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this is the eighty twenty point customer one thousand eight, with the makers of goodness of Mr Adam Savage. In hearing I can't even com, All these lights organ! Oh, you know, there's trouble lives. I do so. You know that they bear the milk carton. Kids they play at large. Time they did on music for inside Leeuwen Davis Gus,

and their public tribute and they trap their entire road package- is one of the all of these. Just one and eight they use to an acoustic Tarzan. They placed us at the apex. Tween their voices in the guitar sound amazing. Worse, thank you. Do know about how this know how this guy puts these together. He buys these apparently cheap chinese cardio aid MIKE's, like a fifth of what a really good one cause you and when he finds is. About one in three fail, but the other two are just as good as high and was so you really it's just a little bit of a roulette game has so he goes to this q. See process where he gets the ones to fail to fail in their uses, the other one on it's fantastic. Now, that's fantastic! I'm so glad that you are here I miss seeing you haven't, seen you in quite a long time,

and as far as the podcast goes, you are really part of podcast history like our podcast history, if you're thanks them, because you know the first you the very first life. Shall we ever did it Largo in two thousand ten? Was you can use of you? You? You mean it an important moment in my life, because that was the for some ever tried, stand up in front of a crowd like Lord systems and encourage and it went grades. So good. I mean even the weird thing about that, though, is because I remember. You were doing about your sons. He referred to as thing one thing to up and then, I was eight years ago where now there of Derek Fuckin grown there. Women's yeah. I'd like one

I worked for me on my show savage village and was my belay when I was flying as iron man like I'd so at a certain point, his fudo, he doesn't advertise. It he's my kid. This is point at which he saved my life right, like a lawsuit engine and I fell in he like caught me before I hit the deck, and when I stood up again, I turned to whom this thanks handsome, PDA who he was working with tournaments said. Why did the Bosphorus call you handsome he's my daddy's like that? As our that's all right I mean is it was where you well a kidney more though so, because I know for a long time any who is famous, who have kids you wanna can protect their identity, so people don't get weird, but now their adult human

whence we ended up. We shot a piece, the camera, where I explained that he was my son. I named him on the show. We decided not to cut it into the episode. Oh really yeah. I tweeted that that was my kid I still want them to have their privacy sure I said want them day because it can be. No, it can be confirmed. I remember my wife when we first got together when we first started dating, she was working for a boss and she noticed that his attitude, taught her blue boss she'd workforce for like two years that his attitude toward her changed when she do not disturb her at his attitude towards her changed when he found out, she was dating me out We ain't like that. It's that weird social navigation, that people do yeah its peculiar. So I want them to have their own experience of the world rather than always filtered term or at least being able to choose whether or not they want that kind of a life exactly. But

show was so much fun and in the audience was Craig Ferguson who had told me it was a friend with busters and said all of you to stand about, come out and see it. I was sure, like that's ever going to happen, and then he did. He do and then we became friends after he came back centuries like this is great the dual use my shop and then I thought were going on his show undoing the male segments, and- and we were so it was. It was a very significant episode because it all, established was the first time I thought. Oh, this kind of cast genre like this platform. It doesn't have to be in a studio like you could do alive, show, let's experiment with that, and we stood Doing life shows after that, in a totally change like I can be anything you want to mess with sort of a fun. It was sort of a fun. You know

version of a savage build with with it with a media platform. So I was a very funny episode and then the second time we did that show together, which was again at Largo, where Craig was your main gas, and you had the amazing an incredible sarawak, come play up. That's when I met became friends with her and again this cascaded into all these other areas of my life. It's so like that funny to see what the vendor grandma like the crossover of comedy science, television, music, you noses all these things sort of can delicacy. As grade and her husband, his grey like they're. Just such great people, so like Largo is just a magnet for. I love that, no matter what types of stuff Largo puts up, there sat there's just like a weird common cultural thread, whether its music, you know Europe, its bluegrass

more a rock star for comedy or whatever it is. In the end, the backstage Largo fulfils my childhood dreams of what I hoped back stages. In the light of this, it was feels a lot of inspiration, you're doing a show where there's sketches it feels like vaudeville, where's, like all. There's someone with a whole mandolin and someone else is putting a duck Scholarly is really adventure, our yes, that's exactly right, I'd be there and do overhearing Josh Molly There's John Hammond, thereby put an unwillingness to their local z S, Paget, Brewster, everyone's gonna character and dressed up, but when you travel around, the country knew perform indifferent, theatres, We get to see someone pointed out to me, like you visited an old Fox theatre, yeah, and you learn what people thought of performers back in those days, because the dressing rooms for the smallest,

I think we have all like doing. Letterman show right after the dressing room was like this big shit. Net bucket is actually no here's the horn not exert one corner, then you do. You know I played in other places we have which always sinner blog, who write like that of dress use. It all just feels like a prison complex up the other, though Largo with the Christmas lights and the warmth of that backs, data always feel at home. Like that, it's a good experience. It's a really good. I also that first night, my wife and I also ran into Martin STAR oh yeah, at Largo that night and we had the x ray of that spontaneous experts, you have were you love someone's work and you'd see them go? Oh, hey area as if you know them, and they kind of have to navigate this. We didn't feel like we were very young. At that point we ve been quite reel off, is flake yeah at meeting Martin stars actually exist.

What you'd expect meeting Martin start to be a little suspicious of you and yes, ultimately, like such a nice guy, exactly yeah, I mean it's the cry the cross over the used specifically have too, because that you know ministers and then ultimately, the maid Series and ultimately Samuels everything that you do ye it it. It is the center of this pin wheel of all of these different people and disciplines and ideas and stop and you couldn't have possibly you know so many years ago, when you say that you like, I will just nerds making profits. And take, but to think of, like all these different people from different walks of life, who would cut a land, admit busters, and you would

let me be like the centre of it. It is a pretty surreal. It was far out and I think the first time I started to realize that weird cultural nexus we were occupying was when we went to COMECON, and I realized reality shows don't go to cover cock. A teller tried once they're like that. Was That's, no, there's not really a space. We were out on this little cultural promontory, unlike what is a science show doing comecon, but it felt really right and I found such an incredible community there and get your right. It's like it's from it. We here's a question what the intersection between cons and utility kilts. I don't know what it is about it merely there. Well, you know listen nerves. I can nerds tend to be practical, sort of that sort of that. You know Einstein, Step Rundle thing I have five of the same out.

And I dont ever have to expand any energy when I'm on it, and so the utility I imagine because there is cross over with the maker community of cross over with the renaissance, where community theirs and there is something that's very practical I mean. Oh, I have been made are killed and I have worn killed and their very comfortable there, where the very comfortable you know, especially if you're walking around in a hot, invention all day. Lino you need you need to. Air conditioning the things I work, I were killed when I worked in industrial like magic. They had famous Christmas party, that was, you could dress up really redress of as much as you want it for it. So I decided one year to do a full Scots amends Prince Charlie Jacket with a full killed in a car. I couldn't afford a kill their expensive causes. On material. Yes, so I made one tiny I wore. It was my family tartan and I were it to to the island Christmas.

Ran to my boss. You got Ziad. We stress that killed my boss Gus. Why does it look because a great for it and then why are you asking me? Listen it's! You know when your ultra, why People like we killed can be very revealing. Well so I one of my co workers in the camera department was a Scotsman who had told me about the right way to go the skein do in all the different things and the next day or the next debate. They morning he said how did wearing the killed the party go, and I sent it when great. You didn't tell me that my friends, drunken wives, would pick the edge of my class to see what I was wearing a he goes. Oh, I didn't tell you, but that part happens every time. What do you agree that just breathe Sounds it bungler? Nothing! If you really correctly, you are free, bawling, see that feel danger of it

but also off, but especially because guys are used to having to be conch Maria and we often sit with our legs akimbo. Well, that's why I mean killed, has like in your it's some spectacular number of yardage and killed because of all the plead, so you could sit spread. Legged no you're, not just teabag the bow manoeuvre they don't know. Did you sit on the you sit on the killer on the back of it, you don't undo the killed and plant you're naked Ok, I'm soon, essentially, just your centralism, while stamping the back of your killed time you sit down. Ok, that's good! Now, just get! It is good to know that that's the case, but it I do I've thought about it. You know. I do believe that there is some scottish heritage in the heart. I know. Actually there. Scottish heritage with family Greek, and so you know it wouldn't be you know I don't It would be considered cultural appropriation to wear it killed because it it and

