You're listening to the gold digger podcast episode number two hundred and seventy some days. You feel totally in your groove, creating absolute magic and checking things off your big three to do list without hesitation. How their day is you move slower and can't seem to get out of your own way, no matter what tasks are piling up on your plate some days, you feel confident trust in your into in others, you can't even picket breakfast cereal without consulting the internet and your inner in girl appears to make you feel totally awful about it to what, if you could predict those days, what if you could pin wait when you'd be? in the past mental state towards creatively or when you totally be in the zone sharp and focused. Would you Don't believe me if I told you that you actually can today's gas Clare Baker is alive, coach, more specifically she's a period coach. Yes, that's a thing teachers, women how to live in sync with their menstrual cycle. You might were hearing from past guest, Kate, Northrop all

understanding the seasons of our cycle and how it can help us to be more productive. After the episode with Hey my dm spelled out with tags and screenshots. It was a mine glowing revelation, and you made it clear that you want to learn more and understand your cycle even deeper that you could be more productive, better rest and even a little kinder to yourself on your off days, that's why we ve invited com, your baker, on the show shall walk, is through a broader understanding of the seasons of our cycle and then what a deep dive into working with these seasons. An understanding how they can impact is every single day you This is one of my favorite interviews of all time. This is the longest. Shall we ve ever aired, because every single many is jammed, packed with information and inspiration, I am so excited to introduce all the way from Bali, Clare, Baker, Your listening to the gold digger podcast, where we firmly believe that work doesn't have to feel like work self.

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they? So we are in for a tree, especially our female prisoners and dunes? Listen up, because this can help you love the women in your life. A little bit better Aha right. So you are a period, a coach. What is a period coach? How did you become one workers through that story? so period. Courage I work at the basic level. I work with women at the intersection between health and life, coaching and menstrual cycle awareness and my work is? about helping women people with periods live in more flow with the natural them of their body and in a cycle sink back lives up with their very schedule. With you know, the way that they relate with other people, creativity, sexual energy in and just how we are in the well. By being more aware of where we

the menstrual cycle, because I really believe that it is a missing. Key in women's wellbeing and and creative output and So what I do is, I hope, women, whether Hurry Chang one on mine all through the causes I teach online or anything I share online arrived teaching workshops is all about teaching menstrual cycle awareness so that it becomes this tool that we can add to our tool. Kit of circus, strategies of productivity strategies and that way we can reach our goals. We can shop in the world is up ourselves and really use our period. These menstrual cycle to be the fullest, vespasian fuel so that's that's what I teach. And this work in my maid twenties. I where it began. I've been on that contraceptive pill for a contraceptive pill for a decade and

a lot of young women, I started taking it in my teens because to me it was acme that got me started taking the pale right. I had really battlemented lack me, so I started the pill and then, of course, I got older and started having sex. It just made sense to stay on it and, to me. It was super convene an I loved being on the pill and loved that could orchestrate my cycle. I could my period for months, I wanted to an elderly happy on it in time about twenty five call. This time my life, my quarter, life crisis, where I decided questioning everything I really was a job that likes by. I didn't really love. I was a bit over the party saying in drinking everywhere canned and data

guys who are in a really that aligned with- and I just felt like there was this creative energy in me that I wasn't using and I did know where my life was headed. All of that, I think a lot of people experience that around twenty five views mark and said to me. I just made some better choice. And so I started to sing a girl. I learned how to meditate eyes at journaling again with just something I really love to do. When I was younger and Those choices that I made was decided to call the contraceptive I've been living a lot about nutrition and a more holistic live and I did start to feel a bit out of alignment be taking hormones every day, so I thought fine I'll come off it and see what happens and and for me, nothing happened in the sense that

a year after I stop taking homeowner contraceptive. My period didn't return at all, so I had this twelve months of waiting for my body to believe again I realised as I was waiting, I knew nothing about my menstrual cycle I didn't even really know what I was waiting for him nothing. I didn't know that I have been suppressing population for ten years. I didn't know that I was waiting for that to come back, for I could get a period and so I am a little bit I don't buy. That really does in to your understanding, my hormones and my underground system and learning about our relation and what the signs of that were and how I could best support my body to so find its natural rhythm again and I am really grateful now in hindsight that that happened to me, it also came along with a p

Theo S, supposes Dick ovarian syndrome, diagnosis and, ultimately, really intense period, pain and premature symptoms. Let my psycho did returns. I certainly well, then Smith Start, but in our never is often does it. And am grateful because it meant that I was ready when my period did come back was really ready to start to chart and to begin to track. To get to know these different if my cycle that I've been reading about learning about and and just ready to apply this information, at the same time is all of this was happening, also studying training to be a health coach. Beginning to say, clients and working with women and my experience once my sock overturned was that this very dear friend, experienced being on the pill. For me, it was very obvious right away that tremendous menstrual cycle was a very different experience to appeal cycle, and

