The very talented Jack Antonoff chats with Chris and Jonah! They have a deep conversation about death, prioritizing what is actually important in life and how they cope with the anxiety of their careers. They also talk about the new Bleachers album and how Jack writes the songs and chooses where they go within an album!
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she's the life only there was only the enemies, her as she's prowling around the country on the phone comfortable. This episode is Jack, Antin off who is promoting the bleachers album strange desire, Jack in the band fun.
He is he's such a nice man. He saw night. It was crazy, like that was just everyone with what embarrassment I mean, not just nice, but it will. We gonna, say you say and scale trained, because I left out you'll see us real change.
solid bent and yet very introspective guy super kind of
deep fellow super tie would say, but I enjoyed having a mom, and so I will have a back again at some points. Thanks Jack, it's enough and I believe, he's just gigantic off on Twitter. So follow
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creatures and into this, was a sign like this was a sign for their display of horses and grasses own. Even yours I know, but my ex girlfriend was from two sites. We should go there all the time a euro does the web address. I've been there for a legal base. Yeah it's like you
but if I had to call the museum- and we like, can I use this picture for an album cover and they were like what what's the content
You know some of our continent is a little swearing near
and I think
we say,
were merry like to take up other has like
Oh all right. Everyone was tobacco, christen MIKE
Yet so anyway, that's a back sadness.
Talk about my old county groups, Jack we're here to talk about when we talk about Jack today, has gone good. How are you Craig at brick, just pretty guided
eleven of Embed Mcgovern Utter Appendix out, and I've been in bed Christianity covering for three days straight line, and you know when you take time off and instead of incipient like relaxing
strange. Yes, it strange, because it's the momentum of all the times that you were not relaxing all the sudden yeah to a sudden stop and
you're, but someone else's account the air, your body, slamming into itself totally like one of you, are sending cupcakes of illegally blow
yeah I'm guide our cupcakes good for an appendix out. No people don't think about that kind of stuff, specific flowers and fuel cells.
Our citizens like what you do with flowers. What are they doing? Good appendix that's
exactly one thing or the other one known junta. Do. That makes this a lot of crap Johns on third, pretty that's good enough! It's expensive enough that it looks like we tried I've. Never I was not.
That way like I never sent a thank you card. I've never sent as the years you're looking really terrible I've. Never it's ok, you're, making a thing.
Card fairly says about the secular thing, because some people are like some purely ghettos and Viking Gavin ass. This
Why would bother to ever I've? Never of you. I have here
raise like that, if someone Segura venom food apparent didn't do that
me, I give them a hollow. Let me know if you need an idiotic attacks all the time you I think you know what it's like. Ok, can you run by the store and pick up some home? I've done a pupil of call. My bluff and I've had to man up like like that's manning up, want to drive across our for someone else's soup. Manning up is like
a bare like not gonna, like a modern man. Ok gadget living summit arrived when you ve been inconvenience that event
her appendix burst or without always think up precautionary is like a pre emptive. Ok remove
something, is wrong or write. It wasn't like what are you just take this out now? What happens like there's a couple days off? Let's do this. It was a good idea, good it I mean doctors, you do what they say.
general yeah, but it did. It will dig this conversation going where my dream in life we just sort of what happened to her. Is that I'll go to the doktor and I'll do look all over the place and then her like say
it's this and then he'll. I put his on me and very, like you're gonna start feeling a lot better
is. Don't you feel like shit, it's like.
Right right there's something wrong with the right. Do you wish a doctor would be like we found the thing yeah and you're gonna start feeling a lot less tired
a lot was weir's one, weird hair on your shoulder and if we pull it out all in TAT way, I knew that was something that everyone feels wherever unfilled, herbage. Well,
There's that there's gotta be something better. Will the reason that everyone feels like garbage is because a year ago we did. We don't take time to none.
be plugged into something at all times, like your attention is being sapped,
all day long you're having to focus on things all day long and where my
to Lee exhausted mentally exhausted. So I think, that's probably all in your case to your busy with work shit to give any figure life becomes your life than like you stopped. I stop thinking about touring, assign them makes me tired.
break arts, my body right, so I just think about the fact that, like do, I have like doing mano bread. Is there something on? Can someone help?
Is there anything that anyone can do here and that's why a lot of people are addicted to pills in things like a lot of money, unlike injections and stuff, like be twelve,
I guess it worded in I don't know I think so I don't think it does.
I think I can go pretty energetic with it. When I get em done yeah did you get the one that makes you feel like you? You paid yeah mainly in the area,
the noise and there's another one with apes and puts knock this alone. It yeah. I do all that stuff cause egg is getting injections of whole foods. You probably good
It's a get out well in some of these injection places are premature, cyclist, mumbo jumbo stuff, but you know, but I think it works you. Nobody really great would be Hug Jackson's where someone could just transfer
Whatever you, minerals are needed from their body. That suggestion is yeah how's your login and there's fluids yeah. So that's like little
milk. This dirty little bedroom
to a baby with. So it's ok for you
here today and I added it is the tail end of it? Ok, good but its, but if we are to have time to do nothing, it makes you feel worse monument.
people say can make you feel bad everyone watching anything. I watched the
can't open girls. I heard that shows real good cigarette juggler,
I commend Rio, no job here. Is it no chapel nod and others? One he's like, apparently like the biggest dude like right now, boys been taken out at all. He was arrested, but it like an appendix yeah: that's where they got
our descendants documentary film, which its great that's great great, but that's like nothing really like
not only that it happens. I think you know it's like the guy ends of getting like oriented. It's a fan only documentary it really is. If you want photos you haven't seen yet it just call. Yet it just really really cool. I enjoyed your good sir
in the affair, how is that they just got picked up for a second seasons or must have been good? It's ok! I don't like they do this thing. It makes me fucking
easy where they being cursory. It means you fucking crazy, innocent fucking coming, but where they like half the episode is his respected and the other half is her perspective, which is sort of any the idea right. But in every time they switch perspectives. Not only two different things happen
and it's not even like a subtle way like people seeing things ever in a totally different things happen, and there were indifferent close. So
don't understand, it's hardly like my element of like science fiction actors are waiting at our black and the other one bit of seneca that if that well, I think, maybe that's just a way to further change like to further
The idea of just how wildly different perspectives can be the bugs me and Britain
Mcnulty in it and I we see him as a it's. Ok,
TVS, weird, it's weird time anti, because if I could watch anything, sometimes it's there. It's you know the days of just sitting on the couch and letting
whatever's on hit you in the face I haven't had that no real,
long time, usually procedural anymore. No everything is like a dream.
