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comedy understands comedy. You know the mechanics of love to talk. Comedy he's been in the past terms, but more than a few I think going back to I don't know twenty twelve or thirteen. Maybe oh, that's right. I just remember the first time he was on was too. I think monsters university and I got to go to the Pixar Campus, which was one of the best things, I've ever get it's really cool, but but I've got to go out there and talked him. He was awesome, then he's Bynum just fantastic. Every time he was on the pod cast. I adore this man any has gorgeous. beautiful movie that just came out. It's in theatres actually now eventually to be swimming, but it's actually in theatres called here today with He stars in co, wrote in so directed its dromedary top to bottom. It's really funny in places and really heartfelt in sad in places, but

I want you to night and we loved the performances are great and it's him and Tiffany had issues brilliant and again beautiful movie highly. recommended out in theatres today and then coming soon and then also I found out in the podcast monsters at work. is a new monstrous thing. That's coming to Disney, plus, I believe, joy. Second, if the that is to be believed and and so new monsters, Billy, crystals movie and Billy. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much for coming back on. I just I just think you're the best and I greatly enjoyed this conversation on episode number eleven. Nineteen of the eighty twenty podcast, which starts right now. I can't even

While I do not like it works like a baseball had ever met. Good guess it's good to see you, who's. Your pal behind you, those are those Disneyland, my wife and I actually upstairs- We have a life size can sully, but she got from some entertainment auction really yes the fact wonder the plaster wonder whatever is the big worry like like

worrying bike is like much another like full size, I'll understand these standards from Athena lobby You know I had one for years we're doing this series a month as a work for picture which distorts till I second yet make yourself. It's really good and so on. I gave it to the people of Pixar so it's not a little Michael's ASCII recording studio, certain. That's really cool aspect yeah. I think these warranted toys door, something because air, like three dimensional like like they look like they were from the ride, maybe possibly in California venture which we just went back to for a preview Dave Disneyland and we did the monsters and cried, and it's a fantastic Tom could. Have you been honoured? Yes, several times I mean you're in its way. I'll be back. I know several times with my it's it's a wage. It's a word thing:

Here's my grandson the little whenever little discipline, in this sense, scary little green. I, your green one, eyed little did I knew about the series I didn't. I didn't hear that they were big. That is it like. I do like a full twenty up Oh it's ten twenty and we should we get ten, women and I great man indicating did Henry Winkler Bonnie Hunt, some other really wonderful people. It's it's done. The day after, The first movie ended. When our scarce the last floor, the longer the scare Floyd's left floor. and my can sell you in charge of the job. Harvesting laughs, all new young characters, a couple of, favorites junior was ass, he does there, there is really?

so well done and done We had a really good time doing so? That's it till I second so that we might imagine that bright Disney the only place. You got what an amazing I'm gonna just appeal to keep having this conversation, but I guess just because it such an unprecedented time, an entertainment just about now. Let's just the way that we get things that our entertainment, it's just been completely level, in terms of you know, everything is everything now and how do you can get things done? I'm ineffective. When doing this now you're finished the post after I had my cup of here today right here at home, with with the recording sessions and musicians and near that, I would be able to monitor whether Cameron listen to what had said to him and to go the score and rewrite music and solid collagen. action a little bit, Everything was done here because you couldn't you couldn't go out.

so we re married. Do you like you, do like having a place to go when separation and naturally I loved by lumping in the room I love being in the mixing bored, I love being able to say no birds there. I don't know now, did you more violin bar sixteen you any like being surrounded the people who do that right now? great mixers? The great collar corrected the working with dp saturation. I love all that stuff but the fact we can get it done was. There was a blessing. I mean it's not like that. Just the pursuit of poverty rate vulgarly comedians interesting, because I feel like so much of what we do very isolating like we're alone. Were writing we're doing our set world stage alone generally, but it, but love being around people like that need to sort of like the isolated at times, but then be around everyone. All their soldier is

yeah? You know that says. Is that word you liked about you about. I see, I see a bench words in your background there are various yeah yeah, it's one of my favorite people my favorite sums jerk little little beauty from last year, I watched my wife and I wasn't will be last night in it. I didn't really nobody.

so I do not have any preconceived, no idea what I was, what it was when I started watching it and I started I mean it's gonna be I'd, want to spoil too much talking about it, but a feeling you forget how to spoil a little bit just to talk about it because it really it hit on so many amazing existential, not just sort of human things, but also just the comics journey, to which now it's sort of it hit me in a lot of places. Either movies fantastic, your graded, it tippins amazing in it Likud's, but it is also- and it's funny but but utterly heart shattering at this in places at the same time. But yes, but because its honest and its real and and you know one We started writing woods. swell and I saw island so my closest and dearest transfer, while forty eight years now something

he's an original ass, an l writer. I was involved with a show from the beginning and hosting in a couple of times, I'm coming as a case member. We know that world you know so so when I saw him on Letterman telling story, which is the opening of the relationship between different his character and and Jolly burns. That happened to me That was a true story, any road and as a short story called the prize, which I don't know about the time but some telling a story about this auction present bids item. it's for low number twenty two dollars he's now: hating navvies at this lunch with somebody who low ball them, and then she has a reaction to the seafood salad. He has a cost, ten ambulance get into the hospital. She has no insurance. Others, charity luncheon costs in twenty three hundred dollars, I'm watching at home watching them and I started writing. I started going Alan. This is the beginning of something

what a great way for them to meet. Who are they where do they go from me? I've looked, let's start blended. If you're interested call me in the morning women. This is a great jumping off excellently point B C the next morning we called it and we started working and then and disk, who could they be and so on and so forth? And and once we suddenly got into bad idea. who are they on my both loved A senior rider s, another name heard sergeant in was in his fifties and nobody else was when the show started and he was really gonna responsible for weekend update lunch. The chase you're not General Franco was still dead, those yellow He was a real social lie. He data, Glories Steiner. He was charming. I and I thought well, did you know

greater if my character is taken out of a step further, who it happened to if you for show like us, and also we created this just then so that was that was good and in there I was in an impasse station in New York and I saw it Charming young sailor would like a gypsy jazz banned in the waiting room, participation by the train, noises and interruptions and in full it is great that I saw her again and so on a court springs tree and send the ban was great size of marble, what does she was the streets this band- and you know it, when someone so forth, an image sort of writing, and then I was dealing but the relative who had this a woman. Charlie, does and amend the movie, this onset of dementia and but you work through it and worked with it, and I took it

