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I have to say about where we stand a theological, spiritually, morally Phyllis, quickly in Amerika, you get your copies and leave us a five star review. We would appreciate that today we're gonna we're gonna. Do it again, but at a different level, we're gonna. Do it politically today, because It seems as if I mean what was the election gosh. no some years ago, he does feel like that right November, third, correct that was noon on Wednesday I think it was November third, since when in public school math and my head today's December thirtieth, I was twenty seven. Fifty seven, days ago, fifty seven days ago and Let's face it! It's it's not over. There are still court challenges that are going on as we speak, that January six, this being circled is a date while the, U S, Congress, step in

it has its permitted to do as it did for Thomas Jefferson and the election of ten hundred you have Lui Gomer, Texas, congressmen is suing device, The republican congressmen assuming the republican vice president of the United States, to try and get him to use the powers that he has overseeing the electoral college. I mean this this. still an on going story for a lot people in our audience and. at some point, though this where he's going to end by at some point the stories going to end. On January twentieth, someone is getting sworn in as president of United States right, What else did Ten, zero with weak, we jump the alien shark man, so I just down now, ok presumably historically

traditionally observe good hope. So getting inaugurated all saints day in January, we're not really sure, but there will be an event at some point: correct tradition and history. All things we love you're, not helping your case mail, and I know that's why I started laughing as soon as I start exciting those ideals, and so did you. Yes, ostensibly potentially James for thirteen notwithstanding. Yes, exactly right something's going down the right You know the thing: yeah, ok, our there. You know what I'm saying. Ok there's a gonna, be a georgeous Senate run off allegedly a week from yesterday right, yeah. Ok baby guy. I was doing some reading yesterday on the early voting there. Have you seen the numbers I haven't seen me up. Date, numbers I saw, the numbers are other week ago, they're out of this world out of this world early voting numbers,

other drop boxes and everybody irony, let everybody loved them their meaning. Let them their Stacy Abrams said it was incredible. Yeah like incredible indeed, indeed so, these events are going to take place in an they will signify a new government happens in the Georgia Senate, run off will determine who controls the United States Senate then a couple of weeks later. Maybe I guess we'll have in inauguration and if its in person, one You know that it's Donald Trump and if it's over zoom in virtual you'll know it's Joe by right now There lies a slogan but either A new government is coming in here in the next thirty days and that means the parrot is going to shift or will it.

if you're a conservative. We are where we think we are I mean when you look at some of the people these days. They call themselves conservatives the three of us look at each other and are like maybe It's not what we are anymore. Ok, but if you Call yourself a conservative, I mean the route word of any word. Is it with? The word means it means I to conserve. What is it you're trying to conserve those with Todd would say the true in the beautiful I would put it the things that have been revealed in history, east of Eden to be what's best, for the human condition so the things that that cause. our God given potential the best, opportunity to flourish to both love God in love, our neighbours and to use up, is met of the God given potential that he's placed in each one of us, as we possibly can

the things we are trying to conserve. our ability to do so or how we are going to be able to do so will be altered within the next month, That is not in dispute. What is debate is how much and to what end so over the course of the programme. Here this morning we're gonna have a round table conversation gotta be joined by They have been involved with a lotta campaigns covered a lot campaigns in my career, what makes me a little different than a lot of other people that do Conservative media is of actually worked in republican party politics. I've worked on Camp it's been a few years now. For me, the last when I worked on was taken. his presidential campaign strategist. But I've and the nuts and bolts operation of this of of recruited candidates? Of

help them raise money. I've done more than just which is very port and by the way, but the the ideological work that is done in conservative media or the the information work that is done on issues and conservative media that all is very, very important, but Ultimately, it has to apply to ethically, something and ass a result in something otherwise we're just sitting here and pontificating into the into the Cosmo right, we wanted to end up being the writ. something being the result of our participation and I've done resulting. It gives me a little bit different perspective than the lot of the other people that you listen to, and conservative media will. The gentlemen we're gonna have with us for part of this conversation today, has done as much. If not more than me. He's one of the few people. I've met in our industry that in an hour, movement puts my teeth on edge. Makes me nervous about what he's gonna say. Next, as

I often due to all the people around me and and frankly I love that about him, because it's it's it's only person. I've met in our movement, that when I am around them, I now become the good guy, I'm MR reasonable- and I never get to ever- be that I'm the grim reaper everywhere I go, but he is the profit of war. And lamentation issues need summit at this time of year right happy new year. Indeed, so we'd have a round table discussion this morning. What's the state of play conservatives in America heading into the new year. We the clean up follow up crew to Glenn back on the bill, unglazed TB each day, noonday to Eastern I worthy today show that would be misty days. Erin Macintyre Todd arisen and we're gonna have a round table conversation about the state of play for conservatives and conservatism heading in the new year and, of course,

we have to have another member of our panel? He is our colleague here at the blaze and conservative review. I we have dubbed them the profit of woe and lamentation our good friend Daniel Horwitz. Could have your brother happy new year to you, and I could have you with us here today and the Glenn Beck Happy New year even crew- and I guess steve- you really don't- want to be invited back on glens- show next year You know me, I love to alienate people, it's my spiritual gift and I go out of my way to do it and the Lamb friends, and events on my calendar during this vacation proved Indeed, how successful I am at that endeavour. Right I mean not even taught in air and call me when I'm on vacation there. Like a may, we gotta get away from the stewed they were practicing social distancing long before some six year olds, research paper brought it up and convince CDC to go with it. So here we are

got a series of questions. Gentlemen, that I want us to tackle this morning and I got to think before we got a gun on the air. Today, if I were not host for blaze, tv or fill it in on the glint back programme this morning by yeah, I was involved in conservative politics in my local Republican Party in college Republicans long before I ever got involved in media right in and so, if I was one of our listeners, one of our viewers and I'm surveying the new year, and I know that there is a Georgia Senate run off. Let's get it determines the balance of power in that chamber, somebody's eventually getting inaugurated somewhere around January twentieth for president, even though its day, fifty seven of the election that won't beat one end and won't satisfy anybody, because there are still so many questions. We don't have the answers to but eventually time will move on the governing part of this

will begin in two thousand and twenty one, and so on, if I were on the other end of this conversation I returned in today on hundreds of radio stations around the country were later on. Glenda Glinda broadcast me if I knew that they were going to a round table conversation about where we as conservative stand, what questions- I'd want to get answered it. So try to ask us as today those questions half of the audience so doing I want to start with you. Let let's go with a big picture question What is one word that you Daniel would use to describe the current critical predicament for conservatives and why what the one word you would choose and why to describe where we are. Are heading into twenty twenty one, well Steve, given that I have to realise

This is no longer the internet that I'm used to. So we are governed by the FCC so that eliminate certain workers and applied. let's see rolling, aren't you going to say frolicking right, ok. Actually, let's see cheated disenfranchised homeless, stateless masked, muzzled, gagged, silenced, censored expense oh all around down and out and already America knows why I does TIM, the profit of woe and lamentation. I asked for one word: he gave us twenty eight and they descended in negativity from

three on, but continue your answer. Go ahead. Daniel Steve, I mean look, they all have the same theme. What would happen if you are governed by the Bolsheviks in the Mensheviki and begun to pretty yeah yeah, pretty tough tussles there? Well, where does that leave us? And I think it's all of those words put together where we do not have a team. We are disenfranchised headed Ford. We don't have a leader, we don't have a movement,

We don't have a political party. We don't have a seat at the table to air any of our grievances to redress any of those grievances, whether its current fascism, whether its grown crime, whether its debt dependency socialism. Where is the team on the field cause I'm not seen it, and I think that is our challenge into twenty twenty one to create that team to get on the map to get some sort of representation in some part of the country where our views could get there just airing. That is our challenge, and I know I sound pretty damn with that. But I think because we ve hit rock bottom, perhaps is nowhere to go but up for mere errand same question to you. What one word would you used to describe where we as conservative stand heading in the new year? And why did you choose that with fear?

