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We wait a couple years just to make sure that it stuck around like guys to make sure it works out. You I gotta be autism. Unlike a late adapter, I like technology, anything The luddite are anything but I'm trepidation about all those kids now grown up the rejecting. Technology, my friends dating a young girl and she didn't want a cell phone but opted out two years for to get a pager one has to her. That's like she wants me, cardiologist like do that all school in the eighties rising with us doesn't innovation. Facebook is something that people got to discover and opt into right, but the next generations parents will be Facebook user So I think I have a lot of things my parents were into and they didn't seem cool. So it seems like there's a shelf life for a lot of these in my new book, opt out, Ology is ruining our culture and why you don't have to take partner or inherit the page that their parents created when their children were born or what your parents, Facebook page when they die, I'm probably just gonna

Julie, Burnet Life, my siblings and I are fighting over we're trying to figure out how to divide the likes. Export more stock, Farmville them make as they die help them. My men arm is impressive: Willoughby opposed tech generation. You there Actually more more people are reading books now than they have in the past few decades later They hide a really well that that is what has happened, all the knighthood invitations that that you would get in facebooks. Early days, like you, ve, been bitten by be bad than I know. You're gonna die, don't invite data would make me lay not get eaten I enjoyed it and there was all that's like now state with Myspace. I think it's the workers and their genetic necessarily going to stand the test of time. The joy so how's, your Myspace Facebook for life so much blinking going on I meet you did a really great myspace thing on the daily

That was the right down long term. You are looking to sell you just as millions. I remember the dilemma when I was doing the piece of his like well, I want to make fun of myspace by chemicals user. I'd. I'd want to be crossed and promote my myspace it's when you make a perfect balance. Ervic balance you can watch online is very early. Moot point number. Fifty fives. Weird, though, is that that's the fear of doing tat costa for stuff that's relevant in the now, because so digestible. Now you don't really worry about anymore. Rang like stuff to be able to unite around like a bit, at least because, like you to imagine doing a thing, you a bit about honey, Bubu Button in five years, you that route

remember the show she was out. Another show that she got her own show a way, I think, about Honey Bobo. I always strive for the most generic seemingly timeless stuff, which there is no such thing and try to three of the same phone can beat HA faintness now digital thing now I just have Moreover, I just have more of the red edges. Yeah I've read found case for anyone. The snake and renewing ass ever read found case, but you don't know that reviewing cases on Croatia, I just read- grab that you mean like Roby Way and ass far ass. I may I give a case for speedier reviewing cases, demeanor dude five out of five out of life on our planet and vice versa. For feeling it's not timeless. Why do I verses with illegal stuff? Why the v spur the ever real esper. As for court ratings by letter, that's what it has Kramer VIII Kramer, but did you meet you actually have a law degree? Don't you know I dropped out after two years you drop that allows go after two years and two of the three years

Baghdad. This report also did the there ain't, yeah ritual tolerably, went to law school then dropped out just end, then never ended up telling his mom been, who had it would have killed her while and he just never even had a whole one man show about keeping us eager from his hands and knees visiting her, and then things are grey. There's a firm, your honor. I order point of so you you went along. You went to law school in so where did where did comedy figure? Did you quit law school to do comedy, or did you quit law school because it was about a horrible and oppressive nigh quit law school to do comedy, but I haven't done it yet. By the time I quit, I hadn't done an open micro, tried it or anything, but I was in New York and it was near a couple comedy clubs and I was like becoming The kind of corn called funny guy in law school, which is equals annoying the average Austin. I getting our strategy better something, but I

evidence stand observing and united no, but I went to like two or three live comedy show and when I saw stand up a couple of times and I like the United States from TV, obviously unable I was a fan, in a family, but I liked joking around and so I started writing jokes billygoat. Can I do this so for a couple of months until leading up to the first humming onstage, when I was still mosque, I was writing some jobs. There are down. I did it. Pile of sworn affidavits here that claim that women go to the bathroom and grew ass. It is I who heal the night in question man, but I think there are. I think there are a couple of fields that, where you see some of the tool sets that happened in comedy which, as you know, to be able to look at a K then break it down and figure out like what the essential quality is to create, an argument and sell something to the hardest audience in the

Well, they jury. You know, I really feel like the guts of a comedy, are in there. I think so. I think the idea of like assumptions logic. Reasoning. Building argument. What was your major unreality people I measured in history, but I would have done philosophy if I'd taken philosophy course earlier later into collar, it took a couple. Of course, philosophy knows a guy like this, where those were like just short papers that you'd right and you know what I found funny. My philosophy was: if you go historically through it, it's ok. So this guy's, ok, here's his view of the world like this is his argument. Like he's busy saying I figured it out, so we're done as I really that what you think there's a you're wrong like this is the theory the world like Iphone an end so like what's a front about is a philosophy. Was my major and fun about philosophy? Is that if we look at these philosophers and you sort of look at them like scientists and away but they're, really it's they don't dealing in real science, rather just thinking

really hard here about things that people had which now we take them, like everyone fuckin put their opinion about. What's what Anita elected, but there was a time when people just sat around and tried to deconstruct everything we know, and they became famous for that totally in Meryton, it's such a confidence game. You know how many comics, if we are seen in some of them they just bulldoze an audience with car. It's like a confidence games. You just like leave. The shown you like, which is but I got an insane but where he was so confident like he saw me this snake oil is bullshit. On stage I mean it's just entertainment of philosophy doesn't seem that different than it, not that it's all butcher, but he has that confidence is such an important generator to the whole thing in science. Yes, I guess, but it does involve a size but there's a scientific method and decided to back it up with fat. Yes, it back it up, then, of you knows nothing. Wherewith, whip, philosophers! It's like water. There

No abstract reality really won't. Reality ceases to exist whenever you but you're whenever you're not observing it fuck and the related category of a girl imperative. Ok, one out of every word weight. So is there a world what I'm sleeping or is there not a world that I've? That's what I really want to know what those guys are just turning it lay in. They probably were pretty successful behind imagines. Luminary like while you're smart I would never thought about that. That's right, well, big to me. It necessarily one big me inviting you: how do we know that this concept of why it really is. The same kind doesn't exist so you're. If you're a virgin Now- and we have said, there's still a virgin there's the version, because you need time to protect your virginity to reality. So it doesn't really matter. Women seem to have gone scrutinise philosophy thing. I don't remember, study many female philosophers. Well, I just I dont think its culture and society really.