Therefore, and in that we said well, one free, What if we do that? What's more, you know it's so interesting, dramatic that I'm a writer Whose currency is his words is starting to go broke. What would that be like, and could we treated honestly be funny, but be real. At the same time, then we would might have something that would be. More than funny but heartfelt in an them and says something about empathy. Friendship ocean and really what love is right, and so there is tat. Growing and growing and then we're finished, and then we were We like this critical at whose who's this person and I saw Tiffany on personnel hosting personnel because

not seen girls true at the time and I won by now. Who is that I was at that aping I'm you were. I went to that while the gaping alive you, I was actually there watching it live and it was while she was incredible: yeah and she's she's, Sir of and so funny, and so electric she has a little bit of the magic the dead Eddie Murphy had this. At the same time, you know that that sort of thing, like you, don't see it very often and a great energy about around and also she so appealing. So we get the script and she arranged to meet with me and He came in from Africa. She got. The plain and came from after which she was actually spreading. Her late fathers ashes in Africa per his wishes and no make up nothing just exhausted, and

We just hit it off. Just she was how it for sure. You know that what you have to find cause? You know to find the heart of the person can rewrite for her, and can she get to the places that the script demanded because she had had a chance. Do that yeah That was why she loved me and wanted to do it because she wanted to stretching which he does and then I found out she was she just taken in her own grandmother who was, suffering from from the beginning of the match was taken care of suicide. I meant to be. It was meant to be so She was so willing to go I needed her to go an answer closer at her director that's the challenge of well, I dont really want

just Tiffany? I want Emma, I need Emma page, but I need at times you'll be free enough to sprinkle, you know and am in and get and we have that in the end, a couple what places, but beautiful performance, and I really love working, whether cause she's. You know she's like right, there. She listens grade. She's got great timing. and she's fearless then so is the character. Yes, she is, I am, I knew the show authorities have recalled at midnight was like a still coming into a kind of Galileo I was performing at the improper one day and I walked after my sad, I walked over to bid will annex room at the improv, and that was the first time I saw her and stage, and she was performing, for you know, was a small number of people, but she was

really. I mean, like murdering await it's really hard to do. It is, unlike in of in a room, it's a small room. It's not necessarily full, and I think that our book and I was like do you know Tiffany Haddish'S- I'm watching her kill right now, a Booker for the show. What I did know was it for career. Was our groceries and come out yet, but she was already on it shows he was starting to destroyed on our show, like right out of the gate, won the game, and I think I said to her that time of the next time she was on, I was like I'm really appreciated that you're coming on the show now, because you're gonna be too famous at some point. so I'm glad you're coming on now. Of course, girls came out and it was just like boom and then you know much deserved reared spoke about it. So it's a wonderful to watch, talented people, it's my favorite things about company is watching funny. People succeed watching funny. People show the world a fucking funny they

Watching people get it. I mean it's just if delights me to know end also Chris performance? It's more than funny. Is funny- and you know What was good about being opposite her could do it takes and while we still rolling I'll be able to say just look around the eyes, and I just say ass anything else. Just as you go, and then we will just keep going a kind of relationship also, which was some really because you know everything we have is is says together. Do you think I think a lot of I think a lot of nobody, people really amazing, dramatic actors, just because I do think, there's a self awareness and adapt and also comedy I was in bed of a defence mechanism. You know there's probably pain and suffering involved in

I do believe that there is a lot of death yeah. The craft ass asks for you to use yourself and mine joy in pain, Whatever the emotion is called for in the script and TIM You know. Sometimes you know standards. We knew you workin em and, like an m, It's almost like a little glass booth. What did had to walk around with what, when you're hunt stage? You know it is a useful confide in you, so used to you do it's when you free up and really trust yourself that you that you know become a standard that it becomes an art to an end. that's when its that's, what it's creamy, that's what it's really that's one the exciting

It takes a while we get it takes a while to develop the jobs to trust there. That's exactly but key as is letting go, because I think committee, like standards, can be still used to just controlling the entire environment. You know like controlling the room, everything the jokes all of it and then coming into a situation to just let go distrust that someone else's Gunnar deal with, all that we have the best advice ever got was when I first started out, and it was, the genius manager who I was fortunate to to be so and with his name, is Jack Rawlins JAM? wireless Charlie, Jaffee Buddy, or those with those who make my first managers and was a genius and an accent, a guy right going to his and fancied himself. Like an eccentric english professor book

college or something always- a bit of it God, just a little bit and a tonne of dandruff on his shoulders. I saw it on the agenda at wages. I didn't know what is scarcely an he play. You know he was a first managing Nicholson. May he was saying what he is it would just a joke writer, and then God, to perform onstage when he be throwing backstage at the bitter end someday you gonna direct movies, and he was that. The aim is that guy. So I had like what first came out as it is a stand up was like seventy four. Three and a half, and I was with him but a group that was signed to their office right for like the last three four months of of continued again and. We were three guys and was a funny. I call threes company and they were my college friends and we ve been together long time like four years and believe me. It's loan

the middle we just couldn't get there, but came up to me. The managers and said: listen, thought him thing a stand up in a working, loan, because we love the group, but it's not going anywhere, but if you wanted to deal work alone will be there for We have to work with you and I was like of course, of course, in a year and I felt like the last year in it- with him I was sort of hiding You know I knew and I needed to do this, but I was afraid I was afraid already was married. The baby So what was I going to do? You know me? I felt my clock was taking, it was twenty five, which was actually starting late in many ways. As far as I was concerned, and I I left the group and I put together really good twenty minutes, but it was.