is what I would choose in the one word that I would use to decide to describe. we're. Conservatives are and what their current petals goal predicament is and fear, I believe, is what is governed conservative movement for far too long. It's it's! Why we're locked into this really abusive relationship with the republican Party? Now I dont mean fear is being any time you vote for Republican of defence is different then fear. If you ve for reasons of republican because You wants the government off of your back at least the federal government off your back while you go local. If you will that that's not fear, fear, is fear making fear base decisions makes you four for Mitt Romney after John Mccain, instead of just saying no get a better nominee, you mean during the primary during the primary says:

so those those types of things? I think our why we are where we are right now and ties into twelve will be talking about in a little bit as well, but I think, as long as we're making decisions based out of fear of what the left will do and by all means they want to do to this country is very fearful is very fear son, so I dont mean that to mitigate them, but as long as we keep thinking that Republicans are going to be the saviour. The solution to me, making a fear based decisions. I think it's just rife with fear right now taught tumbleweed Just any It's an inert formerly alive now dead, saying blown about by forces not have its own creation, not of its own. Well, just drifting down a vast wasteland. Exactly desolate because

listen even able, and I'm using your terms, literate We're talking about conservatives are not simply talking about Republicans theirs, Texas, now is increasingly less conservative and, yes, it still obviously dominated by Republicans, but we're we're talking recently about the state of Texas being in play in it. In this place, getting a team on the field. This is not even a game, even if we have a team can we can win because premises are all wrong week. We can't aspire to win this at the federal level, because conservative doesn't believe them the all the major themes are supposed to be solved at the federal level. Conservative needs to plant flags in Peru the killer states take. ground. You can't have public universities in conservative states like the University of Texas that are just as liberal as anywhere else did. It does not work, it doesn't matter. If you have even have eighty

because the game is rigged and the out. miss heads, I went Ale Julius, no matter how you play it. So the only way to win the game is not to play never to play a different exacted change the baronet. Yes, I will come back to you Look at the state of play for conservative setting into two thousand and twenty one. Next on the glint back Programme continuing to take a look at the state of play politically heading into two thousand and twenty one, especially for those of us who call ourselves cancer. It's where the crew from the today show filling in four Glenn. Here today on the Glen Back Programme. That's Misty Base Errand Mcintyre TOT Arisen and for our round table conversation today we had to get a fair. A special ghastly, profit of woe and lamentation our colleague here at the blaze and conservative review Daniel Horwitz out but gentlemen. I wanted to start with kind

an elevator pitch questioning you get the temperature in the room amongst the three of you. Where are you guys all think we are as a move? Matt from a big picture perspective aright. So let's get granular now and deal with the issue of the moment that of our people are fixated on right this moment and wishes it out there. Let's addressed the elephant in the room Do you believe this election was stolen, and if you do, I mean as anybody to do anything about it. That would prevent Joe Biden from being sworn income January. Why, or why not. An air in this time of to start with you, when you take the idle, The election was stolen end just as an aside very quickly. I don't believe that there is some globalist conspiracy. Don't a tribute to conspiracy. What can be? plain by programming, meaning progressive, secular programming and

take away all of sea witness affidavits, take away the crag and take away dominion, voting theories and corporate structures, like you mentioned yesterday, Steve just look at the statistical anomalies in the income gap ruins of those statistical anomalies. Why at the same trend line in Milwaukee, an Philadelphia present in Saint Louis and doubtless our Houston, those types of things, and that is enough for me to say, at this stinks to high Heaven. So, yes, I believe the election was stolen and theirs. Are going to be anything done about it, because it's as we ve said multiple times on our own show the Steve Day show that this is not a nation of laws and it never has been it's a nation of will. A political will always will be, and I don't Think there's enough, at least amongst the people who are charged or have the ability to do something about it. There's not enough political

well because Orangemen bad MIKE and she's gonna save us on January. My tents will save us yet, just like you say, religious freedom in Indiana Nike saves the country from Debbie Burke's. No, actually he gave us Debbie works in the eye h model, but Todd waiting. How would you answer that question errands answer is as likely as anything else That being the case, the answer is no, nothing is going to happen, but I would simply say- and this is an idea- I dont know the nomes- how badly tromp did or did not get screwed? The case was in. It was incumbent upon him to make. Pace and, if anything I think, he's muddy the waters in and it could very sex. Others perhaps have clarified, but it was on him and his campaign to do so. We said from the beginning, and we set about other issues. We can't care about this more than him in the way gone about tat

to bring clarity. That is right. Other date, when you don't, you have three years like you did with Flynn, as you ve said see you here, you were on the clock and you had to be good at this out of the gate. And they have it and honestly the best, case scenario. May Aaron being right, but the butter in terms of into the first question conservatives, just getting screwed out of this in realising you can't keep playing this game, is conservatism, Republicans and think you're, not ultimately gonna get shafted where they demand on rules. Yes, I'd all the law, exactly on all the votes determine what a vote is name every term you can when a game like that is what you're saying yes Maybe this is the slap in the face everybody needs to start doing things differently. I'm not gonna hold my breath on that. But the way

we think has been going, and quite frankly, let's face it, though there are other reasons I dont know is: it's really is if binding one legitimately, no matter how close it was, he should be the present the United States. One thing: I definitely fears that there's, probably just as many people on the right is the left that care less about what reality is and they just want what they want although down a very ugly rabbit whole, if that's our body. That happens, though, when you're, when you're, in a schism as a people. Yes, when we, when I see It took us on the right many years to acknowledge that the had no issue or interest and sharing a country that the elements of the left have. No one Kristen sharing a country with us. Ok, that's when it accommodate us on an on any level now the right has more and more begun to understand this and figure that out, which is good. Ok, it's the truth. but it also presents its own challenges at how. Indeed, how do we then not have a zero sum game right? How do we avoid a schism contract? Is it

It appears were watching. You know, I've compare this to the Avignon Papacy on our daily show, appears you're watching a schism himself out in real time. and when, when both sides of skills, realize that they can't or dont want to live with one another anymore. Then Every shapes your view of the reality, as you just put it down you, what you think look mechanically as Erin said. Of course the election was stolen if you even discount any questions about dominion and electronic fraud. If you just look at the election law fraud, meaning the balance that work has not pursuant to law and then the prevailing mood fraud, which is kind of the middle ground and those are the dead voters, voting the non citizens voting, but based on what the Nevada Republican Party confirmed, Georgia, it's been confirmed, you just look at, can pack sins law suit. Fifteen twenty pages everyone focused on the stand:

issue, but he laid out just clearly just from the electricity attorney general from taxes can Paxton Hathaway Nag right. Yes, election law fraud. If you look at the margin of victories and you end up the anomalies in- can grow and sees the rejection rates of those. millions of extra male imbalance that weren't CAS pursuant to law, there is no question that, based on the laws duly passed by the fifty states, Donald Trump came out ahead. The question is by how much where, but it was clearly enough in my mind, but again I think is everyone saying the theme for today is what we are doing is not working, and we need to look beyond that because, frankly, everything's been rigged against us. This is the year of the covert data fraud and when the motorcycle des our covert death and the flu is this

here. I would, by the way you're constitutional rights had disappeared. The governing fraud is even greater than the election fraud. A lot of people say: hey Daniel. Do you really believe that they could have pulled off? Something like this? I say look at what they do John in broad daylight, having taken away our constitutional rights. Like you know, they don't hide this- that the mayor governor gets up there with the flicker, the wrist, hey, I'm holding a press conference at eight p m. Ten are here's the deal. No businesses faces covered indefinitely, shut up, here's what we're doing and to be that greater governing fraud and then even stealing an election and- and we have no problem with it. So that's the broader issue. This is emblematic of the systemic fraud in our governing system perfectly set the unto me going back to where I said to you tat. If, if you allow one side to pick, the rules change them on the fly then pick the officials

then get to determine who gets the ball and for how long, and they They get to do anything that can adjusted at any point in time. They want your brain camps. On Fox NEWS last night saying I had to follow the laws of Georgia, which laws Governor The lawyer legislature passed through the ones that the courts of justice are still doing me. We ve Stacy Abrams sister, making rulings in Georgia, as federal judge, as we speak right now. Ok, so which laws are we talking about the ones that the duly elected legislature past or the ones that you just in force that our court edicts, which laws? And so if those are the rules for us as conservatives. You know worse were seeking to conserve defined things. The wise if they ve not been defined as good or true that's point in conserving them right. We were conserving variables we're conserving Constance we're not weren't world, kinda conserve things, are sure

fide as true or fax, we can't win. Fits if the environment is who need jello on the door best environment. Is who's got the best amorphous blob and cries victim and racist better who play Who plays group identity politics better. We can't win those are all morally subjective, realities, contrary to what concern it is actually is which is an observation of science we have observed through history. This is what's good and true, let's rootlets repeat it, we ve observed through history. This is what's bad and faults. Let's not do that. We conservatism is when the other side is it what's good once bad depends what you definition, the word is, is what's about: what's a dropbox, what's a vote date, what's a postage stamp? What's a law? What's up this later. What's a branch constitution, what is it we? when the debate, and yet we

