Ben Schwartz (Parks and Rec, comedy and improv) chats with Chris about their love of animation cells, how the Simpsons predicted so much stuff that actually ended up happening and Ben talks how much he loves Disneyland. Ben also talks about improv has helped him in every aspect of his life, how the internet has helped people create comedy and everything that he is currently working on!
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is Mr Ben Schwartz,.
Who is not only one of the funniest people you could ever meet, but
so one of the nicest like just nice guy,
Bench words nice guy, he's inside a hedgehog. He is the voice of Sonic, which isn't it
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his words in here. I can't even
also old turtles like these, given away like fucking cereal boxes. I have I have. I have some
Batman animated series ones. I've got some here, I re. Actually, I put my whole collection
up on up interest board on ice
so I can just looked so. I could do yes, as you did for me personally do so. I can. Personally I suffer you. I put the mariner and- and I know how much you are Pinterest yea of innovation, so God so I
yeah, I kind of crazy, but my favorite- I did get. I got
bugs monies from every directorate. So I have like a bob clamp. Less re owns, I think I have a
It's free laying and you have so many, though, that you will. I don't know what you do with it. Unless you make a museum or something I don't know either like the guy that I bought a lot of them from is MIKE many venting galleries. Yes, he host the Disney auction, yes, a big Disney auctions and he was like, but when he opened his eyes for he's doing auctions, of course, just set as you too sold cells and eagles yeah, I was
actor and then I just ended up opening a story because I had so many of them, but I feel it then. I feel bad
Because I have so many that no one
enjoying right now, but at the same time I guess I sort of feel like well. I guess I'll. Just be the war
who is preserving these yet for now and then maybe someday the Vietnam WAR, someone will see them. What do how many
What are you? What are you have? I have just those right now I, like eight or ten, I started collecting cells
two years ago to nine years ago.
And started the Simpsons One and then slowly starting at him, but it can become very it so easy to click on things and buy it or
goods also comic book because they put it up in those boxes and just finger thrown like
the person you up I'll take this
take. Doesnt show danger, ended the bombing. What the amazing about them is that its legitimately a dead art form
No one uses cells anymore. I in fact
like future alma, show that we love narrow, Nov
drama cells. They may have
in the end. I don't think there are any self parks either. I wonder after they did
highlighted the forces or something, but I couldn't find any of those and then Simpson stop do using traditional cells. Yes, but that's also- and I know very little about art and so off what other museum stuff. I can always appreciated, but I know so little about it and I have such a connection with the cells, because in my life I've seen them and I've seen those episodes like the Simpsons
I know exactly what episode therefrom, unlike for me to have it a piece of it,
some reason to feel so. I love it so much it's. It is a piece of history. I mean it's almost like a pickup.
Oh my god, I'm such a fan mail Brooks I get too. I'm gonna buy his arm. You know what I mean cause, it's like it's. It's
a piece of physical history item some from something that that was shown on screen that actual image was shown answering yeah that was shown on screening and to me you know it,
even though the classic animation to me is the most incredible art form because, like
the original Disney's at the old Warner brothers before they started making for television and they before they realize they could make them cheaply. In the fifty Sixtys and Seventys like
when you think about how everything is a fucking.
Of art like the backgrounds, are done by these incredible landscape artists and then the foregrounds or done by these amazing cartoonist? And then they
had these amazing,
I think up Philip Stir Carl stalling this amazing mute musician? Who did this symphony
for these and, like everything about it, every piece I feel just
poles from all these different diseases, the others at what idea local Randy, Cunningham Afghan into one of the directors there,
on the simpsons? Anna was animated to buy way more than one of the directors there done it, and he knows
fanny we just wrapped a hundred episodes, we're the show is ending, was unduly,
sixty and I told her. He knows you knew how much of this, since it seems to me we're like one of the biggest
once in my life is still
and so he's got what was your like favoured Upso days ago, Amelia be Sharps when my favorites of this- and I kept saying
You know what I can I can. I can make us
for you. I have all the stuff that we used to do we use to make cells and I got home. I got a few
and put me in the B sharpset, be made, so he did, he did a cell in any pay. Isa having taken up the paintbrush em take our AMOS colours and he did it
picture of me in my house with the beach
as an actual animated cell in cried out at once, framed in ever. Your first name starts with a b and worked so what of works perfectly would have been in the b sharp watching we ve been cut around
willing. We always watch cartoons when we're falling asleep at night. You know what,
it's sad or no reckon Mortier american dad around you know, so we watching citizens because it Disney Plus- and it is it did.
The idea of its citizens predicts. Everything is uncanny insane, but I saw one that I thought was pretty good than
seen anyone point out yet which is its when homer gets the internet and he builds the web page.
And he becomes MR acts, the guy like riding out of the town and they sent. It then becomes like a prisoner clarity.
It's the idea that, like when he runs out a news he just starts making up. Oh my confidence towards making the inner that has a wonderful, seven, three, five right now, it's a pretty much Simpsons episode every night going to bed because I'm anytime, I watch something on a bed. If its words- and I know I have the idea- I dont know- I pay attention
can't go to sleep, but if something
in so many times. I had all the deities pop onto my computer, someone Compeers had deities them and say that we could save. Remember, remember: Dvds, DVD, they had kind of a short run, it's crazy! I so I would go into watchings. I knew so well, we oughta be like a beautiful, would allow myself to sleep, dvds,
a ten year run.
A solid ten years. I call I like started to collect those two sorry. I started to like those two words like all: I'm gonna need. I had this forever now and then my extreme and give like. Oh, I don't need any of these. Now when I was a kid, my grandfather was a huge techno file and he collected day he got stuff. Where-
the curve- and he got a laser does it was- must have been like nature
the eighty. Maybe the laser display ears like where they were DNA were not fighting plates like they were the size of albums. Oh, my God, the one that people started buying in real life or until way later than nineteen eighty know if they were, they were commercially available new early eighties, but they were, they were the giant.
Is our desks and
so and he had like four five movies that I just watched on repeat. It was like smoking abandoned in Greece and in a couple hours
and
and it seemed like go. This is gonna, be the future, and then the laser discs really just became like a film nerd thing, because the quality in this reality in collections-
get a Betamax player, and then he thought I was gonna, be there
He began to miss the boat and that he was right. The quality was better. He did of all. He literally did all of them. Lovey did all the different levels: yeah yeah, but now
digital, does it bother you out
degree that there are no sonic cells for you from your movie or there I was there. There are things that I grab Sonic,
else. For my move in November,
as when it would make a they might actually violent, but I haven't China, don't you you have added what I think is not blame action, Sonic LCD, so
considering that I mean like the reality, I do have Roger rabbits, eight hours, one that I saw one or two of those at all so excited because some them were painted on actual take photographs, I mean what they they put the layer on them. The I have, I,
the one where
Roger like where any value,
kisses Roger, have that one and one other women I care, I'm amazed. I've got some trod one. Oh, my god, it are in like a light box, so they light up. So you can see that's cool dragons layer from the video games, Europeans layer, sure when the hardest video games of all time. Not once you figured out the pattern, ok, they're with their specific patterns and the boring thing about the game is at once. You figured out the pattern:
yeah. That's it. There is a game. I forget what it was called. That was included was too expensive to play too much as a kid, but it's
the grand one where you're like a cowboy and you just press the right or the left any like shoot summer and do not talk about you. I owe you a split second,
a decision and it s a wizard comes out of nowhere like, but it's all like a hologram in front of you and is it? Is it like foot photographic
tat people, it looks like it's a movie and value, but it yes, I don't remember what
call it was. It was so difficult and it cost so much money as a little kid that you'll like one or two cracks it it and who gets so. You never get to be an area to beat it out loved
and I came again then it's funny to me now that games
devolved to the point where you know like
Quarter, ok, quarters that then they became fifty cents and then like the expense or local, my God, a dollar, then you would buy tokens and yet to tokens, was sort of like Vegas, where you kind of even realise how much money you're spending their tricking. You, yes, and then you have
spending their bad as a card. We don't even think you swipe you just swipe it. You notice like take the money part away, but
crazy thing to me as like. When video games first started coming out, they were, they ve, always been sixty two, a hundred dollars
ends, but the big
crazy thing is, is basically like Framingham
you
he pulls hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars playing premium game's over them over. There lies an insane yeah, so I just some four fortnight airplane for night die. I haven't played fortnight because I know what will happen if I do yes, you did
played fortnight, because I know what will happen if I do yes, he'd be over yet as a game of this guy down or mustard and a couple people of their help develop, and I did some four star wars with J J for them. Like this event, that was, I
in the game, a promo, and it was it
to my mind, I was so taken aback by how incredible the
thing was on. Do you know about what it was at all or no
I know there was a. I remember seeing in my like news feed right it. Obviously your beer, you know your new speed gets in your head, rare, but I saw the I saw the articles about like the star wars. Integrate yes flew down and will make it really quick visit we only to plug fortnight their demographic. There. Ok, I think, they're, my fire only about one point: eight billion dollars over one, I think
the domicile guy, said exciting only about the game, so the personal teach me about aim is the person it's really helping to run it. Is that he's like you, can't buy anything that makes you better
other people like you can't buy an
the weapon are somewhere that there are make you, but you can have different skins and you can have all these things right. So he goes that way. You know if you have no money or if you ve all the money, you are on the same Plainfield Matter sexual. So that is first of all, very kind. I believe that's what he said. Oh maybe people who play for uh listen. This will no more than I do. It's so kind and it's cool, but so
he did what I thought was so ready player one instead of blew my mind was he said. Okay, what's going to happen, is we've been telling people the last week there's a star wars event this time you come to where there's like this little light sphere, coming up right, this fire
oh, come up and then, when you get there this time something to happen, nobody knows what's going to happen and I like
I wish I you know I was playing this
MR blow my mind so you're there and all these people are waiting right. First summit happen. The time
comes J. J enable have microphones on gas, live where they live and they created
gin objectives of the millennium Falcon comes out of nowhere right. The first time ever in this game and thence is starting to get fired.
