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vinegar threat in olive oil. Could you put that on two and like jazz? unlike his mom tried order like a peanut butter and Jelly Sandwich magazine, I would observe that till tat. Then he's equate what don't what don't they serve till tentative? maybe J. When there was like a long overdue that when they were ordering shuddered ass, I had to go there, but you went there very small done either. What do you want to go? There was a moment, though, like there was like this awkward, be like the kid in the mamore. Expecting the gotta go. Ok b where he Blake three times and a heart. Not look! That's what, when you know like its view, you hear people too. As I lay people again that day, that type of it, the wave your complaint

a label and we never really run into those people, but then, like I forget if I am like you're the Grove Shopping Centre or something like or as is always the kids that bug me the most that can be like a due to Bro, going like in doing the same thing with women. Actual look like there to be an adult yeah. I had to be a kid. Don't dress marks marks was closed and maybe then I got everything you gotta go the parents about the angelic that were at work. Is very early in the morning, because, let's, let's begin bye, bye, just type, is talking about met. My refer a second now. I think that here too we have to do that would have it turned out that mad actually was dead and we were like we he's just a ghost He thinks he's hologram, Myra, Oliver, Myra IRA Microgram, my ram microgram mammogram. You know it's a sixty many window after this

almost like, I am here and now, they're not gonna count as a download. Why we don t we do so You know I saw on your instagram feed, which of course is the best way to keep up with peace opium on a personal level nature, if that you had not one but two yeah anxiety incidents that you thought you were dying. That's right, I meant to text here. Helping your day where it also worry, sometimes that the tax will make me go like a sort of assignment this happened yeah sure Was it really waiting Texan yeah and what has

like tat I Sunday morning I was. I got up a through shower, got ready, packed up. My bags went outside the hotel. The carpets me up at nine to go to the studio to do after trick. I felt ok, we'll my bag out sat on the bench waiting for the car currency. The card is not there and finally realise that together the sleeping was my car. I had ass. I walked over and I you know just open when it might move when they're sleeping, which happened because I fly in again we're timed. Ours is just to open their truck separating my bag of when they come out I'll go. So one guy, I felt so bad work as you like super tired. I walked in, and I told the texted

are telling ordinary, like a guy, looks real tired of this work and tell you know now them into May I go to fire? They have that man a man without a job or wife. By the end of the day, we replace the driver with the peewee j. If you please, and so he can get us peanut butter, I did, he wrote. Quick aside. I did because he ordered a hot chocolate course like the like. I heard the guy inside I heard the guy it's after they walked away that guy. Like the brief, since I was like Have any Himalayan cease offer the hijacking exactly where we are exactly right when people talk about away like that? In a nutshell, yes, that's exactly the the general vibe. Yes, we countries that we are used to talk about those kids. Let me see the groping like. I want the Ipad

as the June over these gigabytes. So it's not working for guys aromatics. So you waiting those levels why don't you get in the car and then I am leg and coffee is and then were driving into very short drive to the studio, and I had I just started to like feel very tense and like what's wrong with me, as are very close to tied, to a need to like it weird. If I asked the driver to pull over and take my stuff and I'm just gonna walk the rest of the way and as like the other, be really we

we're just gonna, go and get out of the car, and you get to the elevator, and I can't like, and shallow breaths can't breathe, what's happening with happening yet to the floor. Go right into the bathroom, and I just like take off everything and, like start hanging on the stall like to stretch out and like Skype. Ok, my orders, so someone came in, they were just see: Nude Matt, Myra Sway Witness Amy like hanging officer, yes, but what What is your name what's up so, unlike all, this isn't workings prince what you're back on go into the office. Everybody's got into the production meeting and the table readers that nine fifteen Can I gotta get in there and I fifteen? We just sit down for a little bit and see. If I can. Than I couldn't really catch my breath, and I go as I power throbs power through a go in

and got into it table read and I you put your clothes I'm at this point. May I ask what your answer genes some nice boots search and I couldn't talk. I walked into the table. Rhythmic. Couldn't I couldn't speak like like reveal your throat whenever I just couldn't get enough breath to our words, and I you know my shower. Germany is like you what's guys uranos like now he's like, like ok he's like we're. Ok, Iraq will clear Room party feel you'd like like I breathe unit,

sick man get right that no doctor, we just had an engineer and Riker I mean it was a cobra lasted. So I just like I can't they didn't at a nose at me, and I look do I had my fifth it on. I was looking. We heard my heart recently. Ninety three sources like ok, it's only ninety three, so I'm not having a heart attack and on thing and the Germans gone for like a minute. He comes back and he's like the paramedics are coming is like you. Take it easy there come up and take a look like links is trying to catch my breath. I can't figure out what's happening. We really did feel like.

All of my organs were like collapsing in on themselves like it was insane of their felt anything like that and the efta, and why came there paramedics because they have the occasion so they came in Austria me up and lay took my blood pressure. Did you ask him any of em if they were first responders nets v, and so there like doing rather like iron you're, hot you're, UK jeez, ok, you're, yet its firing these higher they like you, you know just compounds breathe, take on they're asking me like what's going on. Why well is it what did what's happening as like? I'm just like us, like stress and by her mouth like starting to like be able talk a little bit like? Ok? What's your any medications as the game on five ants, which is still

as the gamma advance, which is a stimulant anyway, I'm like if they like, okay, so now caffeine, today, no sugar. Just I want you to like they like it. We want you to come back to the hospital with us and I like as like. Do I have to go back to your hearts? Philip? It's like you technically down eradicate Jeez, okay, so that's good! You not having a heart attack, but you know I like the Mercator flies like they're like when you fly tomorrow's, like no six That's like I'm also doing a show one who's like legged man. Thirty in the morning,

they like, while you have to like you, if you're gonna do not go to the hospital to sign these things like science, things are starting to starting to like get breath and the em they they go and Mccall, whose are talent coordinator town producer. She is she's a do, learn a yoga instructor also, so she comes in. She turns the lights off. She put her hand on my back, and this leads me there breathing exercises, which was amazing that serve. I started to feel like I, talk, and I was like a correct answers. They do this. I can stand up and then I gotta go out the paramedics you're talking to Jeremy, and I there at any minute now you can be sure that they were right next, he might like exe he's in the room right now wait a minute he can, where further behind

