Welcome to the nurse podcast four hundred and sixty eight alright, my schedule evened out at midnight is in we're in it now week. Three, I guess this week, I'll Madrigal Rob Huebel, Weird Al Brian, Sean O'Connor, Julie, Klausner, John Daly ratio sands. It's going to be a it's going to be a fantastic weekend at midnight and I'm so happy to have like a regular job that I love like a regular actual daily job, which means that it's free me up a little more schedule wise to start doing the thing but I really should be doing, which is writing more stand up. So I had this idea to start a show at melt. That our space of meltdown twice a month- I guess in the first man, first and third person, third Well, the first one is February 17th and basically the shows called beta test and it's just a way to force me to write new material. So I'm going to have two

comics on the show and will all do twenty minutes and just experiment and just play with the crowd and work stuff out and workshop and and so and the way that you will want to see that because the ticket prices will either be so super low or just free. I gotta figure it out because obviously it still cost money to put a show on a meltdown, and I don't want to completely take advantage of my so it will either be super super super, cheap or just free, so that you're not like oh well. I just sit through ten minutes of a comic trying to find something, but but actually kind of fun, though I mean I like watching that stuff so beta test. The person will be February 17th Monday at nine hundred pm and be myself and Matt Braunger and Jack occasion. So, That's obviously, if you live in LOS Angeles, not I'm, I'm sorry that we're not doing it in your town, we'll have some other dates coming up elsewhere with the prepared material that I

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guys who were around my age or just a little bit older and just seeing if they've figured it out. Yet I haven't. I figured some stuff out but there is a lot to go movie. I Frankenstein and is in theaters Friday January 24th, and it's sort of it's based on a graphic novel that I frank, sign: graphic novel, it's written directed by Stuart it and it's sort of a dystopian era, Frankenstein story, so it looks super cool and we should all go see it together. Alright, that's it! I'm coming to your town and we're going to go see. I Frankenstein This Friday it'll be like a Santa Claus thing. I mean every movie theater at once in a Michael Keaton, multiplicity, style movie, watching experience, here's a nurse podcast, four hundred and sixty eight with air. Cards, god dammit as he charming now entering nowenteringnerdist dot com.

And it was the happiest people there wasn't. No, I don't know it was. There was neither was an older guy. I was talking to a young woman and I don't know if he was trying to hit on her oppressor, but the only thing the conversation I heard was So I studied shamanism and it was all- and I really wanted to just be peer with. I was going without being creepy. That's that's master level. You don't understand you just you just met a master.

Did. I know how it goes. Yeah you did feel like shamanism is flying too close to the sun. I feel like that's not because you wouldn't say it would you no. He did yeah, I guess that's master level stuff, I'm trying to teach Greg this stuff master level, stuff yeah! so what we were always have where that bar the other night in MILAN, ITALY, There was this girl stuff and we're saying: okay, how you approach to Bob? What would you do and we're getting into master level like, like you know, how we were in approach, the guy first, in this, what we say and all that sort of stuff there's a you know it. I don't yeah you do. It would be my approach here. I go guys, I'm from America like it would be something so stupid, charming do it anyway. My name is my voice. How you use him to get to her how to blah blah blah is yeah yeah yeah by? I don't yeah, I'm no good at that yeah. I think

I would just why are we recording yeah yeah? We're recording? Ok, no, but this is good because people want to learn that people want to learn how. Because I think you know essentially going from long term relationship to long term relationship, so I think now If I were single, I would just walk into a girl and be like. Do you want to move in? Like I don't know where I would go, I don't I don't. I don't know, I don't know how you go that's master level stuff. But I feel like this guy. This guy was probably he looked like late 50s, so I feel like, to be at least five decades in before you can drop shamanism because of her younger than that, and no it's not that's a little creepy shamanism at fifty right, that's cool! When you have long hair and be you know and said: yes, it is a course, I'm almost fifty? No, you can't be because I don't think you and I are that far apart in age. That's the way, that's the way I feel about it too. It's not possible possible

That is. That happened be forty six in March goddamnit. Well at least we're not are parents generation a generation later or or my dad's father was, but I tell my dad's father was fifty five like he was just in his pajamas that for every day- and that was it that's right yeah crutches I was talking to a I was talking to, I think. Maybe it was Craig Ferguson about it. Where I go, 'cause he's around fifty and I go well. Like the new thirty five or forty goes tell yourself old. No, it's interesting, because I feel like I'm in I'm forty five now I feel like I'm in better shape. I feel, but the Is that other people don't feel that way about you? You know, like the people you're talking to you, that they they look at you as it was weird because I look at kids

did you know like actors, I'm working with yeah they're young people, I look, it was completely spell just be looking at their face like this. Try to remember what that was like in there like do. What do you do it? I'm like looking at your face. Can I touch that you know it's like you know, Think about it. 'cause. You have so used to your own face. You know and older and there's got wrinkles and stuff like that, but but skin used to be like you know, I mean just so elastic imperfect and perfect. We're lucky because the longer we're in the race and the longer we can keep up like taking care of ourselves and be in good shape. We instantly like each year? You do that you knocked down like an ex another expert. Hide number of dudes, just fuckingg writer, with a towel like how many for many forty five year old you know. Do you know like a lot of times you look around. You know Jesus Christ, like how old are you