I realise that they were phase is one I fell more confident and why I felt more resilient Marshall more focused and there were definitely phases, where I found out more doubtful and self critical and of, and so it became really clear to me that the way I approached my errand of care and my creative projects was going to need to change so naturally has a began working with clients. It became natural part of the conversation because I was curious to know it did other people experience this as well, and so it made sense to me that before each session, for example, I would ask my plans are you in your menstrual cycle like what day you on and we sought to chart and track? So, as we were talking about software, nutrition and move man and creative projects on everything. That comes with health and life carried Chang. Looking forward making plans working towards gulls,

that we will also use the menstrual cycle framework in the approach, because at that time I mean this was Twenty thirteen didn't really see Anybody else doing mass all. I could see when I looked at women's magazines where these weekly diet plans and very Linnea approach to health and well being, and it made no hence to me. I knew that some weeks I could go to the jam and I could like smasher five kilometre p or I would lift heavy, awaits and feel really strong in my body and then the next week, the energy wouldn't will there be more inclined to want to just go to your girl, prefer nice walk in the park and to learn, its myself, that that was ok and that what I had been disconcerted, didn't see. I guess that I've been striving for all these years, actually unable to let go of that because my body was on a psycho, it wasn't the same weight to wake and able to explore that with my

and so early on. In my work as a health and life coach was such a gift and and that's really how it began, it started something that was, I guess this is added side thing to my work, but it probably wasn't until he was always a part of my work with clients, but a problem. Wasn't until few is in that I am working with women that I really stepped into a that ten period: courage and and really dedicated the body, my body of work, HU. This area had some resistance around that actually didn t really like t like them. When he talks about periods and once I did that, then things really grew and expanded ends, and it's only continued from there. I am so passionate about spreading this message that we move on a psycho. When not linear, bangs and actually

a learning how to work with that and flow with that convey, transformative and create such deeper reserves of well being is more sustainable way. To live in it for me and for many of my clients it creates this feeling of some the authority, like you are in charge of your life, because you know who you are on every single day of your psycho and you make the best decisions for you in accordance to that, and you know you best and yeah yeah that's what I do in and that's how that too. I am today able I love it. This is so fascinated me in it's crazy to me as not really aware these different phases of our cycle, like I had never even thought about it like when we went through our efforts, your fertility struggle three years ago is winning Ernie tracking my cycle in paying attention. But can you walk as through what the phases are that we go through each month, kind of what that psycho looks like in just the differences exist

differences because I really resonated when you are talking about the difference between wanting to work out hard then you know, go more inward walkest through what those look like for us absolutely. So I think one of them common misconceptions about the menstrual cycle. Is that a cycle is but my bleeding when we have period, remonstrating right and then the rest of the time is just kind of the same, and that certainly what I thought, because when you are common or countries that nazi experience, so to me, shocking that my body changed as much as it did so. There's food from phases in the menstrual cycle and the way that I teach these phases. Is by lining the mob with the citizens of the year, because it makes a lot of sense to people why we understand that in twelve months were going to mercury for different seasons and those season of the year, are going to be different and that something that man or woman menstrual cycle or not, we understand and I'll cycle. The menstrual cycle

lines up in the same way, which is brilliant, Sir also with winter, and this is menstruation. This is one where were bleeding and we have a period and just like this, season of the year when TAT. This is often a time that we really most like to just stay at home code? inside maybe with a hot chocolate, is taking it easy being possibly more reflect is a lot of women here. Your mind to it is, as a real sense of saying with yourself here administrate can, and I like to think of this phase, cycle as being like a big red

set times like you, pressing this big red reset button and similar to winter ride. When we know that feeling of the end of the year, the year comes to an end or in winter, and then we begin a new year, and there is this feeling of of re setting and looking back on the past. Cyclists is something I loved her. Here's looking back on the path cycle setting myself, up for the new cycle, so humans are at their absolute lowest here administration and its natural to to feel the effects if that to feel a little slower to not have a pig energy that's really normal your body is going through a quite an intense physiological process of release. In the uterine lining from the past cycle, combined with the fact that home means lower. They will begin to climb a few days in, but there at their lowest and so it's really normal and some women. This is a gorgeous time. I've just been

to be with themselves load up on self care, like, I said, crashing reset button sitting intentions for the new cycle that is coming Looking ahead, this is a great time to do some planning. I really love to do my best planning here and really receiving some clarity for others. It can be really tough, because my experience quite intense period pain they might be conflicting Sean's here for them, You are struggling with its activity on that journey or those being passed. Miscarriage can be reception. Trauma around lack view, a time of road grave and it can be really difficult, so varied for an hour we experienced menstruation, and it can be a lot of grief that comes up here and so, yeah. It's important to pay attention to how this time is to you, because it is really powerful and it often is Thomas Feedback. So how you feeling administration is important to pay attention to that. So that's how winter, once we

at least that past cycle and, as I said, homeland began to climb estrogen, increasing, hair and estrogen is one of the family sex hormones that can help us to feel really great, basically estrogen. It can help us to feel more focused. It can help us to feel more confident and it begins climb, maybe Randy three of the cycle. So it's just say day. One is that first day of full blood flow, the first day of your period, sort of around it. Three might start to feel like all a I'm back, you know. There's a couple of days can sort of wife is right, then then, like a cool, I consuming energy increasing. This is good and around eighty five or six, you begin to then move into your spring phrase spring again like the season of the year. We all know that feeling when the days are getting a bit longer, the blossoms are out on the trees. It feels excellent from most of us. This is a phase of this

