Walk in winter, despotic s number five, forty one. Yes, I'm sick, so not gonna talk a whole lot, because I sound not good shirts funded, listen to India, and I apologise. Yes, I'm sorry for getting sick. I will take that on policies that I got sick just so you know we added a second nervous. Podcast live its annual comecon for shows attempt there. We added a seven thirty joke as the first one is sold out, so please sell out the second one, so I gotta Whelp Scotty Internet. I guess you. I should have been prepared. The oral just sending your comecon twenty fourteen noticed, broadcast live and then google it and then give particular link. I apologise because I'm sick, I have sick brain. This episode is Gary call. Gary call has been in a million and a half.

I his phenomenal actor. I just a cool dude. You kind of remind me of Cranston a lot, so we had a great chat, even the movie called Tammy, which is out in theaters on July. Second, that's: where with Melissa, Mccarthy in it, and well, we know from a brilliant movie or from office space, or you know, as any other million have things that he's done in that area is right. Now the notice by just number five, forty one. It's Gary call sick now mean merely star com

Gary to I have not now nor ever have been a member. Never man are you remember me, wait you're remember the communist member of Peter? No? What's that some of these trials about but I'm glad we know I'm glad. We know you I have a story that involves me approaching you that I'm that I'm sure you that remember- and I am glad because in the back of my head I've, always chalked up as one of my soul. Liberty fails on my part, which is I was doing

voice everything and I ran into you at the isn't it to North Hollywood somewhere languish yet was a voice. Everything ok now came up to you because the previous one oh, are you the island Baker was doing a show with you, first be a rare it and she said I did a love scene with Gary Coal and rob. Might my friend rob really We said man as in Gary Coleman, and I related this, I say to you and you're, like a and before you go yea act as our names or similar and and and so I, but what we can for all the same power doesn't redid ended me. What it reminded me is, when you remind me of that approach someone with a funny story about their name, because it's their name and they fucking know it already. They know it already. They ve heard it a million times and you're, not the first. That is what I was blinded by like I can't believe I've been in the

that was my name, the first, like eight months, I was in Hollywood, every every casting office. It open I'd like to introduce you to Gary Coleman. I mean I'm sorry Garrick, different guy told when I the town in like eighty, I guess what eighty three eighty four, whose first work I did hear he was like huge. Yes, couldn't get no different. Strokes was at the peak of its there is the train that was never slowing down with the king of NBC settlements in them? In that spirit, spin off facts alive money money was flowing and then yeah I had to quickly correct everyone. We know we were always confused.

Probably always the well, although I gotta say probably a good icebreaker and an audition room like I know you thought, but I'm dead, loosen up the robot piece, o h, chuckling shouldn't I'd. You told me to read for this small african american child part or which I, what are you saying, repair you're, really putting limitations on this role? I mean I'm an actor. I you know I can be you know I can. I can be versatile, No eighty three is when you got to us and I did the first well. Eighty four actually was a summer Olympics first by her. I had done one network tv. We back in the heyday of network tv movies net was a year before, but then the first time I've worked here was in actually was the summer. That, though, the Olympics were here in LOS Angeles, I for it was that it was an electric time. Oh it was it was. We still have the Colosseum our way back then. Yes, what was so? What was the I've been a less Anderson, eighteen? Eighty four, I think at some point, but what with the

was that what was the climate of the entertainment, business and nineteen eighty four well at which still pretty I mean there would virtually no cable television. I think there was this upstart. You know channel that everyone laughed at called Fox. I don't even know if they're, what that was around it was basically you know, is three network channels. That was, eighty percent of the movie business was shot in town that's very different than the sacred you be hard pressed. I've worked, I've worked wait a bit in the last couple years in a row grateful for that none of it has been LOS Angeles, so it's very rarity offensive to shoot here, yet not friendly price penalised. I'm in Vancouver I've done the coup. I've done Toronto at the Shreveport. I've done Savannah Georgia than Austin Texas, Prague. Sometimes I wish just in Bulgaria tissue

movie about people in Manhattan, stuck in an elevator that that's why you go to Bulgaria? They got great elevators in Bulgaria, but you're gonna get stuck in one muzzle. Should we re there, but what was Europe? What was your ultimate plan when you did you come out to US interests to be performer or other another resided at or have never had much of a plan, but anything, maybe that's probably my down forward now I was I came from Chicago. I was doing a lot of the urgent cargo and I wound up out here in eighty four, just almost as a fluke resist it. Many series that damn was very close to shooting and they were look. For this role was got fatal. Vision knows about it. A guy named Jeff, Donald two boys convicted of finally convicted of murdering his family was agreed by a doctor. Now the true story