Right by ties or whatever, and then it lands and then
host comes out the same gentleman who holds the video inwards and I came out as
trooper fn one, forty three one for three fn, I love you and then
J J comes out and we're all talking live in the game. In the
in a second person, a Yo Yo, Green Neve, effing game, we're talking like enough far and game we're talking, live and it's insane because we're doing this empty
for us are controlling our characters. So their moaning anything we're kind of saying so fond like tat of a talking or whatever, and we talk with ease,
there and then gauges like
Then they tell the audience the like. Ok, what what's your favorite, this new there's like different places? You can stand on the map, weren't you vote and then gauges. I got a show: clipped the movie. People look up towards the sky, any put an exclusive clip from moving in a regime for in the sky fortnight within the video game by a ring of video aim. It blew my mind and then before he leaving overtook, Ferko Lifesaver, everybody picks and and some in the emperor comes and we all
if we run and go away and then in the in the thing
and if you know, J J loves is just like a little mystery box on the stage. If nobody touches it, that's it, but it's
goes on stage and opens it. Everybody gets lifesavers
huge lighted and blew it just blew my mind, cause he's at creating a narrative in there and everybody to play it and it was Superfund any so
but you're, not crazy. It was. It was
it just actually behind. Because then you think what else you can do that videogame? If I can talk live to people, you do like comedy, showed you
this you to, it becomes just
it blew my mind how creative an amazing did it. It was sort of like what
Do you you could see what what what seems sort of united and then second life
Then you know, and then Minecraft and its sphere, like the next evolution, ask as its also like a competitive game. On top of that, yet again Simpsons episode, where homer does the delight
action, animated dog and then
Hu Jia, for he it's it's a wonder. He buys stalked in a company I get like he go
they put? This
cap suit on him and then he's this dog animated, onstage, maize, and then it goes into the bathroom and others he appeared at exactly yes, so again, simpsons since told
called all of it. Now I know all of it. We ve been doing here. They call this podcast studies on seventeen August, the living and emphasised that what we really think that recycle radio media was over for the missing-
there's so much been so much that you are involved in that is so here you know notes you don't even look at notes. No, I just talk to people on London like it's a complementary exciting, although you have
RO binder right in front of you? I do this is a guess book. So there have been three guess:
The first two filled up the first one was a rookie, the first one lucky.
Make a noise
these are the guest books and we ve had so far. So this is the the Chewbacca notebook beautiful
and these days this was. You know with a bunch of gas signed it until it filled up
and then this is
that you know that I can one was the handbook for the recently deceased amazing than that when filled up an IRA, now we're on high rule and that's almost full, and so the fourth book that I've ordered is
a little macroeconomic on from evil dead, a guy like that. It's just got the leather
amazing yet so, which is great for audio about this
frankly, I hope, because really enjoy issues are those on really describe as books basically is when we will really understand, but you're involved in so many diptych about what you said. Yeah, I don't plan
what to talk about? Because then, if you do that, you're not listening, you not engage in the conversation. Improbable you dislike improv literally. What it is
the package actually taught me to be a better listener about then I used to be that. Improv is the same thing for me and and where, where did you start
doing and I start doing up on college. It is short for much like little games and software that so it did that when I was a junior in college- and I didn't
on two audition, because my friend said I was
many, but I thought of tradition and I didn't get it. It would destroy me because then it would mean that the people that we're funny in college didn't think it's funny that's round and I had not. Then I would have nothing to identify with what you have just described like the business,
I would add in writing to write something- and you think it's funny use it so nerve racking to give it to somebody else. Ride like this is what I think is great. What do you think right is terrifying work as the audience in your head isn't always right now, some does.
I am suspicious of things that I write that I think are too funny reason that I go oh, this is too inside my own had no out was gonna get, although if you get it and other there's somebody also connect to it, may not be the person you give the scripture monopoly that lets. You gave your minds at rest there. Somebody is like that, but you're very sweet, because when I was in ITALY when leading Iron ITALY last summer, this really nice
but he felt Simeon.
Sudan, Instagram Name's, frank, maternal is
Canadian and ran home, and he hosts he's one of the judges of ITALY's got talent? These are really
we guy, but he lived in. The states, philosophies bilingual and my speak Italian. So he speaks English, so we came up with me.
Been bonded and he was talking about Improvin. I was asking you questions on his behalf. Oh yeah array, improv shows I was. I was texting you from Rome, that's insane. He was so delighted that you, because, obviously he knew you weren't was a fan of yours, and so it was very kind of you. I had no idea tat. He was a judge on ITALY's got talent. May I e g t the idea. The idea? Tangley Israelis got the some talent you out on a tiny. These sees how we speak of the Italian, my new Sherwood, where they cooking something aggravating adapt, beats me say: BS appeals holding the device nice any other things that you're gonna be sooner monsieur for dessert. Sure. Ok, you drinking alcohol, no bad, they fight deed. It would be the greatest lovely lovely what part of ITALY you from all parts of our efforts in ITALY as like raw and talk any more than the birth started in a row. All she was on a trained, and so she couldn't get or yes, your head was born in your shoulders or imposing an ear yet see I've seen the vagueness of their very wet to O. While it's amazing, I married you know it's good to be. He is concerned, and I hate interrupt you so basically, most of your body is born on a train than you went to some sort of boat in Venice Sea, and then you see. Ok, that's yes! In ITALY and I went to see I went to see, ok and why you're in the sea, the rest of your body was kind of born, yes, is an evil. I think that, and I haven't seen the film and I think, that's what happens in our common- isn't that how it gets his power, its other senior awful man, it's one of the things that outcome andreasen Mama
leave a. I went to ITALY once I went to Rome you once and I love
so much. I was always will stay for one day or two days.
I stayed another night and I just love walking. I remember I had these airports and rather called- and I,
just walk. Is it's insane? I'm listening to like saw music, that I wasn't doing them here and walk round, but then it's like these pieces of
that our buildings that have been standing for years, and you cannot believe you just walking around that. It is crazy
and when you see I mean there too, there are. Basically there is a strategy for their stratified history. There there's two levels of insane history that is already like centuries, older yap, then our than America's colonial history, but it it
if you look at buildings like all that was built in the fifteen hundred zero and if you look down that little Shap down there, that you can see the original roman road, that's actually two thousand years old insane and in that building is John. The Baptist head. I mean it's simple, crazy, you're, just like we don't have
frame of reference, Nels, Americans, canal, snap, it's beautiful or highly rod, I loved it just walking around was amazing. Yeah, hey, listen! You know, there's a reason. Clooney spends its time in ITALY cause it's. It's a romantic places, the latter that he'd series. Why doesn't espresso commercials over there
I love it, I paid for yeah I paid for his lay Cuomo. I think so compound readjustment espresso adds yeah. I has to be right. Do
it deserves a place that you like to go, do vacation anywhere that you enjoy? I like to go to Europe because I don't I don't know much, but work has taken me to Europe, so I feel comfortable there. Every now and then work is take me to London quite a few times and then parasites
at times we have been able to go there, but I still haven't done.
The big ones. I have never done Hawaii, like the version of a man like I've, done that yet
and I haven't done Japan, which I know you love Japan. I've seen robot video
of yours from Japan from years of EV travels of Europe as a Disney fan that you are. I know you there to Disney lands there so line up by heavy see. Of course you have seen imagining documentary on the dizzy plus it was you think, I'd seen it and I haven't seen any is spectacular. It was the first,
I watched when I got Disney plus and it is amazing, ends
a supporter of a rise in the
distance right or ever so evident. Why do you want to watch the annex? I wanna be: you want to be a surprise daylight. It were, it was great
a for those parks, and I dont know exactly it's hard to do
outside of one on there. I just feel like a kid and if you like, you, ve totally escaped and I think,
the kid having to go very often, I think, once or twice and was afraid going on the rights. And now it's like open
me and then because I've done a alive Disney stuff. Once a year I get
guy you know about which changes everything and then I get to bring friends in that, have never been and watch them go through. That experience in its one of my
just to watch their theme park, experience being ruined for the rest of their lives and I get to skip the line it and then the next day they gonna part like oh, my God, is create. This is why people come to these parks for like a week at a time, because it too it can take that loans. It get throw everything luxury, but I've only been Disney Land about Disney. That's the only one have been two concepts right where we live,
does the world I went to once when I was a kid, but I was too scared to get on space mountain. We waited on the line and it was too scared to get on. So I left
am I and my mom is like mopeds icon on their guard, and my sister really want to go, and I get my dad's like I've been undergoing either
my sister's link with the guy when she she has wonderful twins, heard her husband, Jerry. I brought them
However, my family took them to Disneyland and we did everything that she didn't get to do. What's your favorite read my favour, its that's. How they are not imagine that I love Indiana Jones and I got to go
Armenia, Jones returning Baxter. If I say that
Never, I believe I am by the German who created at in space tor,
and stuff I go charters, yes, Tartarus start towards any help. Do splash mountain. It taught me back
I feel like it is, it is right. Yes, so he saw was therefore
they open up galaxies edge and a randomly
It's happened me there when JET Lucas was there was George Luke Zone was a great dude and
Tony, I guess, knew him so Tony's, a goddess hang out with you guys and he is
did some of them most he's an imaginary deck winter. When you see you lose your mind now, I'm so glad they did acts as a while ago I pitch to Disney plus when they were gearing up for it.
I really want to host, like the wonderful world of Disney, like Greece, to watch on Sunday night, not doing all the behind the scenes imaginary stuff there like we're already,
yes, so you're gonna
but now I can't believe you haven't watched if I keep forgetting its there, because we are in and
era of
I mean we're on a gluttonous media consumption era where there's just so fucking,
much of everything to watch all the time. What do you think happens? I've heard this conversation recently because I'm currently in three things on Netflix one thing Disney plus one thing on Hulu but like all, and so my question is what what happens right now. I think also will be written about in our entertainment books.
Not the history books, but that there was like we had our channels than we had cable than we.
Do you know like the advancement of a cable has been a little too streaming and now we're in it? This is the war right now to see if this is going to be a thing,
not only that, so not only is there a glut of of like professional, big media, but
technically social media has turned every human being into a broadcaster.
So you with power with power so like you,
You could literally be just programming for one other person in theory
as a social media broadcast. You know what I mean like if there's one or two people following your thing than you're, just bearded programming for like one or two, so there
just so much of everything,
no. I mean old,
ITALY we are burdened by.
For choice right now, and I think people do want simplicity. So,
Cable starts to break apart, it will
ray coalescence sums it like
somebody's gonna have to have a words like ok, I don't want to
and have to subscribe to is gonna be basically max visible as this that so just like. I want to basically a re imagining of what cable wives exactly I'll pay one thing, and then I will just get all of them, and I think this is bigger companies.
Are buying and buying. I think, what's gonna happen is you're gonna see that some of these are gonna drop out of knowledge. One's been like that of all these different streaming, things that are coming out and I think that people just gonna buy the properties from those absorb the properties that there's a kick
to be sure this, but extremely servers are going down. Yes, roomy service will pick up the rights that that's other recoup that money, so that not totally go bankrupt. Absolutely it's all another fibres. They'll just be like you know, small amount of them with all the content. The next like
the three years we very telling about women. I feel like there's so much even though
because a lot of content being made in the business right now, if you are in
If you make television it's a very odd time, because a lot of places still doubt entirely know what there
be doing in a year if they're gonna be around hypes of things. They're gonna be a green and it put so much money in right now, they're making huge risks. Yeah these companies are taking enormous, a monetary rest. You have to be a feeling you would you have too kind to be Disney at this point to really make it work to be spending that much money, because there are smaller
companies in their spending so much and it's like what. How do they hardly going to reach
this important, because people-
scribe. Hours might subscribe,
for a month, but then they
bail once they see the thing that they wanted to down, and then recent scribe later are like you know, pirate stuff, I don't know, are starting out now. How would you change your let's say you? You are not established at all and lets
you're doing stand up, but I guess you're doing singled out at the very beginning on the very idea. Let's say you just doing stand up. John Dene had that platform Yoda. How would you utilise how
you utilise the platforms you have now? Can you talk, but you can have, nor into one yet to get your career out their stuff that, because my my parents would have been similar
I did it but using different level right now. I think I would like
ripple down on Instagram TV, oh
damage or MTV Instagram TV, which is the longer form content, because there they ve theyve
you can build channel streams within its ram tv, and so I would be putting up like daily comedy.