there was impressions. It was only in Kosovo, though some other things, but finally comes to see me. About three four months. I killed. I just killed a great twenty minutes and I was like so you for that violence had seen me. Do this, so we're out this little restaurant after called them kitchen and of course I mean I'm unthinking he's gonna, say I'm not gonna handle worry anymore. Now that I've seen you, You know that I'm thinking well, and then he goes. How do you think it didn't tonight but I know this is not going go out on classic barriers question. How do you think you're doing I dont know Are you just just the stone which shows that what we want is largely in Gaza. I'm gonna be honest. I didn't care for up. Ok, Yes, I'm gripping my butter, nice,

it gives a sister go Norman Bates out, I'm right there. Any signatory, effective the audience laughed all the way through, but you know what you didn't want to say. I think You never said I feel you know what bothers me. You never said that you didn't know you weren't in your own act because an act, various sectors. But you know what You didn't leave a tip, oh and I want it. What do you mean tat, even a little extra something you leave the table that they remember by you. Didn't you don't leave a tip. And you're working to safe, you are young husband? Yes, yes, ok, right about that Europe the right young, no one else is a father. You bright red talk about that sort of major, unique

yourself in your own and be prepared to bar. I would rather you be prepared to bombed and works safe, Laura tomorrow, again, don't do any the stuff. We know it works pudding. I don't care for five minutes for minutes. Three minutes. Does they knew and then know how it'll grow it'll. Just it'll be like up a dry sponge and water. It a little it'll grow talk about your life yet leave a tip leave it. And it's the greatest it save ever was given any young comic. However, talks to me or was any kind of knowledge, I don't know, tell him that story, I've heard you mention, leave the Tipp before and probably like

at least ten years ago, and I ve never forgotten it and I still think about it. I still think about it when I'm writing, because it feels like that is, kind about who, I think for a lotta comedians. The sort of journey. Is you when you start off your half kind of the your idols, you know, and your half sort of saying you know what do people think is funny and then There's this journey, we're if you just kind of you run out of stuff in the external world, but then you start going exactly so. What do I think? What do I feel and then it's just like takes a long time, six to twelve years, usually before you're. Just like you are a fully formed identity of your own making on stage and your you share the view proper, probably and out the long time to discover that, but I never forgot leave attempt by all remember that yeah- that when it gets debts when it gets cream, he that's why I'm

It's really great, when you not nervous before you go out there, because you know you know you just what you got. talk about how you gonna wait. You feel it talking about and you dont give them what they are expecting you know not. Did you give him some? surprise them. You gonna surprise yourself you know that's why I think, like anonymously, for myself now imagine? This is standing up lay down movie, which I loved doing like some of my best wharf persons or my password, because The longer you led, the more you have to work with the more and more. This more knowledge is more trust. There's more, it becomes effortless to get to them. moment, even if their difficult procedure get to them, you ve experienced them before. So you know I've,

that's the exciting part abandoned and for this movie to which, as you know, it's a tough character to play. Then do it the way you know it's, it should be done. But you do finally honesty in it and you got for me: Wrap was writing. We create scared, so I did a lot of my back story because a minnow wrote it and so one yeah, but this destiny, that's the thing man, that's! The thing is is to find out. You know what kind of fishermen are you in an unhappy keep yourself in tune and what what's you know? What's what can you play on? You will use your talk about like the long live, the more experience you have

I mean I really see that in your performance in this move me because I didn't see Charlie Burns as eight as a character that Billy crystals playing it's like this is a guy like he? U, it didn't feel like I'm in your ear, your background, you do such an easy character work, but this didn't this and he was a character in a movie, but here in a character. He was a real action, fully formed guy who had an you, you really head on so many like as a before like existential human things, but also particularly the life of the you know. The overworked performer writer, whose chasing chasing chasing chasing chasing- and sing life and in the interim yeah you know. Maybe if it's maybe it's.

my age that I met now, but I really would love to explore this a little bit and just sort of get some advice on that. This idea of you know the balance of work. Obviously, work is fine. Work is important, but it feels like, as best we get older. The lesson constantly seems to be work is important, but it's not everything right or could it be for the things that are important and something that I do want to spoil happens in this movie. That is somewhat of the fall out of a mere voice were then even kind of like it wasn't. Even that you didn't even the thing I was doing, even really work. I was just you know in Russia. Where do you? What are your thoughts about the you know that that kind of, if you pursue excellence, other things are going suffer but then you're not gonna live a full life. I don't know what he would you next. You know. That's that's Thea the burden of anyone who, who Jesus

Artistic life there's a lot of sacrifice and has to be made, but one to make the work as good as you want to make it, and in too you know what and so the people around you and ensure the life rage. When I, really started, understand there was SAM around- what do they did it? I'm an amateur surrender. It is You know I've to two daughters, and I was mostly on the road this was before us and airline everything. So I was mostly the concert performer end and started it bigger venues and that kind of stuff in- and it was really is making money in, and it was yes, but I was on the road. A lot oh Jesus we'll get remarried fifty one years,

so we were kids. I was. I was seven. She was six Madam president, may I add a minute just it goes back that far We met in a room by the airport, they said you and your husband or wife, and went off. Ok, ok, I guess it's. Others were handed down and listen. The kids are missing. You I'm missing you, you don't wanna, be uncle daddy so you know me A little less. We say no money. Money with we're fine and I got and then Fortunately, at the time then and ass an AL happen and we all went to New York together, which was great, and when I came back than movie started to happen, running scared happen. So now my schedule was much more funding for our own lives. Even though I go out location

