What was because I was like the one I will be performing it. Separatist go December. Eleven twelve and thirteen at Cobb's go to calves website, link its cups, comedy club that come me. Or just Google Chrysophora Cobb's come up approach. Should heads information, handicap words on record the intro Katy apologize, robot host apologize very sorry. This episode is Adam Savage, who is promoting a two year old friend of mine, and I mean he's. There we were friends for a long time. He is a friend and not at random, like all it's a friend who's that soured it's an old friendship, no friends for a long time and is voting myth busters behind the myth, tour which starts today, dates and tickets. Are

myth, busters, tour, dot com. Adamant, Jamie are on the road doing too much stuff, and he talked about in this part CAS always a delightful guess. Nurse podcast number six o one atom savage mom, mom anomaly phenomenon of up to now during nearest star com. How would you do in LOS Angeles? You know pigeon shit. Well, nice, what's going off deserted We must, I think, just those two things tat. I did drilling adventure,

on Saturday. Oh, you did good. I love the bandits. The bans are great Michel's. Amazing, who else was on Bradley Whitford, Judge Molina. It was fun, it was fun crowd, good, yeah, kind of a west wing grandma? I know I know it. I just wins. I just started watching us pertinent again how nice of you have time to watch shows you already seen every new debts on Hulu I could do it wherever out wherever you are. I posted a couple things on Instagram that you are responsible for number one time bandits map which I've? Oh? Yes, I saw that I totally, I think I retweeted ass, though its it has been framed. I don't have it in my house yet, but I'm getting it back soon, which will allow me. Go back in time and rob famous sardonically strength. In home, Napoleon and then also that picture that I took it with office with the act bar man

call it the vagina magnet ask. How do I code Blade runner gun knows regretted. It lacked noisy cricket whose great I ve been holding on those for awhile like I finally got up her eyes, but do you made the decker gun right? I do when you are holding yes, that's when I bought from scratch. Man was that is that the final one? It's not quite done? Is it ever an example. Is never is always like something perfect that I need to do this and I bought some more parts to it to redo a couple things I over machine man, but now you actually have The machine shop is in fully bloom, although my leases up soon, but it's in its the add the shop is really really nice. They appointed. I remember when this shop was born with this because of GMO or was it around overzealous? Coincidentally, it happened, sort of concurrently you mean like

because when I make year more comecon whatever now five years ago, he said come to my man gave rise like I was just putting the shop together at that point and I hadn't thought of calling at anything by Julia. My wife was You should get a shop near the house because it's the mission district consumers is Francisco. We can find an industrial base and you should have half of it before Lay in having meetings and hanging out and the other half of the shop and just work how beautifully and then you started are these insane pieces of machinery the industrial I've had to have such somewhere, so large a had have removed. Oh really, I think the last time you were there was a giant milling machine. Yes, I actually gave to a school or you two big. I never got around a touching it in the basic seven thousand pounds how'd you get in and out of their you actually have to hire guys with flat bed and you act. You have to move the pool table and then you have to put it

a level at which costs a few hundred dollar yeah every time you tat every time, so it it's not free to get stuff in and out of there now, and they are now going knows. I was happening, a reduced, rolling, excellent Korea, but I really mean jaw. I've really enjoyed the show that you would do like just them the major like to make it use making stuff and is we're trying every different aspect that we can mean like tested dot com. As such, Cuba later, that its goals friendliness. Let's try building that. Let's see how that goes and there's no. You know this, you have no, dear. What's gonna hit and get tons and tons of comments. Reddened response, like I know the guy's a prop store of London, and they gave me a deal on the set of samurai armor from forty seven Ronan cause the movie tanked rife, and we just I let's do an unboxing massive amounts of its people went nuts for it,

So why are we not going to start doing a mailbags by China? People like us, axing, even if it was firmly they didn't see. I didn't realize that it was huge with children. Do you know what this no children love going online and watching their favorite toys be unbox with to music and these their videos? Hundreds of them that have millions and millions and millions of heads and its kids transfixed watching Fisher price toys get on board. I've been doing wrong. Notwithstanding, I dont know anything nervous website. You just be all people opening toys, but tell me if you end up with this, I end up going into my shop on the weekends. If I have time like we finished shooting with budget for the year by three weeks ago, and I got to spend some time in my shop, but I feel guilty if I'm not filming it or taking photos of what I'm building right, I like this is content. I'm wasting content. Someone like I gotta just do some shit for myself and move forward with

oh yeah yeah yeah. I mean I find that too that if, if something I'm on the pod Cason like let's grab coffee Michael's, do it after the progress, because we're probably through everything that we would have dog demand on the Volga, like all the catching up stuff. Yet the meal before us never good idea than after really just stare at each other. Yet we are in a document what to say tested Norman will have been so much fun to work with untested, like they're, so game, to try anything into to give structure to anything. It's like we ve just been haven't so much fun yeah and what in? you, have it all planned in advance or do you just go out to work and it just be elected, This was just do as the little bit above this a little bit about. You know. We train record the pod cast every week stolen titled project, which means you know about to go on tour for five weeks

the myth, busters tour behind the missed her coming to LOS Angeles you're, going to get an email? For me, I got some cops free of the white while we're never gonna, look we're, never gonna, sell other Nokia debts, Sixty five hundred sea has a lot to say you know they can block off section, so it doesn't look totally manpower calendar but yeah December some teeth were coming through allay that's the penultimate performance, so the show should be fine by then Goodwin twenty six cities in twenty nine days? Oh my god yeah! So you in jail. Sharing a room. Now we have a total rockstar, we we have, we have buses and the bus sleep six crew members on each bus in bunks and in the back of each busters sweet one for me and one for Jamie and then one for brace storage. Exactly that's the front of Jamie's brush. But which also has a mustache on the front of the birthday. You know it's David's, that last time we went Jamie's bus was jet black, but my

