Hour 1
What are we arguing about?... Does technology rule your life, yet?... Will Human History be turned into Robotic History?... The consciousness of machines... How accurate are our memories?... Can you trust your emotions?... Where were you when 9/11 happened?... "Flash Bulbs" events... We know what we know! But do we?... Are we dealing with some of the biggest questions of man-kind?...
Hour 2
So the "perpetrator" gets to claim being the "victim"?... Special guest, Psychology Professor, sharing about the bias of colleges today... How do we find the other side of the story?... Do we gravitate to Objective Truth?... Eric Weinstein gives advice on how to market yourself, especially if you're a conservative Christian... Glenn Beck reflects on the passing of his mother along with getting death threats at the same time...
Hour 3
Making people "politacally correct"... Truth will always set you free... Glenn Beck gets recharged with words of encouragement!... How does America "feel" about President Donald Trump today?... A re-cap of POTUS from days gone by... "The News and Why It Matters" today with Ben Shapiro...
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The blaze radio network on demand courage back there, so many things that I want to talk to you today about so many really big.
Scandals that were in the middle of so many things that were ignoring so many things that have to be decided
and what are we doing were arguing about what,
the mid terms
were arguing about a corrupt politician that was in bed with Russia years before Donald Trump even came, and we're not even prosecuting him, because we are trying to find out how many people are in bed with Russia, we're just.
Find out of anybody around Donald Trump is in bed with Russia. This is this is ridiculous. What his hat
saying to us and
Meanwhile, the world is changing and
when it hits
we're not even going to be able to, we won't
able to function in it because we haven't prepared ourselves. We haven't even thought when we give you this.
Do you trust yourself, your own
ability to unplug from technology now what
think about this
people who were born before the nineties are now wearing. It is a badge of honor
Facebook
but they do a regular technology fast.
Now I'm not gonna use technology for the next week,
How many make it
like to think that we're not overly dependent on technology. Why?
posting on social media, about how old school we are. How many times you see people say you know what I took a break and you know when I took a break. Everything worked out in your posting that on Facebook,
Why did you come back
how technology is
good thing until
Technology starts giving you puppy dog eyes
producing digital crocodile tears
it happens.
If your technology says please
in turn me off. Please, I'm lonely.
Will you do it.
When I first asked this question on the year, it was
Probably one thousand nine hundred and ninety six 98th and I remember the people in the room looking at me saying that is crazy and I'm like no. It's coming.
Well it's not science fiction anymore. It's right around the corner and of Europe
technical whether humans will treat robots like a family member anew
Study might alter your view. Researchers now in Germany set up an experiment to examine how people treat robots when the robot acts like a human, each
when participant was asked to work with a robot named NEO? They
to create a weekly schedule and answer a series of questions. What
participants didn't know? Was there
completing the task was just away for the researchers to find out
they were really interested in, and that is how the participants, interaction with NATO, would affect their ability to shut the robot down. When asked now
for the participants were asked a shot neo down with
EL the robot protesting, but the
other half
head neo nail protesting. In fact NATO would say. Please don't don't don't turn me off, please! I'm scared that I I will not
brighten up again of the
one in three people who heard his plea. Thirteen
chose not to turn him off.
Some said they felt sorry for him. Other
said that they didn't want to act against his will. The
there are thirty people did turn him off, but they took twice as long on average to do so, then, the group that didn't hear the robots plea somewhat
What the experiment shows us.
It confirms previous research demonstrating that humans are prone to treat technology, especially robots with human, like trades as living beings. Now take. This
human tendency fast forward a few years in the future. When rob
I will look sound and act human they
We also know everything about us. Are the human
do. They have rights if they
have rights do they have voting rights.
By twenty thirty. There will be one hundred
Robots of some sort or another for every human being on earth. One hundred.
If they have rights and voting rights? What does that mean.
Can we find ourselves capable
Of having adult conversations we are at,
Turning point of,
of human history.
And very soon,
problems that we all are now arguing about,
suddenly will seem very, very quaint
It's Wednesday August fifteenth. This is the Glen Back Programme. I honestly don't know how to answer those questions
but I think we we we're going to need to end this fall. We're gonna be delving into some of those with conversations.
Because these things are happening. For instance,
They just stop D, a SEC
robot
from being shipped India, Canada. It was stopped at customs. It was coming in from Japan. Why
Japan is, you know all into the sex robots. I have no idea but
you apparently can buy sex robots from Japan and have them ship to you, but in cash.
Canada, its elite?
to have a sex robot that resembles a child. Now, Japan,
and is making child sex robots and there are
The debate now on whether or not that would be good therapy for pedophiles,
should they dress be allowed to have sex with child robots, so they don't
her two children, or will this
make things worse.
There is a huge debate,
and the whole in this
Entire argument-
ok, let's have that, are- I think I know where I stand, but let's have that conversation.
But the whole that nobody is talking about is when the robot does here to point to wear it claims consciousness, and that will come when you,
we'll be able to tell the difference between a real human being- and you know as some sort of so
The con life form in its
thinking,
Don't you become a slave master that is abusing these robots? Do you think
if it claims to be human,
our life? If it says, please don't do that.
And you're doing it anyway, because you own it. Aren't you a modern day slave trader slave master.
Even if you're, not a lot of people will start to think that I'm sick of the the attachment to inanimate objects that people have already when they're, not
showing human characteristics? You know I mean it's something, that's going to be a real question. I will say
Comes to me no sex, child sex, robots and all of the stuff there's a list.
And into which how many
issues you can master in your life and
it might be a debate. I just completely of point is that is that ok can is? There is a limit to what do I get one issue I can just completely avoid? Yes, you can just they just hold just make noise really loud noise anymore. I don't see anything or hear anything you get. That is something I think you can do that on everything now, but I think there are some things year like I'm just not going to deal with that. If I get my only this one, you Know- and actually this one is. These are the kinds of things that fascinates me and Anna made me now, because I am so tired of the other ones I dont want to deal with the other ones I'm just like. Can we talk about Edifieth inspects, grope, use, at least some of its aid?
less moving as direct argument. That is at least feels in the future, and I wish you good has and its political yeah. It's
political rights, its analytical, it's like, let's look at the facts and really have a deep conversation without somebody sang yadda there in bed with a Trump administration, Hillock odd, your god yeah, that's a scene of them be put you on teams and the nobody else. Can you point out? You noticed this in your book. Edited outraged come out and few weeks, those reading at you, you get a generally speaking. It's it's in
I am always in a more positive book, then, that your known for its very positive look like because it in a year and looking at these issues in your saying, ok, here's an actual solution, you.
You tell them when you get into the sum of the technology stuff that you don't
yet see the end of how that turns out really. Well, I don't think anybody does not mean you have the you. Have you have the best minds on earth split?
some of them are saying it is the end of the human race, which I couldn't make a very passionate case. That would
stand up that? Yes, the human race is over by twenty. Fifty humans will not be humans. We will still kind of exist, but in an entirely different way. I could also
a pretty compelling case that we will all be dead? I couldn't
it's the case as well. That is
Tal Pia on the other side of this, but not
with the way that we are behaving now.
I saw something that I think is.
I would say
I hate to use this word, but I think it is heroic
in today's world. We have lowered our standards.
So all we ve gone so low. That,
it doesn't take a lot to be a hero
and I want to show you something came out yesterday and not a lot of people are talking about it. Then they should
it was, somebody who is backed up against the wall that has information that could hurt somebody.
Really hurt somebody.
And he says: well, I'm not getting involved, even though I know this person what
how to do it.
Its heroic- and I want you to hear what he said. Why
was about and
And his reason for not pulling the trigger will
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So yesterday
I read a quote because everybody, sir oh
I'm a rose. Does she have tapes,
all my rosa.
If we even if she had tape, I mean
The intent behind her
you know she had this intend the whole time
she won on the apprentice for being conniving.
