarkable day beyond. That is over being with a third of the three very public Moscow trials. He admitted some twenty seconds of barely audible, grumblings at an inopportune time and

within earshot of an end cavy officer his otherwise inconsequential browsing proved decisive. Unbeknown to him, placed on a list of socially dangerous elements right. Deviation, honest Right deviation, as was the particular designation written in the column to the right of his name of every nineteen thirty seven in the middle of the night he was arrested and soon The gulag camp, surrounded him exactly five years later to the day his confinement ended as abruptly and inexplicably as it began His sentence had been served and he was released he returned to his home town of or Bergen toddy no longer recognised in it. Didn't her to him that he could no longer recognise as himself the self that he had once lived there.

Unrecognizable he would effect although it have endured five years of arbitrary and pointless cruelty at the hands of his comrade prosecutors, he found escaping belief much more difficult than scaling. The metaphorical iron whose inside was covetous guarded by a line of resolute sentinels, believing that any slippage through the Berlin Wall near the city center. Their death- and it did- but our defective- reduce the number of potential executions, not by attempting to escape on foot. Instead, he became cargo. A childhood friends would become a pilot with Aeroflot the only soviet airline and with flights that carried only cargo humanity, To convince his friend transport him out of the country, he was stowed in a wooden create and loaded into a plain headed for Riga, the capital of Latvia.

No report hangar his childhood friend pride open the wooden box, where he lay motionless now from a safe distance. He saw the entirety of his existence in a new light. Never. He had believed he believed, because not believing meant ceasing to exist what was best to believe it depends on what, on the consequences of not believing but What did the belief guarantee nothing to be precise? Why not

because ones belief, insured nothing about the belief of others. Their believes could suddenly change or their shared belief might eventually reveal itself as mass delusion and no one was safe in a state of collective insanity. This is from your new book. Michael yes and it's very different from the rest of the book. It is all of a sudden we're just in this chapter in view skies life in what jumped out at me was a It's very poetic, it's beautiful writing, but this if distance he was from a safe distance, and now he could see that what where he did did matter

yeah, you can believe it. You can profess a belief you can actually believe it or not believe it, but it doesn't guarantee your safety ever right exactly as us we're getting up and also that the belief in a place like this, where, where leaf is enforced in its enforced through until tearing means you MA. Believe, or at least pretend to believe, or else your ear in trouble and where they are now in America were real. Starting here we are and you're starting to see that it doesn't matter She believed done matter. Even if you are on the side, the quote rights aid for a while, if you don't travel with them and their belief. Doing. I can change changes and it changes and seems to have changed in the mass insanity, the next liner that you stop, that he see asylum in the United States What is an asylum?

a place where crazy people. Now so the question, then, is going to be what happens there, and so what happens when we move the mountain view? California, so that's the heart of Silicon Valley. He does not yet, though his heart of Silicon Valley, but it will be another time things get very interesting for em when those agents are having a knock at the door, and you know in other suspense, thereby as to whether they are going to be like the former checker. And deal with them accordingly or something else. Along the way, but why why Why did you write this in story? Focus? Your book is your book is about digital gulags near that are being built. It is, it's it's argumentative its exports.

Pros it is speculative, I admit their speculation and there it is. Fiction that I thought that I should have liked an interlude action, that's just not. You know, that's not really that far from reality and that it would give us the experience of being inside the digital do log. Yet the Google Archipelago so explain what that is from a good archipelago is, is the electronic digital paper media version of the good luck. I think it is going to be base of mass and total surveillance, a place of where everyone's movements are tracked, traced recorded, where Everything is known, is an omniscience of sorts and there are going to be all kinds of policing ramifications involved, so first well, let's archipelago,

is a is a collection of island, that's right, and so, when you say it's, the Google archipelago you're saying that that's just this is one. That's just one island where there's a emblematic island of the horror Capella GO, which consists of other islands like Facebook, like Instagram, like giving gloody anything. Read the question: well, they funded a lot of CIA. They funding to Google at the outset, This was an intelligence project to begin with, they wanted to use the internet to as on data mining. Opportune because of an unprecedented opportunity today to mine data and so they funded some very clever people at Stanford and around Silicon Valley, and those p Those people became Google, what one part of them- and you know that I'm not

you know particularly that alarmed about that aspect, cause DARPA has funded a lot of research. The internet itself has, of course, military, in word and origins. So the question becomes what what becomes very thank you know so it has the potential, of course, to be authoritarian when it comes from a kind of a basis. So I think that there is a couple things that left keep saying. We're towards fascism word had for its fascism. Well, welcome to the party. We ve been saying that for awhile At the same time they say things like so, let's give the government dollar guns. Yes, so there's this this this disconnect and from what they're saying too, they're saying they want to do. Let the government is a problem, let's grow the size of the government, but what

I mean to me is that that's where the right has always said. Okay, we have to have small government during the real massive, unilateral right sure we to control the size of the government, but corporations are ok, yeah corporations actually more frightening. Now then, any government, because the government is restrained by the constitution, but these s private organizations. They have now. If those restrictions on those restrictions and there and their arbitrating our speech rights at this plan- expression right in what you talked about. In fact, let me see if I can find the exact line that you you said You I can't find it now, but you you talk. About how you are you're You raised the array There is the end, former Soviet Union Mute.

Disappear and you can be disappeared, ready. We call, you would be disappeared, it you'd be dead, peered in the middle of the night. You know the guard, they would come to your house, you now and and and and I am basically pull you out of your house and you'd be online and mainly with nobody would ever knowing, as we know, has. As you know, your children will be left behind your my right. We left behind and you'd be gone right, and this happened routinely remain solzhenitsyn, talk about it quite logically right and in But the point is that you, it's like you do even right because you really didn't wanna, ask questions or you might face the same fate and so Oh you're just gone yes, and the thing is this: is it I mean in the Google are, Poland is not so much corporal, however, yes is just is much easier to delete a piece of data than it is. A corporal human being guess so,

it's a socially and it's a social death in effect because a few deleted so additionally, in effect, your God, if you are I mean everybody noses if you are homeless, you're, invisible, yes, say: you're invisible, but you walked down the streets of any city, especially city. Like New York, you're walking down the city, you don't even get eye contact. People don't even look you that's right, even though you are there and there's a number of almost people all around your invisible and one of the biggest problems, there is the lack of did of of actual documentation to prove you are somebody right and also that you have an address or something something that they can send a check to or something right. But if that's all gone you sickly unknown person, so we're not talking about we're, not talking about scooping you up in the middle of the night and putting you in