and they hadn't gas this role, but the movie was set to go so I basically was still in Chicago and the cashing director you know, one of those stories, a friend of a friend of a friend flew out here, got depart than just started it hot back and forth for the next four years from shore. Where were you doing, redoing any type of company or theater and sugar I was I Y yeah I had done by had done a fifty fifty each state. I'd done comedy and I had done the dramas at all at so, but when I got here, I virtually kind of fell into the network armor and or when I got here, did the bread and butter of network television? Was these disease of the weaker or women jeopardy movies step they were all over the schedule. They were like. Forty percent of the of the broadcast schedules that that's. I did a lot that what types of what sets of

getting where you getting a roll of anybody that her now I will get somebody that did something horrible to a woman, somebody who is with a woman who had something horrible done to her dying people children dying this time that this disease that disease subtle ok somewhere decently done somewhere, but the kindest thing, I would say the word disposable do you remember your dear member one, were you when you know? I know it's important to work, but this is real, This is the worst. Well early on, and no because I was like I can't. I couldn't believe that the financial return compared to where I had come from you know I was in question to you know, and I know that a great deal of nobility and ever crept into myself period. There

there were few that I just knew were not so much that I knew that that the material itself was whatever questionable, but but that the job I was doing necessary. With this, I wasn't it was early. I was learning a lot and, and sometimes after you work awhile, you figure out how to make things work. That may be questionable, and but there were times early, my career, I didn't know how to do so. They just came off is questionable a bad you, no kind of wincing. You know when you watch them yet, but you gotta through that stuff, because you don't, you can appreciate the good stuff unless you met either, especially in front of a camp. I think you learn sometimes more by doing something and doing it horribly. And looking at a later, oh boy, that I'm not gonna do that again you have, I mean neurons, to learn not with what did not do. If you watch yourself from you know twenty five years ago and you go, there was good, you probably have not grown a lot right, railway performer debt.

Very important. You know I was lucky a few times early and and and also that, a lot of that had to do with good material and good directors yeah. But then there sometimes you watching what was of what was the thing for that you started to feel like everything aligning and I go. This is yeah. This is this kind of clicked. What what? What was that? Well, the first thing I did I was very very lucky. It was very good material and I was with like kind of iconic actors. I was working with Carl Malden and even Marie Saint and Andy Griffith, that's deficit, this time I should appear in and and and had a job, so that was like in was unbelievable to me, and the material was good director was good and so that work well and then later on. I did a series about four, but four years later called midnight collar which had a really good writing staff and for them

sport, really strong, writing and the fact of that great learning environment when you, when you're doing a series and your planet character and I'm a virtually work every day all day, so we just kind of not only. Material was good, but that the amount of work I had to do on a daily basis kind of forest. You into you know figuring out how to be in front of a cat. And survive that way, and you know you know, did did little things like just being relaxed. And yet not forcing things, and so over a period of time. I just got more and more confident that was that was pretty key for me. I think early on that one When I think of you is a performer too, I think of someone who makes really great choices that you got off fuck. That's that's exactly how that character should be like that that guy so did you focus a lot on character, work or was it just like

You know I d sooner, do whatever well I'd choices. Is that's the secret to do anything in plant a character. It's it's to make. First of all, to make choices we had good or bad, but what's worse than then bad choices is somebody playing a character in and it looks like they ve made no choice and it is kind of the no right land. You know. I'd rather see like I'd, rather see a performance. It makes The angry then, then one that makes me board. Right you know domain or just noncom arduous. Like somebody, that's invisible, I you know I'd rather go. I can't believe he's doing that you know, but it's it's it's it's some kind of committed choice and that's what I think the key is is is to go through to go through script and the story, and Is that how this character going to serve the story best and any basic choice it make a? But it's all about that! It's all about you know,

cross entity and daddy I and at how it fits in with the rest of everybody else and also the store itself yet and so with. So I have to ask for four: when Brady Bunch comes along, how does that I mean is obviously the approach they took that which, with is the in my mind, the only way they could have a protein at project correct the only way they relative done that So did you have a sense of that going in or are you ok, you I knew and and and as soon as and I had known Betty Thomas, I had work rebate hours before she directed me once before, and I d just Newark from neutral friends, and this debt scripted been floor. I heard about that script for years. It was rumours about, can do a bit much movie and the first question, let it be what is its and and why Why were they to be, but Firstly, they they wanted day. They wanted a kind of a blue.