Invested and everything is an art, now suffer lawn order. That's why it continues to be just such a power. I dont think its own any more than one of em Anthea s not monitor. Nor did I is, are the loan orders don't go as we assume that this actual night special victims units it is excellent that the sex crimes on me? I haven't seen that whenever watch
I haven't seen that when but boy I remember the days of when I had all the free time in the world which I don't miss but
some like through a forlorn orders, and maybe a few quantum leap in the USA Channel, not thinking about which emphasise gonna be just watching it I wish SAM could,
leaped into Jack, Mccoy that have been really fun fun, but I know
see that cross over happening now, since both chosen not happening anymore but anyway.
SAM Water sin or scrap accuracy into the park as and you have control over
that ip, then
means, let's make it happens, present haven't tried to bring it back. What Quantum leap here, that's a show that should come back. You watch
We know that people want to back yeah. I really only with it.
Show alarmingly nineties.
Early. Now. Ireland is very late eighties, early nineties, good. Why are you thirty? Thirty two? There was no help at all of the lot. He looked about thirty. My appreciate that your birthday be forty three nice, dear you're
There's some Sunday yeah yeah Sunday has outfielder. Well, was forty a big deal? Thirty nine was a big deal.
I understand that I think thirty ones would be a big deal yak as its mass aim recent. What because it's like it
thing is coming, but then, once you turn it than you like bout area, can stop I'm. Ok, I'm ok, you and I think it is. You know it's funny, because I think
it's just whatever this idea built up in my head about
You know where you, when you start to approach it when you start going like oh yeah, I don't have all the time in the world. Yet there is an end point to everything, and so that's
ahead trip and then just these preconceived notions we had about our parents generation and what it means to be certain ages and these ideas
We put our heads negotiating twenty years after that. I think I hope he s only twenty three
and then it is easier for man though it it's, it was with the children conversation the UK. We could potentially forever
you have a lot of time. Yet Tony Randal was having kids well into a seventies. Jesus
and so
so live like Tony Randal is a lesson for today is returning it but it, but I think that you know it is weird its bid is. It is strange, but philosophically you know I look at it like a wall
I am in better shape and doing better in my life than I ever have been, so that should be good within your like yeah, but the number so disorder adenoids it sort of yeah, it's weird thing and they are dying lots where thank you do I can you know
how do you know? How do you want to die, and why do we have to
even in the most square way like I would love to dislike,
during a scandal marathon, yet during scanned the marathon- and you know it like a long long time from now to sort of like drift off or you know what with em
I love surrounding in it in fact find blaze of shit, like you know like
like when I'm on an airplane, I feel very scared when I'm an airplane would like all the people that I would miss if, if we're dead or whatever, I'm not scared anymore, let's interested soda she'd be nice of light.
I was a hundred, and then we were taken like they were. Take me
and a family vacation celebrate Mylife right,
and on those tramp media self is at the same time, and on this trip we all went down together, there are taking on their taking you want.
A cannonball exploration. Yes, you, basically,
We have certain things and then
Oh mishap, we shouldn't shot a hundred Euro God or cannon, but at least we are all here yeah, but they have today too. Well
then how about this we fire York is now involved in the planning of it. We fire your
you're, a body into your friends and family, or at least
into like you could be, could put them around some type of a device that would then explode when you hit a rube Goldberg. Suddenly I, like a guide, triggered a riddle, bird's eye tracker, something the triggers lane that annihilate them. That's right, you got it
what actually know them thing about it is. I want the world end because I think would be stressful, like like serious promo to die and everything keeps going it'll definite
happen. When I don't know I mean like the world yet I mean I actually think that that's a fair thing to hope, not hope or but wonder if that in our generation will see the world and that's not crazy.
not enemies, end in like a leg it like I just like we destroy the world like to somebody horrible nuclear situation, right legates, that's not insane. No, I guess it's not insane, but above all, it would be.
it would be pretty or something vaguely upon they would have to be in it. It would have to be a pretty insane event for the entire world too
not now, but as something apocalyptic Yannick, it gets bad. Yet you know
the omega man. I mean my lovely outcome of hot, but at some point zones or not
anything without me in some point that billions of years the sun will expand and take out everything.
here it and then so
It really is a race, it's not arrange its already. Get you another two, oh that's which is not for us, though, for other people, maybe more
gonna make it their. No one can be around noted, Llanos Stressful, our model.
Those will be around, though what art strands of
Urban will be around redistributed in to the carbon sphere. We talkin, like other lives,
No, I mean, I think I got literal literal molecules- will just be scattered, reabsorbed over an overdue scattered into the earth and then added extra yeah. So I mean I don't think we'll have any consciousness about it, but yeah
figures to merely revealing weren't seventh grid. We always get high for the first time. In my view, freshman year, like I don't believe in God, Blake S table could be like an old man. They were beard, Libya,
go do over by. God has a good thing: if religions taught us one thing, it's a Jesus was definitely.
the point is I dont want to be like torn apart by walls or anything like that. Right
ass the morning on slowly. You do now to be like super fast, yet, usually when you're had to come on.
for that either you know it's like explode spontaneous combustion. Is our electors to explode,
the Earl spontaneously by adding spontaneous combustion, is bad news because you basically, I think, there's you're still conscious, while you're expanding, where you're catching on fire, but also has implications for things around you. Doesn't it like you, too spontaneously combust, without, like certain like science stuff happening around you, that's not good for the environment. I, like you,
after some certain yeah gas that annihilates the other people, you love- maybe
May this spontaneous family combustion. That's religious in yours! Buddy! I'm sorry about this before, but I'm not it's not the actual death part that I'm super afraid of, but it's all of the dread that would surround such a thing and suggesting that retirement this cause it's this sort of the year and every year my dad dying, and that was just he just had. I just had a heart attack and just that was it no nothing. He was totally fine up to that point. I really wasn't finery would not art attack, but for all intents and purposes he was fine here and then gone and- and I think I mean obviously horrible, but I think like, while what a great way to go.