Oh no, I mean I am in ice. The paramedics were great and I was like there were like still s eyes like us like, so that's a lot of caffeine in a bunch of sugar, Marilyn Monroe, much caffeine in or you consuming depends of allies cut it since I started by Vance like Alive, cut it in more than half, because one when I first real when I was really first having the worst panic attacks of my life, I realized. Oh that's what a coincidence. It's happening right after I guzzle a coffee because a job like it just run it where they had resigned caffeine yet that day, but I know it well, capping intake is crazy, I think it's, I think. A lot of it is just a year. Your body is, your body, can only handle so much and your bodies is just like warning. You like fucked,

It is a will. There is only so much work in her mentally Morgan, and that is so then there, like Tory the observations like we have a doktor coming, do I doktor come after the show is like yes, please have a doctor come after the show they occurred in a word on that today. I'm like a feeling somewhat. Ok, I you know at this point it's like almost time to get dressed for the Sudan, gotta rehearsals I go, but the soon on go into do rehearsal journeys in my ear he's like the Cisco real quick through this, and I have to like you now. We need to do everything is ok but of a mess up prompter. A couple times like I think I don't know what I'd

they're here and then I go back out, and I asked the makeup layers like how long will the makeup tastes like fifteen minutes is like ok? What's the and I like? What's the latest, I can do make up the gimme, a timely, ok, gimme a half hour. I go into my. Does a very tiny dressing room attached to this day to the stage and I turned a light off closed the door pitch black and their no windows and I put on sea change and I sit Indians to tighten up the floor and just breathe while listening to back, and am I can't think I can manage to do this- show a guy get mega. Do the show the whole time doing the show it's like starting to come. It's like learning on basher

but like the great show, Anthony wrath and draw the franks relate fantastic guess, very little work you have to do, and people are like engaging in talking, and so that was great. There was like a zoo pressure has so their Lego came in the doctors, gonna come so the neurologist comes afterwards and he's like testing me he's like everything's. Ok firing lies like what are you he's like? Well, stress right, man yeah! I walk out early. What's your schedule like, like I run through the schedule, as we all her, unless our civil and he's like he's like. Yeah you're exhausted his leg is suffering from exhaustion is what is I? Can you leg shouted down for a few days?

like what are you talking about as well. My script is table reading for no words next week and I have to do that and then a cheer its and he's like. Ok. Well, like you gonna, take it easy. I mean it's prescribing Clodagh pen like it does the opposite of vice like wait. What so? It's like violence, a lower your threatened the very least it is time for a panic attack as ok Excel. That's interesting he's, like any other guy. You psychotherapy again have a therapist nanosecond. Will then there's that time? Are you relax we're drifting off into a cop? Well, that was Tuesday

that made a real vat, was literally at the date made it real, wasn't really big, sharing it until the date now so. Needless to say, by the way, I have to say we so after the doktor comes back freaks and I are on similar flight, so he's like he's like we do as like it's like well, is that we should work to propagate right as like yeah the patriots were playing in a play of game is like there's like we're ready for he's like a patriots I live. I have two main now tried to convert like fifteen years ago. Who could time to convert? I was like all right, so it's just brakes and I just laughing and watching the football game raising. I may was alone, I knew you were you you didn't feel like you had died

point like I've died and watching football with Jonathan Phrase am I d, maybe we're all dead there ever have everything we made a lot more. I gotta get on a flight back to allay and normally on that flight, because it six b inflated usually gets me and there lay like ten thirty. I don't go to sleep because, unlike I'll never get to sleep when I get home, I like just gonna fuckin sleep, I need sleep so slept on the plane for, like four hours got home, saw Dorie leg. Let's just go to sleep we went. I slept till in our seven seven thirty in the morning and then I centres like ok well, hey worried at ten. I'm gonna go into works like a sure, like I M, going to work, and I sometimes whether it sucks to sit around cause there, That's when your brain really very are spending the distraction, nine can be good I went to. I went to work

But, unlike a little like a little still little days and a go stop at this. The gas station slashed. Eleven right by Sony on Overland and I go and buy a bunch of water. My hydrate today, Philip my car, get back and stuff and serpents my bags. We don't forget the waters of the water, a bag closed. The trunk get in the car drive your third way. One look in the review in my gun cap is open and I'm like to register I've away with the nozzle. The answer is yes, number ten? Yes, I drove away with a bugging mouser. Reverse said: I pick the vague upham looking at it like the valve. Like came off the ready for that to find that out of your arm, it does a form ride. The guide owners there comes out his leg. Editors are different as like.

Didn't, I gotta the thing, yeah pulled out the leg. There's a release this quickly. Now then, I think it's built for morons, like myself and as like. I don't worry, I'm not gonna go anywhere like like yours. Get the insurance involve? My wife is like it. I haven't the cars like I do, but it's my progressive we're now Geico the whole thing is like ok and am I send it was like. Listen, I'm not going anywhere. We really need to find me I'm right there, like literary pointing it. Somebody will bring us out of the way you driving away with gas thing in your car is technically a guy go commercial right waiting to happen. I better get back ass like me for his leg and they see super nice and like he's like a guy and and and the lady will take your information. I give her the things you she's like diary is the third time this week.