She playing by those rules, go ahead quickly, go ahead Daniel in thirty seconds quickly. Remember the debate over federalism in states get to do what they want and how does a Texas attorney general get to question again talk about that? One sided federalism heads they win tales. We lose you just mentioned federal judge in Georgia, saying you have to count dirty, odorless dead voters. You can't win a game like right. I mean we tried to change and cleanup election laws at state level. They threw all our of the court's through all our voter Idee laws, even constitutional members. They throw em out all right and so they get to do they get to impose on any form of federalism, their way that they would like when we try to push back on. It are corrected. We have two still abide by the rules of federalism that are no longer relevant. You cannot when this way it's an unwinnable game, that's the point we're trying to make more mnemonic back on that

that programme we are. The crew from this today day show noonday to Eastern when, after Glenn here on Blaze, tv, radio and pod, asked look as up d c E. My name is Todd Aaron here with us, one of my favorite guests, we had to bring a mania for talk in the state of play. Politically are golly, profit of woe and lamentation and colleague here at the place. Daniel Horwitz is here with us as well. Let's get to the next question to address, and it's probably for the best that asking this question its providence. They're gonna, ask it in the shortest segment of the hour, TAT is if there was ever a question that threatened our standing from an FCC perspective to let it for that to let it slip in fly, I this would be it so everybody's got itself. Eddic were limited in time. Ok, if the relationship between conservatives and the Republican Party were a face. status. What would that status be totters, I'm gonna be

because I want to get out of the way for Daniel, but I think it would be trumped conservatism. His is a term its easily been co, opt in. We ve had compassionate conservative, we ve had severely conservative neo conservatives have been used and abused and then the Republican Party, it simply for my favorite, I'm I'm I'm a fiscal conservative for Saddam in Gomorrah. Exactly a week, the Republic and Party has clearly had a record of simply using in abusing conservatives were issues that have nothing to do with propagating those values so Intel. We see differently. It determines trumped cheek. He owned the Republican Party for the last four years he eat you. We had options as conservatives, namely TED crews. Four years ago we chose Donald Trump instead, so until we see something different, it is trumped Erin, I think.

For me it's in an open relationships, because, once or I should say I once every seven hundred thirty days there able the rattle there's at border meaning mode. Establishment, Republicans and you know what they get. What they want from us are the rest of the time, though there there see and other people, and they just actually I don't want anything to do with us. I'm just Laura booty call we're just a booty called once every seven out in thirty days, whether its mid term or a presidential election I call on us. We give them what they want and then they move on. Rest the time their hanging out on K Street you never minded wash in DC by the way. Folks, that's a literal street where the lobby- Sperms are located, as it's literally called K straight, the rest of time hanging out on K, street media, and you know that they can't sleep three: a dot m, that's Alexa they call us up? Miss Eyre what you don't right. That's all we are where the vertical Daniel, what is it, what we gotta keep a clean, so I come home start home abused. Look, I mean,

Aaron already hinted to this is an abuse, the wife and that's what it is it that's. What has always been. I dont think its change, much with trumpet, some wrinkles over the last four years, but it's basically been this waste- Reagan and really before Reagan as well. It just the consequences have gotten worse, isn't abused spouse. Where we know they are cheating on us, their cheating on us, while they promised us more flowers, but we are just too scared to go out, and world alone. We are convinced. We can't go it alone. We cannot live without the Republican Party. I grew up in a home that had some of the abuse that you're talking about, and I mean I've- I you know When I got old enough to understand what was going on as a teenager young at all You know my mom and I would like have conversations we like we ve been take turns like my mom. Would be like we gotta leave and I'd be like Onawandah go right. This is my

the sports team, I, like my high school, which doesn't exist anymore, Wyoming Rogers, I got friends, I dont want to run you know, and then like it would happen again and then the next time we just websites and I'd be like art, mom. We ve got to get out of here and she's like getting a job at the meditation I mean, I know exactly what you're describing Daniel. I live this in my home, an end there this fear, though, that whatever out. There is actually worse than what you are experiencing suggest. Keep tolerating it Eventually, you pushed to the point that you can't tolerated anymore and you, Leave not because you took a stand, but its survival or nothing, and then then you start thinking yourself, man, really wish it had done this along time ago, I'm ok, I can breathe the free air again that I think, is kind of a rat What teams Ethiopia, where one hour down to our to go. The state of play for conservatives heading into two thousand and twenty one will contain that next year on the Glinda programme,

well. My name is today's filling in four Glenn back here this morning, and this is not my first rodeo with the conservatives and our complicated relationship with the Republican Party show I've. I've done this programme a few times feed ten thousand times over the years so given where we just left off. I already know your limit where we expect us to do you're all like Richard Gear and officer and a gentleman I got nowhere else to go right. I want to address that next green book programme. I back here that programme the crew here from this today show noonday to Eastern when, after Glenn here on Blaze, TB each broadcast day, that's misty, Dace Totters, an errand Mcintyre. We have a special guest with us today for our round table. Conversation on the state of conservatism and Paul

tick setting into twenty twenty one. He is our prophet of woe and lamentation around here at the blaze our colleague Daniel our wits joins us. and before we move on to the next question, I want I think we have a loop we have to close and the question we posed right before the end of the last hour, because I, Oh a lot of you that are listening today. How you feel is this: republican Party. If I do vote Republican. I will drown and yet if I do vote Republican, no one will save me from drowning I'm treading water right sadly out here in the open sea and there, nobody coming to save me, but if I dont vote Republican and let the other guys when I'm going to drown, and so what? What you want me to do. How do you spare me to behave.

And again, given the environment? I grew up in a times I completely and totally understand this sentiment. I spent years and years of my career working within the Republican Party, I recruited candidates. I helped several get elected and over the course of time, I learnt that the only party hates people like me more than the Democrats are the Republicans they feel like they have to at least fame catering to people like us when they really liked it most of em to be up. There pillage and plundering the countryside for their groups of special interests, every this much is the Democrats do, and they really don't want to get involved in any of these culture war issues, because they don't care and if they do, I don't care, or most of them actually agree with Democrats more than us any yet. then the two thousand and eighteen may terms. I did something I'd not done in over a decade, but it great ticket republican.

I darn your did the exact same thing in two thousand and twenty now Why did I do that? Because Take me some time and I think I might finally disdain and load the Republican Party even more than a disdains and loves me but I am also not stupid. I denies the Visigoths are coming over the wall. So, while I dont think the Republicans, are the centurions becoming to save us. I'm happy, it just throw their carcasses between me and them to give me some time. To figure out what is it, what else can we possibly do see? I think The problem we have here is we're not nimble as conservatives that we have, we have. Courted ourselves with a bow every choice for a long time. It didn't exist, but we so quartered ourselves with it that we created a self.

killing prophecy that now it kind of does Now it is, it wasn't true. Twenty years ago it wasn't your ten years ago, the Republican or at the end of America. Yet guys did we hear this all of our lives. We heard this all of our lives right, but it was you George W Bush. You launched the dumbest foreign policy decision of all time. They war in Iraq. It was it was George W Bush. You gave us many care de, the biggest welfare state boondoggle until the Obama administration. It was Mitt Romney who gay Brok Obama his worst idea before he had it, Romney care right you go on and on and on how it was a republican majority court. They gave us Roby Wade, republican Majority court they gave us Windsor we could go on and on right now, so this This is true for a long time. It was a lie that we told ourselves and we in and frankly alot of people and conservative media were prostitutes for teams. Ethiopia got paid to say.