how lucky they didn't have to wither, and you know, and it sucks the loose someone suddenly, but at the same time he didn't have to suffer. He didn't have to know was coming. The family didn't have to watch him sure,
like he it was there to me was like oh yeah,
that's how you want to go. Like all my life, I only dejection and then downward yes self,
and how better to burn out than to fade away rights spontaneous combustion,
it was so for me. I think that would probably be a great. A great way point does not soon know nothin. Do you feel like you,
no do you feel like you're in a race like I gotta beat death to certain some finish line of things to make yeah. I really do not know why, but I feel very like stressed about the things I want to accomplish and home and do them and that that was the things keeps changing. So it's sort of like a spiral, it sort of like the thing that keeps me alive and kills me at the same time. Did you have a lot of brothers and sisters
Why have I had two siblings one died, actually, which is topical issues like twelve years ago. The opposite was sick for a long time, but so now I've won Sesar. So you must have been a kid issue. Thirteen moment I was eighteen in time but which I think plays into that they got to know how you felt sends you lost your father.
like. I think that when you lose people in your so aware of how quick it is you just some people, some people,
The opposite reaction is life based on a bed, but than other people get like obsessed with the things they want to do right. I had a little bit of that too. Just in like oh shit, there is very limited. We must do as much as possible. Just like a like the cliche feeling of lake. We got it live
Do you know here, but you know what, though, what s interesting about that is that you can run around scrambling around so much that you're, actually not living you're, just occupying your time with activities ensures think about that allowed with work. It's like all these things I want to do, but then, like how do you also find the balance
in the past few days were lying in bed like those also pretty exciting, like interesting conversations and reduce sort of existing yeah. It's hard. It's because
In some cases you do one or the other, where it's as ever.
Much in all or nothing kind of kind of an approach. Some people are very good. With moderation
where they can come here? You know
work during the week and then Saturday, like our manager, Alex's like his works, like a dog
all week long. But then you know Friday. Fry
rolls long and like I just hung out with the kids in just chased. The ball
around the yard and swallowed the kids ass and gave him a hugs, and you are making
talk about work, but he won't hear it is fulfilled. These he's totally allows the happiest. Guy just loves it. Well, yeah loves his life and justice, so easy going irreligious the more
when the most balanced people we know yeah. I feel jealousy that yeah.
I think about it. A lot I think about, like just the idea of lay trying to figure out like
operations and work, and also just having like a fulfilling life of like you, no friends and meaningful moments that come from outside of accomplishments. There's a it's like a thing that I've always been trying its nature, its
needs also nature. Nurture thing is: what did you learn when what did it? How did you learn to deal with the world and then also what specific chemicals happened too?
You know it's squishing around in your brain that that predispose you to certain behaviour patterns at. I would imagine by your level a chip on my shoulder stuff with work like that, like oversight it no. No, like I feel, like I grew up in Unlike Reno Middle Class, New Jersey rose like IRAN, went to school and then went to college. I didn't do that stuff, unlike in those
some like some uptown shit but like in the context of my life like that was like everyone would like. Oh he's, a loser, he's going on. Torrents are a lot of my career. My work, I think, is also based on lake. I'm not a lose her.
A programme riah like like theirs is invisible, providing got a pretty good job of both of them go away, and I know I know I know it doesn't go away, but some religious feeling like like someone's against them, are not a bad thing. Always I think I think it a lot of it has to do with goal setting and then the specificity of your goal setting. So in other words, it's funny that we set so many go
rules that are event based or thing based or out externally, based research. I want to do this rather complex. I have two accomplices and then ultimately,
You would think, while the underlying reason must be so that I can be happy and fulfilled, but its very rare that people set goals where they go in. I wanna go to bed every night, happy or feeling fulfilled, and so I want to make choices during that day.
They that might be work some days that might be exercising some days. That might be shoving
Please into my face like, but every damn and go to bed happy, it's weird that we sort of try to take these circuitous routes to happiness without just going. I think I'm going to try to figure out what makes me happy yet that is really. I feel, like I'm happy enough in a big way. Yes, Annette
the lot of night, I got a better wake up really in a measure. For the rest, I think those are all part of things that are making me happy in the big way right right right. It's the it's funny that you can have a macro happiness, but micro stress
like. I do have a lot of like lately. I've had a lot of weighing up anymore,
looking in the mirror and being like
The series of decisions that have led me here to looking like a ninety five year old, professor
news is that you are only thirty years old and then you have plenty of time to and you don't have a doctorate
to play your life and whenever you are not a lot of professor monotony gives them. Investors
so
If you can still do you can see
They would everyone else you want to do besides. Music stuff out debating want to do this, but I can't I wanna keep doing it better. You know no want to keep pushing.
Should it be pushing at it really hard and that's a sound growth. No, not at all. How do you define what better that debt? That's tough thing? Is it just sort of like a feeling or is it you know, so you work on stuff. You work on suffer months and months and it could be like call. You could have an idea that happens to match. Like that's the shit like that's than nets, the cool thing you know. That's the thing that feels really interesting. That's the thing I'm really proud to do, and so you just it's like this weird search for that feeling you have, you have to keep working and putting it up in the position that hope it it happens here. I feel really go when it happens, but also like anytime. It happens. A meal have his feeling like I'll fuck. When seeking to happen again, it's it's like up. We will describe paranoid outward. Yandah drag your dick low to the high of accomplishment, asphyxia yak, as it does feel so good. It makes you feel, like you have a purpose. You know what I'm, when I'm doing things like that, when I'm into in touch with that, I feel alive and like I have a reason to exist.
and like a matter and am contributing sunning, and when I don't it's like the opposite, I feel like who gives a shit right, but just be careful not to not that you asked me, but I've been through this. Let you take on it. Just just be careful not to rely too heavily on external sources of validation there very nice nor to personal thing, and it is it's all like my opinion of it, when I think something is like really exciting. Giver make lists of things like you, ve made your lists.
Of relegated. What did I do this year in just write down everything that you accomplished professionally and emotionally in relationship wise? I mean, if you see everything
laid out. You could probably go like
Ok, actually you know
and only really give yourself credit for. Like the last thing you did, but I remembered us if you see everything laid out, you might go. Oh
we actually have. I think I am
on the right path, or at least I have you know you have done in the past few years, and it's it's a really nice thing to really do due to the end of the earth. I do at the end of the year I do like midway through the air and kind of just look at the things I
I pulled off, or the thing like, even just like happy moment that I recalled like
Furthermore, this lake list of the year. It's amazing the incredible things that you might accomplish that you just forget like. Oh, I didn't do that thing. You know because you're so focused on
totally? You know short term short term yeah, so real, it's a real pain.