Oh, it's really easy to love, actually ways out of that period Cave way by July. Back out into the world, does assent during my meant him here, and so I really love to think up projects here by taking action on things that are I have received clarity on in my inner winter. So you my winter phase, where I'm resting chilling out a little bit making it easy. Then to my sprang and I'm back in the game now it's time to start, to move things forward again and to take action and for a law of women that I work with this is when they can be very productive and guerrilla dawn and and the clock focused We have this increase of estrogen, hair and estrogen is building up two of regulation and population is what occurs in the summer phase of our cycle. So if we think of the circle, exotic administration at one side of the cycle- and then you

but our relation sitting on the other side there, like the two poles of the cycle, is two points of release. Mention nation, where releasing blood and regulation everything an egg spring this transition seas and its taking us between that winter and summer. So a building up to something here is like inhale the cycle. We build up to some arm again, for some women still brilliantly still excellent. They love that feeling of being back and the well being productive. Getting things done. Taking things off like to do list is no problem here and the others it can feel quite vulnerable, particularly if The signal, if there's any conflict about where to direct or channel this energy. This is something I say quite a lot if somebody isn't shore about what their purposes or who they are in the world or what they want to create that can make this conflict here in the spring, because, as always,

energy building, but where does it go and so it can become, can feel quite egg overwhelming a little bit of anxiousness can surface here. If there isn't a guess and boundaries he's in the sand, men around where these energies going to go so again paying attention is going to really If you to understand, if this is where you- at home in the spring phase, or possibly, this is a more vulnerable phase for you we get to summer and summer is, as I said well, my avi lady, and this is the third tile phase in the menstrual cycle and not can apply if you're looking to conceive or not, of course, but also its fertile in the sense that we can do racks- is energy here, this creative energy into our jack's into our relationships into ourselves. It really is the peak of the industrial cycle hormonally, but also the pig

for a lot of women in the sense that they really feel like they are superwoman here and name like taken my cape and put it on, and if there is a phase that you, and actually be everything to everyone and get everything done than this is probably going to be, because that Hate inclines fails off them. Yeah it's time. It's a great time for a lot of people. I personally love my summer. I feel really at home here. I love the increase in libido. I feel here I love them extra, and then I feel here, Sir I'm not chewy caught introverted, that this is a phase. This is the big phase where I am. I can really work those that extra version and feels great feels really great Cindy, Is this some affairs? It's definitely about being seen its saying. Yes, it's about yeah.

Really being out and the well, it's not a time to plan, so he says this is something I see all the time when my clients of venom of law, everything man, you say yes to everything, that's the energy of the summer. I it's in the gaelic the season of the year. We just want to be at the world, one being people well, Sir Short, those good. This is definitely not the time to plan, because our guarantee, you you well over command. You will ever schedule and give it away call sir and you're going to be wishing you had an have said yes to that extra dinner Dave of Outbreak this meeting this week. Is God, sir? No? No no planning happened to the woods Up in the air is extremely. Celebrating yourself and enjoying this peak in homer is enjoying. You know what you ve brought to life. We ve created in this first half of the cycle, because

as things are right to change- and we are about to shift into this since the second half of the cycle, which is the autumn- and this is the- progesterone, dominant half of the menstrual cycle. So estrogen has us feeling like we are superwoman natural potential pregnancy, so this progesterone rises after population just in case we have conceived rises after ovulation, just in case we can save tonight to this potential pregnancy, the stay at home with a blanket homer, and it makes us all really cosy, sparing not sharing and its. It can increase feelings of sensitivity. It can definitely makers, no more reserved a clue. Just wanna come back in towards ourselves again:

and if you think about ought in the season of the year that makes sense to if we look at it that way, we can see now in her purse. Some other leaves falling from the trees and where were coming back in again, where cooking of slow elsewhere, having I hot warm drinks by the fire with a blanket, a rug top like that really is the energy of the autumn, and so for a lot of people. You know you feel that shift quite significantly. Afterward asian areas. This drop in physical energy of generic. This feeling of actually does to be more alone of needing to set. Hungary's and and for some people, All this can be really hard. If were somebody he's very at harm in that superwoman energy, and we are that say where I'm although say we ve got a great deal of response.