Sure. Let's have it all its Albert. I wasn't as crazy. I bet you also with like hybrids now. People are getting out of breath like there. They dont fill up all the time, rational, it's like without over there. So then yeah go to work, or do we get out a little bit

a little bit, I'm earlier sign and like all back, I have to drive capacity to go to apply. Checks should have added. I drive over like there's the whole time like debating. Do I go to another guy or feel greenish disco, and then I go. We do in episode about moon rigour and it's the fuckin blast in its leg, so fun and this Tuesday, unlike our focus to get up at eight thirty. I am appointment at the IVF clinic. I do that Tuesday. That's like the worst organ experience have had their gas, so I've heard they were fine without the now. I just have to say that the door of the room they had me in the door, and I was so close to the laboratory like

Kitty Corner to the lapse of people going in and out of that lab all the time and then just like hearing people talk about third degree burns likely and every time a door. Not unlike saying- and I mean that your likeness stealth jerking off your parents are a man of talking about third degree very resilient. He told them through the rebirth of an ivy. Clearly I don't know they were just like the sum it was, I think, was on a laptop stocking about them burning themselves. Obviously they tell them what degree, because their lab tax I bid. I thought that's what would get

he's trying to say. Is that? Does it burn victim guy thinks so this so then, Wednesday Dorian, I haven't ivy, F appointment and immediately there like digitize, with doctors like one undocumented hockey, is like a k like they like. They need your blood as like what ok and then I go into the back. The lab and, unlike taking my shirt off my button up, shirt, ok sagacity my blood dislike. Ok, what's your name, my name is now we're neither blood.

Go to the bathroom has like what do. I need a jerk s areas like those Didier example. My case, I love your sperms are dead. Well, follow up to that I go, then we see a doctor and our dockers like okay, so listen, you're report morphology is good, but your count is fifty fifty two thousand used to be a million. Oh yeah, it's fifty issues like it's fifty two thousand last time we did. This is three hundred and fifty thousand. I was like she's like you, take me at the outset. We gaps as leg question. Distress effect this ever she's, like as I welcome that explains that

and I was like so can we freeze duet schedule, employment, a freeze, my speech, because I will, theoretically the timing right now looks like I'll be out of town when we do the actual retrieval and she's like we can't year. If the sperm compromise at this point, we can't freezer, you have to be here for a fresh transfer, so there's this, like period of time, so like door is going in tomorrow, and I don't know what I will do if it happens to have to be on a Sunday because it would be probably next Sunday are the Sunday, after both of which will be in New York just during after tat just have a flashlight under the desk. While then, how do I get the contents of said flashlight back to eligible pneumatic tube system, so

That's average value added a better the whole other layer of stress so now waiting to see about that. How are you feeling today, ok, yeah, I just want to be clear. I did a format the chance to not be it. This plan calves. Would you know don't show up if it, because there are no longer in the mornings. You know like mornings, if I hereby well normally every morning about recounting my of my anxiety, I'm just concerned. You because every because answer, because I also had to learn that an Jonah also learned last year that that your body does have limits and when you are younger, you don't think about that as you like I've, infinite everything I can and that, but then it is, we there is a ceiling

and you just in your body, will start to warn you and it'll just shut down and you'll your manifest all these symptoms of all these things and be convinced that you have a hundred different things. But if you look up anxiety symptoms, it's like the great mass like masks as everything Ellison. If you feel like you're having a cardiac episode days, do call doctor, but in June,

all the stress, the stresses just it's really in Syria, so I mean the centrally the light at the end of the tunnel. For me as like, ok, we have DR three more three more episodes of after track to do. I think that time you guys here this will be one more episode, so will be through that I have weekends again and then the goal bergs we're doing form we are former episodes to make so will be of done. Marked second yeah. I was always able to defer the yeah. You know and then marched third you'll get a terrible called for sure. Like the momentum, just catches up and slams against yeah, like its literally niches, teaches you know just just to try to remember to take little book day trip last night does the world

In late March, good like do there hey, maybe you should see if you can get into this is never dream. Swedish Disneyworld favour dream suite at the Inn Cinderellas Castle agency. Maybe that's where you maybe you should civic opposing strings and get in there and maybe maybe no strength the more. Maybe that's where maybe that's. Where do I get? it just so happens to be the case. I don't want to get the programme because I know my mom statements. We beautiful she when the air of a million dreams? Can she did God? That's a bargain. Amazing friends, were this new world whenever they were doing a few years. As I just run up to you, I win her in her friends, got to stay in the center of the dream. Gasoline like spend the night like go Walker out during winter night, when no one's there as we are doing so

I have something I want to talk about now, which is which I'm knew how to talk about it, but it's just we I'm nervous about it. Can I just say it in the easiest way possible, nothing's changed. Actually like something bad parent, nothing's going to be different? We still love you. What are you doing now? Here's the deal guys alphabetically the show will pop up higher. In your less of. I know that. Well, ok, so this is some it's been brewing for awhile I've had to shift a lot of things around, but ultimately, starting in February. I think February. Six as a first show this one. That's not this one, This is getting ready for that. One out o farewell

farewell stop, it is reality, even afraid, we're having panic attacks. Changing the name of the show, I'm I'm I'm changing the name of the show. This show now, as these friends of mine were changing our figures, it is like the Seinfeld chronicles events yeah, so convinced is yet to come. The pig Iraq until you every

Yes, all the sort of explain, because the last thing I want anyone to think is that I'm trick has when Europe, when you really invest time and energy into something in there is a change I can. I know as a fan. It feels weird because number one you like things the way they are you like patterns, and you like that when there is a change like what the fuck wisest do, you know like I gotta I go to the same place for breakfast every day and if randomly there's ever a new person are like do need a menu item like regular, I'm regular where's the people in so I just I d first want to say nothing about. The show is changing the shows. Gonna stay the same. You guys are still invited a commodity hostels. Whenever you want