It took them seriously and rationally adds like totally marginal completely. I was an amazing philosophy, came out of the Ladys and it was just ten. Very, very well that's about the lady file areas. What came out of a lady as its Euro, latin or philosophy, has gone from Ladys the Ladys, a philosophy that is at issue my later near you? Why is it that all these were empty, there were bound in the bathroom troughs. At the same time, I read you a robber british lady. I don't know why couldn t be a proper british lady, just my seat to guess not. They the others that there's handle nobody like a higher just believe a little you to your visitors laying a great metaphor for the diminishing returns of like our technology, and that a chair during the share was pretty

figured out alongside us. I, like your legs, go about this long and will do this height and there's the back. He said, and if you're getting a you know somebody people use them, raise, don't try to reinvent the wheel that it makes me want to try to figure out how to reinvent the wheel strew, it sound like a challenge. You know what, if you you knock it I mean who does this, but if you have time later in your board, you should Google, I think it was undesigned boomed outcomes where the sites that I like took a design block. This guy did kind of reinvent the wheel in as much as the student, I think in Europe some design cod. He made a collapsible we'll had pictures of stuff awesome whose awesome pluralism. It was I can't visually describe it well enough, but it was like. Imagine. I too have a kind of two semicircles from what I remember with like a hinge on each the middle of each arc, each cord. Whatever it is you monsieur, she gonna pull it apart and then you can squash it down

you'll like just squashing a circle, but somehow, when he locks it altogether, it structurally sound and you can ride the bike. Would be freed up programmes like the army, I'm an Ex Dyson vacuum. I've always in practice the fuckin we'll fallen off. What I'm writing a bike that framework we'll just going down because too weird when those banks where you could just how the front we'll take it? Obviously I don't like that. I need to be able to fucking get like you know, just bolts and just make it so it doesn't visited every time. I open an alarm that in its hands design, that's happened, I mean just assuming you have bikes, assuming those wheels. Lots of people bid on an item on the internet attesting. Yes, statistically it has to lose. You could be one of those guys. It's very scary. Jonah just hits parked cars on his by did it once the air. Our anger, No, I was writing I come with Diana and I go faster than her and I turn my head and like a hurry up, slow bulk, and then I look forward and make us cut of too close to a card or really just two

away and then just when we are right and broke off the side humor I did that yeah I did at New York. I did at IDA scary stretch, you know when you have distanced from something you ve gone through You get it. You can define it a little bit better and understand something was going on. You don't know what was going on, but in a in a course of a week or ten days or something I had to really bad students will one really bad one than that, but the first one was ISIS. Gate all over Manhattan. You know like along Bore, but before that and all these different skateboards, but events they sat on the long born. I was hoping you met roller skates Getting accidents and even long border fora? No, but I had this between long boards. I bought this slalom board. Six shaped like a fish area right in the tail you care is no kicked out really, but their loose truck sea can really like lean quickly in pretty good dexterity interpretive s anyway. I lived in Brooklyn at the time.

I wish to state in demand Hatton kind of his work out in that way, but it was like the summer like our skate into the city, and I can state to my gigs and everything was again I'll. Make history quick. I was skating on the Brooklyn Bridge and part of it. Of course, a plank see not generate skateboard on their part, but when you come To the down part of the bridge will you're either coming into Brooklyn ornament hadn't, you know maybe not warrant battlements, paves anything. You can write a bike hindu whenever legacy right. If I can all think of her skateboard, it's great I gotta my skateboard coming into manhood and had walked it for part of the bridge and I remember for some regions wearing a bathing suit. Basically survey like a kind of lawyers bathing suits hot summer, but this is the evening an orange or his shirt, and so my t shirt is

the different time my life is. Thousands. Are you sure this is? U you remember that you see someone else, but I knew I had a taste J, coming out of my mouth hubris, I'm wearing flip flags on the new skateboard t, shirt is off and when prince's is going down the bridge and I'm picking up speed on the skateboard. Anyone whose riding a skateboard learned at some point that hills are really tricky. You need some space at the bottom of that Hell Unita a flat. You need to be able to distribute the speed near over time. Resistance and even going down the hill. When I write on steeper hills, you know you do turns s turns back and for it, if you don't get the wobbles, you get the wobbles, and that means danger. I mean you can't just What do they call at bombing a hill like when you have strayed down you, you better, have someplace to go and get it

so anyway, I'm going I'm going back and forth back and forth and I'm starting to get a little too fast, but I'm back and forth dragging my foot a little bit with the flip flop. Flip flops, not a good idea. Some kid comes by on a bike, so I have to wait for him to go by. So that's time that I'm going straight, but there were three kids on by now. I'm in trouble and something's happened here, I'm going too fast and I'm pass. This point of like putting my foot down I'm trying, but it's like hitting ground hard day, the speeds to greatness afoot flop and when a kind of fuck up my foot, so I dont know what to do the few times in my adult life, where I was completely suspended. My thinking- and I was just like I don't- I don't know no positive outcome as I was, it was so horrifying it and I was zooming pay.

Pedestrians you were coming up, cause, there's an up and down path. So I'm flying by people with probably the most frightened look on my face bathing suit heard at the right time. Failing this gives me killings, tethering, vast blackened behind seriously. Now you get to the bottom of the Brooklyn Bridge on Manhattan side and it goes into a crosswalk there's some bushes couple of benches like a little metal vance. If everybody knows is thank you know what I mean like, I think, there's no runaway skateboard ran up either. This is no has no way stationer douche bag and arrived. So I realize I have to get off the board. My best bet is to run it out, and I swear scary, someone's my life.

Because I'm a white middle class guy and I stepped off the board the fastest. I can and I've I've flipped and fell so hard. The board disappeared it was really scary and I had cuts all over my backs. I fell in a way that I didn't even further. Forward. The momentum so so great that actually flipped over the impact was all my shoulder and back in everything, and anyway, these ladys people, horrify horrified people saw me fall, was just like a bullet coming and this guy just full like wiping out on skis, but just in a bathing suit. I, but somebody brought me my born out of the bushes. They really my God, are you ok and my collarbone was really sore really lucky. It was really close. The bone was saying you know we we and as far as we could yeah you're, ok, but don't do that. As you know, I don't have it. We may help you out and I remember I had a double date with LEO and I don't know what I was thinking I was going to a double date.

The B t, shirt and flip labs with my eye was skateboarding too. Date that you really care about this girl. I observe that kind of blind day like he had was with the girl and she would bring your friend and on the way I stopped at a sea vs to get my back taken care of and I walked to see vs and they are working. There was like you can come in here with us, Can I turn around just showed him like my back was all bloody and it was like dirt and everything. Okay, we need peroxide, please in like paper, towels or tissue that point? Are you trying hard to not sound like you're too a twitter like? I am a regular person who has been in an accident me, I'm a regular hers with extremely badge. I know how to look either law school, I'm of Europe you're here there is no bear loosened, knew. How do you remember that kind of thinking in New York allies there to places where that happens? Where you like? Look another lotta, crazy people around you right and I look

is messy. Soaking go either way, but I'm. How can I vouch for myself rapidly Yes, that's out of thy, whereas down a square? I believe I learned the math area living my allergies, shelter the date in an early and LEO's there, and I am keen to me fair man and he ledges wash my back so slight, and then I put, he's your down for the day, but it was I carry abrasive cuts is our deep. It's not a line. Yachts, scrape is just the rising off that's what I had so was you can't dont, really big and just like a day like a cheese knife, reduced theme just like that hot air, ass, terrible and then seven days later. Whatever was a days later, I was writing for like stand of New York to a comic strip, their upper west to the Upper EAST side, and I had my

like you. I saw an out and out April I was ever was I do get off your skateboard like our you're right about that that's gonna bike, and I do this than you did? I was writing and I heard the clicking noise narrow back tyre. I turned to look and when I turn forward again and was going directly into a park area, those there's like you'd, like the amount by We have to turn you wouldn't have just gone over the handlebars and see stages and my fist took the mere off. I broke the mirror and this left dangling. I bet you are strong and I got the comic Strip and my hands a bloody images. Like my back like a week before- and I was like, I think, I'm I have a death wish and I'm not you here, but you also seem to be unbreakable. I was on a regular. I hang it hidden the rear of the severe worth my ribcage, and I really We rely on my right side for a long time. I mean the lad. Retired a year and a half ago, when did you have a broken arm yet out