There are still young enough to come, but I wasn't gone. You know too much on Sunday a year ended, and that was the lesson to be uncle daddy yeah, but but I also know I looked back at so many the comedians. That's it we're so influential to me when I was growing up and I see them there, they relative consistency to and then at a certain point. They stop doing stiffened her down whether you know it's, U or Steve, buying our or Eddie Murphy or Robin or its just like there's a certain point where and I feel like I'm starting to understand now because at the time was like, why would you stop do and now I'm starting to go? Oh because it isn't it nor its? Not the performing. It's just all this stuff around it? It's all of the travel in the five shows that a couple days and do in the morning. Radio and you know hustling- do sell tickets, since you know like that,

down in the fight, is the thinking is the thinking of the way. Going. I did a clock, I gotta be as funny as I've ever been for an hour and a half or two hours what city MA am but it's also of looking. I need a new hunk. I needed a thing and you get that bottle. I talked about that, but you get him. Will you thinking about stuff yeah, I'm right but what can I do anything it just aegis just crushes, sometimes, unfortunately it I had other things that I'd I'd, love doing Jack and I was getting started. Become no more came up hearts and so on, and then and then, but I'll tell you now three years ago. I wanted on a thirty five city tour loved every second up and couldn't wait to get out there. I did a show.

was really stand up, but it was a talk, show a wonderful, wonderful funny person at a great interview, Bonnie Hunt, is finally go out with me in width. Basically, a conversation, four to two and a half hours- and I shall clip- and things are let, but it was basically like doing a great Letterman for two hours. You know, and I will stand up Anyone let you know led to may run back to the hotel down what I just said. You know what and that was that was it was like visiting an old friend, you know in them. So lose that you never easy it's always. There suggested it soon. Doormat. you know I always feel like I'm in one. Place and is the very few places, honestly in my life tat. I feel that constable right now, I

I feel comfortable still to this day fielding ground balls. damn taking very practice somewhere with a machine or with somebody throwing. I still love to play, one on nobody, basketball by myself and And I'd love being on stage still and so it just them. That's how I started out. You know I'm in them. You go back to it because it. It just lead to everything had down periods you can We go back to it, and then sell it so fresh and good again, instead of a bird you know in then the demonstrate which can go back to your. I got some say I guess so. the other day. I started making notes about what I went out what I would do you know there's no place to do it. Fortunately, but you know and then get left, a talk show.

With no audience with with any of the great torture houses, is fine? but Mr Mr Crowd, in the justice that the that sort of voluminous no, the widening roar of the immediate response which is coming back now I mean you know, I'm a book in shows from all and not good glory, but my friends are already on the road. Like you know the second, it seemed like things were lifted, they were just like, I'll, be in Ohio I'll be in Oregon, albeit like holy shit. I mean I'm excited to perform, but still it still needed yeah? No, no, no you! I know people on russian rushing, but you know too big get vaccinated and where mass continue in more than likely you're in great shape. Well, I'm I feel like we it that doubly feels like we ve turned a corner and definitely like you know, but by the fall it seems

that all these things all their mean, it might be a new normal this debate, but it definitely feels like ok. I think I think I'll feel ok going on the road asking people to come. Show up younger in a group. Was there when you are starting out. Was there like a particular comedy snobbery in terms of like will stand up? Is this or this? But it's not this. I mean I feel like a lot alot after the eighties comedy boom. Is I started in ninety in the nineties that there was a little will comedies, it's just a person telling jokes, but it's not this. That's too happy or thirst steer whenever and now a sort of feel like it's any That really kind of works. For the audience I mean is that just sort of a a young comedians snobbery about dictate like it's this or that who's to say? What's what's the way right in others,

There is none! That's why, five years ago. You know No if you said always, gotta wear white to play banjo whenever an arrow through his head, you go there but it was generally was turned comedy into arenas. You know he picked. in that was you know. Who were in an what Andy would do You know too dared it lifting a mighty mass and the earlier than to wrestle into all the other crazy things it Andy did. So this You know everyone's got their own, their own genius to them. If yeah, It is a fascinating. It's a fascinating art since the beginning of time, and you know from This probably cave paintings That, ever since you were about to my bed, you know, there's probably

some caveman, throwing a woman to a t rex and that's gonna, take my wife place problem. My buffalo, you know like somebody I'm trying to make fire probably we're just woke up. This is a real thing, but if you look up Pompey graffiti, they cover all this graffiti from pay. Vat is like it. I mean it's translated, obviously from Latin, but it's it's just like fuck, that's graffiti! to save those are the same kind of things: people right on bathroom walls. Now you know it's just the same areas misled All my man and Harry Sally I had lived, align the look yet the Sphinx ice anchors haven't less access. A comic strip about a character names, fancy at hand.

it's better than might be like that. It's like I mean it. You know this. Would you talk about like going back on stage and sort of feeling it again and then sort of being drawn back to that? Never goes away it. It made me think of Virgil Rivers. Who was really lucky to get to know in a few years before she passed away, I absolutely adored her and Joan with someone who would still be performing today, you nationally She were here and I always admired that about her and and and no books too, because it seems like what kept them going was a hunger in it. Reality and they always wanted to learn, they wanted to understand and they wanted to consistently create, but I hope they found peace to you know, because I wonder for myself: if what comes with that drive is just not ever being able to sit still, I mean just creating art, nonstop, even creating art.