So think about a lot of anxiety, depression to its like the year capability of being kind. To yourself is like my new compared to hey. You can treat other people like the way that, like we speak to ourselves or some people, do it
court, would never speech in other parts, of course, like it's unbelievable, kindly making a lesson pudding for new face, like I think about that, a lot of talk about thereby to like. Why can't I treat myself the way treat other people via someone else being like I'm panicked. What there's not a black know, your your great you done all these things and bubbled. It's bizarre that you can use that voice in your unused. Have you ever have
Do you have to have someone that you're close to friend or family ovulation butterflies that beats himself up, and then you get mad at them for being themselves up with the way that you would get mad at someone?
for beating the Maumee people really close to. I can never is at an end that level not only new, I mean, like I mean, like they beat themselves ivy themselves and then you're like
I'm doing that legal way that he would say stop doing if it was someone else attacking them. Yes, that you did so when you see no, when you can see that such a bad, we really are mean to earth, were really mean to ourselves and- and I think, a lot of it just you know it's it's early childhood stuff. What what level
Thank you deserve and what you know when people start getting out of that comfort level than they saw a freak out. You know, like you, have this idea in your head.
This is who I am, and I deserve no better than this, and if it thinks
going really well. You might start pounding yourself to ban
set out or something I know, but you don't have to do that. I think the universe is neutral. No one knows it doesn't really care. You make up all those rules, erhead the universe, neutrals and I thought it as it doesn't. You know when people think like
These are conspiring with. No nothing is you just. I think what you like known gives a shit. No one can say that I was a universe. A meter waitresses, like the universe, has given far. I talk about that. A lot of people are close to me. It's like things that seems a huge our lives like known you vision, yeah yeah, it's not a good stuff, not like. If you write a good song or could do good work, but just like the other stuff, you might be worried that is like in the ether yeah. I was scared, I would say like it's like the best last worse thing you could like no yourself or tell some is like known, gives a shit about you.
So with that information like relax, don't give a shit so do what you want the buzz of no one gets
s last words thing you can find out
it does. Not pay will give a shit, but I just think in a broader sense, there just focus on their own shit, yeah they're, not thinking about that thing.
Set at a party and they're not focused on it and you you know. Unless
tell someone you know like
hey go fuck your mother with a grenade. There
in general. There not thinking about a thing. You don't need to colonial member that
I said I was really dug. They're gonna be like what are you talking about everyone's focused on them at once? I like. I got you a habit while backed like. I would look unfair before leaving the house going. They don't care, if you don't
about that later this year in you don't care for those who will be redressed up and like seventies girt with Cyber NASA, and I was trying to New S, eyes suits you guys, like you, so as to exactly those ere, you don't care, they need ok, zippered, but I do want to do.
You do little. How does this factor into
your relationship then are you. Do you have a good balance with you know this is the different neuroses yeah. I think so. I think it's good to, on one hand,
people with silver neuroses shouldn't be together, because then you could get into like. Is this cancers in their presence?
I don't know me, do you think it is, but now
that you learn to be really good. When you're in Ireland Gypsum Life, you learn to be good to you learn to be like a counter, yet you know it's always try to me. It seems like I don't know this is
I am not a therapist what're you gonna say well is, however, if I may here's reception way, what is just that, if you had to watch your younger sister die
you are. You have no control over that. So does that mean that you might be prone to trying to hyper control,
nothing else, because you are in this situation when you are young, you couldn't fix. Are you trying to fix something now that you think maybe you couldn't fix when you were younger? I rise in much fixing, but I have real control issues like a real
germ issues to think about that a lot and think about all the ways in which, like any take control that
wash my hands and not touch certain things? India, but it's all bullshit, I think about it.
Then I'll be in a corner where I seek out like right of sooner dive that than to see. But yet, like you know, it's why I'm so upset on planes. Real control like I want to be able to control things, because I've had some things that were that felt ETA control, and not just also is that experience, but then also what happened after that, like my life, felt ETA control for an extended period, sure you know I couldn't control like your hepatic attacks, yeah, of course like that. Is it such a profound experience, because in from the second you your first one in a real
having tax. Not like. You know you hurt. People are going through a panic at technical level during a fuckin panic attack you and me telling me you'd, be like you, be fucking running around in circles, clutching your chances. If you feel like strapped to cardiovascular, we know you re freaking an end. So, even though the when I started pancakes, my life really changed. I felt like I know it all my life, like I couldn't go to dinner. I can go to a movie
can do anything, because what, if I had you not is the fear by having one is we're all my god yeah that was the first month when I was in college.
I had him for a month- and I didn't
What they were and the internet was not really a thing
everyone had access to all the time yet so it was, I just didn't know,
I was just like theirs
wrong either nosedive yeah me too, if it felt like wow, strokes, have been described and the fear of,
going out on a wide needed to be home. It was still the same experience, but yeah
couldn't I couldn't go out to those like I could go and then I could freak out, but then I just need to raise home yeah an end in the fear of, if they happen, is almost greater than them happening. What that's, because panic attacks or bay-
stone and anxiety is based on the. What, if question yet, which is usually a tear of any question that you ask yourself that starts with what is usually a terrible question. Yet
because it sends you in a very bad direction, is never like what if my career goes the way I dream, what would have happened if I shall read today, would have twenty years from now
back and I really accomplished what if I'm already fulfilled, would have my line. It is as good as they wanted. It then, put that's why I think, but that's where I think people actually have more control than they think and when they find themselves asking bad. What have questions you can you know, and even if it does nothing more than distracted,
for a minute? That's enough to stave off. We know what could be a very the horrible panic situation.
Are you look at it like? You can see the human mind and body is like this flailing peace, peace of garbage and has no control, and my just get like shot in the head and like is emotionally unstable and cant. Do anything in panic attacks make you feel like this like a relevant atta control thing right or you could
like yourself, your mind, your body, like this amazing machine that has so
Control and when you can rationalize things and talk through things yourself in your head, if you really feel unstoppable, so it I've like, I really felt both as that spectrum really intensely yet, which is funny because.
You can be so certain of that, but then occasionally you'll get hit by one we're like no, but this time this I really do need to be hooked up to a cardio machine like oh. No, this was that they are so physical than people who haven't haven't understand how physical they are like tat. You can see not see straight, you can use your entire body will feel like it. Not yours, you won't. Oh it's the word. If you, if you, if you go, look at the
If you go look at the dummy symptoms that go along and I say dummy symptoms, in other words there not like they're, not usually what you think they are, but then the list,
Symptoms is really extensive and crazy and like while that too
can be a symptom of anxiety like it's. It's pretty, isn't ain't in the long term. Symptoms are crazy. The worse it enough. You better, have zero disassociate. I haven't really been
connected in that way. I mean I've certainly felt out of my body.