Just don't know by the results, my we really lovely. I found it a delightful thing to where I still have the whole outfit. Should release a line of kilts. Just savage kilts was so might might ma. Am I the scottish side of my family are Monroe's and when you do you have a name, and you know it goes back. You go and look up. The tartan and suppress straightforward were red tartan and then there's often but there is often a motto and the Monroe motto you like hope: it's gonna be great like there be dragons or something. But now I was born the year of the sheep, and in my my our motto is dread God, who that's very that's very, is that with a b catholic- and here is the limit of my knowledge hell, I have no idea. I haven't the slightest idea it do you drag

aye aye aye. If there was one I'm certain I would dread have had. No, so what I call myself is a new I'm, a new testament agnostic. You know it's really funny is. Is the ideas like if your said back in time there like dread God and you're like well the definition and constructive that if we are to assume we wouldn't also we wouldn't know that there was a god to dread yet and then they ve been up what they were produced. Burnoose heretic, my automatic actually really I'd like to Where do you follow the time travel thing in terms of I could beat you two people just think about time. Travel so cavalierly like go. You go back in time and you gotta be careful not to anything you gotta do this you go to that, but does anyone? I never hear anyone about how number one your got flora would be totally for. You first of all, be vomiting and shooting for the first few days, Uncas yeah

smells you would not be accustomed to milk much setting higher time vital and also that the water, the food like you, wouldn't be You wouldn't be adjusted to the huge you'd, get sick and die. I think, within three years a wonderful example that sort of talks about that. Contrary to really really good point, you cannot makes MRS Kosovo, bread anywhere but San Francisco, because if you tried to take the EAST starter force, empties go sourdough to let's say Denver. Colorado you'd probably get two or three loaves out of it before the local fought Flora took over yet because they have is that we'd, its location specifically exactly Louise and Ankara? That's so yet these things would be very. Very localize. You're totally right about will weaken, thinks he's, cracked, the sour dough code.

Really well he's, but you become a bread maker and the way I did not know about what they got. It was like. I think I crack the sour dough code, cracked, it I had a couple of batches, it didn't work, but then I think practice so I don't know will things he may have granted outside of several years ago, but you're right, the local look a floor will always look show its recent. I mean that there are other sour dough. Starters did the other thing, though, that I like to think about time travel because I definitely agree with you, it would stink and as a movie, I'm Peter Greenaway Draftsmans contract. Ok is a weird wonderful movie, but it's the only movie from that period, like sixteen seventeenth century, where could really see that everyone stunk, like the edges all there, those were gray at their bait, like their benchmark stink. Who is, though, first smell, I would imagine, probably be like yet to seventeen year olds, dorm rooms, kind of stick on your average human and the second day like scooped, a deer leg out of the dirt

out of a cold dirt in just to root out a fire like you would never it. I mean we watched naked and afraid alive, and even that just me like how are these people not shooting their guts out Rahul. The time is right and also how much we are not involved. We have. We have devolved, from being animals into complete creatures of comfort. We would not really know how to survive if we had to router, but on the other hand, though counterpoint there's a couple, a great books that I read the last couple years: Mary Beards aspects you are, which is kind of a wonderful tight history of Rome, from like five hundred BC, two two hundred eighty who then there's a book called it a day in the life of Rome and in both of those cases. As I read about ancient Rome, I feel ass. If you were zapped back to on onto a street two thousand, you

The most surprising thing would be that it's all super familiar well, and you know it's often you see that cause. We just went to ITALY and we went to her colonial, which is the sister city to pump pay out. Regularity M was a much Marla circulating was sort of the Malibu of the day. Was a small wealthy, be community? Ok and it's really fascinating here because when Vesuvius erupted upon pay was essentially flash fry in hot ass rats, where you have all those people who were like you now, and then they got turn into like talker shells in Herculaneum because of their location. The volcano centrally created a wet weather patterns and rather than being flash ride by hot ash. They were buried, in white hot mud. So there was They soon nobby a hot mud, so they they were all basically cooked to death as but those postal friar bought boil by modest most right. So in

minute at seventeen hundred, they began excavating it, and so it's just the whole town. It's excavated annexed to what you said is exactly right day. There were blocks. There were streets, there were street sides, you can see like You know some of the insides of the of the homes were are still intact, so you can see like these gorgeous frescoes in the title and before they had plumbing they had public fountains. There were lunch counters on every corner rages. Had these earns these giant earns on a counter, and for others, like the carries like a perfect like shop signs, it was very much exactly like just a little less technological out. Of course, all the plumbing pipes were led, but you know also, if you are poor, you lived on the high floors. Because that's you, where you lived was based on how quickly you could escape your building up an apparent?

in other words, people who lived on the gravel that sort of reverse another. If people are to be up high, but it is, but it is your right there it it's. Definitely. You know in cultures that there were a little more evolve, but if you are just dropped into the since the middle ages or something you know you absolute lady, somewhere in the Middle European, six and fourteen seventy, a puppy feel just like china- and you know you beat, does all these places where it would be surpassingly primitive, but I don't I don't. I don't think I think of it. If I were to go back in time the couple of things I would problem, Bring Peppino like you'd want to bring in the south, because diarrhoea couldn't million total it has killed it. I remember looking up a number at one point of how many diaries killed. So many people over the course of his appears to have an amazing bit about diarrhoea. About like going like. There was a time you just get diarrhea and like you just do not gonna make it

If you got diarrhoea you, you don't survive it. I've been thinking about, I believe, a diary recently and its evidence, because It's because odor dweller no longer seems to sell their super protein drink. Their old super protein like one of their first smoothly. Protein drinks they sell of vanilla Super protein, which I love, but I have to admit tastes exactly like Cato Pact clearly, I'm kind of recreational reliving, my childhood by drinking this done is a mere does ever Russian word look like the word Caille packed. I totally agree. I we all know that respect your novel was counteracted by harbour no care penguin, stupid americanized to see the work they are practically with. I got a letter, that's reverse told, but it it it. It is it's a little things that we started that we take for granted because we are so spoiled now that you know, if you think

try to figure out like what? What what would you bring if you were a naked and afraid like what would cause I've come to bring something I've had to bring a thing. I think they usually give you a flint, so you can sort of fire. Did anyone rife somewhat person can bring an you D. Your thing, yeah or you can bring a mosquito nets. Bring a knife. That's also got a chainsaw at the other. It's just like a total utility earthly. You can pull at ten. Out of it, and that is a hill, is you can hold it off the ground for a minute yeah? Did you go getting you guys? It's one point that you just try to build. This mega is Jamie Height of chicken that how can I operate specifically under the exact words you used? I I I really feel like. I would pay, may be seven figures to watch you and Jamie GO and naked and afraid together just to see like I almost just to this type of information I dont want they handle by the way, may count

clothing, I'm not out of a sector that may, if you're, not gonna, get you don't you got that killed under these. Maybe she think it's down there in order to emerge from a distance. He looks like I don't know. We quotation, and you're, drunk councils clothes. I'm sorry! You can't work collaborate on their corroborate, but I just I I do often feel dwarfed by the idea that most of us have no real hands on skill. Which is what you specialised. Yes and you know a lot of times doing? Sat up until the last people like what job do you have? Do you think that would help you in the apocalypse and most people's jobs? The answer is no You know I t know are getting no, you know people who work in construction, people who, like plumbers, like ok, we're like the fuckin president of the apocalypse with that skills that so what types of skills should people cultivate to feel

they can only survive and apocalypse. So here's the thing I'm about to make. You feel great if you were feeling a little less than with your hands skills, because one of the things I like to say is that the gateway drug for me into learning how to make also two different things and solve different problems was theatre, the cedars, a great gateway drug for making, because there is a low threshold entry. Your high school drama club is looking for people, that's where I found my people when I started working professionally in theatre means. You know you had every every. You ran the game it from the Opera House, where I was a significant union gig to these tiny black box eaters run by a bunch of people who are still tripping from last night, and in that I came to understand when, when film showed up, I took the film job because a doubled, my income, Gray Theatre, couldn't pay the rent, but I have always held an abiding love for theatre. As what I point out, it is the first art form that would survive and apocalypse intact, because when we

with whatever two hundred people were left and allay when we all gathered together, we'd, be telling stories and then we'd be performing, though stories for each other, because that's what humans do right and that's a really important, unnecessary human need, although even though, as builders and theatre you're, just building fake things, your building the fronts of things you're, not building the whole thing now that you're packing the narratives of our hearts, so sure you're going to be asked to do a few jokes in Newport gas. Yes, yes, they're gonna need a comedy, and the apocalypse now they're gonna need they're. Gonna need some sort of when the world become gallows, humor. You realize how many peoples to hobble their limbs show of hands up. Sorry no show of hands, but a, but I also were my wife ordered all this survival stuff. Oh yeah, you know so we had like you know, she's like ok, so you know that this is all good for, like fifteen,

