Dallas salon owner Shelley Luther was sentenced to jail for refusing to apologize for disobeying stay-at-home orders and opening her shop. The U.K. scientist behind much of our coronavirus response has resigned for breaking his own rules to have an affair. Texas law enforcement brought a military vehicle to arrest armed protesters. Harvard business professor Arthur Brooks joins to discuss the serious risk of depression during quarantine and how social media plays a role. Glenn runs through how many Democrats actually believe Biden over Tara Reade and introduces us to Biden’s SEVEN accusers. Shelley Luther’s attorney, Warren Norred, joins with a firsthand view of her court hearing and how the judge wanted to make an example out of her.
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I'll. Take you now to Dallas Texas, Shelly Luther was a was a woman here and
axis marshy still is but she's now in jail,
and she's never had a run in with a law she's, not a revolutionary she's, just a salon owner
and she got to a point where she couldn't keep her salon closed any more
now that we have created a black market. I mean this is why these things never work. There's a black market. You can go, get your hair cut. Somebody will come to your house and cut your hair people. Herb
people are getting their hair cut.
So we are now making people into criminals. So she can
She's gonna lose your business,
people on our staff we're having a hard time feeding their children. They needed the money.
So last week,.
We now know because of yesterday,
salons are open in Texas on Friday,
she was a week. Early
opens it up. She is,
it's a court order immediately, because these this
This is what she says. I dont know that for sure, but she said:
the one who had lodged a complaint was the store owner, but you know a couple of doors down, which was a dog grooming place, which was open so
was cool. They have your dog groomed, but you couldn't groom social.
Get a court order and she says no, I'm not gonna. Do it.
And she gets a cease and desist order from a judge. She is
on television and she rips it up. Well that right,
really pissed off the judge and you
we're not a system of of laws
Anymore, were a system of men, how dare you how
dear, you quote:
Defy all
I cease and desist order by ripping it up. How dare you
Don't believe me
listen to the judge yesterday when she was hauled in front of cord and sentenced to jail? Listen to the arrogance.
Of this judge.
But you now see the error of your ways and
stand. Their decision
I cannot function
we're one's own belief in a concept of liberty. Promise you to flop
were disdain for the rulings of duly elected officials.
You owe an apology to be elected official
those whom you just respect disrespect it.
Flagrantly ignoring
in cases of filing their orders,
Yes, you
to stand at the proper way in which work in an ordered society to engage concerns which you may have had
to hire a lawyer and advocate
for change
an exception when a man
better laws, you find a friendship. That's you publicly stated that this is the way that citizens in the state should behave.
In the regular tag it I can't take it,
He has to apologize. You notice, he says
that you defiled their order. It was your order. There,
Why would he have a mouse in your pocket?
there is no. They in that you issued the order. You were offended that she ripped it up.
So now you want an apology, public apology, you wanna shame her and now yours,
you're putting her in jail because of quote her arrogance
And her selfishness
Oh, she selfish
then, do you have anything to say before I sentence anything?
before I sentence you and
Said yes, I do here is her comment judge I would like to say,
I have much respect for this court and laws.
And that I've never been in this position before and it's not someplace that I want to be, but I have to disagree with you, Sir, when I, when you say that, unselfish because feeding my kids is now
Selfish, I have here stylus that are going hungry because they rather feed their kids. So, sir, if you think the laws more important than kids getting fed,
Then please go ahead with your decision, but I am not going to shut the salon.
He looks away from her when she says I have to disagree with you. He is so pissed off at her. This is
I don't even recognize this.
What are you doing?
What the hell is our country doing right now,.
This: a woman who doesn't have a record she's, not a troublemaker. She.
Been forced to close her business.
She's going out of business.
She has no money or earth salon workers have no money.
She obeyed
for how many weak six.
There are many Americans who believe
We should have shot things down
had no handle. This is my belief we had no handle on this on this disease. We had no idea what we were headed towards.
I told you it's not about the death. It's
Bout overwhelming the system we can
two over the system because it
total chaos. Well, we didn't
overwhelmed the system. We did
our job, and we did it voluntarily. You didn't
to tell us. We did it
Alan terribly you should have should suggested it and now what are you doing.
When we have had enough not in New York, not in.
Spot in LOS Angeles, but
places where its do. You know that if you
hawk to the the hospitals and the nurses here in Dallas Texas. You know their laying people off nurse
doctors, so
we didn't overwhelm the system. We have
capacity
people are not going to go out and be crazy because nobody wants to die and nobody wants to kill anybody else.
And there's always gonna be stupid people out there. I don't think she's stupid, but they're always will be stupid. People always- and I don't
have a right to be cut.
Safe, in fact, I don't
We want you to
fuck me into a room to keep me safe.
Anyone who is taking away my rights of freedom- I will I mean
read my house, I'm self quarantined.
But your forcing me and then added,
your arrogance
you, think you're more important than people feeding
their kids. You think you're,
more important than a lifetime of dreams, gone down the crap her.
Wiping your family out. That's this is what's happening in Amerika, families are being wiped out,
everybody cries about: oh my gosh well
if you have, if you, if, if you went to Harvard, I can expect to be,
that back on.
Get out of debt while where's the outcry of this
I know
It's coming from Nancy Pelosi because
Nancy policy wants. Is the power.
Otherwise give us a friggin tax cut.
You ve already made unemployment
by the way in many states still,
people can get their unemployment still haven't, had their unemployment jack and
arrogance of governors like cuomo-
comes out and says: will then go get an essential workers. Job
grow. You call Cuomo where's the air
Regions of these people.
And by the way they all think they're above it.
They all do
we have the other Cuomo brother
who was self quarantined in his basement and
lecturing all of us how you have to stay, and but he was outside
Caught outside waiting
supposed to be self Quarantine is basement. He wasn't in fact capacity
I beg your went, wait a minute. Aren't you supposed to be quarantine? Don't you have the corona virus you shut up
are you kidding me now, don't have you heard it that Niles Ferguson
guy, who got the
U K too.
Who shot everything down?
He was the guy who came out from Oxford said man, it's millions will die. Ok, all right so
at the time we thought that was pretty legitimate, these a legitimate guy. Do you see that
He he he resigned yesterday, because
He wasn't self quarantining he
I that he was gonna go, have a sexual affair
with a married woman.
Who lives at home with her husband and two children.
If you believe this, what are you
trying to kill her and our children and her husband, no there above it
of it. That's for everybody else. That's the little people,
well, maybe and Mary Old England, but now
here in Amerika
I agree with.
Quarantine! I do now,
I agree that we are not balancing this
with common sense and an understanding of what we ve done to them.
Economy and when I say the economy, I'm not just talking about money, I'm talking about people's dreams, I'm talking about
peoples, a bill
We do have money
to be able to feed themselves.
How is it up right to life? Liberty, oh and the pursuit of happiness.
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All right, another woman, Gabrielle Ellison, she owns big daddy's genes bar in West Odessa, Texas. Now I'm bringing you these stories. I know these are happening all over the country
damn this is Texas if it
is bad in Texas, the free
state in the union.
The hell. Are you living through good heavens, man.
Ok, so Gabrielle Ellison! She owns this. This bar and West Odessa, Texas,
she said she was going to re open our doors in violation of the state's covered nineteen locked down because
he couldn't support her family any more. She said I am losing my bar. I'm
losing all of my money. I've got to reopen so
He decides to reopen well,
she's in trouble,
so she theirs. They want to do a protest against the state.
And it happened what yes
Today's Wednesday
happen yesterday
she says they called the shares. Department said: hey, there's gonna, be a protest, blah blah blah. They were fine well
they weren't fine.
The sheriff came in the sheriff, came in and
arrested a lot of the people at this rally. Now it's because they were carrying guns.