I do that all the time. How old are you? You can't look like forty five or do I look like you? Did you ever have the tower? Did you just throw it in it like thirty, because that's what some guy, like some guys just to to Leanne? I think I was there, but then they get single and then transformation takes place. You know like if they're married or whatever, and then you know and it also they're single. You know when they get on ninety x p. Ninety eight everything changes. What we need to pull up our dvd player. That's all in all! You need! You just need a tree in a rock and you could eat the everything in the roots and then use the tree in the running to work out high tree. You could be departure, yeah, yeah, they're, very edible. But I feel like at that point I just never wanted to get to fifty and then and then go now. The mad scramble, like my life, depends on it. You know I kind of wanted it to be a. I was a big. How old are you four thousand two hundred and forty two

good well thanks. I would said you're in your thirties. Well, if, if you saw me in my twenty, I looks like forty when I was in my twenties yeah and then I cleaned up my act and are you married? I'm not. I do have a girlfriend, though I have do you have children no what's wrong with. I told him my that's the question you get when you after you're forty two self involved. I think it was the term to have kids No, I don't know, I don't have kids no seriously, I had this conversation yesterday with the directory I was I was talking to and he goes it

when you get or for a forty year old married no kids is, is weird. Whereas before forty it's cool yeah, you go right into weird all right. You know I'm saying right, because there is the the supposition that that, but that there's some reason yeah are you damage stores you years of something strange, I suppose is like that. I don't know just him and there's lots of reasons he was. Is there a reason, you're yeah, so I'm not the food was said, discovers the late driver, other way here he said I love my kids man, but but sometime tell you what he said he said of the I thought was funny that I don't think other people would think would funny. It certainly wouldn't be anything worse than what PK is said so whatever it is. That is that it's it's a no just thinking his whole. You know he just

he says a specials devoted to Father Hood and you know, but all the dark side, all the stuff that you know like it's all of my kids are assholes kind of stuff. You know he said I love my kids. I can't say it there's two there's too many beautiful women here that would take it. Take offense at it anyway. But yeah. I think one would be remotely offended if it's too bad will cut its violent, good, good, I think that what we know because we have to go, I have to go out and be with my driver all day. I don't show up until after you finish yeah, but I don't want to start taking weird things about my driver. 'cause like you taking me to weird places and stuff like that, and he knows where I live. The gist of it is that it was not a rousing endorsement for fatherhood hood he was somehow too he he he wanted to and see the. How do you say the word and Cindy eight or he won, burned, his no gotcha gotcha gotcha

gotcha gotcha gotcha how's, that isn't it figuratively speaking, accurately speaking yeah. Well, I think, particular with what we do kind of nomadic lifestyle that performers lead. Lee I'm always surprised when an actor goes yeah. I want to have kids, make really good your friend how around a whole lot. How are you going to have kids, hello? My love, I mean I that's I I so yeah how same question yeah you know. Yeah, I mean it's tough, I mean your I've never really figured that one out you know, and then how are you going to Ciuman deal with them. In your eye, felt like I would have kids and then I always sort of fantasize romanticize, the idea of bringing my kids on set. You know and having a

you know, movie life. You know my kids would then look back when they're you know drug induced and talk about their when they do they are with their dad. I mean I don't see any good things happening that lifestyle, but you at least they would have you know, contacts were the get drugs in, like you know exactly how Bulgaria in yeah they would have hookups in all these countries. Very generous. If they had to flee this country. Yeah exactly go right to the source yeah. You know wouldn't say my dad was a good dad, but he taught us how to get out of Cuba. It was not really no indication about into Cuba and then back out really a good. It was really a there. From that point he was great I'm looking for having kids, I think, I think it'll be the one thing about it is that I think actors have to beg sort of joke about it before, but I think performers

to be naturally self centered, because you're constantly in your your constantly in your own head and so I feel like that inherently makes it difficult today and focus on another life, which is what you should do when you have a kid is make it is all about. I was down. This is a good dad, your home, your kids, you know, comes out in the living room when you're, you know doing your thing and you're rehearsing or whatever, like that, the kids like that among we shot. You know, I'm more, like my dog, for example, are we getting in the territory that I should not be in we're fine, okay, my dog, I had a yellow lab, write fairy censored dog, very beautiful dog. You know he could not be in the house when I rehearsed, because you know movies are all about death betrayal. You know bitterness you know all that sort of stuff. You know so

I'll, be there rehearsing going shut up, Josh working age by myself in my house or like crying by dogs. If I could see my life through my dogs eyes, I'm in the corner in my house beautiful day, I'm sitting in the rehearsing crying in the corner, you know like dog, my dog sitting there going yeah, whatever you want like what the fuck are, you doing you know and that he would leave the house that never I pulled out the script. Pets are emotional sponges and So they will. You know a dog always knows when you're upset and they come up and they want to make you feel bad from point of view. It must have like a really up relationship, was like these guys, just never happy. I don't know what what am I doing he that in this, like a bi polar relationship because you're sitting there like one minute going hey, but you want to look at the go, get the ball. With the pool man, what do I doing yeah or yeah?

so that was tough and I see the same relationship with kids. You know, because actors are tough man, especially if you married an actor you know, and that would you know mommy some. You know money wise. Do you know daddy wise mom? You know you know drugged out, and you know prostitution is searching for a role how to explain that to your kids. Well, I think the problem with it with it, I I see, the upside in the downside to Uhm dating or marrying within the business, because, on the one hand you have a partner that understands you don't- have a regular job. You don't have a regular life, it's weird, it's nomadic. It's emotionally taxing, but on the other hand they essentially, probably have all of the same flaws

that you have and then, when those kind of rub against each other, it's annoying when you're at a party you see direct, are literally your wife is pushing you into the bushes to get to the directory right right like this should be here. How do you don't like him too hard there exactly like somehow, you understand it. It's just weird like ok, honey, don't worry about it. I've never been able to date actresses. Actually, I've never never done it. How do you meet people, since I don't ok? I know I quit drinking and all that, but I don't know how many years ago, nine hundred and ten years ago, did you really yeah yeah. Why I don't know I it was. I think largely because I was sensing that it was not a good, long term plan and I knew if I stop, I probably wouldn't to, and I think it was really,