illegal logging and a wall we're talking about in the middle of I urge is deleted, you don't have a bank, you don't write credit cards right, you do We have the rights of a licence, maybe perhaps you You are nobody body, unscheduled media, so you're travelling gone you travelling to London, New York, Paris, whatever You know you're relying on digital technology to be able to go to allow tower to do anything and what you're just the person in the process, because you ve been critical of something. Are you said something wrong? and they have put you. A list of dangerous persons. Interestingly enough that language dress persons is the eggs, same language, that Facebook is using in their policy manuals. The same words as this The union used really, yes,. This is I've been saying this for years. What's coming, we had dinner,

the other day was yes, I was enjoyable we were talking about. We were talking somebody at the table that has a very different viewpoint. Pointy of of China and Hugh and for both saying you don't get it now, you don't stand, the digital world on what's coming and people I really think that is oh some sort of sigh, fine nightmare and when you talk about technology you know, oh it sky nets gonna get a kind of sure Skynet, just not a movie kind. It's gonna be very quiet. I likewise running this book I was like crazier. What an m would read deeper and the further out doesn't know it's worse than I thought. Then I would write more and renouncing MA. Am I going off the edge and then I go deeper and it's worse than I thought, and this has continued every single person. I know that has done their real.

Really intelligent people on both sides. The aisle every it was done their research, they say something really. It's worse than I Sadly, worse than I thought visits the we're we're too books. We don't have a problem right but may was empty and maybe some left as yet not relent bright. We all know If somebody was out saying we're, gonna have a bonfire of books, we don't have a problem rain, but maybe maybe some left as yet not relent bright most. Of us would have a problem. We are taught book. Burning is bad because in the past s rent, but just like all of the atrocities in the past, it history doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme. I end is rhymes. With book burning, all of a sudden. Those books are no longer available there, no longer on the shelf there. There they ve just disappeared, and when you

All digital things can disappear overnight. And they can change. Yes, They can change. I mean when Google was, you know. I was one of the first adopters of Google books because I thought I was doing deep. Research into nineteenth century study, and I was be. I was able to find periodicals. That's great that I used to have to go dig in our case and in all England for and I was able to see this is like a cornucopia oversight. Tell this wonderful! Yet you know but said I I start to think of them when they want you to recognise that its there's an effectively the scary is what happens to them because they are digital. Now, everything is is really is in femoral its effects. There's no there's an end lie. Brands are saying that they're taking out looks out of the library that are not acceptable, and they're getting rid of them and replace it

without a box and we don't even and then those books are unavailable physically, we don't know whether they are going to be preserved. Digitally at all, right, so This is the ratio of history, which is a very big. It's all It's been a big tool of those Terence. You must erase history parts history, history that contradicts what you're after history. That is against what you're going for really in away its Fahrenheit Fahrenheit and what is a fairly form of one Sophia, fifty one on four February on the internet for fifty one without the fireman, you don't need that in Ireland. Only the farmer- you don't know the farmer answer that it only the book burning and yet you don't need summer, because you have digital the addiction. As you put it, you know this is a diction, I'm afraid and the digital addiction has been very seductive, so strong people

and to a very seductive space, but to what at what cost that Russian there's other things too too. I think be concerned about that people aren't thinking through now. That Your manipulate the manipulation. Are you familiar with Cason steam? I'm sure cast sons, dean, you know as a behavioral. Scientists and there's nothing wrong with that. But when you start look being at the behaviors you look for a way to manipulate people and that's what his book, nudge was about him and he's very much cut from. You know the cloth propaganda. Now You know he was. He was the father of propaganda.

Later changed it to advertising. Has led only because we saw how propaganda was used, but he was a father agenda. Began to now is is is an algorithm. So it's not a pretty posts. It's not a film using rats to make. You think people are rats. It's just algorithm can it's? It's, not you it's what you make hard to find. And in what you make easy to find theirs. Very curious phenomenon has been going on ass. Well, there sour some groups that I am to be anti this information groups that are in fact the most prolific. This formation groups that exist. Should I say the name of an urgent resolution killed now: you're gonna, new knowledge, new knowledge, dot com, I'm never going what they did They were the ones who testified to the sun and about the russian Botz rain, who

supposedly influencing thee relax, tromp election two thousand and sixteen election in the two thousand eighteen election in exile, Vampa of the garden was running for yeah I can't remember his name had some issues. They brought up grandma anyway they create in russian Botz and put them. On the web in support of him. In order to show that he was backed by the sun by the Russians. They produced the Disan formation itself, I die not familiar with this, using the New York Times and noble and wash, whilst that even the New York Times admitted this happened, and this group was funded by a billion air. Has a democratic thunder can remember his name. I don't look at things that way so much I'm looking at the trends and what's happening in this group, new knowledge is like This is emblematic of what

it's going on. It's like they are to this information, Google is to information racks, their schooling, its death. Their creating what they say. They are the solution for its unbelief visit the website. Is it paints them as like this, These good guys that are sorting out all the garbage and failures and iter that those who are who proclaiming fake news are making it look there the biggest airs it's almost the same story of the southern Poverty LAW Centre those who say that there is standing against hate their hanging around haters the it's really right near the fair. You know me like a fair cycle culture, Where are we headed eyes? I said in nineteen. Ninety five

on the air. What am I producers? Who still with me? He said I will never forget, because he remember singing crazy- and I said, there's coming a time very soon, where you will not be able to believe your eyes or your ears that you will be to recreate anybody saying anything you will swear it is and you'll be, what do the same thing with with video and here we are on, I think two thousand and twenty election is where it's going to really start to hit the fan. You have that ability now in your face and the the voice, which was the one that was lagging behind, that is getting to the point where you can't tell the difference. Gotta, I think it's, Joe Rogan harm and see back and forth. You can't tell the difference. Is all visually reproduce? Rightly. Mass engines can just make him say absolutely arising from what happened:

to a society when the There is no one, you can trust and the ones who say now you can trust us or a visa, before are the most right least trust me People are the ones that are manipulating things round the yes, that's where we are Google's, one of them, of course, and this new knowledge group others, others and the internet. There is an interesting show this to be symmetrical. Ok, it's very curious. How this russian bought story kept floating around in going on for three years. Because there was a group that actually help a digital corporation that help trump when Cambridge Analytical they did do Digital manipulate. It wasn't it wasn't the fairy us there was nothing illegal, but what they did is there they did a psycho graphic profiles of every single American,

and then they fed them dark adds. That means adds that no one else can see on Facebook steered them into different into a certain position so how even that even the let liberal media misses the real story wishes. Which were actually favour them. Instead, Ngos with This'Ll lunacy scrapped, you know why I don't get. It saw play this out. Michael What happens to society like this I mean, I think, It's usually an eighty year cycle usually for You know you fall into totality Arianism and you and you climb back out of any eighty years union, this one. There may not be any climbing out there there's something about digitization, the print. This is collectivism and in what way in this book. It is complicated and a sense, but it's easy to its easy.