Well wait a minute! What's the problem with that?
we're carrying guns, they say in the bar, but they weren't in the bar
She says Gabrielle says that they were on private property behind the bar not connected the bar.
Don't know the truth about that, but if you weren't in the bar, if you're in the bar, it's against state law, you got obey the law with guns, but she, but
they weren't they were arrested outside here's, the real problem.
They roll in with a military tank.
You know every time you do that you set people off what the hell are. You doing,
the problem here is that heavy handedness
only feeding into this. Please, if you are
protest. Renewing freedom, please
stop showing up with rifles slung over your shoulder? Yes, I know you have a right to do it, but you hurt yourself and the cause, because everything is about an image, and so you look like you're a revolutionary and, yes, we need a revolution, but not one with guns, not one with guns and sheriffs. Stop rolling in with tanks you're, just pissing everybody off
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We doubt by what's happening
If the censorship. Now what what what
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voices and authoritative truth well, there authoritative truth comes from CNN their authority.
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that that comes at the direct expense of us. They are throttling us down, and
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It's so dangerous right now, especially with the corona virus. We you can't question things. You know if talk
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For that. You will not see those posts,
We do. I bet you see less than half of the stuff that we post
right now, because you just now,
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Gonna lose track of one another.
Voices will be silenced.
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Please join us at a blaze tv tonight at nine o clock we are taking on the Joe Biden accuser. She has an invitation. She was she responded to us last week and she said I will I'll get right back to you. We have not heard
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and we are going to go through all of the things that she said and all the things that Joe Biden and the press are doing the story that
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Mr Pat Gray, how are you, sir? I'm good good is a better example of what you were just talking about: the nose to doctors from LOS Angeles who have no tested entreated over fifty two hundred patients, and they were
You were contradicting things that found she was saying and shut it well,
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this shutting down. They may not be right on everything
Crazy about this path? Is they may not be right on everything, but
while she write on everything, now, is a w h. Oh we're talking about. What's so clever people decide their smart enough to make their own decisions? Yes, yes, and they don't see that the problem.
There that the left says says they have with with faith. Is it does you down? You know.
You can't. You can't talk about things. They don't want you to investigate things. You know there are
had questions all the devil made. You say that all these kinds of things that's what they ate. They hate the fact that the catholic Church
locked in the dead soda, why you know
lay locked up in the tower. I ate that that that's com
legally out of control because church,
became political way,
Oh, I got news for you. Science is now political science is now the church,
and- and you cannot vary from what official science says Period
even scientists can those doctors may may be wrong on some things, but they,
have a valid place
and a valid reason to speak out if that's truly what they believe and they have the science to back it up, even if their
because science is always wrong. It's always wrong. Butter is good for you, but hurts bad, but it's good, but it's bad, but it's good, but it's bad shut up. You
you don't know how big the universe is you don't knowing anything we ve, never
Splore the bottom of the ocean- stop
telling me that you know everything cause you don't especially something like the corona virus there, just
Aachen people up into the tower if they disagree, it's making people so cynical. We did a
didn't internet Paul just a month, twitter asking people
if and when a vaccine comes out, will you take it
Seventy percent said no, because
be forced to their data. Before that's what I said then they'll probably mandated, and then your real and yet again then what our backs up then there really getting at pissed
people thought that it would be a second amendment thing that could cause a revolution in a war in this country and civil war. We could
something as simple as a vaccine good, be at an only because people, don't trust
the government to any more yeah. They don't don't trust any of this. They don't trust some private business owners either. Like I don't know, bill gates
hurry, Lariata Guy- and this is one of the really shy you know. People who talked about the swedish model is something we can do here and it's really just like. We always say with healthcare: you can just plot
the swedish model and United States. The swedish people are very compliant entrusting of government an experts and there were very there, the size of like Rhode, island and its even a meaning there anyway, but that's the whole another Israeli that but that, but that is not a plausible option, as we ve been talking to Bernie Sanders about four decades here in this country, like you
plop these solutions from a ten million person country
the United States and expected to work the same way and in a again
I think, you're right, you better, be brought this up earlier. If you're
rolling into bars with tanks. The
the people are gonna, be a lot more likely to trust you when you have a different solution. Amelia, let me ask you this: do you heard the audio pat you're the audio a few minutes ago, of the judge in
salon owner case here in Dallas, where he said you defiled my or order and
you know, you're going to jail your area,
and your selfish she said I'm just trying to feed my family. Now imagine what would happen if a judge
Texas said the same thing and the defendant responded the same way except she wasn t a salon owner. She was an illegal aliens in
Jane. What would be said? Oh man,
yeah, they just wouldn't happen and you're going to
break this woman from her family for seven for seven days. Eat never do that to an illegal aliens.
No illegal aliens can be separated from their families, but american citizens can and nobody even cares
cares about it,
I'm telling you there is there is a man, and I urge people I am with you. I am with you,
those who want to march and and protest. I think this is
This is another tea party coming, but this one is stronger,
and you will have more people on your side, but you can't
that role in with arms. In the back of a you know, I saw those people up in Michigan and they had the back of the Vienna, the Humvee or whatever it. While you know one of the big army trucks and they add guys- you know Pekin out from behind with rifles. That's in people don't want that. No Americans!
old want revolution, we're not blood in the streets, kind of people and the ever
time you do that you set you hurt. Your case
Please don't do that. Please don't do that! Everything
is about image. This is why Martin Luther King one he knew if we strike back. If we do anything, we will lose.
He knew Malcolm X was wrong.
A different thing in America?
than it is any place else, don't do it and when you say that people always go back to what the founders, the founders of the founders guy, yet
founders waited like forty years of peaceful means. They went back and forth to Britain over and over and over seeking redress.
Try in her eye and try to do something peaceful and at the last resort, when there was nothing else available to them. What I want is a last resort when not the last resort. They had the king had said
soldiers quartering in their home right
we're surging papers in their own. Now me personally, I think you could make a case that the federal government is doing that right now by spying on us and have
racking all of our movements in tracking
all of our voices and drones up in the sky. I mean you could make the case, but you ve
to win the hearts of the american people and they are on your side, but the minute you look like Antiphon, you lose. You lose! No, no doubt
bout. It is just its
Every time you show up armed, like that, I
I think in the minds of the american people, your ear and extremist and that's what they label and west and here
the problem. It's going to hurt the re election of of Donald Trump. If that becomes a big force. Like add two five, you start to see that on the street door,
tromp wheels soup.
Or your eye.
DE is
can't believe. I'm saying this about him possesses my biggest fear
said he would become a dictator, gonna guy. Well,
he hasn T demonstrated the exact opposite, but so he
agreeing with you in principle that these things should be happening right. The minute he says that they're gonna say, look,
for this military, rising blah blah blah blah blah, and you will sway some people, because people Americans, don't like those images and though
Images are all that's going to be seen. That's all
that's gonna, be seen well, look what they ve done. We look what they ve done to the images of this. The two swastikas that were at that Michigan rally that you ve been talking about the Michigan rally had had all they ve talked about in the press is the two swastikas and swastikas war praising Nazis. They were saying you're acting like a nice. Where did, but that's not the way it was presented in the press, so they took that and taken it completely around. Take a look at tat.
Look at my career, but there
is I won the defender of Israel award? Ok, I didn't mean it. I mean, as I can in resolving a contest. I was awarded the defender of Israel. The veal ward was presented.
By Sheldon AID Olsson and his wife and
Benjamin Netanyahu? Ok,
and yet I the press,
said that I was an anti semite, how many jewish people believe that I'm an anti semite, because they
everything. I said what I said, look the pattern. This is the beginning of Nazi kind of stuff. If you don't stop it look at the
the pattern of Anti Semitism in Europe look at what's happening in our own country in our universities, some our another,
They made me look like an anti semite, ok! Well
I mean I was on Fox news you're not on Fox news you're, not
there every day to defend yourself with a powerful voice. If they have those images they will destroy, you need to be insulting Glenn, but you are a legitimately terrible, Anti Semites.