This house was now ok, whatever you need a really to more another weekly commitment where aid is coming out of the thorn in my region. I do the version of the park as that, would it be possible without thank you so much, and so I am not saying very clearly. I think your wife going you're soon by to sleep in the bed tonight. I thought that was just a given well, not really the reason. I'm saying that is so people know that you guys will, be a part of it by the literally it's this it's the same, that is to say the name, chime. I'm sure, I'm sure that people will still find a way to go. Look itself now, so here's the here's a long way short of it. You know in two thousand twelve, we sold nervous, the guy that I'd partnered with and I sold nervous to legendary, and so at that time I sort of had to make peace with like all right. This is not technically mine anymore, and then you know over the years just with my skin

everything in I've really become. It's like I'm at nervous. The company day to day going put that over their put up this deadline and giving you a picture of a spider man. It's whatever blame, but yet link amended, but so kind of in the same way that about two years ago I had had all the social handles for nervous and- and I guess I gave them to the company- and I had at heart, because I felt like I got to a certain point where my voice wasn't representative of the full scope of the company and the companies full voices work necessary representative of mine, and I also didn't wanna like say, stuff, retweet stuff or puts up that the euro. If I made some dumb joke and what people we met at the company, it's like this is me and that's them, but the cat

We really evolve to a place where I always wanted to be, which is its it evolved into its own thing. That was way bigger than me way bigger than I, and so so I started you know. Last year I started really having some very deeply reflective moments about our right. Were of almost eight years and the podcast, how do I still feel about doing the pike? S is something that I feel like I can contain. To grow what's happening. Things are getting so crazy busy that age. I really kind of had to take a look and this is something that I still want to do, and I thought you know I do still want to do this. As long as I feel like, I can continue to grow it cause. That's part of what excites me as being able to grow together, grounded that's it I'm grown american industrial- is a so so that

that's kind of where we were at so what was happening in parallel with this very long, boring story, but I ll just give you the broad strokes of it, but all the people that one when we came over the legendary, like all the executive that brought the company over there all gone, legendary, was bought by a much larger company. Wander group, yes and- and I haven't met any they want to people, I'm sure, I'm sure the very nice, but for a long time, legendary sort of had an interim an interim ceo, like not a permanent person running the company, so at the beginning of last year I kind of realise, like you know my situation with nervous. The company is that I am pleased to have an employment contract, like I'm sort of like running noticed, a kind of puts me and like a management level

manager, but even more like a consultant goes again about your MR manager. I MR manager, so they hadn't really had there been other, wasn't up like a person that was like a really fixed executive. Yet for several months and at the end of December, my contract with theirs was expiring and so time keep going like what we're. Not no one's really talk each of us, I'm not really hearing anything like well, someone's, probably get a command, but we just don't know yet, and so just gets closer and closer and closer than finally, in September October, I start to really have the realisation of like I don't know. If I'm gonna be work, their anymore after I really just don't know if I'm gonna be working there after the new year. What do I do? Well, I own the podcast. I know that the public has two hundred percent. I own it outright silent all the back episodes I own, I can you know I own it so the building I dont known as the name. I don't know man legendary on that

So I start digging array and going ok? Well, if I'm not gonna be employ, nervous anymore. You know. Where can I take the podcast? What could I do with it, because the other backstory is united? I've been happy to do this pod cast for so many years. For the first six, six is six and a half years the pod cast. I didn't get paid to do it, which I thought was totally fine with the first few years, actually paid a lot of money to make it then, and like the last year and a half I got a little bit of money. You know look, ok, we got a little bit of a town feels like ok, that's fine again, not doing not doing it for the money, but sort of realizing that all this might be coming to an end. I just got panicked. Like we'll. Let me just see if I really am going to continue to do this. I gotta see if anyone else wants to produce the shell like too, you know to do up too poor to pay for the production everything. So I kind of put the feelers out. I met with a couple of a couple of ad companies.

And the people made offers and- and I went with this company called cadence thirteen, because for a few reasons underlying yes, Furthermore, one there There really nice and they really were friends of the show and they understood the show. The biggest reason was that they have their parent company owns radio stations and ivory. I know it seems crazy to jump back with platforms, but I thought for the longest time I thought I would love to likes indicate the pod cast as a radio show, so you could still get the pod cast the way you get it, but in a handful of markets, it's just on like Sunday nights

that to me seems like a fun thing to do. I you know I kind of started working and radio. I really like radio and I still think podcast haven't really even come close to tipping in terms of, like being you know, being like huge widespread thing, I think there's plenty of room for podcast to grow and I think, when technology makes it as easy as just flicking on a radio station. I think that's when podcast will really really really. I really think most mainstream the most of their most the country still like. What do I have to do? I gotta download what and then I play at where God I don't know that it's like it's like two steps too many for for most people and so which seem surprising. But you know because the business world, of course everyone knows how to do it, but but

you will note so does seem to me to be a way to try to bring people over to digital by casino, like all the top rated podcast, serb and pr progress. It's like they have a solid radio presence and that salad audience from that solid radio presents, lays also edited and flash produce. But he's got to ask us, but it's also marketed like it's also marketed in the heart of the New York, in part of the euro and it was part of its really well done. So I really one of the opportunity to do that. Then, additionally, everything else it I've been building. You know, has been sort of focused on this idea. Ten t stuff.

The festival that we produce last year. There were gonna do again this year. There is a kind of up. I've always wanted to make toys and t shirts, and so that's gonna be a part of it too, and I really want to. I want call the podcast eighty twenty. I wanted to be a part of this new thing that I'm building and that's very exciting to me, and that is kind of a way to stay excited about. You know about doing the podcasting continuing to do it as some kind of growing this this new thing- and I know it's weird- and I know you know nurse podcast just has like a very nap. It just has a very nice flow to it, but I just I can't I've legally, I mean legally. I can call it that, but I have to pay legendary a lot of money if I too, and so it's not really way now much because maybe I'll do it. It would