That means that you never able to really just slow down and feel satisfied. We will I be able to be hungry and achieve, but simultaneously be peaceful as Amy. Possible. This has worked for me. You know why I found a great balance in my life because say I found it, balanced You know just again fifty one years, two kids forward. Children. That's you know, the other, Spain and France who come over go. How did you do this? How did you do this and I got to meet my wife meet me. So in a week we fell in love with eighteen. I was eighteen, seventy and, and that's been the end and the basis of it is as we if a large she's really funny and because I'm one of those guys I'm really and where those guy I'm a generous laffer but alone

those at sometimes at the same time. Eleven funny, you know by that's been that's been a thing that, that is most important is And had been able to balance this and and and enjoy an all of all of my work and in all of my life yeah- and do you want they gotta be separate, though it they can blur the lives, and I have at times what causes so elusive, Christa, so elusive, you know success That satisfying right you know that means committee. I mean look at some. Seventy three and nine, and I cover accident I directed in this movie and I'm nervous like crazy, because its opening Friday and end

and I always feel always no matter what success or failure that I always had to. I was her prove myself again either to public order myself, that I could still do it now and then doing better than I ever have and in that with such a thrill about having a movie opened. His people are really gonna liking. The movie and and moved by it and they laughed at night and You know I was the eldest nine assent, but I was the youngest one. At the same time, I am energy than anybody, because I had to You know. That's that's the thrill of it. Still after all these years, had nothing How do you know how to put it about nazi We totally, I think, does it. there's a danger about C.

Totally safe that united there's something about it, that you have to always gotta figure away out of something that that kid gets exciting, so it's either. writing something else, directing the scene differently, Otherwise, how do I tell anyone I need here to my in writing it is always a challenge, and I think that- That's that's pretty cool. You know already writing something else in them and looking forward to get MECCA. You know I mean, but also to directs yourself in scenes that are really I mean. Is there a separate? Is our separate person that Europe will to sort of bouts of when you're giving a performance? Are you able to have the separation to see yourself, I'm the director and now, but I'm watching this up with the actor, and I think I need to do this or that a bit or someone

oh you know between this, encourages it all just you like watching back, that's a good question for actually I you know I had alan- was there so I've always Erin. I wouldn't tumblr just look off NGO? I know what I needed and I knew what I felt was right in the new that Charlie. Raw go to a place, that was for me wrong end. And when he gets you know, cannon NEWS that he doesn't want in Aceh with her any explodes at her, That was it. There was one of those days, and I and I haven't had a really explained the Tiffany when she a very emotional new momentum. Later. is SAM. You have to stay in the pain

you have to stay in the moment. You just can't turn it on and off, So if you don't really good take, don't want you phone, I dont go down to the sea in the thought stay in its uncomfortable, but you feel it'll be true, because the fresh anything about movies and the exhilarating thing about what is is there forever whatever moment it is, movies are collection a moment. So if you make right moment? Is its name forever end surprise a reality. He just left terrified, he's emotional and, as part of the the EU must. Study has strikes out at people on occasion, but but you know that's benches this is part of it. So I had a really trust myself and in an there were many times then, when I finished scene or take, I didn't the more I didn't look at the play back because it felt good right

and then I would look at the dp, you know, do we gotta do with workers and abolish shouts with him. And your name is familiar as if I'm good anyone just go like this. I know that I had it so yeah It, sir, it's a complicated job to do everything but for this one I saw I had to I really I I didn't want anyone else to do it, but I think the probably the most challenging thing to get around directing yourself be like which part of your ego to put to sleep like if you're watching yourself as an actor one, you're acting like MIKE, I look we're that's a strange angle. I don't like it up, you got. You know you can't you pulled up put that part to bed, so you can then see yourself. You know like which, which part of your ego or use, have repeated certain things are not going to get. There were times on a sad also

whenever the scene was when I was on me and I go quite capable at stunk anyway, they would last, and you know Anyone relax people rise to relax may sometimes in an I stepped back and go well What's missing at the top down and eighty talkative any in it, and then I didn't figure out, what was what was right to do and what was wrong to do. You know I felt like I was a cast member and a movie that I was directly of it's interesting when you think about it, but also you know you talking before about the AIDS exceptional thinking about like the twenty two dollars of it all yeah. They think that so representative of how difficult it is to know I mean everyone at the Corbett just wants to know my doing a good job.

Question, can be dangerous because you can your brain cancer feeding you bad answers, oh well year, twenty dollars means you're, not doing the job. You know it's like that. Can can control that or you know the idea that well you know again you you have to sort of release. Whatever you can release you can't control of something's gonna do well. You can't control if you're gonna work, you can control in that thing, but again, as comedian our job is to that. We depend on the reaction from the audience, so it's down to just go. Oh yeah, I just don't worry about the outcome, because their outcomes that are vital to what we do and so

in his career? You ve done literally the biggest things a person can do it's just sorting through that is its is, is Janice really the sort of key anchor that has kept you tethered to not spin off in weird directions, are place, value and weird places or feel bad about yourself, and you don't need to when you're too defined like what is success actually mean? Oh yeah yeah and my kids, and down, and and a lot of soul searching over the years and work, and I myself also to you too, you know- can grow muscle the end is not a kind he's not here life sometimes and is definitely not a kind business, sometimes because you people, you know like right now. You know why I put my heart

onto this space and and somebody truths, and somebody within them? he bore me right. I hate this thing. You know it's so, but so that we get you know I'm in a precarious for me now point and in them the fact that the We wake up together and- really that's really important thing and and so this, the balance for me always yeah. That's the anchor and also knowing There are strong enough to take that if there is bad and probably will be somewhere, yeah. And move forward unjust and keep the perspective. You know you gotta be a horse in front of the plaza used to call it.