Ah, here you are helpful at it. Now you just can't pull it off. You keep you. I mean for a guy who was so anti semitic. You just keep praising Jews all the time. What is going on? I'm really bad at almost everything I do actually anti Semitism you're just about it all legitimate and wait a minute. Wait a minute! Wait, a minute! Wait! A minute. You know
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but we have her attorney on in our number three
the woman who went to jail for opening up her salon here in Dallas Texas, which is crazy.
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Today. I want to reintroduce you to somebody who really makes me feel, like I don't know like. I have all my priorities wrong there. Every time I talk to Arthur Brooks, I think we should be best friends. Why don't I wide? Why am I not talking to you all the time you he is so bright and he is also one of the happiest warriors I've ever met, but I never for some reason. I just
because it s part of their lines of you. That's the lively each added, and I say it really is a really is he's now, a professor of practice at Harvard Kennedy School. He is a senior fellow at the Harvard Business School D is the producer of the pursuit. He knows more about what makes the free market work and and what makes America so different and and how to convince others that it's worth doing it this way. This helps more people and more people are happy under a free market than any other system or to talk to him about the free market, but also about the crisis that the cover of the corona virus really has put on us that we're not talking about yet and that its depression, loneliness and a general lack of happiness. Arthur Brooks one of my favorite guests in one minute back programme, nobody wakes up in the morning saying man. I really hope when I look in the mirror, I've got crows feet in a double chin and maybe some dark spots for good measure. Nobody does that if you know someone who does stop talking to that person,
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it's really annoying, I feel like I feel like I was separated at birth from the sky,
and exactly the same way right and the same. We do, we will bear a but we're not or not uncritical.
We see what we're all we want to make it right. We.
We were we're both classically trained French harnessed so
I know that to you, I don't know it's just you hit you so Arthur. You are now teaching at Harvard Kennedy School and you heard what what
exactly? Is the class your teaching? What is it your teaching? So I'm a professor of leadership
that harboured and- and I spent two schools harboured Kennedy schools- the policy schooled arbored at an order to the school is obviously age, bs, where people get their abuse and I keep classes leadership. The policy side that each classes and happiness at Harvard Business School
I've done the most incredible opportunity of ever had I just finished the super popular, very oversubscribed class, called leadership and happiness to my mba students right before they all had to leave and will not come back now. Do the
that does the school and the students do. They know how
much of a free market guy you who occur-
I think a Lloyd most universities in America today will accept a free market year on a case by case basis.
And you know that the nice thing about it is more like most universities, hurry diversity has seen a most of the people pretty must waning. But what I love about it
the real it's a real marketplace for ideas in it, an appreciation for people who think differently. Psych stop incredibly welcome. I love
I have to say, I will end my students are small and everybody mixes up its fight there.
Not be a better.
Ass, God or or champion of the free market and our system than you, I'm thrilled the Europe there making an impact
Talk you a little bit about an article that you just wrote on happiness,
and fulfilment because we have
something that we are really talking about. One of the real unintended consequences of of what's happening with cove. It is, people are wildly lonely, lonely ass. They did, but according to research, loneliness
the Americans have ever been and we have real fear doubt p.
We are going to be. You know how many people have already lost their job. That just
horrible things to people. So I wanted to talk to you about happiness, because in this article you you said that there's theirs.
Equations,
to take us through the three equations of
of how we can get better
I appreciate that in Geneva back up a little bit, the loneliness thing is a really interesting problem, because most of us, when we leave, are relationships up to our circumstances,
No, we can't, I mean most of us actually feel good towards other other people, maybe not in a puzzling party but seeing other people, but we
no why we feel gotten as an answer to that, and the answer is that is under a transmitter. That's created by the human brain called oxytocin, not to be confused with our continent. Obviously, but there actually sit behind so far. Is that oxytocin makes us feel physically?
and when people are really lovely they'll take drugs because I actually want to substitute for
This is one of the reasons that only twenty percent of active duty troops in Vietnam WAR addicted to heroin, but when they were
when it came back and they got their oxytocin in their brains, which came from contact with others. Ninety five percent spontaneously
using heroin other first stay back. This stuff is soon while powerful and where we don't
into a this, oxytocin is Neuro. Transmitters hormones in the human brain organ actually feel
horrible, so that that the challenges in offer public policy makers leaders is understanding that we have to make cost benefit calculations where people are not going to become depressed and lonely. Even if there's some risk to society is marrying
never rest of us. We have to understand that a big decisions where we can get our fix of the oxytocin that God wants us to have
I don't know if you remember John Huntsmen Senior, but he was a friend of mine and grew up dirt. Poor became
a billionaire and
a guy that really had everything had a great family at a great business, gray, reputation more money than you know that
family, but you know they only family was poor, but let me just add just add a lot and you would look
outside in you would say this guy there's no way this guy couldn't be happy and he was happy was fulfilled, but he taught me
something one of the first times a kind of became a mentor mine and
we're just walking around in his yard is backyard in the end he said so Glenn
much is enough.
And I said what
and he said how much is enough. Now here's a guy who's walking around and we are on the side of a mountain that he owned
and how he said
I don't know, I don't know, and he said: will you
have to decide and you have to decide right now. He said because we
you get there. You are
recognize it cause. It won't be enough, so you have to recognize it now, otherwise always be pursuing it.
That's right and entered? The key thing is that the key thing to remember is that their basically for things that your brain is telling it a change that are idols and they won't bring happiness, and there are four things you should be chasing, so here's basically so I'll, give everybody a second we most need us.
All million relation to us right now pick up a dreadful so far
the thing: is it your brain that mother nature is telling you you're really really want our money, power, pleasure and pain?
and say means prestige or whatever it. The admiration of other people gave money power pleasure in fact those
Think about it. You gotta, kill five will be happy there, but there were all your idle. They took their a hundred. Eighty degrees offer what you really want. Here's what you really want, Biddle, actually give you in securing happiness, face family friendship and will work
that serves others and where you can earn your success. That's it that's your happiness port
All of those are the places response to put your deposit mother nature,
you're by the way doesn't care.
For me not withstanding the thing I talk to others, oxy toasted and our brains, mother, nature, she's like it, I could get famous than you finally be happy you'll, be on the hit dawning treadmill on the head.
Mr Wheel of life, for the rest of your life. That's why John Huntsmen Glenn
what's your number, why? Because the
We chance did you can answer that question to get off the treadmill and it is
Its again. One of the reasons why I left Fox is because
wanted.
Notice that I was starting to want the fame and I knew cause I'm an alcoholic. I had already washed out once I knew these things and
is the minute I wanted it. I I realized I meant to destroy myself. I mean it you and that's why
People who are famous
He generally will sell their sole or their powerful in Congress. They'll sell their sole because
they wanted and they just keep trading away. The things of real meaning in value yeah
fame, is a really is it the worst of four by the way, so you can be quite happy at area with money money for it, but it ain't. You can only ever be happy in spite of it, and yet people really really wanted in this actually comes from evolutionary biology, so Evelyn
Harry biologist will say that people want this ratio of people who know you first of the people. You know you want
that we really high, because your more likely, if european chocolate, eight five hundred thousand years ago, your mind or likely to get more bake if you have prestige.
The problem is in the car and the current world. We ve taken the ability to become famous to these in animal height. We can you, can anybody can be felt celebrity on Youtube? If you just do it right, and so the result is that our brains are thank, get our famous, get or famous, and yet every
you talk to achieve, fame they'll say
I can only ever be happy in spite of it by keep running toward it. I can't have it: you had the presence of mind because you're, actually somebody who has battled idolatry
whose battled addiction about digital.