You would not, if I told you how much you would have another panic attack just so, but the nervous votes have been super nice and aims at so anyway. Just can wrap up the nervous. The company story a few days before the end of my contract. The new ceo who did not did was that taking over until you are a first called and said: hey, ok, I'm starting genuine rivers. I really want to try to figure out. You know like I'd, let let's, let's talk about the future of nervous the company and I go well. I didn't know. What's going on so I have taken the podcast from the network that I created to another company and I'm sorry I just legitimately didn't know. If I was looking up a job, it goes no! No! No! You know, I still want you to be a part of this egos and that that's fine, that's fine that you did that. I totally understand no, no worries, but you know, let's

let's really after the new year, really start kind of figuring out like what what the nervous stuff is really are gonna, be so yes or that that's worth that I mean I'm, I'm technically still see you ignored, industries, although not really under contract, but just cause. I dont want to put them in a bad position, and I want to make sure that if I can do anything to help, whether that be a part of it or not the apartment anymore, I just kind of wanted. I just wanna do whatever whatever, yet so, but this item thing. I'm really excited about because it's it's kind of I gotta have that excitement that I had at the beginning of when I was building noticed an that's really. What everything is? That's why you should do stuff things are going to change. Things are going to evolve

you know it's not necessarily, and it's really more about the having stuff in the keeping stuff. Like noticed, that name was a period of time. The pod cast will still be the same in this sort of a new new. A new chapter people will not have to recent scribe. It's the same. Feed it'll be the same types of guests, but also thematic Lee. I feel like I've changed and I've evolves, and you know in the pot cast, doesn't really represent the full scope of nervous the company either and vice versa. So I'm proud of what noticed has become an I'm, also ready to whose him too, to it out to like name it. Somebody knows start this new thing, but you said something what we're talking about a fiery that made me laugh or yours, like you, went from an was once a nerd now in any area exactly I, but the reason I

like identity as a concept is because, as I'm getting older, I really feel like it's important to take responsibility for your shit and I think that's the core message of eighty ten t. It's like it means user error. It's like an I t code. That means user air sort, make fun of people who are the cause of their own problems, and that to me is a fascinating because that so encompasses where I met in my life with

Taking responsibility for shit and having to go hey, I'm wrong, or I made a mistake or yeah. I thought that upper hey. I did a good job there. You know that is that so much worse, nervous really represented where I was ten years ago when I created it now. This represents a kind of philosophically where I met with my life is like trying to you know trying to take responsibility for thing. So you know what I'd be really interested to find out from the audience is you know, just like little thick Katy asked me a couple days ago is behind you thought about that cause. Janet Barney. Does the now entering noticed outcome that our house and the now leaving and enjoy your burrito? I still feel like enjoy burritos good good way to sign off the podcast. If any one else wants to suggest something- or you know like a devout, don't panic, but that's kind of

That sort of that sort of that's it for hitchhikers Youth Ngos day as yet. So I don't know but but the whole thing is keep calm and do not cast. It does make sense because unite. I told you, the the burrito from enjoy every day, a close down, sir. I know about your about its only right to just you just what showed up there. One day, no slight boarded up right. I went before I was leaving the mistress, ass it or tourist idea, and I went down or lay let's go just have a day and then we went like us pull up and it was devastate, oh, my god boy was that ominous yeah a bad omen for the, but but I just don't jack in the box. It is honey right across the street. So I don't know I mean I I I m xx,

I did, but also scared and and and I just don't- I wouldn't want anyone who is invested so much time and energy in the podcast to feel like. While this pocket I'm done you know like. I don't want anyone grape in the tattoo. I don't know when to admit it doesn't mean that that's that stuff still exists. That period of time still exists. We are now Jefferson, starship, no we'd be just starship, not know it when we still have an either we have another adoration Ariadne so that the next they replied, justice be starship. Yeah was a general, sergeant, Starship Jefferson Social Starship was we built this Eddie, ok, you're, so we we have our best single habits. Jefferson starship was so rise of censorship in aeroplanes. White ran on this that we really are gonna, improve We are

it even the hoopla as the starship, but I yeah I mean it's just I wish I could sort of scoop out of my soul and put into the just just mind meld with people, so they could see what I see that I want to build and am excited about, and all the reasons why this is happening and why this is necessary that don't have anything to do with Fucking anyone over or trying to be shitty or trying to be disrespectful to fans have in the past is legitimately the most significant work thing. I think I've ever done. I've experienced I've met more amazing people. I've gotten to spend some of the best moments with you guys. I got to talk to my dad in the most significant conversation before he died. You know we ve learned so much from so many great great people

what that to continue its just like the skin is just gonna change, but it also really does represent where a man of my life. So I really am sorry if, if this is upsetting news to anyone, but please just understand, that if you consider me like even a distant pow, that this is something that's good, that I'm that I'm excited about and then the money that is. You know that I am actually getting paid to do. The pod cast now will fund. You know the idea. Ten t stuff like us got the stuff that I want a bit less like it's gonna provide it's going to provide this need money for the thing you know like all this stuff is that I want to make you know of any of its gonna work. I mean, like. I probably will now set film thing with

last year- and I was like I want to call it spit ball and it turns out, like others, guys already called something spitballs from the time that I did the research to find out. If there was an existing spitballs too, when I announced it, they popped up, oh shoot, so I had lunch other than they were really nice guys, and I was like well here's what I'm trying to build an they go. Well, you don't making these really great children's books and aid already made em, and I said to them. You know what you you, it's yours, you gotta Square, I'm not gonna! You know like this is I think they they sprang up pretty quickly, but they were such nice guys, and I just felt like you know what this one's there's this one's there's. So maybe everything be called Idee ten t and that to me just seems like the cleanest, so that you're not in a situation like Wade, he's also working it. You know thing a but then thing what's thing seen out with me: it's easy you're, Shell, Corp, have you any idea. What does

put that in that offshore account Buckingham Palace was you know it's just ease. For me too, to picture everything and grow it as one organism. So yes, for the time being, I'm still you know I'm still technically the head of nervous to come Although really you know, I'm a cassette, I'm really I've just been kind of a consultant, therefore, while in the team over there is really great and Rachel who runs the website and all of the teams over there who have you no built out of and show by and Alisha Dan in Cairo, and Yes like MIKE Shaw, lagree com, it's just oh yeah. Brand content is just such a great wonderful group of people that our social that is really Michel Batman. That's really done what I always wanted to do, which was kind of its own, think them and they ve. All of you know they all get to kind of express what they want in and be Who they are and celebrate faint fan, culture and so yeah?