Us seriously had a tramp stamp on it. Really it had a decisive filigree. I don't buy that IRAN is a classic stem and it was on the rear end his Basra to fuck your, but I dont know what happens when a better declaring their buzzes do with the buses. Do it is very, though the turing you ve done so much more of this, and I have but I found it, you can totally get calcified just moving, the city of never wanting to leave your hotel room. Oh yeah, it's hard! You because you are consumers, energy at energy at the shows at night and all the things you think during the day, don't happen because you you just get tired you get tired yeah and you get wired to also performing forbid like I find we are showing. And he s I'm never see before to know some cassowary. You can't you can't come home and then just immediately relax meant not surprising that so many performers a drink or do drugs because, like they just

People just need to shave the edge off that and I think that a good way to do it, but that by understand, I understand why that process is happens, but it is. It is weird It's it's is Julia on becoming a majority at all. She she she does. We ve been finding the right level, so they ve We went to Australia, New Zealand. The summer did chosen Sidney, Perth, Adelaide, Melbourne, Brisbane and Auckland, while I and she came on that entire trip- and that was us because Australia's so big, it's like performing one day in New York in the next day or and fortys later in Saint Petersburg. Read so you get if you fly and then is a three days while you wait for the bus to show up rights with lots of time to sight, seeing everything and brought the boys out for two weeks of those rate on this trip. I'm going out alone for the first week, she's gonna meet me on Thanksgiving up in Montreal with the kids, a nice unwarranted tool around.

EAST Coast for a while, and then I think, I'm going here again until I come back through. I like to think of a couple days where she pretends that she's a groupie avenue, I wanna see them No, that's the whole thing is I go. Send me a girl, hi, baby you're. The perfect one must be the first time we toward I'd, never left the bus. I never left the hotel rooms and I was just felt really dark and this last time we toured the lesson we did their heavy duty tour, which was last November December. I forced myself to get out every day and take a photo of something and blood. It and it was hard work. It was like I so didn't want to do it sometimes, and I would get three or four days behind, but it like. I remember the trip really fondly and now that's my thinking is get out every day and do so

tat really hard to get motivated to do that, and then also it's easy to get forgiving with yourself really quite showed up. But for me it sort of that day parts when I'm on tour are just like a kind of micro vacations sense go well, I'm here to work at night, and so I'm just gonna arrest today, because that's gonna be and then in its actually that's where I kind of crime in some resting. We, I am yeah it's true. It's it's it's interesting to find the balance they legs had that conciliation can get so dark yeah and I don't it's not like. I just sit and watch movies all day. It's usually just just on the computer, yeah, you're. Writing in your stirring and then all of a sudden

We haven't gonna just, but you haven't even turn the lights on at all and other suddenly just got a job like six p m and is linked to the glow of the screen. I guess I'd better showers due to show it can get eating it weird, but I've never done a bust. I've always wanted to do them toured the bus tour But but I haven't done that I haven't done yet cause it just schedule, isn't it you have to pay back and forth all the tonight right right so that its really? Finally do it that way, it's nice to it, gives me personally, but does not mean. I know that we worked so hard to hone your material, no crowd to crowd and night tonight and in refining it and For me, this show is very similar from night tonight, but I also for having written at one piece die. You know I find myself one everything to be good so I'll phone in on the piece. That's you know. The transition between this part in that part isn't perfect and that doing the show six nights a week is

awesome in terms of being able to see the reaction, like I've really learned that you can make an audience laugh one night, but it takes a it takes root, crafting a joke that heads every night, yeah yeah and it is just play- I mean there's just trial and error is just playing with it. It's just that's your machine shop. You know you're, just its decorous god you're just over and over and over and its it may never be fully perfect, but at a certain point one job to kick my ass. I just know: there's a laugh in there and I can't find it. I know there's a better life than the one I'm getting and I can't find it. I tried and different wording every night, probably seventy times and I have not yet found what I think is its it has to do with diving going diving with sharks and we had to wear this stainless steel sharia work with some working on this. So the story is we're going down to the Bahamas and we're going to be diving with sharks and the shark safety guys.

Telling us. When you come down, you know things could get dicey. A super predator, like a tiger short, comes through, and so you'll need to follow our directions exactly. I said, ok, but we're ring chart, am I right in this job. I mean we're wearing these dislike stainless steel chain mail, a very fine mesh chain, velvet sharks can't buy true, and that was an insurance company. So we said well we're wing sharks rightness together. That's up isn't word like and then they explain and this is how I say to the audience. Then they explain that when a sharp bites onto you heaps hills, the hills attempt his heel attempt to separate your arm from your body, but with two methods. One is his teeth and the shark armor will prevent those teeth from biting into, but the others thrash back in right and the fact is the weather and ensuring the shark him, or he will succeed in separating your arm from your body. The only thing the armor does allow you to take the arm back home with you and then at the end, twenty the tiger shark

it's great you of your eye and that when you ever come to the end of story, you don't know how you gonna end. It now just go and then I jerked off it doesn't matter But the story- and I don't know that's gonna work with my crowd- sheltered undergo this. Gave me my our back and the Niger Delta the I called it the stranger yeah, because it was like someone else's army. That point was short: did you a favor just kind of play with it from there and see how it goes? Happy, endings, you're, driving me posters everyday You could do that the late she'll get away. Let us have now got plenty of material from clusters after dark will, you did was. Was it the first time you to set up on the packet

does. That was gap was at that one year that was was like spring of two thousand ten crime. Any yeah agreement to try stand up here so sweet for letting me try here, but you did great, but then you said that I saw your view is very like I think I understand the difference between performing for your audience and then performing because they provide data set in Vegas. I gotta was a knight. I was a nightmare and more than that, my friend, whose Sherwin or for a big network show was there, and I mean it was just I wanted to really well and then afterwards, he took me out to dinner news. I look you need to understand that you went dirty really fast and debt crowd, that's not your crime that's just a crowded on they don't know you're doing that, I don't understand yeah and so then what it was funny I saw Craig Ferguson perform it, the symphony, HANS Francisco, and he opens

show cursing like a sailor and talking about how we gonna curse like a seller, was right he's getting the audience used to that. This is a different crack road layering in the he yeah yeah. Usually the audience will follow you anywhere. You just have to do. Sometimes just have to give that you have to like clear the path a little bit so you can do you know if, but in this instance is probably not appropriate, like these designs is specially enough. If you doing small, intimate more alternative shows the architecture we get away with it, but of your if these are like theatres with thousands of people that are they gonna be enlarged families, as there are a lot of families and abroad it ends up being and that the place I get to really