get about MR behind my elbows. My right above broke it doing as pilot for you central. Would you jump at a trash, Dan or something or yeah, go through an obstacle course and jumped the redress get it? I remember thinking to myself. I am I am I gonna fuck. It broke my elbow, but it can be so funny when the show gets picked up. In other words, the body that would happen is no show and you still had a broken the law when it gets cold. I still, as they rely energies Roma every time it gets cold. New, like Jonas Arcadian, has a fairly we inherit an interesting space for injuries are injury stories. I mean I guessed everywhere, injury stories interesting to themselves, but on the one of the spectrum you have fire fighters, professional athletes, yearning people who would be warriors, probably in another ear. Actual Rogers and the other far end would be. I guess, really obese or old people in in a regular range of motion and things happening, but were kind of like him,

wean where we're not professional anything besides talkers I'm comedy accidents. Comedy accidents hurt thirty percent more than regular access, because because a comedy accident is when you are when a comedy thing there's a vanity reason behind it, and I want people to think this is funny. I wanna get attention but in other words it's not necessary. First, I was going on or anyone's rivalled showing off and then you get entered. Rounding up, inform admire them, though you are doing that for survival unit. So this is true everything's playing our true finding out the kinds of idiotic I wanted. I want to talk to you about your experience with the with the comedy special. Yes, because we both what did you take years the day after yours? I oh right, ok, so we built taped hours in February and a month before I we would sort of pass each other as we are working on this and we both had that sort of like frazzled. Look in the eye would like step

Like I don't know, I am during those are amazing. By way I organised very organised there, the very organised right yeah, I don't know, that's that's thoroughly did they come a heavier like man, richer prior was so organised. Not about going to sign it held, is I've disabled. So endeavours was right when you see what he island and scraps of paper yeah you like, I hear the backing of our Andy can actually go cardiac striper. We pass each other with no book scraps of paper, and I said really want you to come on the progress that we can t. I wanna hear what your experience was lighter and disorder and sort has that out a little bit because it you ve done specials before that. This was a companies and represents a long time ago, and then I did it now for them into doesn't six men since then you, I did my series brain You any specials or anything you did a presence when it was you did that you did the half hour counter them the half hour. You did it

our when it was the dog choices time to do it. It was like early in the run of the serious and they didn't have a lot to re run yet yeah and so right. So I got. I got good expire and even my hour there weren't that many hours yet uncomely central of original programming as vs HBO that special that they bought or something so that got good air time in play, and I do companies into presence when there is still some customization. I guess you could cod it still had some sort of individuality too. It was like a mini our and you were allowed to have the set a certain way because right yeah evolved into just like it's the same set. We just put your and right right little box. There is a different name cheaper near I rode actually senior. Only after your comes into presents- and now it like that, my first, which was like how bad it you have to fight

segmented. The way you did at us right now is that was our, and I've talked about that. Where we I did, I fought to have the drawings in it. I fought to have my friends come ahead on state, I fought to have the boom box and stuff and they fought me up until the week before and we're gonna pull my special they're gonna pick. The deal and then I was like that's fine. I dont cause. I don't want to do it if I can't do that stuff in it, because I saw my friends do their specials and I saw them added my friend specials I would go to. Things in New York for years. There were in that same room I saw- Slovakia now and I saw sacks- I saw Louise Louis black tons of people, gotta taping scores of commerce could go and you go hang on its own nobody and you see them, kill live and they make him come out and the extra time, if they didn't do you know the view didn't if you the time they wanted even up to a guy you going with twenty two minutes have time perfectly they make you go back stage and do another. Six minutes

our editors yoke is they want to give them selves luxury in the edit, so machine that happened, Laval, Crawford? Who was when one firm and and I did our half hour- he was the other half hour that they were taping at the same time and he did that he did exactly like when two minutes or whatever they made him, come out and do another ten use that stuff. I guess so yeah. It's just look at the draw right. They'll take, I saw guys closures. End up is like the bump near the end of the second act, to go to commercial bring. Someone got the chance. I was like all right. I've been doing stuff it at the time of lunar lounge, these small, surrounding great my lovely. I largely Monday night. This was it it room on the lower level and house in another it's gone now, the actual building is gone, I think, is important building or threat across from pianos right. Your plan, one acts, fish other factors, Monday night yeah that that that that show was really find. It really were room near there. I think so. Yeah yeah around the corner wait, I was there I was I was then I love every that was it encouraged experimentation, and so you could try a bit with

diary, ears and drawings, or music or whatever. So when I got the chances of the thing they said, you know you have the one minors to the special we senior stand up. You can just do stand up. I said yes, but I really want to. I figured they re run it you make no money, but will you get his exposure? Long story short? I keep saying, as I hate, ending up being verbose, but my first segment industry, stand up, and I figured they're going to edit that they can do whatever they want. With that, I can't control that second, one have the drawings good luck. Getting that continuity problems does a drawing on the pad. That's there. You can only go to a tie to my face if you want to just remove a drawing, but that's going to be weird

and then it says the end. So I get to determine the end of my bit and when we go to commercial, the jokes run in order that I determined and cant do anything with it and then the next one I had a boom box recorded this little waltz with a piano. It's in a cassette. We come from commercial. I press play on the thing: it's looping. This thing I played so those who is your playing a chess game. I just gave us a bit so in this in that segment. If you want- and I had a guitar too like why wiseguy a guitar and the thing I've just strum after jokes, because now to tell two polish: oh god, you gotta find a break in the piano thing and the guitar and meat, and then the next act was like. My friends come out like the curtain opens in peace come out and caused you to create and slower than earlier, because you can't go backwards like once things, openness, outlooks differently up so sure enough. It was exactly as I recorded it and the first act was changed. Cassettes were taken, The rest of it was exactly as I wanted it. I had heard. Other people complain about their half hour, especially

I mean no, they cut all the stuff out that I did it was examined. I want it, but you know so far I've never had anything, but a great experience with them like they are left, was that it had well. You know I was involved in the hour of special and and I'm not, they did a great job. Let's talk about the area of if you want but short long, but the end of that whole thing was. It worked out fine, my half hour, but I had no time to rehearse and I had one shot at bit. I've never done before my browser was this stupid thing with my command and customs really is greater Amr. Yes, I like I did in a theater or in any room ever for the first time ever I did it was then in front of an audience. I got one shot: Luckily it worked well enough. It was like being on a tightrope. You know You know now you did your our! I just did this hour. I did thirty shows leading up to my hour. It still wasn't perfect and I wish they did this without different, but I kind of knew what I was doing after thirty target