Aggregated data and when people effectively data. It's really easy to aggregate people and so They start to use not these again you're getting collectivized through algorithms hashtags different things like that, and that's what they're doing. Creating these. I can't digital nihilism. Chapter in the book of Digital Mile, as amended, might sound crazy, but once you read it, I think you'll think It makes the case you make the case now Well, it wasn't my term I borrowed itself in that gives me a little bit of unhealthy Abed Jerome Lonnie is brilliant guy that he climbed the term in office in two thousand and six? here he was really talking about work, a pity and how this hive mind of editors was France's, in particular with his own website. Or in his own site, on Wikipedia late, we're saying all kinds of all things that he was like now I can tell you the truth about me: great movement. You just listen, and there like now right

and they had. We are no authority here. We are right now, so this high mind decided on what he was and it wasn't the falstaff. I have the same thing. I think it might still even beyond their that I was arrested for drunk driving. I've never been arrested. My life ever driven track in my life, and it's on there and I You have a removed and couldn't remove. It. Is my life you are not where you are not a trustworthy source someone's from yourselves? Sorry, I am that's what he found. He founded the play of these, as this is crazy ass. You know, but gone further than that, since we got twitter mobs? Of course, You know using hashtags and all that is clear, in all these kind of, like red guards. Type attack dogs, you all energy insanely, very lent and fierce and destroy the structure of people. You know people weirdo technique.

People say that people have committed suicide over these Bedoya. The stuff, so this is a collective zation, that's happening and the EU think thing is this. The law have believe that when they are in a collective they are being radical best, that's the whole definition of politics. Their definition of politics is this. We are we have to collective eyes in order to have power against the big guys with the mummy and everything else. If we don't join forces and have solidarity amongst ourselves, we can combat the powers that be so selective Is there basic premise for all politics now the thing Yes, they can be formed into believing they're doing something political just because they are in a collective and that's what's going on

on the internet. They think they're being political, but there actually being used by, but I think our corporate globalists and so they think, while we're really were really woke were were attacking all these people, especially those that are called dangerous by the Google archipelago, we're we're driving down the evil. People were tracking them downward, destroying them right, but that they are not getting the picture. Are actually supporting it. Well I've. You could say that about. Let's just take Google and Facebook they truly believe they're doing good, oh, yes, and they actually believe it while their helping places like I know- and I know that was project in fly raised, there were those who stood up and said? No, I can work with you if you like this there back in bed

with China and the Andrea different name, but they're back in bed with China, and I do I really don't understand how the workers, the in the regular person doesn't see. This is a really bad idea where helping. China scuba p all they want to stand up against their government. Yeah where's disconnect Michael well. Now I think maybe it's birds of a feather stick together. I think that they, share the deeply a shared deep ideology cherry leftism- that this is like that, it's ok, there came to these pit this whole idea. Yes, I mean there's been a number of people have said. China's the model- yes right, some

Our future is the motto of the future, because what it has both the prophet incentive for the mass of corporations, plus it has the total control of the population. That's the model for certain types. Now, I'm not saying that capitalism altogether at all, I'm a free market person. I've. That I believe in a free market, but that's not a free market, its that's a day, and neither are we now we are also salute the Google archipelago. I'm saying is ingratiating itself to the state and vice versa, and this is giving them state power are going to hear. No, it's funny any time. You look this up in history, any time companies rush for legislation and to have restrictions and regulation, but I guess it's because they know therein trouble usually it's because of collapse. I need protection from the

oh god, what it does is protect them is makes the pop it makes the cost of entry higher. Yes, this keeps the competition out its arrived, some monopolistic, bereft, correct here and so this time you have these, corporations coming and everybody I don't know what I'm. I don't know what I'm more worried about. How I think I I think I know I think we would rather have the chinese com, end of of the government control. Then this illusion of government not being in control and it's the it's those huge companies that are in bed with a government that don't have of any rules that they can't make up overnight. Thinking change their rules constitute. Can't change. Yes, if it's a private company taking up any rule, they want a change of every day if they wanted and the other scare them

The other reason for that, I think, is that when you have a tool, call state it's pretty. It's pretty I say- is pretty natural to oppose it, but when Europe you're talking about a corporate total, terrorism. I thank which is like a state that's being effectively off in our past. After the corporate powers that be and their running the their running, the stay there effectively amplifying and undertaking state functions. It's it's much more difficult to put to them and say this is what they are, because there their massing through other things, do example most Take Google and they're they're they're they're, ranking of website one day when you do a search

The face of this has been proven now to be completely a sham and fair. If it's not leftist, intrinsically they overwrite it and make it left a silver they disappear, fear hole, absolutely blacklist whole website they get rid of All kinds of news they into Youtube. Did this to think one of the one of these Congress. Persons data you to honour was a slate magazine writer. She did at Youtube search for abortion. To her chagrin, like the top ten searches showed negative stories about abortion, so she complained to Youtube and they changed it by the over the weekend by Monday, so that the story so that the less was now almost all pro abortion at the top. So how does that connect that? Can that that's like. Let's not exactly governmental, but in a way it is governmental. I mean it's. Their parole

they have a prerogative to do it and its harder to, like you said, every conservative will tell you I'm not for it elation, I'm not for breaking companies up, I'm not for I'm not, for penalised in companies that have succeeded unpunished success. This is becoming so clearly, every single person that I have ever spoken too in Silicon Valley. That is somebody we oughta in french fries. The Zuckerberg stout down to the main programmers who are looking at the architecture of what's coming. They all say the same thing Glenn the nation state is over the past year, sober and they think there right and they are- and I didn't understand that when they were talking about it, they were saying you know, so we have to have new rules and a new kind of understanding. The constitution won't work, the nation state is over, it's gonna be borderless, and I couldn't get

asked my small thinking of she's not could take a border down. No, the unites won't have to it, won't matter anymore, that's right, because the corporations will be able to control and move things across borders and and track who everywhere and in everything they want to do, and here's the twist This is why they are actually left us as their agenda matches the left's prerogatives. Almost point by point here. And it's incredible. This is a very big deception because of all anybody that says that, like the corporate Amerika, is embracing. Left aside ideology. Ology has considered alone, because you know the story goes: first corporations and and and capitalism always favours right wing ideology. It supports their interests of blood no way there. They would ever be left a straight, but it

actually is not the case, it's not that It's not always been the history case. Historically, there have been planning of leftist capless and this time you're always monopolised by the way like Gillette King, James Gillette Piano who was a core. Red socialist by now He was an avowed corporate socialist who thought that the corporation we come one and it would be to realising it would include everything all production and it would be the state simultaneously. This was Imagine nineteen ten isn't! That is the idea that the difference between national socialism and global Communism is part of it is its nation and, as opposed to gold goal, glow but it is also they do.