Billy- managing a team at work, but they were in partnership with somebody else with responsibilities, and we want to be able to show up for the people in our lives and for all yeah for those that we love end and that can feel very conflicting when actually there is now a need to actually come back in and take care of ourselves So we had that time of being there for others, and now it's it's very much about coming back in towards us, I was an reflecting, so this autumn phase is very much about being reflective its about editing it's about. Looking back on the cycle that we ve just been through in taking stock of what words what did and were accorded we bring to life. What fell right? You know what then feel so great and is taking a moment, be reflective. This can run fast as serious self criticism, though, and so we ve been really mindful of that line, because I say so often this self doubt that

arise here that convey really debilitating. If we don't have this menstrual cycle awareness, his consciousness of what's going on. So it's ok to be reflective and to look back butts, being really mindful that we don't step into being overly self critical here, because this is when many of my clients tell me they would love to just throw all, and you know how, in the job, to throw away the merry run away to the Far EAST and never come back, because it's all too much and it's out your heart and- and I get it I really do get out. We experienced such a change in our hormonal landscape here and so many women we haven't. Spain condition to taken proposals and to listen to our needs. Our own wants and our emotions- and this is what this phase all about us- really important to be really mindful here of how that autumn, that pre minstrel wake manifesto,

kiss you happy mistral symptoms are a real and very often what I have found is that if we take lots of space- and we I'm really listen to what those feelings of these new changes or those physical symptoms are telling us is actually a lot of it. Right there, and this is an israeli preparing us to step back down into menstruation. So it's brilliant that we don't go from ten zero. We don't go from obligations straight to, because that would be hurried back to go from the peak of the cycle back. You know them that means that bleeding again, when we have this week to prepare- and it's the shifting of game as you know, is shifting those gives down was slowing down we're taking stock and aware finding ourselves again as that progesterone two kinds, once progesterone production halts then will be demonstrate again and that takes us back into our winter and the cycle begins,

again, oh my gosh movement. And as long I have so many wise. This is so ugly, I'm dying to know. Ok, first, are each of the seasons about a week long like I know some of the timing is kind of interesting, but for most swim man- I know- cycles- are between- like twenty eight to thirty one days. So if we were starting to kind of dig into this little bit more, Would you say that the seasons are about a week long for each season If you have a menstrual cycle, that's, as you say, you're on twenty eight thirty one days than the short answer is yes, there will be around about a week, but it can definite. We changed cycle the psycho woman to woman. Sometimes you might feel like you're winter, a little bit shorter and even to spring earlier other times. He might feel if you ve got a short some on a really long autumn, so they can change

if we just going to start with the basic framework than what say yes, as about a week dedicated to each citizen? Okay, so that so helpful, so let's say now we're all all of us women collectively. Hundreds of thousands of women are listening to this and we're all like excited to get our cycle, so we can start identifying these seasons, give any tips on like how to kind of start approaching this method, Absolutely first thing again to remember: is that day one is that, first day of food blood flow, say some women experience a bit of spotting before they period starts. That's not that's not day one day, one is when you have that full of blood and from there it's just. A matter of counting each day so that there is a one. Next they will be a day to the next year will be a day three,

and what's really com is that in the last few years there has been a huge increase in cycle tracking apps. Sorry somebody who knows and apps going to work for you brilliant get an app. The sun men find one that works for you and just start using and sought tracking and start to pay attention this. Measures cycle awareness is really about, is mindfulness practice, really it's about checking in every day and night, every day, I really do actually mean that, because what I've known is that kind of get fired cool amnesia its omens if You can't even really remember how you felt last week, because it was so in the cycle that I found those track daily, get far greater deep inside, because you forget right now, for example, on Wednesday Day, eleven and so on,

in this spring energy right now, I'm in not transition season on building up to a relational Abiola. In a few days I have this really lovely in grace and energy are feeling more confident, I'm feeling all sexual and feeling you now want to be out in the world, but into weeks time I'm going to feel free to really remember right now exactly how it feels that aids- and you know it's that daily tracking. They can be as simple as just making a couple of notes in an app it might simply be one or two words that you write down, that caps, how you feel something that I just as using the four body sir. By that I mean your physical body to energy like what are you craving? How do you feel physically, what going on for you mentally. What is now one of the quality of the thought you're having what's happening for you, mentally,