That's it up what book I felt. So this is something that I. What because yet oh yeah, I started worry about our culture and our civilization right now, I'm very worried, insignificant ways, and one of the things I ve been thinking about is in the in a guilty. Add like so collapse of our economy. Who lets say someone took over the banks like what is what is gonna be the important thing. I've got Shopful a tool, so don't worry about that. But do I want six weeks where the food or creates and creates a chocolate bar or your iron

and still more, my iron man suit where it could be the sites- are things that people are bartering with me in the apocalypse you could sort of make. You could make things you can now take a currency. I just I remember a friend of mine is to go to the Rainbow family gatherings with a sort of, I guess. A precursors virtually to burning man. Ok does would be groups of people that would gather informally in national parks around the country to a few times a year, and it was all barter based just burning men, and he said the chocolate bars were like what would make you king pin at the at them at the Rainbow family gather access. Figured village on the by the Bye wheat to a chocolate bar was worth like twenty five dollars. Oh yeah, I hadn't thought about that. Just a little bit of some type of pleasure, that's reminiscent of the old worlds. Well, we might you read about them: Vicki Kilt, Vichy collateral. You know you read about like the collaborators in France during World WAR two and like the tiny comforts, They would find solacing yeah. I hate that I'm thinking on like that,

This allows users to talking about your brain. We don't know you know, we don't know a million years ago. I had this crush on this girl and it was never reciprocated, but I did get one lovely in chromium from her since she was lying in bed late at night, but her boyfriend and they were in their pillow talk just as twenty five year olds might do. He was like there is a huge earthquake or nuclear attack. Would you come to my house and she said No, I'm gonna savages elites use be another step, let's do it, but I really thought you were going to differ way with the I'm, like I'm so embarrassed that I'm gonna hurt the stupidest joke that, but it just popped into my You said a million years ago I had a crushing the girl. She was Austria, Pythagoras, Emily, there's gotta be an anthropologist Joan I in their use, only forfeit wash sport, but one area not fully erect yet but progress problem

Oh no arena, but who lie to judge? Who am I to judge your reminding me of the greatest dirty joke? I have heard in a long time: ok and it's a Jimmy Car Oak. Of course, the best only god- and I realise that what beautiful about this joke it is, it is severely dirty, and yet there is no harmed party within the joke when it is rare for a dirty job which, as he says, every I go to the gym. I'm shocked at how much bigger my penises than every other man's at the changing room in fairness, it is completely erect the fact that I would put that in them happy with that. This Bob saga joke? I had my mom space tattooed on my ask as it was you living. It would start my dad from, but fighting me you, you, you told a joke to my wife and I left

harder to hinder headlong tat. Hard really is that I was actually very worried about both of you. In fact, when we repeated that choke a year later for someone else, we both laughed again so hard because a second time to injuries like the laughs, but then the tears of game trembling. Flung Ferguson confirm for me what you said. Why? Because you said Bob doesn't tell that joke because he loosed the audience loves the job. They laugh within the halo right, yea Ferguson said: yeah, there's a whole class of joke. You can tell her. You lose the audience once their upset, whether they have half the audience will laugh because half the audience has like a really. You know like that kind of sense of humour and the other half is confused because they're like I am I allowed. I dont know: It's like the jokes were people dont know how they're supposed to feel like people cut a need to know. You know, even if something crosses align as long as that part of the agreement, but when something just cry: the line and away where people like. I don't know how I am. I ok my bad, if I

that you know them by that point. That's an interesting cultural moment. I know when you get into a room, she gets dark, Faz, yeah, yeah yeah and you guys really push those limits with each other. But yes, the space you existence? Will company is a little bit like like when you were a kid and your wrestling with cousin or a sibling or whatever, and it's fun until it isn't? It's like it's fun until right, gets wasted and like back and then it gets serious because it's like it play play play until someone gets her, and so that's where it kind of can go sideways, but that's what's that's the tightrope walk, I think of some of its that's really fastening right, because it is you you're taking them right to the edge of safety. Yes and and sometimes you get hurt, and so this is actually about adjust.

The different podcast? Sorry, I'm two timing, you damage, but one of the things I was saying it was that I've come to believe that comedy and magic are the two most immediately rigorous forms of narrative storytelling who, because they have instant sticks through a lot of narrow storytelling, has long term stakes but they're they're, not immediate, but comedy magic, dont work unless you get the laughing at the surprise, yup, but, and I've always known that magicians hold their audience in this kind of very interesting. Safe space right, like I'm, pushing reality in front of you in a way that makes you feel a little strange, but it's ok, I'm holding you tight at this juncture and needed to help me realize media are also doing the same thing. We're gonna trade to the edge of except ability to examine these concepts in what we really think about them in unique ways that challenge the way you think of a year and then also, but

when you one for commands who do dance right on the edge. A couple things can happen, sometimes, which is sometimes jokes that are achieved. Culture kind of like evolves so far ass them that they don't that their very benign. That's like all that! considered edgy at one point eight, but then the reverse can happen, which is the cultural attitudes, yeah hold back and then other summits. How could those people say that thing? You know it's like the guy who, at the time you know like it, just what it was a different. It was different, you know, and so that that those are the dangers that you that a comic has you know whether their dancing around on on. I would like that type of that type of company, but also, I don't think stand up, was meant to be permanent like In fact I dont think stand up was ever really meant to be four? any other audience in the audience that came to see it in that one show, because it is in your forming in it

in community right and so the moment it's a moment, and so when you put it on video burbage problem or whatever- which obviously all comedians due to help promote their stand up, and it does get the comedy out suitable, the number of people, but also there is something that is there's a layer of separation. Were you weren't, a part of the diet? Immediate commute me, and so it's just that it's just a little bit different. It's fast, my kids, don't understand. Sti Martens old stand up. Humor at all rightly gets to them. It's like what alien universe could this be from, and how did you ever think this? Funny yes, and the answer is it was. It was so impressively radical at that point. So like it's funny that you say him in particular because of demeanour, he was always my idle. He was the reason ever wanted to do. Stand up he's my number one in terms of like I didn't know that yet, and so I was watching one of his early appearances, unsymmetrical ass. They permitting seventy three

where seventy three seventy three its before you blew up. He had only just. He was a rider. He had just been start. Appear at some tv shows he's getting a little attraction, but he was not steep Barton. There. You know there s an old concert act, so his hair was stuck. Like almost you're really dark, and he did this bed. He did a bit about doing stand up for dogs, and so he because the thing was it. He was always like sat arising performance, which is just not something that people really doing at the time. So he had for dogs in front of him on the international stage and he was like your human. You're not gonna get this. If you have a pack, your private column in right Now- and you will see the laugh like that- never lap before You know so egos. He starts doing jokes for these Ford dogs. A final rover wagon industry and one of them the animal food- like this is unfit for humans. No one laughs and then the reverse camera cuts to a close up of the dogs faces. Who just aren't reacted.