How much of a perfectionist, though, or do you really feel like that? I think it's somewhere in between you know I'm obsessed with this idea of diminishing returns. You know in life when you just do something for too long, then you can look back in your life. Sweet spot was there now, then, here you know it's like Seinfeld em. It seems such a smart guy. He gets out of his series It's still kind of going up there are gets to be Seinfeld like forever right hobby, maybe so would have been for another year, but he sensed I'd. I've reached a point and after this is gonna, be diminishing, returns, I'm getting out well for me this. So was that I I had maybe a half hour that I really liked a lot of stuff that I was could doing currently and stuff, but I hadn't done. Unlike you know, the John Oliver Word document, or whatever the other through other stand of, shows identities. Andrew and then member they called Laden of actually maybe early December was December. They called and said

we're gonna give you an hour, but it shoots the beginning of February, and I was like I'll fuck I have to. I have to really together in my mind, forty five new minutes on time, the half hour cause? You really need like seventy five, for, yeah, I know or like our rather between sixty five and seventy five minutes, and so It was a mad dash to that was really fine and exciting, but it was a mad dash to hone. Material that I had and then cobbled the intellect is a bunch of new stuff. Together. Ricky causes great to have the deadline, but we ve all been doing stand of long enough, for I think you can be pretty honest with yourself and say, like you know, if I had this amount of time, I'd still be last minute rushing, but this amount of time would be actually sensible. These monetary giving me is going to be a child. It's going to really be hard. Road is because you, you need all

answers there. I can write a million jobs in my apartment, but I still have to go find enough audiences to try the stuff out on enough places in this. Only so many shows you can do in any given my time and then you're sort of pick and then for me. I was trying to balance and going well. You know I want to do some shows that I know where my audience, but then I want to step out of it. Shows where I don't know, like United practice sets in like long islanders. I would like in this way at where a town leading up to the few days leading up in special just the sort of may make sure cause. You know yes, Marta mean when I did. The Dmitri Martin person was my first hour that was in Austin. Now is great. That was, at the end of like a toy city tour. I did too shows in one night, but even that one similar

they told me hey so will do an hour with you, but you have to do it in November. Two thousand. What this it will do now with you as a great, I think by April I'll, be good right, and I said no, you have to do it in November. As thinking Yanks. I really don't know foaming we'll put off. That's a lot less time to get this thing together, and then we got two Austin. It was shows in one night we got there and it turned out the allay crew in the Texas crew weren't quite getting along he's not a theatre had had a play in there and they and allow us to get in there before the people from the plague to break down all their stuff. So there is like- day that we thought we had that was removed from the schedule. It was a complete nightmare inequalities velvet so like a deuce bearing a company. Go I'm taking a tv show there like we don't give a shell totally totally and it's like no tiers of a clan like us, the right usage,

but I think of my own and I was observed that rights are, but nobody was like it was a disaster the Lima, the lighting guy in the sound I were fighting the audience was in the lobby and they already been held for, like fifteen or twenty minutes on the first show two thousand effect the censure they were fighting a shouting match and I was undecided states thinking, I'm dead, I'm dead. This is crazy. First taping of that, our I used hardly any of it. It was a disaster. The lighting changed, like all these things happen. Remember between shows, oh yeah. I've done this three times in my at least three times on my career, I like talking Asian, unlike in the alley behind the theatre, am I going to buy back we're not doing this, I don't know where I

the thing that you can buy things back up really get the master tat story argument me I'll double it is it is this idea like money? I don't have a MIKE, I'm buying a back. I don't want it out there. I don't want my name on there's like anymore, I'm buying back in these. Are you not buying your bags, each member? That way is there in tabling work better for that one, and that that was the book. My special for this one I didn't want it in New York. I love New York, but after toying all over you go to these other cities, and people are excited that you're there you don't. I mean it's like an event clear. Your thing in Denver something it is, but I love the device of new. Guardians envisaged, is really great, amend its been particularly great with with stuff that I've tape there stand up. I don't know, I guess audiences that their their energetic they go they understand they give back, which is sort of new, knows what you need with an audience to give a little better. But I don't know what you you you ve been from Ally for, while the yes Larcom, so

it might be similar, even other, very different cities. For me, I spent fourteen years in New York got as I did so many spots around there. I love New York, that's my favorite place. You stand up, but when I'm taping something I'm psych Yanks, I feel like that. Like I had Dmitri he's always around facilities like I lose some of the juice, even though I love those crowds, I don't think there's a better place as an american comedian to build up your act, the New York than your yeah. I always I was so people are like if their, if their near a hub city like Chicago or so Let this go or all stand or like like cities with good little comedy hubs like learn. There then the New York yeah. Then you can go to allay yeah once you sort of hunger, if you want to go into the entertainment business rather than just you stand up, go to hell

If you want to just to stand up to- or the country in our right New York is over, making stuff lays great for selling stuff, and if you can, bands back and forth between the two, it seems like you could time it right. We can go to New York, makes him you stuff come back. Try to sell it did you feel was. Was your experience good for this special? Yes, it was my only gripe in your answer being protectionist. Just looking at the negative was I remembered. Some of the road shows in Austin was great, but I asked of Us- and I want to do my special and Austin said you did your last when there are like change it up with six years ago, doesn't matter the problem, even with my half ass totally like ham fisted special, it was still grey in Austin, and so my I did a warm of show in New York on Wednesday, before the gig and at room in the crowd was dislike tool for school

like jokes that we're doing really well in, like almost every other city. Some of them were just like me and I thought the sucks I'm gonna have a men have a shitty special, and so I freaked out can do anything about it but again found the alien buyback. I asked I went to that my agent get around here. You are there mending a lot of my? Do it right protectionist and I knew that that's right result. We generally all you want to buy back alley, get your money back, everything that you regret and so a soda I thought you were dead. Just fine and it was good and I did have a good experience in comedy central was they they treat me very politely and note. There were no care he notes are enough for you, but I've had I honestly honestly, every experience I've had working with them. I've I've. Luckily it's been a really great expert It's in there. You know they ve been really cool about stuff and they don't

the hassle me in their nice to me, like a red genuinely as much as I thought I would flip out about the special I never We had a flip out moment about it like it. When I, when I first found out, I was gonna, do it I had a little a couple of out days away. I'm not ready at this. Is this my special, it's gotta be perfect and then something in me just said. You know what just fuckin. Do it just get it out? Just do you re a head down, do it and don't make it a? I didn't want my experience of the first, but to be. I was a wreck I gotta, and so I didn't and it was really fun. It has really fun it's cool after going overseas, the first time ever get to go over there to doesn't three to really do shows in Scotland meeting so many the committing of their many people. I never heard of a lot of whom had hours. That's where you, oh my god, oh my god, so you it's

festival, and then why saw you right after that at Bumbershoot? And that's when you brought these two young kiwi friends of yours named bread and germane right and put them on. I gave Bumbershoot puzzling came in your days time and then you go to come. If you can be american, they crushed and then was flooded the concord, yeah yeah, that's right. I we hung I had met those guys and had so much fun to Edinburgh Fun for you. I love you. I did four times, but it taught me a lot about expectations because they have that festival. Rear and there aren't many tv opportunities in their aren't television specials away. Have that there's? No! foul energy. Conan really, you know, there's Jonathan Rossman! It's that the same people, don't they don't have the same system to run through so people gear up every year for that festival and they'll do thirty shows in a month for these thirty, our long performances of

show that they wrote and if they want to come back the next year than they have a new our that did you thirty times deficit will the next summer, so they just vessels over these are working on next year show so the expectations as dictates a much more prolific crop of comedians than what we have here and, of course, Americans could be as prolific, but dont have the same structure. Certainly, does it yet every day to do it, but over there Louise, not an anomaly. They all do it during an hour every here, they're trying to get five clean minutes succinctly. I mean that's. That was an interesting thing to me. So change. The way I understood, building up my act, you know to turn it beyond that clock, which I can't quite ducas. I'm trying to write other things, but I thought it was interesting that you can do an hour every year if you have to do so with you know that I always

