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you don't have to. But if you like at Dunkin, do I live in the physical space? Ten things Well. How would I don't mind if you know I'm going to start with them off? Ok, it goes right. Well, you sound really weird! I mean I can't hear that, but he's not so weird right now, yeah yeah yeah. Alright, I'm not feel weird now like this tune to yeah. This is good better here. If you need him okay, I have I'm just listening for like levels and stuff. Okay and ours is right and the I like in my own voice, last of it later, as the only reason why yeah there's really are you guys playing in town this weekend last night before last night? So no, no now it's over, I was. I was traveling back from Boston yesterday cool. How was the show it was very good Hollywood bowl yeah how you play there before we played there, but more people can the stamina that was a rude opening up for you yeah great bill us in Beirut, Nathan, fielder, cam man. I hello that Nathan Fielder love him

talk about one of those pranks. I like that. You see needed on Twitter, where he told people to text someone saying hey, we need to talk your significant all right talk and then just don't back. Then it was really shitty thing to do to someone holy like that, ugh, like people would reveal the so much of themselves like it's like what what's wrong with you. Is this is, did you find out? Is it because I made out with this person? Oh yeah goddamnit, that's bro, Yeah he did another. One was like two ounces for fifty and then Tex are usually under arm like something yeah like that, your parents with it and then that was it for you, and then like a lot of the results I was looking through is like people, parents going. Are you drugs again. Maybe if you have a history, don't do that right now, 'cause, it is not a prank anymore. Did he did he just watch from the Oh, no, he he he came into like a little performance. I wasn't just.

Nathan, fielder was in the audience no, but I mean that was called that he was there. He came after Beirut played, he came on stage and I'm kinda I was like over. We can ask me introduce them, but I asked my favorite too. I wanted you know take a minute and then he's like you know my girlfriends in the audience in his class and he brings her on stage and then he's talking about like how much he loves her and he starts uh thing that Lone STAR song amazed he starts like singing it really awkwardly and she gets like really uncomfortable, and then he proposes to her and she's like on stage and she refused to marry him. It was funny, that's great there. What was the reaction from people? Well, I was. I was watching it from like on a screen backstage people seemed into it and I think it it at this point people I don't. I don't think people really sweating. The like is it like with

is real or not, but yeah people were enjoying it. What is it? Is it stressful to play the Hollywood bowl or is it like yeah? we made it or is it? Where? Is it there's so much that you have to worry about that? You don't get to think about it. You know it's well, there there's like little bits of stress. I mean being on tour. Always gotta worry bout, my voice, so you're not going. Wake up in the morning be like we got a big show tonight. Can I sing but outside of that I feel like increasingly com, when we walk on stage for a big show, people put more pressure on it because it's like it's, the Hollywood bowl and there's more people coming and it's like la and stuff. But it's really not. There doesn't feel like much to worry about. Lately I mean it's just it's not it's not like a small rock club. It's a fucking, it's like one of the most famous venue

in the country yeah. Now it's true, but then it's like there's not that much. I mean worst case scenario. Something is really wrong. You have to cancel the show other than that. There's not that much. That can really happen. Jennings idea about them that I do have anxiety, but it happened. Once it was definitely one of the worst days of my life. We had basically realized that I, my voice was totally gone and I really thought it was going to be able to do it, and we had this. You know few one thousand people out of this, like beautiful spot near Seattle, basically had to send somebody on stage to say a little. I can like here everybody bill, backstage and then it's like go to the doctor and get steroids boy yeah. You look great well. Thank you, narrow buff. That's also how I got jacked, so my life so sweet packs there yeah, so do you find lay audiences to be more disinterested than regular audiences? Well, the Hollywood bowl is an interesting place because you know most times when.

General admission show you have the most hardcore fan come at one thousand one hundred am or earlier to be in the front row, so you're playing in front of everybody in front of signs and their site, whereas at a seated then those people are in the back yeah and then in the front you have you know, people who probably a lot of money for the you know, ticket on Stubhub read something like that. You kind of have this. Like it's fun, it's flipped, so it in that sort of the Hubble, so big and and so steep in the you know, looking out in the distance and I can kind of see the little pop people jumping down in that look at that look down right in front of Maine and there's like some teenage girl, dad like sitting on his phone eating, lobster it's not a rock venue red. It's like you had. Those are like the reverse pit, where the pet is like that people are jumping around like a way on the hill, yeah and they're, getting it in the like. In the past, like by the time you

you get. Some you've already played it. It's been a few seconds before that. That's what they had a really different calling yeah I'm trying to go to space yeah exactly it's just so far like it. Every time you see those like old, huge concerts and like they get everyone clapping and just like a lot of totally out of thing yeah, totally absent from what's going on the stage, but I'm not going to say that that's an la thing, that's a specifically did amplify everything felt great shows. I don't think la crowds are particularly disinterested or anything. How do you know what what what has to happen in your brain? For you to say like this? Was this show went well or that I don't think we got it like what it? What is it an audience reaction, or is it your performance? What has to what's the checklist well as a

as a lot of go, ask how much less the all the yeah everybody's in all the places all every month- yeah, okay! Well, I'm I'm a kind of a I can be like kind of negative about. I don't know. I just feel like it takes a lot for me to feel like that was a great show, but you know you have to have a for it for sure really to to stand out. Thankfully, we rarely have awful shows rarely walk off stage and be like wow? Those people hated us, so it really needs to be like everybody like jumping up and down and like hands in the air to feel like. It was a great show, and you know sometimes it happens, and sometimes it doesn't, but people expressed themselves from that confidence, yeah and then, but then you're also always in that you're, not always as a performer. The best judge of whether or not like you have some cues in your mind where you go of people are doing a and b than that. That must therefore mean that they were enjoying it. But that's not always the case. Right. So now I always have to remember that when I'm at concerts, I'm not in the front row, you know screw

making my lungs out after every song, like I'm, the type of guy I'll hang in the back. Maybe after thirty minutes go get a drink, maybe like step by the bathroom. Look at my phone for a few minutes then go back in and it's not because I I dislike the concert, but you know some part of a concert sometimes is coming in and out and like you know, taking a break and talking to your friends list second, whereas when you're on stage- and you look and you can really see somebody on their phone or talking to their friends, you feel, like God, this person must be having like a terrible time. But it's not true. I think you do forget. You do forget, weather. You know, and you can get so mad at me, like God, why can't that guy or like oh wow, I was that guy and I was enjoying the show. Fine, I just had to click. Do a thing or I had to check something people don't even think about anymore. Especially now, especially now that people Thank you imagine like performing in the like in the 80s or the 70s, let's say the 70s. No one could be focused on anything else other than the show and whatever drugs they had with them