Or who are looking confused and then everyone fuckin, who's it and then so the dogs start getting up and walking around until he's playing with that, but it was one of the most exe. Mental things. I've ever seen on a show where traditionally people just did really tight, jokes and he audience at first didn't know what to make of him. What brave It was so it was such a risky baldy thing to do at that time. When there were so, I loved his book not yet born setting up new. I read it. I my wife and I, during a long road trip around the southwest. We read it to each other the car, and then we got the audio book and listen to him. Read it the other, my only problem with him reading it isn't, he doesn't actually do his bits. He

most, does he almost absolute? He doesn't go full hog. Had I wanted him to I mean which is funny because in the book you sort of explains. Why, like it's funny, you sort of talking about why he doesn't do had stuff anymore, so it's understandable that he wouldn't, but you still want him to wait till it's a lovely bit of of recapitulation, because there's not many people who achieved real cultural icon stand in a field and then didn't talk about it for decades and also when you understand how deeply opposite they will. You know like how much of a character was right and how deeply shocked in the social anxiety, and now you know about it, such as the ideal. I think when that boy came out. That's not! I don't think that was really something. A lot of comedians were necessarily, talking a lot about a really open about books about ten years old there, and so I mean like none of the big Super comedian, yet our generation of convenience, that's all we find

you know why I didn't, and so what use is to really is really trusting to sort of to see like to understand why, He doesn't know when I loved the idea that the intellectual idea of that he was looking to expend extend that space between the set up in the punch line to this long, thin thread of absurdity and also to make people laugh, but not, but put them in a position where they couldn't really understand why they were laughing so their resolve. It was almost like confuse his humour or, like I'm everything, that's what I'm looking at. You know he also its it really was it like his his tonight Chopin, this is because they get weirder inward. When any, does he doesn't these weird card tricks like these weird company Carter but John, even Johnny, in eighteen, seventy three seems amused by him, but also like doesnt, quite know what social here

work at the magic store at Disneyland as a teenager, and a friend of mine is a wonderful magician who met Steve at a at a gathering, and my friend is a master close at magician. He was doing some close of magic and Steve came over and he said you mind. If I have a go at the carts and my friend said I watched him grabs the cards. Do a couple moves it's all. I needed to see to know that he's a terrific magician and a great juggler and a great banjo player, I greatly dawn and ate it. It's like everything Everley, but it oh by the way his life, his show with Martin Short was grey. Was it I got to see alive, but it's on Netflix. Now in its the great, but I do your kind of making you realize what it is that I think that binds nerds together, which is an appreciation of craft people. Appreciate that you

have a skill where you can build literally almost anything. They would appreciate the technical prowess of close up magic. They would appreciate the technical. The skill involved in bluegrass like there's so many things that that makes sense to me about how these things us over Largo is the example of like it's the magnet for people. Who are upset about craft, it's totally true and AIDS. Actually, that's the story that I that's the best kind of. Ultimately, the story of each episode of Savage built is one of the early titles in my head, which doesn't work for world war. Two reasons was the collaborator because it means we exist in this, a culture that is obsessed with the idea of a singular creator, and I grew up with that. Myth, Agraea the myth of my dad being a singular creator and it's a total met and I've been lucky enough to meet a couple of single creators- and they are, they are absolutely rare right, there

I'll be out of the blue survive without collaboration like hermit Herbert who just generate unbelievable things just from themselves. Right of most have was of all of humanity. We have to work with each other right I wanted to build a show in which I was bringing in different people to play with every week, and you got to see different types of collaboration, different things that I would learn from the collaboration and also whenever I encounter somebody who is deeply obsessed, They do. I get super excited about what I'm gonna learn when they open that door. Show me the inside. So when you really unpack Savage, builds a show about chemistry, yeah, oh wow, yeah, because Europe is everyone that comes in you create a different. They are different.

Molecule, different formulae. You know you and when you have em, when you have a thing that you do and you bring other people into it, you always have to do a bit of care taking up their coming into your house. Yeah there's something really the second time I did Crick Ferguson's show he came up to Jamie because I thought that was ok, I hate doing any sure. That's not my another, such a lovely, a gift, this is totally through when you're on someone else's snow. It's always like a little bit of a little bit scary and you know so bringing people into this show and- putting them in an environment where we were actually going to be figuring, stuff out on the fly, yeah cameras or role and did not always work out but that makes me wonder about wind. Emit busters was quite the security blanket for alone. Time you always knew you were going to go back to each season. You always know it's like yeah I'm a juggernaut from you were a juggernaut. There was like ok we're set for a while, and then

The show ends. Did you sort of feel? Did you feel relieved? Or did you start to feel like who am I? What am I gonna do? What's my identity, what how do I work again and for four, how I navigated the first few months after the show ended? I have Paget Brewster to think well, because I was a backstage at a thrilling venture, our show at Largo, YO and patched coasts. Ah, sweetie you show is ending after how long thirteen years or so you're gonna go crazy. She was like you lose you gotta criminal yeah. She said I did that show for six years and when it ended, like I lost my mind with just the

the stability of doing the same thing every day I was like, but I have a freelance sprain. I've always been wondering. What's next year's executive matter, you ve been doing the thing I think a subtle allowed. The shifting your life is going to feel totally destabilizing and yeah I mean it was. It was quite difficult. I m still figuring it out right. That was fourteen years of my life, or we made the chauffeur forty two hundred plus shooting busier for fourteen years. Jesus did just wasn't a stop, so I spent the last two years doing justice protested. Savage builds was back into that kind of production. We did sixty weeks twelve hour days for four months, which was brutal.

I really I dont want the second season to have the same catch up. I was in my authorities when we started making their lustre- oh my god that so crazy right, that's crazy and so really part of what I am. What I'm considering is leg know. How do I want these days and weeks and months and years to kind of play themselves out rightly Miss Busters was a tremendous amount of work and it was a train I got on before. I knew it was going right and then I just went with it, but now I'm driving these trains and they still have all sorts of masters to serve and different things too, I once, but the question still remains for me as the creator and and and the locus of this of like how do I want these days? Ok, I don't wanna do twenty days again, cassettes really hard on entire crew. Yes, it's hard on you too, and its heart emotionally in and also you know as we as waste.

Start, to get older canna having these existential thoughts of existing. How I want to spend like bless you don't hopefully thirty years of my life when I look back, we both know people who are driven to ridiculous degrees like I've heard stories but beyond, say landing from a red eye and doing a two and a half hour. Complete concert rehearsal that she doesn't have to do at the at the four hundred percent. She does it, but you can argue with results that hat. You cannot resolve absolutely cats that, like when you look at the most successful people, someone MIKE lucky once or twice, but for the people who sustain success and stay at the top, it is people don't. I think I dont think people

if anyone is like, I want to be like the outsides like, but do you write because do you would you want to sacrifice as much of your life yourselves? His too have to be able to to maintain that level of perfection? It's real and it's a bet. I love what they do. I love what she does and I you know I watch the documentary on and cable of, Bruce Springsteen, recording darkness of the edge of town and saw this it's amazing. So this, like twelve song, album they took two years and recorded over sixty songs summit. Five and six times in all different John rose to choose these twelve stocks. Twelve fourteen our days, the ban talks about it openly as justice gruelling. Slaw Anderson Amazing Albert. I watch that those like that. It's not me. No, I want to go home at five. Third, or six o clock. I had a dinner and I wanted that allowing is like do you know when you're young, I think, you're a hungry, and you want to be moving

Remember, I think a lot of you like I want to be the best I wanna be the biggest. I want to be the most of the whatever it's the super, let it is, and it is certainly right. You're like, but I do know lake, wouldn't it be great to have fun in this visit. Gus quote from Spielberg about the seventies. Where he's like. I was great. We were all single and had no responsibilities, and all of us just did nothing but work. When also there was I just hope that the whole of the nineteen seventeen born. No and I think when you're young is exactly when

A unilateral snow peers are you're just on a cold train that never that just keeps going round the world. Now. I never did that drugs. So I just I never. I was never a drug guy now, so I don't I don't know, but when you're young is when it's time to buster ass those crazy our right and do that and it is it like. I don't know how I got on describe what I feel it is an apology for networking harder right, but the EU is in it to me that bout that life work balance is really important, and so actually, when ministers first became ahead when it first with clear this train was going for a while, as you know, when you, when you have a successful, show your corp, you have power with your corporate parent. Did you did you did four and that power is weird because you could talk laterally to any, you could talk to anyone within the hierarchy right and so what do you do that power? What you don't

you don't use unless you really know what you want with it right, and the only thing I did with it for years was just expand our suiting schedule, so we had by the end, I think more than ten shooting gaze prophesied, which was such a luxury, and it really allow me in Jamie and must have our crew to go home every night, like six o clock to keep regular out. Because the alternative was would be when say normal, like cable shows, is you know even walking. She's an episode in like seven or eight days right and their shooting these long days there got to cruise back to back overlapping there. Everything has a cost and I think people when they think what they want in life. They don't ever do like the spreadsheet cost benefit analysis of like. What's it really gonna cost to achieve this time and wondered what a life cos you don't ever calculate the life costs and we just flash forward to the results, the like and then I'm being carried out on everyone's shoulders and their toasting gold, Jim

in oh, I love the stores were Clint Eastwood, making like making his deep he's work with a year to lights. You can have just to that the move on diet. You maybe makes this crucial. Ninety five, apparently and then my music, it's like a film, is not worth ruining your life. Oh yeah. I mean it it because I'm not and a great people like, I'm not denigrating the fourteen our days be everyone, but everyone should just be aware that that is it place and what are the costs of that choice? And do you what what comes with that, as you never you know It is always that sort of like fustian clause of like you know I want to be, I really want to be when I want to address in some dollars and then like someone, shoot your legs often and accidents, ok, no millions of dollars, but it cost you something out. But there is an old John Stewart joke when the first guy who circumvent