The, even when the Apprentice- and I think she won that she
Did I'm also win the apprentice? Maybe she did and I was on it several times. Wasn't she ass? She was awful. I only saw that one. That's the only reason why I feel it
feeling she lost like I've been out again, I don't awful human being anyway,
and a terrible and should be pointed out a terrible, higher terrible here. Everybody seemed to know this in the universe, except for Donald Trump, and he deserves all the responsibility for hiring her. He it was. It was his call, no
There wasn't any where there is already him over. Their own fan of Donald Trump would have hired Amargosa nobody. Now I can. We have an elderly person who voted for Donald Trump was like hey. You know what I'm glad he put the Comoros in there for everybody on earth knew it was a bad idea except written down for some reason. Okay, so
so there is talk about these tapes. Well, there's somebody else that was on the celebrity apprentice who who spend time with Donald Trump, and I,
happen to know that he
a feels hash,
Lee
about Donald Trump, on no one and not enough, not in a positive way.
He thinks. Donald Trump is. Is you know not the guy? He would have voted for
I know that I am sure I am sure that many of his friends would would be like you have to speak out. You could make a difference. No high hurricane,
He was asked,
So what about zero tape? I mean you're there. Do you view you're mean on the celebrity apprenticed or do they have a tape quote?
I was in the room.
So you heard him say: oh yeah,
Can you tell me what you heard him say no.
If Donald Trump had not become president could tell you all the stories, but this
aches now are too high and I
an unreliable narrator
what I do as much as anything is I'm a storyteller and said
retailers are liars, so
can emotionally tell you things that happened racially sexually. That showed
do pity or lack of compassion when I was in the room with I'll drop, and I guarantee you that I will get the details wrong. I wouldn't
I'd feel comfortable. Talking about what I felt I saw in that room, because when I was on that show, I was sleeping forty five hours a night I was uncomfortable stress
is the wrong word, but I was not at my best then
at the end of the day, they put you into a room and they bring out a guy Donald Trump, who has no power whatsoever, he's capricious and petty and
There are many viruses and you have to pretend to care what he thinks yeah, because that's your job, you sit,
the table in this man rambles pontificates at ease
too much credit and because you live in the modern world you ve heard Trump ramble. You have also heard Trump ramble when he thinks he's being careful amiss,
and when he feels he can be frank
I'll tell you
But I will be very conscientious not to give you quotations, because I believe that would be morally wrong. I'm
trying to protect myself. This is really a moral thing.
Reporters is so just to be to make sure York unclear on this. It would be wrong if you misquote him
because you don't want to have an undue unduly, have an effect on politics.
If he hadn't become president, I would
telling these stories all day long and have somewhere to say pendant,
that exactly right, you go who cares
but now being accurate matters. The stakes are really high. Not for me nothing. I say here hurts my career
for the world. The stakes are higher. He is
the president and he would be reading, and what I am trying to do here is
Tell you the story emotionally without giving you any specifics.
I think this is heroic,
Here's a guy
when the rest of the world is taking things out of context or ignoring
risk, Cuomo, ignoring things about people who that shouldn't
be ignored and too far, but because
there, the enemy of your enemy, you,
because them your friend,
there's a guy who says I don't want any part of this.
I saw things but I in
put things emotionally.
And I can tell you what I felt.
I can't tell you what he said, because I dont know. If I'll remember it right,
do you listen a map, Malcolm Gladwell. Podcast gave listen to some of her yes, so he his last season of podcast wasn't a cistern, resinous history and it was,
It is all about lying
I heard the Brian Williams episode of this? That's only the beginning of it. He D does he shows that people's memories are not accurate
and he shows that you know they did studies on nine eleven there still doing these, they,
two people right after nine eleven. Where were you? What happened? What did you say? Who did you talk to what was around you? Then they come
at every five years, and they say what did you see while ten years into it,
people are starting to look at the statements that they made. They made them right after nine eleven and
you're. Coming back in there saying,
I dont know why I said that cause: that's a lie. I wasn't there. I'm telling you I was
with this person, and we said this and they
fully believe- that
where they were ten years later, and they can't figure out why they would have said that. Well, I must have been an emotional stake. That's not what happened and its
honest both times and this I'll bet. You he's listen to the or he's probably so smart. He probably wrote the research Malcolm
did on this, but that's what he sang idle
trust. My own memory
and I shouldn't have a place at the table. Don't trust any any body because we're all storytellers by the way, the hero Pendule at
so here we are facing some really huge problems. Some some
call decisions that that
absolutely have to be settled, and I truly believe that everything boils down to the bill of rights. I believe that everything boils down to this. Are we a collective
or are we individuals who are trying to live with one another?
Are we so convinced that we are right.
Are we the scientists who say,
There is no such thing as intelligent design. Ok,
only the big bang will what kicked off the big bang. Well,
there is no God
Well, how do you know that we need?
Are you really we become so
sure of ourselves that
don't even take time to to say
Back a second and go women. Does this argument really even matter does
argument. Do anything
are we ever going to be answering that question, I mean
by default and you did say well, that's the wreck,
or you could look at it from a person of faith and say that's the point
you're, never going to be able to prove God
that's what faith is. Therefore we,
we're trying to teach
ourselves.
Oh to have faith in things that are are are unseen.
Is that important.
I think it is because it
at least for me. It gives me the opportunity to believe that tomorrow will be better, because if I lose faith I lose hope and then there's nothing
then tomorrow is just really bleak.
But I have faith.
Which gives me hope- and
can't prove that or disprove that, and yet
what we're doing is were categorizing everybody, because you have to if you're going to be a collective than everyone has to have a label. I keep all of these people over here and all of these people over here when
Pendule. That was the key was asked this question saying: you're sick,
to call that there has been a shift which has been attributed to Trump ISM in those people's willingness to believe things. That are odds at odds with the facts,
responds
But when you say these people you're making a huge error, because there are no these people, they don't exist. You hear stuff like
Drug supporters are homophobic, troublesome borders or massage monistic. This is a mistake
and it was made by the Democrats when the.
Accused Trump supporters of being things that Trump supporters knew they weren't they?
our trump supporters that have there are trump supporters that have best friends who have gay sex. They do, and so you,
and put they type of thing on that for
fifty million years, our biggest problems were too few calories and too little information for,
Two years now, our biggest problem has been too many calories and too much information.
So what are we gonna do
So how do we? How do we adjust.
The first thing is going back to Malcolm Gladwell. Is
stopping so arrogant that we are right.
Students, Stew, you and I were together on nine eleven while not together. We are what we were a couple now: yeah we're on the phone thread running the show for the day to day
We were on the phone when the second plain hit corrects or on the phone talking about the first thanks. It was on. The news, are incorrect and,
the second playin it we are still on. The same phone call was still going on. We
talking to each other when the plane hit right and we were not, you had,
Looked over to take another call,
so you are on the phone. I think it's time you all year.
And you we were talking to her when that, having, as I remember being on the phone with no one and then like screener screaming, God knows what to my wife, who is in the other room. I think in the shower.
I ve told you ve told the story of nine eleven. Before that we were on the phone. We were talking to each other and we were actually at that moment talking to each other. Now I would have never remember that just moments after we were and
That is like their certain
points about day that to me are completed,
perfect, video. Let me ask you this happened, but in reality that's out, though your memory work did we watch the world.
Rates and the first one come down to
Where did we watch it? Did we see it?
I endorse, obviously scene it a thousand times, but I don't know that I sought live right,
my memory is we were in the car we went in together did gang. I dont know why we even did that are where we met.
But we were going in together and we heard it come down on the radio we were listening W. I fella yeah hath at your ear yeah by then we got in and we saw the replay of coming down yeah, I didn't see it come down together.
I think, you're right. You know this is something neither of us really remember for sure all the details, and this is something that changed our lives. I mean we are entire job chain
on that day and we have done nothing for the last twenty years, other than kind of study. The ramifications of that event.
But how many people claim that they absolutely no these things, but they do.
Yeah you, you mentioned the people who wrote down on nine eleven. They
interviewed on nine eleven, a nine twelve wrote down where they were on those days.