Surely what are you feeling what's coming up for you in your heart? and spiritually. And how connected do you feel to yourself? How connected do you feel to nature something greater than you are? What does that mean for you, so those for physical mental amount non spiritual. I'm going to give you even more depth, information and those who already have a journaling practice, something that I recommend is just adding new cycle day next to the date. So this is what I do so I just admin I could day next to the date and Miss such a brilliant way to look back and fine patterns, because this is what you're going to discover is that, while there is certainly inconsistency within one cycle like I said we change week to week day today, however, you will notice over time over a few cycles quickly. Actual probably that there are patterns and Sir being able to just flick back and safe made today on Monday eleven. Oh look back later today when I'm,

my journaling at trace of the day and I'll have a look and say how did I feel honoured eleven last, how did I feel a couple of seconds ago and most of it I am I realize I felt exactly the same. I do so. It really is finding a method that works for you and that's the key, Why is it has to be realistic and asked me something that will fit in with your life? within the realities of your life, does need to be something that you do most days and make it a simple as you need No one ever told you that running a business. Might you suddenly had to fill a million roles from me A masterful emails hamlet, rider to a photo editor, a graphic designer to a social media, strategists not dimension, actually working with paying glides yeah. Nobody told me that either way

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on my website, afraid shot to that depend to paper. Just circular Charta captures one full cycle and that's another method that I haven't used for time. Actually, I prefer my journal now by a lot of my clients of people in my courses really love that circle chop, because you can see the cycle, then an ad in every day. So it's a free resource that I have on my website. If anybody would like to start to play with the pen to pay the method amazing I used and EVA Bracelet four years so after our miscarriages it took a wild, My cycle back- and I was never really that interested in it. I didn't really pay attention to it. I hate in my time of the month and then when I started like plugging it, in seeing data every day, it was so interesting to me like seeing just even the change in body temper like physiological changes like How I was sleeping like there are so many things out play that made me look at it in a totally different way, and it was just

something to me, whereas, like, however, I never considered this, and now you are just breaking it down in an even like more fascinating waits, amazing the others bracelets, I'm really cool, I haven't tried VON by I've head as you ve just shed. I've had some really grateful back on them and for me it was, I think too, a little bit when you are talking about winter and how it can bring up like pass trauma. I got like emotional when you're talking about that, because for me when I was when we are trying to get pregnant again, peeing on though strips felt emotional, weird emotion, tied up in pregnancy, test and so there is some weird emotion tied up in tracking just obviously, she's in that method, because it felt like either a successor affair you're, which is so weird to even sum up in speech, but for me having that bracelet took that that feeling out of it, because it wasn't a success or failure was more of like yours. What's going on inside of you, so I know it's not a method,

for everyone. But for me, when you are talking about the PTSD of even getting your cycle, that's absolutely so real, but even in just the methods of tracking I feel like there is a lot of them. She tied to it that people just don't even really talk about which is so interesting to me, absolute lay. And ah I am glad that you mention aunt JANET because something that I've noticed inclines. I've worked with you are trying to conceive. Is that this man fuel cycle awareness approach of looking at it dislike taking as your mouth and yes, it is definitely about conception can bay. If that's, what is you know your primary intention? But if we also Could it from the creative perspective. All from you know that waiting perspective, all from just exploring HU. We are getting to know your the changes in your personality over the whole cycle and exploring minstrel secular whenas. From that perspective, then the conception

Hot is certainly still there, and this is only going to assist you in your intention to can save, but it does take some of the pressure off as well because there's this curiosity like who am I to contain, and one would do, I really need what self care started. It would really help me in my autumn phase, for example, in somewhat I've noticed again and again, is that it it helps to relieve some of the intensity and that pressure bye, bye being able to use menstrual cycle awareness as a tool that you can use to get to know yourself and, as I said earlier, energy really be the best version of IE. In the world it is about your conception journey, but it also becomes about some thing else, which I have seen really benefit a lot of women. I love that so I'm curious about this, so we just went to the doktor for, like my post delivery check up and she asked me what kind of birth?

droll. Do you want to go on or have you thought about that walk me through that, because I am I don't want to go back on birth control. I like the way I feel like paying attention to the natural Nyssa my cycle. So how does birth control impact, these phases and seasons of our cycle, So what birth control does is it essentially support the population now that's a pretty broad statement, because there are so many different kinds of breast cancer. And they do work in somewhat different ways- and it's very complex but essentially what's happening- is that you're taking her that will suppress population and it creates almost like, I guess, a monopoly, like state in the body we ve got these very linear low levels of birth, estrogen, progesterone to these hormones that I was describing earlier, that ebb and over and tremendous recycle. If you can

just imagine them just flat. Liming that's more some to the harmonious variants of being on birth control, and Ultimately, this means you not having an increase in in Esther genuine, not having an increase in Luton, icing, homer and which is what supports of relation and when evaluating and that's how we don't get pregnant Manuel on birth control because there's no release of an egg. So ultimately there is no possibility, can save there's no, increasing progesterone, so there's no homeland that also nurture potential pregnancy. Basically what's happening is there's just no room menstrual cycle, a if you're, not taking those pills? Oh you're, taking this shook appeals, then you'll experience and withdraw blade, so you'll still have more can feel like a period you'll have that release of blood and when she had taken the humans again, then you again you just in this.