you did the globe in a plane landed somewhere in Africa and John Stewart was telling about it on the daily show, and he goes He was joined when he land by his wife and children and he complimented home behove much this children. The problem is that we pay attention to. Well, that's the thing you know it's like you know when is in our sort of talking about like well, you know when winter kids gonna come into the picture I don't want to be the I don't wanna, be it the available dad whose so, like you know, sir, I can't talk, dad's, Jason, his dreams run. It is not run away from use Jason, his dream, he was issued. Everything that looks like the same looks like not like this that you still see the Baghdad said from a distance, but he's Jason his dreams. You know I don't necessarily, I want to figure out like what that balances, because it feels like any person. Who gets older, whether or not they have material success or not, they always cut

did the same thing of like it's fine, but maybe I wish I'd taken more time. Have a birthday party or hang out with friends or talk to people. You know I can't take all this like. I can't I can't take all of my movie that. I bought an auctions with me right now. I could be buried in dark helmet. I could be better. I could be buried in my dark helmet, so maybe other than that it also becomes. It becomes harder to make friends when you're older yanking, adult friends is weirder, because you start to become very specific about the kinds crazy? You can overlap with yet and also you know when you're here, well he's. When we were young, you talk to people on the phone. It feels a weird for an adult to call another adult me like hey. What are you doing? Why? Recalling nations that when I watch what do you want

going to see how you do it, and also can you appear at a thing for my liking school? Is it so strange to me? Well, I have a theory, all sales pitch of certain strange, how much calling cold calling someone is now an act of aggression. It's really aggressively. Always why are you up his job? I'm not even get, and I just don't, even though I don't know I don't if you got my last message, but I was just why are you so? I have a theory about why and I think it's all about the delay. I think it's about the what's called latency between what I say in what you here and

when I was a kid? The latency was almost non existent phones, role, landlines and the copper wire went right to my girlfriends house and when we were talking we had effectively. I looked it up something length: seven milliseconds of latency, seven, thousands of the second well. So this basically none I've. I can hear the room she's in she can hear mine, it's an intimate conversation, but when you called people overseas in the seventies and eighties, it was always like about a quarter of a second two hundred fifty millisecond delaying, and it was you joked about how hard it was to talk to someone in England browser that delay will. Currently, our phones have between a hundred and a hundred and two hundred and fifty milliseconds of delay, oh really gap, and that delay is part of the process post processing that happens from the sound signal. It happens in your phone and they ve prioritized actually to they can prioritize call called quality. Like this debate that the sound of my vote,

or the latency, but doing both is you you have to make an and you have to make a call guy and they prior phone companies up till now have prioritized the quality, but not the latency, and I submit that the latency is what makes talking on the phone awful and here's my example. You talk to your wife at the end of a long shooting day and it's a rhythm, hey, maybe hastily. How are you I'm good? How was your day with great I'm sure we meet at the thing for dinner. Yeah see their love, you buy that's a rhythmic normal relationship conversation but try and have a fight with your partner on the self. Oh really get it got a guy. I know you know. I know you right, you can't get to a rhythm because you can actually interrupt or you can actually respond in real time. What that's why fuckin conference calls, or the word we learned a staple there's silence. She's gonna, give up quota was out of sight no you're gonna, seven dollars about

and the knows everything. Ok, so should I buy you know it's like you: can we use it as a rhythm where one point two years? The thing we did with the power when we were had show, we told discovered like if you wanna conference, call you gotta by another day of production. You just gotta. Does it take so much of our time to be in a specific location and specific time, and things rarely get solved on conference calls though they just you're just reading me the email you sent me yesterday. How many times do you Santa Conference, garlic able disconnect about this offline? Ok, we couldn't However, I am of are obviously most met. Somebody comes closer. Someone reading me the email they sent yesterday, yes edits and ensured in you. Don't you also don't know the only way you know.

Someone's phone has dropped out is because here that permitting like, when they all came what you messed up high sorry there there was this old comedy bit done for a canadian advertising festival, culture in advertising and it just the opening joke of. It was my favorite, which is bunch of ad exact sitting around a conference table in the phone in the middle, and you hear the guy on that phone and he goes out that the best approach to repeat everything. You said in the first call shuffle the words around events like the other chicks because governments, whether they are designed to make it seem like something's happening here,

and the more people on a conference call make. It gives the impression that it's more important and therefore of more value, so I've heard I just heard a really interesting thing from my friend anneal dash of glitch about video conference calls, and it turns out there's this new paradigm, apparently among some people who are starting to understand that, if your gun that it's bad to have some people at a conference table and others dialing an ant video, because the people in the room tend to prioritize the others that are in the meat space shore and so at which apparently, they now try and be rigorous about if there's gonna be people dying in for video every one thousand from video, oh just the sort of a level playing field got it yeah I mean I do the thing that I dont like about face ever video colleagues, because I feel like you're, always look.

Get yourself or civil war is not so settling to feel, like someone's looking at you and you're, not looking at them looking at the care of like if there was a way to make the scream the lens somehow. Well it somehow, when we you know. I just read: fall Neil Milsom since new book, ok and he he posits several futures up to like about a hundred and fifty years in the future. I think, a hundred years in the future, to overtake about twenty years in the future, is where we no longer have laptops or fought everything's in our last week, because it because it mission The interface of the machine hasn't really changed that knowledge since the typewriter, and so I feel it people behave like machines, because the machines are forcing us to interface like machine I, so it's very deep. Some alyzia, so it's very easy to you know to be for people to be sure to each other line, because there

the machine and their leaned over the machine, and that that we're almost kind of labour by machine were alike. There is already a kind of a terminator ask machine dominance. Our humanity because were forced to Your face, like indentured, essentially o dark in us, and so like. I feel that the future is going to have to be more augmented stuff for things that are more just woven into like, but humans are gonna, have to take back the interface and make them more human and less machine oriented. I totally agree that is holding into glasses contacts whatever augmented reality is the thing I'm most excited about, and I've just started. I got the actual costs have actually been playing games for the first time in my life yeah, I'm super into super hot dena, but no super. How does a vcr game in which so you'll be zapped into a level and you're standing in a room, a white room, and there are some low rest red figures around you jump and none of them are more

And there's a gun in front of you and as you reach and these these figures, let's say they all have guns in there all down as you reach for the gun, they all start to move and what you realises time doesn't move until you do. Oh that's fucked up so that you reach for the gun and one of them was the trigger a bullets. Come reducing stop moving in the bullet stops, so you move your head out of the way of the bullet and then the southern bullets coming from over. Here you gotta get to your gun in your real. It's literally like the matrix. You are literally dodging bullets, while grabbing guns and shooting people, but everytime you shoot them you're moving time, You know I saw ITALY. Will I really want to do the urban? I just need the framework tune in to get better, so I dont want to throw up. After seven I have one of the weakest stomachs known an oculist classed as not bothering me now. I do get bothered specific things like being moved in game lingual when you're on a conveyor belt or your big sapped here that I dont like, and I like super hot, because it's got none of that. You are always kind of standing in place. What do you think

Futures can smell like we know the past is thinking, is the future gonna be sticky is again a smell industrial is going to smell, cleaner, isn't gonna smell, you know like Are we going to? Are we going to infuse? Are we going to have some type of odd sense reality like a century reality where we can create the types of odors that we want to experience. You know that still such a weird area, Neil Stevenson, who just forgot his book, I know him, and he was talking about the apparent leads. The way we smell operates at a quantum level like D the sensors in our nose or actually operating at a quantum level to detect sense. That is almost might be impossible to replicate mechanically, which totally bizarre to me. It is that it did

I mean like we obviously don't have the technology, but merely a quantum computer companies becomes more of a thing I mean a world look. I only hope that the swiss future does not smell a gasoline Michael small I'd, say within fifty years, has a good chance of. I think we're probably get a day of this kind, but I also think like it does trip me out to think that whatever. I am smelling, I just assume that there is a shared agreement on what that smell is right, but I dont know what use my camp ever possibly know basically imprisoned by our own yeah by micro gas option. But how do we know a red is red, etc. A man with a variety of other hand, look out. Oh. I know that this destabilized, like what you see, is tat

maybe what you see looks like our guard may put the crazy. You know a government also, that's actually fall. Millstones is because really amazing pacifically, because its posits the first uploaded business into our digital frame, and I dont want to spoil it because he's he goes in a really cool direction. Ok, yeah our rights really worth reading, I'm totally in I'm so excited about your show. I mean, of course, I value on Instagram. So I see you posting all this shit that your building and I've been in your I'm sure this is a different matter, but I've been in your I've, been in your garage, hobby garage you ve been in the cave, I've been in the case you ve been, is I've been in? There came a few times, and I love that you have basically just been on a path it seems like since used since use.