think it was it a vanity issue where I was like. I don't look good and I really want to try to get my career back. Yes right, side installed, and so I thought I just need to focus, and so then I did, but then, when I did once I clarity in some distance. I realize, like I was doing it for all of these reasons that I didn't realize at the time so yeah. What what about you all the same exact fact I could have said it better. I mean it's, you know you just you know you, wake up and you see everything's, you know spiral around the toilet. You know I mean, and you know not every since I was in probably nicest guy when I drink it, all that, and so I I've just to give that up, and so I'm much more like I've been up since three hundred o'clock this morning might be say: yeah. You know I was riding my bike at six this morning. You know that that kind of stuff is good, yeah, but the social aspects of much more difficult. You don't because hey. You don't go to the places that you know

people are right and then you don't want to marry now. Call it not a good idea. You know so he's a big drinker, yeah Drugi, or something like that. So you again the pools getting smaller and smaller, so has been then. If you stay in this town, it's more difficult and also the younger. You are the more patience you have for drunk, when people in bars in the older you get especially if you don't drink or just like, I just don't. I don't have the energy for the ship there because they were essentially a lot of them are just The conversations I had a guy was at the golden globes two days ago or whatever it was. I had a guy who had been drinking in my face literally two inches from my face. You know giving lecturing me about life yeah. I told Stacy told you this and learn these right here for about fifteen minutes little spit like the alcohol spirit. Here I could not get away from him. You don't have saying, and I thought that's the reason why I don't go out. That's the reason why I don't drink 'cause. I can't I don't know what to do here right. You know, and I don't want to be a guy who's. Your proximate proxy,

approximately issues we you and I right now or you know, of a nice distance from each other. Desk length apart, yeah yeah, you know there's plenty of room to maneuver here I did you get any closer and it starts getting weird. Well, especially, you know it's less excusable. If you, if someone sober an there right here, at least in someone's junk doing alright, they don't depth perception. I don't know, but it's over personally, don't have any excuse. You just now were nose to nose, yeah just in MILAN couple days ago was in Paris, London MILAN, for this movie and which was very cool. Paris was excellent because I get up each morning like I said, and then I studied French, two hours. I read all the papers. All the french papers and so I was good to go back. There used to live in France for a little while, so I go

right there and it was funny 'cause. I went to Paris and you talking to journalists in that and I'm trying out my friends and all that, and I knew everything about the country I knew they were having floods. I knew the political situation. I knew it was kind of fun to do that. So and then we went to London MILAN now we're going here. All the french that this stuff is going on with the present right now is really amazing, which is seeing the stories they go. Oh it turns out. French women are not cool with you having affairs as everyone well before he rides his Vespa over to this. With this apartment you know, and basically this woman- Is there she's an actress case it's the definitive cherry on the cake right there I mean she's, an actress whose Klay banging on yeah and by the way way out of his league, his wife, the woman that he was never like. The guy

the pictures of a and now he just looks completely completely looks like a bowling ball he does look like a boy, but it looks like all of facial features, are sort of is continental drift. That's happening to some weird like face. Pangia, that's going to collect in the middle of his skull yeah and now it's now. It's even everything is even more his head is is is coming to the front of his head is what will soon nfl of his features? I'm. So we need to you, It's it's like the mud, the mud falling down. They should just give me a break in like look at him. Just let him have this. Could you just let him have his please? There are a lot of good years left. He said he's having an affair with the French, your with that ultimately, except now there I think, the idea of this sort of idea of? Well, it's alright. As long as no one finds out you know, but now that everyone knows. I don't know If you get to be at that. Actually

accidental segway you've played characters that are I guess are seemingly like I'm bulletproof what what's going to happen, and so it must be kind of a head trip. When you are, you know the have a super power. Do you like MAC and do whatever they want. Well, really. What I think about that and my driver, I just had that conversation with my driver to come is it's more of the hedge funders. You know these guys, who just get huge contracts huge windfall money and they're out there with their buddies, no rules. I felt it mostly with those guys I mean, there's no rules, they make the rules, and, oddly enough, women are very attracted to that. You and they know it, because the women in that in that become more like the men, you know what I mean and tell hum offending any women in this. This is my bit of my experience in New York, researching these kind of people, and it's actually sickening and to

that they are in power and that they're running both economically and politically is it's scary- and you know it's everywhere, but it's very empowering. They have the money and they have all the accoutrements. You know the big cigars in the fancy suits and they go to to martini bars. That's when you find the real, the. Super superheroes, so in your in your estimation, with some wisdom and experience and some sort of some Social Anthropology under your belt. These guys think that this is our this is. This is what it means to be a man and what are you finding out? What do you it means to be a man or, to you know, be power, Well what do you? What do you think that is in reality? I have carpets in my house, man, I don't know I'm in the seventies. I still have carpets