That feeling we are not there, but not its, but I
I've had a limited experience with that. That's why they say it. I will, of course I can imagine that. Does that those moments in that comes from panic, anxiety where you're just like. Well, I'm not even living my fucking life.
yeah, so it's not even like with panting anxiety, like I'm living a horrible disassociate like a million living life. Oh yeah
their nose and a few I've seen before people on it just and looking and anxiety forms which they had to do sometimes.
Someone will say like talking about this association
yeah, you know I I did some. I did some
Roger whatever. When I was young and I've never felt like then something like broke. I thought I had that ever that's right about that lot: the records, tyrants, acid experience I have an acid
and I literally thought I ruined my life, because I was in fact for a couple months for couple Magua I was like totally but is also a year after I lost. My sister was very. It was terrible timing. It like unlocked the lot but like it really blew me out there just totally not there, and I was at home for months. Well, you probably my guess, is that you probably just didn't want to deal with all of it
It is strange that you had a you know. The sadness from losing someone is really it's very unique, because it's not like I mean you go through a break up,
bombed out about it, but you know exactly what it is that Europe set about, but though, but actually losing
I'm honored like going through real, like some really intense trauma it just
it's just settle this really deep is just like it's almost like. You know like a very deep lake below a glacier,
or something works is down there and you don't realize it nearing feel weird and then someone ago
You know your dad died with all my God, that's kind. Of course. That's what it is like you just forget you, you walk with it more than you do other things absolutely because it just it just kind of settles can t
the king in a break up you'll like Beale. We really destroyed not just like all ever marry in a couple hours, yet I will that rate with loss in that kind of grief. It s just a part of you now yet that's it like you know, and then you just live with it forever and it changes, but it never goes away
You know that that's also beautiful thing right outlay would want to know. No, no, of course, not because that's what keeps it alive
There is actually that I saw the australian hormone occult. Do that's on demand. Renown
like bats gray, because the whole thing is a metaphor for like living, whether he regards and grief,
certainly sounds silly. Vassili thing that kind of break out.
I got it. I get this it's a beautiful way of talking about. Like you know, it's like there's a whole kind of like an own demon.
thing. That's hunting this mom inner sign and it's like you know she still like dealing with the grief of like losing her husband and like it's like you, it's like she hasta. She can't fight it. She has to learn to live with it and it's as its it
funding, as you think you just watching this kind of horror movie at the annual. Like oh shit, this certainly much more than I was prepared for barbecue Babo, Duke Duke that initiative
I think about a lot like how you you'd you
You know you want to build a move on, but you don't wanna leave everything you don't take too much. You know tat. You see these people that like have gone through things in it.
comes over complicated, you dont want to be one of them.
We also want to be someone like this. Like I'm new
from our mental eyes like emotions. I think that can lead to a weird spot as a prior registered to go. Ok cool! That's over there! It's like it's like! Well then, what's an experience than if you're not having not over there, even yeah yeah, the like you know, you'll use you act as if yet I think
can you can get us nowhere dark places when you start to go. This is the section in this. Isn't me normally, but I can't be that person ethical start to really split your psyche Athos impossible, because when people tried to that, like any time, I've tried do that, like or of I've tried not to grieve it, it will physically manifest and paying tax.
It will not come out of your so yeah, your body. If you dont deal with your body, is gonna deal that one way or another, its guy
you're either going to deal with it? Are you gonna be forced to deal with it, and I am one of the things that I was able to do and again. I think it was because
the nature and the way for the way that he died but was just go well, I'm just gonna.
Feel how I'm gonna feel on a day to day basis, for who knows how long and if I feel I cry,
I will try if I feel like being weirdly
happy I will be really happy and so basically not fighting the wave made it a lot easier than if it was like,
One of you know trying to fight. It often is like I should experience, because that's I can then also need like soldiers having one feeling or having to feelings like in your like it's a yearly unhappy
Why am I happy I'm bummed out I'm happy because they should be bombed out right. Everything starts get muddy, and then you see that a lot of people have issues was showing a lot of emotion, while people like would normally suppress that kind of thing which sucks thing, there's like a stigma like crying and
Where's your horror right is being really motion. Orb people just don't like to look at that, can stuff right or in public on a truck at another time, a grander barrels
I am sure you will
I've always sort of envious, less a little frightened by the
lifestyle of nomadic touring. Musician of you know, I mean, like at least, was withstand up. You can sort of like gotta city firearm curiosity fly home, but that I would love to do like a like a month.
You just in a box around the country, but I feel like at a certain point. I might start going crazy. It's weird because there's different moments of it, like you, you feel the beginning.
A tour east in the east, or can I was the same feeling words like there's a feeling to the beginning. There's a cassette Weird rock bottom partners like this towards the end part. Is this: it's like. You have a relationship of their report and it is the are you where did out the most like at the half way
of the tour or where you go, we swirling half way or at the beginning or what's what's your where's halfway point or weather related like cold and tourism, very stressful thing. I know it's funny it. It's like I've been entirely fifteen years at this point and very much consistently so it just I phillotson. Those is more Comfor until there is at home there just because its, I think it is meant to be uncomfortable, so you're like old,
supposed to be fucked up. So it's like not crazy that I feel we are, but if I'm like home in my like apartment, but all my shit around- and I feel like bizarre than it's like what the fuck is wrong here
but those are when you're on tour. There's there's it's like you're busy, all the time not sort of world.
Coming in in itself. You could just be said not above a hurry up and wait thing, but yeah but you'd, like you know you get up that day. You have a show that night. I have this thing to do tonight when we have to eat before we get there. When I have to make this call, when we get there, we have sound track and it isn't Hervis yeah there
You have this purpose everyday. This guy, I think, he's in the band bread. It was in the band Greta Van Susteren of that, but he he got out. He got out of being in a band
and he wrote this whole thing about like all this, like weirdness, that came out of his like, oh turns out, like I wasn't ever busy. I didn't really ever do anything besides. Just play
He shows because he's like sitting at home now is what do I do like. He doesn't know what to do about these
an interesting I've been interesting, parallel story, which was was prepared a time when I was young. I wanted to go into cartoons, and my best friend in high school was the starboard artists. Knee was a very successful,
artists and I was like when they had gone. Maybe I could go into story born singly. Maybe this is something I could do, because I can draw making drop, ok and- and so he goes right well
That is something you wanna do and I'll tell you what someone told me to do just just draw guy like walking across the street and like when you mean what you doing. You acknowledge the guys just there to dry.