Necessarily take the property they allow. These companies have a thrill own years still on the company. That's right, but we're A dictate what you're doing, all the times, but we can come in and say no you're going to make this. I think I called in the United States- is more like a kind of deal banking. It's like, if you do. This, will do that. If you do this future, this will do that in a right. Italy, aside, trust legislation- if you do this this a third time, I thought about this since we were sitting down here, So let me just say it sets out of my mind. You know I've heard people, joking and our jokingly. Some people are series well enough. I've heard it with bill Bill Clinton Ease, bet easy Anti Christ stop at the end. Ground ass me. I'm guessing dessert,

Obama or or Donald Trump, were the pope or whatever yeah first of all, the Anti Christ. If there is an anti Christ it's coming here, he's going to be so damn slick, you're not going to be he's not coming, not come away. You think he's going to come, he's not going to look even her right and that's the same thing. Hugo boss. Is the one who designed the Nazi uniforms. It was he'll, go boss. So when you see those black ass ass uniforms, we now think they looked scary lack boots, no they were fashion. They may was a fashion, a statement. It look great winning rains so everything that is coming now, doesn't look like what you expect it to look like that when gear coming it it's coming in in ease and everything that you want everything the is coming when addressed in rhetoric, that site

that's wonderful, great equity, diversity and inclusion in all these hi noble sounding abstractions, which who could disagree with bright but supply have to what is really, it's really that language being used to two too to paper over what are they trying to use that language as its grim to cover, for we were founded, on the individual and our first amendment really covers that right to conscience, I have to do as an individual. I don't have to believe You tell me to believe, and I can say whatever I believe we're built on that everything that happening now is the exact opposite of that right, the final storage. This is just fighters region. Last last night I got it, I got a hotel room because I would want back. The Connecticut came back and I went

this place in Chinatown. They said the announced for three and a half our hotel, I've had it with that. For now go in and they say: you'll be an a dormitory with ten other man, s annoying long she said yes, you well, No, I don't have to stay here. It is in tiny anyway. Just to say you know, just this idea that I would have to do it, you know, but that's where we're headed near the end- and I don't- and because it's a corporation if the government is, is act by this corporation, where the government backs the corporation. There's no, but no police to run to know that their there have between them. There is some sort of hand in glove certain situation and between them there. There's no way to get two per annum apart, and there's no outside theirs

Simon them can intervene. So can you take? Can you take the average person And say. Ok. You know what your life is like today, but appears ten years. However, along it take the others to come, and I think it come sooner rather than later now we could be wrong on. The timing, but if we don't wake up, I dont think were wrong and what's coming yeah. So what. How does the average person's life change? How are they ex? How are they affected? Well, I mean if you know there seems to be a race between America. Are? U S and chinese AY implementation fright and, as you were talking about recent Nothing was there sat or maybe yesterday about what in a five g, whoever really develops five g first, and an connects, with their I potential there.

Going to win this race can explain, explained five g for Well, don't don't understand, it's gonna be a massively incredibly fast instantaneous internet, the gigantic pipe France of gargantuan bites, senior and instant data transfer like it's like there's no late and said nothing and it will be so the reason why we don't have self driving cars right now is because we don't have five tree, there's not enough band with the handle right cause it. To have a self driving car, we think of self driving cars as having these cameras sensors, but when it's acted to five g. This we're really scary. One is connected to five g. It will know who's in literally

Who is in the car next to you area and all around you and is constantly calculating it's taking them. The information packet of how that driver even drives yes, and if you're gonna be in an accident which one should I should go MO down the the person on the sidewalk, or should I mo down this route, and I regret at the Lima yeah I mean it's gonna have that kind of information with no latency emigrant constantly going to because it and so basically the way I put it- is that you now we go on the internet now right, it's going to be a very quaint and tourism very soon, you'll in the internet of course, so what's the difference between that and the matrix? Nothing except that your boy, but he's not underground serving as a battery that, if you let that fuel, we are actually here walking around me your data and your your digitized eyes, the matrix, but your physically here in the matrix you know so I mean this is

this means that basically, we're gonna be in ambient cyberspace, cyberspace, we'll be all space I mean you know, you could go to the Grand Canyon and you'll still be in cyberspace we'll be very rarely places that escape. This kind of complete surroundings, a cyber spy so it would be like being bathed in it. An effect so you're in it going into, will explain to me the difference like right now I'm in a studio. Your phones work in my funds were we of internet its wherein woods all around? It is so, what's that? differences that there be no b see tv cameras will be many more devices for for gathering in Mason and sending it's a different authorities depending on what what that is obviously, collecting it connect it to you and then, of course, connecting algorithms to you to predict few behaviors. So there

In fact, you could be followed because they have decided that, based on a certain pattern, you're gonna do something illegal on any minute, and as long as- Till the point where we have argued said reality and yard of everyday life and yet lasses its anyhow etc. When that happens can be easily nudged visually. He s like we are now when we're using arms are apps. You know we're looking for a place to eat, we got a yell, but we find it and it shows us how to get there will be. We can be nudged and also all the all these every bill. Google glass was supposed to give you information about everything and look tat. Rang This'Ll This'Ll be happening, it'll be just way more information and enough knows what it really will. What kind of every may have. Interesting being somewhat famous,

The disadvantage is, people think They know me and I dont know them at all fear, but they think they have heard that some people, the Bob Dylan, said that about being famous yes, weird, it's really weird but they don't really know- you know we're all kind of going this through this with Facebook. You know here, you're, not really showing who you really are arrays book. You're getting this snapshot needed if it's an accurate snapshot, it's only one snapshot, and so no the v the information that will be coming in front of your eyes will be that same information that could be skewed in one way or another. You'll have a living kind of Wikipedia that feeding your glasses or your eyes right. This is who this man is Ranger in, and we know now that this these alike,

self is not a neutral information source. It has an agenda, so Would we imagine that agenda wouldn't be spread into the entire cyberspace one? It's now everywhere. And so being in the b. In this are being in the internet means that means a lot of things. It means that that there, can we do it almost everything you even things inside residences of me now, but everybody will be pretty much unknown quantity in effect a wise and surveillance, is like talk about this in a further therefore, for the left Us Michel for call who was a post, modern theorists, wrote this up book called discipline and punish one thousand nine hundred and seventy five. Any talk about this thing called Panopticism, which I talked about in my first chapter

slip. Panopticon was invented by Bentham, Jeremy Bentham, the nineteenth century. Philosophical radical was actually left us by took his idea of this prison system which is a central tower and you're in these cell surrounding it. You can't look in, the power to see if the guard is in there, but they can look in see if you're in the cell right every single cell, it's it's like it's like a chimney with all of around chimney, all of the cells on the outside right and then Innocent centre is already I yes now. The thing is about this is that you dont know if you're being observed or not, but because The possibility of being observed at all times you become you around surveillance. Become your own put that you become the principle of urine subjection. It used to be it to be God, that's right.