My wings is when we have a super crazy, enthusiastic crowd with crowds like that. You can try everything and I can sort of like let materials for expand and try different bits in there and that's where I get a lot of stuff and they'll go back to the room and I'll take some notes. They record this off the boy four nights. Hotels go a little section here and there it's amazing, and then you know you might even emission when you're done. You should listen. The first one and then the last one and then just never considered that see how it evolves, because you are sometimes you'll notice bits. Peace is here and there might, but sometimes you don't really have a bird's eye view of how much it evolves. So if you listen one of the other. Like. Oh my god, that's sometimes we totally can be made about wait where the first might almost be unreasonable to really going. What was I saying because you just figuring it out yet Jamie doing on the road Jamie's doing great. You know it's funny. He is he's

so inexorably himself. It's not like he loves being on stage not at all, but he loves the tour because it's ours yeah, it's just this. Just us does no one messing with us. We may all calls its our baby and that's really satisfying and frankly onstage about once a night healed knocked some joke out of the park. You have. It just comes to him and it's really lovely to watch him get like comfortable first couple nights. He might be a little bit rough, but frankly, once we're once her rollin he's he's into it, but that is just the you, probably not a guy, that ever thought to himself when he was younger someday, I'm gonna perform in theatres for thousands available to people we built em. We built a knife throwing gag into the show now, and so he gets it actually throw knives at at target. Onstage, that's fine! Naturally I started

put in Wiesbaden, put in stuff our skill levels, cyber juggling bit now cousin. I mean I juggle a little, and that has a history, and I tell story about about the origin of my juggling and which will you want to say that? Or do you want to save it? I'm gonna say up to say for unity. They come to show me. How do I know I know and goes out, but they should cut. You should come on, let's Angeles be different from the normal, less Angeles I just got back from. I just got here from one hundred. Wait, three, where I did the my turn thing, they allowed me to to dj twelve songs for an hour oh wow, you're, gonna arid tat later in December, So was it all the biscuits on our journey Mitchell I'm a sensitive lady, Jody Mitchell Phenomenal, and it's really interesting to hear her.

Boys evolve over the years with the smoking. I now now it's really allowance really down there and it and it started in her voice, was always so angelic, but even even has progressed. It was still good, legged, still good, and in listening born in cool you know I was. I was getting my kids into it. I wanted to show them, and one of them to understand how blue is like one of the greatest problems ever recorded, and I didn't realize that supplement guitar when she sings California she's playing a dull summer like a lap dull summer and she's literally like do and she's virtuoso work. She's doing. It's really amazing. There's Youtube videos. Oliver of its awesome, yet with twenty one year old, Johnny Mitchell sweetly playing this dull summer, the for some ever the original version of Woodstock is just because I know that I know the sort of thing grunge function:

Let's grab me yeah and then and then her version is way different. It's like it really harbours and really highlights the lyrics more like it right, it's more with what the eggs are that's what I was tired ass. We are gold and it is one of those cases where I think that the cover is better than the song. I'd like I like I'm a big fan of that, but it is. It is interesting to hear you know and then just in their relationship and how it away. I don't know that they had a relationship yeah. Wasn't she with grim NASH, Joanie Mitchell Committee thought they were. I thought our house. About them, oh wow, I did not know that. Let's find out. We're going to the internet's Katy Levine. I love Kazakhstan NASH version of Woodstock it. So I love that

yeah and they had to add cats to make you seem a little crazy or just to get us all to catch Johnny, but only to get Mitchell. I love Loro Canyon. That's where I would want When I came down here two years they were together current. So I don't. I don't know if I got the timing right, but I always knew that there are other. There is, and I know this is because My ex JANET Barney is, if you ve, never torture only Mitchell, you guys will by US She was a day. She was at the thing on Saturday night how nice throwing yet it's great she's JANET, plays and things and Her voice is very, I didn't know very early Joanie Mitchell, how she's amazing voice and wish you would sing more. But I guess if our really wishing for things, I guess world peace,

no more disease and then at some point I do- and I wish I would say more- ok, so I'm reading crazy great book work. It's called popular crime and its by bill. James rights, who is the matter of Sabre metrics rights, like he's the guy that came up with a whole new way of looking at baseball statistics Billy beam make the Asia World Series team died a movie money balls Bay right. So I didn't, I knew about bill. James said read the profiles on him in magazines and stuff, but he also has this minor interest in popular crime stories going back hundreds of years and how they affect, and societies look at crime and society in general and what's the result? Well, he seems to be making a case that we look at prosecuting

and totally the wrong way that we put all this weight on things like, and he was mean to his mother. You know, and they put all these sort of anecdotal stuff into trials, and he makes the case that there are more balanced ways of looking at evidence in order to come to a point system for convicting someone of Is money? Borrowing crime? Yes, he's trying to money, long time kind of a great idea, but it's not like that's the thesis of the book because he's also just really interested in crime stories like the Lynn baby case and the black Dalia murders that we just got to the onion fields and among any talks about moves and books about them. He talks about the actual case. He reads every book about every case, so you know if it's something like that,

de Limburg. Baby does like forty books and he read them all and will tell you these. Thirty seven are shit, but these are only good and then who criticise and complement the authors varies very stuff. I mean we just got to this in the book. He just got that went through this really interesting thing about Stroud the bird men of Alcatraz, who I didn't realize not only raised birds but wrote books about the care of pet birds that he established industry of care for pepper, oh wow, out of prison cell. Since these I would argue for Turkey magazine and, like all the eggs blue bird fancier, yet was. If you go back, he wrote the first texts on it now he was also a really good writer, but a complete psychopath who openly fantasized about killing children the entire time he was jail? Oh wow, I don't think I knew that. I know. I know that there are some areas that I just picture was like kindly