Five years later asked the same question: where were you on those days till a totally different story, then, are shown in their own handwriting, the store
They wrote the day after,
and they say the old memory. The thing I said on nine twelve two thousand one was wrong. The new memory that I have now is the right one. How do you explain the incredible and in
of course, come up with
total evidence on this, but it's something like sixty per cent of these memories on these flat may call them flashbulb evasion, sick,
The per cent of these memories are wrong in some way, so those your flash bulb events. Those are things
The flash goes on and you remember it because it was you know the day Kennedy was killed. The day Reagan was shot that moon landing. Glad you remember where you were cuz it. A flashbulb, went off and captured its sixty percent of the memories are wrong. Imagine that non flashbulb events where you were just there and you were like all- I think- that's pretty much. What it is.
Not nefarious people, don't necessarily change it for nefarious reasons, its job.
Decay,
telling the story over and over again it just
the caves in your mind and when those big events like afford, you know you mentioned the first tower coming down. Will I have seen the first hour come down. I've seen it a thousand times anxious that the nine eleven museum a few weeks ago and sought again us up
ten times. Probably, why was there so? I dont
no, that my brain over a twenty year period is able to sort out when the first time I saw that was and where I was, even though in my head, I kind of feel like I kind of remember, standing there watching it, but it was.
Probably a reply,
Right I mean I, you can't we get
so confident in our own memories, and that was come to the point they were making on this particular one was with Brian Williams. They went through
numerous examples of brain limbs. If you remember he said he was hit,
his he was shot added at helicopter. His helicopter was hit over, you know and destroyed his career and,
they went through, but tons of examples of the same
the thing outside of politics outside of a guy trying to puff of his own chest or whatever, and that show you that this happens, all the time
people all the time and in his story they they had it as it evolved heat
the story and it slightly changed over time says otherwise they had happened. It was. It was first
Was he arrived hours after
copper was shot down
Then this any told it that way. Several times, then it became
the lead helicopter was shot down and he landed shortly. After then,
it was his,
His helicopter was shot out, but it took years and
documented web through Malcolm Gladwell. All of the slide,
changes to the story where you get.
The point where no, that I swear to you, that's what happened. That's what happened!
we didn't and it's not
nefarious. I mean certain
People do lie about things like this. In an end, Brine Williams, kind of came out afterwards and said yeah. I guess it was my ego that got in the way he be
sickly admitted to it and go
those cases actually you shouldn't have admitted to it. He probably didn't do it. He probably just didn't understand it, and I don't know, maybe that whether that's true with billions are not, I don't know, but I know that it does. A union scientifically statistically happens to people all the time and so insisting per cent of flash ball memories credible number in oak. I would have never thought it was that high. I know that while there are certain moments in my life tat, I looked back in and I know what happened with with a hundred percent certainty. There's a almost all of your childhood, your earliest memory of being a child. The earliest memory is not true.
Like the first thing that you can first thing that you can remember, especially if you're somebody who says I remember when I was too.
I know I remember my mother coming to the crib visiting. Most of those are not true. This is a pat grey of GPS. It has a too, I think, it's a two year old memory and he's very specific about toward member. I told him I said there is. There is a very high probability. It's like almost a hundred per cent of those are not true. I say this
any like
Absolutely not. I remember it Glenn. I remember I'm like I know, and
saying that you're lying rising. Here's the research that is showing that this is how that memory came to be and he's like, I'm no. That happened
I can? By combining these two topics we women on a little at this hour there?
Talking about this tape,
right that comes out supposedly with Donald Trump having I said, some racial seller at
in time, there's technology being developed and is at a very
in its infancy at some level but
is the give you the ability to create a person, Sir
in anything
created out of thin air? You know it's technology that we play with a little bit on the air, and then we can make some one say something they didn't say how deep fakes, deah deep fixed for video and others, a couple companies that are their attempting to do in this area they their egg. The explanation is well, you know. If someone loses their voice in some accident, this would be given the chance to speak again in their own voice. It would be amazing, there's a good
Applications for it but point is
about the combination of a fake,
but maybe you even know initially is effective, but
more time. Your memories gonna play tricks on you and whether you actually remember it or not, as somebody
That was real.
We are not designed to handle the stuff and its good are really difficult to navigate these waters of the next two five to ten year end, and here we are, we are becoming more and more arrogant in what we know. We know less and less and yet
We are becoming more and more arrogant in what we think. We know.
When we don't know we're
Asking questions now that perhaps have never been asked inhuman dot in humankind, except for
die fire writers.
What are we these questions before we ve? We ve not had the ability to
augment somebody to.
Take them from a woman to a man.
And we're not
willing to have the actual scientific conversation of what
defines a man and what defines a woman
what is that? Our? U physically now, because we ve augmented, you are you physically, a woman, you can
identify that's?
their conversation, but we won't even have those conversations we're dealing with some of the biggest questions
Mankind is ever dealt with and we will
Have those conversations and here's what scary
a is being programmed right now by people who are saying there is no absolute truth. We do.
I know the answers to these things or we do know the answers, but their new answers.
Proposed, modernist answers.
Well, wait a minute that's going into the baseline programming of something that soon is going to say. Don't turn me off. I am alive
how do we define if you're alive or not,
what is life
that's easy. You know you were born. You have a soul, ok can
You prove that there is a soul,
because that's what I'm going to say to you
they don't have a soul in
kind of create or are we
we're creator, we believe,
created us and
and gave us certain rights and set us free and said
try to live within these.
Didn't force us said trot
two. It was other men that tried to oppress us out
Our creator created us said these: are your rights, protect them for everybody, and
We twisted it
kind of creator or create something
claims its intelligence claims and is smarter than the creator. In the end.
And
We believe there
life, because of something that
we can't prove.
I just want you know. I am not suggesting an answer here. I don't have an answer.
We better start by
king away from this blue and red argument and start
looking at deeper meanings.
And luckily alot of this homework has been done for us by the founders. It's called the bill of rights. Lot of those things can be solved to day, just by coming back together on what brought us together in the first place, certain truths that we find self evident,
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are today segment of postmodern geometry. The hashtag me to dilemma here is the
University? She apparently is the real victim, even though she allegedly sexually harassed a former student
lead university. Who is,
actually harassing a gay male student. Who is the victim
you don't have much time right. Of course, it's
the professor.
Her name is avatar run now. She sixty six years old, professor of German, in comparative literature at New York University. She apparently is the real victim, even though she allegedly sexually harassed a former student but
times wrote about the whole ordeal in an article talk titled. What happens to hashtag me too, when a feminist is accused of all
we all know the feminist is in the right run out,
quite publicly has been accused of sexually harassing Nimrod right man,
thirty, four years old, graduate student and currently visiting visiting fellow at Harvard now Grenelle is, and you know, an act
I'm a rock star is one colleagues described in one of the very few philosophers stars of the word
old
the investigation concluded that
to the the teacher? They professor was the one responsible for sexual harassment, both physical and verbal, to the extent that her behaviour was sufficiently pervasive to alter the terms and conditions of these students learning environment, so she was suspended
the accusations right
its claim that before the school year in twenty twelve Ranal invited him to stay with her parents in
Paris, for a few days,
the day he arrived? She asked him to read poetry to her in her bedroom. While she took it
Afternoon nap
He said it was a red flag, but I
also thought, ok you're here, let's not make a scene,
then he said she
pulled him into her bed. She
my hands onto her breast and she was pressing herself
buttocks onto my crotch. She
kissing me kissing my hands kissing my torso. That evening a similar seem played out again. He said
emails that he produced. I won't
with a slight fever in a sore throat I'll, try very hard not to kiss you until the throat situation receive
security clearance. This is not an easy deferral. Another email time for your midday kiss my image during meditation, we're on the sofa your head on my lap, stroking your forehead playing,
awfully with your hair soothing. You headache gone yet, yes,
to starting the starting Lee? Who is the one from fifty of her colleagues? All the educators from around the globe quote
although we have no access to the confidential dossier, we have
for too many years in close proximity to the professor and
have accumulated collectively years of experience to support our view of our capacities, a teacher in a scholar, but also someone who has served as a chair of both the departments of german and comparative literature at New York University. We ve all seen her relationship with students and some of us know the individual who is wage. This malicious campaign against her end quote so. The student has,
then expelled the
Professor is fine now
Wanna take he guess where she stands on Trump,
She'd, like Donald Trump, she says I take it as a regular rigorously necessary that trumps mouth whole, be the flapping aperture to funnel floods of racially unleashed aggression, the toxic spill of his language, part of the recourse to crucial intersection where twitted sure meets,
something else.