I always wanted to be able to write like two line: jokes because it just their fun and their their quick, and they, you know you can catch. You can kind of broadside people were, and I dont write them well, like my stuff just drags out and then, as did the more the but then the more I was into it. The more I became afraid of two line, jokes as I go out, but then sort of theirs sort of like a fifty fifty chance. You know that people going to get it or not. I mean maybe the set the right number, but it's basically that whole joke sink or swim. Based on the turn You can put on its hard to hide his heart, a high with which, if used to and straight jokes, it does a very objective moment where you're like saying I was safely telling one liners is like. It's like asking, a girl on a day like a bunch of times and around there's a definitive spot. Where you ask your asking her out we're, not friends like I like you there. You know so vague that kind of a trustful, whereas if you, if I mean there,

difficult to different ways. Right, if you do longer bets is just has to earn its keep right, at least with the short choked through just like little skills his popping one after the other in writing like I've labour. What about this one? So they're kind of easy come easy go but the headline you need a lot of them. Did you ever want to be in? Was there ever any sense of you know? Maybe I wanna be the. Maybe I wanna be a Louis american style of Comic, where I just bear everything on stage or no in Edinburgh the first year that wasn't one minor show that was a personal show that ended up on the internet and not to get recording of it, but I talked about Palin drones and all his personal stuff. Again, I'm not Louis Richard prior Maronite, I was on the matter, team. You. Nobody was very honest. Like I just talk about myself. My second show I did net umbrella was about my marriage in divorce. When I was young is about falling in love with a strong high school of Super personal long stories, third show was also present issues I didn't do here. I didn't used to be in New York five times ever and then I took him overseas, determined

Festivals, and that was it because it was interesting. They didn't know me as a one minor comic over there I was a story telling you know so it was called that the stuff worked, and I can do that. But what I found was when you do really personal stuff. So as you even the one. I answer me too, but the and between me and the content is so thin, almost invest often gone that if I do it too many times, not only do I get sick of the show and hate the show I hate myself. Oh that's interesting shows me, I'm I'm just using up I'm cannibalized, my personal private experience to sell it to people. So what I ve is I've. I've already taken with the very tenuous tiny line between me and the content is a comedian we sell ourselves strippers. Maybe are the only people who sell more of themselves and we do in a sense. You know I mean a singer: songwriter, yes, but often its veiled right,

There's like some distant you in the content, a novelist wrote a book. You know you have a band, you sell the band, so you're, so your base, we on stage showing your emotional tits yeah, which of course is the most captivating best stuff. It's Richard prior is richer prior because he's doing that read so I love that and I aspire to I just haven't found a way to do it that doesn't make me and of Haiti myself and doing it over and over again, but where's jokes. I love the puzzle of it. Of course you know, there's a game to it. That is still really pissed another Sunday very vulnerable. By being like, like we're talking about like that's the punchline like. I think this is funny as they trying to sing on He what I'm saying you right now this is it I'm I'm going for you, but what about it? But but you know the type of stuff that in over the type of stuff that you do, inform a lot about how you problems, It forms a lot about how you see things, because there is there's always sort of you know a back door

into something like Britain paying into the pool is different than paint paying the poles developing into the pool. I think so and as I've got an older like, I have migrated more towards longer bets. But it's interesting to hear you say the reciprocal and I don't know about for you, but if it's like Jesus, as one minor and have nowhere to put him what happens here. And have been his little store thumbs. Idiotic, six at all, all have em around if like a if a longer but doesn't do well alike. Say one lighter just to get them back up spare the eye or you, or I find that sometimes I'm trying to reverse engineer them into longer bits and then so that they become a punch of a longer bit rather than just you know, landfill. Bring out there and disconnected anything, but I do like the sorbet idea of like there's a little known information before the next junk I just dump on twitter.

Things are promoted within that that goes away. The feed goes away, but at least I got the idea there and if it responded to what no. It's like, I think the great luxury we have doing comedy is that you get this kind of on edited opportunity with alive audience of course- suggests express yourself. You can try anything I could be to MAR starting tomorrow. Just do really personal long stories, and I have that prerogative crowd might not like it, but no one. Stopping me. I don't know I mean I do know that my favorite performers earth- I I think I realize this last year the year before, for me, really helpful if I can articulate something in word. Probably why do one liners like any one liners for myself to remind me, but my principles like what I believe

What I understand it's some stupid, but it really does help me in diagrams two phenomena whatever, but I'm thinking it's my favorite performers, probably from any era and not just in comedy but actors, and I guess musicians too, but certainly comedians. They have this great

was paradox where they're, both their equal parts like commanding invulnerable? At the same time, too much of either I dont like if it's too, if its invulnerable, unjust, too confident commanding it's like I dont care, is inhuman, acted to that person and if it's too vulnerable, it's like please like meets clawing its sera, be its gross and sent to sentimental its weak. It's two poorest, you know yet, but the right balance and I keep mentioning richer park- is not too long. I saw one of his amazing specials near like that's awesome. You never in doubt about his command of the stage, but you're also, like you know, he's really giving you some he's really giving you something. You know like those two together, I think, are authenticity like that's like you can't fake that won't even handed way who started. That's that once budgeting loves ancestor,

like they? How open funny yet dislike does very it's like it. Then everything starts to show a confidently. He says that I hope by. I hope this is gonna. Be another thing about Bernie MAC. If you see Bernie MAC here in the early days on the Deaf JAM special sister, when you think I insecurity you motherfuckers Ike, that such a smart idea who, like me, I did it. I am eating contaminated. I can't fake that the hand fake that that's the thing. Yet you can't you can't fake that an that's that's experience and but you know I found when I do started and- and I think you know, I think, the the richer, priors and Louisa the world make people think outs. This disease, getting up and telling personal story, but it's a very hard thing to do because when you start telling a really personal story on stage, you have to figure out what fucking funny about it, because otherwise people just go like they just feel bad. I cholera, who gives a shit like that's my promise stories is that.

One has memoirs and is so anecdotal and all the stuff, but who gives a shit you have to be really good is deceptive. You have to be like Louis figured it out. I was I give a shit if he tells a good story there's some sort of a universal in it. It's authentic. It took a long time, because if you watch yeah and it and it really happens, I think It happens. You know around the time his kids were born here, because before that. He was a fucking amazing concept in joke writer and he would write these really incredible Beth about going to help me, I suck my dick. I use other guys dick. It doesn't work here that you These are really great sort of philosophical. The raises gather group of arms are lower than animals raised it and then all of a sudden- it's you know he has this amazing skill set. He knows He figured out. Work harmony is, and it's very authentic. I think it's like five minutes, and it is personal minute has substance year, and I think it's it's just one of those things that he found the weird route,

his brain like ale. All I pour the yard the concept in this one and just filters through and it comes out of my mouth because you think about what a lot yeah yeah they become at a certain point. You do comedy so much that, hopefully the goal as you become. Kind of a machine in the way that you anything that you consume is gonna, come out like a Hague Ailer let it doesn't really you dont have to sit down and go. I would remind you that it is we're so dependent. Is such a dialogue to such a dialectic, our job like it's? Not you don't just. I can think of other good examples, account or jump. But I do know that like. If I were musician, I could theoretically practice practice practice and just Lay in my room. I could get a guitar when I was ten years old, listen Hendricks and be everybody and get amazing and then emerge at like age, thirty with

can have fifty unbelievable sign. I still think even as a musician union it you don't have to figure out how to connect to an audience. You no matter how good you are and I think withstand up. It's definitely it. It is a dialogue. Audience is a unified body and you are having a one on one conversational them. So I think about it like what from having a phone conversation with someone, and they just make a lot, jokes and are funny, but I don't really get any substance out of it. Do I walk away going oh yeah, that guy was funny, nobody- I don't know if I deaf necessarily feel like. I have to talk to that person all the time, because there wasn't really any substance so when I know that the dialogue is interesting because it's not just between you. The audience in the room and of course, as you yourself, what you're saying in a written, your head or whatever, there's the larger odd is just where comedy happens to be at and I think in a lose a great example cause he's been well received.