These are real addictions, money, car, pleasure, faint measure, real addictions. You beat at once, it's a! U knowed, it looks like you know with a monster looks like, and I get you
like trying to get in your house all the time you think I'm go do something else and its
I really admire that. What you did it. I knew what you were doing this. I knew you I said:
I can really has presence of my this is this. Is it was very, it right
and it's really weird Arthur, because our kids are there
is pursuing fame. They did that Youtube Facebook there there
All of society is teaching us the exact opposite.
And its encouraging it, and they are looking for fame and I'm telling you I think you are,
absolutely right. That is the worst one. It's battery acid to the soul and
even when
even when you
well, when you recognise that
as you as you become less famous or whatever your
there's something in you. That's like don't know, don't know, no know any other agencies at. I yeah it's crazy. It's real
you crazy lawyers for sure and most people
even adults who are not trying to become Youtube stars and what they want. Is this admiration soda, a form of local fan called prestige? I want the right people to admire me and adjust the admiration of people that people they craves.
Much they worked so hard to get in any recognise that it's not the end of the day. The evil would marry
I don't care if you die, they don't air.
In a few, if you
dear
it's. Why? I think there are so many people that are unwilling to
speak out on things like the me to movement me to movement, it's good it with. We need the balance. You know we
it's made some good things, but it's also been
a just battery acid, on on liberties in and justice and in truth and people will just line up to just pay.
Or it whatever it is because they don't want to lose their prestige. They don't want to be a pariah. Nobody wants to be a pariah
yeah. You want me to take the chance to turn people into pleasures again
serve the other that treaty
desires and other people. It'll it'll basically take away your dignity and the
because you know you know what a Fox news
most NBC or whatever still major profit, making organisations, and also try out man again and again,
get they'll say, don't basically instrumental eyes. I went back and you're not instrument you're. Here.
Being your child with God, you have dignity.
And only you at the end of the day and a few other people in all your spouse. Your care, your phone
These are the people who will stand up for your dignity. That's why, when you stood up for Europe
good, he said I got my own way. I fired it so much and each one of us,
most people are listening to yeoman. Maybe they follow you, they admire you, they take your lead. They love your leadership and they say
yeah. I was different. Amid glinting Arthur had a difficult life, an idea, especially glad as befits guy every single person face,
z decisions all the time we case decisions constantly. Am I going to sell myself for a symbol of myself
I can remember who I am, and
and you too, that is really important, that all of us have wheezed.
We sell our soul. We become that Hollywood star, whatever else
time we at it
a picture of our life, where we take the perfect picture of our life,
posted on Facebook and don't post what
really is going on. You know, I mean we, don't you don't see your life a mess, everybody is, is
skewing it, which makes things worse for you cause you're, not living that life, and it makes it worse for everybody else, because they're like while their living that life and I'm not
its horror, turrible you're, sitting up here, your suit years, advertising your fake life and consuming the fake lives, whether she I got, some good player bind actually on them,
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Give it give me one minute and we'll come right back with what's going to blow our minds more with Arthur, Brooks in just a second great guy, really super smart way. I don't want to talk to him about the free market in the economy. If we can, if we can go,
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Alright Arthur blow our mind. Yet
So I
studying the effects of social media unhappiness and
really via the work about social technologists, San Diego State University in June, twenty eight key w e and g. So they can go. Google, her work, she's there she's, really the leading authority on loneliness and sulphur media, ok, so hot and last that meant about oxytocin, this road transmitter. That gives us pleasure when we connect with
the people. It comes from eye contact and touch. That's one of the rules
Those were craving during a locked down, not enough. I contact not enough touch when people want it. What do they do?
They don't know their craving at other going, for it is kind of like
which is social media, to get more of this
she tells him, they don't know the craving at other going for it is kind of like when you are hungry and your reach for a burger and fries or candy bar. One of the main reasons for the obesity problem in America is too
many calories per nutrient purpose of it carry the nutrient ratios, all goofed up for you.
Too many calories, not the big drink, your body stays hungry. To get the nitrates the same thing.
Social media. Social media is social, junk food. You want oxytocin
You do online, not enough. I contact of touch, which means was just a trickle of this hormone, but your brain is craving as you
the injured on it. The other research shows that less than thirty minutes a day, it makes you happy or cause you're connecting to your friendship, that is to say, a compliment.
More than learning it today becomes a substitute for your relationships and every hour
you spend on it. You will get lonely this mind blowing. Thank you get on it to be less lonely
It makes you alone we're in much the same way that you can end up getting hungrier from eating a wrong through food is not nutrient, that's so what we need to do if we want to be happier
you gotta, get a new technology, get our social media and half an hour a day
time it out across all black
turn it off. Then. After that, the only
acknowledging we should be using to connect stuff like zoo and Skype and face Time Odin get eye contact with
body else and we'll get oxytocin. I have to tell
Arthur, I hey, I don't carry a phone. I hate talking on the phone, but I love face time. Everybody makes fun of me because if you're gonna call Glenn, you gotta face time and I just
I love it, because the I feel
like I'm having a real conversation on the phone. It's just I don't know. I just did
does it work for me. I ate it. What may differ
in your show you're a true people. Person
you're a person. You have a lot of love for other people comes through in your show. It comes through everything that you have done in just a minute.
With you and your feet. You feel like you're with somebody who loves you. This is a great gift. By the way is a wonderful thing: it's an apostle admission.
Actually, but that also means that you're gonna be most prone to these oxytocin deficits. They re most prudent feeling like garbage when you
to isolated, and that means that Europe, a perfect case for somebody we'd, have to use this technology. To get. I contacted aright
you gonna, come back with with Arthur, Brooks where they continue a little bit more on this, and we want to talk about how do we get
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we're with Arthur, see Brooks one of my favorite people in the world, and I think I figured it out why he is he's very good at flattery and which translates in my case, to a very good liar.
They just makes you feel good when you are around him, and I hope you feel that is well. He is east, these
teaching truth
on in at Harvard on leadership, end and fulfilment, and we're talking to him about the three equations for
happy life and the leaf second equation is
let me see if I can get to hear its satisfaction equals. None are: let's that's equation: three, whereas it is habits,
equal faith family
friends plus work,
and you say it's kind of like a bank, if you
you gotta make these in the habits and you gotta be gotta, make a deposit in each of those accounts really,
today, and I am,
there? I find that almost impossible to do
Do I need to understand you know yet during the brake and we took for five minutes and while we are in the break, I checked my messages and I'm getting I'm just getting on board it by,
because now it's really easy get my email or on social media asking just like I did
and so can we wrote that down before so so let me tell people rule
quickly how you can get the stuff you get his enjoy my conversational glad, but at the same time you get the stuff
one is referring to an article in the Atlantic, I've a column in the Atlantic which of the Atlantic Comp called how to
build a life as if you'll just look for the Atlantic and my call and comes out every other Thursday, and I have a pod cast for I talk about all the stuff. Full time called the art of happiness to go through the art of happiness without the broken just subscribed to pocket
It's for! You then go really articles Atlantic. It's free and values, enjoy my conversational neglect, sorry for the advertised, but glad, but that's how people can. I know not eyes. I
I've been doing that for you. I also before you hang up I'd just leave with my producer. I want to get the name of the person in San Diego, but
I was doing a p w he and g and so yeah. That's great yeah. Ok, I'm alright,
family faith, friends and work. I have the hardest time. The
impossible. The balance I've been trying to do is to bring them all together as much as I can, but I'm always short changing something,
the thing that we tend to not shortchange skyward you and me are listening to us is work. You know it, but because that's what we do you never like
I forgot to go to work today, but you always say I forgot my prayers today
how to call my mom today, I forgot to clock is like they think about it, and then you- and I are like I love Glenn Beck- and you like I want to talk to Arthur Brooks- is six months between our conversations that shouldn't be
not just because it is good for us to do the show together, but because we're friends, so
here's how we do it and this is the opportunity of the covert nineteen epidemic. This is what we in a lot of us, are locked up in Boston. So you know there's like stay under the bed.