The problem is, though, we bought it so for almost religiously dogmatic. it became a creed will now at the point that it actually kind of his true like there That means the Democrats are really just gotta play out the musical reds every time you like them, no matter where you elect him doesn't matter where there's a matter where there I mean there there there dancing to Moscow in a better way elected that that's all the opener, now we're kind of like oh bleep, I don't want the republic is to win, and I can't afford for the Democrats to what do I do. We have to we have to get outside of our binary Box here number one. You- have to exert politics, a game of leverage. Republicans may not think that much differently than Democrats. Sadly, in all too many cases, but they're not gonna, get a lot of democratic votes, no matter how close they come to their thinking either, which means tat

like did, who do they need Democrats devote forms outta. They need us in any relationship in any relationship. The power resides in the party that has to give its consent. Ultimately, that's where the power resides in, whoever is the consenting party, where the power resides in that relationship. Who is that setting authority in this in this relationship between us and the Republican Party. We are. We have to vote for that correct down And so therefore, if we're the consenting authority, where does the power reside with us? Instead, you we dont yeah. We instead what we have done it it decided that, because the Democrats are Marxists, must mean my completely emasculated limp rested low t level corporate price

statute? Republican must now suddenly be Moses or he's he's captain America George Washington crossed the pudding. that the Delaware on his way to two coming that you know to, but my lions Club meeting in speaking for fifteen minutes and then ejecting because he was busy or something we ve had the power of alarm. Do you want to know? I've talked about this before, but never on, show price two? When a lot of you got to know who I was, and I was an up and coming plucky conservative commentator was contributing I Msnbc as a token conservative probably did over fifty panels on MSNBC over several years, and it is interesting them One issue we debated every issue on these panels while they debated, may basically The one issue, though I don't ever remember us debating,

They never were fretting whether the more moderate Democrat was going to win the primary or whether the the pro life Democrat might win, and could they still support them in the general they didn't even care when agreement talked about democratic primaries, was a presidential race didn't care why because whether you elected democratically, U S set it Senate in Louisiana our guarantee in Louisiana or you, liked him in Tommy, for They're all vote in this ain't. It doesn't matter it doesn't matter why, because their base made it so Their base made it that this is unacceptable. This is we want, and you will give us what we want or we will take you out we don't do that. We ve turn these Republicans in the matinee idols. You know we ve got like our local congressman's rookie card in the spokes of our bike and we're like trading and with our bodies. Hey man, I'll give you a TIM Scott rookie. If I get like a re, Linford all stark art, that's what we do.

We turn these guys in the heroes and the damage Braddock Party, they are instruments servants, and they come in. They go Hobbs and they come in. They go they go based on whether you do what we say become based on whether you do what we say we do. Do this we have given the Republican Party frankly, more grace and allegiance than we ve, given the vast majority of our churches, and play our own families- we have excused away rib, behavior and betrayal, from people with the magic are, after the name, anyone that primary Abraham and if it was bestowed upon him the magic are and therefore it was credited to him righteousness. We have it taken stuff from grown. Ass. Adults lies right to our face because they, the hour after their name, we wouldn't take from our own young children. This is why were in the predicament that we are in, we have been willing to take it and if If you want to know a poet. A party is only as good as the people than inhabited.

We need a one hour is stop running for platform committee. No who cares nobody is disregarded, run for the rules committee, whose making the rules that were room where the power is at dawn? First date, legislator and then stay there run for speaker of the state House. Take power, That's what the democratic base has done, why they are the power in the Democratic party. We have then that within the Republican Party and that's why are powerless more in a moment, I mentioned this earlier. Let me talk about this again. Really quick. I mean we had. We had a fun show yesterday by looking at things from a meta level, philosophically morally spiritually theologically dad used up to my books, Nefarious Carolina, nefarious plot,

to kind of b the launching pad for those conversations we had huge response to those shows and huge response to those two bucks. So one to say thank you to all of you very much doing your part to make sure that the the three days. Children do indeed get a Christian, next year, so you can still get your copies as we speak right now over an amazon dot com into various Carolina nefarious plot. But let's continue on talking politics, showy with the round. will question. Thank you guys for indulging me for a few minutes there. I just felt, like we had a kind of clothes that loop almost it is our corner. a portion of the audience in the corner of my ear prose, lasting. What else is the alternative, then we're right they sock, but when are we supposed to do right, so ask it next question and Daniel What's our prophet of warring limitation or start with you? What's that just issue or issues you believe facing conservatives and twenty twenty one so Steve this time.

Last year, had you asked me that question I would have given you the traditional litany of issues, but I don't think it's an exaggeration at this juncture in history to say we are repeating August first, one thousand seven hundred and seventy six couple weeks after SAM Adams and Self signed the declaration of independence. He spoke before Sylvania Legislature, Philly, and he said our contest is not only whether we ourselves shall be free, but whether there I'll be left to mankind in asylum On earth for civil and religious liberty, that's what is facing us in twenty twenty one. I mean whether we could walk around with.

Out a chinese diaper on our noses mouth, whether business owners could not go to jail simply for earning a living. I mean these are serious things that I think I think we ve only almost become desensitized. We ve forgotten about it. That is the contest it fascism to put a specific issue title on it and it's also mixed with anarchy its throat. You issues it ain't, Argo tyranny, tyranny, the story of twenty twenty. Was this two justice justice system that if your a lemon t far, if you're a violent gangster with a rap sheet, you get let out of jail. You don't get prosecuted,

get locked up, but if you're a business owner a single mom in Minnesota, opening up a business, her gymnastics class in her her restaurant, you get threatened with jail time and, in fact, the very virus that was used as a pretext to empty the jails by forty fifty percent in most cities Is now being used as an excuse to put you and I in those jails, this is the Hutton exaggerate. Hey man, if you're a mess, it too putting a gun at a pregnant woman stomach and you got murdered by a cop. You can have seventy five funerals, our national tv all over the country, but if those people we laid out of those prison cells? Are you talked about Daniel? if they murdered your love, one you can't have a funeral for them- is that the two tier system, you're talkin about that had a thing Orpheus run over.

Our boy in Washington DC you don't get prosecuted. But if you defend yourself you you do get prosecuted, I mean this is serious: stuff life, liberty, property and speaking the same Adams. He always said, and the car the colonists have the right to defend themselves, because otherwise you don't have those aforementioned three rights that is what's on the table. Corona fascism is It's for dinner and Steve. I just wanna piggy back off your seminal opening monologue there. This is our contest. It's gonna, be in the states mainly not now the federal level, and it's going to be this way. begins control, twenty four trifecta, really, twenty five. If you include Kentucky because there are public and legislature could override everything the governor does, they have thirty one legislative bodies they control? The question is the UK. This is not binding.

This is not policy. There are some states where there is literally two or three Democrats left in the legislature. I'm not kidding you yet. The governors in those states sound like Cuomo and gave a Newsome on current a virus that STAR question: it's not a matter of Daniel. I don't want the Democrats win. Democrats are winning there in Ohio, Republicans have Brenda majorities been Democrats have in California yet to wine. Is it just as bad is, is Cuomo Doin is: are we going to get on their cases? Are we going to primary them? Are we going to take to the streets? Are we going to get the legislatures remove the emergency powers. That is the specific context of our time. I didn't mention Washington D C same question you Daniel it's it's just dopey. The can revolution. Quite frankly, is forfeit,

it's a reclamation ever we're not lit we're living in a place in Spain and on soil called America. But it's not America anymore, and it hasn't been for quite some time that the Republic of Rome fell and hey. It's kind of cool and you feed him for a while as long as we get our tv, as you know, we're role and were Roland, but here we have an now or in the time of colleague yellow. we don't know what a gender is. The constitution is something that is is used against us, because we have this warm fuzzy feeling of this contract. But it's where the? Where are the consequences? You abide by clauses of it? They don't actually exist while we do whatever we want to the clauses that do absolutely where, the consequences for anyone from the press. The F b, I mean the FBI, my God, there is basically staffed by the same people that run journal regionally without out yesterday that the Nashville bombers Girlfriend told him last year that

This concern he was making bombs in the basement. Maybe she should have said hey. I think my boyfriend has a garage door, rope shaped as a noose. Can you guys do something about it, and we know fifteen FBI agents what it would have move down at property. Stat right, we'll know this. Isn't it to stop here when the Democrats once again are coming back and begging for the protection of the constitution instead of ignoring them in doing whatever they want? I mean a change this just slightly the biggest issue facing the can our objective in twenty twenty one, because there's a number of issues I mean big big time issues. You could go via a mandatory vaccines, vague tec to any number of issues, but Conservative when you look in the mirror? What's the biggest issue facing you, what Are you willing to do. What are you willing to do about it? the biggest issue it could be.