Of all those other actors that they wanted. People to remember all those corks up all of those specific People- Robert Wreath warrants Henderson Eve Plot Oliver and that's what Betty set out to do, there, and it was also shot the same way. You know yet at any time, were in the house, you had this kind of washed out white plan flat. Look, You know with the astroturf lawn and and all it s often in when you went outside it was all different it was like a monster movie that they were. You know they. They were Left in the seventies and everybody else, it moved ahead and everybody you saw them get were worth almost frightened by them for their. Where shall we go? at the end, that was there, but that was the best idea to just do it and try to redo them in like have everybody regard them as normal all the other people would have been a big mistake and I I it think it would have been. It would not know that it would have been particularly watchful hot on any less so

make a choice of what was your? What we have always your approach to the two might like what was what was his? Why? What? When I I I did a watch, multiple episodes, which was you know, which was a task unto itself. But I started to notice that his big thing was they always TIM with the moral of the story kind. I think you know Gregg if you you know. If you do a than be will happen. It was the sixties and he was the dead right right exact, but he was too sitcom dad and he had the answer, tat everywhere every dilemma, but he also had I started to know This kind of you would think it was. It was a very distinct delivery, buddies. He had some kind of he could he could but five syllables in a word that had one I mean he was that were enough and so on

try to get something going with that and then, as the script started, a role and in a kept giving him more of these moral of the story, things that made absolutely no sense whatsoever. The goal was just probably to make him has as as vacant and clear as possible and yet on the outside seem totally confident just its. Platitude wanting LOS Ang these absolutely you absurd gibberish, but he he's very confident and did you did you hear me rubber reed was the alliance and became out here. Did I think he now he had? No, he had passed away, probably well before the movie did. I can't remember when we did. Sherwood short shorts was a which was a presence, though, on the set he came. A hundred years old. He was very, he was at the time, I think I'm not sure he was in his name. Yet. I think it was like ninety ninety one he was right would come, and he would tell stories about a mile in and he was

He had a really really enjoyed himself and it was great to have him there, because we could just you know. We could ask him about and we actually shot the first movie on in the same stage where they they shot at Paramount. So it was like a there were sooner, but he's kind of very that that that show what sort of the begin king of yapping this business get real fucked up an ex. Sometimes it can happen publicly like it. It really was sort of the start of that era of the black starting to yeah, like all tv people they're, not some of them are not the normal and always to be let you had some the beginning of some media coverage. Media entertainment. Early seventies, other government on its sixty, nine and all of those kids and they work kids when they started.

They really. You know they are grew up in front of the camera, which is is not an easy thing. I'm sure to do. They were all like at least I think, berry and then Maureen were probably baby fourteen when they start breezy time to have that kind. And of a show when, essentially the world is like flipped on its head right, Culturally, Dane Shit is happening or a new look. I mean you look at it. You look at television in you know from like just starting and like sixty, eight or something you know did the countries is fire literally and we're watching. I dream the Genie and my favorite martian, you note total fantasy. You know justice escape,

complete, escapism ban. Also, you know I'm sure kind of driving. I mean that next wave of television it came after it was in I'm assuming just a complete re. That none of our people have more shades to their personalities and those that whole Norman, Leir AIR. Sure television like well, you can say what they read the brain, but we don't know that we see if a family, you know a for lack of a better word mixed family yeah there or from Vienna. He had his group, he had his brooch, Had hers I don't know, I don't remember what the situation was worse with their other spouses. I don't think they mentioned the word. I don't bigger was divorce. I don't know what I dont today did where they both widowers, I guess maybe they were probably, I guess, measured. Ninety sixty nine embargo yeah, let's hook up by just divorce. My for now, you're gonna get the three really annoying kids area, a husband drinks in Iraq and won't shudder at whatever I got on about that. But yeah yeah,

that really was? There was a new and now severally wasn't knew when it actually in a way, what sort of way culturally forward thinking, because its detail with the idea of a broken family coming together around a new family yeah. But I guess I didn't have to carry the stigma of broke. Now they were grieving families. They were internally, they were broken right on the outside. Everything was groovy yeah. I got an unambiguous, a dark darkshire arc. If you look just under the surface, yes, we were just ultimate. Subject of the movie, is like there is. This was dark which isn't? What would you do want to spend time doing a secondary role being underneath the depths of the Brady, but that is a way What is it? What types of? What are you guys? like I just like to work and in what it whatever it is, I'm just like just give it to me and I, like worker, doo doo, seek out specific types of of roles. I I mean This point. No, I mean I'm really just kind of reacting to what's real or, what's you know an opportunity for me, I think,

have you no over the years you try to develop some kind of you, no bullshit meter in terms of what you think you can but you could do well and what you think is gonna fall on its face, no matter what you do, so you just go. The way that I bid you I've been real, fortunate and stressing the last four years is to be is too will find myself winding up, not only with really good material, but really good people working with and and that's you know. I mean as it s kind of a journeyman act. That's dead! That's all! You can hope for this abashing. No four! So you do. Do you believe that its you? It's like, I was just a never ending press and everything is everything's inexperienced I mean, do you feel like you have stuff figured out or does it seem like now? None of you too well. Mean? Do you you have you, a body of work to draw from, and you have experiences to draw from that help you when you're working, but you