And I mean, if I were younger, I went depends like if our starting out now at my age, pray Instagram TV. If I were like fifteen and nineteen, I would do Tik Tok, but I dont know the thing
Tik Tok, is that it feels to me like, and I might be wrong. I apologize if, if anything- and I am saying, is offensive to any content creators but to me Tik, Tok fields,
spiritual successor, divine right and there's a varies.
Civic language in Tik Tok that I almost feel too old to be a part of almost like an old Ghana, Gayety, kids, Tiktok and over there, and so what I
I is if, yes, you
you can have you no ten million followers on Tik Tok and all your videos get millions and millions of use. Will those
people like,
put on shoes and come see you at a venue. I don't know
What I have noticed is that a lot of
whose audiences do not cross platforms,
always, but sometimes like Youtube,
it is to stay on Youtube I feel like into unless-
Creators were good at cultivating like a multi faceted, but but often too too,
port not always but often to port one audience, you know think of your.
Youtube, or it can still be difficult to get eyes on television or on Instagram our on this or that because each one,
this kind of its own planet, with its own indigenous language- and I
like those users, so I dont know you could be a tick tock start, but if you wanted to be alive, touring act without necessarily mean that that audience would come see. You live in the answers I dont know right, but I would probably trend I probably
postwar stand up stuff on Instagram, but I just get really self conscious about it. I had a vital I'm all my old jokes unaware that how those are the rules must be rejected, but I didn't offer
in the show on fiscal space force, yes abilities of it, the big spit, that's a fuckin big show. It is, if it it's a big one which is funny because suicide around its like so much has happened
Much content is coming out,
the question I asked sometimes just like. Well, how do you stand out? How do you care in the show? I don't have to do anything it's the show is Steve crawled John Malkovich, like I as a nurse
comedian. If I wasn't on the show, I would be watching that's great Daniels to re write, Vinos created it, it's insane, it's great and it's really funny in its based off of the real thing: that's happened.
In real time, the spaceport, its literally yet being put they? They posted there camels their real cameras and we
course on our show have camels and
Greg emailed us is that greater pulls out with this amazing an actual their camels are, like you know, a camera five river, but the joke of our show.
Our cameras are creators of the moon yeah. So it looks like blue creators of the moon and we look it's
Where then show look absolute, you know it's lunacy.
Posted our. So it's happening in real time while we're editing it such an interesting
The show is covering something that's happening in real life, while you're watching this
it's a very good thing, but so do take,
he's like a little promo thing. I did some fundamental promised for Netflix would take I've never seen it before, and so they introduce me to it
noticed from personal one, is that there is a lot of funny fuckin people out there really funny and people at me
maybe always been. Finally, people that may boys been funny now had a platform, but also
an improvised. It's a game like, let's see, there's a game of seeing as we call it. You know that Tria yeah yeah, it's a u c, b term. What? Basically, if I understand it,
directly it's it's. The mom
that everyone sort of collectively recognizes like that.
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particularly isolated from a show. Yes, I just landed Dick. Do this progress by just had to show in San Francisco but twelve hour, and I want to talk about your improve shows, but improv is
thing that I think any crime
a person should at least look into because of their so much that you get out of it. That's not just during improv. It helps me in writing and tell me, but one of the things you play that game and the ideas you're not supposed to like a pop up units, but let's
the pink ping pong match, but teacher my Billy merit once I think about it. As you know, ping pong match we got back and forth and back and forth
hit me game really hard over and over again you're. Never gonna. U never gets rally. Yes, you have to be less improbable about listening and playing back and forth. You know stuff like that. Yeah soda wanting a book but show what it is. It was interesting that people notice there there essentially doing that and that it be like a bit that happens on Tik Tok, and then everybody can occur
be carrying it in their own way. Who or it's like you know, something happens, and it's like again on a very, very the idle, nothing. I don't have to take it up, learning about it now, but something would happen.
And in literally the next video is someone making
fun of what just happened. Then the next videos, some unpretending, be the point of view of a light bulb. Yet all that thing is happening and you just keep swiping, and it tells me it's this
joke from like forty different people. It's like it's like it's like the it's like. The first
one. He responses on a red thread, exact where its liking Avonlea Right, where the funny kind of like that, it's like a visual. It's like a moving visual version of a common thread where everyone is having a conversation. Yes and it's all and Tiktok definitely seem to be
what was Lipsitz based and then kind of joke base where there'd be some joke, reveal it, and so, but I feel like with Tik Tok its
to like it did so
what with vine or even early Youtube that anyway,
is very establish you're, like a big company, that people are almost a little suspicious of it, because it's supposed to feel like what's accompanies a facebook or something? No, no, I mean, like I mean, like a big media company like getting onto Tik Tok airlines based on average, because it's like it is
in almost feels like it's supposed to be for Jack, for, like everyone and the less
professional. It is the more authentic it is yeah, because people are just fucking around and no one's trying to tat you see beat the beginning of your memory. Use you be in New York at the beginning of his like cut called the C b GB of Comedy, unlike was underground, we're under gonna Fuckin Christy's, oh yeah, there was a hundred twenty people maxim you'd line the two giants, fucking posts at a stage where, how is an internet declares the bag than it was in league? Yes, I worked out was pathetically, although nominating Arbed, and it was like and it felt so cool and all the funniest people in the world become now to perform for free
and it just felt so cool and then you know, as anything gets bigger and bigger and bigger, and so many people that you know it, it changes the Bible little Bit, but I remember that at the begin
you see man in New York? It was I literally every time I went to enter and I thought I was going to the funniest in cool place have ever been in my life right and I've got better at all my skill.
In committee, because I just got to watch those people before they ve been became Hugh,
whenever I met with great too about Tiktok in particular. Is that your basically watching a bunch of people in
but idea and your washing evolve quickly in your watching. People use it in ways that, like I
This dude, who just
we were the name of it. It's like his dogs name is penny or something, and he just does
dogs voice. So you see the dog and the dog like barking at somebody adds a goop nope and it just so simple, but it's so
done, and I just it's like. Oh my,
do, you know everyone is his figure out how to x
ass, their own comedy voice in a way,
that is when we were growing up would have been impossible. Like aren't going up like we
to get a video camera then you're gonna have to edit and you have the tape and then you're gonna have to get to tape, deck machines and then you and how
You know what would a class two thousand
thousands and I've been. What do you do it that once you make it you'd have to rely on Youtube and help anybody looks at it and how to get any way to care about anything. For you too, when when I was growing like how would you, and so it's so there's literally no excuse anymore for perfect anyone who wants to be
former too, not just so, when you ask what I would do, I would just make content every
no date doesn't matter you dont have to not get out of here.
Every time cause. If it's not great, then it doesn't algorithmic
it doesn't spread and no sees it, and then you
he bowed and keep adding the consistency
If you haven't, we are growing up, it was all about the the comedy album
being generate landmark and now, especially because a podcast,
This content is so ubiquity
and plentiful that, like a special, doesn't necessarily it's like a nice landmark in away, but it's a mile Marguerite.
I've right past it it violates of what we saw militant Schwartz.
Has three communist measures coming
Well, once we get em all once, which was maybe Mr Sarkozy it's an hour and a half of improv each, oh, my
we did for shows and we cut one and you dont Adam together, whatever happens in this zone of Euro commercial, but we taught you should come to Europe
please you and I loved you know, but we
basically Golly audience and for these set, especially the question, we asked what looking forward to what you dreading gives us what we can do, and we talk to someone
real conversation with someone for, like you know, five minutes, then nobody talks about
there for an hour in ten minutes, Thomas and I make up an entire show, almost like a plague, I'd think typing off that. So one show key
The edited with another show cause this. Is that doesn't make sense right, so we have so basically for this
streaming service which were not allowed to announce. It. They'll have a big announcement thing, but it'll becoming up hopefully soon, but our
editing now, but it was very nerve racking to dislike. Aren't you have four shows you got it
keep three of them. I believe it what we're going to, I believe in the sure. So what happens? If you have four badge,
or, like you know, demeanor, if you had a show that you want, you know, I mean
so there's a lot of pressure on
forming so and also to person were performing from cameras, so the first show automatically is weird cause as improvise.
You find the unusual thing and in the usual thing is everywhere. We looked cranes and stuff like that, so we had to get used to that end. It in front of
you know and that's an extra pressure to at least when you're doing a show live you
You feel loser because you're like oh, you know what I like. Not everything is going to kill, but you know what it's just for us in its experience and once you put especially comedy
specially like a lived, a company with alive audience when people watch it
a medium. There
instantly like out of the energy of the room? Yes, oh, it changes. The dynamic of the comedy share so imagine at being for on. I am I'm really please help him out, but what you guys are linked to the best in providing all your browser or very kindly, but even think I mean, although I remember Africa must have do. Pack has your return, but how long would take you degenerate material for you to do a special? I remember your amount of time was pretty quick, you're, pretty quick it that I remember no well.
I feel I feel like I rushed my last
Specials now, maybe that's critic, and now I am I am. I am approaching this next one which I feel like. I'm I'm a year away from shooting is I write
for like two hours every morning at breakfast, and I just like even
just look at the same. You know like I'm in this, but now I'm not writing aiding new, be I'm just retooling in shaving yeah, but
is that it is great about your improvident, like you do in its done. You have to think about it there, but also its like for you. You know you will work on a piece of your work on your set for sluts a six months or a year whatever, and then you ve tried it over. You
you ve done these jokes one million times you know exactly. Where do you know where your paws sorry nor to hit the audience up at that? And then, when you film it, when you tell me you know it's still a lot of pressure.
You're, doing a material that you know works in your products. We have now
idea what should be about. So we can get
suggestion. That's really sad like we will look for suggestion was kind of sad
for a show. We just did and it's like, but we were pretty good it like
We hear the first thing. We just do it because this country say yes and yes, it is
to show we. We ve heard a lot of time. So so it's
it's crazy. If someone's like, I meant we had a suggestion once there was like yeah, I'm
somebody, unlike cooking up with this girl, but she's married, but the guy has cancer supply. That and I was like, oh my god, what the fuck
are we like? Sometimes you find the really fun stuff in the darkness and sometimes
gotta we'd your way and fine like whatever, but we have now
I deal with the shows are going to be so. The added pressures-
for each one. The show's shows whatever it is. It's gonna be on screen forever, because we have four shots were airing three of them, so it's
going to be, none of us could be the best show we've ever done, and none of her give me the beat ride material characters. You've ever done just hope that our skills are such that we can handle whatever sort us that people will
enjoy. What we're doing. Also I biggest goals.