a man in a flood justice system. Exactly- and this is what James says is that the Bert Lancaster depiction of him as a kindly old man, a victim of the justice system, is one of the things that cause Miranda rulings to come into play and caused all of this rehabilitation effort that actually went almost too far in the sixties. Now, of course, starting in nineteen eighty river, we ve boomerang all the way in the other direction where it's like just put in solitary all day long and ignore them right, and he talks about how crime stories have led to our sidle assumptions about what criminals are and what their worth and he's just analyzing. It's really just riveting. That's it reminds me of what is its eastern Fate Penitentiary Mimi in Philadelphia, it's the that is to say that he should say penitentiary its, whether you can tour of it. You know it goes.

Back to the it's not inhabited now, just it its business the tourist destination now. But it's really interesting because you see the evolution of prison theory from the very earth from the oldest part of the present as they continue to build out and the early part of the prison. It was almost like some like a monastery and they would put criminals in there to essentially reflects and fine or what or whatever and in these, and it was actually very- I mean they were. Finally isolated, but it was. It was really beautiful and it looked me now, just like it it looks like a monastery and then over the years and over the decades, just how how the cells and condition change the socialists What are you watch? You know the essentially the demise of this system and how it just kind of ends of turning into like a prison yard, freak for a whole raft of rain and then how they changed their minds about no prisoners needed like a prison yard, freak for a whole grant of rain and then how they

In their minds about no prisoners need to be socializing, it isn't it, and so it's it's. If you're ever there, it's a bit of bread, really fascinating to flourishes it's in Philadelphia. Ok, I'm actually have been blamed sport next week. Ok, witty their next few things either hit. Are that potential? and the Motor museum I've heard about the Motor museum I totally down heading over there. Do they is it specifically. One lectures of strange things are system, one that has the discharge, the large Duchamp collection, I think there are there. I only saw one giant collection of things, but maybe there are other collections of things. You know the man with the most impact and coal in the history of our Kate. That's the motor YAP pulses born pon storm was telling me. I had to go to the Motor Museum, yes Paul, who lives the invalid elsie?

will take you to the motor resume and then also to really good chinese food. Oh good yap, excellent and I will go. He knows how to do it. A bright I'm actually taking the train over there from New York has I'll be in New York the day before and there were like you want to fly and I'm, but there are first show of the tourism lame sport and limbs were to three hours from everywhere right. It's hilarious! When you really look at it and pensive anyone see we find to Cleveland, flattened pits, refined and its three hours, but there's a train that goes right from New York. Take the train off the train. Have you have you done extensive travel. The train. I have not done extensive train travelling. I have travelled the train before between Boston in New York and then also between. This ITALY and Paris blow Switzerland. My issues, which was a good one, or ideas were with someone I was I was. I was a child designers was two thousand and seven probably, but it but it. But we got in this one off

We train that reminded me of the old time train from young Frankenstein. Apples, arguing in English, and then there are the old time we train and in their arguing in like romanian or german or whatever their arguing and in the same exact argument. You remind me of that, like that we got an old, We train reminded me that we have my wife and I have done trips from New York to Montreal, simply go to Seattle and a few years ago we actually did New York to shock us, our San Francisco to Chicago stopping for a few days in aspen labour friend there's a magician, that's a new step in aspen. Is he the town magician? He is, I guess he would be the town magician he spent em. He spent well over a decade being the magic bar tender at John and verse bar in aspen? Why can you imagine the experience you get brewing magic, Fritz, Braun people for like fit twelve years? Oh, my god! It is

I've never seen anyone who can hold a crowd and flirt with the whole crowd of people like this guy's names. Eric me, these amazing aspens relieves think as a natural. Actually a middle class there. It's like rich people and then the people who work for them and nets that has hitherto demographics at all like births. Vineyard yeah it's by there is to be a great comedy first one aspen. Is it not and still do I haven't been there for years, really yeah, maybe like ten years, whereas the become any festival now well. They move the US, I'm coming irresponsible to Vegas for four years and no, I don't know now much if it still of still around there's one in Montreal, re ass, just for laughs, just career. That's where I saw my favorite every episode of the Green room. Ah that did it was the episode with you, as you too. Mention Jimmy Car Jimmy Car areas are due to free lender- oh my god, so good, though those guys we're fuck it out whizzing thousand

Annabelle you got, it was like watching ever is like watching big lears beat each other up with baseball bat, sat with so much fun. We know we did that show and I had to fly out the next morning. I came up here where I was. I was doing a show somewhere to flout the next more. We did the green room and ended up just hanging out with those got with those guys, and I don't think I went to bed at night because I wouldn't areas right never met him up for some. I met him, and so he went back to the main hotel in Montreal issues like Sheraton or somewhere where it all the comic staying in the lobby, is essentially like the laugh Olympic. Come on comic ash, so he answered was down there and interest ended up just hang out and targeted listening and then hang out of their comics until I was like Y gotta go and I would have stayed here my suitcase and got there was real. Those are really fun festival that here I can imagine I dinner attempt to see other night. Oh, you dig he's living here now you mention yeah

is, I think, he's doing I'm doing to share with him Friday night, our nice at large. With Sarah Zone. Ok, yeah, but it's nice, it's nice to see. You know- and you know we're all as we all just sort of a lot of times. Meat in passing nor by the specified, are so break as if the old, it's really the time where you get quality time of comics that you like and respect in that you never really get to see it. Despite the fact that a lot of us live in the same city right scientists had this really cool thing come up. The avian club is doing asked for an article from me about my dad, because their celebrating one of the universities assess me Streton Sporty. Fifth, forty five forty fit so my father did much of the early animations ancestry should really back in line nineteen. Seventy seventy one and raised us making money by doing two or three animations a year. How can you imagine wow?

and which ones did you do to your member and have a gay, and so I covered a bunch of them in the article he didn't want about Harry likes to construction work, name Harry Harry likes to work high in the sky, in fact, for his lunch Harry likes to climb to the highest spot in the building, and so the whole animations is following Harry's egos higher in her in her in her and he gets, although the top and some guy yells Harry. You forgot your law as just like my dad sense of humor, but in the article we know that, later on, when I was eleven or twelve, my dad hired me to do the voice for carrying Heath Cliff, which was part of a series of ten animations, that they heard him to do of a boy and a girl trying to figure out how something works: Heath Cliff and Sheila he and she and they have ridiculous ideas of how something works like a false it, and then this creature named it shows up and tells them how it really works.