I did and theatre of whittling down more and more and more. What is the essence of what you are passionate about. You know and with Miss permit. Busters are alive these certainly like big ideas and a lot of big scientific principles and a lot of testing of things. And now it's just you know. What can I make? How do I craft this thing well- and I also commensurate with that- is telling that story over and over and over again, because I want everyone to experience the joy I have in making things from scratch watchmen to cut like so in may I came out with a book called every tools. A hammer life is what you make it, and it's about me and my history making for the philosophy of how I set up a shot, but it's also a permission slip to the audience to the reader. To do that thing that they want to try. So I remember will wheaten telling me about being your roommate college. The night you said, I think I'm gonna go try this open.

And it's amazing that right, there's a witness to that moment in your life. That. You guys share that incredible history. Together There is also a moment of inflection at that moment where he might have said fucking Idiot, that's stupid thing to do die, go near that and that might have really mattered at that moment of change. The whole course of your lie absolutely, but you had somebody next. You whose like do it well will is also a guide. Ed wood was constantly trying things I mean. I lived with him through his. You know he wanted to De J raves for a while, so any also had the money at the time I like to so he bought this incredible dj set up and he was had turntables room. You know, and he went through this incredible. I compare, affects phase and moved to Kansas for awhile and worked with video Telstra people, and so he was all the guy who was constantly like trying to see like because if we

don't you just try should on ours. Has its feel you know, and so yes, I was very high- was very happy and very lucky with that, but with you meticulous, you are, I think, your your mass appeal for something that on paper might be like this is too niece you in practical application, you're, really kind of the nexus of art and science. There's like a real art to your science, and almost two sides to the art as well, and that that is a a unique thing in our world, and I think What makes it so appealing to work, and that's the other story that I keep wanting to tell, which is that I don't think, there's any real difference between art and science and am I I submit that

we say things or Norton science, we actually literally placing them at opposite ends of the spectrum. Yeah we're saying there this, but there also that's yes, but when I came to understand and what I think every kind of geeky science nerd understands in their sole is that these are both just methods that we use for telling story but how to understand the world right and one is arguably more emotionally based and what is arguably more rigorous, but they deeply Venice to each other either way. Press him. Right of you ever saw brain of activity. Martin, his play Picasso Laploshka, one of my favorite theatrical experts the vessel Einstein meets Picasso and they're, both given like thirty seconds to write something down and you know I'd say, writes a bunch of numbers and then Picasso makes a painting and they're trying to determine who's. That is the best. I guess- and

So like that I'd say that goes. That's just a formula and I'd think goes. So is that, like? Oh, my god, it's fucking, amazing! You know it's like that kind of that idea. That you know that there is so much cross over in those two things. Are so inter connected, but I never thought about it in terms of storytelling expressed in that way I was doing. I was doing Neil digressed hastens pod. Couple weeks ago in New York and his right hand Chagas stand of comedian, and we were talking about scientific experimentation, and I was like What are you doing when you're workshop in material at a club, you're iterating? I DE as you're gonna rating concepts and seeing which ones work in which ones don't that's at its. I insist that if it approach to convey the scientific method, you have a hypothesis. I wonder if this joke work. Yes playing bathrooms are weird if they are weird. Let me go tell this to see if the science of the audience supports this: no, they do not. Yes, they do here's. What I need to do

so every comedian is working scientists in a way. Yeah yeah I mean that's, that's a good way to make a speech, More importantly, I remember telling reckon but jokes on stage. I just want everyone like when, when you take your point of view- and you are lucky enough to have a career in which you can take that point of view and make something with it that exists, that people will experience and it may change their minds or it may give them a new viewpoint. Every time you take your point of view and make something whether it's a poem or a dress or a table. You are actually being part of your culture and that's a power. That's a genuine real power when you're surfing your stuff on your phone, you are, you are consuming, but when you make something your contributing in expressing and expressing and to me, humans are at our best when we are doing the ladder

I'm a consumer dislike anybody else, I'm as addicted to this thing is anybody, and yet I like my goal- is that every kid gets to understand the power of doing of of exploring their own point of view to see in what she seen what they could make him contribute to the consumer. Of consumerism is in and of itself as a call to sack because slave, because, if you don't, if you dont re, expressed something then you're just basically caught in a loop and you're, not you're, right you're, not necessarily part of the rest of you know that the human experience you're just eating. Yet you know where your did. Your brain is just eating. We talk in it. I worked in a toy industry for awhile and we talked about toys at that point. It was the late nineties, and toys were just coming on line that were much smarter, much better. Electronics, the quote played themselves. Oh

class of kids toys that you like bought, put batteries and push the button, and it would dance for you right and that then you just looked at is no play going on yeah you're just staring at a thing. My let us create a story with it. You know right, maybe there's a way to create a story with that. Well, that's what I think is that what things happening now with the maker movement, I think the electronics like when I was a kid electronics, where a black box you didn't mess with those, you didn't adjust the result. Radio, shack and you'd fuck and build a mutant, put a wire and aware potato, and that was your brain, hurry? Now you like, oh, I can by fifteen dollar. I can buy a desktop computer for fifteen dollars, that's on a card and I can Rupert turn it into a robot can navigate a room by itself. Will now we all know it now we're getting back into leg, get having skills that, hopefully, would you know where were we, hands and I think people are thirsty for that they are and we need a friend of mine councils, he councils, homeless, youth and teaches them how to cook.

To give them a life skills and a job and potentially employable skill and one of the things he said. More and more lately is kids ashore, and they literally barely know how to hold a pencil because it's all phone base now I don't mean to show Jen, wire, millennials or anything. Because I am a firm believer. Will personal there's going to pump, hey, there's graffiti on a wall in Palm Paleo AIDS about kids. These dates get well there's also graffiti about like there's, also like graffiti about blowjobs of really, oh, my God, there such porn agree. Think graffiti and palm pay, where it's like one you know where a guy like you know, sworn off women forever its men's bums. For me from here. I think it's like there's like super interests like gas station right bathroom graffiti. Whenever change right now, we'd, never

But the other reason I'm shooting millennials is because we have really left them very good planet extra, good planet jeez, yes about that guy is simply a matter of general. Why are bad figured well sort of February, a kick in the ball down the field? I was a kid I was gonna. Have that hope? You don't mind that last minute. You know role of seven unlike seventy years old, like good, they finally cured cholesterol, eggs everybody about by twenty five years, the lava thing for that sea. Now, maybe maybe they will. I can always wherever by love to talk to you about the full really quickly about as a reference to your book, the philosophy of setting up your work stay, because even if someone is it not a builder, everyone has some sort of space or words nation, and so what is the philosophy? to establish a work, environment to optimize productivity, a sense of safe.

Feeling good. You know, like all that's it all comes down to self awareness outcomes under watching yourself, and I mean for me one of the most key moments in my life and my emotional life as a human was appointed, which I realise that I could react in the moment to things that were happening or I could step back one level and there are multiple levels, but deck is set at one level and watch myself and see why I'm having these reactions to these things and unpack those reactions theirs, it does a buddhist phrase that between stimulus and response is all of our freedom. We have a choice that moment from the stimulus before we respond and yell at our mom, or this is a very stoic ideas. Well stoic herself stoicism the idea that we control our reactions. We can re how we proceed things.