The people love the people cause a lot
having seen them from improprieties right what it is at the beginning that we shall write so we're hoping to people like oh shit. This is crazy to making up in their body headed in that dynamic by the way, creates a whole other agreement with the audience where Cause improv to me, as it is
they like I'm like a magic trick right like it's. It's that type
oh my god, oh they gonna fall all MIKE and when they are right and when you do, but I would argue that
ass- you do make it up on the spot, but I think the me
conception might improbable would have reached, makes it up and shit anyone can do and it's like
but you have so many years of training, so you
you in and middle ditch have have. These in
ridable machines in place? Yeah, we'll crank out these perfectly formed Haven,
of comedy, because you know you trust each other and
know each other out? And you know that like if I start too far
you know the other guy's gonna be able to examine our Rach him and inadequate and that acrobat its
in acrobatic act that you,
you, it's built on trust and experience, and you know, and you and you guys you you,
worked very hard to get today will have to make it look effortless so that you, the best, aren't you can't see the law
their bill. I just in mobility, based on the line he told me anytime. You talked about anything. I listen sum up yours, but he said when the biggest things
No in countries like never never let him see you work. Never let us see working in order mean yeah just putting your work before we get on stage in their home were performing a were on camera. Do you thing, dilemmas,
like the whenever anything. That's exasperate I've been doing improv for almost twenty years now and Time Thomson out again
parliament doing ship for ten years on and off in order mean and then move to land and he came and
right. We have such it's. Also, you find those partners that it's just it's it's for some reason everything clicks together.
Some people just ignite you it's you write them. We once you ve done improper, while you can count improvise with everybody, but when you find someone that it's like all this is special like. I could go here and just would like you, you
Oh, I wear that where I'm gonna go and I'm starting a new we build shows, while richest, really beautiful, I think
the background music. We have a decent show to show people the kind of
well, there's a lot of pressure and you you wish that? Oh, my god, I hope you have a better with ever had and that's Iraqis and there's never going to happen. So you get it put. That's the backyard of Hawaii
a decent show to show people. The kind of shows that we can do
hope they're kind of different. Also so people can see like when you gonna sage, they could be totally fucked Nick.
And they are the ones that were in opening together now are that but there's a big risk and the people that Syria,
special even said. It's like we
hard to sell this. Even we sold out party hall. We saw that guy what theatre we so that all these places it doesn't matter, because when you go to the network of extremely service new pitch, though I can
What's the special was the show like we don't know, we have no idea there like any one, is to put millions of dollars. That's exactly right and then alike will put the exact minimum every can put in, and I said, ok, that's fine, we'll take. We don't need to make money we just want to. We wanted it's. Basically, your proof of concept, that's right it, but if it all
mentally is India. Is the goal like if these do well you'll do like another's the areas of that's over? The goal is if these do well that and then and then hopefully it will allow.
This place to welcome illiterate Morse Improvin. Maybe we could build something off just kind of I wanted. I wanna dig into your brain a little because I won't understand like how do you
however, these usually can we offer while six seven hours. How do you do
be anywhere at all. Either literature I just landed, I'm great. So
back to back as we're done, you have to get back into fine euthanasia wit, how
You define like in your mind: how do you, how do you do
like whether or not a show was successful like is it
so how much the audience laughs or is it based on your own? All they might laughed, but I feel, like I dropped the ball ring. I should ve requests which have never been asked before. I am after shows I'm very hard and very hard
on shows for us, but I remember coming up.
An improved, shows a used ice
so mad at myself, fight like a bad show, or something like that? If I thought I was bad, I would drive myself crazy for that whole night. I be disappointed
up the next morning, can't believe that that's we know and then, as you
do more more. Of course you have better shows in you. Your failures are less in other still there but less, and then you kind of finding
whenever so, what am I going to show us? The audience laughter is a big one, but also the way that we handle situations also. The way that we bring a whole show together, make if you like one piece and like a fun peace, not just eating cotton, candies, arrays, I'd use like we can. We, we have
Where sometimes you just do a job, don't joke! That's not as exciting for me as we give you like an
or show you know. I mean I just improper to we talk to the audience for fifteen minutes of taxes for fun but like
we bring should together. We have these clear characters, we told the whole story and we get off stage. We ended up with a bang like that's like we had one of those. This
this week. We are really fun Portland that was very plant based which narrowly
to do as much in improved, but we found a way to get all these character. Games working, really pull together and it had a nice little ending and it was in front of three thousand or twenty six hundred people it was like.
Very exciting. So after that it was like thomas- and I will talk about things we liked and didn't like. We never do like a big run down if we had and then we'll come on stage. Sometimes it be like that
little like we're working really hard for those laughs or something like that and will chat about that stuff always say
german Sir Silverman, whom at the very beginning MIKE
play my sister in a movie and since it has been like myself
You have been amazing to me. I once
because I get my had not done a thousand two thousand two thousand don't know many shows improve, shows by now and
suppose someone after my word, you called me a thousand may not not on that trend
ok. I know someone said something very nice me like that.
Keep it gives me that up? That was when the Bush was ever seen in an irishman like a really, I don't love that one, I'm so happy
did, I wasn't into an answer: pull me side and she's like what are you doing
and I said what I said- was that person loved loved you show up
just sign you're gonna telling him there dumb indefinitely me. It was a huge eye. Opener chagos you're, not telling their personal opinions wrong, because you didn't think cause you're just being what
it Tom it a nerd, a jewish nerdy, that's a double edged, because basically, what you're, what you're,
first of all, your sort of being south deprecating enough being able to take a compliment but very badly taken. Compliments second of all and talk about myself and in a positive light is hard. Sometimes I feel like I don't ever come across
fuckin asshole in you. Couldn't because your your
energy I get Ben. I would. I would
to think that you are probably generally regarded as like one of the sweetest people in comedy
change tat tonight, I'm taking one soul but
but also like you know, then it's
exactly you're no are also going to cause. I do I've done. I've done the same thing to and then you're also kind of.
Showing your
security to some odd, yes and that's right, a kind of making them feel weird because there are watching your kind of like many.
My anxiety on them exactly right, instead of just like. Oh my gosh, thank you. So much yes, which is a very very can be a very difficult thing to do, is
and there I wasn't there- some shows a Thomas, then we get out and we thought we had good shows like
They cannot be good, show them. When someone comes up- and I get that was also like those of fun one. That's like the most complement, elaborate saying that we have to find those upon one which is funny because at the beginning of my improved career, I noticed when people had bad shows the first comment when someone would go up to them and if a friend went up to him
would you think a somewhat, like all other gives a lot of fun up there and never talk about what happened this year. If it was funny are involved and the other one is like, I could never do,
that bright, exact added so brave. I could never it's fun and bravery. I could never. I don't know how you do it yonder. What was wrong the audience of enabling things didn't like, but whatever you know their pride type, but
It was great. This war,
got what you are doing
yeah. I don't know I mean, do you ever. I can. I think it so easy for us as
I don't see you, I don't I'll come after you got that,
ok one or like added
about that one and then the audience reaction Twitter, an interim, is some of the most
things. I've ever seen where I can't judge our own, you dont know so doing these specials is so hard because I'll look at it
like. I don't know what what do you think you're a mean, because we done so many shows, and we know what the best ones
can we note the worse ones that like, and so it's like sake, I hope people like
I really like this, this one like it. So it's like it such an she thinks I can't I'm not the best judge of things. Like my people close to me and my parents know, it's tough will be like
well come off stage, but I don't know, but not one of my dad's, like TAT, was fucking great. What are you talking about rights and understand my head? Just because that's what we do as well as people closely like back as I've, had shows that I thought we're. Just okay and Lydia's been like that show
great num lock your but Europe, of course, you're gonna sing autonomy is yes, you're. Seeing me differently there s, no, but the audience. While I just didn't feel I felt weird- and I just I lingered- I wouldn't want I added, but it is also a probably pushes us also
thing I remember- I mean I did you pot other Pike S years ago, but you and I work very hard very
hard and I think maybe those anxieties in those things push us to keep working in like if we, if we came up
and tat. We were great every time we would probably be satisfied, but wouldn't we can
but you can also earnestly, but the truth matters like whatever metric is in our head. For how because
how many people we want to destroy every time s and but that
mean something very specific in our heads and I'm not sure if it's a combination of like I've, really fellow
I was firing and our cylinders. You know, I really
with the audience and there too,
times where I can sort of feel
and I imagine this is what the zone-
feels like which is just like the experience
being purely in the present yeah, where it just feels it's just that, like SAM Raymie, Spiderman time we're everything slows down and you can see the wings on the fly flapping solely around, and you know like here's what I am saying now there's,
going next, there's a guy in the audience back there. That said, something and article left turn in that, and then it's like you're just fully present
for everything, and it kills those to me, but those
and every single time, nor I think, would you appreciate them if re did
SAM ratio now runs, are owns. College humor just recently had this line here. One of my shows- and we talk about it-
really fun share will function well,
Joe and he came up he's like all I I he was very complimentary, very kind and I've been friends them for years, because I d come,
wish it when I was very young and
I know it is when you're on stage you doing stuff, I saw it. I know what is it he goes. That's meditation for you because you
meditating, because exactly you explain it was meditation, is basically you're not able to think about anything but what's happening
that moment, re Ngos and exactly what you're zone is, is exactly that when, where, when we're, improvising and
going well or not in her head, really good. What's going on right now, you all you're thinking about is what's happening in that moment. Reacting to the thing in front of you sounds like I never thought about that like that before, but I guess there's an aspect
That's really like ready for you in particular, but also because of the improv, but you know it but
this just when you do a lot of shows some shows you kill effortlessly. Some shows you bomb working hard. Some show you know, some shows are just don't feel like anything or disorder the middle, but the audience concerns like you. Care
ray. That's? U judging iou! Judging you are. You can't really say what the audience thing, sir, how they're like you have to allow them to feel
how they're going to feel. Yes, I also take things that you can even think from it. Like people will come out of shows and be so happy and then
ok great, but it
because we're very hard nurses, but also able to we ve, been doing it so long now that it's like were able to build.
Was a green like the audience had fun. That was fun for us that what we do look better, but we don't fret like before, shows
warm up, we literally or on our cell phones, backstage for Largo. Our monthly show we get a theatre. Five minutes for the show starts. We put our Macrones China, we go out and stay.
We don't do any warm up anymore, won't do anything and then what
were we to shows in one night and am were gone like it's just like second nature us and supervise their there's. Some possible is gonna, come up,
they're. Just there there there's there's some leeway. Member
three to ruin it way for you to make a mistake.