Very afraid we're not getting is now just talking to a friend of mine in Idaho, you sent me a message and he's working on offence. They have or freedom
there. But what aware you another were
more lockdown we used to be so. What do we do?
with that? We have to set up our own schedule started again,
the day, putting together your schedule not put together for you and put all for those accounts in the schedule. Like look ominously, my prayers, I'm gonna, do it today, on Catholic, you know Europe, let anything we have norms,
things that we do it. I say my rosary every day. It goes in my schedule:
pray my rosary. Now you know it's like it's really important. A should actually have
an hour at the end of the day, where I'm going to face time with these two
people are right and put it into your schedule, so so weird you're, taking as
is what your face and her family
your friendships, because what we do we neglect to stop at our peril. If you put all your happiness into work,
putting your whole pension into greek bonds,
I don't have it right. I will tell you the one thing that I have gotten from this lock down. I am fortunate enough. I live next door. My kids live next door to me
your kids,
and so we ve been locked down as a family and
ass, the interaction of me finishing and I'll walk over to their hours after the show and I'll be like ay what's happening and play with a grand kids. Just
now minutes and then to
and then seeing them later in the day
my world is so balanced right now, I'm going you really miss it. When I go
act to work
for sure absolutely, and if you only do work or his work is a good thing again to character.
Six at work to bring your happiness, not fame, not tower not money,
I mean that stuff can be ok, but it should be about, Sir,
bring others and earning your success. This is by the way. This is the psychological basis
why I love democratic capitalism, because democratic cap
it was in the capitalist system which, in order to try to get too in this hour, is the only system that allows people to earn their success on a mass basis
the back family, didn't come on some boat in the late nineteenth century thing. It showed a great
America, with a better system of forced income redistribution when a bachelor like an ambitious reform
I found a built, my wife and you don't early us serving others. Ass, the sea
two to happiness, your work and if we don't wait, an actual
in its own right
it is also, I think, the secret to why our capitalist system is not functioning the way it should, because
it is seeking now Anne and giving you know how to be powerful, how to be famous. You know how to make money. When
capitalism really works, or the free market really works. It is the best
heritage system out there, because I see
at home, and I think how can I serve people? How can I make their life better? How can I wear? How can I
what can I create that will help
them with their life, and
if you have that moral sentiment
wanting to help people you'll get rich, their life will be, you know, of easier,
you'll be fulfilled. I mean
Just read system
absolutely unless, unless we
pursuing the wrong for dolls and his money
right grave. We're in trouble is its family friends and work that serves others where our success, then everything actually falls into place
and one of the things you talk about culture, a lot on her show ed, and you talk about a really compellingly, because there is a certain sense of regret. What we lose a society, not because we move away from capitalism, but because, because markets require morals that we
actually have to have a well ordered moral sentiments or the capitalist system morning a work. Some people think that the markets freed over these can be find that that's all that's actually wrong. Unless we
you have our priorities in order as human beings made to serve each other, lift each other up your theory, adventure and life. Basically, its s, each one
has a start up its color life, that's the
replies of life amid a by the way you were.
Leaving your Europe is doing your start up when you left octaves, you didn't know,
Do I didn't know you wind up in a warehouse outside it outside a Dallas, make it new empire, but Europe,
and went back ink as a start up, because that's the true adventure of life, but that comes from a certain way of life and that's not good enough. If its money power pleasure, fame,
so. Let me talk about the free market and and how we can navigate these tough times Arthur, I think, you'll agree. These are,
we are going into are going to be the roughest economically of of
lifetime. This is probably going back to depression.
And we were
can do it, although I don't think we have enough people in Washington that believe in the american people to free them,
and we are doing all kinds of things that go against the free market. I've been pushing for America
to be called an economic. What what is it? What was it does do at economic empowerment zone that we are
We relax some of these things and incur
people to get back to work, but I think the opposite is
is also being pushed. How do we
How do we navigate these without eating each other, and
and without losing
our freedoms,
To begin with, we should remember how many people are saying that this is an indictment of capitalism which actually happening during the cold. It nineteen epidemic enough. Of course, ridiculous. I mean that
I made the whole what's going on today within a moribund economy and people not being able to do what they need to do with their work does like any,
Tuesday and socialism
it would facilitate the exception to the rule, and capitalism is worth pointing out that only capital
I'm gonna save us. Nobody thinks that some dictatorship is going to develop the Corbett.
Came back scene of common from capitalism
we may be messy, we maybe our protest,
all the time and not being able to get along sure, that's good. We have a lot of freedom
but we would also this crisis and we will solve it for the rest of the world. Mark my words now: what
they do remember about ourselves. Remember that our culture is very important for us
member that only we can save our economy for what has happened, and that requires each of us to
or in the water hole.
The other the government is going to be able to support people forever, isn't say, I'm glad we're public policies that can increase safety.
On a big believer in the safety, and I love the safety. But
we cannot have made the safety net possible. You knows of the first time in history,
unable to take care of her brothers and sisters, and neither do we have that, that's because of the large ass an and why
that actually comes from the capitalist system is also the case that
We will come out of this and the only
reason we're gonna come out of this is because of hard work and human endeavour, and the start up of our lives are getting.
Had gone again, as we must not stand in the way of that as a government or the people. So
when we are really talking about opening up the economy, etc. I think I wonder I re read after years of owing to fear fear itself speech.
Just what couple minutes ago,
I think, we're in the same place where really it is our fear
that is, is stopping us and fear is being preached,
everywhere now
How do we open this up? What it would mean because we gotta get back in doing stuff, but
people or are afraid
maybe some ways rightfully so we analyse
fear, comes from uncertainty. It open
actually knew what the possible outcomes are? Had? Probabilities item wicked ensuring that called risk insurance industry, but on there's no
that insurance. You can't buy an insurance policy against uncertainty and let the Butler Portal
uncle the amygdala they get stimulated and gives you discomfort when you're in it kept you alive. I mean all of us are alive today, because we jump out of the way of a moving car, but what is chronically stimulated by our circumstances were were fearful,
unhappy were uncomfortable, nuts was gone. I like you to hear that
the solution here: the antidote United again, I'm an economist, but I wind up doing this that happiness work because it's more fulfilling.
At the end of the day and is one of the things that we know is that the opposite of fear is love. People think that love and hatred
opposite: they're, not hatred is downstream from fear. So when you have to
here in your life and a lot of people are really fearful. The answer is not to try to stamp out the fear Unita
round it in love, and so this is what we
actually need truth, which is gets if we feel fear part of our conversation about oxytocin the only winners and solve the problem, and this is why
was garment of truth, which is that, if we feel fear-
We need more love and that's the only thing I found the problem.