I am always gonna be doing something. I don't understand that I could not just fucking draw guy walk groceries like does he have been enacted.
easy wearing something where the car like I couldn't, and it was almost like I couldn't define- and this is where it looks back around- is not being able to define someone with by you know, if they're not doing something which was such a strange experience and I just didn't become
Darwin artists, because I could I could never just raw guy. I would start, and, unlike what does is like that, I don't fuck, you don't know what he's doing. So. I wonder if that was more product of my brain of like how do you define someone unless they have a specific directive on our streets today
I won't go across the stream. I have no life matrix jump
That's really! It's like you. Your brain arms like over complicated the whole completely, but also, but but the idea of trying to
find someone by you know what they're doing and that that's who they are there and any sort of have to remember that. That's not always was a lot of that and tore like I'm on tour
that defines the Airbus of your life a month. Appeal say what he actually government or yeah. It's that mean so many things because Torres twenty four hours a day
it's a really weird thing? I don't know what my life would be like without it or how I would move past it or what I'm going to do. If my body can't talk anymore, it's just a part of who I am
do it always has been like says Fifteen's waste. Our time have kids yeah, but there's nothing is not like
I feel, like I love Torreon, a very healthy way. I think I want kids, I have an apartment. I wanna like have all that stuff too, and I love being home. I just always also want to be torn, really it's not like in it, but it is also a little bit tied to like losing my sister in those times, those on tour right after that, and it felt like home.
Is this a devastating placed? An encore was, like anything happen, you can wake up ever let the next morning and feel totally different. So there is dislike the weight
feel at home, and not so much on tour that I do think goes back to that yeah I mean you know. Who knows maybe at some point you ll discover that you should just force yourself to do nothing,
month and see what happens. I mean like it's almost rock opera,
our rapporteur
what sort of like exploring you know? It's gonna like why, in this so much emphasis in the present space exploration of like what about ocean export. When I go inward, let's, let's focus resources and see what the fuck is here. You know
What's in yourself, you know taking an inner space and inner space for them in rainbow, echoing what we're only at fifteen percent knowledge the rain right. I don't know what the specific percentages but less when I read,
I don't remember what the new sixty and then someone else. Someone else said like the percentages
isn't really not capacity. What we use. I've heard that's bullshit right as a daughter. Recently, that's crap it, but I really rising every only so
it's only understands o understands what you said. He right right right would really upset me.
Oh you want to know whether the legendary and it looks like the Catholic will retirement,
a daughter saying Here- is our feeling lot better like if we
more than maybe like some ugly flick, something in the back of my brain. They could be like
You know, you're gonna be a little bit less worried about. You know dying of pneumonia right, just as that one is unhelpful for you, other ones are, but that what I wonder if, knowing about that stuff, your brain, what awaken like the parts that you know it's like zones exclaimed? Oh these or other things, a brain. Does I wonder if that would trigger sums
and so in people's brains. Without having to do anything, I think so because knowing how anxiety works mean so much to me in his change of, I think, like that, the good the grooves nothing gets stock and if you get stuck on thought than a thick fixes, a groove and more likely they go to that thought later. If it bit it like Macy passionate to push past anxiety, will it also because in this case the knowledge is the power that gives you control over the situation? You know how to deal with that information, but when things start happening and like I don't know, you're stuck in the loop of helplessness and inactivity because you don't know how to sort it out, you don't know where
goes so he I think that also probably awful to again its work as a control issue out. I know how to work. I know I know how to control this anxiety. I recently found out like I've. I've been really into just like D Jane,
like playing music. When my friends are hanging out,
I've always can like to, but I like climates of doing it more and more
Often your renting out well
Like you know like like, when there's a group of friends, I gotta houses on without feeling let people again I'll play again so, like you know, it happened. Last new year's, and ever since and I've done a maybe about five times so called United, but I think about a lot and I asked,
like making playlists and such like that, and I realize, like my need to like play like it, gives me some to do, but also gives me control of the environment. It's like if I'm like,
I finally pickin songs of playing people respond to, unlike I'm like I'm, controlling the feeling of this.
parliament without really participating in yeah. Then I, like that yeah headsets it may me cause I've been friends, ideas for
YO forever, and I got I never understood it until I got my oh. This is me you're you're, caught you're like you're, interacting with these people, but you're. Not you not talking to them. You're just you're just making a thing, and I think that might be be
by controlling, like ones, environment or one situation, yoga everything usually not
men who go to like like ass, an M closet and stuff like that and get like beat up and tied up and what not in like how the control is really in their hands, because there are controlling the way the ring
used. Are that's interesting analysed this all study of like how ass an emerald
is a control thing, even though it seems like it's out of control thing, and it is really fascinated me well yeah. I mean I've, never really, and I thought about it. A lot with the whole younger measures have going on right, which, as an mba, which which it
came twisted, be about that which is not about that. Are you I mean? I don't have any predisposition to like wanting to
beaten up or wanting to hit me like any others. Those elements that we all have a like that stuff, like like a Hare pool
or in a reliable, like elements of an all, everyone is fetish elements. Some of them make a lot of sense like I like college porn and I think the reason wise they didn't go to college.
so my mother, my another, can I have a view, languid door. This is what I assume
Happily so so like the dream is alive. Like did you go to college? I did go together. You know whatever
And really goes on your socks, or maybe its awesome, or maybe it's somewhere between. I just you know I didn't go to. I did go to college, so I like watching porn
and where people are getting their equivalency- or you know what's going on- I'm just trying to achieve that
dreams. Earlier. I like it's like it's the dream. Is it like the my impression of college from the things as mine is just that, like that's? What goes on yeah it's, it was
actually I can't we're thing to it's like, I guess any kind of like fetish. Her son, like that, it's like I did know I didn't realize it
Till I saw knows I, and I am at the new saying it made me. Go do look up,
likely there dorm yeah fuck.
There's all these college related plays its yeah shit.
We wonder if that's also you know this, but there is also
about in a broader sense, I'm guessing. If I'm just paper, analyzing everything there is something about soiling, an institution.
The old I mean like the institution of colonies, your saying there's something about like you know going in
You ve been essentially a college or cabs factor
what are our brain drain is. That's arose
not a train and in light of all the way at the end of the train like would have no catch or what
five years ago, the snow Peter was afford yeah slope hears. It becomes an ok
gross me out
Gary within this very nice,
The song Valley, girl still totally holds up. If you listen to it, it still. Fucking totally holds up start to finish the satire.