So much of risk here, a crisp ammonia and I will all of it so
and I'm gonna totally butcher the story, but the eighth, but the idea that you'll get. But it's this you know like it's
go Picassos. An old man he's in a cafe here
grimaces get you wrote with Israel. I was really think: ok
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people something on a napkin and then a woman leans over Missus Hale by that from any goes. Ok great. You know fifty thousand thousand just like fifty thousand dollars that took you like twenty
I can draw it. He said no, it took me sixty years. Basically this
Some total of all of your were all of the work that you have put into. This point allows you to show up and just
on stage. So, as I mean, of course, when you don't rear, not comparing Picasso, what long
for milk products has always there's literally seen throughout go. I gotta get that ass. All a jump international and end up in my clearly workers job evacuated. Think because so prettily painted some pictures of assholes that he didn't Jerry, Garcia guy he's a person year, you painted some shit joke scores, just like your blood, your eggs, with blocks of shit coming out and where I do think you're absolutely right that it's like in any art form any work. You know even someone that works to steal Miller, but about what you put in your hours. It become second nature. You can kind of you, which is its vicinity, killing the myth that people are duly work. You do show up and no, but but but like it that years of your tail, they get to that lawyers is failing in an hour. Do you guys? Are
more comfortable. Now, I'm only
jealous of the welfare of stories about how it s analysis, catch it and go well. He just be like that. A well and ended
didn't stick with him for whatever reason, rainy. That is like freedom, because
as comedians alot at times I, like you, said we can just torture ourselves over a share our. Why did I say this out? I wasn't listening in than this, and I've been this person was in the rule out back. You know right right for me to its
If there's a move that I missed or something like TAT, is my protest of something phallic was my fault also get him. I have like that stuff that sticks of me,
we don't really you. If somebody like.
How do things like the last lesson that really stuck my head? But if, if a show
poorly. It would buy me out and then be able to erase it in my not erase atole but be like what we have another show next week or two. I would want
already myself. Well that's. Why performing a lot helps? Because, yes, if
one show a month in that show didn't go. Well, then you ve been your mind. You failed a hundred percent of the time that month, if you have to
twenty shows they're gonna,
The gamut of January, like our than you gonna, take the overall average guy did. Ok, I haven't for what will have two shows a Largo and our first show, which, according to the very cool about Rebecca,
but I won t like I'm really happy evermore shot tonight and in the second will be totally different, ignoring the whatever the audience has given us, and then, if that were the redemption, I think I better
My second chose a little bit crap. I was it we re done along of
we never come off stage be like with bombs. That was terrible right because we can always keep a show afloat absent. Sometimes it's a little bit more clunky, some hundred sweating yearning mean today
through it, but usually ino. Especial more in our home large was like our home court rank. You now go into empty your next. I gotta above the knights of the next, lose every game now so determined within their reverence nature, a popular basketball team in the envying and me as the National Massimo Association at the national bowling. It round ball into basket, ok
Michael Jordan them, but the might of space age has also case or the Knicks replaying bugs bunny suit. My monster, minors is already regulated, but
when you, because you
have to sort of cultivate. The
there, can you see anything is don't think. Yes,
you just say whatever
you say whatever comes to your mind, do our
whoever worried like do? You have to send to yourself,
though, if you're, like my brain, is going to this place that I've. This is a well I've.
And from a lot. This is a joke. I've made a lot or oh, that's too
the other thing I can't say it- it just eyed, and so you have to like really edit quickly, it's more so now than before, met much like how Stanhope so sometimes in our view, away from stuff or some other, but the first one, which was,
I have a gun down that road before all
the time. I will stop myself if there's a suggestion like oftentimes
one was a graduation. So we'll talk to them and we will ask some questions.
For on stage I will never allow or
best, never allow moment be anything similar to what it was. Now we can proposals. We can have different versions what proposals the like, but if there is a proposal that some of those the top mountain and proposes we won't
that again even I was I will it's funny, because in real
forget about a ship in shows
particular remembering a little bit, so I will make sure we don't go down those pay
end of something does feel like it will be offensive or subway that my brain will veer away from it or try it out yet or if it's happening
if someone on stage which we know throughout my group, someone stages doing something like this- not gonna go. I will call it out, so it feels like you know like
you can't do that. That's bet! You can't say that you don't and make it so whatever or
you learn? If somebody on stage in your group says something in the audience feels offenders summer that you kind of
It could in I mean it,
be some other even mean you're, could also make them a character in the Improv Day out that
I'm very I try my best to be very, very safe, and I would never do something because
people to feel good and Javier, where I really try my best. Never to do something offensive, I'm sure my Vienna whenever Glinda that, but that is but but but my point is that in the sort of don't think that sort
upper level of that is like. Sometimes you do have to think, but still be able to ya think around what, if you're playing characters
so in someone's, like us, stereotypical or like, if someone's like a very flamboyant.
Gay character, homosexual, Djibouti Q, so
how do I dont want to offend anybody, so I don't want to get on stage and do like right. Someone is from Japan. We had a way to show that someone was going to Japan or somewhere that, as I can't I'm not can do that action.
Reduced candy. I accept no use it does. I just won't yeah it's like so I will come on
age, you know, as a japanese person, has a perfect american access to certify that, I suppose you know back the day might have been a little bit different, but it hasn't deterred us or taken us away from the comedy at all. Do what I would imagine that it wouldn't because again, when you get to that up,
level when you get
upper level of improv. Those are just that and sometimes
had can be gifts because having to think of
stuff like you, it's basically just given another set of rules, which is what
but are giving you when they're, giving his suggestions are giving you a set of rules to follow its interesting. So you are and that's why I think it is
if you're writing or your creating something- and you get you know like we are now-
no sir, you have limited budget or whatever those are gifts and away, because you have it forces you to be creative yeah to have to think around those Yemen. Let me think about I'm sure, I'm sure
Jones and wasn't it written is like a bee type movie
it was a raiders like a bee type movies like some of those or even jaws, with other problems with jaws. Like didn't, Spiller have to figure out ways around the edge of the shark that wasn't while we I yes like all. I think a lot of that stuff lends itself to nice. Try Spielberg here I mean what are we gonna next term create next
Maybe I guess that ever talk to him. I've met
hey? I've moderated a panel with God S. I didn't embarrassing thing did
I hadn't Basle moment bills are met and was about it for me to o k you you'll meet, offers you wanna go for years can be better. Mine is a very tight. It's a great it's that horrible. It's just like it's one of those like bite, and I do that. So I was moderating a panel might have been ready player one and he was on it. I met and earning fine near earth, declines, level,
and backstage you know? We were
taking pictures and
in saying this, I do not want it
no, it's embarrassing that that's what we're doing a picture if we could
touch the tip of my. He was like no, no, no! No! No like he, he brushed it off in a way that was a little like that abuse just like.
Just like no added, I took my shot and then after as like of course, and then in retrospect I was like
did I, but you know I guess I
the swing, because the
and I knew that it was a corny thing to do like it. I want,
say like no, no, I know it's a court elegance for comedy, and but you know
sometimes you do take us. Sometimes people there, like. Oh, my god. Of course you know, like my life, for him in particular its like he's, been
literally everything, and so it was a very quick moment
It's a great story, and I take a picture that when we took our picture, but I had that you know that feeling
where you feel,
Rio brewing in your face, gets hot and you call the panic yet. I could feel that that that James Viral,
no little alien could put his finger on my heart, make. If you let me know, and a flower it's what was yours mine was. I was at a better robot. I had I done some supper. J D over the years, where he's been very kind and saw a thousand in Narrows office, was a decade to step by the office, will get universe of need, writes a red movies, all time
and they also oftentimes. If there's a free office, it better robot, I would go in right over there, no offices
both sides is what one of the assistants desks, because the system was gone and I was ever since
asking all these systems. There are very smart and lovely, and it's like a funny little play some. I'm writing and Stephen Spirit,
locked and have a meeting with Jane. I never met J J under met. Steven Spielberg forced him coming in was like I miss him,
Elvis feels like for someone who loves me. Oh my god of court. It was like ice
his face in my heart. My heart was, I got so nervous, be likened the word altar boy during a mass and then like Jesus
dinner's like I'm, going to wash up Jesus because getting my body later got your handwriting shit. Ok, I guess I don't know why. But these did you see Jesus
my god so he goes and have a meeting with jaded is years ago to an arm in arm on the desk and the desk. I happen to be
going on. I don't whose whose is it
most vehement behind there was all the bust of heads that, like you know they made for different movies, jerk bad robot, they're, all behind me and
I know that he's gonna so, like you know, J G of his kind of in front of me. So when they come back out, he would have the common out see his face and it would be, but ever and I'm writing a movie
like a movie for like parent or no universal or some is that got us rang a real movie. There's like doing the real thing so like. If you ask me what it was
Black Amr earlier, but I want to play. I wonder I wouldn't do say hello to him, but I get very nervous from people like really respect and I ve never the Baltic to someone that ain't. You know whenever you so J J comes out with him
I'm at the desk riding away and then judge goes out, nobody calls me Steve. Receiving areas seem no bed and you know just like, because I'm very close Virginia known for years,
and Siemens, like Otto, I don't think so Ben. How are you and I get up from my goodies like what's it like to beat that
God, David with all those bus. So he thinks I'm just one of the assistance there and I fucking just played along.
Within an act like our citizens and a good story I was like, and I like you know what it feels alone cover because they're looking at me all day. It makes me where the harder laughed a little bit me left.
German say: oh, he does you probably to be fair.
And the sort of like a hierarchy of creative people, J, J problem
still has a little bit of like look. I known friends Spielberg, but maybe we still have the run little bit irreverence because he could he not, I literally scientists, and that was it and then he left and theirs,
Rob Venuses thousand in turn and paid for years. But it will only like you you, instead of causing my head, it would have been way more awkward,
I don't work here. I'm writing a ordain instead out, just like you know, I just haven't you never go remember this. This is for me, that's the thing is it they don't remember. I can someone I've got introduced in
If it s now like two years later, and I felt and parties
like I've, heard he has a great memory for stuff, though
I can remember me is the do that touch, and then I thought no, he doesn't if he doesn't give a shit. You can forget about me the second he walks. Oh I'm like not on that guy's radar. I wanted the ray. I want to meet him when I'm doing a movie for that's like I want an Iranian like that's like a how whatever and then I'll never mention that I've ever met before the pets as I've got. You were an assistant had bad bad realised. What was re, that is to say good for you, man a good, but I believe that the positive storied- oh yes, but also like I just I literally yes, ended his idea. That's again, that's improv training in life.
You tell yourself when you obsess over things like if you have a bad show or if you have a bad interaction with someone that you respect you set a stupid thing or something didn't gotta. We wanted and then you're lying in bed at night, and then it's you know like the sort of
anxiety, vulture start to picking away maps of your brain and then do you have a thing that you like.