What line for those three weeks now, many women tell me that they still feel my thanks. Variants the citizens when they are taking common contraception and Britain. The number one roll with this work is always what ever you feel is is true You know were also different. It is impossible to say exactly how this is going to affect the way we experienced the cycle. And I do use in workshops quite a lot that somebody come up to the end and I'll say come on movement of contraception and I shouldn't be feeling they season, but they really resonate with me and I think excellent others tell me that they feel like they might experience one season all of the time. Often, that season is autumn. Many women tell me they feel like they just kind of in this permanent or from bays and such really different for everybody, and it's it's difficult to give a clear answer to that one, because it is definitely,

that charting and any can still chart lawyer taking homeowner contraception. Absolutely again, this is mindfulness practice its away for you to get to know yourself, so it certainly of benefit to chart, but you won't like clays, luckily that you weren't experience those those forward, in two phases simply because you bodies ovulating, and that really is a key factor in experiencing all four of those faces. Ok, so I have a selfish is only about my. So I am nursing a baby right now, so I have not got my period back after delivery. So am I going through the seasons or do I dare say that I'm excited to get my period bag just start paying attention to what we ask is cool. I haven't had a child yet sir. I can speak to this from pesticides

so what I've heard from many high end is that lets? Take it right back, two conception. So almost as if tremor still one becomes a winter like a really long winter phase end, doesn't resonate with you. I mean oh, my gosh While I was on extra progesterone because of our fertility issues and my winter was awful and it was very long and I think when you are describing progesterone and the effects it as thinking about being on extra. I actually went through like depression in my first trimester which is not normal for me at all and so. Yeah yeah, I mean, makes sense. As well as best twelve weeks of the more vulnerable point in a pregnant and it is often about us wanting to light really be with this. You know this cunning men, that's going inside of you and us wanting to be in a very protective,

the people that we ve conceived in that first, the first twelve weeks, sir. It makes sense to me the idea of this winter phase, their trimester too often when a lot of the face their trimester too often when a lot of women do feel that increasing energy, this great scheme, great hair, feeling more energetic, you're telling people about Agnes aid being more engaged with the external world. Again, that's that spring Energy coming through their interests are too Some are some energy. Maybe someone my transition into the around Kosovo from terminal, two to trimester three but for some women. I've heard can feel like that summer. Energy stays with you right up until birth. They feel in a really strong resilience and maybe there's a sexual pagan energy as well caught creative,

others tell me they feel they move into an item in the weeks prior to birth. Does this energy of light running to really rap things up and get things finished, which is definitely equality of the pre menstrual week is like trying to get things Phoenician, wrapped up and tidy sum up around the house. It's like the one way the psycho, I'm cleaning, my French out and sorting out my Paypal can link everything's Heidi here. Is you know what a lot of women experience priest so pre bath? Is this feeling of just wanting to get things wrapped up? until then, once you passed, then there is from what I hear in that purse moving into or him or even a winter. Energy in be with your child, there is this again that leading to just be with you. Child and nurture yourself and release against what we say

lying at home or end and being a protective shield, he'll, never you and Bob, and that can feel like unreal. The extended autumn. Until you begin to and started again for others. It control more, like you know, a winter, a winter season What would you say? What do you feel like you're in right now, yeah, I mean the way you're describing office. It makes total sense to me, and I I think one thing that's coming to mind as your walking through this is, I feel like I was so fear, fall after giving birth about like crashing, and I was really afraid of post partum depression and I did and experience and I feel like I was going through those first few days after birth, like just anticipate

meeting this crash of hormones and for me and never came. However, I know that's not the same for a lot of people, but I think chew because of our journey because of our walk. I think I was just like so grateful that, like oh, my gosh, a baby's here, she's how the everything's good. Maybe I was writing that my, but yes, I resonate to all of those different stages in those cycles and I think right now, as you're describing it, I do feel it in an extended autumn, where my margin in life feels very small right now. So I feel like I more about like family first and then work second and then whatever is left over is where that energy is going, and that's too friendships and things like that, where I feel like I'm in more of, like ah a protective seen yeah. That's definitely sounds like autumn energy to me and- and I think,

misconception about autumn energy. Is that no we can't be productive than or creative, and in fact we know we can, we can deadlock. It can be very powerful time, it's often just more discerning we know is not necessarily about having the energy for everyone and everything we can still direct. You know this incredible energy towards our family was ourselves was a creative projects but you're the boundary of protective NASA just mentioned it like that. If you feeling my energy, that's that's more likely in autumn energy and that's possible, Jan, and that will take you up until when you begin to demonstrate again and then you'll move back ensue into that monthly cycle again, but yeah yeah, through already a great I, that greater cycle has occurred and now you're in autumn hanging out in Seville.