I don't know I'm going to try to answer your question. I could say like you know, you know bullshit answer, but I really well thought. Okay, I can. I can prod you with what I've been thinking it is lately, which is I it's all about accepting responsibility. Okay the responsibility for your actions or responsibility for people like accepting was owning up to things you do and being and be and accepting responsibility, okay, I'll also, okay, that's a good one and I'll say I will say the day that you stop? What other people think of you is the day that your life start. You start living this idea that we're we're. Basically all aspects of our lives were performing for others at our own expense. You know my it's the whole, please disease. You know what I mean like you're, trying to make my life, I'm always trying to make other people happy at my expense. You know- and I just one day that I could stop doing that and just do what I want to do. You know,

and there are many examples of that in this movie and are in this movie and uh in this life in this town actors, doing it taking responsibility for their own careers. You know do, their own material being producers putting money into it and that the golden globes we just had many examples of that. You know Matthew. Mcconaughey said he just put money. To Dallas buyers Club, you know we and I think, that's in this business. As an actor, what's it's about taking responsibility is not given to shoot about what anybody thinks doing why you were put on this earth. You know because I feel like every person here, has a monster inside of him and that monster wants to get out and scream and yet everything we do in life is trying to push that monster back down so that we will be civil will, presentable will be, you know acceptable. You know

when you're alone, with your dog, you know you, the monster was to come out totally and and we mask the monster and I felt like alcohol and all that sort of stuff was masking the monster. So I feel like that would for me that really be being a man or a woman is what that really means is being an adult. Is being is, is is going up to your own shit and it's doing what you want to do in this life? Yeah in your money, I think, is far over rated. I have a very good relationship with money. I, like my I like buying things for myself and for people. But when when you get to the stage where I have money in order to to sustain a lifestyle or whatever it is. I think it then it becomes dangerous and your you would rather you. You would rather work for the money than actually working for yourself and when you get to be when you're dead,

You say I live my life, my own way or right before you're dead, two kids a day when you're done you get open, you'll hear you look good and right before the yeah. Here you accept gotten that he's already yelling at you. So what are you telling you it from? do it before the idle yeah, I think uh. I you know. I agree with that too, because I I definitely feel that uh, I I do enjoy having money for things, because it's a it's a comfort and it's not it's. It's a it's a whole different states and stress that I don't have to have anymore, but I also this uh. I have this. I have a house that I bought over a year ago and it's a nice house and it's been been remodeling it for you. I've never lived there, so I've been staying with my girlfriend. She just has a one bedroom apartment and and honestly, I feel like. Oh

the end of the house of it. If I don't have the house, I'd be fine here, because she's here and I'm happy with a future. This is the challenge I'm going for it for two thousand fourteen I is to. I would love to sell every or give away everything that I have so I we have nothing. And then try to rebuild myself. Do you see everything I do how liberty liberating that would be, and I'm not saying going into a different may job, I'm saying as an actor in rebuilding myself and see. If I could do it, you know because it makes you young it makes you viral. It makes you hungry again. You know what I mean yeah look around. I often look around because I bought. Buy furniture Willy nilly, you know it's not all coordinated like yours, an your new house. I've got by the way I have no furniture in the house. Yet I look at my bedside table and I go. I go. What's so hard about that bedside table, I go is

the bed side table. I'm gonna die with I've had for fifteen years. I don't even like it. It holds a shitty lamp that at all like that, I got off a movie. I go. It's not really a does battle with his bedside table, and why are you by my bed? Why do I have to look at you right before I go to bed every single night and that's our look around my house. I go. I don't need you, I don't need you at the dog like over cool right anywhere on the ship, no dogs and a good life. I'm sure he did. He was well loved. Well, that's good. Did you did you take them places you get to travel with that or never all. You just stated my room. What was it that you would of course, actually funny story about my dog, real, quick people like movies stories. Don't movie star is a great dog stories. I remember attain movie story, that's for that's quite good! My dog was in northern,

California, I believe- and I am in southern California and Julia Roberts were doing Erin Brockovich she was dating Benjamin Bratt at the time and he lived in northern California and I said and Julia asked me or Steven did if I could be on set at this particular time, you Know- and I said you guys- I can't I got a dogs in northern California and I have to bring with me in so Julia said. She said: well, I'm going to be up there visiting Benjamin. She goes I'm going to fly up there. I got up my private jet right, I'm going to pick up I'll pick up your dog come back to we were in Barstow at the time. I'll keep him for three days. You know I'll, look your dog and even with my dog. I said, that's fantastic, you know that's great, so my parents took my dog to the place and Julie. Was there got on the private jet everything she took the dog right, so I do to Barstow three days later man and you you come

I go knock on Julius Trailer, you know and she comes out and she's like take your dog here I go what I got a really good dog he's. Well, Maddon everything, but you know in a foreign place,

anyway, also probably huge Julia Roberts fan. So it's very very difficult to get yeah. Well, he he likes he likes most. You know he's a big field. Yeah I was gonna, say something something really different. Radiology cat, I don't know I got I got to have a career, that's fine! This thing actually isn't going to go out on there. Is it? No? No! No! No! This is about my furniture that I have carpet. This is just for us. This is just for you and me Wri. I love the idea that the story, you just told, sounds like a weird dream I would have liked. I had this dream. I was doing a movie in Julia Roberts, picked up my dog that was in northern California for some reason and brought it to Barstow like a weird that doesn't sound like a real thing that happened. Somebody if you have any, can you believe that that's going to it's a fantastic story, it's a great great story to need to do that. She was very, very, very generous to me on that movie. All that's good, so it was a good. Was a good experience. What do you care? I do care series like really do you to say it will like you, do care? Okay, I'm not a good actress, I'm real!

happy that you now see. I don't even know how to I'm glad you had on. No that's not it line two cables, my line. I'm really glad that you know I'm trying to do that. Don't take that pause there. You know what it is. It's that I'm trying to do the do the die. We I do. The James Lipton thing. I'm really glad it, but it is never sound since I think I sound naturally sarcastic when I say things yeah, because it's my own, Defense mechanism being committed. I can't fight anyone. I can just like snark Adam and that's that's about as far as about as far as they can go to meetings can't fight the no I'm, I'm very good friends with David Spade yeah. I think he cannot fight if he falls into that category David. Spade would break like a Graham cracker crust. You can just you can just. I think you can just poke through him. That is until for man and very funny yeah. But you know what you guys have you guys have tongues in mines. Well, you know, and and and you could do more damage with those I mean literal-