And this is why Martin Luther King one-
we have a fear bay was pain, was preaching love when you go ahead,
right now- we are very much of a fear by politics in it. It proceeds pretty, predictably from
Two thousand and eight financial crisis or a lot of us
Petitions are basically saying you don't be afraid of the other guy somebody's got to stop and I'm gonna get it back. I understand that rhetoric, but a cat last forever, all
but let me look even
have strong views, were free marketeers. We believe in a better society. We promote the american military because America's a force for good in the world and all that, but it's on the basis of the love for,
society the love our country, love for each other and indeed
even a love for the people who disagree with us politically and people around the world. Who does yes us as if not based on fear of anything I mean America is not a fearful country, and so that's what we need all of us, the leadership positions which includes by the way, not just Glenn and Arthur, but every single person whose
Something is a leader, you have a leadership capability, use it for love, and you will be parched part of the reason that we solve the crisis from the Corbett. Nineteen epidemic,
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today. I want to reintroduce you to somebody who really makes me feel, like I don't know like. I have all my priorities wrong there. Every time I talk to Arthur Brooks, I think we should be best friends. Why don't I wide? Why am I not talking to you all the time you he is so bright and he is also one of the happiest warriors I've ever met, but I never for some reason I just
because it s part of their lines of you? That's the lively. Each added- and I say it really is a really is he's now, a professor of practice at Harvard Kennedy School. He is a senior fellow at the Harvard Business School D is the producer of the pursuit. He knows more about what makes the free market work and and what makes America so different and and how to convince others that it's worth doing it this way. This helps more people and more people are happy under a free market than any other system or to talk to him about the free market, but also about the crisis that the cover of the corona virus really has put on us that we're not talking about yet and that its depression, loneliness and a general lack of happiness. Arthur Brooks one of my favorite guests in one minute back programme, nobody wakes up in the morning saying man. I really hope when I look in the mirror, I've got crows feet in a double chin and maybe some dark spots for good measure. Nobody does that. If you know someone who does stop talking to that person,
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It should be. I I'd like I feel like I was separated at birth from the sky
and exactly the same way right at the same. We do we will love America, but we're not or not uncritical
We see what we're all we want to make it right. We,
we were we're both classically trained French harnessed so
I know that to you. I don't know it's just you hit you so Arthur. You are now teaching at Harvard Kennedy School and you heard what what
exactly is the class. Your teaching, what is it you're teaching? So I'm a professor of leadership,
that harboured and and I spent two schools harboured Kennedy schools- the policy schooled arbored at an order to the school is obviously age, bs, where people get their abuse and I keep classes leadership the policy side that each classes and happiness at Harvard Business School.
I've, done the most incredible opportunity of ever had I just finished the super popular, very oversubscribed class, called leadership and happiness to my mba students right before they all had to leave and will not come back now. Do the
that does the school and the students do. They know how
much of a free market guy you who occur-
I think, a lloyd. Most universities in America today will accept a free market year on a case by case basis
and you know that the nice thing about it, is more like most universities, hurry diversity has seen a most of the people pretty must waning, but what I love about it
the real it's a real marketplace for ideas in it, an appreciation for people who think differently. Psych stop incredibly welcome. I love
I have to say I will end my students are small and everybody mixes up its fight there
not be a better.
Ass, God or or champion of the free market and our system than you, I'm thrilled the Europe there making an impact.
Talk you a little bit about an article that you just wrote on happiness.
And fulfilment, because we have,
something that we are really talking about. One of the real unintended consequences of of what's happening with Cove it is people are wildly lonely, lonely ass. They did, but according to research lowliest,
the Americans have ever been and we have real fear doubt p
we are going to be. You know how many people have already lost their job. That just
horrible things to people. So I wanted to talk to you about happiness, because in this article you you said that there's theirs.
Equations
to take us through the three equations of
of how we can get better.
I appreciate that in Geneva back up a little bit, the loneliness thing is a really interesting problem, because most of us, when we leave, are relationships up to our circumstances
No, we can't, I mean most of us actually feel good towards other people, maybe not end up in a puzzling party but seeing other people, but we,
No, why we feel gotten as an answer to that, and the answer is that is under a transmitter. That's created by the human brain called oxytocin, not to be confused with our continent. Obviously, but there actually sit behind so far is that oxytocin makes us feel physically
and when people are really lovely they'll take drugs because I actually want to substitute for
This is one of the reasons that bit the twenty percent of active duty troops in Vietnam WAR addicted to heroin, but when they were
when it came back and they got their oxytocin in their brains, which came from contact with others. Ninety five percent spontaneously
using heroin other first day back. This stuff is soon I'll powerful and where we don't
into a kill. This oxytocin is Neuro. Transmitters hormones in the human brain organ actually feel
well suited to the challenges in offer. Public policy makers leaders is understanding that we have to make cost benefit calculations where people are not going to become depressed and lonely. Even if there's some risk to society is marrying
rest of us, we have to understand that a big decisions where we can get our fix of the ox that God wants us to have
I don't know if you remember John Huntsmen Senior, but he was a friend of mine and grew up dirt. Poor became
a billionaire and
a guy that really had everything had a great family at a great business gray, reputation more money than you know that
family, but you know they only family was poor, but let just add just had a lot and you would look
outside in you would say this guy there's no way this guy couldn't be happy and he was happy. Was fulfilled but he taught me,
something one of the first times a kind of became a mentor mine and
we're just walking around in his yard is backyard in the end he said so Glenn
much is enough.
And I said what
and he said how much is enough. Now here's a guy who's walking around and we are on the side of a mountain that he owned.
And how he said
I don't know I don't know, and he said: will you
have to decide and you have to decide right now. He said because we
you get there. You are
recognize it cause. It won't be enough, so you have to recognize it now, otherwise always be pursuing it.
That's right and entered. The key thing is that the key thing to remember is that their basically for things that your brain is telling it a change that are idols and they won't bring happiness, and there are four things you should be chasing. So here's basically so I'll, give everybody a second. We most need us.
All million relation to us right now pick up a dreadful to.
The thing is it your brain that mother nature is telling you you're really really want our money, power, pleasure and pain.
And say means prestige or whatever it. The admiration of other people gave money power pleasure in fact those
think about it? You gotta, kill. Five will be happy there, but there were all your idle. They took their a hundred. Eighty degrees offer what you really want. Here's what you really want Biddle, actually give you in securing happiness, face family friendship and will work
that serves others and where you can earn your success? That's it that's your happiness, port,
All of those are the places we to put your deposit mother name,
sure by the way, doesn't care
for me not withstanding the thing I talk to others, oxy toasted and our brains, mother, nature, she's like it, I could get famous than you finally be happy you'll, be on the hit dawning treadmill on the head.
MR wheel of life for the rest of your life. That's why John Huntsmen Glenn?
What's your number, why? Because the
the chance. You can answer that question to get off the treadmill, and it is,
its again, one of the reasons why I left Fox is because
wanted
notice that I was starting to want the fame and I knew cause I'm an alcoholic. I had already washed out once I knew these things and
is the minute I wanted it. I I realized I meant to destroy myself. I mean it. You and that's why
people who are famous
he generally will sell their sole or their powerful in Congress. They'll sell their sole because
they wanted and they just keep trading away the things of real meaning in value Gloria
fame, is a really is it the worst of four by the way, so you can be quite happy at area with money money for it, but it ain't. You can only ever be happy in spite of it, and yet people really really wanted in this actually comes from evolutionary biology. So Evelyn
Very biologist will say that people want this ratio of people who know you first of the people. You know you want
but we really high, because your more likely if Europe, the chocolate eight five hundred thousand years ago, your lying or likely to get more bake, if you have prestige
The problem is that occur in the current world. We ve taken the ability to become famous to these incredible height. We can you. Can anybody can be a swell celebrity on Youtube? If you just do it right, and so the result is that our brains are thank, get our famous, get or famous, and yet every
you talk to achieve, fame, they'll, say
I can only ever be happy in spite of it. I keep running toward it. I can't have it. You are the presence of mind because you're, actually somebody who has battled idolatry
whose battled addiction about Digital,
These are real addictions, money, car, pleasure, faint measure, real addictions. You beat at once, it's a u Knowed, it looks like you know. The monster looks like, and I get you
like trying to get in your house all the time you think I'm go do something else and its
I really admired that when you did it, I knew what you were doing cuz. I knew you I said
I can really has presence of my this is this. Is it was very it right
and it's really weird Arthur, because our kids are there.