So
here we have somebody who is too important to the cause
sexually assaulting. Someone
young game man
and she gets a pass.
Because well she's in the right she's in the right club,
she's, absolutely the right club in sheep.
Two important to lose.
It's Wednesday August fifteenth. But this is the Glen Back Programme, so we have somebody on the phone and I haven't talked about her yet because I just want to ask her myself one last time before you introduce her
Give her the opportunity to back out, because I don't think this is going to go well for her career.
Unless we change her name. This is that mean this? Is how crazy things or have gotten? Can we bring her on real, quick issue there? Yes, I'm here
Are you sure you want to have this conversation on the air? I know the rules of not saying where you work, but you're Willie
put your name out there, which I mean you know there's as private. I called Google that will find you quickly and I don't think this is gonna go well for you. In the long run.
Appreciate it. I want to tell your story, but are you sure,
I have been praying for a couple of days about it and I really feel like I'm supposed to be.
Air, giving hope to other conservative professors, giving hope too conservative parents who are worried about sending their kids off the college that I am
her to speak truth, but I also need to be respectful of the place where I work in the people were question, so it is
very difficult decision so either if you're right, it is a risk. I know you want to give your name, but I'm not going to give it a few at some point want to give your name. That's fine, but I think you're just
think that just opening up a world of hurt that you don't need to go through
You are a psychology professor, yes
and you have been an adjunct. Professor add a at a good college and you're looking for full time work, and you don't think it's gonna happen.
Because of what colleges are like right now to have them
yes figures there,
Very clearly documented hiring bias both an ant.
Conservative hiring by us in an anti christian hiring bias, particularly in the humanities and Social Sciences, which is worth psychology fault,
you, you have been teaching over the past eight years and
You have said that there is a a shift in an attitude
Even by the students now can you tell me about that: definitely
when I first started teaching. It was exactly what I pictured as far as the dynamic between the professor and the students where there was a clear distinction unrolls there with respect and over the last
three to four years. I have noticed a shift where progressively stew
and Sir becoming more emboldened. They see a blow
between the lines. There's less respect for me as an authority figure and they feel like they could.
Just challenge me
rarely do it in class most of the time they do it online. So they'll send me an email or if they'll post, something in the end of class survey, which is supposed to be an anonymous but there and
Some of them have gone to the ministration behind my back to
I too Aquino complain or what have you, because they feel that I'm too strict or they
want to have accommodations. Where accommodations aren't do so, it's become more of a place of instability.
Students part. Luckily, I had been able
manage it pretty well, and it hasn't escalated to the point where some professors say like the professor at Berkeley. Hide students disrupt the fine.
Exam to protest or bread wine steam who had his class in disrupted by protesters. I haven't experienced anything like that. Most of the time
The students are good in the classroom. Its outside of the car
there must, especially when they feel emboldened by being able to post online or in a do something anonymous
Oh, you are teaching unregretted graduate course on research methods and
you said: ok, let's look at the campus assault study.
Campus climate survey that came out in twenty fifteen and
Let's look at this and what did you have the students do? It was
the point of the class
lecture was talking about research validity. So looking at research studies and thing is this actually valid? Does it does the results indicate?
What people are saying they result indicate, and I decided to take a risk and be bold and have them analyze. The the campus sexual assaults study and looked to see one does have a canopy generalised, have external validity to and also does it have internal validity do the way that they define these terms hold up to construct validity and
was amazing to watch the class just become shocked because they ve all heard the statistic cited, but when they actually Doug into the study, they started to see its limitations very quickly and to be
most I've never been more terrified in the class
then, when I was standing there and openly challenging this study and guiding my students to think critically.
And analyze. What the study actually said,
When you say you have never been more terrified. What were you terrified of? I was terrified
dead. I would have a student or students in the class that would react. Poorly
to having that cognitive dissonance begins. Clearly, that's what they were experiencing. I was terrified that some would march under the class and go and tell the administration, and
probably waited about a week or two thinking that the other shoe is going to drop. That's that somewhere someway. I offended a students that you know having their worldview are. Having disinformation challenge was going to prison of dissonance that they were going to react negatively in this in
it didn't happen, but if it's definitely a risk everytime, I do it and it wasn't just out when I also had them challenge the wage gap study. I also had been challenged. The climate change study that everybody quotes, the ninety seven percent agree.
I took a lotta risks in order to teach my students that they need to think for themselves. They need actually analyze these studies.
Rather than you know, citing the talking points that the media and others have pulled from it. When you ask your cooled class for counter arguments to things like micro aggression, what happens?
most of the time. They don't understand what I'm saying
They think that there is just one position out there: they ve never heard that there's anything else
never heard an alternative position, so there was-
assignment bet. I, how do you
whose I didn't have a choice. I could modify it, but there was a question in their micro aggression, so I told them the way. I want you to answer. It is to prevent me both sides I want.
To make an argument that microbes aggressions exist and are detrimental, and then I want you to make an argument against it, and I had to provide all of the resources for them to make the counter argument, because they didn't know
a counter position existed. They had no idea how to start looking for that. It was pretty amazing too, to see that that they do they weren't even aware that there's all turn it of positions to some of these things that have just been fed to them through their education,
so I have felt with two things: how do we expect to have a free p?
and a free press if
people are being turned out in colleges and universities,
who don't even know how to look for,
the other side of the story,
I have found that
many times the
students?
our hungry, to see the other side there there excited when they see wait a minute. I haven't heard that even
that doesn't change their mind, their eggs.
I did about it.
The your experience I would save for the most part,
I've. Seen
most students when they get exposed to this information when a vague exposed to alternative
what the world views something other than postmodernism other something other than critical theory. When they get exposed to alternatives. It is exciting to see me
they realise that they aren't critical fears. They realise that they aren't postmodernism. They actually do believe in objective reality and objective truth and there's almost a relief for a lot of them that there's something out there that more closely allied
I met with the way that they do think of the way that they were raised, but I always have
group in their that resist that
they are just show dead set and what they ve been taught that anything that brings that cognitive dissonance they attack in one of the things I
choice and is actually teaching about marriage and relationships. And so I talk about gender differences and I always have at least one student who yes, but I mean all the way through that lecture, because they want to deny the fact that if there's anything, either biologically based or neurologically base that distinguishes the genders and distinguishes
how men and women experience life and filter information, how we communicate with. Clearly there is, but I also
have somebody in there that will push back, but the majority seems to really, like you said, be excited and hungry for it
in the ninety nine. I read a quote from a manual can't and he said there
things that I believe that I shall never say, but I shall never say two things that I do not believe that
terrified me: I couldn't even understand a world there were. Somebody would have to hide what they really believed. I thought what kind of world and how blessed are we that the world is
that way,
we're that way. Now. Aren't we definitely that debts
at least in the environment and which I work, but I would say also in social media. That's why I've gotten off social media, because that risk
my career, that's why I'm very guarded and very calculated about you know
I choose to say and bring up in class with my students, but also the way that I conduct myself around colleagues, its absolute
I want to take a quick breakin. I wanna come back and I bet you found, I think, an unlikely friend, a strange bedfellow that gave you some advice. I went to kind of talk about that when we come back with a professor of psychology that is going to varying remain nameless. This should tell you where we are as a nation. This person, I think, if they gave their name they would be out by the end of the day,
for saying what she just said to you more in just a second, by the way
or speech? Not less sticks and stones can break your bones, but words we'll. Never.