Waiting space between those two points and we might not feel like a level of control over those reactions, but the more I am a big believer in therapy. I've been a therapy, my whole life. I come from a family married to a therapist. And to me that introspection is really important, part of being being a person and its also part of how I learned to set up my shop as I'm. King. As I'm moving my hands, I'm noticing the things that I like in the things that I dont like. Oh, I dont like walking across the sharp every time. Need to get an Alan ranch and I need a lot of them for this tool. So let me by another What about wrenches that just live at this tool? Hoo hoo, because every time I get up and walk on breaking my right and I like a certain flow state and we all have different places. We want that flow state, but I think some I'm like Jimmy Hineman, does not prioritize that type of flow state because he has a different one. While he's walking all the way,

the shop to the only box. It has hammers in it he's actually thinking about his bill. He's using that time me I'm just like I'm losing momentum, and we all have different ways in which we build momentum for the work that we do so ultimately lived under. The top philosophy that I talked about in the book is about watching yourself and noting your patterns and then, after that, starting to accommodate the space to to handle those patterns. You know a it'll also about watching each of our micro reactions to those stimuli right, an egg. It's never over. I've, never done during my. My shop isn't done at probably about twenty percent of what I do, and I have a simple organization like this time to tackle that shout fray. I mean we all have

drawer and our kitchen that we haven't seen the bottom of an attack on the first of these is that I think the actual Bala Twine place, but that they draw. I guess, there's that Greece at nineteen, eighty nine it allows you to get it out of your way sword. It's really sorting it you're, just sort of like dealing with it later and then that Fuckin Bala twine survives actin, move to divorce, one day. The Marie condo tells you to throw away exactly yes, so yeah it's an it's, always an ongoing process. I so in order to make Savage, builds, I took part in my shop actually and put a huge amount of it into the production, and I'm just now. We wrapped in April, where we as June yeah, I'm just now getting my shop kind of back together. It was physically back together a few days after we wrapped shooting but the flow of the shop and how its

it out is only just starting to come back on line for me because I didn't realize how much damage I was doing. My taking that apart. Oh wow, you of course, but also in doing that, it also probably gave you were a very balanced Laura level viewpoint of events will it take your party toaster it you're shop? Is War is like a machine or an organism may take it apart and you get to see where how its put together so that you understand and gather idea that definitely and I also I'm not doing it again I realise it like. I took a part, and I took away my ability to sell soothe for four months. Oh wow working full time, but on Sunday really would love to go to my shop and maybe make a box for my house, or so he couldn't put a box together for five months, because no, no, my tools were thick of that so funny. Your work, life balance is like

it's so confusing because they all looked like eating. Look exactly like you, and this is the thing I've really come to real. So even the slightest supper tat disturbingly protested is, is also storytelling, but a radically different kind of storytelling than I do on television with different types of narratives different use cases, and I am now realising nurses whole third area, which is me just building crap from myself, while no one's watching her filming and taking apart my shop and taking out my ability to do that, one thing has has again Like taken apart, a toaster made me realize the machine that is me needs a certain amount of time and breathing of just making scrap for myself and not filming. But what's your way whale though like? What's your I've been trying to tackle this God, damn thing for

Some are for a long time. It was decorous, gun yes network for many years, and you finally did it is there another one I want to. I want to wear a real space suit in space. We gotta. Do you think you would you go? I will go I'm staying in shape, I'm telling every human I meet at its base. Eggs a blue origin and at NASA I wanna be a civilian ambassador to space. I told his chief Bethel Slick three weeks. You know I'm hoping I do get to experience that. In the meantime, I have built up a collection of almost a dozen hyper, accurate replica of spacesuits throughout America's space development. I've loans for of my speech since the San Francisco Museum of Modern art for an exhibition. You're doing. I know its super exciting and I'm can

annually replacing parts of some of my favorite spacesuits with more and more accurate parts boy. You know you like you should be a guy that can make one thing that could go in as many different types of museums as pie. Of all the space it could go in an museum it could go in and ART museum enemies. If you should see like many almost minesweeper like how many different museums could you rat I'll, can arrive at once with one using yeah. I think we'll soil realizes. I've been archiving my costume collection I have over eighty costumes, I've built you know going to comic con. Another place is like that, and I realized it a key part of the costumes. I have pictures of every part of every costume where I got it, who I bought it from and what I paid for it, whether I think it's a hundred percent accurate or whether I think I should replace it at some point, but I'm I've. Also. Once I got the request from s half Mamma, I realize oh well that that part has to go as part of the story of that costume. So now, each key,

the file is gonna have to include what kind. I worry that what that was like what those pictures and then that narrative and then what what exhibit it was part of did. I haven't behind me to a talk. I wouldn't spoke it business Mars conference last year and it gave one of the keynote toxin. I had five of my spaces. I mean it, was so awesome to go to this conference where everyone was so much smarter than me and yet have my mind what I called my emotional support, constant, but my money because it made me feel at home. No matter where I was long as one of my space suits was nearby because at least you know there's that they're going I'm smarter back. I didn't build those things. We think I want one those. How can I have one of those okay, so cool? We could yet that's your currency apples,

but in order that it had that, does your core points currently exists? A savage build, this binding items government. I know it emitted at ten o clock, I think, and then having every runs and science channel. It does on wednesdays. Also at ten p m after about about you know what I want to do before. We read this out is not just what a pull up a couple of filthy pompey graffiti. The officers or to give you a sense right you that this is one of the hardest met, medical puzzles and a world is how to efficiently unwrapped the goddamn caramel, oh yeah, protein folding must meet easier and worry. It's like a reverse, a bail,

throw it in an on going like across the sandwich to lose a lot in the process, and I need to make a spate of slicer that ok, so here we go. This is this. Is I found this on a website? Pompey ANA dot org, which says each inscription begins with a reference to. Was found region, insular door number, the second numbers, the reference to publication, This is translated graffiti found in palm pay. This at a bar brothel weep. You girls, my pain, has given you up and I would penetrates and behind goodbye wondrous, femininity, so poetic reply, look better in the original and the original languages. So now just imagine there's a person who is like I've now, companies

pollution- and I mean you say this: I gotta let the world know what I was their facebook. Basically that was theirs. Those others that is updates graffiti is products status. Then go have an m for of ale with a mate and said: do I just posted? Nobody likes nobody likes that I get away legs Alright, let's see this was outside of a tavern. Restitutor says: Restitutor take off your tunic please and show us your Harry privates, says a growing upon pay this, I wouldn't want to good. In defence, I wouldn't want to shave with anything they probably had at that point, probably not as the boat we night trying to trick me or not, but they problem had like waiting x. You know like that, like just basically just like ripple your hair off with Mud, behavior, I hadn't consider a fine. No we're going to release the special version of beetle we,

getting from admirable, chew off all the air. On your way I mean- I don't know- maybe they made they didn't have Brazilians where they called it. You get a napoleonic, luxuriously rip off all the hair from stem the stern ok. This outside the house of catharsis, both drawing up a man with a large nose, and it says, applicants as I know that, MRS Blundering, you Salvian, wrote this so he's Calling out Icarus, it sounds like is vital to close and sun and then ass, to whose everybody likes you point, as was at midnight. I got your point that many and then, of course, he tax it with his name's obvious wrote this just in case anyone right, ok, right he's: according someone else's codine, paraphrasing himself he's yeah he's quoting himself says lovers: This is just like a Bush Multi Palm hello.

Well. You know what I read: it also see how this money this is outside. A bar the story of Ss Severin Iris is played out on the walls of a bar. Virus says success a weaver, loves the innkeeper slave girl named Iris. She how, does, not love him still. He begged her to have pity on him. His rival wrote this. Oh she's getting real. So then excesses, answers in the thread no successes says envious. One why do you get in the way submit to a handsome man and one who is being treated very wrongly and good? Looking and then said This comes back. I have spoken. I have, Now there is to say you love virus, but she does not love you and that it ends who knows Did one of them unsubscribe the most did. I can each other. How the most fascinating part of that to me is that a man explaining that

good looking is clearly lying. Even from two thousand years away. A bit like the same rules apply up. But if you look at enough graffiti, you could find an example of God ones, law, yeah. Absolutely of course, of course, will would be. Was it worth it in our voice, the narrow of guys worse, the narrow, overhear tourist aero burden, Nero and then Will you just end on right outside the bar of bought the bar of activities, activities just to the the door. It said I screwed the barmaid about evolved, at all really one year, no none, that's actually it's both refreshing and appalling at the same time. So what so? I think that take away here is actually that if you resent back in time, I don't think so

you more than a couple of days to build up a strong ten minutes of material o. Absolutely you could actually perform their young had gets a relapse absolutely and also because we have a much because we were just more programme for social media. We would fuckin, kill it in the ravine again. Oh, my god, my God, my graffiti hot, takes the news Herculaneum holy shit, I'd be a fuckin legend. Do you gonna go to the corner of elm and pearls The only problem is you only have you only have, as many followers are as in that town? This tragic problem Well, that's what you gotta get to Rome, Nicosia zigzags. I need to be like italian banks. He and he just fucking, go and drop by drop. My hot takes on all the buildings are like space invader. You know that would be the most. I love the idea of a time travel movie that is totally trivial, completely trivial. Chris Chris goes back in time.