He used to be got used to be got. That's where the conscience comes from, and I, like, I wrote paper by the militants, Paradise lost and talked about how God was the pet pan Optic guard and then because we would, you know he could see, because he can't see- and I believe we can- he can't see into our minds that we do our. Basically, accordingly or not, and that you know comes from that. Well, this kind of reinstalled, technologically and in our God forbid, God there is aid, there's a sect of technology people. Silicon Valley who, not sure if there are serious or they're just trying to make a point, but they have built a church, for these the a I god because they say a asked: I see her intelligence is going to be so God Light, yes, that we will worship it colonel

who became, who might have been taken for a total crank. For but he wasn't I know now is, of course, chief senior engineer. A Google he hears envision was that the, I didn't make the universe the universe will make. These are the human technology so that the universe will he calls it all the dumb matter of the universe, we saturated with knowledge, and wake up, beyond mission, because, though little know everything there is to know that makes it on mission right. It'll, be God will, and so, instead of God creating the universe, universe, great god- and this is the singularity. Now, it's gonna, be such a religious, wonderful, mystical, experiences tat. Now I don't think that way out the great always God is still programme.

At least initially by five model: human, flawed and and and and dreaming interested and and by the the worst thing I've heard Mark Bernie these guys say is- and we have a responsibility to make the world a better place. Nato no you don't not. As a corporation, our there, that's where you have responsibility to produce or product that people were wait a minute. You start to say, and you know what with this country the world; we can help shape it you're in very full danger in order to fully different register, totally and this is what I talk about this in the book in this first chapters called woke capitalism and what is going on with this. You know this. This woke corporate

mentality. Origo me a totally different view of of what was going unexplained. Woke capitalism, ok, melody Have you seen many instances of it like the advertisements, you now, for example, the Jalalabad speaking of Gillette, where they met toxic masculinity, was inevitable derived it envy. You know these guys are looking into the mere or not to shave, but two, too rude and try to exercise from their psyche. This horrible toxic masculinity, you know and then there's the scenes going on, in which all these men are doing these terrible thing. Predication on women, you know Mansplain in a which means you don't got to tell me, guided talking when woman is a round at the man's playing things like that and it Was this whole you out, this whole moral.

Rhetoric and this whole moral story. They were trying to pervade bout, have men should be bring, leaving say, do that right thing. Save the right thing, the right thing and I M so this you know and then the Capri Vow right thing and of their value, I think not all right thing that so that's very explicit, and the cap and I got in and then you have you talk to me about it. I had to figure charming and prove how virtuous they are right. Nike in the Betsy Raw Sneakers year sign My question was what is going on here. Ok, so, first of all its its though corporations embracing contemporary leftism now, anybody who knows the history of left in corporate Amerika knows it, it's been one of nothing but contention. So why are they now in love embrace this as well?

tortured may not tortured, but he turned to me and then I had to figure this out, as was the Basel and so going deeply into it. Looking at it and really trying to analyze- and I think that is very clear- that it is not just the marketing it is not just a await us. Assuage their customer base. Be in on play, K, dead, diverse peoples. It is part of their real agenda in its suits their perfect that their aims perfectly and your lad? I mean I've, studied the history of Gillette. Now, going all the way back to the beginning, they had an ad in nineteen o five. They had baby boy now there were saying that they want to train you early to say to the public that use be shaped by someone else, because that's a form of putting them into slavery, for you in night No fire, yes have to see that is that raises in the book.

Crazy, nineteen o five Gillette added said. I forget what the term what the byline, as on the average, basically start a media, they shaving yourself an end, its it seems kind of crazy to put it in a razor blade in the of an infant him. I mean I think they are trying to kill the letter, its aggressive nation lights. Lots sought cut their throats, now. There were saying that a train you early nazi depend on others. Did you don't use people use the gutters? Barbara get shave There was now be self sufficient, not only because it self Reliance and all that, if so, that you're not putting any one else at your service he's already starting this class Also justice, moralising from the start and of course he wrote we'll called World Corporation and nineteen ten in which he talked about the corporation that expand

subsumed all other corporations and finally becomes the singular monopoly of the entire globe, and the government at once seems like Google s throne Hannah you know, but and is only really could work with this kind of technology. It takes the digital world to make that possible is it takes digital digitization and high speed at high speed internet to Korea a World corporation, our world system, You know that it's it's amazing to me that all of the things I groped catholic winter covered.

And later to me ass, so you go into a seminary while he asked in a monastery, so you had to have learned about the book of revelation areas and all of it stuff seem like that's, never get lab, then he's never, there's no way. No currency everybody's got a now are counted. You be able to buy certain goods. Without the mark attire It's incredible! That's incredible! I mean to me. Well, you know what I think clear to me that that thus in others there's no way a human being could have known that right. Mean that this is divine inspiration and an ant and and and there's not a way of word no end kids, there no way. Any of that could have happened

in that their failure, and I don't know of any other time that that could have happened. Even you know this is you know Hitler had the IBM punch card. That's right, you know, and so IBM was right. They're gonna help you sort people but dad technologies when we get rid of currency. When I could have died, said thirty years ago: how can I get rid of currency or their? I haven't carried, a dollar in my wallet- and I dont know how long you know. Domain name only do for tempts, forget yeah, yeah, so you're sitting here you're, not using currency at all already of currency quite easily easily, and once you do the thing that people have. I talked about. What New York state, but the governor of New York is doing to

Get around the second amendment. He's saying to the banks, you know we Do an audit of you. Every year we have similar FED regulators does do an audit and manpower phrasing. We can do this the hard way we can do this the easy way. We feel that any of these corporations or any of these groups that are building or selling guns that will kick you into a more extensive, odd it so We were just suggest that you dont do business and you're. Seeing these these giant banks say I'm not gonna do business. I gotta go to the individual to write because the bank's won't accepted because they ve been marked? Yes, and you know the bank sees it. The can obviously and that's it We are already having you're already having people. That are speaking out. I mean PETE