Yes, maybe that it may be. That is something about you know. I think we all have different finish it just based on everything that we have or having experienced yeah. I would absolutely agree that through other, I really gonna see dont think I have anything. That's I mean, let's just say what I think it's the sexes fund
With the birds, birds, birds,
oh yeah, I don't know, I keep Jonah has this bit about how
He raised his home one time to jerk off
from the door and he had all these dogs and he runs.
the bedroom and right as he's about to come,
Dogs run in and they think it's play time, and so now is in situ. Am sorry for doing about open now is in this situation, where he's coming and having to kill
dogs in the face to keep them away.
And he's like? What? If I did that's the moment, I discover that's a thing.
Then I have like so I'm cause. I had better start like a weird thing happened: yeah go could build on. That was the best I've ever older, yeah, so yeah I've. Always I'm always wondering if someone's gonna have room like. Oh, my dear oh, that maybe you need to put yourself more situations, but if I did
then I wouldn't have as much control now you know for me, control was about. Why think there are a couple of things that are one my parents bottle out when I was a kid so what they say together, they did not say together, they divorce and I was eleven.
and so
they they follow. When I was a kid so that didn't and my parents were both individually great to me like I didn't, they were not shitty to me at all. They were wonderful, but to each other they were, you know they do not get along, and so there is a certain amount of light.
Oh, I see control and stability because you know I saw this kind of tumultuous thing when I was growing up and it was never abuse. It is never physically abusive, just like just yelling at paths that work for you and relationship known your life I dont know. Actually I do think. Sometimes I find myself in situations where I'm trying to fix something or trying to fix up someone like all. I can still this up in a way that maybe I couldn't from my parents- I don't know, I don't I'm sure there are many innovative ways that will continue to reveal themselves, but then also you know now.
such a stickler for, and I wouldn't say that I'm like a rabbit control freak, but I really do like control, especially because you know I was such a
I was such a loose cannon when I was in my twenties and just like drank a bunch and just did a bunch of crazy stuff that I feel I can now. I just I just need to have everything.
And I never gave a shit about anything before like paying bills on time or showing up places, or you know like that. I would just I could just drink for a week and it would be great, and now it's very much
you know calendars very organise like I'd. I'd need to see
thing laid out. I like to know exactly what's going on, you know so for me I think. That's that's how my control manifests manifests itself, just trying to be able to control the events and also. I also think that catastrophism, which it sounds like you do. A bit is definitely a control issue yeah, because you have your catastrophe using your basically predicting what you perceive. As you know, the easiest outcome I go. Of course, this is gonna happen,
because that you know it's it's much harder for us to projects like the. What? If I succeed and I'm happy, you know that's much harder project because, especially with what we do there's just then there's the you know it's sort of like a batting average, the the high
success rates are actually still very low percentage wise, so we just get so used to rejection and brick walls in and also like, cannot what you're saying like if you're gonna like have a career as absurd is like writing, songs or playing music, or something like that.
which is like it so hard, there's a small percentage that a work out yeah then like the percentage that your house will catch fire, if I small also, but, as you know, the kind of person it's like banking on this little thing, it is also worth
The reason is, I feel, like I can imagine all the little the crazy like struck getting hit by lightning, or even
sharp procedures happened to me too. I guess I'm thinking about that in positive areas where I live as well, did any of the songs of that became hit songs. Were you really like? Oh yeah, reelect watches
and I ve never been like going. It's always a big. It's a weird thing has its like, there's two parts to me as a part of me that it like wants to take over the world and things I can do it and things. I have all these great ideas and made to work like crazy in his apartment, a total piece of shit in their constant fighting each other, and so there's no arrogance to the to the other parts not like, like it is more like a confidence is like an exciting feeling. Sure it's not like, I'm it's not like a dark feeling. It's actually I love it. I wish I had more of it sometimes but its, but it strictly artistic, if not commercial solely think about that, would like the quality, the work when something commercially becomes a big thing. I always think like. Oh that's, wild will, there's, no and and also the thing is important in my view that there's
merit in keeping yourself down or thinking you're a piece of shit. There's no merit in that likes. I think some people are so worried, looks like we will for a little sore. Like I mean I just don't want to be one of those egocentric people
no sweat, keep myself down. It's like well. You're still focused on yourself and be
There's no merit in shitting on yourself like that. Doesn't do anyone any good! You can't do any good for anyone really uninteresting. Also like a tired concept. Yeah, you know, which is probably why, like rafts of August uncanny witches in others
different elements about it, but one thing it's really exciting about him is how much he loves what he does and then goes and does it relates end, and I see like does a great job at his specific work. Why things? We always think about the type of artists that, with that crazy amount of competence, that everyone's like?
they're. So surely don't they now yeah the original terrified of being yeah is that's like that. That's a huge fear! I have just
for stepping my own boundaries. Here's a fun thing. You remember, though, most of the things that you fear the most will never come to pass.
But for some people they do something. Now I say when you say that you cannot say with over two percent certainty that all of them don't regenerative. Chris Brown looked in America is like saying I'm terrible in like I wish I was
yes and go away while you're at it, then he says and what we say in any punches Eric. What would you think everywhere saying it's actually a hundred times were pretty, I look summarily says it doesn't matter what they say and I don't care about John you're, just like yours, brethren of Eu Self evident answer. Zune goes out and
but there was no. It is because there are these characters that, like Erasmus than some of the opposite you're like do even
know how much we all hate equal, even know what things had, but I think all the money. You know that's like defining yourself by other back external things and if you can be happy with yourself and like what you do and just be comfortable fat and none of that stuff really matters Escher and I had a doctor once you know when I was a much worse hypochondriac. That would say. Look if you hear
If you hear hoof sounds if you here, you know it's probably a horse and not a zebra. In other words, you know the the unlikely it's probably not the UN
equally thing is probably more than likely thing across my answers like one of them in the savanna, but
and doktor, when I was going to really isn't it
and I thought I was dying missing a pang tat in this much older doktor came over incense aim in everybody. I thought it had check me. Allowed them either
really sovereign moment where we both realise that I was just anxious and it wasn't video than an intellect pay the premium to the doktor come my hotel room, but he looked a meaningless. It takes decades for someone to understand their own body, and I think that every day, because it so incredible like theirs is pressure were disposed to get it everything we feel it's us George was to get it. If we don't get at them, are stupid or rather touch her or not. You know whatever it is, but like maybe it's gonna. Take me till I'm seventy to understand what it really feels when I start to feel panic or
society, and how it can sue that ray. I loved it with I'm too good quote. He might have also said it would if he whispered in your something like have you ever seen, natural
blonde pubic here, because he was in Japan and bleed probably left. The room was like using heretics at US decades for seminars and their bodies like thank yous, always by laughing legacy.