Simple, as I'm gonna go to the drug store or I'm going to go to to shop somewhere, I'm not going to wear mask from this day forward, I'm just not, or it could be if your business owner, not abiding by these regulations and if they try to find me, I'm strown it in the trash. if your past or you should have already had your church, opened up by four for months now, multiple. you should never closed down, for maybe in the first two three weeks Are you willing to deal? That's the biggest issue facing a conservative and in twenty twenty one. all of your answers, are really good. You guys you, we might have a future doing this for a living. I know, one of the largest radio shows the history of the industry, probably isn't the greatest placed at like

We get on the job training, but you know it's the holidays in their desperate for help right, but in the future you guys you three might you guys might be able to do this like have your own gigs and stuff thanks boss, when we come back, what happens if Trump does leave office on January? The twentieth, where does he go next- will discuss that when we come back next, back you're feeling and on a Glenn Beck Programme, we are the crew from this day, show noon to to eastern broadcasting humblest tv right after Glenn. You can also subscribe to the podcast going to check this out we're off right now, but he wanted I can listen to some of the things you ve missed. Have you never heard us before? Just like Steve Dace D, C e on Itunes Sticker Spotify Amazon, etc. My daily partners are here with me: Erin Mcintyre, totters and in one of our favorites he's our colleague here at the blaze. Daniel Horwitz is here with us as well we're going to do in a round table big picture conversation about the state of play for conservatives heading into two thousand and twenty one

question I wanted to tackle gentlemen of Trump does indeed leave office on January, the twentieth and Joe Biden sworn in as it appears right now. That's going to and barring some kind of a miracle. How will the former president, then former President diatribe Powell, he continued to impact the conservative movement, conservative, media and then, how would you like him, too,. I'll start with you this time. Well, the influence is gonna, be massive, because what we're gonna be viewing at least a mountaineer term is the great martyrdom of Donald Trump Naive Located relationship with him before when he twenty full disclosure. no plans on voting for him, I just eat, even with the but he did bring to the table a populist flare that I think is important to follow through on. I just didn't he was that great at his job. And then twenty twenty came and

all in all to stop you from the left me this I've gotta go with this guy, and I do so unapologetically and I I say that in the last four years, even though, when I think he'd into his job well, he has been treated as unfairly as any american president in history. He eats he's, not Hitler. He was a democratic. Most of his life he's not suddenly erases to want to takes all your rights away and by the way, then he goes often gulfs and you complain that he's just golfing and are going to work being a tyrant, it's just all very, very stupid, so we ve got the great Martin that he's going to capitalize on and what that's going to continue to do is its good. The left is gonna, be obsessed with it when conservatives and people of the writer going to be. This is awesome, so we've seen this before in many ways, but I wish would happen if that's going to be good some days, it's going to be bad some days. What I wish would happen is that he just go away because

the good things that he brought to the table? Somebody needs to fill the vacuum and we may as well get on with who that somebody is and how good? They can be added errand I think that the most natural thing here for Trump is waging his own. Let's just face it, you don't get to where B, where he is right now without having some need for attention and being asked questions and unjust, just again getting a lot of attention. So I think the most natural path for Trump is to partner or start his own media network to try to destroy Fox nears, because there is a lot of bad blood there at least post election. I think that would be the most natural path, because killing two birds with one stone. It be getting all the attention that he would like to have from the media from his own media outlets and then he'd be destroying Fox news. I think that would be,

overall a good thing because for so many years that network has been the gate keeper of Conservatives of republican politics in this country, if you can't get on Fox NEWS, you you're gonna, have a really tough time in a row looking primary anywhere, so I think The most natural path for him is is going on to some media venture and trying to Straw Fox news. Now, how would I like him to impacts the conservative movement or media? Well, destroying Fox news would be a good thing for me would be a good start. Of course. Nature applause, a vacuum. So whatever venture that would be, would, I think, could take the place of kingmaker, where you have to go kiss transferring instead of the murder arts side. I think I I think I would like that. The most likely or conceivable way for him to impact Can the conservative movement is to do he can disrupt the river

working party and or destroy certain factions or the whole thing of the Republican Party, that would be what I would like him to do. Will we be able to do that? Maybe with isn't a media venture, he might be able to be powerful enough to do so, of course, is Mentioned before he is a martyr in the eyes of upwards of seventy million Americans, so He is de facto presidency is de facto speaker I read sedative for seventy million Americans. I think Mitt Romney's of the world. I think the rhinos of the world, dont really understand or realise that they're going to have to reckon with that for for the foreseeable future. They dont realisation probably more dangerous to them in the general population, and he is sitting at sixteen and millions of inhabitants. They think that him just leaving means he's leaving. No, oh, no big is sitting in their those. We just saw again this week.

The pressure to get a deal done sitting in that see right in the White House, but just sitting on his twitter account or whatever platform he creates for himself his The pressure to get any deal done anything just call. all, of the deal's they're trying to get done and expose them to a lot more sunlight in the otherwise? What right, Nightsy, I think, he's far more dangerous to the republican establishment sitting. in the general population than he is inside the White House but Daniel. What do you think this future. Thus here so it's the first time I mean, I think, errands right. As far as the alternative to Fox news. There's no question thinking about that. I would add that there is a parallel social media online- that I think he will blow up their its blowing up parlour and good way? I mean you, know, patronising it and becoming a leader there or another platform he will do. simply because he's gonna get kicked off twitter and that

primary mode of communicating many will be alone. We are all getting kicked off, such as. There is no question that question how many days after January, twenty all take them to suspend his account. That's gonna happen. What would I like him to do? Oh my gosh, I mean Steve. You talk about the binary choice, this this just impasse that we ve been out for for decades with what do this man could single handedly change at now? Look there's no short cut to properly building that boy scout fire with having people. At a county level dealing with conservative politics in the right way, stirring in removing republicans starting bottom up until eventually, we reach a federal level, but this man like you mention could up and the Republican Party he could be more powerful than he was his present. He could be more powerful, and

Joe Biden. If I had one audience with him, I would say primaries baby now, your time to redeem deem yourself. Look. I've been through this for about twelve years and it is impossible to win primaries. We don't have money. We don't have name recognition, even though eighty to ninety percent, party agrees with us like we see what trump you know. Ninety five percent, the Republicans, our four tromp there is no constituency for bill. restore or these these rhinos, but they win by default because have the money, the name I d, they put out lying ads, they control the party. It's all haunted, it's all it's all fake and we can't get the big names on board with the primary. If this man were to go to Morrow. Ok, let's start with Ohio, a trending red state trump that state he remade Ohio, super majorities. The legislature trillion enjoying higher would Obama D D Virginia. Basically turn it from a swing state into a state that

definitely tilts to one side. Now, yes, a exactly that's what he did to it. He could go or about. I would start with the governors every lockdown governor there is about ten republican governors who support locked down are up for reelection or they're gonna be open seats if he were to go in and promise that he would support and hold rallies within. You would get better recruitment Warren Davidson could run in Ohio. He could we make republican Party, we could win ten governor ships, scented seeds. That is something we can never do, have never done, and is something he he can do. Willie do it. I don't know, but someone's gotta get in his ear what you guys have just laid out and quantified it with your experience. Well despite the specifics, what he could do to terrorize this system

there is far more power in that long term than frankly. There probably even is in another term in the White House, given how that would end the political paradigm, We will discuss this more here in a moment I guess I want to follow up on out of the White House and twenty twenty one and. what kind of an impact he could have as we continue our roundtable conversation here, STI days with tighter, Erin Mcintyre Profit of woe in Layman's day or which we all work together here with Glenn Apple s ablaze and blaze, TV, in fact where the show noonday to Eastern after Glenn each day here someplace tv, the eye the idea of him starting a platform mad to compete or to go after Fox nurse. in doing so. Maybe you know the answer to this question if indeed he wants, to play the role of kingmaker

or is considering running again and twenty twenty four or, at the very least, wants to leave that option open. Can you do that? network? Do you run into any legalities there? Thank you leave. Your name is Donald Trump in there just lookin to come after right. Ok, so is that a situation where he he play in of those ponds. We all knew what Roger Rails was doing for years at Fox right now, I'm forget be on the cruise campaign. As we watched, we have the most votes in Iowa any candidate ever received, and the next day Rodger Ailes is the preferred dead, Dimple faced boy with Marco Rubio, all the rage on Fox news all day, long for the greatest third place when she has member that I do the greatest third place finish in history. The nine realms. Ok, I'm we all knew it. Roger rails was doing for years on Fox, but it wasn't it. a kind of unknown secret right like your favorite com,