You could disarm the biggest bozo in the world by making him feel bad about his mother of his Dat. What you know what you're missing shortly before he dismantles us physically, he wouldn't even get that far yeah. It's almost like a super. He it's like a super hero like comedians of wit and sarcasm, and you know kind. They would even understand it. You would paralyze them. You should actually take this. This is my idea: okay, okay, okay, this is my idea. Okay, we could peril. Well, is this you could paralyze him. I mean that would be your super here. The super ghetto, your powers that you know which What is coming at you when they want to kill you or something like that? They're really angry, and you just say that one thing that makes stop and think and they're, not If it's a joke of it's, not a joke or you know, then they reflect about other childhood, and this is all like taking place in a matter of the second. You know, and then you pounce see that's what

let's pounce on them. Well, you can run pencil way yeah, but that's not a good movie. No, no! No! Ok! No you're right! That's not a good movie, that's just it 'cause! I do. I do have that thing where I go alright, if I came up and tried to rob me what I be play. Call me cool. You know, here's this bag, you need more than I do you take. It is not you got the got everything like when I try to be funny or when in actuality. It is v like this. Okay, like I I don't know, I don't know if I would, if I would be able to keep it okay. Well, what's the other side of the coin? There you go up and beat the out of a let's play that card: that's not on any coin. In my pocket, no, no, I mean B was fantasize about that yeah. You don't know, of course, to be a kid who got picked on and bullied when I was younger. Of course, like I, you know anytime, someone comes in as in a you know like as if as if someone gets alpha male and me, I just like the hidden hand to hear my neck starts to stand up, and things come out of my mouth that I can't stop right I don't think I could really back it up with these

But I do think that intellectualism or sarcasm wit, whatever intelligence basically is, is stronger than brawn. Actually I went on a percent. I see I mean you know guys. You want people to talk themselves, I'm sure David, you, you know comedians whoever it is talk themselves out of fights all the time. You know and then end of may in getting the guy to be your friend, you know because you have that way of you know constructing an argument or making the guy laugh or whatever it is. It's very powerful, because we we don't have any allergies to bargain with. So we have to do it that way or they might just kick your as possible, but I still be like hey you're funny smash, smash, smash, say it again at all. So just keep me around you make me laugh and want to punch you. I think this interview about it's not about anything, it's a it's a highly services. Private podcast is like a it's.

It's like the first phone conversation or like a coffee chat? You have with someone. We just met, You really are interested to know more about him. So it's really just really just a conversation. I like it and less and less of an interview, because you're going to doing for like ten or twelve days already and I a years year to go on forever. So it's yeah. Oh and I haven't talked about any of these subjects. No it'll come up will get to know, know what I'm saying is I it's refreshing that I haven't. I haven't talked about my drivers. You know his tendencies where you don't get a chance to you. Do you do junkets, and so you, basically Europe You know. So much of your press schedule is sound bite culture. So they're like what was it like to work on this movie?

Did you read Mary Shelley when you were growing up? What was this thing like I dated Mary Shelley? Did you really? How did Neil Sakaru she was creative? Naturally, the pen is very mighty. But you're going to you know I'm sure, I'm sure it must be interesting too, especially when you start doing press you do guys do the same actors. Do the same thing as comedians. I would imagine you start doing your at the beginning and then you just start talking and answering the same questions and then you start to work, workshopping stuff and then halfway through start getting down. Okay, these are going to be the answers yeah because you just don't have the energy otherwise to come up with brand new answers for every one of the same questions. That's true. I will say this, though I do try to answer any everybody. Honestly, I tried look up in the eyes. I try to make sure that their time is valuable and that I

deem it is valuable that their valuable, I think that's the thing 'cause. They know it and they don't give a shit anyway. Man, I'm serious, like they're, robots too, in their own way. There going and plus him don't like any movie that you're in any way. You know what I mean. They tell you that look. I mean like today. Today with there is in the in the french paper I was reading. Was this you know I'm very into body language. You know you mean what you can do, what you're telling me right now with your body language or you know, so I read this whole thing on it today and you know you can tell how journalists feels about you for sure. You know, the movie about you know scares me. The most is when they air and we met. You know like that that scares me more, Because you know there's going to something: bad is going to happen after that you said the worst thing to my girlfriend at apart, no yeah yeah yeah. We met him like I never. I never expected if you, if I, if I met you again in a week,

and I said, hi I'm Chris and you were like, doesn't ring a bell. There's not one party would be like you, son of a bich I'd, be like well, of course, because you this is this is a whirlwind, is a flurry of humans value. You meet them We will do this again, you know and then you develop relationships for or with all the journalists. You know I do know my greeted by name love. Sometimes I you know I develop relationships, especially with the the Hfpa right is that the Hfpa Hfpa say that PA. Thank you you get to know him what time

the golden globes. I don't know if you want to talk you talk about what you want to talk now, you're talking about. I don't know the big chair, I'm in the comfortable chair at least bosses share right now this whole this conversation started, which was, I was offered a chair which was a fold up plastic chair. You get a catering or I don't even know why I was offered that chair and then, but there was a big now at office recliner, which I took, which is quite comfortable, see. It says this is about you. This is about me, so I gotta talk about when I get to talk about absolutely forgot gloves. You said something I should know I was in the golden globes. One time have you ever. Have not been the go go's been to the Emmys been at the golden globes Right will in the goal of you all, there's big tables, you sit around and you eat and then there's this the stage stuff. I was looking around the room one one day and I mean there was just everybody there. You know the biggest of the big. I thought you I play Michael That's right. These guys for the next twenty years. So I got a you know, make friends