no, I don't I didn't say that was something I was interested and I said I was gonna teach a thing to bring up a no because I was there when the let there's a less. Are you specifically Japan, the zebra, his blood feuds out of everything it- and there was a lot of metaphor- mentions- opens up a little Japan favor
When I go there so bad. You then, where no, I wanna go and see that robot under that robot burlesque bar it so cool, because I've got a bunch of travelling in all places,
been everywhere. I go I'm like. Oh, we look a little different. We talk different, we different things, but where the same absolutely in Japan
another world and I love it. It's so amazingly, just culturally different. I can't wait and I don't have time to go, but I really want to
I really want to go. Let's just go now. Julia far from here, you ve delay
yeah. I don't Hawaii yeah Hawaii about in a hole in the hollow
they get some more letters Jonah for your walking off a ban on any that many. What is it twelve, twelve there? Twelve?
So what are the twelve? You invented this?
nobody from Hawaii your yeah enter into filling the gradual yeah to reduce have to take on a waste. That is what will your born there yet border as you get up now,
you look specifically EAST Coast yeah, it's funny. It's funny like being from somewhere so specific and having everyone like assume like it's like. I got North North West, a ton when I first Medea here I got canadian and like it that there's once I start a colleague
drinking like yours like what they all your from Chicago right, which is like a horrible thing to say about Chicago
have you drink, allow you dear from Chicago right, but it's it's either
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You can't go back there now. Ok, yeah executive, that go anywhere where in Hawaii and yet Oahu call you have you been yeah, I'm gone again very nice with letters to arrange a nice where I don't know.
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The Christmas tree lot near my house, music is nice
very nice, like the music like on work, to have very romantic, and the one thing that Cinema has done well for us is like a people is given us like a good sense of love and Christmas. The electricity is, it makes me think of like getting the one you want that doesn't want you. Yes, just feels like, like shit works out Christmas also other Pomegranate Christmas. I see plea
a wonderful crews must not just so cool. It's such a pool song relations on everyone sheets on. That's all right. I wonder what the next big criticising to be. Who would do it? Who
Mercosur song. I love and I never hear anymore Christmas. It's Christmas,
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on tv. They did like the empty, be Christmas outlet for simply because this album it's wrong,
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like an like the new order. There always record is like one of those records. I can do that too, and then now occurred vile and violence
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like its very it's. Never I've never written twenty five songs pick twelve and sequence. Em like
on their roads, as are all sides erode. They were written to be in the place to too often a big like a big symptom of two dozen fourteen. Is these albums that sound like twelve singles, not albums Riah in their so absurd like it? So it so sad event, so I felt so compelled like sesame an album you know made for the people who was. There was now most people by always its yeah, not or people. So listen you felt by Miss Allison Elms music is bigger than ever. It is less money in it. Nothing yeah yeah, there's more more people
more people buying vinyl worthy people should remember. I feel, like the conversation about the music industry. Falling apart should be separate from the conversation about it that use it is as if not more important than ever. Yeah. It's pretty and
both the european money falling is ever accommodation. The there's nothin has nothing to do with like, but it's like
times when there's a legacy music, I do go now. Musics fuckin fly hides the industry. It's the beers by.
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constantly changing its exciting. Now it's really go. What did you think of your body? Like music it'll, also down little I'll, be fine and just didn't, is blue
off into a fire it let it that's what I'm gonna do people want to blow up? Let it right you re, do some, let it go bet you
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aiming everyone else for other, probably know, but you well. Thank you. So you wanna do want a plug anything specifically herb.
Only plug nay, I would do at this point would be undone.
Everything we already talked about, if someone's knowledge and things we said so, I feel like we have had such a sense of conversation that,
later gonna left for not of its permanent. I think they will. You. Are it's just your name jack? It's enough at twitter, the hour the bleachers one is leeches music, but there they all sort of become one thing nowadays, oh by the way, it was very nice to meet you in Vienna at the enemies yeah that you were both so sweet and I was so nervous and she made me feel so comfortable you can. You can find out a lot about people and workers.
I really think that, because that's what they're like weird we'll take a horrible rather like tons of famous people around us around like when you meet people like when I met you just for a second nose like out a nice guy like ok, that's you know that is really ensuring nice person very different than a lot of experience is that you have throughout the night. Well, you know everyone's disk
it's weird invite everyone scared and there are comfortable and they don't want to be exposed in their nerve, they're nervous, sir. They don't want to. I don't know, because you know why, because you cannot control that environment.
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George, I was involved, as those easier is good to have fun reliable legal guarantees.
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what role does very exciting natural specifically when you meet the people from it, it's really cool.
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movie, God save the girl which girl I'm trying to think of living Marjorie even
lower lately, I think so highly dormer their names that Natalie Dormer and trying to know it. Yes,
try and think and try to remember who she is in the show, is as important as a hundred characters on the tv show. But if you look up she's, a very, very obviously worker
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and while I am on this- is totally old model. Ensure corporations would love to hear me say this, but like it when we know all the streaming businesses at the whim of wifi and if you don't have at all times by travelling, used to buy episodes of stuff on Itunes, yes, buys tons, of which five billion less presence of his buying every
yeah. I saw that that's maybe one tool documents, Spotify Netflix and that the whole site of music and film industry must not it's all the whim of internet, which is not as bigger part of commerce ease, and it should be,
so. Everyone like wins, borrowing and take over and like the answer, is when internet is everywhere all the time you can be very difficult in Munich can be. We can get that in chunks of the country, but America's two Fuckin big year, but when you take five years in speak ever it'll be it should be most places, but you really do forget how much empty space there is. Another cars have
Cars do have internet. If we derive great my house, I was not distract enough. I was driving the I need more thing. Mr pull, my attention:
I have a letter, my license expire because I am
aware that I'll probably go myself like you drive, there's a well, that's good.
but it had been known about moving on yeah. That's that's! Not unless again your
having with your entire fat, friends and family, all in the same car problem areas
to make sure it was enough of an intense whack or fly off a cliff that we all go out. I think flying off a cliff would do it. You scope
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