So that's that's so here we ve got some have to figure out and it's you know of submits an innocent man. Don't off it's gonna, be a perfect transition, but I'm, but just now oh, that I am always trying my best and I'm never trying to fuck anyone over like you, When I remember we started doing ads for the pod cas like sponsorships on the pod cast six or seven months in- and I said the same thing I was like not doing this to fuck with you. I will always be transparent about what's going on, I just it costs money to give a hey freest up. You know I don't want you to. I don't want you to have to pay for them.

Guess I want you to be able to just get it, so us will always be there and you know for the foreseeable for the foreseeable future. This is really. I fear that if, if it wasn't this, I'm not sure I was going to be able to continue to do the show you how to get excited about again will not only just get excited about it, but also just like how is it Gunnar evolve? Yet I just I just sort of felt like where it was and sort of the structure of of where it was. It was just gonna, come to stay the same level, and this to me, freshens at up makes it more exciting for me- and hopefully you

and allows it to grow. I'm so excited about the fact that there might be like pod CAS as a weekly syndicated show. So you know you'd here on a radio station on one day and then you'd get like the full and edited version the next day from being over free. The same way we ve been- and you know that's that's really- that that seems really fun and exciting to me, especially as this festival thing builds out, you know, there's just I have a lot of plans and are some stuff that I can't talk about that I'm excited about, but please just try and trust me for now. If you can and if you can't- and you really feel like you know what fuck you Chris Hardwicke, how dare you had we had an unspoken agreement. If you know, if you, if you want to unsubscribe and if you wanna tell me to fuck off forever, I just say you know I understand and that Thank you for what you're gonna do that come over to Jonah, radio or

it always agony and banned. I mean five cast them bad debts of road watch. Matt Myra is slow breakdown of illicit every week, but try a moment ago, the audience I now I know I should add, and I try to make my don't want them to be sad. I want them to be excited, are happy and I'm trying to bring up. I want to honour their a majority of the audience is gone. Scissahs, just changing the name, cool, That's honestly, or are you like? I always go, I'm such a caretaker. I will go to the most extreme. Like he kind is gonna, be ok, you know what it's gonna be ok please look like when they change the name to slime. And the real goes. I really It's happening, you original diverging interests, not eighty tentative admirer and the real nervously. Why

Spiritually bat is kind of a slip out of sheer negativity, general ripper, it is like face to the wall. Outta my I mean I've aids various sweep it quickly, our concern about AL. You, a lovely folks out there, but I think it's you're about to go to care. Less about, I think it's like honestly, I, but I feel, like I'm thinking like Genova saying it's. I think the majority of people. Veal is honestly, like you just changing, I know, but but I just I never want to take anyone's feelings for granted and I never want to just go like what this is. We're doing so fucking deal. You know like that, she's, not my personality and an age I want. I want everyone to know that I that I appreciate and support the opportunity

unable to do the shell for so long. This thing that I really just thought was always just fucker owned and you know once a week and as long as it's fun, who care languages Mugen do at its fine and end again becoming like this, such this significant. I can't imagine my life without having done the progress which is so weird to have gone to appoint last year I was like. Can I can I still do that? I mean I remember you know my buddy Rove Mcmanus, who did that really successful talk, show Australia for ten years and then just all the sudden. What you know just announced, like nothing, show me more fear like what an end. When I talk to you about it, when he did, the pod casts like maybe five years ago, he goes yeah. I just got to a point where I just didn't know what else to do with it. I just was at the end of like I didn't know, and I started to feel some of that last year and it was

Lee anxiety, provoking because I was like wait a minute, though this is the most significant. How could I have any, and I think it was just because I crave that kind of growth and that kind of evolution and how do I and I just felt like well where it is now and the way that its being presented now, because I dont fully that mine? I can only take it so far in this allow me to make it sort of the cornerstone of this other thing that I want that. I want to build- and you know I mean it's happening so close to my head- is that

buckle up, you're gonna hear lotta me. I didn't, I hope so I always say we should guys would come and will still call them. Hopefuls them, and it's not. You know, like that's, not gonna, that's not gonna change, but I just I love the. I guess it's because I was raised playing video games, but I just love the reward system of locality, less lucrative building of building stuff and see how you connect things likes, you, no sin city, it's like how do I build this here and build this here and then they grown, and how do I connect these and then how do I grano place and then I put in a space needle? You know we're not moving to Seattle by the way I know so, it's you know which Emily insult I being so worrying over explaining, because I'm just I guess I just don't I control, people, I don't want you to be mad. I want you to understand that I really am trying to do this new thing. That's very

special to me and I- and I hope you I hope you come along and I hope you understand can also sucker you're already subscribe to live What is right, and more or less work to just clicking, listen because it's already in your o lose this. Oh TIM Rehab, as this sounds like a good but so according to arrive and soon, but it would seem robins go up rather The first one of the identity and me saying this: we should call the tape heads when is work, good news, but listen, I'm excited democracy really build something here and admired shifting its evolution into another thing that your building yeah. I mean it just