continually. I think if you pay attention, that's that's the key is paying attention and having the energy to pay attention when you are working, you can You can really learn a lot. I met a situation now that will end on a show weep with Julia Lui Drivers, which is done totally differently than most television have ever done. I mean it's, it's every scrip we get, we have a table red, then they throw the script away and and we get up and we just kind of move through every scene without the script and improvise it and started you know tweak it, then it did it Morse into a bunch of different forms, Then the writers go away. They either take some of that. Don't mix it up, we come back and I've got another script again. We do the same thing over again, oh my god, so it's just a cut its late and have only in any lemonade and even when were shooting that process on a smaller level is taking place and were

or just even foreseen, isn't working for or even if it is why but they want something else out of it then did it will be on the set on the day? It will be manipulated. In turn around we go, which is true, some in some places, but most of the time it's like once something his the paper and Those are the words in in one hour drama or even a comedy, it's late! That's it you just you make those Hell or high water and that's not that's not to situate and she's in it. I just think she's amazing in and but she's in its own right now we're that she should like I think she's been in his own, for like the last thirty years. I mean it's fucking, crazy. You know she now her level. The combination of of her ability.

And her her work ethic it's it's lethal and who gets the three hit critically acclaim shows like one right after the other. That's for it. So I mean that's that's when you really start to go like oh yeah, it wasn't a fluke was there was hurried cheese, not a fluke whatsoever. She's she's got the good and so do You know, do you? What's your work ethic and turn of like I do you leave it? Can you leave it at the studio or you go home and pour over? or how do I rarely pour over, and that is where When I hear rap for the day I know that's, there's does there's not a lot of pouring okay. So really so you can, it can be like a giant I've. Never I've! Well, yeah. I've never been you no kind of. It never seems to me that it's it's some kind of lingering thing to me,

I think that when you're not in the act of working, it's it's just, you know it it's on hold until you started again, but that's not you ve everybody that that that dumb descended that's does away. That's Whitfield! the main? How many times a week. Do people shout office space quota? Is it? Is it a thousand Are we learned man, whereas a revenge where every five minutes contained space airport I'll here a lot more because you're there and you're not going anywhere without emotion that? Do you get out of place? No it it! It's it's pretty amazing that that movie is kind of lasted this lock. Is that right now? That's like it! that's what it at fifteen. You ve driving like fifteen yak, seniors death, and so was that what was that process like was it all was approved, was might judge like here's the script or was he said you know do say goodbye Do you character, let's play with it or real? Now it was very specific.

Is specially well office. Space is actually based on too little short animations that he did but The which only had my character and Milton member them from HIV Mike fast rise yeah in one in one there's another. There is actually a smaller character of delivery. Guy with a hand, truck did MIKE also voices yet, and he did all the voices for both characters. So so my when I went into meat for it. I had that he had sent out these animation, so I just wanted. You know, and I looked at it and I did I decided right. That's why can't? I can't do it better than this. So I'll do this I'll? Just you know Imitation of this, I'm assuming that's what they want to have happened, and I was correct. My subjects so yeah- I just I just based on on what he did and so the rest of the movie he wrote

around those two characters, so how China? But I guess it right, It sounds to me without really knowing you at all, but just a kind of sounds to me like you have probably there this attitude of the type of business or just like you got guy joint work our car and then I don't think about it. When I leave, because you can't just like we'll office space, you can't know that that is going to become a movie that his permits Guard pop culture for fifteen years. You don't know, what's gonna be a hit or what people are never going to see? No, but what you can have it? What would you can know- and out of you could know it, but you can have an instinct about and everyone in a movie did they all knew that it was it. Good. They all knew it was something that day would watch and that made them laugh all of the actors in the more we were up talking about a great MIKE was and how specific the characters were. But you never know, you never know movies. How, if a boobies gonna break through or have an impact to push people's buttons you're, not gonna, know any until it until it does or does so. It was

yeah. It was you know, but it was certainly a pleasant surprise that either did a hung around as long as you did. I was there ever talk of like let's do more of these is, there was I'm sure, studio after not not initially, because it didn't do it didn't really do well at all the it got off the hook only because it didn't cos. Lot to make? So it didn't really lose money, but it did make any money initially and then it started to have this. You no kind of life afterwards. That was about the time also- and I think that the business of of dvds- and you know it sailed to were to pay television of that that was peeking and then it is able who is able to how snowball from there I mean who would have thought that there was not that there has been a great help to know what the take on the merchandise from this movie is, but there is de facto