you know, I'm saying because these are my peers. This is in a way it's my family, you know what I'm saying, and so you we usually go to the golden globes more than once in and it was it had a profound effect on me. How do you make friends? do you. Would you just walk up to someone and go hey? Martin Scorsese, I'm yeah, I'm Erin. Has it going. I think that time I walked up to Clint Eastwood, who I'd never met and he was surrounded by you know per. Pitt and Angelina Jolie- and I said, Hey Clint Eastwood. I didn't say that here you please watch yeah. You look a lot but you're a little smaller, but you should use that you look like an older, Clint Eastwood. I thought it for the hair, and we'll tell it tell a story after we don't know. Tell it tell it tell it tell it's fine, it's fine! It's fine! It's bad story. Should I tell a story what happened to me in the airport Saturday? Of course we should yeah yeah. No, no ok

say it using fake names, no Balotelli, clear, short story show. So I walked up to him and I said no surrounded by all the you, the biggies and so like one of my students, Spielberg was there I said said: Mister Eastwood. I said you know my name's Aaron, I said really lovely at work with you sometime, I'm not a total nobody. You know, but he looked at me like you know like look at through air, any guys, yells shaking sometimes- and I was like It hurt it's three words: Eastwood Prv Fucking dead. He goes yeah, he says well,

let's shake and I got all never work with you there's zero chance. I will ever work with Clint Eastwood. Shell, the moral stories if you ever at the golden globes do not approach anybody, would not anyone nobody. I would say that is Clint Eastwood's loss. You know like a guy like that, should want to know who the younger actors are. Well, I mean he was. I put him in a difficult situation because we were all just getting up. It was a big Hubble up when he was around and stuff. I probably should. To better moment I was star struck by you, know, I'm a group Clint Eastwood on, and so when I saw it on my god, I got to go meet this guy. You know and happens in that room. You know you see people like, like or whatever we did. It was like. You know, just some amazing people and everybody's. You know doing great work. Were you ever surprised by someone who was like hey, I'm a fan of your work, all the time, John

Did it to me the other day, I'm always a, comes up and and knows who who I am and then can say something that you're? Actually it that's right, you know which is amazing, because you you you, I mean you in the company of men was ninety seven right, so it's been in a lot of stuff yeah. Well, you know people forget You know people are more concerned about their own careers. I guess in the end, what have you done for me lately? I totally understand that you know I've and less you know the woman. The other day said she big fans and you don't come sign autographs. I went over there to sign autographs. She does love you and White House down, that's very gracious the other problem. Is that, like I mean

even though I look at you- and I go say so here, Annette Card has a Bush or twins, we said well, but you have a good job. Have a good jawline, you better give a much better job. Getting on Twitter today said that when you have a job I like mine, do you need a q tip to wipe out the crap in it? So I mean they, don't don't don't feel so bad, but you like my twitter, but it's but also, I think, just as white guys like we're just uh, not there's sort of non ethnic white guys. So we blend into a lot of other white guys. You know we were standing next to like Aaron Paul, and you know twenty other people would be like. Oh they're, all of the same crayon box. We do look very much alike. Well, see you. This is what you're going to look like in three. Oh, my god, that's yeah you're going to have like this. You know I don't mind that, though I don't mind that I don't I don't mind, I don't mind getting that like. I feel like

Bryan Cranston, called it the crag and it's got. It's a good person at like it's. I think I, photo shoot one time right and you are stays. I was doing a photo shoot one time you know and I'm you know his photo shoot you're just uncomfortable anyway, because you got to like be a model and give them look one two and three, and what did the the photographer's assistant came up to me because hey you might want to watch those lines up their own? No, I was like you as a dude. I like those lies. This is living yeah. This is lying. We said. Why are you talking to me anyway? I only talk to the photographer. Your activating his line. Call down, don't ask questions, I I I I I always know like, because I've. For work? I have to give me to make up put on every day. He, and so you can you always you always sort of sub consciously know like that's. That's

where the problem areas are 'cause, they just spend a little more time under the eyes are like? Oh that's just even you out. Oh, I guess I'm not even anymore. Like it funny to me and I'm I I I I I I keep going this idea that that, be a performer. You are sort of hypersensitive to the world and but then you go into a business that essentially also attacks your sensitivities, insecurities it seems like the worst marriage of things that you could possibly have yeah, but but when you embrace it you know you really embrace it and get it that's the way it is. You have to organize yeah and it's fun too. I, like being my age in this business. I see a lot of upside for that. You know I like adult I like having you know, I mean I like having all these lines on my face and and because let let me look at Clint Eastwood for by, for example, you know I mean.

You can't everybody smooth skin and beautiful and looking great all the time. It's just not good for drama So this is all about. I mean people would rather see, in my opinion, even in superheroes. You know lines on the face in like Bryan Cranston. You know I saw him, he won the war game award the other night Ann. I like seeing that otherwise people don't take you seriously right. You know you look at Jack Nicholson, look at Sean Penn, you looking great actors, these great actors. You know: that's life lived, That's experiences under there and not know sort of, in fact in hall Beauty almost goes against you. If you're you early. If you're a guy, you know, because nobody wants to take you seriously. So you have to somehow fuck yourself up like right off the bat mycareer after in the company of men. I did your friends and neighbors. I gained forty five pounds. I had mustache and red hair people loved it, was it even fun for you to realize like I can. I can