Is pursuing fame. They did the Youtube Facebook there there
all of society is teaching us. The exact opposite
and its encouraging it, and they are looking for fame and I'm telling you, I think you are
absolutely right. That is the worst one. It's battery acid to the soul and
even when
even when you
well when you recognise that
as you as you become less famous or whatever your
there's something in you. That's like don't know, don't know, no know any other agencies at I yeah it's crazy. It's real
you, crazy folios brochure and most people
even adults who are not trying to become you tube stars and what they want. Is this admiration soda, a form of local fan called prestige. I want the right people to admire me and adjust the admiration of people that people they craves
much. They worked so hard to get in any recognise that it's not the end of the day. The evil admiring
I don't care if you die, they don't air
in a few, if you,
dear,
it's why? I think there are so many people that are unwilling to
speak out on things like the me to movement me to movement. It's good it with. We need the balance. You know we
it's made some good things, but it's also been.
Adjust battery acid on on liberties in and justice and in truth and people will just line up to just pay.
Or it whatever it is because they don't want to lose their prestige. They don't want to be a pariah. Nobody wants to be a pariah.
Yeah. You want me to take the chance to turn people into pleasures again
serve the under that treaty,
desires and other people it'll it'll, basically take away your dignity and the
because you know you know what a Fox news
most NBC or whatever still major profit, making organisations and also try out man again and again
Can they ll say, don't basically instrumental eyes? I went back and you're not instrument you're. Here
being your child with God. You have dignity,
and only you at the end of the day and a few other people in all your spouse, your care, your phone.
These are the people who will stand up for your dignity? That's why, when you stood up for Europe,
good. He said I got my own way. I fired it so much and each one of us
most people are listening to yeoman. Maybe they follow you, they admire you, they take your lead, they love your leadership and they say.
Yeah! I was different amid glinting Arthur had a difficult life, an idea, especially glad he speaks and sky every single person face
Z decisions all the time we case decisions constantly. Am I going to sell myself for a symbol of myself.
I can remember who I am, and
and you too, that is really important- that all of us have wheezed
we sell our soul. We become that Hollywood star, whatever else
time we at it?
a picture of our life, where we take the perfect picture of our life,
posted on Facebook and don't post what
really is going on. You know I mean we, don't you don't see your life a mess, everybody is is,
skewing it, which makes things worse for you cause you're, not living that life, and it makes it worse for everybody else, because they're like, while their living that life and I'm not
its horror, turrible you're, sitting up here, your suit years, advertising your fake life and consuming the fake lives, whether she I got, some good player bind actually on them.
Eleven way way way search you got. We are you all right they give
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Alright, Arthur blow our mind yet
so I
studying the effects of social media unhappiness and,
really via the work of our social technologists at San Diego State University in June, twenty key w e and g. So they can go. Google, her work, she's there she's, really the leading on forty on loneliness and sulphur media case are hot and last Egmont about oxytocin this road transmitter. That gives us pleasure when we connections
the people, it comes from eye contact and touch. That's one of the rules
these were crazy during a locked down, not enough, I contact not enough touch when people want it. What do they do?
They turned to the second best substitute.
Which is social media. To get more of this
she tells him they don't know the craving at other. Going for it is kind of like when you are hungry and your reach for a burger and fries or candy bar one of the main reasons for the obesity problem in America is too
Many calories per nutrient purpose of it carry the nutrient ratios, all goofed up for you,
too many calories, not the big drink. Your body states, Hungary, to get the nutrients the same things
social media, social media is social junk food. You want Oxytocin
you do online, not enough. I contact of touch, which means was just a trickle of this hormone, but your brain is craving as you
danger on it. The research shows that less than thirty minutes a day, it makes you happy or cause you're connecting to your friendship, that is to say a compliment,
more than learning it today becomes a substitute for your relationships and every hour,
you spend on it, you will get lonely, but this mind blowing. Thank you get on it to be less lonely.
It makes you alone we're in much the same way that you can end up getting hungrier from eating a wrong through food. Is not nutrient, that's so what we need to do if we want to be happier
You gotta get a new technology, get awful social media and half an hour a day.
Time it out across all black
turn it off then. After that the only
acknowledging we should be using to connect stuff like zoo and Skype and face Time Odin get eye contact with.
Buddy else and we'll get are toast. I have to tell
Arthur. I hey, I don't carry a phone, I hate talking on the phone, but I love face time. Everybody make fun of me because if you're gonna call Glenn, you gotta face time, and I just
I love it, because I feel
like I'm, having a real conversation on the phone. It's just I don't know I just did
Does it work for me? I ate it. What may differ
so could you you're a true people person
you're a person. You have a lot of love for other people, a comes through in your show. It comes through everything that you have done in just a minute.
With you and your feet, you feel like you're with somebody who loves you. This is a great gift. By the way is a wonderful thing: it's an apostle admission
actually, but that also means that you're gonna be most prone to these oxytocin deficits. They re most prudent feeling like garbage when you,
to isolated, and that means that Europe, a perfect case for somebody we'd, have to use this technology to get. I contacted. Aright
you to come back with with Arthur, Brooks where they continue a little bit more on this, and we want to talk about. How do we get?
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We're with Arthur, see Brooks one of my favorite people in the world, and I think I figured it out why he is he's very good at flattery and which translates in my case, to a very good liar
They just makes you feel good when you are around him- and I hope you feel that is well. He is east these,
teaching truth
on in at Harvard on leadership, end and fulfilment, and we're talking to him about the three equations for
happy life and the leaf second equation? Is
let me see if I can get to hear its satisfaction equals. None are let's that's equation: three, whereas it is a habit
equal faith, family
friends plus work,
and you say it's kind of like a bank. If you
you. Gotta make these in the habits and you gotta, be you make a deposit in each of those accounts really
today, and I am
there? I find that almost impossible to do
Do I need to understand you know yet during the brake and we took for five minutes and while we are in the break, I checked my messages and I'm getting I'm just getting on board it by
because now it's really easy get my email or on social media asking is like I did.
And so can we wrote that down before so so let me tell people rule
quickly how you can get the stuff you get his enjoy my conversational glad, but at the same time you get the stuff
Glenn is referring to an article in the Atlantic, I've a column in the Atlantic which of the Atlantic Comp called how to
build a life as if you'll just look for the Atlantic and my call and comes out every other Thursday, and I have a pod cast for I talk about all the stuff full time called the art of happiness to go through the art of happiness without the broken just subscribed to pocket
its or you can go. Read the article faint landing. It's free and values enjoy my conversational neglect, sorry for the advertised, but glad, but that's how people can. I know not eyes. I
have been doing that for you. I also before you hang up I'd just leave with my producer. I want to get the name of the person in San Diego, but
I was doing a p w he and g. So yeah, that's great yeah. Ok, I'm alright,
family, faith, friends and work. I have the hardest time the
impossible, the balance I've been trying to do is to bring them all together as much as I can, but I'm always short changing something.
The thing that we tend to not shortchange, skyward, you and me listen to us is work. You know it, but because that's what we do you never like
I forgot to go to work today, but you always have forgotten my prayers today.
How to call my mom today, I forgot to clock is like they think about it, and then you- and I are like I love Glenn Beck and you like I want to talk to Arthur, Brooks- is six months between our conversations that shouldn't be
not just because it is good for us to do the show together, but because we're friends so
here's how we do it, and this is the opportunity of the covert nineteen epidemic. This is what we in a lot of us, are locked up in Boston. So you know there's like stay under the bed.
Very afraid, we're not getting is now just talking to a friend of mine in Idaho. You sent me a message and he's working on offence. They have or freedom
there. But what aware you another were
more lockdown, we used to be so. What do we do
with that, we have to set up. Our own schedule started again
the day, putting together your schedule not put together for you and put all for those accounts in the schedule? Like look ominously, my prayers, I'm gonna! Do it today, on Catholic, you know Europe, let anything we have norms,
things that we do in. I say my rosary every day. It goes in my schedule,
pray, my rosary now you know it's like it's really important. A should actually have
an hour at the end of the day, where I'm going to face time with these two
people are right and put it into your schedule, so so weird you're, taking as
is what your face and her family
your friendships, because what we do we neglect to stop at our peril. If you put all your happiness into work,
Putting your whole pension into greek bonds.