Which sports website knows whose getting the recruits? Because the coaches are telling them? They just can't openly say that it's an insane violation, but we all know where they get their information from right. In this case to everybody knows who Donald Trump is she's, not of you know the Charlie's angels Voice on this than this beaker phone, whose faces never seen Daniel. Could he blatantly do both of those things at the same time with with are there obstacles to that right I mean hey. but he we hear at the place. We have been hesitant about having our people endorse, candidates or the website. I do it because of these sorts of things, and we ll have nearly the target on our back that Donald J Trump does. What are your thoughts on that data? does it have to be either warm he's got time on his side, I mean that that's the bottom line, typically, as you well know, from your experience in Iowa. The next presidential

action starts the day after the previous one, except for him he's got time. He's got a hundred and fifty percent name, I D and ninety five percent love among the GNP bays he's got plenty a time he doesn't have to sit and star campaigning and making traditional towards Taiwan. Nor will he, nor does he need to what he needs to do, is establish that national brand, already has in terms of being a disruptor outside of the oval office. So I think he has plenty of time to get that started up and then once he Does that lets say out or no twenty twenty three he could easily step away from made in the same way he stepped away from his business ventures to become president. I don't think that's really to be a problem so, if, let's say, there's a Trump tv or there is from a news max kind of a partnership, so to speak, Could he go out there in the twenty twenty two campaign

and openly advocate in primaries for candidates with that sort of a media venture in place. Could he do that? Do you know the answer to that Daniel? I don't I don't see. Why not I'm? I don't know- I literally don't see why not. because his name's dotterine stronger, nay, they tried to frame for repeating that doesn't exist and russian collusion for several years and then I tried to impeach him over a twenty seven minute phone call to Ukraine that I they turn out to be even if he's guilty of what these was accused of? At the time I turn, to be an expedition in search of nefarious by an activity that appears to have actually happened. That's why he asked legally hit that yet begets about extra, like only if extra legally guinea do an extra legally. Could you do it? Why are legally? I don't even want to know what comes down that take for all of us over the next year or two. What about talent Could you see him take a hannity or to meet

good Karlsson is what's holding Fox NEWS together at this point I so could he could he price I am a canopy. He could absolutely pry away, but I don't think that's nearly the coup de prying Tucker Karlsson away would be. Could he do that domestic? No! but I could see him doing something like making Kelly going to work for him. when that. These are not remember the very first remarks debate when she was them that the attack dog they him her increase Wallace. The mission was to take him out. I remember that debate right and it was after that that he talked about her bleeding out of her whenever right, that would be the ultimate trompe. A move is a good friend of mine who works in the White House to make just the other day the The thing that Donald Trump MIKE's more than people who are always with them, are people who are now a them and previously worked, the idea of a new Trump tv venture and Megan Kelly is the set. Is the eight o clock eastern anchor?

that is a uniquely frumpy and move into me. This is the crucial thing. Let's face it, he did not get all the best. People like you misty would who is present here, needs to get all the best people to make this work that I and I dont think it is for him to go, and I think it is more for him to a kind of co opt something it already exist. News backs that way. He can kind of polar well, if it doesnt work are well, it was their fault somewhere. Christopher Ruddy is listing this and say: hey guys. I Preacher guys playing live honesty the advertising or fantasy media manager with with my property here, but thank you can plus he's not buying green bananas. Man he's seventy four years old right. Yeah already and trumpet been friends for many years, but maybe that's why Reddy's like that's? Why I dont want to do because I know what happens if we bring him in. I will continue our conversation looking at the state of play Four conservatives heading in two two thousand and twenty one, a few questions left for us to tackle in our final, our coming up

so fresh off, yet another of the most important elections of our lifetimes. This when actually felt like it might have been the closest to that being through than I can recall, but any area. Fifty seven days it still in the court's stated. Georgia has a hearing going on right now about voter fraud allegations as we speak. Speaking of Georgia. We're gonna go from the most important presidential election of our lifetimes too. Now. What we're being called is the most important Senate run off election of our Lives will discuss that here. Next stomach went back programme. Is the back programme bag with our final. Our here today feeling in on the Glen Beg Programme, we are the crew from this debate. Show that would be me. I see days totters in Erin Mcintyre me that a special guest with us, whose our colleague, here

the blaze and conservative review Daniel Horowitz? We ve been talking about this state of play for conservatives an conservatism heading into two thousand and twenty one and of course there's a lot of attention right now, gentlemen, and that's where we're gonna go next, is on the Georgia Senate run off. Georgia's having yet another hearing in the legislature today, as we speak about, voter fraud allegations in the state, the Governor Brian Camp, who has had I guess we would call it a combustible relationship with with wood, Donald Trump. The sheer, although it's been more like Jeff Sessions and Donald Trump, where Trump is constantly on the attack and the other guys like hey. I really support him. I don't know why he's mad at me, but that was what temp was saying earlier this year, that the president was wrong to go after Brian Kemp when he was trying to reopen estate. I was

ensconced on Brian camps side, because that's where the data is- and I go we're data goes this time. I, I definitely lean more trump on this one, because again I go or the data goes and on a the data out of his stake. They don't trust, Democrats and Fulton County Georgia, but that just makes me a trader or something right or stupid, or a moron right, apparently butts the Georgia Senate run off is a week from yesterday. Control in the? U S: Senate hang. in the ballots yeah David, Purdue, Kelly, lawful or to incumbents, trying to hold off to Democrats with the exam same ballot, harvesting mail in voting system- I bet that we had in the presidential election in place here the early voting numbers in terms of totals of turn out, are in our just off the change. I mean the numbers are sky high. So what talk about this run off and Daniel I'll start with you. How does outcome whatever

this change the political landscape next year. Either way, would you think so far off with the math if democratic ninety two to a majority in the Senate and two seats, are at stake and how much does it make a difference? And I think that's really the questioner. now let me just start up later. Ninety two eight majority, it I mean I was tired. By saying there's a conservatives in the Senate, the really are and bullets just call it a look. Look at the legislation we just had last week. Every major legislation that is past is passed with super majorities nay me that a number of Republicans in the Senate that share a modicum of republican values on issues of our time. How many Republican The Senate oppose lock. Media somewhere in the single did yet better. So I mean it is an hour, hopefully not the lower single digits, but that's where it is. So that's what I mean by it now. Let me just say the word

wrinkle. I think the one major effect Democrats flipping those seats would have is in the following sense: if Democrats win It will make Cavanaugh even more reluctant to rule properly on cases in front of him because he will fall you're, the democratic, at least their thread of packing the court's, whereas I think with out those votes without winnings those seeds, they won't have the ability to do that. But as far as every other issue, I want to make it very clear to your audience. If there's one thing you get for me today, it's this. We don't lie in the old paradigm, where you mechanically pass a bill. Say: oh, I wanna instituted

the green deal. I want to institute abolish ice here goes through the house. We have some committee hearings, we have a mark up, we vote, then we go to the Senate and do the same and it goes the present for signature or at state level with the governor. That's not how it works they implement theirs Executive Lee the implemented through the courts and now the implemented through the streets and the culture like we saw with be alone and we have more crime and more prison releases ever this year and almost none of that was passed legislatively it's done on the streets. It's done with out a vote, so it does it matter that we are never going to pass abolish eyes. cause. It's stupid for them, they'll get the liability and the blow back from the electorate. You know what they do: they're not gonna, take away. Ices

salary, Noiselessness, shuddered, building Obama era levels. They just do it that way or or were they take away your purview? You cain't deport anyone you're, not gonna. Past the new green deal there just going to have a debate. we have Interior say you need to do lions in order do racking, which is ostensibly never doing it. That's what they're going to do and Republicans never going to use that fifty one Rhino Majority in the Senate to go and force a budget bad over those issues because they, do it when they had all three branches are too so there, certainly not going to do with one that is the realities I just wanna people understand mechanically what I mean when I say it doesn't make a difference who Winslow sentences. here's where I largely agree with your analysis. Miller is, I do not totally agree with it because I'm already hyper cynical,