But- and I haven't seen any of these in thirty years and some one in the comments section on the av club. I know I shouldn't have been their reading butts when in the common will have you haven't, you know better settlement, though you can't no matter how many machine You have somebody found one of those animations and and it's on Youtube. So I immediately tweeted the link to it and I got I played for my wife in the car on the way here here, my twelve year old voice. That's incredible into how ironic that I is about figuring out how something Julia was like you, so you were myth busting in twelve years ago, they use expressing that, in your adult life I know I haven't even occurred to me that that was the subject of those that so that so fantastic mean it's that's what

internet works the way it should work zone, and I would like my father paid me five bucks for each one of those. I did eat some one of the things I did the voice for and then, when we did, he she and yet I was doing ten in a row, and so I would like to get fifty dollars. This is nineteen. Seventy and I'm twelve years. Oh, yes, the steps you deny us. I live with that man and he's like slow down boy, and instead I got the book of lists to which turns out both me and Hodgman, both Hodgman end. I yes received the book of lists to as young pre teens and read it from covered a covered multiple times and probably knew all the list memorized all whom we had so much to govern review. Those were so popular. They did the book of lists and then me in the Guinness book.

In all events, I was fascinated by that stuff too, and the book of lists was the was Wallace's in the wall. Chintz keys, the writers of the of the people, the people's almanac, and it's just riveting, you Know- was fourteen people whose bank robberies went arrive at basically Buzz, That's right! That's what happened this protein Busby, I passed by us, door here and allay yesterday. That said, Buzzfeed out the outside is them where they are to have a couple. Buildings you go by lists? I dont? five things. You could write about speed, not a list, figure out there doing really well, they were they ve expanded quite a bit, you're in LOS Angeles, but are you so is I'm sorry about no. The answer to this is Miss but Miss but miss. But I know it's a to G is myth posters still going you're still on whistle. I wish that we just finished so you know that Cary Grant turn a longer on the show

That's ok, that's! Ok! We didn't want that to happen. There was sad, very soon. I adore all of them. So much also awesome. I guy Sartori, the means I see rank as well as were in our friend, were afraid, yeah and I'm down here and he's down here. Yeah carry I'd, never see, but I but she's always so sweet whenever awesome. So we firmly show without this year is genuine with strange it. It just feel like all that there is a strange it. It's weird and slight twice. The work right cause were telling the whole story in its not their neighbour, producing forty five, set of every episode in our doing a hundred percent and that required a whole sort of shift in how the show looks and how the show feels because

it's a structurally different show now, and I'm really happy with where we got two with it. We ve said ton more process is a lot more behind the scenes, screw ups and a lot more kind of the trial and error of what it takes to tell the story, and we replace lot of Argo prose with this M recalled a black magic, which is, you might know, it's just cinematic quality. Little tiny camera costs about a thousand bucks, and so we have, I think, four of them, and so the show has a much more oh and instead of the infinite focus of the Go Poland's you could put prime lenses on these and get a very cinematic look like shallow depth of field where This is in focus and that's not so the look of the show is really gorgeous and they're gonna start airing early next year. I don't know the exact dates yet, but I think January February, and am really How did you see how they do we just like us? Have we finished three weeks ago and I'm not sure when we're starting up again, it's again early in the year by Tom,

more now it something like two hundred and seventy hours we have made over the last twelve years. Visas is it I mean when you start gearing up for a new season, the council. Now you know it item the thing that I've learned to love the thing that I didn't Eliza was my job. Is the story telling the building an experimental design and all that is ancillary to the fact that you you're telling a story from beginning to end and rat narrative process of figuring out how that story goes where the chunks fit, and also realizing that there's portions of the story that the editors are going to see that you don't where's we're just sending them footage, they're going to get all this footage and they're going to see that. Do you want to give them all the option and think that process of thinking through how does this sequence fit to that? And how can I give the editors the ability to put this one before that if it works or we might do an experiment,

and we know that after that experiment, depending on the result we might do. One of four thing in brain editing is a pain in the hay and we want to give the others body to do any one of those. So then will talk to the camera say: okay, hey! Here's! What's going to happen, I'm going to record this piece when I'm going, to put it three different way depending on the results that we're gonna get good luck. I love that process. To me is so satisfying and so much fun and we have some fun guess stars. We gotta Jonathan banks, yes, who place MIKE on breaking bad. He came on the show we had them. We had no idea what to say: for them. Have you met him? Yo yeah he's he's a lovely man visa sweetie Y yeah. I just like you showed up an erroneous look at the earth. No, he was you know because easy always, always played a tough guy. A bad guy or guy. Remember him from Beverly Hills, bills, cop and

he on the last. We did our last episode of the breaking bad after show. He was like I'm sorry. I'm in any, of course, is very misty ferryman. It's ok we're even I was like it's me. It's not that I don't love. You in the chair I just you know how you just get behind a lot of things going on about it. There are things going on. You know I gotta get car about that catch up time on every they keep. It keeps saying: there's a big! I'm gonna take a catch up vacation where I just catch up on everything that I felt that that I bill Gates apparently takes two weeks a year to read all the books jerk. That he's got on at least two weeks bullets there was a New York article about his philanthropy and it inserts to increase your feeling that bill smarter than all of us