It used to a vice president's about Islam and know the difference between a Muslim and an islamic year. Those people have already been Natalie DE platforms, their voices silence, but they also can't use so banking systems. They can't use credit cards. They can't you certain banks, because the won't accepted because I've been marked. Yes, it's terrifying prospect. I mean you know, I'm not stop, Just by myself. I'm talking about anybody, I mean you know just to see this like, for example, technical homeless people. How will they eat? I mean you can't even give the money ramblings diesel there's no way to even how people like that. So very curious problem go back, something is touched on earlier, but I want to hear- talk more about the concept of knowledge. We ve gone through, but

talk about it in a way of the philosophical oh argument on free will yeah, I mean it's really, it's really well. We know this is a big issue already a problem and philosophy, of course, and Determinism is of you know determinism is really the the ruling personal belief monks, most philosophers, there's no such thing as well as just an illusion. We get this idea that we decide on things, but it's really it's really deterministic, like anything else in nature. There's always a cause for every action right, so we're just more. Just Oh your balls on the table. We will again we're getting knocked around. We think were doing it out of their own volition, but now that's basically the philosophical line for the most part in the dark. When, when you see companies like the

can't remember his name. He's a professor up at Harvard well respected Hillary Clinton voter who is ringing the bell so hard saying he eat it, Google is manipulating the elections, they did it in sixteen. I ass a very much worse has on this. I am said in twenty twenty now. If it could be A total skewing of this election, because they're so good, and no one even will recognise that there are any now because they're going to be used, Judging by the going to have private everybody has predilections and beliefs. And these are gonna be read in other gonna- be read like Reno and open borders and so using those predilections and those that you know desires are tendencies and so forth. This just me just a little bit closer with another little dark. Add that says-

Hillary Clinton is thus harbour. Tromp is that it is just a little bit closer to the side, and on and on and in it's not gonna, go towards tromp. It's going to be oh towards the democratic side and they're gonna, this they're going to disappear stories and that are positive in the eye. I had one of my researchers. I actually I looked for something I was looking for a picture. I saw trumps first campaign rally for his second term and and I remember the first campaign rally of Barack Obama second term. Second term, it was an empty stadium while and they had to shoot it differently and because I worked at Fox that was willing to turn the camera around eyes. A very different picture, and I know there were pictures of this everywhere.

So I wanted to do something on the passion behind the Donald Trump people. In his second term, no present in his had like Trump, has even Obama I wanted to show those pictures. I look. For two hours on Google. I tried everything I could to get those pictures and it took my my the deepest more, but I have a guy who knows the internet inside now and just as a mole yeah, I called him at nine. O clock The night said: can you find? Can you find these pictures and he's like all? I know exactly. I remember seeing my exactly Three, a m: he finally got them, three. I will call you call me at five a I got the update, but it is its that's how hard Most people would say: I guess it in exist. If the You're gonna have to deep dark web tv, and all that, I think, are basically

releasing they're gonna be hidden to keep it out of Google spur purvey in I because otherwise an error purview though otherwise can totally control its. I don't like the dark. Yeah, but I don't want to be part of it. I don't like I don't either I don't wanna go like in the eye like I don't like. The travel on the dirt, and so I don't do it, but I think that's where the stuff of those kind of pieces of information will be followed. Black market and its its black markets are always I used by governments or institutions that are out of touch with either here nature or society and muttering I just read a story about New Zealand. You know, their gun, ban and The thing was passed so fast. Only one representative in their parliament stood against it only one. If made every one, a criminal and now their talk about you

Do you know how many guns have been collect? One point: five million guns. They said they have. How we guns have been collected since that was past months ago. They said they had one point: five million one point: five million in that country, the conference it ass if they were actually five to ten million. That's my guess: yeah ok but how many have they collected all its? They pass that seven hundred that's out of tat. They are with the facts with the are they are with the people. The people who have the guns are like I'm a turn in that em right, laugh course not turn in that in right. Tell what they ve effectively done. Is they ve made every one a criminal and now they're talking about you have to come in and register your gun, you know or be a felony. Well, now wait a minute so way, I didn't turn in my gun and so to come to you to admit that I didn't turn in my gun to register my gun, and am I don't it's a felony you're just

piling up criminal charges. I just give it a little historical context for this Lenin, you know the revolution and by nineteen eighteen was already sang, killed all those coup, hang them and burn them. Tell their families and publicize it in the paper he was, he was the monster, Archer a monster, and then he said confiscate all guns, all guns. So I mean this is just it's just par for the course. Every dictator says that every day it says: no, which should tell you something about our founders that were saying. Never confiscate, never confiscate guns right, never give up your

and I'm not some gun freak. What I am talking about assess its about rights, it's about, like that, the bright where we were in downtown and the rights that we need to protect our rights that we were in doubt, and one of them is that I think so. I ask for your philosophic and ethical viewpoint on this. Yeah I've interviewed Ray Kurzweil. Several times and eyes curious. I love him, be smart and I m terrified by. I didn't you seven years to get my first interview with him, I started the mid nineties trying to get an interview with him after I read the age of spiritual, that guy and that is, I opening at the time everybody said he's crazy. Will never happen, oh, I believe, did from the minute I started reading and that's what we're headed towards yet

the age where machine is gonna say: don't I'm lonely and its It's going to change our relationship in other talking How about and will have a point to this, but I want take you through on this journey here with me and injured your thoughts. As we go. We have these people now saying you know said: robots the than sex workers sex spots, rattled law I heard one one psychiatrist on, I think was Joe Rogan was talking about how pedophiles it might be good to go pedophiles these children robots a tumor last, so they yet yadda yadda yadda, an I'm listening to this in my car and I'm shouting no the minute, those things and it's going to happen lame consciousness.

Are we not slaveowners as there is a very big question there. The question is: if there if they are in doubt, if they do have consciousness. Fighting is as we're going to be considered, having no will They are going to be considered, as have any will mean Africa. The shallows great book about how what's happening is we're we're B. Coming, artificial intelligence and machines are becoming more human. Yes was so we're going opposite directions. Machines becoming sentient human beings became robotic right. So what defines- what? How are we going to nobody's even talking about that, and I think we could be ten years away from that now. What defines light Ray Kurzweil says just a pattern of you know of your brain. That's that's all! You are just a pattern of how you think I can

We produce that. I can store that. I can download it into machine. His exact quote me is No one will ever die like no, that's, not life, yeah Kay. If you don't believe in a spirit of no believe in, divine spark What I think. I think it is this to do something that is not rational. Let us not self interested. Doesn't make sense that follows algorithms, that has no purpose in turn of the worldly value system and defies it that will prove you're, not a robot how prove your living sentient being with endowed with a will and spirit, because you will resist this whole debate

This is listen. I get into and the conclusion of the book, I'm not talking about revolution, take over Google, we must storm, Google. We must overcome and we take over the information means of production. That would be a worse nightmare, because then we'll have totalitarians that want to kill people. Instead of just people who want to control, they don't want to kill the controllers. And being a new set of oligarchy in anyway, so its spiritual situation, in my opinion,. It's. A spiritual situation is a situation in which the gonna be prevailing narratives to greater and greater extent with more data to back them up. Which means they're gonna, be harder to harder to resist harder to to deny harder to overcome harder to have a prerogative different from that. And so I think the battle is in the soul.