I must've been awful the warring yeah I can be. I mean you know this is the the live. Tweet error can't be mad at you know, because it's like a kind of a generational thing that some people, like, oh, my god, everybody's holding up their phone taking pictures and take videos like it's not like you're, not even there, but I feel like a little bit more on the side of the kids yeah. I know that I can relate to that. Like school, you have your phone out. Take a lot of pictures we'll be like tweet throughout the the show about what's going on, and I can't be mad at it How old are you I'm twenty, nine? Twenty, nine? Okay, so you are just you're sort of your really more on the side of the audience that and like someone whose who doesn't under and I'm, like you, sort of you grew up with this culture right. I grew up in the internet era, I mean, but you remember, when there wasn't really internet right. You were young, but you must remember some of you know when I first went to concerts, people were not life, treating them it's true. I saw

both sides of it. Their lives eating them. They were just magazines: yeah yeah, yeah, dude, where's, the stapler alive, so we've got a Kinko's key, really loud, Xerox machine. I'm glad that those days are behind me. I gotta buy one seat for me, three for the Xerox yeah, I'm just passing back pass it back bro! You prefer it now. You think it's better now I think so, I'm in I'm constantly Well, maybe maybe it's just because of twitter and the internet that I feel like I get more taste of what you know. Teenagers are thinking, these days than I would have in another area, they think it about anything at all. That may be true, but I always kind of think. Like yeah, I think it is kind of cooler that people can

you know, do things the way they want to, and can you experience a concert, I don't think there's anything cool about whatever forcing people to like stare at you during a show. Just like you know, with music, you can't force people to buy an album anymore right now they have to. They have to want to give you money but so in some ways I feel like this is the best area to be a musician is really crazy that there was a time where artists were just blew fully unaware of what their fans thought other than the fact that they came out to a show, and they would The show and never really Any idea, like the only real connection they would have had, was what are they right? rolling stone or what did the you know what happened at the signing your records yeah exactly like, but otherwise no idea, every little thing that people liked or didn't like or what they would do differently or as performers we're so much more connected to everyone that it's almost like. You can't those days that I think of the sort of.

Clueless, like whatever kind of rocks, are guys, are the red dead yeah, but I guess the probably the anxiety, levels of musicians and artists probably hasn't changed that much. You know like it it's true now that you have the all to read every little thing about you and that's something that you have to manage and hopefully not do, but even back in the day people get people whatever read the rolling stone review and re read little press I feel like they would still probably go crazy worrying about how everybody felt certain. So so. In that sense I feel like it's probably not that different. I guess maybe that's true, because then they wouldn't know they have no way of knowing sounds great. They get like one bad review in the village voice. We as like Billy Billy, Joel used to like go on like tirades when you get like a bad review and in like a local paper and

click on stage? Maybe he would hold a little bit if you had all people like you know treating him all. That, then, is there in that bill. Is there just be like a a stream of all caps tweets? anyway. Anyway, it was the Kanye West, you guys keep from you know it's interesting to hear you say like well, I'm sort of negative about the like. Is it you really feel very satisfied. You feel and you feel, like that's necessary. Do you think it's necessary to never be satisfied? That's an interesting question is my mind a lot. I'm often sometimes I surprised myself by how yes, but I am with seemingly satisfying experiences. I mean that's like just a bit real life that I think everybody has sometimes like you dream about

thing big, like a like a big concert, put a lot of pressure on it. Then it happens and then you're kind of left feeling like, but but but was it actually good? Was it as good as it could be, and then you kind of realize that maybe that the this question that anxiety never really leaves you, and I I do think it it's partially just yeah what it means to be an artist that you do have to be hard on yourself. Sometimes I think making our albums were not making making our albums with often very difficult. I mean they're like great moments, but when it when, I think when I boil it down to like it a feeling there's, definitely a lot of stress and anxiety related to

I think without it, they wouldn't have been as good some of kind of like two minds about it like that. You do have to be hard on yourself, but then you also got to enjoy yourself. Sometimes men. Do you, though, do you ever do you enjoy yourself, sometimes well, usually usually after the show? After the show I mean just because the the weight of the performance is over and you can kinda relax so like last night, it got on stage. I was like what is a nervous. I felt like very calm, but but in my mind wondering like was wondering: is this good or people enjoying it? You know watching the gun on this phone, that type of thing and then finally, after the show that's when I could finally enjoy myself, so it would be nice to kind of find more of a middle ground, but yeah you gotta.

You got to worry. I guess I I I was thinking lately. I don't know why I'm thinking about this, but I have a nephew and there's one moment of him when he was a kid that sticks out in my mind and I'm just sort of realizing now why I've been thinking about it lately, my brain was trying to express something I didn't know what it was, but when he was like, I don't know, maybe eight years old, it was Christmas and he and he got a fucking amazing hall of Sensenbrenner, sixty four I've seen the video. No, no, the kids go to raise. That's. I think it was on again check out the store, the site check back in Logo Christy Wikipedia Space, Really it's that kid. That is exactly wrong. Ok! Well, if Wikipedia said, then is it hard Wikipedia says that that is true, but so he gets. He gets like all these presents that he wanted, and so I guess I was your sort of expect.