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We're talking to a woman who is a christian conservative and a university professor. She is a yes and Ag John professor of psychology.
And she currently is working at a map
more conservative or christian college
but is looking for. You know another placement and, as little concerned about it, I have
but I am not going to tell you her name. She is more than free to volunteer that if she wishes, but I think she's incredibly brave for for coming on the program and saying what it's really like,
in the university system, especially if you're a teacher- and you mentioned a postmodern postmodernism earlier, and how students do
react positively to it when given an alternative- and I think
Isn't that, though, that the reason why here
how can it be allowed to succeed as a professor, because if they're in the whole premise of postmodernism isn't there can't be another option, because if there is another option and we human beings are going to go towards an objective truth,
definitely, and that is something that I mindful of, but I feel
that's why I'm here, I feel, like I'm, called into this to be a light in the darkness, and I present
alternatives, but I do not proselytize. I do not indoctrinate students to my way of thinking like some
colleagues may be doing to their way of thinking? I feel that
That is why I am here, that's my wife, my motivation. So that's why I take those risks. If I didn't take those risk.
It wouldn't be fulfilling my purpose. I will tell you the best professors that I've ever had best teachers. I've ever had were ones where I didn't know their opinion. I had no idea, I would think they're arguing this so hard. This is clearly their opinion and then they would flip
and also may be arguing so hard. You like wait a minute. I thought you believed now then
said that their
or just arguing, showing you both sides and pushing you up against the wall on both sides. I think, though, that I think that is the way education should be. I agree
it's exactly how I try to approach it.
So you you
You met with Erika wine steam us die,
and and he was from Evergreen College and if people,
don't know what he went through. He is a he's, not a guy who's. Actually, you know probably agrees with you on very much personally.
But he was pushed up at Evergreen College, which is more radical in Berkeley and went through Hell. I'd like you to talk about
meeting with him and what you guys talked about and and how that all went, what advice he gave to you when we come back
we're talking to an age professor of psychology who will remain nameless and we're not gonna say where she works either
due fear of reprisals, she liked to have a job
but she is she's talking about what it's like to be a conservative and day and a Christian and
the professor at the same time. Those things don't seem to be go hand in hand anymore,
and and now you know why she's not going to be named, hear you
when you started looking for another job and you realize to aim
Everything is a trigger everything on my Reza, a trigger to say no to,
you actually sought out in an met Eric Weinstein's.
Can you tell me a little bit about that yourself
I am, I met aeroplanes dying. He is actually Brett. Weinstein's brother threat on the part of the intellectual dark web breadths, the one that was it
evergreen where it is a mathematician. And if you have asked, but he's also very much a part of academia. But you- and I got to briefly encounter him a couple of months ago, and I decided to ask for his advice because, yes, I am preparing to start looking for full.
Employment, and my resume screamed christian. You can't hide it and I brought that up to miss it.
A conservative, I'm a Christian. I teach in psychology, I'm looking for
I work. Do you have any advice for me and he said you definitely have to strikes against
It is I'm not gonna lie. You have two strikes against you
the only way that you're gonna find full time. Employment is you're, gonna have to find
something and make it your thing, and I told him
My approach to teaching that I try to be
I want to try to prevent both sides. I focused on critical thinking in analysis and it goes than that's it make that your thing you're gonna, basically after market yourself, as you know this particular
ouch in order to stand out, but he very much
concerns. My fears that its those are two strikes
Hence me, and then I am, I haven't appeal climb in order to find full time employment. What did you
think when you saw what his brother went through it evergreen it with
Harry, because if you recall that at the same time period that Miley Annapolis experienced the protesters at Berkeley, so it was almost like this.
Weird moment in history, where this shift was very obvious and very clear and was happening to different universities, where these students felt so emboldened that they he could behave this way and then they held were they held him against his will in the library for several hours for a mock trial and several
the professors that were there were almost testifying against him in this in this Kangaroo court? I mean it's bizarre. Yes, in those same students,
who held the thinkers either the game
for the president of a university held hostage, wouldn't even let him go to the restroom by himself and then
security on campus, told Breton,
steam dont come to camp. Is
Is there going car by car looking for you, it was insane
this is not a big university. That's actually a priest, small college in Washington and the idea that that-
didn't were getting away with his behavior
definitely is is scary to to think of
what might happen, because he's actually illiberal he's still says he's a liberal susan he's. An evolutionary scientist ears like does very little- is the common ground. Here with most conservatives, he is
You know he's a die hard liberal, but he's a classical liberal. That says I want stats. I want proof, I oh I mean let's, let's use the age of enlightenment, but that is what postmodernism in and I think universities are trying to crush right now is the the the modern world leave the world that was created through the enlightenment? Definitely
that's something that I've heard both Breton.
Requesting talk about is that they are against postmodern thinking as well
and that's where we find alignment is even though poet us. We may diverge they're, both Asia and a Christian, but yet weave aligned on this common cause of thing hold on a second, you don't get to just redefine reality. You don't get to just redefine language. You don't get too personally choose what is truth and what is not. He was one of the most popular professors at Evergreen, everybody loved him highest bias marks from students, but
because he said wait a minute wait a minute, I'm I'm a scientist and
X y, mean something
there is an ex scrubbers. Our y chromosome doesn't mean that use the deny that
doesn't mean that I now have to go in with your delusion is an exit. Why? Let's talk science, that
made him, we have to have police protection and actually start to teaches glass out in the pub
square because say said we're not gonna be able to protect you in the university. It's crazy. It is in its
absolutely terrifying, and that's why, at the
firstly on that right now, it seems like the students are pretty evenly divided, so it doesn't seem like I'd be overwhelmed, like I would add a more
liberal college like that, but
when I'm going to apply at other universities, I dont know what kind of climate is there and one of them
he said I ve been thinking about. Is it's not just a question
Well, they even call me for an interview haiku even get hired, but if they do
who do. I don't wanna work there, because in a less than eight
psychology professors identifies conservative
and many universities don't have a single conservative on staff period so that
another thing I have to think about is not just while they hire me, but is that
an environment that I'm might even be able to be successful. My going to be able to even teach do no good
the gardener is no, I'm not.
Named David Learners, actually, the first guy the Unabomber tried to kill. He lives in an awful lot of pain. Now
He survived, he is a futurist, but he is also the son of a rabbi deeply religious. He is a math professor. He won, I don't remember what he invented, but he invented Smirnoff. I don't know the cursor or something for apple. They took
technology and made it there's he sued them. I think he one like half a billion dollars in a lawsuit guy's, an absolute genius
but is very concerned about the universities he's
at Yale now not real popular on campus? I think he is with students, because he so smart, but we have
act before about the university system is coming apart. It's it's a stock gonna, be there ll be no ten years of the way. It is now
it won't work and being a
well to do things on line. Have you thought about do
the class online I have.
Been asked to do. Courses online and I've tried it the problem with being a professor online, at least with the way that they do
It's been given to me by this university. I know how other universities do. It is, I basically
this great there's, no lecture. There's no lesson there, given a textbook to read the given assignments to do, and then I just show up in grade and death
frustrating, because then there's no teaching
yeah you got
two in touch with David Gluttony, because yet
Maybe you should talk to him. He might be able to.
Advise you are. Maybe it's I'll ask him and see if he'll come on in and the two you can have a conversation. I think it would be helpful for a lot of people who are in your situation whether there at a university level are not just trying to find
way through this madness of this world and and and how to navigate it. Definitely great orator, great gonna, give you
another chance? I suggest you don't take it, but
We wanted to introduce yourself, you may, to be honest, it is a real
big risk to do that and, like you said that Google machine is pretty power, yet my sets fine. I just wanted to. I just wanted to give you the opportunity, I'm I applaud you for not taking it. Thank you so much
and we'll be in touch God bless and give you bet cannot believe the world we live in its the ammonia will come when you were talking about earlier. You know, I mean it's really in a time where you can't stand up
as a person and say the things you believe
and how many of us are really saying the things that we believe I mean. Let's see, that's my problem with today's society is
have you really thought all this stuff through
Are you really that sure
are the other things you're saying, let me say it
Let me say this way
remember when I had to go on tour for the Christmas sweater,
and that was the hardest thing I've ever done, because it was a personal story. I remember that of life of my my mother's death and
you- are a wreck. I was a around yes, it was horrible. What you didn't know at the same time that that was happening. I was under leave
the first real active death threats that I had
I am still working at CNN and I had these nine eleven truths. Thank you
stones.