Yeah to remove back onto the menstrual cycle. I cannot believe clear that you have made me excited to get my period a guy like you what you do, I have to affirm you right now, because I do not want this to end. I can I ask a few more questions. This will be the longest river aired, but I don't want this end. This is incredible. What you do can absolutely transform the way that women look at themselves look at their body. Is look at their hormones like I just I feel like their such a stigma around all of this that we should be ashamed that we should, you know, hide it like. I. Laugh now when I think of alcohol, we hid tampons of our our coat sleeve, so people wouldn't No, we were on our cycle. I talked to me a little bit about the stigma and how we can do that mindset around, removing it cause. I feel like a lot of this is tied to our minds and our mindfulness give sad,

we yeah having the first thing I do in a workshop with a group of women as we sit down and we talk about our first periods and we felt about that. And what it was like to be a young woman in a body that was changing quite a lot and to start to bleed, and what message is that we receive around menstruation, whether it be from our parents, whether that some friends media But how will we condition to see ourselves and what language we use around menstruation? Do we have? You know like code words fair here yet, instead of just saying I have my period right. Do we not even use any words at all. Is it just like that time of the month we don't even really reference. She say: have we hidden tampons up,

I'll slaves or hidden lakes. Tree towels in trolleys. So that nobody like sees them by we make Hawaii around the supermarket and that is an area we don't do. They wouldn't have these conversations to shame at all, or two to be self critical, it's just about recognising the stigma that exists and how its impact at us and light bulbs just go off around the room. It's like, oh god. Yes, I do have this strange, miraculous, myself like. I know that this is a very not troll and normal and quite miraculous process. That's happening a body every cycle a mean literally in town, entity has high employment, is its work has created like humans? Curl of time and yet

you really daddy about this, I felt really shameful about this. I feel weird talking about it with even the closest people in my life right, sir. We talk about how do we talk about periods with our partners? How do we talk about periods with children and how do we about it with our friends and just not to unravel where some of this might have come from and times it's really clear. It was really the some women. It's really clear that there was a particular conversation that happened when we were fifteen is all that has is forever implanted itself in our consciousness and has made us feel like daddy a weird about having a period and for others and myself included. A girl in a really body, positive flag- I guess period positive house my mom was really open about this stuff with me, I still have I still had a lot of stuff to unravel around menstruation I was very private eye,

didn't tell my mom when my period started. I didn't really talk with my friends about it very much. We just didn't really talk about it, and so I think that its sometime times it's very clear aware that Sigma has come from but other times it's just so deeply ingrained in our culture and in the world that we live in a mean even the fact that we just don't say if you go and buy a minstrel products in the supermarket. There are no minstrel products. It actually display. On the packaging what's inside, there might be an illustration, but they want bay, a graphic image If you buy anything else, you can see what's inside, but you know you don't see the pad or the tampon. U turn actually see the port us that your butt, We don't have in school, rules workplaces, often free minstrel products or the ability to purchase,

in Bosnia is. We have condoms. We have perfect. We have million other things deodorant lip clause that we'd have menstrual products. We don't even really have that many minstrel products options, if you think about it, Brian like in the last one hundred years we have seen technology just exploit our world, and innovation is in us all industries, but I think there's probably for maybe five. If you stretch Chet menstrual product, and its hidden, it's really hidden, is its very hidden part of our lives, and it weird when you think about it like that, because fifty percent of the world at some point in their life went straight. It's insane blow. I feel like I need to like after we talk. I think I need to unpack like, like you said, the different signals we ve created in our lives. Are the different beliefs evade around this and just keep

I ask myself why? Why? Why? Why why to get to the bottom of it, because I think it is very complex in it, it can go back to our first experiences are what we ve been told her, what the media tells us or what you know, what kind of shame we felt around it: or the anticipation or the failure that hope, like theirs just so deeply ingrained within us. It's kind of crazy, it is I once you start to once you start to unravel at I this is a gold. You know this sir much gold here it is in connected to survive early date, parts of a few. We and, as I said, certainly is the trauma and a great deal of healing can occur when we start to do this unravelling and sausages gently by Russia, his gently look back and have a think about what was going once a year when you began to blade, know who were,

you damn all kinds of things were drawn to. This is something my immense Alexander talks about. Is this power awakening within you when you begin to men straight and we're not told that in now certain coach. I of indigenous cultures, will will it's like this moment of initiation into womanhood, so what Who were you at that time, as your body began, to blade what kind of woman way becoming more interested? You have what creative projects we drawn to a hobby city have sought to just go can I get my guess is similar to a lot of in a child work that happens in psychotherapy pitcher Having a moment without pot of yourself. It's going back spending some time with fourteen year old, you and that's too? honourable tiring in our lives, as as our homer into changing. We in deciding to bleed and we're trying to figure out who we are in the world and has definitely been a very healing process, made urge you just how