is merchandise period here about a movie about guys, walkin around an office in and people selling staplers off its shelf because from a movie that's nobody. Nobody would have thought that, but it was heart. Yeah I mean it was. It was hard to know at the time. What's your favorite part of the process is the actual cost. The thing that you, the thing that you do the thing is your profession. You actually do the least, which is action. You're on camera. Acting like that, I feel, like you, spend the least time doing the thing that you actually are the most train to deal probably through. So what is it? What does that's? Why it's a bizarre business, that's fucking, weird you! you're waiting waiting to be enterprises, it alive If it is it's, it's that's gonna, where the somebody you know I guess insanity comes from. If you want to call that, but I don't know I mean it's just you know it's just been. I think,

when to when you are working grateful for when you are and real seeing that it. You know that when you are working. It's not a given. You know, That's what I realize pretty early night I had successfully. I was young and I worked a lot, but there still were times when all of a sudden you, which is it just which stop you know, and I would just like you're, not you know, there's just do just there is no next thing. You know, and you don't know what the next thing is going to be and there's periods of time. That that would that would linger, and so that's when it gets, you know a little dicey about. What's you know what's going on, but that, with anybody was in any kind of free lance business. Anybody that's you know me stuff, reliving that their selling I mean, you know that they're gonna have up and down time, so it s kind of year, but still it's like, and it's only recently started to change a little bit, because people can ultimately you can.

Make something and put it on. The internet. Church is well which kid can work or cannot work, but I feel like and other businesses Oh, it's not necessarily like I'm waiting for someone to tell me that I'm good enough to be in this thing- and I dont know when that's gonna, be because the right. Well, there's three yeah, but I mean there's yeah I mean it. You know somebody put in a good way to me once did a good boy, I'm sick of waiting for permission to work with you, but that's you know that that's one way, there's out of people, and you know that they take into their own hands, you know and its. I think it's even true, true or now than it used to be. Even though there was you know that mavericks that did that actors. Up here just started to create their own material, but I think now, because of all of it, all of the resources and in technology and exact exam

as you know whether we set Rogan than and his partner Evan Gaubert, who wrote pineapple, express a million other movies and in our are got the permanent office at Sony. Pick as an urgency, no bread, one booby after the in he was like money, did Pineapple Pineapple Express a. We was twenty one when it was twenty five point, pictures opt in August, I was still roman around bars in Chicago NOS twenty five and when he was eighth grade he had ever goober were writing movie. Shooting them on their little digital phones or whatever and editing there met at home You know what I was when I was an eighth grade. I was throwing cherry bombs into the creek and watching the blow up. So I mean it's a different. You know life experience, there's a window, they had found, they had a trunk load of material already. That they were ready to you dreaded Gonna put in the marketplace and they broke through now

for every story like that. There's a hundred other ones is, did just never never get an office door but day. You know he didn't He didn't do it, the you know, I mean he's starting on the tv show, freaks and geeks, but beyond that he was able to generate his own career Yeah, you know and not wait for permission except for amateurs will different way for mission, but somebody to green light his material right, but once that happened then he cannot. Rina road is on taken. So what what are you? Where? Would you like to do off time. Do you do nothing or do you? Well? I had I mean in the meantime you know life happen. Family. I had a daughter. Did no voice. Is twenty years old now, so that was a great deal of time devoted to her her life and her needs, and all of that- and it still takes

I see the notions twenty one, but that doesn't and the changes in morphs into something else. But the you know, and I've been in the last few years. I've been I've been pretty busy, so we know with the mix of that they pretty much in a pretty much each it all up does deserve Essex go from there. The thing that thing like you're, working on, deepen and with an eye on Monday or do exist last couple years that has been that has been true. I been on deep deep is about five months a year. I was, I was at the same time was also doing and still am here and there recurring role on the good wife last year I had a little thing on suits for another few: this summer. Been doing it like. I don't already like five or six independent films, all the different on one hundred and twenty one and Austin, and one's going to be here one's going to be

even so it actually has yet I've had time in between each but not a lot. You know just weeks time, so I been, you know, been able to keep busy clover. How do you view success? Would you say I made it. I am successful because I'm working all the time or do you go while I really want to come and do this thing before I feel like aha, or do you not even think about that? loaded word. I think, specially in this business, because you'd enough, it means financial effort means, like number can mean it can mean all of that, but it did you know I do I just base. I just go with reality. You know manner. I mean a enviable position for a lot of action I'm on a show that people to give a shit about the that is really good and has you know, has some kind of a claim that way

and that is lasting, which is even you know the most important thing so that to be is you know four, where I M sitting in my career that that's I would I would define that is somewhat with success. Sure yeah. What do you think that it's just I just such a weird business, because it please is upon a lot of people's insecurities just because of the amount of rejection or just the amount of judgment or the amount of, but it also seems to attract people that Praetor to be really scared and insecurity need validation, and I like it, really like a just the worst mix of of two Well, I think I don't know, I think, there's a lot of if, if you, if you look at the need that the most important to me is