How many decided you wanted to give a ton of his money away. He reached out to this one guy's an expert at philanthropy and said: what is it? What can I do with my money to make it useful, because you can't just give money way. To be smart about where it goes well. Yeah, if Ireland out there whether there are sort of so not political rules as much about other can be, but also socially you can't just you can't just give a country. A hundred million dollars be like good luck. Like domain, you can infrastructure like someone has to know how to deal with the money allocated properly and you have to teach them how to then more money. You might take an organization that could solely money but giving them ten million dollars is just going to cripple them because they don't know what to do with it. If you want to be able to help them, spend it in which creates because

anyone is everyone? The lottery ends up really happy and there are other problems are exactly so so he went to this expert in the expert who has talked too many billionaires was like. Ok, here's a list of the twenty three books. You should read if you really want to give away billions of dollars, I'll see you later and the seven months later he runs into bill at this other converts, regulate Davos or something like that and will say. Ok, I've only had the average and he read sixteen of the twentieth, antibiotics. Here's where I've come to really I just made up like talking to you Amelia, but really I didn't need to be read, thereby seriously disorder meeting. That was a joke bill. Glad you got through it

once I once and breaking down. You really didn't see it. When I did you break and on more just look at the political structure between the struggle between the members in the world know bill. Please, oh that's breaking gone yet would you figure was? I was thinking of the rescue Don I was thinking of the Verna. Hearts are very much. My rough referencing twilight? That's the name of the vampire right. The other neighbours have ever go back idea. I once had dinner with an experimental psychologist whose specialty was lottery, winners which, in Britain they really get screwed, because you get the full some. Right away, tax free owing you and you and I were sweepstakes twenty million bucks thinking you twenty million bucks back while all that's, What did he say? Not a single one of them's lives wasn't ruined by winning the lottery, not not just not happy. Their lives were ruined by winning the lottery. So what are some of the

actors involved besides. If I can guess like it completely changed social dynamic of Europe, their behaviour, Emily and that's the primary wanna meet. He had one were a guy one, twenty million bucks and he gave like six of his family members a million bucks each and they all stop speaking them now. I know there's more to that story like there has to be layers and layers and layers, but yet social dynamic thing and being able to navigate. It is really difficult and also knowing how to remember. I was in a car acts when I was seventeen years old and I got settlement of like thirty thousand dollars which and I was broke at the time and so thirty thousand dollars you to me might as well have been billions of dollars

so how quickly what followed was. You know, I think I got the money in March and then I just didn't really worry areas like all this by stuff I, despite his very empowering the alibi whatever I want, just like a genie and it is never ending, and by November I was like we're. Not the money go like I had just blown through all of it, and that was supposed to get me through. You know I did not. I was not a responsible. Is no lesson but it was not a responsible is not responsible. A couple of months. There was it. There was an article recently about a british garbage worker who one ten million bucks or some multiple millions which he spent a year. Spending on cars and hookers wow in the year, the cars or repossessed, and he was back to being a garbage man whose, like now school, it's cool raising yeah I mean yeah and all of the genome in with me now with prostitutes

getting receipts and you can kill you right what why it's a hard good and soft good for seven minutes and then a hard good again, I will state that in writing. Nl. I gotta go wherever they murder Herzog and are now making boner jokes boner jokes where'd. You know how it is. I know you long time you know where this goes actually now that my boys are fifteen twin voice, making boner jokes as one of the fastest way to stop them from messing with me. Let us show our support for them to hear I would say that did at the time. You are Woodstock founders night last year, were backstage and I went out and did you know twenty minutes and I came back stage and they were like

too many Venus, John, don't ever do that. She was again and a few nights ago. I make them turn in all their porn delivery. Devices of all electronics go to my office at the end of every danger. So it's nine o clock, ten o clock at night. There live return them, and now their standing at the top of the stairs were sort of shooting the breeze. You know I'm standing at the door of my bedroom and they're not going to bed, and I know it's time to go to bed and their sort of being charming. The way the kids can be late at night now I know we don't I'm do we still talk about stuff and when we start talking about a movie and it still going and I'm looking now it's time to go to bed and I'm standing there with my hands on my hip sickness Julia, my wife. She slipped her hands under my arms and we start doing the routine were her arms or mine, so I like to helping hands in Prague. So I say: look there's three reasons you need to go to she's, doing it all great hold. I'm gonna pick my nose and she jams are pink. My notes doesn't help. Doesn't there like yeah, that's not gonna make us go,

I go wait a minute. I gotta scratch my nuts they broke speed of sound getting to their bedroom parental warfare. That's amazed that was the nuclear option thing one thing to do, but they are they still. They still thing. One thing they are sitting on until they both have girlfriends now, what's hopefully fascinating territory to navigate as apparent they dating other twins. Now it's not an episode of Happy Day, ok, great funds, It's it's fascinating yep! It's just! I don't know how much I want to go into it by no. You don't think it's totally amazing. As long as you may know, because long as you let the boys know there's it's just I don't know how much I want to go into it by no, you don't think it's totally

site into it was we think? How do we approach its arson and their daughter right? So this that somebody started and Chile said we gotta think like we have to think like her parents, not like his and ask that parliament, that's the exact right way to approach all of the problems, listen. We gotta think like we have to think like her parents, not like his and has like that's brilliant, that's the exact right way to approach all of the problem. Solving with this equation, yeah! Well, listen! If the family comes over dinner, you gotta do the net scratching gag again just to see how lies when everything black dinners over there not leaving things, go really guys before we have

We want to show you look. I'm gonna make a Garrick real magic trick where we pull the figs from deserted. My supper, Natalie Ass, kids. Oh my god, could you imagine the bee horror Guard Scott temporarily, my my friend Sir Bunting, who writes for tomato nation. That's her website. I am she she. She said that she walked in and her parents having sex when she was nineteen o, as she said, that was far worse than being six or seven yeah cause they when you, knowing it and nineteen your parents as far as your concern old and she was like mom was on top ropes. I'm not your eyes was until that story, but there it is that's a good story.