Coming after me and saying that I was the cover up guy. I was the CIA operative and cover up guy.
For nine hundred and eleven and they were threatening us. We actually had one of our tour buses run off the road we had to switch to or buses all the time, so nobody knew which one I was in
and luckily, the one that I wasn't in was run off. The road
Had a guy come up into me online that the key words were all traders
that all traders will be eliminated. I think-
and
had to go into crowds every single day and
knowing that there was somebody in there that
probably wanted to kill me and a guy came,
and I and II, every spider sense in me just went off and is like this guy this guy, this guy, my security felt it too. They came
to my side and, unlike I'm, not going to be afraid, I am going to shake his hand and wish a merry Christmas, and I
stuck my hand out my said merry Christmas and he had his hands in his pockets and he said all traders must be and he started to take his hand out of his pocket and he was on the ground before he knew it.
And I remember.
I remember sitting the back the tour bus.
And saying
I will not die for the things that I do not believe
I will not die for stupid stuff.
Because I said something, and I was you know just going off, half cocked or it was funny, I'm not going to die for that. What is
that you're worth,
It's worth dying for an eye
through that time by imagining the worst thing that could happen,
to me the worst thing that could happen. I envisioned myself on the sidewalk. No,
That was the last,
few moments I had- and I was nowhere near my family-
and I would never be able to say goodbye to them,
and I imagined the worst thing so then I wasn't afraid of it anymore
strangely. For me, I don't know if that's the healthy thing to do or not, but strangely for me it worked that
a pact with myself dont, say
anything that you don't believe me
how many of us have done that company
I've had to or
CS probably has not die but not be able to work again, we
we are entering the time that I have warned about for so long.
A knife. I told you you're going to be mad you're going to be angry. There would be going to people that want to take you to that anger and have you expressed that anger and it will be the wrong direction.
We are, we are
encouraged now to embrace our outrage. We are encouraged to just
actually did up, say it back. I'm tired of people saying and just taking the punch, I'm telling you that is the wrong direction. The
direction is to take a moment before you go online and I dont.
So if you can do this without the real threat, but that
that will come to you.
And before you go online before you start to have a conversation, ask yourself
am I willing to literally fight over this. Am I willing to literally be beaten in the streets, for this? Am I to never be able to work again for this? Am I willing to
die for what I am about to say. If you,
take that attitude and you
couple it with courage.
That you will say the things that you believe
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there are many times in fact, almost all of the time
what you here is my opinion and nothing more there.
Four times that I feel that there is
more to it than than that, and what I just
The sad just a few minutes ago,
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You know, there's there's a young.
Harvard is now calling for blacklisting trump officials.
And I want to get into this next, they want to make sure that anybody who served in the Trump administration anybody
It is never offered any job in academia now
this coming from a group of people that have embraced bill errors
they're saying the Trump
officials. Any of them should be blacklisted entreated civilly, but blacklisted, we'll get into that next.
Jason Rich wine wrote last
you are collected several examples of we support free speech bought style statements we
point being that the speakers don't actually support free speech.
Running in the Boston Globe. On Monday, Harvard Economics economist, Danny Roderick, follow
The similar template quote the truck
Administration confronts universities with a serious dilemma. He says on one hand, universities must be open to diverse viewpoints. We feel it coming
I do
pump. Administration officials are tainted, they should be treated civilly in their public appearances, but academia should never grant them faculty appointments or even university sponsored speaking engagements now.
That sounds very open minded done it too. You still so much.
This is coming from
This is coming from a group of people,
led a
shouldn't know about the whole Galileo thing, you know,
Galileo said on the earth is in flat. It's a square and
so they put him up in a tower
because they couldn't have him teaching something that wasn't the agreed upon science, because at the time the political power was the church.
Let me say that again, the political power was the church
Make church evil made
the political power being the church evil.
Really bad what happens when you start to have a church state, a state
Purchase state religion, whether that religion is Catholicism, more room, environmentalism or
progressive ism
proposed modernism,
that's usually backfired
Oh they fail to see
and had looked and searched throughout history
to avoid the Galileo issue.
They fail to to see that when
parties came in the first thing. They did was start getting rid of all of the teachers, the disagreed with them all the professors,
same thing was stolen in communism. Yeah you ve gotta, go you
and be training young minds so border. They do they. They made people politically correct.
Politically correct
it's amazing how we just say pc and political correctness, and we don't really understand what that means.
Means: you must be correct with who
ever. Has political control.
That's a bad thing?
and that is exactly what our founders knew. Our founders head, had looked and searched throughout history and said: ok, who
who did it right? Who did it wrong?
survived. What Didn'T-
what a loud maximum freedom and how did that a road?
they actually did studies. I know it's crazy and what they were
Looking for was any system that worked.
And they found that man could indeed
rule himself, but there will have to be a lot of rules.
Because there would be people, it would rise up and say, look you're, tired, you're sleepy! You don't want to do it yourself
You need a safety net I'll be here to provide one for you.
And so they built our government around the idea. Governments can provide these safety nets for you.
You have your churches, do that you can have your own community. Do that you can have your town do that. I don't care how you do it, but the federal government
Job is to protect your rights.
And we're all gonna disagree. Could somebody's gonna say no, it's my church. That is the right one. You're gonna
oh to Hell! If you dont join my church and another as a normal, always mine church is right. You're gonna go to Hell,
and so the idea is hey. We don't pick aside on churches. Ok,
do pick aside on right and wrong, because there is absolute right and wrong. In fact, our laws were
stab list on that
template of the judeo christian laws.
So you're saying we're at church. No, I'm saying forget about God in the Bible. Just read it:
point? Do you take all of the magic out of it? I don't believe in all the magic. Ok,
just look at the principles.
Do the principles work.
Do the principles of the way God supposedly established through magic that he is
stab list his people did, though
Things work, we argue about gerrymandering,
You know I gerrymandering is wrong.
It's not a biblical principle steak
Are
That is what Jefferson and Adam said would be the reason we would probably breakdown, because
He didn't do it the way it says in the Bible which stakes being when there's fifty people or five hundred people than matter. That's a steak and it just a square.
And when there is more than that, then you split that steak and you grow it to another five thousand people and then, when that square is full of five thousand people in there's more, you split it again. So there's no gerrymandering, it's just these are the people who live around each other period.
She that would solve gerrymandering? Wouldn't it
that's a God principle I've
ray it's a magic book principle, but the magic book actually works
so here's a group of people.
Had. Originally universities were set up by churches.
To be able to teach.
The universities here in Amerika,
Were the reason these guys
is that they were the reason we kept it for so long because
we're teaching, along with the churches, true principles and how to think not what to think how
to think it's. The enlightenment use science and reason couple
with your face, but
let's make sure that it's it's provable. Let's make sure that this is scientific. It's not just the air. While he says it's right needs in the Red Party disease where, in Iraq color,
let's have reasoned discussion on it,
the people of the universities they
forgotten about Galileo. They have forgotten
about stolen. They have forgotten about the
purges. The the university purges in Germany
and everywhere else, where a dictator takes control?
forgotten about the black list. You remember when the black list was a bad thing. Pay we don't want to create a blacklist. Is there some sort of a blacklist going on here
now they're saying that
administration poses a serious dilemma for universities? We
to have open and diverse viewpoints, but.
Because those officials are tainted. We
Never grant them faculty appointments or even university sponsored engagements. So another words: let's put together a black list.
And these are the people teaching our children. I mean I'm.
They cause me no fear.