before someone seeks out some kind of survival in the business? I would say a talent sure very helpful, but If, if there is no desire to two too need to perform You know, for whatever reason, some intangible reason you must perform. You must see the store and you ve gotta, be a part of it to tell it. If that isn't kind of really out front, then it's it's. I don't know it's it's not it's did the foundation is, could be shaky now people can you know they can be incredibly talented and have succession and really dont like doing it at all. Like a lot of people, don't like their jobs, but they make a great deal of money at the net. Do you know that all happens, but I think over the law term. Anybody, that's gonna, have longevity in the business has embraces that kind of

insanity, if you will love of of the you know the bidding of the rejection of it d, the kind of you know seemingly unfairness of it, but but there is no what what fair, there's nothin, fair and that's true with everything right. I think that You know as long as you, if the knee, if that's the need up front, is the need to do this. The survival to perform, then all the business and of it you call it show business. If you got the show, if that's really what you got your core, then you know used you tolerate the business. You survive the business that that stuff, a worker is I'm ever talking to kids at at at at when a thing in asking about well. What do you know that the public eye, and this and Adam I would add that that's your board, where do you get your pictures or haughty, who

Is it about who you know and all other is, and I said, that'll work itself. If you really want to do this, if you had, if there is no, if there is no plan b, if this is- land ay, and there is no plan b, which I believe for a lot of people is the only way to survive, and then that's impossible most. They all at other stuff is just another. That's that's stuff. That'll work itself, some of counter a tutor. I feel brand grants a big. Same thing. He said there was no plan b. I just knew if I had to live in an apartment with further guys that this was well, I was gonna details. You clarity. Let's put it that way. You know. If you say I mean I mean it s, what I remember acts and actually saying the words when I was twenty years old in college, and I had no. I was in blooming ten Illinois. I had not been anywhere near anything that resembled the business whenever I was in college, but I had

You know a fair amount of work for my age and terms being on stage. Not that any, but was any good, but I had you know: I'd been an environment. I liked it. I needed to be there and I just gonna, be my brain said. You know what I'm twenty years old, but I met a man for the duration and it doesn't matter, I'm not going anywhere else, don't want to know, and everything else did lead to sure I had a good jobs and all that stuff, but it was always in my mind, knew it was temper. I didn't embark in any kind of other career path, mainly because I had certainly no qualifications at any other career breath centre interesting that it's almost some people would say. Well, it's risking. To have a plan b, but I guess another point of view that it is risky to give yourself back up plans, because then, if this, Can things are going well you're like bail well, but that I think that's the moment of of clarity that people have an eye.

You know I've, not people that I did. I know we're talent, really talented, that that's how they do, They didn't, they put a talk, they put their one foot in the pool and ages just said I'm enjoy this, but who are not just looks. I have visions of their food in a closet- and I dont want sharks at the end of that body bags. And you know they whence they went elsewhere. That's that's cool, but but I think you're right. I think it's, I think, on some level is helpful to just say, as it does but my head down I'm gone through this fence and I am now looking back. What is it? you see. We know when you know especially fear because you're pretty set with deep, but when, when these usage in a bunch of independent someone is independent else, come in what is it that you look for like what what that pops about something for you that makes feel like I'm anywhere. You always look immaterial first and you look at you know an interest in this climate. It

these. You look at that. You know how much how much is nothing. You know you say you have no Jimmy, but no one- everyone says that now or low money cause there's a difference, knit also yield look at. That doesn't mean you just have a bigger one. Apart with only that mean I mean if, if, if, if people ask you That is what we all would like you to pay us. Yet you probably want to deal with outside a good provision, so you do look at that. You know and then the same. Then you look at you look at the people involved. You know you look material and then you look at people. Sometimes you look at people first and a fear that jazz about the people that are due in the project and you you know you admire people for a long time in and want to collaborate with them. Then that signals you know your choice seem like the kind of guy to me that could do like a huge blockbuster movie, but then all of a sudden, you know some get kid right out of college. Would send you a script that you were like this.