I thought there would be a tomato involves bomb. What are you doing? This is a reverse cowgirls the that's corner, where your like, just let him learn about it on the internet, and every doubt log I mean you know, it's not fair. It's that fair. I mean it's good, did it grosses out, because our parents, but it also not fair, that we don't allow until we're much older. The idea that our parents are just human being right, just a couple of people that had sex at some point and In my view, all the sudden were tugging at their sleeve and then you can know I'm with my grandparents. It with was inconceivable right that they ever can see that it is inconceivable.

So my mom their daughter, MID totally. You have no way to my grandfather picture MAX on seed out with no charm. My around my grandmother was like barber. Bush it was what you like, as they didn't have waxing back. That's how you weren't, making a I'm sorry. I thought you were my grandmother, waxing joke you will not brazilian how many, the Brazilian again you the grandmother about a guy guy, havin, fun selected. The commission has responded with? our showed the Nokia be a very family or with Mary occurs to me,

now do not single one. So how long is the show and what's the structure of the show each effectively? two hours, for the variety show up. I dont want us it's a difficult should describe because many the ways you would normally describe it would make certain swaths of people stay away, thinking others his family, entertainment and it is, but it's sort of way we. We ascribe the bugs bunny humor level of playing on multiple levels and you know The show on unmet busters a tv show we really genuinely dont know what the outcome of most of our experiments are gonna, be like we're just as mystified as the audience might be, or perhaps more so, but you can't take that to a stage and say: hey watch. While something might not happen right

So when we first met in writing it we knew that we wanted to build these set pieces to talk about certain concepts, but we put it under the aegis of thinking that, from a scientific standpoint, how you look at something your vantage point means everything and that if you have to vent its points, you're gonna have a better ability to sort of take something apart, and so we play around with the audiences perception of things, sometimes literally. Sometimes figuratively, but a means towards the end of act, one we bolt camera to someone's head and make them see the world in our work. And then make them run an obstacle course, any that's cool, really wheel at its first. It's like I just I wanted to try that. Yes, who I put a camera my head, and when I figured out the coolest thing to do we put that on the stage in

on Friday, Jamie and I are get together at em five to redo it cause we like every time we take it out. We went to modify and play with stuff. So this time we're doing some really rather stuff with the camera, so it's a full on like there's there's their stuff, because I just as you guys on stage talking on another no I've early on in the show. I bring up the smallest kid I can find in the audience, and I pick him against the largest dude I can find in the audience and with a little physics, the kid always wins and it's really really fun. We ve got to have some violence in their got a huge and we have a huge finale which involve some shooting great, and yet we we take the audience both on a tour of

our understanding of how we came to these jobs and science, and we also have a bit of Cuba in their cars. We love to in that yeah. There's nothing more fundamental, talking to an audience, that's interested in what you're doing and getting really interesting questions with its special part of a show and its part as part of the show, its very intimate for that particular group be out, and it relates to them in Europe. We are interacting with them and it's a good. That's good, good part of a show and eight Jamie Jimmy really definitely loves that part of the show he likes talk you like talking to talking to the crowd he actually likes going out into the crowd and it's very fun when you walk out in the cradle or law array, hello tablecloth.

I would love it of Jamie has broken the fuckin like a standard song. I wish I could get him to sing for one time so good I am telling you like, it would be like a fucking applause break showed. No one ever saw it coming, and then he just broke into sound and unlike spot, like you, freeze, spotlight on behind him and me just like goes out into the audience and serenades someone. I mean Whenever we have a birthday on the myth, posters crew course, we always surprised with the cake, and we also happy birthday and the joke. I tell every single time without fail. Is.

Happy birthday the Carrie and then I go sing a Jamie another thought that it was always a laugh because so ludicrous to imagine him singing. I even at one point I think I wrote a sketch for us where I had him speak singing like heartbreak hotel, because that's what the fonts dead member that yes, the fonts wasn't comfortable with singing so he spoke. Zog is part. An end. Jamie's sort of like the fund is a little bit like the funds and that it in any degree to which the funds didn't give a shit. Yet right a ah, I missed, I missed a photograph. The other night I was driving here, no lay passed this large martial arts studio and the second tee. In martial arts was missing or the light was out so said. Martial arts and I

trying to take a picture that this is where pirates learned of the car We did a epic captains wife's lamented COMECON this year. Oh you did it, you did you be now we didn't beat Chicago. No not a cargo, we did one in San Francisco was at the one that was like almost fifty minutes long. It was like an almost an hour that we didn't beat that, but we came within like four minutes of it and then the venue was that are like workers turn the switch off. I get your pirate shit out of me. How come the country this year. I didn't see one bit. I know you had your thing and I was unable to go. Comecon for me is well here was: actually it was insanely busy, but less insanely visiting the year before the year before

Granville's grandma to know please came that ivory it'll keep animals like a butterscotch. But it's a hit its comecon I took. I don't know me six less panels moderating this year than the previous year. So we know was it wasn't, as I had time to eat it I'm a kind man, it's it's a good eighteen hours, logwood it's an answer because it's you know panels all day. Interviews all day and then we did at midnight one night and then we did podcast the next night and it just you know I was able to go to Thursday because we should maintain a Wednesday. I am so in Sunday more panels and then and get back to work is open to work on Monday. So was just COMECON. Is its work, work work.