manipulate myself in such a way that I can actually do any kind of. I mean it's the guys that can do leading stuff and character stuff either. There are the guys who will work forever. That's right and that's what you're going for it's it's it's longevity and it's also interesting work and directors. Appreciate that you know so, do actor, if you can show it different local different way than he's going to appreciate that a because he's going to say, you're willing to do it you're willing to make yourself ugly or willing to go all the way for the character. I had this discussion yesterday with a director he says: are you willing to gain? pounds or whatever, like that, and I said yeah for sure. If the characters Right if you're not going to screw the movie, are you willing to not fuck the movie? If I do that, a fair question, it's a fair question: yeah, that's a totally fair question is gaining forty pounds is tough. Why not think I think the I think most people sort of look at the idea of like look at a leading man guy and they go

great to be that guy. But then you also know like we're not going to that guy forever, so you have to figure out how to how roll with it known it like, like you're, saying and figure out how to adapt and change. I mean if you want one Jeffrey. May I mean. Maybe you just wanna up like always going to be that guy in the knock within target the the the the the wrench in the spokes or whatever. That saying is, is this every he's cool what you just said. The problem is continually asking me yeah, but the will not be a has. She say, this, is for me sure it's it's being attracted to the opposite sex right. You see, that's the big things like once. They say you once you stop becoming coming. Then, then the Hollywood doesn't they're not going to pair you. That thing and you're not we come. You know

I don't want to see a sex symbol because that's not what it is, but you have to have tractability ability, if you're, if you that's, because the problem is that you're not willing to give that up right. People just didn't give a shit about that. Then they would have more interesting careers yeah, but that's why you see like guys in their 60s, going out with a twenty five year old in a movie. You don't I mean 'cause. I still consider themselves to be. Except to be that guy yeah when the audience really just what's that guy to be a crack legal man in a fisherman movie, you know have some fish out of the sea and then going home and drinking some whiskey right. You don't I mean but they're on to do that because they can't see themselves as a known sex symbol. It is. It is funny that I'm just starting to feel the first I mean when I was. I was like thirty or thirty. Five is like all these. You know. Guys who just won't go quietly into the in you know in all young people say: that's really go I'll, just and then you start and then you start getting a little older like

not yet. You know like that. So bad on his new look skin, it's good! You look at extra skin, it is so I definitely feel I feel and what I believe it is, is just that biological urge for like survive evil, you know like you, don't want to let it go. Thing you said earlier about You know, being a grown up, essentially means you know, giving a shift when anyone thinks, but I kind of fear that moment when like you know, go out of the house like in a fishing hat in Bermuda, shorts and and Burke in stocks. The MIKE I don't give a who am I trying to the first, the first time I say who am I trying to impress somebody like art? Does it? What is that stream? No at all see if you that's it, that's it what what if you want to go out in leather pants- and you know, like you- know, spiked heels yeah. I mean we're we're ever your gently mix it up. That would totally make. So what I'm saying is like if you

to do that, because you're not going to go out in Bermuda, shorts and Arbutus Burmuda Bermuda. If you just so your dream go like even with like wearing a suit. You know to an interview like Flocka wanna, wear a suit to an interview. Yeah, you know what I mean. Why are you making me where she too is not always in trouble? For me sure it's not who I am that's right. You know as soon as you get rid of that and go on I'm doing my own way. Look. It's got like Kevin Smith, you don't look at Adam Sandler yeah, you know he does what he wants yeah cat Kevin? Definitely pioneered not only film, podcasting new numidian stuff and but- and he really, I think capsule this idea now of like it's okay to not play the game and it's ok. I mean I can be a little more work if you decide to dance outside the system, but I think that's

a lot of times where the more rewarding stuff is one percent, because then you're not at the mercy of I'm telling you you're good enough for your, not good enough for your, not at this enough for your that too much and you know you're just sort of saying like man, just whatever you don't have to ask the question. What do you think yeah? I mean well, whatever it's about, would, of course, you're going to collaborate with people. You have to to make films in this in this business or whatever it is, but asking. What do you think that's and that's in question. I ask all the time you know I stacey when was she thinks all the time. It's important to me that I present be presentable, inside your going on, you know, just want to yourself. You know, and I think when I come to myself and do what I really want. That's what I'm going to be really happy like you're doing that. A lot now it's tough. You know I mean

scale of one to ten, I'm probably hitting about Arma three hundred and thirty hit, or something like that. You know you know. I mean B some try. You know you. When you make a film you have to please the producers you have to please you know everything else you're. You know you're you're trying to get future work at all the source stuff. But you know it's it's it's like the golf swing. You know the the easier you strike the ball, the better the hit right. So it's counter intuitive right right and I think this is counterintuitive to like are sitting here and talking at will like this and just Free association like this is a much more interesting conversation than if you had you know, call, appoint questions, and all this of this is a much more fun interview This is more like what people want to hear. This is outside the bar.