Really interesting? I'll just come to your move, because it looks neat well IBM I made out a d, it all it all wines up in the same place. Amino did you're gonna be watching it on your couch, whatever it is or not so it doesnt yeah that that, whatever whatever firemen, their whatever size of a project. Doesn't really does it really necessarily mean a thing: it's it's. What do you think it's gonna work. Ultimately, you know it's a guess beforehand sure, but you know over time you you cannot get it in instinct of what you know what will be successful and what could lead to You know a lot of egg on your feet and how do you do if you ve ever? You made choices before warrior like I think I've got egg on the face, How do you can a process that you just

well, what's uranium in I mean that's got such a document are well yeah, that's part of being professional. You choose to do some. You choose to accept some. You gotta, you gotta, deliver what, even if you, even if its painful to do so, you know You know when you try to be a successful within that, as I have not been anything where I was just wireless natural, but it was for other reasons, I have not been in a situation where, where I was just continually wincing, all the time, God, oh my god. I can't leave. I'm doing this. You know I am able to like me. You know block it out or whatever

I wasn't one situation was. I could not believe that the, but it had to do with the it had to do with the inexperienced her, but of a crew that basically never done a movie before, and I didn't realize that and it wishes we were. We were spending five hours on something that should have taken twenty minutes that that was a little. You know that was a lover rattling, but I got through that was. It was mercifully short, so dead, men, thirty thing other than acting in the business that you would want to do or have done I've dabbled in and I may be now at some point before I croak I've been dabbling. Writing a few things that I'd like to know just gonna. Weird bits and pieces of a character in a store. I've gotta my head over a long period of time. And maybe you know if I ever get

over my laziness. I will put that altogether. I don't know that I will do I don't know, I think, I'd probably better off with somebody else actually directing its his eye. I have never directive banning but to put to put some elements together. One time would be a goal for me and do you think they have peep? I mean. If you like, people must have approached me before like do you want to do this? Are we thought about doing this and you gonna go get to it? You made it. Europe is something other than perform here, a few times but not a lot. I have been approached with you know, like other. You know like anything to direct, not really you know it's been most of the time that when this, if I ve got a script in everyone's goes scrip, you know right. I'm right right as those good just walk in a Starbucks you gonna get screw up. One of my be really good wrote the neighbour earlier so nicely Britain LOS Angeles. Thirty years now use deliver. Yet, what's your favorite part of l, a favorite part of it

way. Well, I don't know I guess I'd have to you know: I'd have to shoot, say the neighbourhood I live known and also the neighborhood. You live, and you could you say your neighborhood ATO S. Out of a deal I have to say I'm wondering is that my favorite part of L aired coming to think I'm in a like it, but others too soon, but two or other studios, its studio, the city of all the studios. Let's go net dollars just just because you want an answer, say to look alike it is nice that really can background over the last ten to look alike in Holloway. They do it up right, it's crazy! super neighbourhood. He over there were in its inner city. That does not have that I don't think of LOS Angeles is being neighbour hoodie. I know there are neighborhoods, but I really think of it as I do

but that little positive of suited at into look alike like veto people come out. Kids can run through the streets this source trees on the street, not plenty a parking Bob Hope from air come up and get it. They lived and died there. He owns a lot of it through Berlioz, all of it took a lot of it from people were put mid term in camps in the nineteen forties. I heard that was true. I dont know. If that's true, I heard that was true Katy! Look it up, no judgment there. Nobody look it up. That's just what I heard and, as Bob Hope is, here to defend himself. We may never know Bob Hope, but and Bob Hope and property real estate Bob hope real estate. Just I just did heard that there was a lot of property that were seized and stirring certain period in american history and that some people were able

We require that property for very for very low money. Ok, good! I Bob hope it's not true. Is it ok to say that the turkish state, we're. Just did a good there's a mean. It's ok. Skagway just means, I said it I really I love to look like there's something about it. Just to look alike still feels the area in which I mean it's a filling the era in which it cropped up. Yet we don't have a lot of you know it's city. This large, I feel like allay, should have more culture than I feel like it. It has done. Is it that the beauty of airline allay. What's our identity, what do you think of anything of airline things it should have, but that doesn't ring because we're all longing for something well, my parapet nozzle has this idea that you know

that has as idea that Ella is actually not a beautiful city, goes no. Whenever people say that never say whatever people say, always a beautiful city there, looking up the sky do not looking at the city, they just mean the weather is very naive or their wearing shorts in January that, within its beautiful developed, a very lucrative look up January, fourteen that I've gotta windbreaker just look up of above all the crap and that that litters the streets, but in general, because, like blade runner from and you are also in molasses movie, yes, which is its upcoming at this weekend July second July seconds, I'll be all the better. The big for the gymnasium movie wholly one but actual yet he's yours. You got the winds they before July, for that's a big one! To have trade fair. Impressive, Melissa, Mccarthy, great Nobody gets that spot God damn. I knew Melissa when went by Missy and she was appear on her cousin, Jane