Because in the long run they always lose,
they may take us a hundred years, but they will lose
truth, Aloha set you free and they are
at teaching truth. They are
teaching true tolerance of opinion
then I'm sorry
There is no line on freedom of speech. I dont
to tolerate it. Mute
have to tolerate mine.
But there is no line where you can shut me up.
More ideas, not fewer big,
ideas, not smaller, more voices, not fewer. That's
american principle that brought us here and brought humanity out of the darkness? Do you think you're more like the visa freedom fighters in the dark ages? Do you think you're more like Galileo or your more like the church? When you say ah come up, keep unquiet, don't let him speak, which one are you more like? Are you,
we're like Mccarthy,
the people that went to jail because they believed something we
One are you.
Are you more like the university professor, that was jewish and just was teaching and doing his job any was great, but because he was a Jew. He was
escorted off camp, is because each is teaching jewish stuff
Are you more like the Nazi or
The professor is like I've done nothing wrong states who I am, which one
when you're proposing your black list.
So. I have no fear that that
Kind of.
Fascism loses in the end. I do fear the battle, but
If the battle is to be had, the battle will be had in it. We are children will be stronger because of it
Perhaps our great great grandchildren will be
because sometimes darkness last longer than a lifetime.
But I still have hope that people will stand in line with common sense and common principles. The principles being the bill of rights
but I just want to. I just want to point out to the
Harvard intellectuals who are so much more well educated than I am. They can use big words and all the best words they have them best. Education
best, friends and and the best connections
the biggest words so there much smarter than I am
But I have, while I am not afraid of you, I m you
makes it difficult for me as a human being not
pissed is hell at you.
Because you are so arrogant
you don't even see your own hypocrisy, but we
and have the blessing university tainted by people except
you hired Bernardino Doorn. She was on the most wanted list
bill airs most wanted list there,
terrorists. While they were fine for north western and University of Illinois, they were fine.
Another, whether underground woman,
Kathy Buddhist. She would second degree murder
Second degree murder. She
She went to jail for killing police officers.
Well yeah, but when she got out in two thousand three after serving a twenty year sentence by two thousand eight, she was you know she was the scholar in residence at Columbia, law.
Don't talk to me about not tainting your blessing university
how about Howard, Metzinger
tried to kill the Detroit blow up the Detroit Police Department,
University of North Carolina, chapel, Hill or Erica.
Huggins she's
One of the leading black Panther radicals-
is it cow state,
that any may bring me to people like Warden Churchill,.
This being even bring me to people like Peter singer who says I'm sorry, I said you could kill you urge to your born child until they were too.
I shouldn't put a time on that score.
Talk to me about tainting your blessing university. You
worked with you. Ve worked with the worst of the worst you,
Have promoted and
the end and
cleansed clean terrorists from other countries terrorist from our own countries.
Those people who now work for tromp. Well, that's
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What are you doing? A very good idea
Let me tell you man, you know you earlier you're talking about how you know, people wondering what they would stand up for what they were.
Guy foreign than what they believe in and coupled with courage.
You know why we
now I hear that frustration in your voice, man and eyes. Why? Let you know four people
me you
art in tackling all the people
in a really bad way and really helping people. Like me answer
those questions? Man, you know little personal data be really quick. I'm gone
doesn't really our personal jobs right now. I've been listen.
You're about to have years now. Man,
again, you have really helped me to figure out who I truly am add when
kind of answer those questions from myself. Who am I what I would die for that really
back me and really Todd ways, I tell me be a better father and a better
no partner hedge
Are you going to? Let you know man, you you, you really up a lot of people out, and is it really
it means a lot man, you know and again I hear frustration your voice. Sometimes I haven't we avenue and I feel the same way man it's by that bad,
everything is getting and- and everybody knows that
things are heading in a very negative way. That is
also making people like me who we know in the positive way. In all the other p, all the good guys are doing in their groups, all the lines being drawn. You know and
people are really answering the questions like it going on with Jordan Peter said a day reuben and everything Life
people are waking up to
but they believe in and what they stand for. You know like that
we acknowledge bad things are happening or negative things are happening to us. Well, it's also.
Very positive. Things are happening as well. People, unfortunately lighter being drawn people are going to foreigners, but for the good
for the people who really you know, stand on
clarity and truth and love and compassion. You
for me. I have been very, very influential in that and again man just keep always remember that always remember that mega every time like this,
the time when the guy who came on you don't get it. You know we gonna put you back, and I am I made
a ten year. Five to events in the marine corps. Adele would alcoholism Peter continually deal with all my inner demons and you are
absolutely right man as soon as you start becoming, though, that you would stand again,
it consumes you, the anger, frustration all that,
assumes you and you torreons this thing that you are just trying to fight, and I know that
don't hard, especially for guys like like me,
no more, the veterans and and and and alcohol addiction the people more than broken guys, like that's a hearty
Think of swallow. You know bite you
our older millennial, men and man, I'm thirty, two,
there was a shoulder, and you know I mean I'm a badly tattooed on you know, I'm the guy that you would think looks like the dual who began pushed around people. We know, but I'm not an
I'd like to do with you and you know,
That's it, I'm a better man for it, because I know what I would die for. I know who I am. I know, what might principles are. You know,
Because, again, you have challenged me over and over again on men. Do I believe that do I feel that way? How do I really feel? Why do I think that you know what I mean and has a lot to do with you rather than just is always remember that man? Thank you. I can't tell you how much your phone call means to me. So thank you
for that, and you have given me a few
to fly on for a while. Thank you
sincerely.
I will tell you as a personal note, that term I
This is probably too much to say here in him about a minute, so I'm gonna have I've, got thirty, seven
so I'm not get started.
Anna, save it for a another day, but perhaps tomorrow a longer conversation of fur of where
think we are
And where I think we are going,
and I only say that as a wee, because that's where I met and where I'm going, and I would like to invite you to come along the journey with me, we'll talk about them coming days,
one of the programme, there's a new pull out and its causing a slight disturbance here in the studio of how warmly amiss
Dickens feel towards Doll drum,
just opening, specifically least
typically surveyed Republicans, who mould form. In fact,
went to the trouble and no survey. That's done this before they act.
Went to the trouble of verifying that these people voted form.
So they serve aid trump fans to find out whether out there still trump fans and
Probably not surprise you to know that eighty two percent of them are, they still have warm feelings, are very warm feelings form, but to what his head mean warm feeling. That was the question you see. I interpret that is well. For instance, I always had warm feelings for George Bush, but he pissed me off who I didn't always and warm feeling form at the end. I had pretty
Yeah! No, I went, I delete feelings for me, yeah I did and then I went and met with him and I felt warm of the warmly about him as a person, but I still disagreed with his policies
I just didn't change me on how I felt about policies, but I
damn as a human being
and so you know you can like, for this is probably not helpful,
I don't like Donald Trump as human being. He would not be
a friend I mean
you know, even if he was glad you're the best you're the grades, he would not be my friend he asked Anti was like that at one point: yes, he wasn't my friend. He wasn't differently would call me and I'd be like ok, that was weird creepy. What was that about hung up foam
though he wouldn't be my friend cause. I don't like him. I felt like his lifestyle is this: we just don't we're not compatible. Neither Sergei he's not he's got a guy who necessarily run in the Glen Back circles by the way. Also move up, there's a lot of people who wouldn't know male sports fans yeah
with the imo. James Elles, you you are: we get the people, you don't like the opera get the boy, ok you're! So I mean I know, I'm friendless doesn't mean a lot, but that doesn't have anything to do with how I view is policy, how I viewed him before the election
the guy, who I didn't trust. I didn't like, I didn't think he was a good character and
I didn't because of that I didn't believe a he would
any of the things he said he would do.