I don't have it right. I will tell you the one thing that I have gotten from this lock down. I am fortunate enough. I live next door. My kids live next door to me
Your kids
and so we ve been locked down as a family, and
ass the interaction of me finishing and I'll walk over to their hours after the show and I'll be like ay what's happening and play with a grand kids just
Fifteen minutes and then coming
and then seeing them later in the day,
my world is so balanced right. Now, I'm going you really miss it. When I go
act to work.
For sure absolutely and if you only do work or his work is a good thing again to character.
Six at work to bring your happiness, not fame, not tower, not money,
I mean that stuff can be ok, but it should be about sir,
bring others and earning your success. This is by the way. This is the psychological basis.
Why. I love democratic capitalism, because democratic cap,
It was in the capitalist system which, in order to try to get too in this hour, is the only system that allows people to earn their success on a mass basis
the back family didn't come on some boat in the late nineteenth century thing it showed a great deal.
America with a better system of forced income redistribution. When a like an ambitious reform
I found a built, my wife and you too early success serving others ass, the sea
two to happiness, your work, and if we don't wait, an actual
in its own right,
It is also, I think, the secret to why our capitalist system is not functioning the way it should, because
it is seeking now Anne and giving you know how to be powerful. How to be famous. You know how to make money when
capitalism really works or the free market really works. It is the best
parity system out there, because I see-
at home? And I think how can I serve people? How can I make their life better? How can I wear? How can I
What can I create that will help
them with their life and
If you have that moral sentiment,
wanting to help people you'll get rich, their life will be. You know of easier,
you'll be fulfilled. I mean
just read system
absolutely unless, unless we
pursuing the wrong for dolls and his money,
right grave. We're in trouble is its family friends and work that serves others where our success, then everything actually falls into place,
and one of the things you talk about culture, a lot on her show ed, and you talk about a really compellingly, because there is a certain sense of regret. What we lose a society, not because we move away from capitalism, but because, because markets require morals that we
actually have to have a well ordered moral sentiments or the capitalist system morning a work. Some people think that the markets freed over these can be find that, that's all that's actually wrong. Unless we
you have our priorities in order as human beings made to serve each other, lift each other up your theory, adventure and life, basically its s, each one.
Has a start up its color life. That's the
replies of life. Amid a by the way you were
leaving your Europe is doing your start up. When you left foxes, you didn't know
do. I know you know wind up in a warehouse outside a outside cited Dallas, make it new empire, but Europe
in going back in as a start up, because that's the true adventure of life, but that comes from a certain way of life and that's not good enough. If its money power pleasure fame
so? Let me talk about the free market and and how we can navigate these tough times Arthur. I think, you'll agree. These are
we are going into are going to be the roughest economically of of
lifetime. This is probably going back to depression
and we were
can do it, although I don't think we have enough people in Washington that believe in the american people to free them
and we are doing all kinds of things that go against the free market. I've been pushing for America
to be called an economic. What what is it? What was it does do at economic empowerment zone that we are
we relax some of these things and incur,
people to get back to work, but I think the opposite is
is also being pushed. How do we
how do we navigate these without eating each other and
and without losing
our freedoms.
To begin with, we should remember how many people are saying that this is an indictment of capitalism which actually happening during the cold. It nineteen epidemic enough, of course, ridiculous. I mean that
I mean the whole, what's going on today within a moribund economy and people not being able to do what they need to do with their work does like any
Tuesday and socialism,
It would facilitate the exception to the rule, and capitalism is worth pointing out that only capital
I'm gonna, save us. Nobody thinks that some dictatorship is going to develop the Corbett
came back scene of common from capitalism.
We may be messy, we maybe our protest.
All the time and not being able to get along sure. That's good. We have a lot of freedom
but we will solve this crisis and we will solve it for the rest of the world. Mark my words now: what
they do remember about ourselves. Remember that our culture is very important for us.
Member that only we can save our economy for what has happened, and that requires each of us to
or in the water hole
Neither the government is going to be able to support people forever, isn't faint. Now, I'm glad that we are public policies that can create safety,
on a big believer in the safety and I love the safety but
we can't have made the safety net possible? You knows of the first time in history
and it take care of her brothers and sisters in need. We have that. That's because of the large ass an and why
that actually comes from the capitalist system is also the case that
we will come out of this and the only
reason we're gonna come out of. This is because of hard work and human endeavour, and the start up of our lives are getting
had gone again, and so we must not stand in the way of that as a government or the people so
when we are really talking about opening up the economy, etc. I think I wonder I re read after years of owing to fear, fear itself, speech
Just what couple minutes ago,
I think we're in the same place where really it is our fear.
That is, is stopping us and fear is being preached
everywhere. Now
How do we open this up? What it would mean, because we gotta get back in doing stuff, but
people or are afraid
maybe some ways rightfully so we analyse
fear comes from uncertainty, it open
actually knew what the possible outcomes are had probabilities, ANA wicked insure against called risk insurance industry, but on there's no
that insurance. You can't buy an insurance policy against uncertainty and let the butler Portal
uncle the amygdala they get stimulated and gives you discomfort when you're in it kept you alive. I mean all of us are alive today, because we jump out of the way of a moving car. But what is chronically stimulated by our circumstances were were fearful
unhappy were uncomfortable. Nuts was gone. I want you to hear that,
The solution here, the antidote united. Again, I'm an economist, but I wind up doing this that happiness work because it's more fulfilling
at the end of the day and is one of the things that we know is that the opposite of fear is love. People think that love and hatred,
opposite they're, not hatred, is downstream from fear. So, when you have to,
fear in your life, and a lot of people are really fearful. The answer is not to try to stamp out the fear Unita,
round it in love, and so this is what we
actually need, as it gets back to the early part of our conversation about oxytocin loneliness relationships, faith, family and friends. It all comes into this.
Was garment of truth, which is that if we feel fear
we need more love and that's the only thing I found the problem.
And this is why Martin Luther King, one
we have a fear bay was pain. Was preaching love when you go ahead
right now we have very much of a fear by politics in it it proceeds pretty. Predictably, from
two thousand and eight financial crisis or a lot of us.
Patients are basically saying you don't be afraid of the other guy, he d somebody's got to stop and I'm gonna get it back. I understand that rhetoric, but it can't last forever. All
but let me look even
have strong views were free marketeers. We believe in a better society. We promote the american military because America's a force for good in the world and all that, but it's on the basis of the love for
society, the love our country, love for each other, and indeed
even a love for the people who disagree with us politically and people around the world. Who does yes us as if not based on fear of anything. I mean America is not a fearful country, and so that's what we need all of us. The leadership positions which includes by the way not just Glenn and Arthur, but every single person whose
something is a leader. You have a leadership capability, use it for love, and you will be parched part of the reason that we solve the crisis from the Corbett nineteen epidemic.
Arthur Brooks me as series is in the Atlantic: how to build a life. You can also follow him at Arthur. Brooks dot com has a pie.
Cast the art of happiness that is well worth your time and
If you are at home and watched everything on Netflix, you thank you,
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man, it's it's by Arthur any takes you all around the world, and it is you want to debunk above socialism in Sweden, why
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You and
let's, let's not have six months
between our next conversation. Thank you so much. I agreed when God bless, you bless you bet by such a great guy. Such a great guy aren't lifelong. I don't want to inject fear. Well, I'm not going to you know, what's happening where people are. You know sittin in their underpants in Vienna, in their basement of of mother, Russia's house and
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hack your devices and they can steal your identity and that
I'll destroy so much that you have built and it's hard to get it back
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