Mccarthy Sketch Comedy share out. And I remember the time thinking like what your view Funny why're, you appear, and it is likely that somewhere now she is she's out fire funding. She's like that she's she'd, like Julia she's, leisurely funny, and in this movie she, Sir, she's out of control, but because at the premier yet another there is actually, I believe, on Monday, the thirtieth that he's let's this month, you like Premier sure I mean I'm here? I'm not! I don't. I don't know anyone. It goes like. He can't wait to go to the full should a clear photos thing it's gonna be like now, which fights fine, it's fun. I think I think there are weird they still

You may well there's just it's very it's just it's a lot of. You know that It's too it's the coverage, its and its fine, it's great for the business all. But it's it's like it's like a frenzy. It's like a mini, almost polite frenzy. There's a lot of you know lot of hubbub shouting and a lot of flashing lights in and you no kind of chaos getting into you know any getting in and out of any of these places, but it's good for the movies, but what you read, niches watch a movie and a new, no hanging out its party and dislike taken against, but them out there that the carpet phenomenon of where that's gone in the last twenty years is it's it's a little its little surreal, not that I have all that much knowledge of red carpet. Believe me, I did my time on them has been limited.

It's it's you, but you burn out, I'm sure it's an honor me other there. There they make me really uncomfortable, I don't feel like. I'm ever posing the right way. You feel like you're, going to go into a weird seizure, because what what would be the right way? I mean I don't know, although you she's having these women, that our debt there there like data, they have a death, they make definite choice. I don't think anyone feel comfortable in a red carpet because its personnel, but you can look on you- can look comfortable and seek to be near. There are those who do not that do not do either, I think I do neither but that's fine, it doesn't matter and in either a look of double or our. I don't do this for red carpet. So it's fine like I can. I can be uncomfortable them, I just they. Actually, I think the more you do it then the less it effectually that because it so limited time I've been on them. Although I've been on them in it, but it it's just you know you do you know what you keep waiting for? What happened, but

voting in favour of the time when the Oscars, where it like you, know decades ago, slick they just got together like in a hotel conference room, and that was it maybe a couple snow, shots and then and then they then they went home. It was no, you know it wasn't it did they didn't get you know, consumed by the the there I know that there was no machine like there is now this me of this entertainment coverage of just what the just in the argument. If they ask us, no, I mean I can feel like. Maybe it wouldn't be fun, it's feels like If I'd depends who you were you know I mean I guess if you are nominated for two awards, probably pretty fun, but I dont know if it would be fun, then that would just be strategies have to I mean, but it's all its also much just kind of you know it is just like you know. What do you think so? I mean I've. I've had said to me, and I regret this- was it so you tell me what I should be saying to you. I'm sorry, so

you already, I say you have to go from there, please I don't I'm scared and I don't know what I'm so task. Literally with that It was a word sometimes just you know, or as the visual these big. Wow big. I'd office back to say a thing that they associate you era and then you're supposed to go like yes right- that was rule is a thing that happened. It's Zorro what happened and how excited are you supposed to be? That's the other thing. I mean how really literally excited you know. Sometimes there are great leaps forward in our nation moon landing or the hour the founding of democracy, and I think this night ranks right

Andy. Forty eight sag awards right up there with Neil Armstrong. First step of the lunar landscape is equal to me that I am that excited. I could be it a space you right now and I have everything figured out yes endeavours your grades, and then I will yes, I went after the awards. O the night will just go on forever and glorious it will be for all of us will I'll Basque and bliss. Will prevent us who work best people ever said: I've got forty five minutes without someone telling me how great I am, I think it's where'd it feels. Where does it feel? Where do you feel swear to me because I dont this is argued. I survived this torment, I'm so great. I didn't realize that no one who told me I was great for forty five minutes. That's our humble! I am you get over it. Well, it was really great to have you in the past to Katy to some. You have to rapidly during a bunch press today gives repressive and I've got well. I'm India, I'm gonna, run a bit of a cat.

So you, and that you and your on the press on the clock about the clock, carpet or Garrick. All please take your bliss perfection out into the world and continue to do a wonderful Yes, please our brains greatly as you go, go out among the great unwashed and see However, I will survive Albert brave of me. Let them get any of their net. What I love about me, what about you? What do you think about me? I can't stop thinking about how wonderful it is for you to be talking to me right now. I mean for you cause. You were really doing. A Hollywood rides how good for us, and although you who get to witness the two thousand what teams of coal and hardware blissful perfection is No, it's called we just reek of privilege night you who are you

actually listened to gold but here it is boring. Interior India fountains. How lucky were you liquid or I'll go the other stuff or even as we too back into your lives. Your pathetic live. When you remember that, yes, you are but ethos, but how lucky are you two key areas like Xerxes across the desert, your lives, which are- Drab Harrison two hours carriers very expensive cargo shorts at the moment There are nice maroon a mirage, We could not avoid appearance. I did you bring home. Now is a good place, then Erica, enjoyable, everyone s leading, noticed, com