Is it the Plaza hotel over all other central park? Horses would line up and ate all have the blindness and they couldn't see the traffic. They couldn't see anything else except where they the girl, so that's what I'm gonna be Decided two years ago I wanna be a horse in front of the plaza, which is a good book title good Book title the good special treatment you'd be built. The bet, if you did, I mean you can easily do in others. So if you felt like it, you know like its that's what I certainly were running about. You know what I mean when I you know when I finish with dead, my tool with body would get again. Thirty five cities Some one night is an jump. you know in a car or plan to get to the next day. It was so great and then I had so much stuff. We had mind together that I can now you know, do alone. And informed and act in a new news thing that way

so I look forward to that. I would like to do something like that and feel free. You know that you know. That's the thing about twenty two dollars. for the same thought and my wondering folks is the twenty two bucks. He says that so sad try, one also said, is Is that what I'm worse now Is that all this is that all. he wants this new and twenty two dollars? That's what it that's, what Charlie's going through it in their point of his career network. You know what really happened to Alan. That's why they broke his heart. You know. dementia orders, a salad that costs more than what you paid for the auction, but it. But it's such a great western in like how dangerous it is to place your own value in the things that you can't control you know, or or into things

metrics that wouldn't have meant anything to you before again his character. What you thought, I wonder, how much I would worth in an option, but then all of a sudden, it's a defining moment for him. You know- and so it's not being not just that not just those moments where you have the opportunity to feel bad about yourself, but I think, on the other side too, you know like when you have. The big wins. High only knew how do you process it and appreciate it? But not have it mean everything you know what I mean like: how do you knock it swept up in it, Yeah I mean drafted it that comes in. What we want is a person That's with working on yourself as a person not sazen as a performer, young and feeling covered the last time I was in front of people. It was interesting, I, like I, keeping and really good shape, and I dont really you know

do anything to access in a member. I was, I did a cold there the theatre when theater was where I made my network television debut, but how SL variety show the beetle. for their every stand by ever saw on Sunday night on itself. Was there and do something about the set up of debts that's an amazing place to performing and we the three segments and then we didn't. We through the commercial breaks and I started performing for the audience. I didn't tell him jokes and things stories and so on and so forth. so when I came off- and I felt like I just done forty five minutes of a really good show, and then Jason I went out and aid for panel option and

and had it and how to drink a man in a desert and then and then let them was that was to me was like I go, there's room now I can. I did my job. And was very satisfying. Now I can reward myself Bessie the thing you know you mean the tip of the iceberg, one for yourself to reign. Give yourself room to feel good about yourself. That's within limits. Will you don't blow it up? You know. Great. Does a great story joke about. To actors Oh, that's an actor and is I want to get a rice actor in summer stock and they gotta do it goes into the plan and they said well people in the audience. The council will show like they can't do the show twelve people so it goes to the bar.

Towards an abortion There's no shows a now. Only twenty five people show and you know I gotta just to feel a little bit, but it did but those, but those those metrics really do are difficult to not define, went when they really do depend on the success of what you do to do more and I heard you tell the story about the first and I ll show you were on and I tried to find it with that because you are on it Orson Welles on any figures me five, seventy four, seventy five and am- and I find it online. I'm always disappointed by the internet like internet come on. You got everything, but the one thing I can find, but the story you told about

the stage manager would say like stay where you are or go to the couch, meaning and every comedian knows. That means. Oh, if you go to the count, your anointed by Carson, and if you don't get that, how can you not be discussed? How can you and it could be for a variety of reasons? Maybe they didn't have time, or maybe you or whatever, but that defining moment a new got called over to the couch yeah ends. that was a life changing. I would imagine for a lot of reasons, Carlotta reasons yeah. I remember it vividly end Sitting next to Johnny some really lovely things when I finish my satisfied- and I saw the guy do that. shook his hand shook while his hands down, and he said, the very nice leading to commercial about always

to see young comma, come out Aaron and do something different and worked for. You will be right back in and Craig Tennis was the telecom, for that is did my standards by and he had told me don't look at Johnny, don't look at him and the commercial like a direct, overcoming the delicate area. nowhere in the commercial bracky. Won't it don't you don't like it, I got wells. Am I right in? and Johnny's drumming with it. Pencils and banned, is fantastic. Adam here. I am a spin look. At the set for years and are now I'm looking at him and he was like such a superstar. Me was that of God I mean and had he was had these chiseled features and and and he's driven away and it

looks over justice. Six second alone knows I'm staring at an early age, just one when I just one has gone up, anyway asked anyone, it should say it's gone, pretty good scorn. For now I was not like deduce. Do you like your food? What do you like? I don't know. I think that this was a very good idea. Even too are you and what trying to get you sign? I came at once. What are you there with there's like a fire? So I don't know what else could you you're back were ok yeah, I work of everyone and I was always too crazy. Was too crazy? Did you ever feel comfortable going back or did that imprint and you in a weirdo did you ever kind of all no very comfortable over to overtime, and then cool. Is thing happened. I got a call from him the morning after the Oscars. I guess it was

he ninety eight. to this day- is the highest raided asked times are titanic show and look was a particularly good shell, I have to say I was I was. I strong show in them nine o clock in the morning. gotten in IRAN for and couldn't sleep because it was so fuck unacceptable. Why? That's where I was married I'll fucking exciting, and that was one I let myself feel really good and the phone rings and it's my my assistant, causing Johnny Carson is on the phone. It's crop! It's someone! What now now I'm thinking it's Chris Guest, Marty Short, who could give do him? Moods, George him, it's him did you want to talk to you

but what do? I say I said from the fuck off is Boss Y know I'm kidding and now I'm sweating like like Album, Brooks work. Has no seminar will just take a deep breath and one allow any goes. You know here and on any went on and on in the best way could have been more. just gracious sand and thrilling to hear him praise what I had done the night before and and he said you know I just sitting there go on looking This guy, just one on another- and I said to my wife- is Anti Semitic- has wanted to call him and tell him you're. So so so I've Alex. I told him that any called how can one and we talk for about a half hour and it was it was really like I was exhausted from the Falco but of ice. Live off it. I still, I still feel it

what would one of your like so how's it going, I mean and slowly to call back and then and then sixty one they views on HBO, which has had its twentieth anniversary movie. I directed Roger Mass of a criminal. and was shown. The other night I said I watch it and seen in years and was throw that they wanted to honour it again and the morning after that they do because, and I picked up, and it was him I'm sending you something that I think you're gonna like it's gonna come today and when you gotta give me a call and here's. My number sort of only hung up. So let me my guy brings with it a dvd, from nineteen sixty two Johnny in full Yankee, uniform in Yankee Stadium, to make email.