By so many comedians for a long time and he's been funny in different ways, but there's almost an interesting complements, I think, for Lily, where he was doing more absurd stuff that I think was authentic, and that was at that point and when you are talking about working opponent, Conan eating tons of ice cream until you, like China, passed out his life but there's and then there's the economy goes a certain way, the kind goes a certain way. Media goes a certain way and then Louie also grows in a certain direction, talks about more personal stuff at a time its darker, time when I think the world got a little darker, you mean like there's something that's out of your control too. I think that happens where there's like the kind of life

There's a flashpoint using a synergy and like it, it's like really all the elements can did they definitely do come together, like you know, has been how much of it is, how much of it are sort of accidental qualities and the sense of you know if that is to say if Louie were like a super handsome chiseled guy, would the material play as well or does it part of at work, because you know here's this guy, who saw it looks Luke, gallery kind of ball. Go we don't guy any comes out with these really brilliant philosophical angles on very simple concepts that all people think that these really intelligent is obviously an incredibly smart guy was part of that is part of that disarm the audience to that kind of, because one thing here masterful add, is saying some of the worst things that people say onstage and get away, and you still are on his side. I was it

like you know, you can be funny or you can be cool pick one because I think is comedians like you want to be cool, sometimes like a rock star, but it's hard. I think it's hard to really be funny. If you're too, you're worried about that kind of it, of course, measured regarded it guarded. Yeah great. Ministers in aloofness just built into it. I remember slowly around you see something like gum muscles and suntan funny or something like that. But, as you know, it's I think that's kind of true, I think other. I am sure there are sections to every rule that you come up with, but generally there their interesting signposts that kind of help you understand it a little bit yet. I think the rock is pretty funny. Iraq is very low. I don't have your dna and about his muscles in his last era was mega I raised the witch Mount making me when he is. He bought it back, did you? How did you?

back. You could actually be within the wrong alley viable with regard to you, but it is interesting. No two- and I have talked about this before with these guys important programme despite cast but now starting a new hours unable to really ask a question which I didn't really ask before with the first hours? What do I want to say, which is a very difficult question? the very difficult, and I can totally relate to what you're saying, because I think, as me mood changes as a human being, of course, everybody, my audience or the large audience there, they're kind of subjects that rise and fall. Germany's like twitter is a perfect example. We're talking about this less than a meltdown. Sarah was there and dug beds, don't live in San Diego, sometimes just don't feel like tweeting, something that's supposed to be funny, but just like just an idea or just trying to you just feel something just Carolina

and then the responses you get a nice w. My replies a long time ago has never felt better after that they also have the answer, but it would be like not funny you're fallen off enough funding more you suck you fuckin sock, not funny huh, you have a show in arms, doesn't thinking, I know it's not funny. It actually wasn't supposed to be funny. I am a human like it's not just the areas joke joked you'd know about that, but I think the way people see you is that you know that's my service for them, that's your service for them, and you know because people are sick. People have to catch, rise more in their brains than have ever had to in the history of mankind, and I dont think that we are, I dont, think we're evolve to handle Madam commissioner, we have disorder, agree and so people, I think, as a default just sit. They have to see thing very one dimensional, because that the only way they can categorized everything in their brain you're that guy too damn right, you're, not a person you're, just don't one dimensional output device rent, and so, if you step outside the definition,

what they have to be able to categorizing your mind that just like the other brain says that that's a glitch in them, Rex. I better point that out entirely like on my special person, the last one of his eye, Dmitri Martin person, just like you know, person fulfilled a human being, which of course I am a bit. I thought very similarly to what you're saying the address this. I would say that in showbiz you will be put into a box like, that's how it works. We are things that were selling, so the trick is when you're anonymous. When nobody knows you are, you have to make the biggest weirdest shape box possible swim. Put you in at least you can move around in there they give, in a rush. I know guys, you guys know these guys and look and women who they are, and they're like they wanted you Letterman. They wanted whatever they want to get on tv like get me out, there want be famous, and I'm always like just

but he knows you are you have so much freedom, the experiment, experiment like do anything, and I guess you can always do that. If you're really courageous you can, you can be Bob, In any event, everybody I'm goin electric. You can do that death, but hopefully, when you do that you still get too and make money yet is I do. I definitely think the downside for the famous complexes that first of all people come to show with a tremendous amount of expectation and they're just not given a lot of leeway to try stuff out, might like your Chris rocker, Seinfeld I mean those guys are awesome and they're going to draw up, but they probably still want to grow. Is artists and try different stuff sure. Then it

grown as an artist like. Are you still an artist rent, philosophical calling a back up? He said it oppress them in as much as we were hearing it, I think, is a joy Jonah. It's one of the great luxuries and pleasures of guinea's you comedy is that it's it's a very thoughtful journey. It can be. You know you can be a clown and I guess I do really stupid stuff and if you're lucky that heads and you get the money, but did you ever did you feel competition with other one, nine, Joe Comics, because there was a. There was a period where I feel like there was a mini explosion all around the same time. One like don't you know the truth as one is right has run two thousand one billion, because you have jack, you have Morgan Murphy, you have dead, men, see how they don't know that I was doing. I was in that's when I started and that's what I was trying to do. One line I tried and failed how's. The work can do it here. While you know when I started and ninety ninety seven- and it was a huge Stephen Right- fan, eyewash

a comedy on tv in the eighties, I thought I was gonna, be a lawyers and arousing the comedian, but I've related to what Stephen Right was doing, because such nerdy reason, but I loved her like puzzle, box and stuff, and I do delaying, and I was so like there was something like aesthetically, actually very pleasing that psych fell He was fulfilling something me when I learned how to write jokes. My first set ever was twelve jokes, and they were like. I remember, writing S Colin P, calling when I would write a joke. I would write like a puzzle like the set up ends at this in the Pandit. Vaccinating we're like my my way. Was very like technical vous? So when I started understandably so people said your Stephen Right and I was like- I'm that makes sense- I'm influenced by him, because that he was so different than everybody. Then I discovered woody

Alan way back to how many young men and you realize. Ok, it is a form. It's just that in the each year there were very there weren't that many people doing it in the eighties. You do have EMO Philips. You do have Brian Kyle he's been around quite awhile. He's Conan writer he's a one, aren't you so there are guys, but in terms of that mass popularity, Stephen Right was kind of the guy. I think so. I started what is it you're Steven Reign, then, a few years in Mitch, Hedberg, who had never heard of, of course, which became much Hedberg supposed to tell me you're, like met your match, you may sound, like I don't know whose match then I see matches in New York at the sir, but I want my friends to come up and you see this guy, so I go to the comic strip in the 90s or maybe two thousand, and I watch mentioned on my couch OKC

similar. As I keep Canada, I'm came a nerd, I mean he's like a stone or got you know. You draw distinctions immediately to the larger world. Was the difference between me Zack Mitch? Name is a white guy doesn't have a conventional haircut jobs. Are that long. But are we really if you really, if you really uncover the layers? Use you see, that's it the difference, but I I guess it's like thing I will have one ban. Has a guitar player will happen as a guitar. We must be the same. We know what it is you just let it again comes back to authenticity like if I d, thinking one wonders all the time. How long can I faked the fund for if I'm Billy ripping someone off than it's gonna come out, because you can't do it for that. The governments even right yeah, he was Superman. I've met him a couple times. He is I've esteem Reiser. I can tell you guys if play at the time if he is like pretty close to maritime favour. When I was a kid bill, Cosby Stephen right, you know I love Peter sellers with just a few comedy giants for anybody. You know who is uncommonly so I got work to do.