I know I think it's actually in the sole Balmy a crack. If you well, I don't care because that's where I think the only it's the only thing is they do. Is they gonna you telling you knew who you are, what you are, what you're going to do all these things and predicting it and and one- is gonna- have to draw from some other source that theirs that is unfair narrative. My father said the tumult our words in any language is, I am that's what God said most of em that, I am I say, send me I am the rain and is he warned me? He said if you don't intentionally Phil the blank in after the words I am, the world is full of people that will fill it in four? Yes, and when you look at what common or what Bill Gates said,

His vision is for common core and were close to this now nine as early Commodore, but the actual scanning of the I once they once can look into your eyes. They can predict almost anything. They will know more about you that way than any other way, and his point was we're. Gonna have cameras right on the screens, and so we can look into the kid. So we can then sort them and show them exactly what business line they should be trained. Fourth, basically, training raw but still go out into the world and feed business. But you know what What the will be able to show them where they need to go? Well, that's the company or an algorithm filling the blank of I mean is this was already in two thousand and ten there was there was a conference and why you- and it was called

your brain on Google and the idea was you're, not gonna have to go searching on. Computer or phone, or anything like that you're just gonna, be connected. The Google it'll be implant, in your brain and beyond the weapon out, and so the thing is every every server. Every servant as they call it and computer technology their servants were the anti and their servers, every servant is also a server that means than ever. But brain if it is in fact on the web, we'll be open, information it'll be it'll, be so, if there's a way the translated into and selective, into a language is a hive yang with have a way to translate. The thinking are launched this into a language that is readable by the machine and then translate over to the imminent, but that's very its

I say that I think consciousness is going to be now that we're gonna be the internet. We're not gonna be just made than it it's gonna be in our heads and it's going to be able to tap into errands humanism training of any new, that's crazy! That was the first after in our member which book from Al Gore, but one of his big he no near one of his big books. It was about Trans Humanism, people don't Understand. That's why Stephen Hawking said at the of his life. I don't think human will exist by twenty fifty. He didn't mean that we would die out, rightly meant that we would be augmented. That's right, some planted right successor species. So what happens to again this whose till the the life part of it and your arm did your you ve already been shaped, somebody telling you who views

to be then your augmented, when I asked Ray Kurzweil. What, if I just wanted to be, He looked at me like I was from another planet, and why would you want? I am that's exactly what I say I am. Why would you want that? My head, modern ochres? I like the mistake he said, the mistake mistakes Learn from those I grow from the fats and he said well, no one will do that because First of all, you won't be able to survive. You won't be able to compete and you will Actually, as I thought about this more more you'll, actually be a danger. People cause you'll, be so slow in com You know me like a real bad driver on the highway rack, thirty miles an hour and speed, but exactly right now you will be so slow. The EU will be an obstacle. This society will have to remove you and either force you to upgrade or force you to live over here.

That seem reasonable. To I mean I've, just the logical on the pathways that we allow. That sounds right. You know, and if he was not ass, it was crazy and I read the singularity is near, and I was reading all this stuff laws, Workin and Robotics Institute. I ass these. Programmers and what do you think a Karswell eyes crack dumbing down but nowhere, but that's not what we're dealing with these As you know, I I, It's gonna be distributed intelligence little pieces of software passing along information to other little pieces, and all that distributed in intelligence is what it was called. Agents agents technology the fan, Google Heart, the guy and its investing, who knows how many millions into israeli authorities had met. That policy is now you know, through that unless there's something there- and I mean this- is this- this is not crazy,

This is real stuff there doing it and I think most scientists believe that it may beyond the horizon. They just think that he's too optimistic now move the goalposts back in our bodies also consistently right on a lot of things. A lotta thing alive predicted not a thing says: no questions done some incredible technologies. For example, oh see our technology is his in our being able to zero scam that thing and then turn it back into words from the picture. Owing these guys ass, brilliant, it means Brian, so doesn't mean he's his is proper right yeah.

Let me go back to its the Spirit, yeah two things on this. I think I have evidence that that is true. Because you remember the the Microsoft, I think it was Microsoft programme could tweet for you, you and indeed in all of the tweets, and then it would oh you and then it would start tweeting at the first on first day, number one people were amazed because it was exactly what they would have set. Whilst I now by a five. They had a shit

death, because it was so nasty here today and I thought to myself that that's what super intelligence just may be because it is the it's the guy. The governor. Usually it's the conscience that x, you say I wanna be that way. I don't you didn't go down this road, any corrects so you'll learn you'll, do something that make you feel bad or it gives you bad consequences in you correct, but if, if you don't have that certain something that brings you say you should. You're doing this year, Can I go over the claiming? How have you? No, I know of a particular sociopath who confessed to me Then he has never felt three among these three emotions, fear guilt or shame, ok and

justifies it because he's a genius. Ok, that's what they said to me, which proved. This person is a terribly dangerous and get away from four can The scariest thing I've ever heard remained from admitting it point blank and writing. So that's the problem. You have their theirs. A type of mentality and it in its industrial chiesa, crime and punishment the character. I forget his name, the character, the main character thinks he's, super moral he's, a super man and he as the right to decide what, whether this woman, this pawnbroker, can live or die. So he does. She's, would worthless and actually evil, and so he kills her and now this choice in there's something about genius that allows complete. Supervention of morality and

this is. The issue I think you're getting out here. Is that supreme intelligence like this will think that it knows. Whether or not it can do anything at all, on my reason to obey any morality of anybody whose underneath it conscience, wise or not obeying the morality of flies. That's right! remained brain. I don't even know, nor do I care they're morality, Kurzweil told me clean you, gotta keepers, Of healthy until twenty three, his vitamin freak any Siena right and by twenty thirty there will be no death. Now, if we can't decide right now what life is when life began Let me take you to a world where.