Isn't podcasting as at the monsters. I think it is now. I think it's I think it's outside the box still think it's outside the box. Still, I don't think it's tipped. Yet it's it's! It's the wild wild West. It is a totally is yeah yeah! There's because I mean because the medium just didn't exist before about eight years ago. So if there isn't there aren't really rules, but I think something that we're all discovering is that you know it's much more interesting to hear what people are like and how they I mean. It's almost like a social experiment like I think it's really interesting. How does he process the world? How did he get to where he was. What does he think? What does he like? That stuff is more it's more interesting to me anyway, to hear people talk about what they're passionate about, rather than just well for twenty four weeks and uh yeah? There was a lot of makeup. You know exactly in a green screens weird. You know, I think, that's just a holdover from just sound bite culture that

you know for years and years we just didn't have a long for medium like this, I would much rather listen to how you are in fact ask jail in his last night J. What do you do when you go home? You know he told me what he does. I won't say it on the air. That's not cool, but you know. I was surprised by that of all my clothes and then I have a n and they have a set of down in the in the shape and fanned whether the cone and one in a Jimmy Van and whatnot and then a with my a few days later. I got to buy a car was it similar. To that I mean you don't have to say if I was totally on the nose sometimes. I can't stop myself

I left for the record. I left three minutes yeah. I'm not here. Get me back in here. Can you please I'm sorry you're very loud fee a. I did appreciate that okay, you're right. I was a couple more minutes. Okay, good! I don't want this to happen again. I really the movies. I frankenstein it's in three D Imax. I spent six months training for it. It comes out on the twenty fourth of January yeah. I actually the blood that wanted the another thing that I think is really cool about your movies things. It's based on the comic series in the guy who wrote it is a guy who was one of those like think outside the box? Guys is the same guy who wrote underworld right and was in not Kevin, did the comic book right, yeah and then

the writer. The directory then took it in wrote. Up Stewart wrote, Stuart Beattie wrote he wrote collateral. He wrote the first pirates of the carob Caribbean, which one he provides. The Caribbean, but I think either way either way works. I sell smarter, though, when I sing Caribbean, but I feel a Caribbean is I feel like it. You know it's weird. I think I see Caribbean. If I were going to visit, I gonna take a take a cruise, although I think Alta leave the I think. Ultimately, the definitive pronunciation has to go to Billy Ocean. So I think you have to say so yeah, I think that's. I think he actually right. Yeah. He wouldn't really are a master cool rapping on it that caribbean queen no, but he's jamaican. He is he's jamaican great music still in England he's in my ipod. He is

but it's very, very small. So I crossed some across some wires across some wires and no you didn't. I just wasn't sure where you go in there, but Stewart I think, wrote the script and you know the script. Obviously the genesis is that book that you show decimated earlier Mary Shelley's Frankenstein did I'm sorry. Well, I did I you guys broke off, and so I was route yeah. That we created something great. Good. Are you said so you are? You are excited about it, yeah, I'm and I'm excited about. I was had fun making it. You know, you know it's a everyone here, but I do yeah. I had fun making it work. My azov and everybody else. Did they think about movies that nobody understands you just I mean people Did you realize how hard it is to make a movie- You know and how much effort and thought

and passion goes into making a film every movie, just by virtue of the fact that it's made, even if it goes straight to video or whatever it is now. You know I mean there's so much love in there. That's a person's life. I want you to really think about that, take a moment process, I absorbed all of it, but she was right there better attitude now now, I'm not getting too as a matter of fact. Ok but it. But it is. I mean like everything that you work on, no matter what the experience is it still going to leave a little trace with you along the way and you've worked with fuqing uh, I mean like even even get to. I didn't even get to tear your head open about Harvey Dent and that experience, is a movie like that feels big

making it or does it feel. You know what the direct like. That's the feel like we're, making a small movie that he's going to blow off some well. There's two sides out to you quickly to stories about that. We were in Chicago, make the film and we're on top of that high rise at night, and there was christian and and Gary Oldman and just the fact that to be my company was fascinating and you know the suit and all that, and then there was lights in all of the city and all the buildings around I mean literally for as far as the eye could see- and I said to chris- Chris, that's really cool. You know. I mean it's so great with those lights there they have the lights on, they didn't turn the lights off on the buildings, and Chris looks at me. Kind of like strangely goes. That's uh. Bulshit, so they had lit. I mean talking like a entire city. They lit every specific light in, so when you see that shot. That's all us on the

and so that's how big the movie is and forget the batmobile in the biggest green screens in the world and all that. But on the first day of filming there's a big it's the scene in the restaurant when, when Christian comes up to to Maggie and I and you know, we did our scene in between nobody left. Nobody went to there, there's nobody. There was no real catering to speak of you know and everybody is standing. I was looking around so first day filming I'm like I'm looking at Christian back to his trailer houses. Work. We're scratches across you know. If and- and that was the great thing is that basically everybody stays on set all the time and it's a real sort of family kind of thing, and Chris and Chris works he quietly very methodically. And so in that way it felt like a very small movie. You know it was at an enormous film, and then you had heat ledger. Who was you know? You know what I mean the guy's a genius, you know

so passionate about the movie. I mean I was Gary Oldman watch Heath. Yeah. We all know What a genius Gary is right and Gary. He was sitting there going. You know so It was quite extraordinary to be there and then tragedy that happened to Heath, so I'm very happy to did a part of that. I know you have to I: may you have to go because you're at this is probably one of ten thousand other things that you have to do today, but I Frankenstein comes out January 24th. And then anything else coming up, I just finished a movie called Incarnate which I play a wheelchair bound, I'm a paraplegic in it and its adjacent Blum Blum film. So it's sort of a John Rhe kind of film, but a lot of and a great director name of Brad Peyton directed it and that's I don't know to come out, but it's going to be a lot of fun and then I'm going to go. I gotta find some work. I think

yeah I'm going to be David, Spade's assistant, hey I card over here, beat the shadow out of that guy. For me, I said some shit. I can't cash the check but thanks man take back my car. I don't like to see. Tell Clint Eastwood I want to work with him know already. Did that once please! Let me do it again. Alright, thanks enjoy burrito everyone Aaron Eckhart. Thank you very much pleasure now leaving Nerdist dot com enjoy your burrito this bike has a body by carbonite dot. Com carbonite is online backup made easy plan started just five thousand nine hundred and ninety nine a year start your free trial. Today, at carbonite dot com used the offer code notice to get two bonus month with purchase.