One time I met him economy. When I was a writer and well arranged brought me down a new home, he was a guest on the show. Is one corner was in New York like in two thousand and three? I guess this was and is Stephen him. I'm a comedian and I'm a fan and I'm in by you, but I think I'm kind of fear am, I think, he's a good guy drawings right today. Because her hilarious housing are, I so much I didn't realize you knew I sent for you as yet because of a few but when I'm writing my when I'm writing jokes, I mean, when I come up with new jokes, each ones. Only like twenty seconds long. Six me a long time to build up my I said yeah and he's like, and it's only like one and every like you know for five. That's like funny. I guess that he comes up with and like yeah I walk away and I'm thinking like I have to come up with. Like twenty jokes

time's up here than I suddenly mathematically anyway. So years later, I got to do it. I got booked on benefit in Toronto. Made you committed hates. Is this benefit us greatly? since theater and you're going to be the headline or do you want to do it and paid some money? I said yeah yeah be great, tells awesome. I like Toronto. President of I love your honor. You refer cited as they did their great so like absolutely and then. That was a few months out in a month later, something pretty close to the gig major cause. We back, and he says hey. I just want to let you know they just added Stephen right to the show they just book Stephen right on the show too, and as I can, I still doing so. Yeah yeah there's a few com, perceiving rates, this was just a couple years ago. Could we have. I was at the first. Where was just for last Toronto? Was it around then? Yes, ransom, time. Ok, I might have been on the air, so I said: yeah. Ok, I guess so he's gonna have he's gonna close out. The show then right cause

he said no he's going to be the end of the first half there's a break. That's like that's, not appropriate, I'm not comfortable with that. I think Steven Wright should close out the show. Will Steven Rice is such a gentleman he's such a laid back guy. He genuinely doesn't care as I'll talk to him, but I don't think he cares. He says he doesn't care. What have you want, as I think you should close to show if he's comfortable, that I just I think, he's dead. Right and I'm who I am and is obviously is it ok, I sure so Hokosa show you close. The first have great. We go to the show, and I do my thing and it's totally fine. It goes a great and then Steve right closer. The shell awesome he's got amazing new jokes, I'm enjoying Swashing show next day. My next stop as Boston the airport the next day, and I get on a plane to small plain and, of course, the right lives in Boston, not thinking so I'm on playing. I see Steve right get on the plane. I talked him for a couple minutes after the showed that night in the night before, and it was totally grace the nice and was greatly I'll call like he remembered me, was so the next day a monoplane, and I see Stephen, I get on the plane

down the aisle- and I see em is this. This is such a subtle presence what I mean by sea and is an empty seat across the way. I see him stop and look at his ticket and look at me and just I'm just sensing, the smallest facial change of light This guy is like kind of employees, but I'm feeling for the guy just In any event, I visited a college or something we're like just please email Michael principles, and so I just does not do I'm thinking, I'm gonna leave the island, I'm not gonna bother him. Spain is a game. He sits down and I was so we just fly take off and I have the flight, I'm thinking, I'm not gonna, bother bottom. If we don't talk, that's totally fine, I'm lookin bother, but he knew she comes he's like thirty like flying so cool, they kind of talking and yes we're talking them send. You know I don't like it, but I've flow

more than ever thought I wouldn't my life through years of some experience them. It's like this is the job you know, so I learned to deal with and he's again as it gives a good Austria. He said yeah So that's Acta. He's again, you know what that flight was so long, that almost kind of forgot that I was it was just a sea saint funny stuff, that's just they gets. It was mine works, so we land and he's like you're, gonna baggage claim yeah I'll see their leaves and then I get off the plane and I'm heading two bags claim and then there's an escalator that goes down to baggage claim as sovereign rights disappearing down the escalator at the top of the screen. Ago the scientists, as my name on it, the driver take me to his hotel for my gig he's a give any bags idleness of currency. Now he's got the car just out here so this moment of, like oh, so can I go through banks hold on. I was gonna, go through baggage claim, but I guess I'll avoid that. Should I go down there

say goodbye to not have a bag and discover a back up. You know em over thinking. I've got a stupid, you know, so I realize I figure. I leave the guy alone I take off, and so it goes on. Exclaimed and then, like fifteen twenty minutes later in the car, most of my hotel, the dry ranches phony thy aright. He has been a fall in the back seat as the other drivers passenger wants to talk to you alone. You're right. I thought you said you were going to happen that are mainly the first is a long story, but it was for me it is totally throw easily I'm living Stephen rage. Here I mean which is the that is the ultimate gift, the ultimate gay influenced by someone and then having them, pull you into their world, and I were ITALY, as I was just totally flat, and thrilled by the whole thing- and I said our man, I'm sorry, you know I didn't know who I was right,

was downstairs and scientists leave me alone is I just want to say, was- is great working with you and you know maybe I'll see again cuz. I and Santa Monica industry wants is actually seen each other and we're places investing in some city someday. So again, assuming California, if you ever want to write or something of the sort of critical uses, automobile echoes a class act, brilliant Doom, Stephen right, I met him once in two thousand Vegas AUS had been up all night than I walk past him in the hotel lobby. As I also call back it elsewhere, does like dumb hat and he's sunglasses raised. Up on. I wasn't a rights based. I just through I like, took him by throughout the ground, like of myself I run over it, I was. I am, is right. You so yeah May I am, I am Jonah Comic, I'm really really big fan of yours. I grew up watching his eye. Cool

what are you doing in Vegas advantages in and we ended up talking for about forty five minutes as the media and a well I'll see you around. I guess Leave it I our walk, walking away like a Jonah. Like I turn around. He just offered me he's a how many friends you go with you and as I like five of us is a Wall Gimme. Your name or write it down, and then we all got to his show that night. That's that's a nice day I the interview once for I was, I wrote, a piece for wired about the joke riding process. And so I interviewed him and Bob new heart really great April and em, but my phone conversation was Stephen Right was so it was very off putting in the sense that I'm very bad letting moments brief. I always feel like I have to put noise in here and who he was

I would ask our cereal that island that so you I would ask you a question be a long pause to the point where it almost felt like all right he's either hung up or he doesn't like denominator this whole story. A lot of like yeah and then so, just a month ago, you the incident and then he would answer wound. But there were so many it was he definitely he definitely forced me to communicate in his rhythm, which was very hard because his rhythm is totally different than mine, but he was a fascinating guy. Talk to just about his his prime, his joke. Talking about how he's like yeah, I guess I've influenced a lot of guys, but I let you know I don't I don't see it like. I don't see it. You know I like what other people are doing and then you talked about it. So weird because he's like I continually do com,