for a statement for the tonight, you he's hilarious. Any he's even me. Another them The guy in the way they set up two shots when I was on film, was unfair way. So Would you see great? he's right. Your marriage, Mickey mantle else than Howard other Yankees, walk out of the dugout and then Johnny like, and a uniform, that Whistler didn't fit in any played is so well like little Jack penny said said, and he goes out any watch the wrong way to the mound and managers Ajamis there all right any watch out to them ass, any switching to mantle and it was a segment of the shown you wanted me to have it and it was like and end its? Is it sounding piece of India. I mean while that unity and connect with these?

guys who make you want to do what you end up doing. You know this, maybe a weird question and weird a weird keeping advice to ask for budget in general, but when Johnny Carson calls you when Johnny says: hey, ok, you you just hosted the biggest asters ever you kill. It's just this pinnacle like beyond your wireless imaginations of your young performer you're, probably doing way beyond what you what you thought you could have wanted to do to be happy and all of a sudden you and then Carson calls you the next day I mean. How are you supposed to feel like? What's the you process that and a healthy way. You know what I mean like D how do you? How do you? How do you mean begin to break that down is a lot of it done retrospectively. When you look back and a holy shit, I did tat happen. While it because I just told you when I still feel that way,

the time I didn't tell a lot of people. That is that this had happened. Because it was mine, yeah and end I didn't want anyone to feel like I was bragging in any way, with such a personal gifts that. You know I occasionally like this, that I bring it out and look at it again like well. That was something in them I was overwhelmed, I was overwhelmed, I have to say, and you know why I the fact that. It fell so good doing next that that tonight that was a really good one. The nine am I

some better than others, because they were better than somewhat better than those without one was a pretty a good one, the fact it He had done it five times and and sought me out as it is so with appreciation and there was nothing else to it. with SAM, listen it's coming, to shake my head sometimes like that was the opposite way. When I was a great moment but I see that in the end, I think I assume that that also probably because you recognise the humanity of that moment, it creates a level of empathy,

were. You are also generous to younger performers, because that is also like ass, a sub story in the movie yeah, the young writer, whose having a hard time- and it turns out he just fucking idolizes you. He knows every inch of your career and your character, just kind of taking the time to help him sort some sketches out and just talk to him and listen to him. It's like you, you it's just like the passing of the torch. Like you see that, and you know that, because you have given in this moment, he is probably some day when he is an incredibly successful perform a writer gonna. Give that moment to someone else to adjust this constant. Like you remember, this is a really nice, at any rate, the relay race and Anne, and in here today you know the Darrow character, helping me finish my life's work and you're, a beautiful momentous. He ended the movie, and he's their end.

the continuity that is, I think, an You know it's a beautiful thing, yeah and I think also it feels like, especially at this point, the more stayed up you do better than the problem. The main differences we get older is doing Santa because we love and we enjoyed not because we need it for some type of weird validation to exist right that its enjoyable has. Given you go on back on the road it's I'm sure it's some of its going to feel the same, but also I mean you're going to do. You know you're going to do well. If you know people are idiots like I supposed to be early days, were it's like man, I got a got a minute. I'm gonna win the crowd over, not that you, you know, like the crowd, still expects you to do well, but I mean it's probably just feels a lot sir. Now, oh yeah, I mean listen, you don't have to fight fire that that that can at first couple of minutes and then you know my name

the station beginning and local people in it and try to be as informers. I can and you the audience and their older than you. Then said sir, but is there a long time? You know them yeah so, sir? It Sir it's a fascinating it's a fascinating time now with Sir, what people need and in how can we get it to them, which is at a time it yeah yeah an end just like the sort of the need for silliness and the need for fond and the need for comedy, and you know like it, but I am stuck on this idea of leave a tip and I would love to if you in the process of leaving it to an end again, I dont want to overshadow the fact that this manager is me

seeing that he took the time to have the insight to tell you that, because a lot of your very lucky, because a lot of managers might just gone great, you know like? Are they just see? Dollar signs is kids killin, that's all that matters is killing and my soul of inhumanity. To say like yes, you can do that, but there is so much more for you, that's of so much more death, and you should explore that the very artistic to choose art, Commerce is incredibly insightful. Well, that's why Jack and Charlie and Anybody Maura, who became my day today. Guide for forty years and with to me the bat, because they they were really smart and and insightful and end their appreciation and understanding of the art of stand up and comedy or writing men and end You know the last time I saw Jack. He was a hundred years old, oh my god, and and he passed away all right

when the comedians came on, I saw the night before debut and dumb he was stone stilled with a little better cigar, still wooded dandruff on his shoulders, talking about what was funny in and how much I sent them the show, in advance. and he really really just really liked them and and he had managed. Let a man was executor produced. I let him in as he said, of hydrogen retirement. In carrying around with me I that such an important, important part of my understanding, me and understanding the art of performing writing and them. Responsibility and only to yourself, but to the audience the relate. That relationship

an extraordinary guy last question when you're, when you're forming of when you're forming something and go there's something here to something I don't know what it is yet, but I just feel like you just get that spider sense like this is something here and you think about you know. How do I make this me? How do I leave the tip water? A couple of questions that you ask yourself to sort of get through some of the barriers developing bits of your stock or you're, trying to figure out like how to leave a tip. If you feel, like my part, I let my wallet at home like what are the a couple of questions that you asked is this. What is the word that your question is this: why is it worth anything? What about how about you know? I am I I got to know Stephen King for a little bit. Cancer rock when they would rob, is doing misery and we talk doing a funny, upright