I just have a lot of new ideas and a lot of new fund, weird things that I am honestly like a little there's a little bit of me inside that sad that I can't be around all the time to build it with you. When you put your you'll, be

not as much as you want to be around your valuable time. Amortize ought always to be ass. I sit out scenario is not a slight to you. Don't show if I want to know if I was that everybody gets, I wanted to be at I'd, be at ninety eight percent of well. You know we're within so in the way the two percent I wouldn't be utterly the cut in the way that I envisioned it is. Your nurse is very much like a digital content company, an editorial company. You know like that. I feel like that's the brand and very much about you, know that that that type of download heterosexual section of phantom and eighty ten t I really see, I got really excited with the festival last year, because I just I like people and I like doing stuff in person in obviously it's why'd. You stand up in this way the festival and that's why we have gets on all the time, and so I just thought I think I d ten t is more about like live events, and you know and expressing these all these different things that I've been to over

years in trying to find like the perfect balance of all those things into into one thing, and maybe we can grow it and you know like do an identity EAST Coast and a west go yes, we're like that. You packs innocent and hands, and then, on top of that you know I just I so many toys, my wife and I by so many toys in so many teachers, and so many things like I just want to make up that I would buy in a very curated way so that it doesn't, you know, just feel like like Amazon words like you can get. A million of everything else is just make limited right

of really fun things that are very special and in that moment, and then you know so it's yeah, that's really exciting to me. It's you know it's fun to make money doing stuff that you like, but but for me it really is about the game of it is like what can I try to do? What can I build? You know I'd help. I've told people for so many years. I go make your thing, go, make your thing and sometimes do you have to make a new thing, and this is my this is me seizing a new opportunity that making my new thing make stuff, not money ethics, but if you make money, that's fine too. Well! My theory behind is that the money it's like it's like makes like focus on making stuff, not money, so you're trying to make money. You don't really like this document, but if we focus on making the good stuff, the monies eventually will find it's almost a good. Enough make stuff, nobody makes to have no money. Is it? Is it just sounds Ezra? Suddenly I detention stand out, make stuff, not money. Five thousand wait, like my faith, is why

Thousands of particular enough doesn't like whatever five thousand. I would remind you that Andres, I dont know it wasn't even Andre, but of empowerment, yeah gets five hundred and twenty five thousand six minutes. I just I I m excited in and will win the day. There will be no ripple in the production scheduled ripple and at that time by Katy or food. That of course, Katie's Guyana. Higher data that guy's gaieties sliding along with Katie's covered over with me, Debbie the Booker's coming over and right. Choices are and how chef it's really manoeuvres of the money is going to write, hidden, show barrier that we asked them to do this, but ever hear him or tasted. I got to John,

for coming to any. If I'm building this is new podcast business, the rhetoric about oh by the way by rescue, still gonna, be around, even though it's called the paramount network. So around. I read into Taffir Word here: to him came a rarity him, but what a fucking great guy he's just so user guide, so much fun doing a pike ass if it were so nice about about back anytime, local players. You gotta that Europe's a can, I just send a list of gases, while I am on hiatus. Yes, anything that distracts you from thinking that your organs are imploding into time. Guys but knows, is very exciting. I look forward to this year's festival. Last year's festival was, quite frankly, as I've said to everybody who asked me about it: incredibly smoothly Rome, yet there it was last year, the day, this company, that I put the festival on

as she did an incredible job, and you know this next year it's gonna, be in November in an Orange county were putting it closer to the city was in. What I think I was. I thought it was early in the year. No, it's we regret. We were going to try to do it and met at the it in the fall of last year. We were trying to put it on in May and the tricky thing about the tricky that there's always there's you. A reason why things happen the way they happen, so we wanted to do it in May and when we went back to the venue, the Orange County programs, like ok, we'll take these may dates. They were like. Oh you, you had a

and John the date, so the way that these values in the dates work is that you say hey. I would like you know. I would like these. That would like these dates as if their open on the calendar you submit for those dates. And what can happen is someone already has a hold on that date, and so you can be in like first position as a chain. Go. Can challenge that date, which means the other person who, as a whole, has a limited amount of time. Determined. If they want that date or not, and so they have first right a refusal to go. No, we want it or no, we don't they surrender it than you get the data we didn't smash. We we have long fatty. We didn't know that someone else had first hole had told them the day we didn't get the date, but the Good NEWS about ass more lead time. It gives us where more or less time and and also in November, is a really great time a year. It's like the weather is nice. You know- and so so it's gonna be ok,

beginning November at the at the end of this year, so gives us plenty of time were starting to book bands. Now we're starting to get some vendors and It will be the same thing as last year, but just but quite honestly just easier for people to do panels and to do that, you know come like the those types of COMECON things to just drive from EL eight Orange county rather than flying to send us a mountain view. I drove it was great well worth than what you can to strive towards. Can that be weird under the vessels for people from outlay, and they just have to go to where it is? I just now I gotta participants. I mean Yeah yeah, I mean like directors, actors like today. I am like those of a guess because, wherever we put, it is for them because we got cause, we got a lot. We I think we really lucky with panels. Last year between you and and

harm in town and misery and corporate Landy an phalion into an intuitive, but I just feel like that is that was it's. It's really nerve. Racking said, if you like new fly up, you know which thing it was. Ok just drive come here a minute San heads. There thinking. Maybe I wanna travel for this festival. Guess what else is down there? Disneyland is very, very close and it'll just have been reduced. Later the hot imagine for Halloween. So you regret you get to see the Jack Skellington version of it. It's gonna, be a hoot, not scary farm won't be a scary shut that an early they do, oh yeah, they do. We not bury farm which is then not marry farm The aims of add not marry fuck ye. Ask us there's plenty of hotels and regret what does it not dairy farm? Where you go? That's in the spring of goods right after

not very far. We use our celebration of Larry David YAP that's very farm is itself Getting very now is celebrating drew blood. She was, but that's f, a e r. I e! U guys shepherd very low, that's another. Those two not very far celebrations Albania very far. I am vaguely interests there. Anyone go under their ride where you put on sunglasses no later than like, you know, it's a shitty dark red you just when you polemic glasses, you can see that there really knots rowdy Roddy lay great ok, early. There really for rifts.