Eddie shows all round the country, but like because people don't see me on tv, they think I'm not doing carbon anymore here, where's. The weird idea, he's Elsie and ran Boston Overtime hours, super background Boston how many say we're in cork, as you know that I left here is mentioned, George Carlin has an influence like you really like George on citizens. Really you can't escape yourself even if he was ever trying to do Carling. He Stephen right. That's the way, toxin conversations and like that's how it works. You know just how you get to stick around is like you. Escape yourself. If you try to you lose, he really was one of those guys. I mean, like I watched every comedy special in the eighties and he was definitely one of those guys that if I He was in the line for something like I'm gonna keep watching this until I see him because yeah it was just such I mean even emo. Emo does do like he sort of broadsides you with angles that you don't see, being, but a lot of them are stories. The current really hard twister. It's not. You know, that's true. I did this, and so this weird thing happened. I did this in this other we're thing like he's. Definitely

There is a mechanism that similar but but emails, emo, just kind of poles you more into these longer so May, about the hill have lay a whole story like going on a date with a girl, but every other line is just a crazy punchline landline. It's incredible! You mean even Irma email it but just kind of keeps on twisting to the different areas. I always sort of one of that too. I was there envious of the guys who had who were weird characters on stage was sort of, sir, because it sort of seem like once you build. That is your character. If you can get away with a lot, because no matter what you say- people like that's coming out of that weird characterised around be really funny, but you drinking is dude Skynet sucks the trick is if you want to work in other stuff that zero

not just be that guy is Bobcats Bobcat of yours, of not having of not having to be Bobcat narrating cause. It's weird. It's ok, you think a rocket booster that shoots you ahead right and then you're like run out of fuel, so much faster than a handle that burns twice as bright funds. Half as long as you have burns very, very bright, lady philosopher, from blade runner, Tyrrell Corporation right before rector how're, it's his fingers and his eyeballs spoiler alert. You haven't seen. They'd runner by now, you're, probably not going to see blade, run a hypocrite. Appears than eleven year old going. I was gonna watch movies, but well. About an hour, and this was the is there anything you have coming up to talk about a sure I'll talk about people just switched off.

They love. I'm pretty sure here goes Ireland now ass. I did it. I did as an album along with that special, but I swear separately. So I didn't a album in a common carbon. Minneapolis, Acme These are great glory it yeah, so that I have that out there now to seem title Dimitrios instead comedian, but you know my special. I had some drawings and I did this flyers. Those are visual, bets sure so, and its special airs is only forty minutes about So I got about an hour long album. That's like twenty minutes of different stuff that I worked really hard on some trying to get people to lease downloaded or something. And then I got a book. Adroit coming on the spring, oh that's I remember that, and let me tell me about that taking me while I was supposed to come out this fallen, I missed my deadline and is against this. Has taken so long to actually do the drawings because I got like

dipping pan and ink learn how to really do ink drawings, and I did more than I was gonna do for the book. So I think it'll be a better book, so we think her but calm point your face it. This thing is: I'm precept before crowned Dimitri, because the thicker book doesn't always means, but I know I know, but this is that I made sure that it's already thickness, I met someone. I met this other one line. Comic is doing a book of drawings, but with a quill shares most of the timber because, as I said, her young, the spectral being I can pass my hand through your call about a year ago, where'd you go sable, yesterday's like this again press. What are they disapproving of someone? for, I am doing poorly ETA. Show I ask myself: is this room haunted her, but he is very good, but I think I just got a good bit for Mitch, Hedberg or Mitch Dead Bird

who is doubly Mitch Hedberg join us Dimitri. I hope you have a good time very last notified. It happened, back in about its chemical, because he has obviously only comedians become fans which is nice and beaver Canadians and are also kind of cranks about. No, no, I couldn't I dont know you know some people who just use comedy as a vehicle I don't get it yet. I can never imagined a time where I won't want to do stand up yeah. You know where it's like I'm. I made to a certain point that thought I wanna get too. I don't need to do that. Shit anymore. Also, do you, when the furnace parts one year starting out in comedy you know, I was still promise that looking guys on starting com hearing one advice- I tell them what you know. Half of it is Hang it on talking about comedy after the show you do. Your shows within go with some other comics to a coffee shop, and just talk about comedy and how many theories just be really it? Oh double

to be nerdy about it and like this area, like the reason you often get into companies because you're not getting laid and then when you stay and talk about common either comics you continued, can I help you keep writing materials wherever a wonderful thing is the unattainable carrot? Do you feel like that? You have to have a certain amount of dissatisfaction in order to be a comic I've- like, and maybe I oversimplify things, but if I follow my kind of authenticity rule I personally, deal lot with that in life, and I think a lot of people do. I think I don't know if you have to, but if I guess what I'm saying

being often take. Then I'm acknowledging the dissatisfaction and unfailing with life and there I find comedy, but maybe there's someone who is very, very slightly dissatisfied with life or and doesn't have that parliamentary enough they come up. Will then, then of the following. The follow up question is: do you feel, like you, maybe unconsciously, generate dissatisfaction with things that are probably find because you need to analyze break down, you know create it. I think I'd probably did that before it Kommeni, but it's that kind of causation thing is it a causes, be because they are jury is the external cause of body and beer. Some here I mean- and I think it's kind of I might fall in the camp where I don't I haven't quite found a way to mine my pain so directly and literally that make that kind of comedy, and I don't think I'm stuck in that trap. Yet of like

Man I gotta go live hard, so I can talk about my adventurers and make that my content, I'm on it. Erect. Cannibal are getting kind of cycle, yet our November will be so I still I like escapism and I think most of my stuff is. I still like to escape into thinking and I kind of those kids. I guess I'll just dig it around to find out, because I feel like something that I've noticed about myself lately is that you know I might analyze things or pick things apart. That are perfectly fine, even just like personal situations yeah, and I think, it's because I'm so conditioned between comedy and also the work, the work that I do and running the stuff that I run of like constantly having to give no actually having to analyze thing with comedy constantly trying to deconstruct and figure out that admit, it's almost I find sometimes that with personal situations it sort of like smashing a toaster. Take it apart than trying to fit it back together when it was a perfectly fine toaster before I think, there's something do what you're saying if you are a professional basketball player,

Your brain and body would have to be used the amount hours, you haven't day, you'd have to directed to that the man you would literally build up those muscles and normal pathways a thing in a very different way and instead you ever career. All of us here have one that is a very different use of our time, brain energy and focus in it. I think it does their two fold unto itself and its, like. You know to me ever this great book about it Oh plasticity, Antonov five seven years ago, and I was so interesting as I don't remember a lot of it. I didn't understand fair amount of it a programme that has been a joke about Neuro playing. At any rate, I don't remember like five or a kind of a year ago. I know my heads plastics. Nobody wanted the gist of the book. Was they used to think that when you're a kid? Of course your brain is pliable and open and there so many different ways you can go. But as you age

it starts to cement and things can change is harder to learn language and so on and so forth, and that, while a lot of that is true, I dont think to the degree that they thought it was ok go. So it's like the choice you make in the behaviors that you engage in they actually literally physically change, the shape of your brain and the neural pathways by repeated behaviour. So putting aside questions of free will and what you can choose not choose to do. Let's just say you can choose to do certain things. It's really interesting, like you Shelly reinforce those behaviors and everything. So it's interesting to hear you saying that, because I think that might be a legitimate thing. I think there is some sort of a weird tie, a kind of like subconscious, auto determinism, whereby I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that the older you get the more energy it takes to perform a lot of tasks. So you just create shortcuts. You don't spend as much energy as you would expect before, to try to create new pathways and that's why people get comfortable and protected and, like I fuck new things

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