Him to be like he's going to be the happiest kid in the world 'cause. He got all this stuff, he wanted and it watching this child who had no filter garb. You know, like just didn't, have grown up skills yet trying to process getting all of these things that he wanted Mmhm and he didn't know how to react he was like, he looked and then he cried for a second and then he like he, he like hid 'cause. He didn't like in his mind. He wanted all these things and they were given to him, but he didn't know like it imagine that he was going through and my supposed to be happy and my supposed to be sad. This is the thing that I wanted. I don't know how to everyone was looking at it and expecting him to be. Like ha ha, he just didn't know how to give whatever he didn't know how to so then fill the hole that he thought needed to be

Well, I don't think it's that it's just a kid really had no idea what to do with the thing that he now had that he had all the things he wanted play with it. What do I do you know what's interesting is I feel, like you could tell that story to ten different people in ten different people would be like? Oh, he was probably thinking this everyone just project I think he was experiencing. Tennis of late capitalism without having studied economics or sociology to really know that he didn't really have the understanding of spreadsheet data to really yeah. I was also Weir's been everything you wanted was an economics and sociology yeah. They got all the new dated my nephews. Noam Chomsky that I mentioned okay yeah, so that probably makes a lot of I want to write a one. Man show called my nephews, no job, but I think that's a very, very real feeling. I think what it's meant to me lately is is that you know it's. It's all a lot of a lot of fun. Things are happening or a lot of things are happening, and you know, and- and but I assume in in your case to and there is that kind of moment of like is this

happening about how my supposed to what to do. Am I not embracing it? It's like it's the. We're thinking and not knowing how to, rather than just like read, one also wouldn't at a concert as as opposed to a lot of other things. It's if you have to experience a bit of stress or a bit of yeah you you have to enjoy yourself a little bit less so that the audience can enjoy themselves more. That makes perfect sense, yeah because ultimately they're the ones who should be having a great time, yeah they're, the ones who should be getting drunk like if I got drunk on stage, I don't think I'd perform as well. My like most of my voice or something I'd probably be like a little bit loose.

Or something. But it's not for me to do that. I think it's for it's for the audience to have a great time, so occasionally that trade off makes sense when you were younger it. If you heard, if you heard your future self or someone else like you talking about like well, it's not exactly what you think it's going to be. Would you have been the kind of person I like hey fuck, you man, it's your! You got what you want. It's all awesome all the time and you should never have any problems or uhm. I think. Well, I don't know. I think I guess it at any time in your life, you, you always need something something else to kind of look forward to a little bit. So you know when you're on tour. It can be difficult because you're playing a show every day in I live in this weird zone, so you kind of like. Then you look forward to time. And then, when your have your time off, you look forward to making new music again, though you're making new music, you look forward to performing it for people and getting feedback and then.

And then you do it better cycle yeah. But that's the thing that kind of messes. You know everybody up. I think we're just it's like you're, always looking for the next thing to do. It's always like, even and at the at a smaller scale and global tonight. I have a thing to go to and then like. What's that things you're like well, I got to get. In the morning I gotta go and do this or I gotta fly out to this and that's the thing that I can when you have that mindset of just always. It's always like another thing you got to do on to the next one of the next one you kind of realize you can us, like life, starts like kind of slip and away from you at that, because the b, two years like I was always just ready. I was just waiting for the next thing to happen and it's been two years now and it just kind of passed by where we just wait for it to happen well at war. You know it's like if I could just played this venue or if I could just play the size venues and you get that off. I could just play this bigger one. If I could just do two shows there. If I could just have this, you know it's

What is the I don't know if that's a blessing or a curse, I mean the blessing hers Chris. It is, but it's also a leading in it's a bit, but it's also a blessing in the sense that it does make. You strive to always try to do better, but then the curse size that you get caught up in that pattern of You know like when you're gonna be satisfied, but only when you stop and just live a life one's enough right, and I mean there's obviously many many moments of satisfaction that come with you

having like genuine fans, and you know I'm sure you guys have the same experience that people that certainly that that makes you feel good but yeah in terms of like a career. It is very easy to get caught up just because the way that these entertainment businesses work is that it is always kind of looking for the next move in. Will you play that venue or something? And then I did that I've had a few moments, that being at festivals and watching kinda older bands play like the headliner. You know the kind of that's as high as you can go, there's nothing beyond being the headliner. So you know when you, you kind of like watch them in there. Finally, there, and I can realize slick enough that, doesn't I don't. I dedicate my whole life to do just like trying to reach like the very top you know like. If that happens, it happens, but it's there's something good. I think about is escaping that kind.

Like obsessive. Yes, I'd like to help Paul Mccartney feels about being a headliner for fifty years, like he's been doing he's been at the top of that game for fifty years. Well, I probably just feels like this is just how it is like. I don't even think in terms of that anymore. I think if you, I think he would only ever feel. If it got taken away and then to be like, but that's obviously not going to happen at this point? I don't know it just seems that's mind boggling to me that guys, like they were twenty, whatever two thousand two hundred and twenty three yeah, but it's just his life like you can't I mean like he doesn't know it's like it's like. If someone who had blonde hair, What's it like to have black hair you'd be like pretty good chance I'll tell you right. As you know, it's not it's. Your last name pronounced Keineg or that's it scan. So

We have a a one of our mutual friend named Danielle, different Daniel Queneau yeah, who is the daughter of Walter Koenig who was on structure yet my grandfather's name was Walter Koenig to really different got a totally different guy, but it's a it's a Russian, it's german, german yeah. I get a check of the actual, ok, I believe everything I see on television yeah, it's the truth is that because it looks so much like Koenig and there are people have that last name is pronounced, it Koenig I have, I very rarely correct people they expect. Last night at the after party, somebody came up with a with tell me: how do you pronounce your last name as like Cain Egg, one of my roommates in college, some have known for was there is like really they I thought it was going to get. Everybody is like oh yeah. We all thought it was coming and it's like yeah. You know you can keep that conduct, but in in German it's a slightly different part. It's pronunciation anyway, so kind of

who cares so who's right, really right, yeah did give you to and you guys are the could. The kid is must be related at some point in some ancestral. Well, it depends because you got you got your jewish can eggs. Then you got your your german, german, german Kate exit current eggs, so it's unclear like how everybody kind the comes together but my dad's been involved in some sort of a family of listserv, so I have gotten to know like how deep are specific branch of the Kennedy family runs that some fourth cousins, especially being on tour ocean water. You know I'm at some fourth cousins in Saint Louis and stuff like that. So did