Now new information,
he is that I'm surprised me on some of the things that characterise not there's nothing new there
but what he said he would do he's done a lot of them and
I didn't think you would so good. I feel
I feel great about those things, but that doesn't change my warmth of him. Am I just being too NIT picking here and the word warmth adjusting its a weird thirty warriors: why did they use that I've ever heard that used in a pole? I mean he's just a scale of how much you like the guy. It's just another way to measure the his approval ratings and they just did it on a scale of zero to one hundred and if so, if you're over fifty one. That starts the warm this
And I was just I I don't know where I would,
he's the only guy. I think that not only do my feelings for him change
on a daily basis. I sometimes hourly mediated by the minutes. Tired I've seen you at times gone. I man, I walk through a wall, a fire for him right now, I'm so mad it mainly it's not mad at the press, the way their guiding they push towards Russia. There is no question about that. Men then he's does a great things like really brave things. No other president is done like me.
King Jerusalem, the
place of the: U S embassy and yeah, and then he sped along that process. When initially they said he, I will do it at the end of a year and then that wasn't even good enough. He actually spend along, they found a place and they moved on it. It's pretty amazing
and then other days.
When northern rat poison yeah, it's just
it's difficult, but they say, like
one in five voters, probably
Five of his voters have turned on him to a certain extent. I
experience that ever
Do you guys? I don't hear from people who say yes
I can, but now I dont weathers, I think they're remember its people who voted for me. So there were a lot of people who were just like. I just can't you know: that's not gonna Hilary, it I'm gonna go third party saw go with tramp and can help their nose and maybe those some of those people have fallen off and I don't even know I dont know. If people want to say that because then you feel like you're part of the you know get
crowd, because you know you have to be labelled right
I mean there are labelled so amazing. I was labelled and anti tramper, which
I never said I would never have almost never driver, never trumpet
no. I was there was never trump in twenty. Sixteen, I am open to new information.
Now what we said from the beginning that really getting what you know if he turns out to be the first to say- and I did so
I was never never tramper and I'm not a pro tramper, I'm just
citizen, his leg- I don't owes you doing a good job. Are these good
so the country or bad things for the country. It is this out way. This bad thing outweigh this good thing. Is it
I think that I can change or we can change. No ok. Well, let's keep moving whether know what we're supposed to do. I thought so needs interesting, though I think maybe your
hesitation with that pole, because the world word warmest almost signifies an emotional attach me yes right like,
people have one to him, and I
that's true. I think I think you're right. It's driving that even more for all the good and the bad of the trunk presidency. The one thing I think we
totally everybody can come together on. This has been a very emotional time for a lot of people. Young people are either a very emotional about him in support and against, and I dont think that should really apply to a present. I don't you should almost never that's a proper aid like theirs. It there's a colossal personality. That's what happened with with Barack Obama his called followed him would not accept anything bad about him.
Stoned to death? Anybody who said wait a minute hang on. Let's, let's talk about this for a second, you are calling him a liar which makes you a racist, and it was all emotion and on our side, a lot of it was emotion because they would just an I deny denied, and I call you all kinds of names in your look: beers pissed off now the reverse.
Now the other side is so emotional.
And so they just can't believe how people could be this crazy and not, and they don't realize, wait a minute. We just saw this in reverse. You should learn your
actions are only making things worse
You know where the vast majority of a real emotional connection for the country to a president was George W Bush after nine eleven member. He got to a point where he had taken.
Eighty six percent of Democrats approving his job performers aid- that's not a thing where they actually agree with his policies or even agree services.
Quickly with the things he was doing when it came to the war on terror and any like that, it was just like we gotta come.
There? I love our country were under attack and it was an emotional sort of
you coming together for a very short period of time.
And now it's it seems to be incredibly emotional on both sides.
With very few people making individual data day distinctions on whether this he's doing a good thing with ex wires policy gets its,
Not see me was wearing the conversations what they did to Reagan on steroids. Now
You know who this is like this in Reagan they just there were some in the press that just could never admit anything good. But
you can see the decay of thee
The press, just by this,
Reagan was elected by the so called Reagan. Democrats and everybody talked about it. There's these democrats, these democratic voters who used to always vote democratic. They went with Ronald Reagan, twin
g per cent of Donald Trump space. Twenty percent are
Emma people who voted for Barack Obama at least once many of them twice.
That's not counting the that's, not counting the Senate campaign had says. President twenty percent were Obama. Democrats, the press,
Never talks about them, never, MR, never its
right, it's the Republicans, it least with Reagan they
at least willing to diagnose the problem. Wait a minute, there's a problem in the Democratic Party there,
appealing to these people,
you're, not saying anything about that twenty percent
Are you willing to say that twenty percent of the Democratic Party was raised were racist against
people, people who voted for forward
Obama, once or though some of them twice, that there were some our another racist Elvis and other work, namely Cnet before two's large amounts of the african American Community and Democrats who voted enough for banning gay marriage in California when that past and
Then there's never discussion about those people know it's much easier. Dollar largest segment of people have voted for was appropriate. Yahoo were black.
That was the largest that was alive
this group to vote in favour of project, if I remember correctly,
if those happier
a percentage wise, undersized measure. So let me ask you, Pat on your warm this scale. How would you at your warmest towards Keith, Ellison Exe
four duper high mega high, gives up learning higher, bring announcing enormously hard right, like the advisers at Whitehall. Burning sons like a billion of them, while because I mean he's being- is pretty hot right now he's got a super good job. He was running for attorney general in Minnesota and eyes the middle of a primary and a couple days beforehand. He got accused of domestic violence, singing physical fights with
his long at her over a girlfriend by the long term,
girlfriends son and the girl around the girlfriend, confirmed it and is sharing texts with the media?
Keith, Ellison, still
somehow Wenzel his primary, because he does, of course, because when you're, Democrat and stuff seems that I but
Would you freeze your acceptance like this? If you were key values and I'm curious if this is a good move, pr wise, listen to his celebration last night, very expecting this campaign happen, I want to assure you that we have to keep on fighting grew up. I dont think o my after eared accused of domestic violence and other we're gonna. Keep on fighting is the right verbiage make up a little bit. I got my drag. You had abandoned ahead of us at the moment. I can, if I thought, I'm talking a metaphor- men. If I may. I just I just hate your eradicate, see the dresser there in the bedroom a few times its ease Irene gash. Well, yes, keep is gonna, be apparently so he wanted denomination. Even the nomination, so amazing attorney general and by thy unbelievable leap, it point everybody else's getting fired just from the accusation. The actually winds and election amazing pretty serious accusations to that's in Minnesota right in Minnesota. It's gone crazy, Minnesota, I'm telling you! You know how frank and may be elected God. It's gone having how had to step down because he took a choky picture with a girl like ten years ago in all by media and the guy who high, who is accused of being a domestic abuser. Let's give him the keys to law enforcement. I thank heavens I levitate responses. Half hour its american financing and owning a home really hasn't been easier than it is right. Now you can make an incredible invest investment. It is most likely the largest investment of your life. If you're looking to buy your first home, your last home or just to refinance the people they could give
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Evil Jack Philips
who owns masterpiece, cake shop. This is a guy who's. The guy in Colorado write me if your member, the the cake story, where of course, someone came in, and that was gay and one of their cake for their wedding in he refuse and when all the way to the Supreme Court, he won't make Halloween cakes because, as a guest, his religion, I'm the guy, is consistent all across the board. So goes always Supreme Court. He wins the case. Come
back down now, the one thing we took out of echo's out into the ruling was broad enough and let them one thing. We took that it was the least disguised per rules, at least this guy's protected, at least in his own personal life. It's gets squared away correctly well now
now someone
strands has come into the shop and asked for eight gender transition celebration. Cake was
of course again refuse and is now the same people are coming back after him again to try to punish him again till we get him on a radio tomorrow I mean how does is high
sky, even
get up in the morning and do it
writers. They argue that people who, just coming after there was no there's no on oh wait away.
I'm Fani, I didn't know you, you wouldn't make this K. I do. I know that you work as was done to a political stunt, and this guy's life suitably turned upside down for another two years I mean it just makes you just want to say I've forget it totally just gets thrown out accords. The supreme Court already ruled on this, so hopefully just gets thrown out and you have to deal with it, but will be another manner on the sands. It's awful, we'll see. Hey buddy defies fighting fascism
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