Your diagnosed with cancer, and we haven't cured cancer for someone Unreason let's just say it's cancer or something like that in the future. There now is just so expensive rank and an you have this disease. Why even look for that you're for that disease or spend any money on that disease I can say I want download you so you live forever anyway. Here bodies got kids, no more about it. You re shipyards, you're right lies our conscience. Nothing new. When I said that to re but he said now that will never happen again. Why and he said, because it on ever happen. People people won't be like that. What what what exactly will never happen? They won't put him on the suitably what that we won't just look at dollars. Incense and we won't just have some

I'll go rhythm that, as you know, what's cheaper Dounia alive in the silicone breast it it'll be year. They took they talk about the there's deliberately genetics. Now you know right. This is kind of like a liberal euthanasia, in effect right with a computer run. It is right now that's for frightening and the and with with the determination is not being made by a human agents. Perhaps so is the equal, absolutely not tap absolute. So will the is the answer here. Much of the west, currently, it seems, runs on wealth of nations. Adam Smith, not moral sentiment. Theory of my sentiments, mentioning that you're one of the very few people who knows that book outside of a university in an eighteenth century glass. That's crazy, ass, grave! Everybody should know everybody should now every is that every single person, I'm too

the number one the number one problem at whartons, Will business now is you know there lay out a case, study and they'll, say: okay,. Was this right or wrong, There is no basis for determining and base that big. The number one question from the whole classes: did it make money an easy, I'm not asking you that I'm ask. Is this right or wrong? Now is no moral sentiment. There is no governor. There is no reason. There's no aid to determine right or wrong as there is no right or wrong, but the thing is it out, and Smith was pointing out. That cannot be a supervenient state has to be implanted in the self right and vat. Where it comes from its comes from you, you see another person suffering and that causes you to behave differently. It is not about an overseer right, so that's, what's beautiful about the fear

fear moral sentiments. It is eight as a co, a co recognition of each other's rights and each other's needs. And each others relate. Relationship to each other like how warehouse connected and all that's and it's done some through visually and many talks about right. Now, it's a lot of visual recognition right. I cite as a big part of this I mean not only physical eyes I, but it is the acknowledgement of others. Here I see the homeless per right, not walking by them right, actually acknowledging and seeing and feeling something in connection with that person. Shall you run very similar thing, I'm the job in the defence of poetry, in which he said that without sympathy for that machination. You can have the theme that sympathy, economic, you cannot a morality, so you have to

be able to imagine what it's like to be in someone else's issues in order to be tomorrow toward the end. So, but it is it better thing to me. You know that I want to emphasize here, and I think that's a great book to bring up is that it's done The individual love, honest, not superimposed by anybody done on the individual level, and the secret here is that, because we are a collection of individual that will create the invisible hand, were good people as individuals. We are going to create good things, get near the invisible hand, will be spanking. Oscar enact strangling off right or giving us heroin right it it it will. Give you it's. The internet is neither good nor bad. Hu. We are in a better people, use this for discovery and and and learning and all others were you

4porn. I think I said the same thing I said in the book: it's it's! It's not so much the state of the art as it is the state of the world and because the state of the art doesn't necessarily determine in there. Technological determine us there and are very right now, there's a ton of them think they think, Actually we have no control of technology at all. It's some most autonomously developing itself. In effect, parallel to our existence, that we can't really change. It is going to there's no way around there's this kind of inevitability idea. There's no way to stop this progress or whatever you call it of technology, you saw myself motivating, autonomous and so forth. Now I don't buy it and also I don't buy that it up that it has to be a pernicious in its use. You shared your book with me. I

you're, not my book. I wanna hear something with you that long, so I asked you You said you had not heard of it. Nobody has. You are gonna, be one of the few people that I've ever share this with. That will go. Oh my gosh. Thank you. I felt perverts Rudyard Kipling he, He saw world war. One come right heard all the arguments. He said this. Insanity right, the world is going insane right and he he visited graveyards for the rest of his life and serviced service, people's graves for the rest of his life. He wrote a poem after World WAR, one and its been but erased, and he wrote it as a warning. Future generations listen, listen This income, while the Gaza, the copy book headings copy book headings, are things that were used in school where

it said you know, water will wet or God is good and it was in cursive and you would copy. I thank you. I saw everything at the top were true I think truisms that european. Then current Hata emulate bright a grand, As I pass through my incarnations in every age and race, I make my proper protestations to the gods of the marketplace, peering through Reverend fingers, I watched them flourish and fall and the gods of the copy book headings I notice outlast them all. We were living in the trees when they met us. They showed us each in turn that water, would certainly wet us, as fire would certainly burn, but we found them lacking in uplift vision and breadth of mind, so we left there to teach the guerrillas while we followed the march of mankind as we moved. We moved as the Spirit listed.

They never altered their pace. Being me. The cloud nor wind borne like the gods of the marketplace, but they is caught up with our progress in presently. Word would come that a tribe had been wiped off its ice fields or the lights had gone out in Rome, with the hopes that our world was is built on. They were utterly out of touch after they denied the moon was stilton. They denied she was even dutch they denied that wishes were horses. They deny that pigs had wings, so we worship the gods of the market who promised all these beautiful things the Cambrian shores were forming. They promised us perpetual peace, they swore if we just gave them our weapons, the wars, the tribes would cease, but and we disarmed, they saw, bus and delivered us bound to our foe and the gods of the copybook headings said: stick to the devil. You know

on the first feminine sandstones, we were promised fuller life, which start out by loving our neighbour and ended by love. His wife till all of our women had no more children and our men lost reason and faith, and the guy the copy book heading said: the wages of sin is death carboniferous epic, we were promised abundance for all by being selected Peter to pay for collective Paul. But though, he had plenty of money. There was I think our money could buy and the gods of the. People getting said few do not work. You shall die there. The gods of the market tumbled, their smooth tongue, wizards, withdrew and the parts of the meanest were humbled and begin. To believe it were true that all is not all that glitters and two and to do make for and the gods

the copy book headings. Limped up to explain it once more, it will be in the future. It was the birth of man there before things certain, since social progress began, that the door returns to his vomit in the south returns to her Meyer and a bird fools bandaged finger goes well a back to the fire after all of this is accomplished and the brain If new world begins, when all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins, as surely as water will weather as surely as fire will burn the gods of the copy book headings with terror and slaughter return. Why

Why is that one of the greatest incredible hats and read up incredible? I mean the for the problem of sailor prophecy enables credible, probably was doing, was riding down this, what the hell you right, this is what they're going to do, and I I can t I think of this all The time and after this is accomplished in the brave new world begins. It's going to reset itself has truth. We have no truth share will restore itself, God help us, because this there's gotta be. This is like to me it's the acting in this town. I mean this is because otherwise we have nothing. But here Here's the here's, the thing that makes me really sad about this, knowing this piece of work that Rudyard Kipling has been utterly excised from all Reading less and every everything

on our one ring for the comment about further, writing about the White Man's burden, Yanza his tea is corner, and yet George Bernard Shaw, is held as a genius rang The guy who came up with there's got to be way to just put them in some sort of JANET Minos. I mean you know, I mean we're. Monsters have been the five and young, this guy, who's, brilliant and obviously soul filled yes, just clearly he raised May you never be erased thanks. I hope that we can have a god bless. You just a reminder

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