definitely, you know a fairly big family, but I I don't know yeah, like I said the teacher and high school, MRS Koenig there's different or listener. The third then, would say the same yeah women, so you guys can't be possibly related. You go to Germany and find like a whole branch. I would imagine, it's possible. But the funny thing is it's a german name, but the banana my family actually came from Germany. In fact, I found this out from the listserv, my dad forwards little tags or look at this yeah that basically the Og Keineg dude came from uh the Lycea, which is in Poland um they sit in it and there's some sort of family band. This is what I got for to to make because there's like some pictures. Just these like old S like shuttle dudes holding like a I don't know some kind of weird stringed instrument and and so got forwarded to me like check

not like the bands. It was your dad saying he just wasn't a picture of Mumford and sons. It was last week with the sepia tone. Yeah and it just said. Oh, this is like the family band from Gleason. If there's also a place called Gleason spain- and I was like oh, I knew it was spanish yeah. It makes so much sense in the night. Then I looked it up and suppose CSR, it skips every fifth generation. So far, your great great great great great. I also want to talk for a second about how much I really enjoy your of our jackets things are doing yoga. This is brand new. Somebody give us some at the after party last night s denim on denim yeah fit to Hand painted a hand painted that yeah dammit someone gave it to you. You know and then I do think through Etsy we're surrounded by things people have given us know. I know that somebody made this blank. Yeah yeah people out here,

but I know is yet made us about BAR Jean jacket. The best part is that it fits it worked out so well. Someone just had to do with the show last night yeah. Well, there's some this girl young actress, who is a big vampire weekend. We never met before, but she came to the show and she once I'd like written, a tweed kind of like a some joke about how one of the above are jacket, as opposed to a bar board jacket and a and a business? A a a I'm gonna get a Jean jacket with Barbara. This is like a long time ago the laughter bridges came up and give us the men and it fit and everything it's real. I mean it's really one of the best gifts I that's fantastic yeah. What was your reaction on the day when you got everything you action? Well, you know the running full, so you guys know what you're doing every together. Well, you know it's funny. I

It's like the things that you really want. Yeah you're surprised by you would think that selling at the Hollywood bowl be walking on air B, no matter having parties, you know sitting seven, some petrone in the corner, wondering if the meaning of life, why do I feel so empty? And then somebody had your jeans jacket for the world back to cloud nine, you had a very large size, Jean Jacket, a hole in your heart. This is what I needed yeah but see. This is the kind of where, if this were like this that you were like 70's rock guy, then all the sudden, you would become super obsessed with that jacket and you'd. Never, form without it, and it gets really superstitious about it? Well, there's going to perform with that jacket on it depends, you know, get the fall coming up well let's or shows I hopefully 'cause truthfully. I like I like jackets. I like sweaters,

I'm going to do I like jackets and like sweaters, but you also don't want to be sweaty pig right stage, and this is, this one recipe really hard parts about being a guy in a van yeah. I don't think a vampire weekend. Is this what he bent? Well, not our our business is a I mean I don't think a blown up this, but he he would say that he is what's up quite a bit unsteady. You drummer discuss. Why, like some of those he's pretty far, but he also hard being being a drummer. He can also like, where stuff that you can wear like a basketball, Jersey or tank top or something. But lately I haven't been sweating that much

I need to do more with less everything. I've seen you performing year, usually playing an Epiphone Sheraton. That's right, are you still playing that yeah? Is it modified? These are questions. I know it's not modern, but is not pick ups using yeah. Well, the well. The funny thing is is that when the band started, we were at college and you know I I'd played guitar, but even have a good. With me at school, because I hadn't really been thing about guitar that much for awhile. Then the band started, and I don't want to be playing guitar again and CT our drummer, who was originally a guitarist. He never really played drums before was like okay. Well, you can borrow my guitar and it happened to be an Epiphone Sheraton and I've never been like much of a tech when it comes to guitar, sounds like that looks, cool yeah and it sounds fine and then I started playing

and and then for just like at a certain point. It was kind of like time for for me to buy a guitar and it's about the same one and we're kind of stuck with it and, of course, on record we'd use different things and Rossum plays different guitars, but it really is just like the fact that that's what city had in the storeroom, while I'm at work or know what, inside as a guitarist. Why did he say uh play drums? Well, we asked him too, but originally Is it a group meeting or like we have something to tell you? Well, I guess we need a drummer in the band. Originally my vision was to have another friend playing drums, but he like a friend from New Jersey who wasn't at school, so it didn't really make sense and then roster had the idea that Chris could play drums and we already like played music before another capacity. So we just like gave it a try and it worked and then how long before you

as we're like it. Was there any point where, like maybe you shouldn't play dramatic, did, did it pretty quickly like? Oh, this makes sense, or did it take a while before it clicked? No, it very very quickly. It made sense, and I think definitely kind of on some of the early songs. The fact that I hadn't played guitar much in a while Chris, it barely played drums. Rustom hadn't played keyboard. All that much of the things I think helped us the to come up with more original arrangements. Yeah, you do have the songs chord changes, so I think we just kind of realize that that that it will it benefit us to not have because, like you see, two could have been on guitar. He could like didn't shredding and stuff, but- I think, playing drums probably forced him to be a little bit more creative. That's really interesting idea, I remember reading an interview with Paul Mccartney. One stories like talking about how they were, like poorly trying to play, Chuck berry songs and that's what became the Beatles sound like what came

because they weren't able to play exactly what they wanted, it sounded something different and that's what made it them more noticeable to people which is that, like it's like them, fucking something up, run as a trumpet player until he realized he couldn't sing and play the trumpet at the same time. So the Beatles originally had a trump instead of a base that women, so we did. But it's like you know the math is, but you know you go to guitar center and you watch like the guitar center virtuous is. Shredding on their various instruments will be and it kind of well I mean weird across there right now they're right across the street, I mean and that's I don't think, there's anything wrong with just loving an instrument. Technically, you know if you just want to like learn how to play You know Van Halen stuff, when your guitar, I think it's like a very noble pursuit, it's very difficult, but it to me it doesn't necessarily get you anywhere in terms of like making something fresh, yeah we'll knowing

record doesn't mean you know how what in what order you can put a man to make a good song yeah it's it's! It's it's good to be like a little bit frustrated, trying to figure out what what you want to do. What do you think goes through the minds of the like guitar store virtuosos when they because wait all day somebody walks in and hears me. You think that's what it is live. I think of it happens. Also, it's the same sort of thing that goes on with girls that show up at parties looking to be seen. If that sort of a bill see me guys, do that, like a girl's, show that parties in searchlight plan. Screwdriver. Well, I think