But it's fun work. No. I look forward to it. I'm I'd like I get to bed at two or three in the morning and up at seven thirty in the morning every day, but I just don't have a lotta hang out time Macao kind anymore, but you know I'm not complaining about it. I just remember that time. A few years ago in you and Felicia ran through the the cod on Sunday like practically empty yeah, the surf San, Diego, my guess is like the last day you guys reflex right, let's go through ran through real, fast yeah. I know it's for its fun now and then I remember, I think, the first time we looked at it COMECON, you and Julia were laughing about something and your heads came together. Oh no, you know what it was and I don't feel like repeating it

here, but you told us the Bob sang a joke right holders, the job that loses his audience every time he tells it and yet- and we ve I've, told the joke on the package before Would Bob was on. It was a joke that I begged Mattel on stage once and gross people out, but I saw, but it was so funny which is attached to your mom space. Put on my my bike, Mozilla's make my dad from fucking me in the ass. At the moment. He said that to Julia and I we laughed so hard. We both went down and higher her heads colliding trying to occupy the same space. Is there any better metric that that we were born for each yes end, and that was visible like actually, I can say that it was the mixture of urine pain inside of your year, oscillating back and forth, between those two states,

and then about three weeks after that we were staying at the Mandarin in New York and we, saw him get off. The elevator enjoys like, and I was like you can go say I know Chris and weakens probably say, and then the elevator close around two when it with closer like do you have that you remember exactly that, probably will be over, Well, no, but hopefully will do you no mean its imbibe occasion. We sort of always you tell go no and I warrant our you know late. I met a town like wages and then yeah economic, your people and my people were like. Can he come? Do

women's right back in its liking, for using a bar, I know, but but the intention is always there to hang words. Is it that's? The best part of COMECON is one seeing we're having it be, a locus of people that you want to see that you don't see very often, but two is also like all just crazy, like backstage about to go out into a panel to green room yeah, so awesome bit is dislike its I got to introduce Vince Gilligan in Patent Oswald Watch, the two of them meek and inert out I did. They had reached out to patent to play a role on breaking bad at one point in the animals like, I won't do this filth screw. You I have morals, no, I'm actually because Vince as a huge comedy fan and Ms Van of amazing thing, so it is, it is fun to watch people connecting

Why did you do it and watching people watching a people nerd out over other a list. People is funny it hold on a courageous it's very humanizing back there, like others, puckered people they like shit. You know also years ago I took thing too to the to the W party. Julia was like I'm tired, just take the boy hilarity in good time. So as we are about to go in, I go so here's the thing you need to know. It's going to free you out how many people you're going to see it here that you, like, I can't believe, are in one place right. Everyone in the party is justice. Freaked out, that's the one. The other thing is: is that normally celebrities trying to make eye contact with people in public right? This is the it's not like. It's you tryin avoided, but you'd try not to encourage it. Does this is it you can feel sort of claustrophobic there? A lot of people are looking at you, especially that the Allister's at these parties, but at the party, its pre filters

everyone's looking around to see. Who else? Is there right so go ahead and go up to people, and so can I take a picture and thing to met the cast of worker colleagues, which is you ve met them die? No them their great being around them is exactly like watching an episode of work, a holler terrific, so blame others. One said: hey there's these glow. Balls in the pool, but their hard plastic they're. Not soft and my son just touched one and figured that out and he said that the blame and blinked says: do you want me to get it for you? Do you owe me to get it for you? Would you like me to get it for you, because the previous year Blaine had swum in the pool and gotten thrown out of the party that brought back in his mind than those in grabs the glowing ball out of the pool and carries around and gets like hundreds of people to sign it. All evening law over to think too, and he goes I need. The sign it because you made me get that saw. That's that's wonderful was amazed.

In the Balkans? Close? What's that, because when a Napoleon's close? No, no, he actually over grab the chair and I moulded into political vision. I thought it jumped in. I wish that would have been a good story if he had just jumped in the pulled it states that was of that was a very sweet story would have been an ethics at our that's that that was the story here's, the story. Ok, Azeri, Adam and NED played jobs, the poor in the middle, the party he jumps out, poor, everyone signs it and then I jumped up like the microphone. You that's how that works. Aren't you know I feel bad. I was feeling I feel like I dragged down the level two you know to fifty. Earl level. I'm ok, we got him were wise. I know you are that's where I am a normal under normal level. This is what it's like when we're actually hanging out of its much worse than there are worse than those people who think that I'm all the sudden like like hip checking

into fell down. Oh no! No! No! I know it's a funny thing right because I am I'm pitch and what do you call it? Stumping further did too that we're doing enough. I want people to know about it, but it is- and this is the way that I talk but of course, because of thinking on families. Listen to this not to know I'm not gonna be talking about cocksucker on. Behind the midst you're bored and approve that it's a myth, like other gets pejorative precipitous, I don't know wines and majority, I don't either. Let's, let's be ok with it. I think we should, as a culture, is absolutely no reason to think that is something to be done. In its stamp of approval absolutely well. I am I'm hope that I can come see the show that the nice theatre- oh man, it's wonderful, wonderful place yet Nokia, Theatre December, seventeen and afterwards well we'll have a little gathering nearby. I would love to know you and if you can't come to this come to the gathering good, I'm glad I started doing by myself and what it was like.

Gathering afterwards with some of the o? Now, I'm actually Everyone else is really busy, so I'm sending out an invite both camps for the show, but also where the parties afterwards good good, looking flick into our love to well, please so urgent, that I said hello, I will and I'll say who's Christine I know that you have to

and I went well and then hopefully I'll break into song, he's on that following Farnsworth device, you watch in the evenings and continue the continued success in science, and I would love to hear that. I why I'm actually here at the end of your tour, just everyone off gas or if you want to talk about it in a recorded fashion. We can do that too, but I just want to hear your journey and lake it just how the bits all played. I totally I will- and I love the idea of listening to the first and last. I keep all the recordings by about eighty now, but I dont listened and much of them except I'm gonna fix a part, but now that you said that I am going to do that. I love that as an extra. It's really interesting. It's interesting to see because you it's hard to track your own grove as its national or to see how things of

You know, if you add one little thing: every show after hundred shows all the sudden its distance incredible, but that's what happens at the end of a month shows feels polished, yeah really really love any just. We get it right away. I figured it out like too has done, this version for you to say that the early shows won't be great. Not at all. Let's clear, ok shows wonder for nobody, just it's not that there are better or worse necessarily it's just that evolves. So yeah just changes. We can you find different things like you, you have to keep it freshly. You change things up all the world's good to see you extra enjoyably to everyone in the end and then ensure tough?

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