I'm afraid of what would happen to me. If I allow myself to go from nine point, seven five did attend that you act okay, so that's my own self defence mechanism, but is where I do think it matters. Don't you think the outcome next Tuesday Validates or verifies one way or the other presidential voter fraud claims. I mean if, yes, if, if Trump, if the two Republicans window seat, Then doesn't get hurt the cause that those of us that are saying, hey, look at the anomalies and does actually bolster the cause of some of our friends, your conservative and don't think there's voter frog is distinctive Trump, uniquely drove out a vote opposed to him because is persona, doesn't it help their cause? Anecdotally, at least case, on the other hand, the if, if that, if they do that but they do it again. Doesn't it point

to what we are saying soon, I'm trying to say Daniel doesn't doesn't the outcome one way or the other provide some anecdotal confirmation about the dueling narratives of this presidential election? Absolutely because the biggest exculpatory claim against the voter fraud, is to say, know the reason why Republicans never lost a single how seed, despite losing the presidential election, is just this large dichotomy between suburbia white voters around big natural areas, like you, know, Fulton County their attitude towards Trump verses, their desire that Democrats in general don't win because they don't agree crash because there too radical. I think I think that will really shed a lot of light on an absolutely emerald regrets that, therefore, on the other hand, feel pressured to run the exact if we're right that they ballot harvested in accounting like Fulton County, don't they

feel pressure. Therefore, then, to run that exact scheme back in the Senate run off. Otherwise it is a kind of its pointed out that the other way two? Doesn't it right? They kind of two, don't they don't Democrats have to do it again? What looks like this already done like it dearly voting numbers. I just think that an angle to this? That's probably not been discussed enough. Because there's so much talk about the focus on the power goes to the Senate or not and yet it is less than a week from now Democrats, could have total control in Washington. But man I know and you and I agree they will pursue that, regardless of what their margins are with reckless abandoned, but you, Don't have to alienate too many people to get a massive come up it's in the next election, when you have the smallest. That would be the smallest house majority in eighty years. Potentially fifty fifty Senator Kamel how calmly Harris's breaking

a tie with and then a presidential election, where seventy five million people feel like they got disenfranchised. I mean the level of backlash that you could face with those kinds of scant majorities in the way you govern in the next election. Could be monumental. That will talk about that in the future. taught in here and I'm gonna get- you has taken this and in the Georgia Centre run off when we come back, the Georgia Senate run off. How does that result? Next, Tuesday change the paradigm, the land when, where the other. I am really tracking with Daniel. In his answer, because I was actually going to say you know you really have to have fifties. I think ninety two eight really you gotta have ninety two republican senators to AIDS to really make friends so I'm track. with them, because I know I want this to sound.

Nihilistic at all- it's, my goodness, is proceeding. Yes, my goodness, it really doesn't matter at the end of the day, because I'd like to to introduce you to Obama's pennoned phone. And willing bureaucracy and Let's call it a deep state who willingly carries out the edicts, unless maybe by some chance they go to the Supreme Court Rural, where John Roberts will once again change the definition of words are? Ok that that's that that's, how this game is played? There's no doubt as as mentioned in the previous segment, that really matter, They have if Democrats have control of either chamber of of Congress. Now what helps Greece? the skids of where they want to take the country? That's that's for sure, but it At the end of the day, it really doesn't matter because they're going to do it by hook or by crook, so

really dont think it changes the political landscape by all means, though I'm in its. If you want to see gridlock, if you want that chance to see gridlock which it sickly what this is a vote by all. This vote, but but it's not really going to change the landscape. All that much has no meaning a chance to slow things down by changing the landscape, not not so much I chuckled yesterday when when buying was complaining, he wasn't getting the proper. Foreign policy and defence department briefings for presidential transition, so he's basically behind the ape all from an information standpoint. I'm like come on cause based on what we have been watching unseen and for the last four years it looks the Biden campaign in the this the Pentagon in the State Department it looks like the intelligence community it links to us like they ve, actually been white cozy and friendly. Informing one another on a nightly basis. In fact, I told your answer.

well. We all know it's true as much as it hurts but, like I said the best case scenario to what I want is reality, even if it hurts and I said earlier. The best case for this selection is to have it actually be sole stolen for us to know it into wake up and realize why and what we need to be do differently, I mean it was stolen in Georgia of all places. Georgia Somethin's off the rails, and if that means also the Senate needs to be lost because right now, even in the face of everything we seen and twenty twenty Stephen, I talk about this all the time. People can't wait for twenty twenty one. It's gonna be better. It's got a return to normal were better than this. We can now we're not we're not better than this. It's not gonna returned no normal it it's gonna, be. Just as bad, if not worse, that's the smart money and whatever it takes three to wake up to. That fact is quite frankly what we need. Final question that we are to tackle here today before Willa Daniel, go back

She is this if you could give a national addressed to conservatives. What would you say? and Daniel Gonna. Let you go first and and and take the time within reason that you need help You have, what would you say, The conservatives nationwide. You got a pretty good sized audience of conservatives right now. Obviously, here in a hollow famers, program, but if you could immediately we're all tuned in what would you be telling him? Oh look and thanks for the opportunity and thank you Glenn as well it's time we looking inwards, take a look at the twenty four to thirty states, where republicans control everything, often with Superman these. There is no one to blame. You can't say: oh my gosh, we can have the Democrats win, we might have socialism we haven't hawking county Ohio, a Red county within a red state, Trump carried by fifty two point margin. Seventy two to twenty and Eve

a woman was whisked away at a middle school football game outdoors and teased for not wearing a mask in Idaho, a church sing an outdoor event. He was arrested are doing is not working. Are we going to spend? and the rest of our lives. Doubling down on failure. I mean the Republican Party has existed in defiance of its being since Reagan. That's a long. For a period of time, an entire shelf life of the Whig Party, hey Guy one six. You have so much and you bring a little you eat without being satiated you drink without getting your fill you duress and it has no warmth and you profits profits into a bundle with holes. Now. What does it say after that? so said. The Lord consider your ways: ascend the mountain, bring wood and build the house, and I will accept then I'll be honoured, said the Lord it's time

actually build? That would like a boy scout from bottom up in a format of movement that we can be proud of start in the trunk plus fifteen's counties within the red states. Right now we have fifty blue states, so it start there were people onto it. If we agree with us start pressuring the sheriff the school officials, the county commissioners, the county judges. This is where it always get involved in those primaries, then go to stay legit turn governor and what's gonna happen is one of two things: either we will finally take over the Republican Party, or it will reach a point? if no return- where we will now have a strong enough infrastructure movement too easily start a third party which become that second party and collapse the other side. But time is of the essence.

And we have to act now. You know why, because this yes Louis warned those who torment us for our own good while torment us without end, for they do. So with the approval of their own consciousness and that's what they're doing with current fascism, it will not. and unless we make it end and that's gonna happen at a local level, when you say Daniel. There any red states. What do you mean by that? I mean that there is no state that Republicans have control of everything in the governance not just related to If we care about fifty years ago, but even relating to the most pressing issues of our time like letting criminal at a jail and lock up Americans and Corona fascism, we don't have a single state,

That is nearly as red as California is blue, or even a fractions, Wright, Wyoming. There's two Democrats left in the state Senate. There's no Democrats around there. The governor talks, like Cuomo, I mean I'm just telling you. That is my point show me once they yield perhaps Florida Florida, perhaps although Antonov the republican legislatures that great there, but that is the while we need to look in word start with the low hanging fruit star where people agree with us and look if we could have three five seven states where we could have an asylum for civil and really liberty I'll. Take that over zero, I find, I think Florida going to be the Magee State of twenty twenty one Daniel. I think I think you're watching Rhonda. Scientists is essentially get a launch, a full frontal assault on covert stand from estate. Then twenty twenty one

and you know we spent a lot of time last hour talking about if Trump is out of the White House next year. What is that look like for him and we all agree not to various point that he would dominate the narrative from messaging and braiding standpoint, but policy side of things. Rhonda Santas, it's gotta, be the face of the law. opposition, I believe next year. I think I know you and you can already see at the way the media's covering and lying about floor. Unelected Sweden all of this year, it's gotta, be wrong to scientists versus the world next year, and it looks to me that's a fight that he actually is picking me speaking. The fight, so I will be fast to see how it turns out at all my friend it is it's great to talk to you. They should join in Estonia. Horwitz get him Get the blaze and conservative review subscribe. This podcast as well. Thank you Daniel, as always by their happy new year. God bless happy New year. I will. taught in here, and could I get your answers to that question as well. What would we? What would we say if we had

An opportunity to speak to every conservative in the country more on that in a moment. A good friend and colleague here at the blaze and conservative review Daniel Horwitz for joining us here today and the Glen Back programme. Hopefully you enjoyed a little pre new yours, new year's reverie, otherwise known as is unique brand of woe and lamentation. We are the crew from the today show filling in four Glenn back here: further twenty five minutes or so on stations around the country. That's me, Steve Dace Todd earn Erin, Mcintyre and men, we ve, been doing kind of this round table conversation on the state of play for conservatives and conservatism, and conservative media heading into the new year and the final question that we're gonna tackle today. What we we just got Daniels answer I kind of cleared the deck. I wanted to give him ample time to give it so now. It said the three of Us Arter.