I mean I don't want to discuss it, because, especially, I think somebody who probably can play eruption would probably look at my primitive guitar playing and you know just think I was jealous, but the truth is. I think there is something satisfying in learning how to do some learning how to shred it's almost like I don't know running a marathon or something it's like you're training, your brain, you lost something. And there's something it feels good just to like teachers Something in you know, it makes sense to me that there are people who you know, maybe that their day jobs non in music, but this story on the weekends like just like, learn some guitars yeah. I did a couple months ago. I bought the bold as love the Read that teaches you every bucket and lick of bold as love. The entire album- and I was like this- is actually pretty fun. Now I can play bold as love anyone wants me to

Is there anything? I don't think? What do you think would be because, like literally, could walk into guitar center right now and there were probably three people at least three people in different corners? Is it that they're just trying Different guitars, or do you really think they're like this is my I'm did they think of it like a performance? Well, I I I I there's an archetype. I see there a lot because I frequent that guitar center and the same match across the street, but there's an archetype. I see there are a lot of uh. Or at night, sometimes like Thursday or Friday night, and I need to grab string or something like that and there's a way either. So I'm just example strings that okay, but what a night of the week it like a Thursday or Friday. Okay, okay, okay, yeah, you with me, I don't hear I'm right in there with a dry drove them. No there's a I see often older middle aged looking gentleman with a girl that is there with him, then, I always assume there on a date- and this is part of the data is left, guitar center.

While his guitar center I'm going to play this thing. Not a place so he's peacock ran over his peacock and that's what I see a lot happening there. I mean even going back to and I I I sort of got the joke when I first saw when the world which was in the theater at and it's like an SR knows their way. Is that they're not that's, obviously, a type ahead to change when they came out of when I went to home video they if no longer sounds stairway to Heaven years old and even then that probably goes back another twenty years of people just like that guy.

Right in every guitar stores, there were denied yeah, but maybe you know it makes it. You know like Washington Square Park, there's people who just show up and start break dancing, yep and any obviously there's the dudes are like trying to make money, but then there, on that, you know outside of that there, the guys who just start dancing and they're doing like some pretty intense stuff, so they're like half p cocking but then they're also just trying to like meet other dancers like show each other their moves. So maybe there is a bit of I don't know it's like a lonely guitar trying to socialize yeah- maybe maybe you know, maybe he's he's hoping that a general just welcomed me like a really good math. Now it's a Friday night when you got to move them. Has that happened? I one of the of course that had to happen right that had to have happened where they weren't were Band is anyone in a successful band that has found a fellow member of the band at at our center. There isn't there a way that had to happen at some point I may be able

guitar center, but a guitar store. Now I need it to be a good time. Maybe like a Mccabe's or something like an old guitar store on the cave, is gonna be real folky. It is so when Joni what do you guys would with albums out of your touring. Are you even thinking about the next? thing. They're going to do is just like. Well, let's do take it one thing at a time: yeah kind of I mean everybody always you know obviously get little idea here and there right him down, make it a little demo or something, but we're certainly not like getting together and earnestly trying

make the next album. Yet it's just you know it's just difficult being on tour, so you know what we can do you like touring for the rest of the year and then, when we finally have some free time, then I think we can think more clearly about it. Something about you know this last with their third album. There's something about the these three. The kind of feels like a a set, so it more so than than than in the times with the previous problem. That kind of feels like now is a good time to like take a breath. I just kind of feel like whatever happens. Next will be like a new era yeah. Well, there was a guy. A longer gap between the third and the second, as opposed to the first and so yeah right, yeah 'cause like there was that I think Contra came out. It seemed like it came out almost instantly where those songs that you had written around the same time as from some of them were a lot of them were kind of like already cooking, but that was also just because we really pressured ourselves to get out quickly. You know like after when you have a successful

first album this one to be like what sophomore slump. Well, we did I so quickly. I couldn't tell I remember it with them that the phrase I kept having in my head around the time when country came out was just that we really need to come out swinging. I was also just more a personally break in secure them because when you know either the first time that you present something to the public is also the first thought. It's the first time you get love in the first time you get hate and special,

back two thousand seven two thousand, and this is some crazy times and we're real veterans of the buzz band wars. The you know, people start to learn about blogs and stuff. I mean that was there's a crazy time, so you know it so with our second I'm. It really felt like we need to make this great. We need to make it different. We need to like really like show people like the another side of the band, and we also need to put it out relatively quickly, so we did put a lot of pressure on ourselves to kind of turned it around quickly and then, with this album, you know, after country came out, we kind of felt like okay, now, what's most important, just making something that we really believe in and that we're psyched about

however long it takes in it, took about two years to make an it feels like a a decent amount of time to make it about time. I don't you know, there's some bands, the was a new grown up that would put out an album a year like Sleater Kinney as a band. I love, but they put out an album a year for like four years yeah. I got to a point where it's like. I need more time I'm with the job until really listening to it. Yes, some process, yeah yeah exit like a another one examples got a voice of the just like kept on putting stuff out. It's like all right. Well, while he's written like yeah, what is it like? Thirty thousand yeah there's something it just gives up putting out solo, stuff and yeah. I mean I guess, if you can, you should, but for us to to it really takes a while to to really get enough songs that we feel like her at the appropriate level. So cannot yet works at night