still hard film. If theory think there was something that we could do to get something like their end let me think about it, and then we were talking about writing and I was certain new and my writing career he talked about what he loved the most, and I think some of it might be in misery and tat in the book. He talked how about. That a writer loves how about and the how about you, you know for me. Now is like the issue as if that helps if there's a how about you go after it die right through the computer screen and you swim in it and if its, something great kid, go into the next in great. If not you just press daily or peons and save it at the piano, for maybe someone else, but you just keep Experimenting and end,

days you fine, you find your way. Greece is no does know ways app for right. it'll. Take you weren't I'll. Take you. You know And just trust it I finished riding something that had no idea where was gonna go. I just had an idea for beginning let me in two. a whole world. I had no idea that I was gonna end up. And it was exhilarating. No one will ever happened with it, but it's there is due to screenplay and I did it on a pandemic, and I just can't go on and I You know what those horrible days. Where are we like? You, don't take a while it's out? it's in the air. We do know that. But where is it virus. Why won't you they sometimes you gotta watch it. Hokkaido when you get em, you gotta get up They didn't all that fear locked in

Secondly, this room. I'm talkin to you, know firmby, you know fourteen months. The godsend was becoming in in writing that was it to me, there was sir, for myself. I was then Lenny to just sit and explore and play around. for an hour or two before I had a vacuum and do my ironing very good at by the rainbow got very good. Wasn't it's good to develop skills? dammit. You know what I mean what you never now you know about me. Now we ve become our own production. Crews are alighting crudely, with Euro make up, it was buying. You know, despite its gay man, I spent last night ironing flag sheets, the snow. Someone has No one else machines have you seen drank limits, said that thing and then untold rigour, sheets, they're, gonna, go platinum,

yeah. I do have to tell you as word leaving these these moments ever saw impact will to you. You gave me one of those moments and I think I told this to you the first time you're on the past, but it was probably almost ten The girls I'll just tell it again, but in eighteen, ninety eight or nine many. Maybe you are on a press. You wanna doing two or four analyze this, and I was asked to moderate. I am alive panel at you, see delay which they beam to a bunch of colleges where they would screen the movie and then

come out. Moderating was you and Deniro ahead to Herald ranges, and I was forced to moderate the you know like interview and moderate the cuban AY, and it was the first thing like that I had ever done and of course I was terrified, it's you and it's Harold Rhamnus, it's you know the econ and there I D Groundhog Day and see tv and so backstage. I didn't they to pull me back. I didn't see the second half of the move because we had to get ready for the panel and and I met hurled re missing. He was like, would you think of the movie and go away

Did you see the second half of it because oh he fucking explains like acts out the second half of the movie. To me like a kid, it was one of the most like. I couldn't contain what was happening pro like your call of Carson like how is this happening so we go. You are very nice. I don't think I met Deniro. We all get out on stage. I'm talking to you good report, talking Rameses great, I get to Deniro and he's just you know the sort of that classic like he's just shut down. That's just to just doesn't like to do that stuff. That's fine! I did not have the experience tat. I did not have the tool bag to navigate that situation and for some reason I just I guess to trying to be funny, because he wouldn't answer questions I just go what's up we'd cereal. Like I don't know what the fuck I was thinking. I just cut. It was kind of that's how you do and you know how to go in and is used reaction was just sort of like he didn't. We didn't didn't, wasn't interested in playing the yes and game and

and was just like. I don't I don't and think everything you go lucky charms like you, gotta jumped in front of them. The frame I talked about, you took the bullet everyone laughed, and that was the end of that was pretty much the aid of the panel and you could. You gave us our like black out curtain Ed and you were so nice to me afterwards. After what was such a devastate like, I was so devastated by how I fuck that up and I didn't and it really me a lesson of like empathy and listening and helping out when you can help out, and it was I just need. You know that that was so impact will to me, and I really have appreciated it, but I can stop Erica member, I do man you a jacket, Bob. Is there isn't it

there is, but the not everyone likes to do. Those things is nothing wrong with that. I now is a key factor in one of my closest friends and the sweetest sky, smart guy and but get away Do these junk. It's a bit too. We always insisted that we do this together horse because I do the you know, and it was recently led burns and Alan. I rejoined. and saying why, It was a weighty how's, your brother and she would for twenty minutes, and I would point to can't do it. I got your point. Why could just like it point will be banned, and that's that's what it was like when I enter yeah. I guess I just wanted to say things. I appreciate very much like that. Be ok. You know he did a great job like it was. It could be one of those moments where I was like.

One matter we're doing this and get you know like a bull. That was that, but anyway, I just want to say thanks and you ve always been so nice and generous, and I I just can't say how much I appreciate and movies just a beautiful gorgeous movie. You- and I know it comes out to May seventh to believe- is the same day. The pod gases posting that is the case. If the Africa, the EP, only he only here, as is only now twelve hundred years across the country, he had appertaining eastern zoo to stream it, and then you know my this important friend Bernstein tonight I don't, let's, I want people loved weakened to test screening that one great and people would you want him to do in a theater and he says I I that for this movie? I want that. Science and in some ways then and said we want this in, it would go Friday. May seventh. So Folks, if you feel healthy ins and in safe to go in

check it. You'll have a you'll have of its full movie experience. I think for fruit when he says it's what you wanted and if so, how do we use it as a great emotional core and its that's funny, and the performance is a great and its heart felt in it. Just it's just a nice journey. Beautifully directed and acted, and I really I'm so happy for you and for Tiffany in so congratulations and extra and by the way, then our she, oh- that you lead to new favoured cereal. Romania. Is there I don't know about this. Are you a call em if you want to hold on a broad popular- jobs, and I saw a lucky charm. Stoner everybody be like the barely one. If you let that you're gonna grumbling, on his car went home and just opened a cabinet like all these cartoon cereal or like his dry or like that or you are in the car, he's like Gimme the gas into question, and then the tricks it's like we'll know, you know like got the electors, anything

They want more work and for to this thanks again and congratulate than a movie We should always good talk, even do men care Andy incomplete, complete, enjoy your worried