in our share some kindness with fourteen year old Clare who Yeah really struggled at that time, guys. I'm like flashing back. I was really big, gymnast growing up and so I didn't get my period until I was sixteen cause. I was so I saw it egg, but to me I anticipated eggs. Everyone else had gotten nets. I felt like less of a woman cause. I hadn't gotten it, but I also dreaded it. Because then I knew as soon as I started to grow and I got boobs and things I wouldn't be as good a gymnast and so man, I'm guy, got a lot of unpacking to do ass. This, let me tell you, ok. I have one final question before I let you go. Thank you for your extra time, because this is like others. It is so good, so there it's kind of new information like this is a lot of new info for many of us, so give us three key things, that we should know about working with our cycles, if this is brand new,

yes, a k serve. Remember if you have a natural menstrual cycle, any day you we'll be somewhere on that cycle so you're going to be in one of those four seasons, all possibly in a cross server phase, sir somewhere on the menstrual cycle you're going to to be right, and you can start to chart right away that is something you can start to do right away. All you need to do is look back and say where's your day, one. Why must you last period at first? I forgot flyer check in the calendar count forward, that's where you are today. So that's my first it is really you will. Ways be somewhere and you the changing the way you are right now, in a week's time, you probably going to feel different. If you look back a week before today, probably thought differently, I feel today and can be really subtle, for some people are, can be sip. Her found as well we're all in a differ in the way that we show up and the way that Our homelands affect us

The second thing I will mention is again like that: daily checking in just checking in every day finding a system that works for a year and checking in every day to see where you are and to get to know where your natural harm in the cycle is Where do you feel most like yourself? it's completely normal to have some seasons where you fill the most. Like yourself and where your strengths, William superpowers, are and then but the only way you get to know you know where your seat, completely normal and they can change as well, but We need to take more care with yourself, superpowers be more tender and gentle and set those boundaries and really activate yourself care strategies is I would be more tender and gentle and set those boundaries and really activate yourself care strategies is by those daily check. In so just getting to know where you're seasons are through daily chickens. Another The third thing I would say is that remember that

serious psycho doesn't have to be a burden and says what we ve been taught and actually I can be a gift. It really can bay missing key for you, so for somebody who has in all the personal development tools in the world and all of the wellbeing strategies and plans, and all of us Nation, but finding it hard to integrate because you change. And a lot of what weight or is the treaties that a lot of research in scientific research historically has been on men and a lot of the started jeez that we here in the personal development world, often very muscular very Linnea, and so it's ok. If something, if there's been some inconsistency for you, but this sickly the more I can really be the missing key in your well weighing in your creativity in productivity, in your relationships and that Self Authority pace in her you get

to know who you are on every single day of your cycle and how you change anything news that information to be. You know the person in your life that makes the best decisions for who you are really claim, that of authority. That's what this lack of work can give you. Oh my gosh. Where can everybody learn more about you? I want to ingest everything you ve ever created in your entire existence How can we find you are mine? What is that look like for us? My website, is this: is life blood, dot com and come on in the ground. I am hanging out at Underscore Clare Baker Underscore Instagram, is definitely my favorite social playground. I share lots of daily self care cycle

tips on their have also got a template. Likud checking template- and this is new for you- you can find a daily checking template on Instagram, but over my website you will find that phrase cycle chart that I mentioned you can learn more about any of the online courses that I teach approaching with me and if you are somebody hangs out our facebook, I M there sort of me. I haven't groups my Antonio cycles, if you purchase Maya, Julius Michael E book, I've got a facebook group, that's really active! That is it. Way to share made up of women on a similar journey and my facebook page, is facebook dot com slash. This is life. What thank you so much staying on the line for answering every question and for sharing your heart, I don't I've. I hate to say those that have to do this- is when my favorite episodes ever ever

nah agenda. I'm so yeah. I've loved this charge me with some brilliant questions, and I love the enthusiasm and honesty that you ve brought to this conversation because its story telling that makes such a difference in helping term moves at shame and to have a light, bulb mermaids and I've loved everything. You said about your journey with your cycles and thank you so much for having me on your part gust. Oh my gosh, you guys. This is one of my favorite interviews ever and I've already taken a lot of your day today, but I hope that you agree with me. I just couldn't sought this conversation, it was one that was so necessary and made me dick, even deeper into my own body and my thoughts about menstruation and everything. I mean, dare I say, I'm actually excited to get my period again Clara was an amazing guys. Not only did she explained things in a way that we can all understand, but she gave me hope that again start to feel at friends with my body like

my cycle isn't the enemy and that I can understand the different seasons of my cycle I want to know what you guys are thinking is your mind blown. Did you love this episode as much as I did? Please I'm fine over the Instagram, a gold digger podcast Saint Clair, for her amazing contribution to this show, and let me know what you think swear my mind is blown I have to log off now so that it can start digging a little bit deeper into my thoughts on all of this. I can't wait to start tracking. I hope you're with me, until next time, gold diggers keep on taking your biggest cause, and thank you for hitting play on another episode of the pod guest today, thanks for listening to the gold digger podcast then to the show notes for this episode and all past episodes at W W W dad gold, digger, podcast dot com. If you love the show share it with a friend the more the merrier thanks