I. I was a little bit stressed that we're making the last album, because I thought that maybe we were gone way too long. I guess people always worry about stuff, like that. You feel like all my god so much time. Well, there are a number of us yeah. Are we gonna it when we come back as it can be, like some kind of like weird reunion and, of course, like you know, going to to like the being connected to things you have like kids on Twitter. Being like. Oh man, like I love your element, your first album was that was like my jam in middle school. Like that's a weird thing here, I'm about to start a Penn state yeah. So there's that type of stuff and you're, like oh, my God times, passing so quickly, but then you put it out those years disappear and it's like you know, I would think it's kind of the idea of a band and doing two hundred and thirty four albums. This

there's that thing where people, so you make an album and then people love it and then the second one. It's got to be different enough, but not too different, but if it too much the same. Then people like oh they're, just doing the same thing, but if it's two different people like they've, gone off the deep end like it's finding that, how do you? How do you So I guess I guess you just can't really make stuff with that in mind, because you would fucking go crazy, trying to figure out what people are going to want or think but but but it seems like the public, wants their bands to evolve but not evolve at the same time right. Well, you have to kind of slowly evolve. Thankfully,

I think, just you know, being a music fan growing up obsessively you know, looking at the discography of bands that I loved you know, obviously with the Beatles or the ultimate template, but then also the clash or radiohead. Those are beastie. Boys are all bands that stick out, as you know, having had album to album, changed and done some very different stuff, but ultimately it all kind of feels like right. It's all part of the same

story so being a fan of those bands? At least you know running a record, we don't have to worry about. Will the you know what will like the world think that it's different enough, because the that's more or less what we demand of ourselves? We want to make something that feels like vampire weekend, but it's still kind of different. We wouldn't be satisfied if it sounded too much like the previous album and then also the the sad part is occasionally were start working on. Something that has kinda sounds like the last album and it's always bad. We never had something that was like holy. This could be our biggest hit ever sounds a little too much like a punk. Let's digit it because it always sounds like the word. You know, should your version of a punk, you know right, never gonna be top yourself and also so it's not like that were

really brave or anything and also you look at people who kinda keep doing the same thing. That's always diminishing returns, nobody respects them. They don't respect themselves. Well, that's what the other lacks that last strokes on the just got. They got obliterated like ever, which is saying it's just another album there wasn't not much of a difference. They did some. There are some deep cuts on the Delaware. They did some pretty different stuff, but I guess but I do yeah when their second album came out which which had a bunch of different stuff, which is great but a lot of people. That was like the big criticism that people had as they said that it sounded, even though I didn't think it was true, but it goes to show how much that idea of a band staying the same like you really have to work hard to avoid it, because even sometimes you make something that you think is different and people will still, SAM. You know symbols but like what that's the thing when bands change- and I like a band that involves you know over time, like you say like the c boys and bills for sure, but there's other bands that I I like the product that they kind of you know put together originally

written on my fair bands is the weaker than send. I think about this up on the two concerns up. So it's like I like that when they they put out a new album, it's going to be it's going to come. Walter become like going home, it's gonna, be like a does that sound to that. I'm going to that. You know that that they have a product, I'm we know that store and get that product which is like nice, even keel like indie rock stuff. You know it sounds like drug, yeah yeah I got it is well. You know, there's a recent study that said the drugs and like the reaction that people get with drugs and music are kind of similar but it's like James. What's going on, your brand yeah releases makes you leave your family yeah. It has been a lot of people in the family to go on the road. Again, that's right, yeah to keep living the dream, yeah, the effect of the legislature yeah. I like what you said, though, about I never thought of it. That way is like when you said like with the Beastie boys, a Radiohead, it's like. Well, it's still part of the same story. Maybe that's! Maybe that's what it is it's it's. How do you stay consistent? That story, because

Obviously you know Radiohead at every album they make almost seems like you know. There are true daring, the other like try to follow this. You didn't see this coming. Well, I mean I mean, but the difference between, like you know, from okay computer to then you know when they did that kid day in the in the amnesiac address like it got one more: the court, the chords in the electronic stuff, we're harder a little harder to follow and sink into it. But then, ultimately it was like. I still accept that is like oh yeah. It's all part of their thing right and also you imagine some kid yeah 'cause you're right when kid came out, people were like I mean some people were like This is insane so crazy. This is so weird, whereas, like imagine some kid today who's fifteen and is like starting to get into

Is it going to start to like Radiohead? And somebody like is like? Oh yeah, listen, ok, computer listening today, they probably they just it- would make perfect sense. It wouldn't be scratching their head and be like this. Is the same band. You know it within a given Pablo Honey Bee like who are these gradually right? That's awesome, but it it it all. Ultimately, it all makes sense and yeah it's, because you get the sense that they were doing exactly what they wanted to the worst is when the band changes and it seems like they're kind of doing, and I have fast way like their x and kind of making their like Kourtney's out, like sellout, album and then you're respected. But if, if you really, if there's a conviction, then I do think it does feel like part of the same story got feel so bad when, if you make, if you make a bunch of albums and you're always sort of on the cusp and then finally, you throw up your hands are like fine

the public, what it wants, and then the public doesn't want that you're looking for new well, that feels real. Well that that's a weird thing about. Like you know, I, like I ripped your Weezer I dropped off for me like like like that's, not the same the same band to me anymore, but it's again, you think it's like well, that's how rivers, if uh does a song writer, but I can't really say that because he like he says it in his lyrics that he's trying to make hit songs like he wants to be like a big, huge rockstar. He wants to be compared to Justin Timberlake and Other things being ironic, I don't think so. It seems like good music has to be sincere and it's, it seems really sincere. I remember that interviews. He says the same thing. I remember I remember the pumpkins album the smashing pumpkins album when they came out with Mellon Collie and the infinite sadness like that double disc. Was that the one that that low upper that would not do. That was a huge. I don't know that one and then the the one that they followed it up with like the public. Wasn't into when they started edging towards

we must never be yeah? Was it a machinima? I think was but I feel a real yeah even do yeah even but I think people were like kind of into it, but it was unknown. Color was so he hearing him on the yeah 'cause! That's when he went from like the scream, an outfit to like the like that, like the uncle fester, goth layer burner and then like the full body, leather and cape, what was that that you know the world is a vampire so yeah? You know yeah right like it's just like it's just also: nurses like their got now. I had no idea but then album and then and then that yeah that album it didn't do as well. I remember him from Howard Stern. He was really mad and frustrated was like I don't know what happened the fans just weren't there for us on this one and I'm sure in their mind they were like yeah Every album is going to evolve in this new way and we're going to try to break ground and we're going to try to. But I guess I guess