How do you talk yourself down instead of that I'll get cause you know like when you get into the spiral? It's just like all. There is our own worst versions of therapy that literally deals with that spiral, and that spiral is something that I've had my whole life. But at the beginning, when us
Team call hearts and we're were first starting felling. Everything was online line with every show so like because you just want to
so bad you want. You want somebody to care about what you're doing so. I really do
myself and I have bad improve, shows in it would rule out really affect me. I couldn't stop and it would take like sleeping or maybe
said I will go out afterwards. I can also people go drinking and I just be really upset.
Myself. Now I have learned to separate. It know that that's one show
so you and I have done so many that it's like it goes in a pile of you know thousands as both for the beginning of your career when it's like one of
DE shows. You ve ever done the greatest that they mean so much more. That means that one fifty at the boy shows where the worst shows them right. So it's like now unable tub with acting is sometimes with
Do not have a scene were
I wish I nailed it harder and that'll stick with me or if I haven't dish auditions, because you have one shot in the eye.
Bright, I will repay the audition in the elevator many times I will do an audition and if I didn't think that I did it great or if identical
out where wanted to when I'm in the elevator on the way back down. I
Do the scene again in my head, you why the fuck,
that way will that's that's. The thing is that Europe that that certain types of brain certain types of excessive brains will do the thing that I call Hake Fishing
great turn. You replay the fate, like you,
Now you go, I dont know that was it whatever
shower whenever the now determined meeting someone
there was no great and then your brains, just like scanning you go and you find a woman. Oh my god, and I said this thing:
garden, and they react in this word way because it yeah like
and then the door and then the other perchance, Z and then you're in this one hundred percent that almost like your boots in, but you have
also remember like it,
possible, not happened, yes, and if that is possible,
that did happen that it's like also what, but the truth of the matter is
most of the time and alarming, most of the time. It's not exactly what my agreement
personal stuff. What you just said is more the stuff that I really torment myself over. If it's like, not even like you'd letter
additional. Let's say your meeting somebody somewhere then, and something happens, and you like only got any than I did say this, or did they can offended by that I mean that way only are not, and then then that are real
stick with me at its it that way harder for me to get out of my head. Then, if I too bad jokes about about show its onstage people are bad shows our time. But if I said something like when I was joking
that person I know I'll, do the bit that everyone knows look a bit yeah text that person terms are and then someone will be like, but we don T, then you making the thing right now, but I ve been thinking about it.
They're, probably not thinking about us, the second.
Not in front of their highest anymore or thinking about it and the other thing. That's me,
comforting, is I've? Had people call me the next day after an interaction me like? I just have to say. I am so sorry that I said: do you know X Y receive ago, why I, you know
talking about, or God I'd, even I even think watch
oh yeah, and soda spiralling net it on the other side of it. I feel like. Oh, you know what it's not you know it
part of anybody feels that know that it's an actual part of this whole thing,
both Christian. I have another in real waste or if someone gets offended from something I'll do something that I dont even see. I was a girl. I didn't even see that someone could take it. Offensive is very, very
really happens, and then
someone will say like this bump me weird and I'll, be there
oh, I didn't even that wasn't even my intention in the scene, but I guess, if you're looking at it from that, we may be.
Right. Ok, I'm! I feel terrible operational learn that
there. Would you like to make sure to cover all my basic? I that's not what I was
they literally. What you're saying wasn't what I was doing, but I will learn from
I don't understand why that is somewhat get defended, I'll, try to learn from that, but there's some
things that we can't like there's a review where someone had like we did a show of
pregnancy and then there's review online. Where some
and said I hated the show because it was other they had a tree.
Pregnancy and all we can
You know I mean like we didn't get. There was a problem with the brain, someone just pregnant onstage right, what we're paying a pint of character. That person had personal experience that they had a problem with their pregnancy, so they couldn't
to show that I was pregnant as we can't handle that, because that will take every then do you take off everything can,
the table right, you don't I mean well it it also like or,
you know how I was doing an italian acts and at the beginning of the push. Yes, you be fair. My guy grandparents emigrated from ITALY right
the lady failure cooking a pizza right now it is a delicious,
and my great grandmother, my grandparents. They talk a negative.
Like they ve talked like they sounded like Godfather character, right
We know what I was growing up. I was fortunate enough that they were alive for the first cash. You know tenor
of years of my life yeah, that's so, but the great grandparents re grandparents are very lucky I Maria and and fun so how old, where they went to pass away. They were
Nine and ninety six had been together for like sue. You have indeed
They just met near the end. They were on the tender belgian Louise it at
they are there together for like seventy two years, some believe so it. But it is.
Also, especially in those situations where you're like beating yourself up Aventine
You can, if you can, first of all say like
what happened? How it happened, you know, learning life is k that,
of everything which very kind of stoic thing. Good things happen, we know perceived bad things happen and we just, but if you can,
and from them and go ok, learn academic, huge thing I'll, just anything, also watching how people react to things in the real world and learning from that k that you know to try and be aware of of things, I think
well, I think, a lot of it is also you have to be not about
offending people. We really really having him much prominent role, but about the stuff that you're talking to that spiralling about personal stuff. I say just meets him:
He and you I gotta, see something weird. Is a person denied that European? It is a bitter practice to let it go, because if not, you can torment yourself. I remember a therapist once said that, like it's like a thing can happen right.
The suffering that you put yourself through. That's on you, you're making yourself suffer yes, yet I am not sure, like I'm, not happy with a role that I guess I've five years ago, I wish I was doing something more. I wish I played the character different whatever I'm DR myself, crazy about it. That's me, I'm
That's my son that nobody else you nobody else is doing there to yourself and also like I but a, but I
I tend to like not like. If I may
meet some on and we try and we trade numbers and more are starting to become friends. I tend to not like text jokes at them like, like it doing bits, because there's like y know what others let them do it first and
sort of inform like where would have had to do the same thing. You has never get to be funny with each other than within to each other religious network, very serious, not funny people and that's just how it is crazy, but but but also it.
Sort of accepting that you know it's like it's all
I'll, it doesn't have to be one flavour. All the time like you don't have to kill all the time and also your value as
human being is and whether or not you kill in I like you're, not you're, not your career but a but but be.
Able to it down
The kind of unfair thing about comedians, though, with our brains, is that a good guy
meetings are by nature, very detail, oriented and, if you're, a good improvised or what makes those.
Robs good is detail. Yes, so you are constantly you're a notice, sir and you're a deconstruct her and when you do
have something externally deconstruct, then that mechanism just turn spiky prepotent,
all that someone explain that with Robin Williams is so brilliant and so in order. So quick and everything is like you know, and imagine if that stuff it's gone
quick and his head was used for evil against himself. Just doesn't it hasn't shut off like yeah? That's it still euro music. While someone explain that once was the very very the people that are just functioning like high levels in another
brains, room so fast. Imagine if that is your being used against them,
So I ask: why would be a disease?
I mean it is basically it's like a digestive enzyme that without external foods,
its consuming itself creates no four, the protein so yeah it. It is a lot of like I think you know like just being cool with yourself
and then and was in. Sometimes we do. People do say dumb things in conversations or they do at Steven Spielberg to touch index of fingers, and you just have to laugh it and go. I was my fucking idiot, I don't know like, but we don't. We don't always do that.
The Vienna, the perfect thing in every cause. You know like weeds,
A lot of that comes from you know, like
my mother, the fault that I brought to that is in my head. I was like I really want Steven Spielberg to like me.
I really want to be like, of course, that is this your moment, two meters right or wrong with that, but it's it's it's a dangerous place to come from, because it's a desperate place to come from, as opposed to just like
we're going to say hi, I have no expectations, word, probably
I'm going to have an exchange where he invites me to come. You know I hang out with him.
I'm right. It's like, but also think about your want being like a really want him to like me, and that must be everybody. That's ever met.
Is. It must be, of course, it s just a normal dude, I'm sure he can't it's not his responsibility to like everyone. You know, that's, that's our responsible having to sort of bring a more realistic and and and and better
self esteem, plate to the table
yeah ok, nice- to meet you, you know like. I will take a quick picture thanks. You know, but sometimes
you can read if someone
It does bits with you like sometimes young people who do bits with you. Then then you know like ok can we do and then they go back out. Of course, I've had people come up to me. I've often times for now that when people find your comedian or maybe no- you ask meeting the trident, they try to be funny with you right and I've had to say
many times were like a guy will be, would like a guy will be, albeit with another friend or Galileo, his girlfriend us on that
and immediately start shitting on the other person like to try to make me laugh
as in their mind, it's accompanies a sword and not everyone. Should we if it was so, I mean many times it be so weird and lakes of people want to make an understanding idea, like maybe not
a comedian that I like that, I would not be like have formally be, if I may, that person left but built. Sometimes people try so hard work. Well,
What what are you doing? Let it be like
this. This is my girl, like a big this my girlfriend
media yeah she's, not the best kind of a better. What are you doing with that?
what are. You is wrong with you. I think I in those situations it, I think it sort of fun to sort of to try to defuse
I got your due in the old. Take my why please bit you know, we call it out I'll, be like you, my boy
take it down and audacity recognise everywhere, be inserted. A girl like you, could do better unsigned size order. I like to use this issue and how is your time to IRAN because I do like to meet people after shows, because I really I want them to have a. I want them to have a fund. I want the experience to be fun.
Will you also implant microchips and anybody that comes? You shows you can see that it is a little I take the handshaking than the microchip is just in this wetland. Yes, just wipes out from shaking your hand in this very smart, it's really a marketing is like a chip, everyone and then I kind of no longer they are you not. They do. I know in their shopping for an Amazon on credit. You know my change, your act per that I'm trying
the pioneer like Algorithmic comedy yeah. I remember seven, it away that's kind of what you guys do, onstage
Albert elegant, algorithmic days, cavity, where your basically like you're, you're you're, taking
something from the audience and in firing it back at them and then taking them down a path for taking the story and then to prove that it's all made up. We can. I, like Y know, do states, say middle, ditch and short middle. This distorts the Amazon com and a lot of like a lot of people are galling yeah, it's crazy. It's I'm over seven years ago after you did that thing where you had like thirty minutes, just a job reduce right. Yet this huge at the time are but he's gone,
mere shows a geometers, because I was kind of hoping that it was. It was dino to take branding
social media like just into lives yeah. You know, I did a lot a bit with my power. Shot varies yea, really smart yeah, but you also have to know when to not do it. You have Coronel, so I moved on now too. I don't know if it's too, I just do lotta yogurt bits, lady, like you, and your legitimately, Curtis Europe. It is Larry as well that Shit Yogurt be headquarters yogurt. That makes you shit. You gotta, that's a whole different horse. It's a beautiful, tell you before you know it yeah, you do your monthly show. Is it like a specific
Can the remote try to do it one night a month? We do two shows a night, that's Largo, but because it's a smaller venue that kind of talk, quick and then we do tours if you want Middleditch and Schwartz com
The year alone. This comes out for the rest year. We have probably like public.