If we had and we ve got a pretty sizeable audience every day on the blaze in a pretty sizeable audience regular, even in a holiday week on you know, one of the most successful talk, radio programmes of all time declared back Programme We can get to everybody that we're not tuned in with US right now, everybody that doesn't have us on right now. If we could talk, all conservatives in America right now, what would we What would we say top Will you write about governor to Santas, but as I've we ve about an hour show before floored is the four hundred pound the gorilla in the room, so there spotlight. Is there no matter what I would term, to everybody else about making sure the spotlight finds you in your own place it is time for action were way beyond words way beyond con fabs and book signings, its above

What can you do in your own backyard, so low that everybody can be dissenters? You can be. Christy no. What she has manufactured in South Dakota, Listen I'm going to give it the benefit of doubt that it's all real hook, ok, that there's some kind of drift, but your cause. I don't even remember what the issues our Steve, maybe you do, but back when he was in Congress. There are some concerns. Nobody underwhelming wildly, maybe a little squishy, I'm not a sell out, but I don't even remember what the issues that were. That's it was squishy. Not. It was that. You know you were like all she stabbing me in the back, but you were kind of like right this really it wasn't anything, really smile, yeah well here In this moment she figured out how to grab opportunity by the horns and move hearts. in mind to the point people are seriously thinking of self

Dakota as a place, they would move to and we got to start pointed out the coda marketing that you move. There is not a joke right. Ira punch right, it's like I'm in January and February kind of blood chunk. Lots, moreover, tell me about the rest of the year right and moving with our feet. Steve you ve been talking about this for a long time like. Why do you still live? There are fewer conservative in California. You, you need, to all those those realities and if we make, places like South Dakota Orphans in Iowa. Missouri, places like Oklahoma. What can we do? pinafore defaulting towards read. Now. How can we make this solid and it goes to speak to a Daniel said Conservatives they'd, never think about running for school board. You run for school board, to get involved at every level of government border regions. Why? In God's name, is the University of Texas a liberal institution in any way shape or form fix that

these are the place you need to take turf in these places. You need to be Christine NOME. I have no illusions anymore. Whenever I get you went to Washington, you Eddie de as of you watched West wing. It inspired you, you thought you could make a difference it to do. up and spit you out, we'll take the opportunities where you can actually make a difference by being uncompromising, realizing your enemy is. Just as vicious there, your local school board, often as they are in Washington DC, but you have a home times greater chance of winning their that's. Why I chose the school district. I've my kids go to our public school. I have scalps on my wall of the victories. I've won there because you can win their. so when a mare and build up, we need to be thinking that way: you're not gonna, win them right now, with the section of sums, pretty amazing Hale marries in Washington DC. You can win him all the time in states like I was South Dakota Missouri

Charlie is clear, as we speak is, is it is making a first? That's breaking news media first senator to go on record, saying TAT temporarily incoming senator in Alabama, the former football coach has intimated. He thought about it. A Josh Hawley Missouri is the first to go on the record, saying he will object to the electors, as you S, senator, let's get a forced them to vote on it right as what that's gonna do Aaron. We ve done don't look at air month, my messages of Ariane of that and that its don't be afraid and if you are overcome it, because you don't have a choice right now, in other great aviator Chuck Yeager passed away recently. Last two to three weeks dear. What a dear and since he was a guy who who, at a very early age, didn't really have a whole lot of interesting and interest in flying that had great ice so they said, hey we're going to make you go into the air force and he was ace in World WAR two and then after

He proceeded to do a variety of tests, a pilot, operations, including being the first human being to break the sound barrier. You probably know his story, You hear stories, like generally acres, I'm sure there's somebody in your family, whether it sir Grandpa great Gray upon. Maybe they told stories of being in wars previously world war, two in its just a different, a different brand of man a different variety of man than what we see right now, because the EU Think about the guys, the young men, some of them teenagers on those Higgins. Boats headed towards Omaha Beach, you think outside a deer family friend of mine, Dale Miller, who was awarded the bronze star for mapping out South Pacific japanese, controlled islands by night? You think those.

Eyes were afraid, of course they were, but they overcame it. That's what each of us have to do as your headed towards the next beach You may be afraid you got overcome it. You don't have a choice. Damn militia beachhead map out the island. Take that island Todd was saying, go for the achievable victories, guess they're out there. The number one thing is take ownership. Take ownership of your own community, don't say, are and so down the street with their in this house. We believe sign. Did it again. They want Yet no, that's on you, you take ownership of it. So don't be afraid, you're afraid of walking into a store without a mask be afraid of opening up your business. be afraid of the of maybe sometimes, as time has talked about in his own in it community as well, don't be afraid of cars.

Station when its warranted who are afraid than overcome it, because then it gets a lot easier, It's my main message. You can't make fear base decisions. You can't make the based decisions, you gotta overcome fear, very well said both of you. I I can't on a thematic, level, add anything more or better then what you guys and then Daniel nonetheless segment had to say so limited spend a couple of brief moments, talking about this practically. I'm a kid born to a fifteen year old mom, to spend a year at Grand Rapids Community college that couldn't get admitted to the school. I wanted to go to the University of Michigan, because my math score am I a city was abysmally low. I, failed, the quick managerial exam, the convenience store chain in the Midwest, because could remember how to add divide

subtract and multiply fractions Kay, kicked out of university when I verily got in because I but too much time playing super techno, ball, intramural, basketball and I'm going to any classes. The point- is I'm not from some elite family, I didn't go to assimilate university. I I have taken advantage of the opportunities that this country and the Lord of offered me and I ve been sort of the only successful grass roots effort. That's ever gotten rid of States Supreme Court justices in american history the two I will carcass winners that went from negative point, negative percent to getting the most votes of all time. I've help recruit. Scores of candidates that have gotten elected to caning offices. In my own state, in across the country, meaning that, if I can do this. I've done the things that people are talking about here and, if I can do them the kid born

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got my help and a political operation, and one of my When a radio station, I grew up listening to what I am Grand Rapids Michigan to where I grew up as a kid You know I was born in Iowa. I spent my teenage years in Michigan and that's how I fell in love with all the states. Sports teams go blow, You have been lie too. in my old home state of Michigan for a long long time, I gonna give you some data missed in Sweden have essentially the exact same population. And you ve been while, while you're Sweden gave up uncovered nineteen freedom and they went to a lockdown down, I actually went to the swedish government website that I dont trust Armenia, and read in english translation. These are the new restrictions in Sweden. By ready can't have Mass public events of more than eight people at a time other than that

restaurants, bars shopping centres, schools all still open, no masks that that, the swedish lockdown now, is it dumb is it anything close to how we have defined locked down here in this country and throughout the western world. For the past nine months, not even close. Well, Michigan. Sweden have virtually the same amount of people. Michigan his had, as of as if Andy five hundred nineteen thousand eight hundred and seventy six covered nineteen cases five thousand seven hundred and fifty four debts with one The most locked fetishist governors in the car regression Whittemore right. She is she's like the queen, pimp of it interests of locked out right indeed could even go it seed in your don't. You know, but plant flowers in your garden last spring right, Sweden, three hundred and ninety six thousand forty eight cases eight thousand too, and seventy nine debts

In other words about a hundred and forty thousand fewer cases, well over four thousand fewer deaths without anything close to the restrict in a freedom that you all have experienced in Michigan, and That is just part of what we do every day on our shall we, have a zeal for truth, so we seek out data. We seek out facts. We opinions based on what data and fax say not and what we wish them to say, and that is something think for a lot of you. If you're looking for objective information- and we are too- we are too we are not a new show where an appeal in commentary show, but we too, the best we can to give our opinions and commentary based on actual facts and truthful information. as we sign off

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