I don't know, maybe there's no formula to it is like well, sometimes that works and sometimes it just doesn't work yeah, but it is also like Kim if the fans weren't there for that one elements like look at how everybody you know: teenagers and people their twenties and thirties are all obsessed with Fleetwood MAC Tusk. Now yeah, that's like the biggest hit album of the past five years in some circles, this task yeah- and that was exactly that the fans weren't there for them coming up one of the biggest albums of all time. Consider this big failure and like who cares now now everybody loves it. So you know, I guess that's chance have to be ready for a a bit of failure, I'm in I'm not ready, but I read about that. I was reading about that. With magical mystery tour came out. Everyone was like what the fuck yeah you know, and that has but doesn't have that fool on the hill. I like it because I think there's some amazing song. Imagine this matter, but it. But at the time you know just from what I was read, the press was like well they've gone off the

events like they don't know what any of this crazy weird. Culture, video that wasn't a real album. No, it's just like track right. Is it not a movie movie? Maybe that didn't help with no health, give it all it. Ultimately, I think if people make something that they truly believe in, even if it the it's not quite as successful as some previous stuff, like that, eventually will come around to it. I I like entire catalog, amazing, but I wasn't really into see sea change when it came out, but then I went back and listen I was like, oh my god. I wanted to like see change so much because of how much I dug mutations, and I thought was going. Other rubber rations and when it was- and I was like Miss having revisited yes, it's great, but it's also it's. It is cool to look back, even if that's not your favorite, at least you can say like he made so change, mutations, Midnite vultures, all in a row- and that's like you know he didn't repeat himself. It's like some people are going to prefer one. You know

double crew- I just I just ordered some girl did a selections from his songbook and how he oh yeah book of all the arrangements with that and uh. For the record show up it's like some girl that it her version of all the songs yeah I played through. So it's pretty good. Now, but I guess it's the sort of a difference between Weller, doing it for yourself or you doing it for the audience and but then at what point? Do you sort of like? Well, it's verb. All of us. You know like 'cause, you can sort of go in that I mean the amazing thing to me about someone like back is that he sort of rides that rail between, like any in any one of them it could be like fuck you you know like that, could be it that is self and you're just doing that for you and it's too private that no one else you're doing it for you and Xenu yeah, yeah yeah. Well so far, I think the

the band and our audience have more or less been the exact same. So we've been lucky. Could they diverge in the future? We start want to make some like weird funk. You schitt, you backed up for John Rhe, weird funk. You should yeah, I mean it could happen, but I guess yeah as long as you are psyched what you're putting out there into the world it's kinda, all you can hope for, but so far it's been. It's been nice and an interest. We we've done this stuff on our our newest, album. That is sounds like a completely different band than the first one that has, it has almost nothing to do with you know the sounds are the the ideas on the first album and then, when we go and play the song side by side, people kind of like fill in the gaps and kind of make it all work, because they they're they're able to look at it as one

and so I don't know, I think you got it like. Ultimately, just give people credit that they'll be down, but do you write? Do you ever write anything where you go? Oh, this isn't really vampire weekend. It's a different identity. Like do you have a stash like a stockpile of stuff, that's like, So this is for something else. I don't know what I don't know. What is rap lyrics, really yeah, but I can't- and sometimes I can like integrate it into vampire. We can, but sometimes it's just too uh. I don't know a lot of times. I'm like I listen to Interactive, two two times a little bit too tight. I don't want to like. I don't want to blow up the spot yeah I mean we're already killing it in the rock world. Now I don't want to make that we all remember what happened when rock and rap met Woodstock. Ninety nine yeah, They bring the noise anthrax, with public enemy, that was that was fall from the judgment night soundtrack that was run judgment. Yeah that judgment I sound,

I'd have like a date. Yep everybody thank you, then say bristles argue has I'm trying to remember some of the other de la soul and teenage fan club finished that's right! Yeah! It was just a bunch of like rock and his crew yeah great sound track, I'm into the with them. They do believe it. You know it's all music and that you know it's taken separation from all over the place, and you know it all kind of blends together but yeah, I just it. Sometimes, when I listen to, I don't know like It's been like really obsessed with this asap Ferg Album and like a lot of times I. Finally, when I listened to it started, like writing rhymes in my head, that kind of like mimic the rhythms of what I'm hearing and sometimes it actually turns into something that I can take back into vampire weekend, but sometimes it just doesn't make sense to try to sing some of those it's enough, but I think that that's where you always have an opportunity to add a live show you could to experiment with something totally weird and if it doesn't work in

then people like. Oh, we get to see oh fun, weird thing, experiment an if it does connect. That's true, I mean yeah. We did discover blurred lines and I wrapped the t part. That's the last time I wrapped publicly. I used to rap a lot when I was a kid: it's really. It's like freestyle battling what yeah this is. Why is this not turned up somewhere? Well, there's people have found it's a bit that you know there's like one rap group I had nobody's ever found this full rap album that I met in high school. Thankfully it's and as I I have it here, actually sends it with a list says it to the family. There's some wrapping around, but it's like it's like five generations ago, when they run these weird fuckin' steampunk turntables yeah, like we said family sitting for nineteen century phone. Here I like that they have to like there's like a pedal that to make the turn table to the horse that the horse horse walks on a on

The thing are the gramophones yeah yeah power is a minute and then they basically stopped the horse and get him to walk forward and backward circles a redeemer every your breath like he doesn't wow where's the camera extra, but it's still, but it sounds like and and every everybody says, hang on the horse freaks out yeah but it just it sounds like it sounds like like Alexander, Graham Bell, all right all right over a red media. Everything around me. This is all it's all horse power or start steam punk, that's and that's our kids are doing how many house was a horse bones. What's it like a like a horse or have a horse is a great concert. Big big steam, punk hip hop would be amazing where, if you had to create the insert sort of like the like, the FAT Albert Junk Yard band gang yeah, I think you have to you have to create the instruments and they're they're, all like man powered somehow manner steam powered and the roots,