More shows you guys are really kid you're playing big venues, very crazier selling them out. It's been very surreal, aided we, it has been very, very sorry. I think it's about to be our year
two year anniversary, Planing Carnegie Hall, which is a big Patsy, it's crazy, so it has been agreed
That literally, where do Largo and Thomas won the tour, and it wasn't something that I really want to do. Cuz I was like I got work then work to do and then he convinced me to tour and we toured small places and then bigger,
and now our doom bigger ones- and there was a question that beginning like well, there's gotta be a limit. You can go to big were to people on stage making.
Wrap up like in a smart. Would you small scenes? You don't mean and we're trying to push it forget. Where were it fits where it works? And it's been really lovely to see? People react to. It
the cool thing, bringing long form improv to a city. It does
a ton of it and see me
reacting Blackwell, that's crazy, that that is awesome. Then there is also the idea of touring is draining
going on planes all day you're, you know your shows are exhausting. Do you do more than one and eight we did to last night? But if it's a bigger venue we can't time more than once, but if it is more smaller venue due to disregard of theatres, like three thousand etiquette, Rita thirty six hundred was insane. It is a crazy and I don't know people know like there are only a very small
and to give comedians who can sell above three thousand, I mean it's like it's a ludicrous and for we are, and I'm very unlike well aware, work. We play this poor. Even the areas in saying always bananas, it is truly been
We usually when we start a bribe form for ninety people hundred people and we can sell out european so like that long from improv running out things are trying to chose could stand up. You could see people play
cellar, but then you could see Kevin hearts out of stating that exists, but for improv
you see people you see you should people the to pair the magna wherever you are moving moody and its at the commentator. It's a black box, theatre, second city,
improbable epic and it's usually about a hundred fifty.
Hundred twenty people, and that's it so now, with this special were showing you that you can. All
so plate in a theater, I forgot. The capacity was that we filmed and maybe eight hundred some of that, and so that exists that a video of that doesn't exist yet now we're showing people that hey it doesn't have to be in this. We we can do it here that anybody can do here too. So I think that's gonna be a cool thing for procedures for stand up
Yes, you could see her play. Samson Improv, the there I think, there's been a couple special,
not a lot of stadium, improv groups all and I don't think stadium improv. Whatever I mean, maybe one day we had to do it or like you wouldn't want to do it, I think be top that greater city music hall to me would be like just because I'm from New York as a cow crazy.
If we play radio City Musical, which I think is six thousand somewhere- that that would be insane, but still these two theater and we like when we pick venues we like to go to places like plays and the like a theatre, threerd us feel like a cool place to be
But you know, I think there was a ask at did a special on Bravo, which is kind like a set with a couple. Maybe a hundred people watching the DJ and Dave there's a documentary where they at
Did you been performing and then I did a long form improv special for Showtime, but who is at the old uses? It usually Franklin which was like a hundred twenty people so now showing you can put it in a theater and it still translates year and I think that to be a cool thing if it works- and I hope people
dig it carefully? We we now I never talk about this stuff is usually sonic and suchlike that I mean
obviously Sonic is coming out soon yet
When is this, come out even give any idea who it'll it'll come up March? Eleventh, oh my god,
years from its ears and add rapidly so many podcast dear aunt in Milby here no time it's the most exciting about a pack has between now and March.
That hasn't come out, yeah we're we're pretty cool
we haven't, we don't have,
lot in the can at this point of actually over the house
today's like you, we sort of Guerrero, but I
I can't even remember whose what
oh yeah, I'm a kind of excited about that. There's a I watched it
money, and until me about this, documentary called the biggest little farm. Yeah, there's baisers about how this coupled to decide
MR started. Farmers, if we create a sustainable farming, just african jobs, he was like
so much for nature, documentaries and she was
food water and they recyclers just fuck and move from so they bought this like pilot dirt in more part, california- and they were
this guy and ate the document
is there seven year journey of turning into a sustainable farming because he was cinematography, like so beautiful eyes, then he shot end
is so moving, because there's some
good life stuff in it, because every time, every time
They, like you know like breakthrough
another barrier they get a whole host of new problems yeah and they fight against a problem they fight.
The problem may and then they realise that they have to insist that the successful thing for them to do is to
you're, on how to work with the problem. Instead of trying to fight on that
and so it just and they turn into this incredible
where is located what city more park, it's like an hour out of l, a great and ass ever I saw I'm actually really excited about that, because I just to watch people like the the
dedication and the craft and the passion, but then also just
there are so many lessons to extrapolate from look, we
but these ideas in our head like. If, then, if I achieve this, then I will be happy. It's like were constantly delaying happiness because we chase happiness like it's a drug and which is, I think, is completely incorrect way to perceive happiness is not like it
from Russia shouldn't be like an rush, there were chasing but anyway and you
ever foresee, like what one of the issues gonna be when I get to that place, and then you you get to them.
Is not only the problems, but it doesn't, it doesn't fulfil you in a sustainable way. The way you think it's going to
and so how do you sort of
with that, how do you handle obstacles, and how do you make them?
for you? How do you learn from things, and so I'm just so eager to learn about will allow us was different. I love that yeah. I mean it just it. It's like, like that.
Of interdisciplinary like lesson stuff yeah where's like well they're, not making comedy, but they
have created on or near they ve achieved a new
impossible feet with what they did live. Always I always think for us and I think same for standard with I'm I'm ignorant when it comes to stand appealing. Did it very few times
at the very beginning that, like I, was a second cycle,
the anthropology major, oh so yeah. I wasn't that into arts until may be the last year of college
ever and so that is great and also just living
doing things and learning about other things helps the idea of creating your own comedy and stuff. Like that, there's a note I got cause. I was
so obsessed with improbably beginning hours
wake up at six, a m, I would freelance jokes were Letterman's monologue. There was a page it Letterman, then, after that I go and become an inch
or a bartender you see be, then I gotta take a class and then I'd try to take them,
try to do last show which, like you know that beginners could do it. You severe it ever
data out, and I found at all.
Was comedy and there is a teaching them proceeded. Gases have taught us before was agreed. Coglan, professor and she's like, and I feel like I'm in a rut. I feel
seems like doing similar to teens and explain to my dick she's like well you're improvising off of improv off of shows. You seen
and that's it go out to go out, and so do you think you'll go do things and there was a huge one for me
of comedy and love, improve so much that it was all
to be around, I want to do and I forgot like live life, and then I have nothing to improvise a right off of. Would you want to be not as neurotic, but if it meant you also had to give up being as funny would
Would you trade in like? Would you
a more like I'm just sort of in general amino, don't have a lotta highs, don't have alot allows just kind of happy content.
But also maybe not as funny. I think I would not want to trade I'd. Luckily, as I've done older, Adam Trivial, assimilate, you're neuroses gonna go away a little bit right little bit right, you know, or you recognize them. You know how to deal with them right, erectness the anxieties coming into so I've been better at dealing with that, but I think that stuff in that that drive at the beginning, especially
just wanted to be able to make any money in this business. So I can keep doing it right care if I made money money. I just want to do this
I want to do this so bad at the beginning. I show it's like that. Dr has been very,
helpful and you work in a lot of different areas as actor as a writer in provider adviser in life performer yeah. Is there anything else you do I direct stuff, and then I produce have been executives sent a couple. Tv shows and movies in kind.
Little bit. Everything are published for books, Jesus yeah Sylvia, like you kind of how I mean I'm sure, that's up his fun but doesn't sort of feel like that
Contemporary performer has to do with combating things, did just system inmates interesting. I think it's like you follow what interesting, but it's like. Oh I had this idea. That would be good in this format
and so you see we can sell out. But I published books like one of the first thing that it was sell. This book call them grandma's dead, breaking
news a baby animals and its basically the queues pictures of animals and then a text blow at that says like its malignant, her dad, if never coming home, and it was before me,
we're thing yet like I saw Miss with me, my friend Amanda call. We saw Miss postcard books and ideas, rip out the post,
You send it to somebody to soften the news of the results of the blow. The ban to people use them for like for real or less so we found out later they did any would sold a lotta copies, and it was great that we so we told to more like that is so it was the big
I saw this app cuz. I want to do anything, but also you find something that like sparks interest like what would be the best version of this is the tv show. Is this the movie is that whatever, but directing I'm doing a little bit more directing and see? If that's something, but I think
For me, it of the biggest things always be acting writing and then opportunities that come up for directing and producing that.
Feel that coincide with. Maybe those other things that that makes me interested such
are things in the last one. We should talk a little bit about somebody. I pleaded. What's all this come out March, Sonic has come out and then standing upon now come out the blacklist
movie and in the next thing would be out of you know when it comes to horse, so be it.
The short specials and then I believe, space horse after that gathered, so
that's a very crazy year. I it's insane one. I can't you how
why did I am I like you're, someone that I want and you are winning but you're someone that I want to win yours so all the time, because you are one
people that I feel like makes
feel funnier when I'm around you ha has an incredible compliment. You you, you met such a nice. They desire you make people funnier around you because you're, a good you're, just a good like you're funny, but you're
we're good activated in your general love. I love when people hit Robbie like do that Italian bit me by industry events. You do that! May be so had made me so happy too, because its improv I get to be that its dominance fucking around in ITALY. I know that like created something together with an end, you have different chemistry with everyone's rights, one to collaborate, but why
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and then Sonic, oh, yes, we will talk about just anything. Is there anything you want, because it it here
and it will have already come out with you. This is exciting because nobody seen a movie yet, and I really like it a lot. I think it's really good. Also Jim carry is so fucking good in this movie and he like does it like. He like brings a performance like old school. Ninety, Jim carry and-
watching it for the first time I almost got emotional watching it, because I mean it's not my face but, like my voice happens and then
the guy that idolize growing up talks to it right
was, and also I dont have a ton of opportunities to be a lead, voices
Anything in ninety million are movies, so there is a feeling that you're watching this and like the effects, are fucking amazing.
And ass. I am a part of this. Like people like oftentimes, move,
I do it'll be like a mob dedicate. This can be two nights. It's gonna be a movie theater, this independent over you're gonna do that is determined, and if you want to see
I decided for like a half a second rate. Yeah. Do you see me? I was great. The hind ever disquiet China wink at you do. That was me. I thought you were having a stroke now I will buy captures having a strong. I didn't get that shit's up my performance of be walking through frame a little labour mom. But for me it's cool that, like better than owning a cell, is it dears? If Europe is item fears at this day, which is a very good feeling- and I think it's funny- they got to improvise a lot. I gotta, like our voice,
shit, both you and I love enemy voice over. So it's like. I ever had this path of voice over. There really worked hard, it's hard to break into the field, and then once you there try to establish itself enough, because I mean I've been around legends and I can't do anything like a bitter
like John Timisoara, like Bejean, Maurice than ours, Rapporteur Bradley Baker. Oh my god, there a site that can
is, I feel, like I'm, I'm good at voiceover within a range right but its, but there are like voices
are you gonna? Do that other, like the people like Chemical Richardson, who can like?