So we started noticing weird crap on pump and the pump ABC and no one we we're trapped bags, redrawing, Dixon everything scrub. What's, ok, just a dick and clay I I was at a conference recently where I had dinner with for mayors. Ok different small cities on EAST Coast, and these are cities small enough we're being mayor is in fact not a full time. Job got it. I love this idea where they have their at their own companies. Anyway, I was seeing what mayors get together and then like belly ache about like. Ah you know what what's the universal thing about known? They talk about. People complain about potholes, and then I remember that I came across the story. None of them had heard this about a guy who figure out how to fix potholes in his home town, which was he spray painted cocking balls on every potholes and they were fixed within days. That's Genius bats

read a ball. That's using did drawing a dick on thing for who would have thought it could be used for good right. It turns out, it can have significant effects for I feel very enrich. I feel a lot better. I feel more important. I think we ve done some good work here too, because when I was on Snapchat, all I did was draw digs and our camp early, all I did was just draw Dixon on our cats. I put you. There was at some point the myth. Lustres often I would warm up for a camera take by Helen jokes to my crew and telling them horrible stories, and at one point I found a picture of his sleep with me baby, with a big dick drawn up up up up up up up up. Metals lets. You showed it to my camera man. No, I shall do my ongoing Mattie and manages when Hey rules are rules. I mean

it's like technically, not illegal, but it's I mean I was in no one. No one is I do not love when people dry brows on a baby like those are the best totally, but that's the last as good as Mr Chin. Again, when you turn your back right there's the cup they are people like? How do I react? because they were benevolence. Humor It is that ok, I imagine any provision do need provision, winners, Josephine, like it is: ok, yes, exactly Well, I'm so glad you're here only God. This is so much fun and it's been two. I miss your face. I monsieur hugs and- and I really am excited about your new show and I M so glad principally socially, I said hello, I went and I hope that you soon and I hope you know I hope you still do performing whenever you can squeeze it in. I you know it's. Little. While I mean I've been doing this bookstore buddy. I have been feeling the desire to hit the road again because I really enjoy that that

interaction of the audience is like nothing else you, your life shows, I would imagine, were like when you guys were touring with passengers and stuff yeah, so you'll be able to do that again. I I think twenty twenty is when you start to work on that again, oh good, good, good, good good! anything else you want to plug or anything else you want to say. My goodness, you know the savage built has six more upsets the air. The last one is a duty. We we put laser tag in some Peter Jackson's World WAR planes and enjoyed some dogfights holy shit like actual flying the planes I wasn't doing the flying. I was the Gunnar in a British, are eight, but speaking time assurance we built a time she likes. Variance with dogfight could be like a hundred years ago. Yeah is that it was a pretty amazing experience and now I'm taking the summer to relax, submit to recharge recharge.

We are actually in a tiger. Nice trip Europe in the fall and then hopefully, in the later, follow be starting up and season. Two halves, average built and gesture go draw some dick something's ice. Restaurants only ever got only for good. This is, as you wrong. A dick on power is part of you. Mad you're welcome Palm pay except you're. Welcome his could write the end. There was eighty twenty package. Or one thousand eight, its word salad rap on. I got so much talk about after Adam Savage just the idea of making staff in pursuing stuff that you're you're interested in listen, you probably, and maybe not. There is a good chance. You spend a lot of time worrying about things goofy. What happened to you there s a lot of stress that you're worried about, usually, thankfully, doesn't manifest itself. Sometimes things do, but you know what do you want to stress about it twice:

yo, you stress about it before it happens that if it happens just raise about it again, I know it's easier said than done, but you know what, if you took some of those moments where you were stressed or otherwise needed distraction and learn the skill, something that you were excited about. I know I've talked about this before, but I've done took up a Taliban and started taking piano lessons in January and started taking guitar. Lessons has ever doing a lot of Qatar stuff in my act, Do you know the study, music theory and learning learning actual skills with my hands because listen, I love video games, but I log over two hours on the other, and I know I'm gonna- play some when links awake comes up. I'm trying to cram in some skills. That's, but What's so great about learning is that I think

of anxiety can come from the back when your brain that doesn't necessarily of some kind of grab onto and focus on. So you just sort of turn inward and start devouring yourself, sort of like if you hadn't, even in your stomach, just starts consume itself for protein and and and leaping protein off of vital importance. I sort of feeling learnt learning a new skill might be fun way because you don't listen you're near your idea, doesn't have to be so result or hinted where your items, people think about undertaking piano or where any more arduous sculpting. Whenever it is new gone and us can be so much work, you noticed many people who are better don't worry about the result. You know you don't have to do it. I guess we're taking piano and guitar an Italian without a goal. The goal was just the process of learning itself.

And when you are learning you're distracted and not only you distracted, but your dear distracted with growth, which is the best kind of distraction you know it's like video games are great. You know. If you engage in substances to distract yourself, that's the you're, obviously prerogatives. Well, I don't recommend it, but that's my that's my thing, not yours, necessarily or just like mindlessly, watching television or mindlessly doing anything. So what if you filled the distraction times with with with growth experiences, instead of just distraction, experiences Senor, actually learning something you're doing something constructive with your time and it has the additive effect of making you feel better about yourself because you are essentially investing in yourself when you're learning anything you're subconsciously, saying I am worth the same worth learning

thing, and then you get all the little brain chemical rewards of actually having accomplished something and it takes your life and a whole different direction. So, even if it's like I'm feeling anxious now feeling stressed, I just need to distract me for fifteen minutes. I'm gonna go fuck around on the piano. I learned something or just do guitar scales, I'm using those examples, because the things I'm doing you whatever it is that you want to do if its crafting needlepoint toe- harry I dont know whatever it is even just spending a little bit of time on it, because sometimes I think we talk ourselves out of because we think it has to be its big production, but it doesn't. You can just do it for ten or fifteen minutes time. Guess what, over the course of one one? Three months, six months a year, its cumulative, you will look back and go holy fuck. I actually, a hundred hours by just stealing little bits of time here and there you know. Sometimes we make things more thing in that it actually so be it like how we ve always told people all I if they want to start stand up, arriving or whatever there's no big production, no one

there's a gun at a starting line, and then you start you just start you just do it so just steel, those little bits of time. Something just go sit down at the piano for literally ten or fifteen minutes, and it it's enough to be able to check the box for that period of time. You know by train or Tom always says like Jack in the box. When you go into the jam, if you're doing fitness, you know it doesn't have to always be a big production. Sometimes it's just stretching doing so pushups doing a little bit of cardio and then for that day, you're able to check the box. You have fifteen minutes, you have twenty minutes to job, even ten minutes. Whatever you still showed, now that you are worthy of that investment in time, and if that's all, you have that's what you have for them do. You still made the effort, but isn't it better than like known, feel like it, then you gonna be yourself. Are you didn't do anything and then it's easy to stay there pad or no I never do anything. You know it sort of forcing yourself to come out of those bad name.

Self tar patterns and when you're learning a new skill, it's you know, and although it can be frustrated him at least you're trying to you know, and as long as you don't put so much pressure on yourself, you don't you don't have to be perfect. There is no perfection, so you don't you don't have to be the best sculptor piano player singer in the world. You you can just be doing it for the fun of learning and for the process of times are going to second, sometimes you're, really gonna connect. That's what's up. Fascinating about learning, Canada an italian or the same times some days discussion with Italian. Yet I just have the words I'd there there. I know it it's just kind of ingrained. You know it just as a part of me.

And some days it's not a trip over words. I forget stuff in this, just how it is, but you, but you need to go to those times, because that's where you build the muscle, you need to have bad work out in the gym, where you don't feel is good and it feels like a slob, because that's where you build muscle, that's where you build strength, not just physical, but your emotional strength of pushing through things same piano, guitar someday. My hands are working great and it just seems so effortless another days. It is effort to fall, but I pushed through can I go eat as part of a process of care and I'm not. That will have to be the best I'm just I just want to be so that's my being of spring boarding off the out of savage by maker concepts. Use your distraction time wisely. You know if you're gonna, distract yourself, if you, if you're, not in a position where we want to deal with your feelings or try to really focus on that, at least for going to distract yourself, distract us office of it.

Attractive that you can get emotional and actual real world tangible results out of afterwards. That will then no reward you for me, able to sailing hey. Maybe I'm not a piece Maybe I'm actually worth something because you are- and I believe in you and I thank you for listening, and I appreciate you and we'll see you soon in your ears Andy, scaring complete, enjoy your worried