I created them both the remember the the California love Video yeah. I think that mad max and we had like a little bit- steampunk Leah goggles on your head, where it look great on too, but I can tell I mean because number one, the sound would be really cool. Two, the aesthetic would be amazing yeah. I think this is listen. If you want, if you want to do this with us you're more than what is happening around the tour, you can put it off yeah and then we'll just make this. I I move. I I've. I have an uncle who has a line in some brass there we go okay, it's an birthday, stain it with acid an then brass, Michael, my breasts uncle yeah so it's going to be really good. It's going to be really great where you guys going next San, Diego, ok and then you can. It's like touring America for a couple weeks and shown Mexico. Then couple weeks off be the next few months, like just all over the place, Australia. You live most of the time New York, NY yeah. You have a girlfriend, yeah Sweet

having a girlfriend is nicer guys. I got two emails from two of my friends that knew I was doing with podcasts are both girls. I like asking his girlfriend- and I said alright done. Oh wow, I did it so I think you're better than you had two girls. Boston this weekend. Are that character yeah. If you guys are into comic con in San Diego now, but you know we just never been there, although There was a comic. I don't know how well known it is, but we had a day off in Columbus. Oh and there's a comic con going on awesome, walk past a lot of nice super girls,

who are also very super, close yeah girl convention. Well, if you ever get a chance, maybe come out to comic con, we should have a concert at Gamegrumps Desiree's like to be here in this comic book store. I used to be so obsessed with comic books or with your. How was your Bowser JAM issue X, men yeah, I still miss S with X. Men, as you should be. I just always felt like it was the richest batch of characters and it the most social commentary. Yeah yeah, especially the cartoon of our youth, do lily dude, oh yeah, that was great, their entire x men cases here and I got to go. Look through it and I've been wanting to re. Read the age of apocalypse. You guys come Are you familiar with their that was really the pinnacle. I like the old Jim Lee X, men stuff, Jim, hangs out here. Sometimes Jim has yeah yeah yeah. Let me check his office,

Burbank to Burbank. So we're. So when you talk about modern, as in the city, is the city of Burbank, the city of Burbank yeah, That's a real city. I wouldn't consider anything in Burbank to be modern, though your albums in South Hadley, inspired by it on the cars and monologues, we were recordings like very suburban part of Bre Bank. The this is where I'm always a Burbank. What is this does the whole town, but I would always go. Have lunch at this place called full a life? That's like a health food store, the it's a good start in the fifties. I love because, obviously, especially here in LA which is like the whole food capital of the world, to get all these Jews places and stuff- and this is just like straight up old school health food where you get like you know it's a kind of like sprouts, an avocado on health,

red. You know like old school yeah yeah like healthy people, now would never eat and just like such a great five, but that to me that some kind of, like only in Burbank, more Burbank, like large swaths of Burbank, are on touched by like franchise. You know it's like still so many like weird, independently owned. Tron toy Shops bars, ironically, gun shops, yes yeah, except for the one by our offices that fucking like it's ironically, when I think I want to go to chili's, I have to like drive to Burbank or something well because, because by our office, is closer to downtown Burbank, they like near the airport- and there is that giant where there's like the lows, the Starbucks there's like fifty things in one makes the place we want to go to IKEA. You can go there and if you want custom made hat looks just like Indiana Jones is head guys with tiny, yeah, I feel like stuntmen. Hang out in, they probably do it like that,

following in the red that I care just to be like. Yes, the one all right, we're gonna have to Burbank all right. I fun that's an hour that that was our that flies by yeah. Really flows by anyway. I got your chest before you go man. Well, no, no yeah, I'm good! I'm good does that! Does that before now send you guitars they've never gives up sometimes, but it's Don't need him right up the gut the shared and he hasn't happy with they broke, don't fix it! I'm a simple man just fascinated by the being satisfied with the shared it? Has I think thirty get game of the day's been satisfaction, and what does it mean for different people and we've never had a guest? Who is so very,

we tied up the theme of the progress we have everything about and you're exactly right that I mean I know what in your nephew that I mean that's, that is with the from the nephew says. That's why, with above our check it jackets are to being says what is being stuntmen out. Burbank yeah, really we didn't. It would never mention Mick Jagger what I was gonna have. We could have played that at the end, so that's. Ok, let's put it this way. The Devo version. Yet, despite Johnson about the diversion This action is almost as good as the folksmen version of start me up. I don't know from Maine soundtrack to a mighty wind many ways. Michael Mckeon Disney will end on that. Do you have a cover of that of STAR Mia of or satisfaction? No, never never did a stones song, not a bad idea, and you want to get the band over just with a

now and we'll just do it now will send an okay. I I want to know how did you guys get together with the Richard? I wanted to do your video hello, well, one of the first times that we went to London of Like one, our our record labels based in London so that they flew us out. And remember on the way back I heard a little bit about this show mighty Bush and I remember we were all sitting in a row this one we used to sit next to each other on long, plan right, quite the thing back, just like for it, because most people in bands you spend. Time to get. Everybody wants their space on a planet yeah, but this is like us just like these, like for nerds, just like four in a row just on this flight, like sitting next to each other- and I remember I was like oh man will check this- show mighty Boosh and there were two episodes on that they had on the in flight entertainment system, one of which I remember was nanageddon, which is one of my favorite episodes. An

I was laughing so hard that, like the dude behind me had to like be like hey man, I'm eating your like and everybody else watched it and everybody. We all became obsessed, and then we watch it all the time. So we always basically saying to the label did say oh, we need somebody that we're going to do a tv commercial. We need somebody to do the voice over and we'll get somebody from the mighty Boosh and be like. Oh, you need to do a video about. How can we get some different boosts and they have just said with Richard and it was perfect. That's rad he's great yeah number podcasts yeah. I want a cool. Alright every day, every one goal now leaving noticed com enjoy your burrito?