I do like seven voices talking to each other, I am in all. I can do a couple different voices. Unlike what happens you just play a very
myself, it's out of heightened or I find it, and then the funding is people on all, but I can allow these episodes. I've done up late. Ancillary voices were playing Armstrong, crazy, shit out yet, and nobody will ever know. That's me. A super funded do that, but these dudes
and women as well are able to fucking additive to watch them is like it's incredible,
or even talking about the Looney tunes man like other people, that just are able to do so many June for or like trends Macneil Jerry feels a main gray. Delilah did so Milhouse is my voice mail. So it's like even watching her as a key to say bends, not here right now, but you know, everything's gonna know how some of that did it and it's my favorite thing. It is my voice. Mail for the path
see, that's what I'm saying. Sometimes you ask people to do that and build there
would they was the only reason I said it is because I done a guest voice of assent to the very small on and she passed by after something goes. Oh my god, I'm
Parson Rectangle also, Europe goes. I said I was so nervous to talk to you. I wanted to come up to you and she goes. Why didn't you go because is it
possible because everyone, I got. Ok, I like ok and I know earlier ones
I'm sure I haven't say, beggar slavery, but it's like it. So when you call me it's literally
the house, it's beautiful as your voice, must have an amazing. No, no, no! No! No, my voice, males that you have reached it did this.
The voice, mail, that's on your phone yeah away.
Salami? How can you play your me to call you know my colleague at an early hour? You call him a speaker from archives bigger than near what my phone number is now, but just for anyone
meaning it is pretty crap
How long is one of these broadcasts you done about two hours
said that America is, that is that so you numbered yet had ok.
I'll hang up on you. Please do hope. It didn't change it.
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would love to know what it is that you do when you, you know,
as someone who is attentive to detail and can get neurotic about details were when you're writing and then you just feel empty or you can't crack a joke or you can't crack a thing running a script and anything weather
a bit scrapped whatever it. It has earned a couple things one are used to in writing. Scripts of so called five movies to studios now. But when I used to write scripts I would get to part of it and get so stock and yet so like pissing, I couldn't do it
Right, spend so much time on that part. Trying to make that part better or I
done recently or last character or less couple scripts. When I get to that part in all caps and bold something like you fucking
You can figure something I'm better here, move on. I don't think about this now. You think that a later and so anytime I pass it. It makes me upset that I'm done it, but it allows me to move on from that. Keep rang the script and no, I have to get back them on board
in your brain. Basically, I would say that it would become a roadblock that was so big. Now it becomes a little speed bump
and you push yourself to right when you feel like you- don't want to write, but also listen yourself. We like you're, trying to write for why you can't do it, take a fuckin break. Sometimes your brain needs to chill.
They're my friend had this great Jesse Stern had this great line once
you're in a culture, now that everything is ingested like you,
on your phone and you look at tweets years, looking tweets, and so he explained it as your your brain
visually shone like cogs, moon it moving one way right: this is you
ingesting ingesting guessing MRS uploading uploading uploading wherever and then, when it's time for you to create, you can't just stop that and start writing immediately. He goes. He goes
there's gonna be a second where you're looking at your screen just dislikes, it's the conscious slowly, stopping that way
and slowly turning the other way, and I thought that was set
smart way putting it because dont get disappointed, we're
jesting shit so much at such a volume that don't get upset,
looking at what website website. Then you like our tender right and it takes a fuckin couple minutes, because your body s agenda, mood than you'll, find that rhythm and annual your hit it off
I've learned that shutting off wifi is a huge help in writing, because I will check my
email every two minutes and I'm writing up. Stop my brain from thinking about deadlines. Give yourself deadlines epithet so, but I'll put some stuff in there that if one
roadblocks is something that I learned how to like move on from them, but also deadlines are big and liking. What you're writing if you're writing something?
you're like off this was like a job and not enjoying it. It becomes harder to get through a zero like all thought. This can be found,
You don't mean. Sometimes I feel like the doing stuff. You don't feel like doing is just good exercise yeah, because it isn t.
You that used sometimes
you work on stuff that you're likewise have to make this works. Well, so what you said, the beating you right two hours every day, Vienna. So when I was freelancing dose for Letterman, I headed by fax machine facts. Men. I wake up at six, a m and ever
they allow myself have forty five minutes to an hour and have to write fifteen jokes, no matter what
based on the news or were you realize I've been in the top ten list, tougher, genoa, just just a news, and I did it for we can update. Also so I'd read the articles of the day and I make fun of them and then think about how Letterman would make fun of them and then think about how he's paying writers I missed a freelance guy. So I gotta think this shit that those guys aren't thinking of thinking.
Really help my brain think of different ways of making jobs. You get a lot of stuff on, let him internet,
when jokes on, which is big for a little now. That's also, you can upload earlier to jokes on my entire two years freelancing and it was when a Tina had a
maybe so Horatio subduing Interracial said my jokes, that's great
whose goal is the jug? Yes, of course, what one
Was it was on the same? Show too, and I remember I we were of my sister.
Mary, this wonderful guy who live in Idaho, we're in a hotel in Idaho, and I was in a room, a Jay,
to my parents had a roman I was in from you know, like those terms at lacking, go backwards and so
most watching. As you know, I never had got a joke on sorting think
the news I get it on and Horatio says one of the jokes
and I got holy shit. What am I pay?
to mingle with what was all that I got. There is so much you're, gonna jump up and down, and I hit
trawler and shut off the tv, and so then I grab the controller, put it back on it, because the fuckin hotel menus, like you gotta, go, live tv and get up and it was like and by the second I got to the live tv. He was telling the end of my second that's great, but one of the jokes was
and study shows that recent charter?
Will they go? There's a lad and you saw his face this smirk, that he pulled it off and it was. You could not be that he took such a risky one and then the other was real fucked up. All many did above you know that that's what's interesting, though, is that the just the way that audience dynamics works,
so. It was a very like fucked up, Jonah and lit interracial literally deliver. That was, I am ass. You have less, you have cancer, then she came up and it's like, and the
you didn't know how to reactors are fucked up Joe and the audience the reactions of blue,
they got is alive and you saw his face this smirk that he pulled it off and it was you I could not believe tat. He took
too risky one and then the other was real fucked up. Also many did above. You know that.
That's. What's interesting, though, is that the just the way that audience dynamics works because they all feed
each other, and I feel like there's a couple of like activators, indifferent sections and if they did
they're all kind of like. Oh, do we,
agree I miss the other and sometimes a digital Kate allowed and that it took a second and then they they were, they were able to cressets, that's great Ben. I adore you and please just come back to my house and fraternity. I wait and widely yeah. I can wait. I mean I will talk about what's new house and on a reserve, the this, the I told you
and to this house this NGO.
Their Torah with the two houses most executive had never been a year, but it also says, but just seen pictures of the stuffy has. It is often house
some. I obviously love Disneyland like this.
Stuff, but also I love collecting cells which you have. I
there's that you have a Disneyland map, I've, Adducing Map and just the stuff that you have your house's like the memorabilia stuff.
It attends I've been diagrams, are very sorry. We, it was such a little nerd love fast. I love you share your he's wearing a vintage, haunted mansion sure. Right now and I have been to chop, it was so exciting for me and I wasn't too expensive either yeah, I'm I'm as soon as you leave, I'm gonna go. Google vintage haunted mansion assured, and I want to try to let you know existed because its Mickey going through the hunt dimension yeah, it's very proud of
Thank you very much for having me and what a fine time we,
talk very no, we don't, and so now we should do it on purpose, not doing a broadcast to freeway. Whenever you have time and also
encourage you gotta different Disneyland, because they are all
It's like stepping into a parallel dimension, because there are
they are all similar, but do as you have a favorite I have favorite.
Ments about it with Disneyland to me is always gonna, be my favorite, nothing against the other ones, but it's the one that waltz imagined and he has promised to me. They have the most in the most attention to detail as their Disney
all this great, but it also had of yours like how many people can we possibly crammed into these spaces? It's like it's much. Why and there's like four parts.
In pairs of drink, as it was just like seeing a different world like they ve translated rides differently?
I guess, or more yeah like they love roller coaster. Is there so their space mountain is more of a true.
The coastal, as opposed to like a Bob sled with I'll and is an
like two like send you backwards through. The dark is a thing that their rollercoaster liked to do there their space mountainous
You'll burn themed and inside a star wars theme. So it's like a with this weird mash up their attitude. We write a regional entity right which, as you know, the music for I was. I got to watch him, make that music for the ride, Cosette, Libretto, Tunisia, Katy Wanna, come see, and I love his music
but it is music to his own beliefs. It's incredible, so I got to watch his whole organs and, I think rise. The resistance has the basic principle of the radically right, which is this, that free roaming? Don't you dare voted for me? Have you done yet? No, I guess what do you mean? I'm guessing the reason you just don't arise. Re opened on the seventeenth of January: do you think that the resistance will rise or they might
or maybe they're gonna. Try and I've gotta try yeah. I bet there's some people that can stop it. They could, but in the end
feel like the rebels are going to trial, no spoiler, it's very
I would, by the way one good thing about. I have so much respect.
We think about rebels about what we think about star wars, movies about Aquino's, he's, obviously like
the most brilliant songwriters history of saw. Writing. But my favorite thing he's ever done.
The figure to lost because
Its literally one note, and he must have
so much money just to go like that's it,
and I have always adore that we're just like the letters are coming full at the screen and maybe
tried like a veto like a more intense where laws were last plane, crashed on the island what's with the polar bear or whatever, but
it just sort of landed on and he got paid like the fuckin rates would have rejected themes.
But I did too videos on Youtube because he Lovey just a key loves company step and one
was star wars? I think I'm gonna
Jaws were we went when he had one. That was when he was your national orchestra thing, but
If your online, I think, there's online rejected themes of music, you know he's the best, surely met him.
I don't think I've ever known as the best I now
brilliant. It's insane to me that such a kind cool do and then also happens to be an actual prodigy lackeys,
level. What does he want to? Nearly three people may universe that can do it to his
it's insane, yeah, yeah
reduce the theme of e t as a donor, Spielberg detergents being because he won't do it guy, but I believe in salary, Kittv Tower these words you go. You saw airlines as I get it. You know it's a sound like some sort of weird I ever gonna happen in goes on torture and speed,
bear. No, you really know what world order they wanted to go to boot using crash. Let you now they know that impression. I didn't need a grave or riff about Michael Mcdonald singing about don't try to touch you over its finger like Haiti. Was it? That's gotta be the topic one irish rollercoaster readers went backwards in the dark, have to enable those podcast, and I will show you the dark in the end. I intend incomplete
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