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like commentaries couple weeks, I'm gonna be fine in a couple weeks I'll be able to sleep. I won't have you know that that is at least that that light at the end of the tunnel- and I can tell you this from that period where we were recording, like seven podcast, weaken those doing at midnight. And talking dead and noticed stuff in three things that the the way that I survive on. That was like some three weeks. I have last three days off just gonna our down for those three days really. It's it's in my sites be light at the end of the tunnel and Jonah how our you're you're good, yet good, restart Monday. We start writing the new season of Mr Science. They have God dammit. That's fantastic, now very, very much looking forward to has been chosen. Movin chosen there are there some good picks, and there are some interesting picks, and so I will start start. Writing that suffer very excited to gag aren't gave us it's like

once I found out the start date, a start feeling a little better it s just want to say nothing going on, and you know that you're just like some trying to sell start stuff and work on other things. That's nice, just gonna have like a thing: ok, that's there and then you can start building around it. Will you because it is what it does is that it cannot locks down that anxiety centre of your brain. It just like a big just knows that you're too kind of deferring the opposite that you're actually deferring the literal opposite thing of what man is deferring which is like, Ok, I'm Y know I'm gonna have that's. Why have all this very time right now, really crazy? How you guys you're situations are completely flipped, doubling and Anne, but what I think is so wonderful unfastening. Whether people who are listening is that it just shows that, like whatever is going on in your life. And you feel stressed about you're, not alone and that's very natural and ultimately, its origin,

Ok, that's gonna, be ok and a couple weeks, you're gonna be ok. So fine, you're, saying that I thought a good sign off as a hey, you're gonna be ok european as well as it will be what would have some more what what? What else did this with the kid orders or anything from the kids order? That could be like a sign up. Roasted tomato retard, sure they went. Thinks me from burrito to enjoy your arose tat. What have we signed with with soliciting Phoebean, Jays, Atherton, etc. We know what you know. What I mean we're pride keeps enjoy your burrito, but if we didn't say enjoy your burrito anymore, that would really kind of fit. The theme of like hey that burrito was and you're going to what happening now, we're going to start a new fair burden of already of changes. Often ready ginger enjoy the rights enjoyed.

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as it also later, and I, like you, a timeline them in many different IDA. The if you realize that a single camera programme and none other you. How do you do object? Emerson scene, we rented yeah, but I hope this is what the bug guys saga of and show your face to me Matthews back to me. As like Dory they ve got a vacuum. All that does get tickets, laundry bergs, gonna go and she's like you, guys have fought, here's the deal guys he's gotta new, album coming out this summer, their support, enjoy your ride home I play like be like if there was ever a time of again of eyes

I guess that would be the time so Debbie if your listening seems like a goal that his managers Coreham capture you I've I've met with its management team before they are really. I was. I was a few years ago, was trying to book. I tried to Book Dave Matthews once for your birthday. I remember that word out of spy because, like a really trying to do many things, I think it'll cheer bad, and then I went, I went with his management- have been amazing, like one of his managers and the guy was really nice and we had our and then it was just those things words like. I don't know why, but, but and then also like. Sometimes you can have a lot of meetings and then nothing comes of it and it's not that he would do anything wrong or anyone's it. Just like interesting work out, you know like that they didn't line up But maybe now maybe maybe you know- that's Sumter not for me to really hope and pray for the Lord Jesus and your way

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this growth role and then I see a sort of Webster with the four tops on it and unlike what is this and it's the whole episode and it's so fucking insane what counted as television back then like the plot is bananas? like it's, that the the wife it is trying to lose her five to ten pounds of fat from from the winter and the husband has bought her for tops tickets for the couple Saturday's from now so she's at the June, trying to work out takes Webster whither she's, like on the bike and then and then of course the four tops come in to the gym they're going to work out the being shown the Jim and then the Levi is like talking. Webster is like hey man. Why do we favorite sit on my feet, so I can do some sit ups and that's like how they me

so Webster sits on the feet of other means of raising the four tacitly myself well, but so, but so just by complete coincidence, yet mom our has tickets before taps into four types. Of course thing at this hotel there are staying me I thus Jim boy that sweating. Oh, my god, it's crazy because, like also like they throw this plot line in early in the show where an old woman comes by asking to sign a petition for them to get a elderly people's dance, that the mother would have the chaperone and oh good, to see story, and it happens to be I'm the knight of the

or tops concert afterwards and like there's a scene of her? Did this in twenty one minutes? Twenty four minutes that she's, like riding the bike and she's listening to her headphones? Listen before touch this thing before tops than before, Tut's I'll come over and you start singing at her, but she's got her headphones. I can't hear it it's insane of ours. The Webster saves the day by bringing before tops to the old people, dance of course. Of course, wrapped up it's fucking will isolate. I had never seen before a couple days ago, which was was it the porn version of the four times call for bottoms? I was thinking about that everything that was my friend we're out of work for bottom. Then I am its average. Has changed in fact, maybe getting worse. This is this is like year, one and two humor so I've never seen a prince on them up its tonight

with our mid nineties, Muppet showed they did and princess like its he's in a sketch he's like making jokes with above. I've never thought I'd, never seen him like playful and now, and then he goes off with a bunch of them up. Its anything's starve is uncovered maple syrup and its from sign of the times and and then he comes back because the hold the whole thing is that they cover to dig up because Prince Cosy. I could write a song about anything. Let go you great song about like food negroes, sure you know what what's what's for lunch and they go. Oh, it's starfish coffee may observe answer that because of this, and it comes back years, do good. That again goes sure, hey, what's fur, what what? What? What are you? Why don't you go in the kitchen and they go up raspberry sorbet and then he sings, raspberries, obey and sketch wasn't fuckin amazing, that's really great. It was really great so well, that's it

Tell the are pike. S name is changing. Pod cats astute self won't change same feed. You won't have to worry, subscribe, new name new logo, we're gonna figure out all the other stuff in the interim and- and I am still working at noticed- the company, even though the pod cast is moving kids thirteen, so we can try to put it on the radio. That's it does the headlines and a levy gets thanks for common thanks for coming, even though you need I knew was always on. The grass is very important that view shutting unified front bringing together, and I knew that and that's why I made the effort to get here and I thank you both for accommodate mouth gone. We gotta em on something funny. I wasn't it their enjoy your makes up not morning young somebody.

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