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is an avid supporter of comedy and just I just a door her so much, and I was so glad that you came on nations illness nervous. I can listen to that as well, so I'm so I'm so happy and honour to be friends with this woman, because she's just call a shit Katy and you don't lorraine- does a ton of voice over Jack's as well. She is that you can you ve, probably heard her voice and a million things and maybe even realize it, but you can go to her website w p. Not Lorraine, Newman DOT. Com in Lorraine is L, a are a I and ii or mere it's hard, not to say that it is a timely one area based which uses larva thing that changed Elgin history. What, whatever you know, the first thing that most influential things in committee that look probably the most influential thing in comedy ever so thanks, Lorraine Coming on this episode also brought by Buffalo wildly things: there is a new body.

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waiter stay away, have been disappearing. Her skull enough turns for centuries. You ve just been because no vampire ever like was like. I'm gonna hit the comedy certain right exhort. You know it's like they. Never like wonderful, come back comics disappear all the time night. It's perfect a boy there's just so many bad jokes. It just popped into my brain. Some dead comics event. You only you- and I know that is its way, because with your leg with improv training, you want to spit out whatever into your mind, but then common decency, you'd, like you sometimes, can just feel deceived bursting of like the screws popping out of the law. I gotta keep that in mind, really gonna. Keep that in mind. More balls The ball is now at stake. I completely agree with you because I have got not about the balls learn about the keeping it in because I've just the is just too easy to do.

Burned, especially nowadays, kneeling pocket. Just wasn't worth it. It was just a throwaway. Jug just wasn't worth it. I guess this is what being oh no, in real life, we say terrible jokes, each other on time. Yet this is the on enterprises interacted. Yet what does it think? I like it if its, if a nun many person heard comics in a room. They would go you're, the worst human beagle nano we're things, because we know it's it. We don't leave these things. As colleagues, this is how we shock the gate. It's not it's not real. Yes, a manifestation of our fear, of course us, and we all have a lot of bats we have a lot of that will be a dollar ninety, quite reasonable. That's a reasonable therapy session about ninety eight hundred and ninety eight or even that go well. That's a good deal like three hundred three, fifty in our but dumb I would love to two. First of all, I also owe you a huge debt of thanks for

telling Jonah this? You know because you were there but low rate. They did the tv Hall of Fame, the tv gallery having I got to industrial rivers, obviously posthumously and then Lorraine, like the first season cast of Essen L was there ah ends and bill. Murray shut up in bills was a second season guy, but he came with Lloyd. I had no idea that he was not included in the thing. I I texted him and said: are you going to this thing? Is we always do when there's ants. We always check with each other. You know, are you going? Whom are you going and so I tested Billy, and he said I know what you're talking about, and I thought I saw legitimately thought: will they just don't have his address? They just don't know how to contact him, so I told him all the details and he came and he was not included clips nothing. You know- and I re I realize then in that moment, that they just thought it, because he was the first season. He wasn't

hindered the ridge of caste member which is crazy and I was so embarrassed I just felt so bad at haunted me and you know I was driving under the airport news on the phone with his brother Joel and were took That's some air efficient car or something like that and suggests is so how was the thing and he says? Well, I wasn't in the clips or anything I thought. He's hurt, hurt and I felt like such a schmuck you should have left alone. While I love that I mean listen, I love that been not not to nazi glum onto your pain and attitudes but I love that even you can have those moments where you go away. Because you Lorraine Notice, that I was sort of hovering around Bill and Dan knows what he is mom Kosovo has been used very, like approachable and berries bills

those guys, were you just don't know, I mean like I've heard sometimes where he's amazing to talk to you in other times where the walls or uppity says I want to talk so I just didn't. There are very few people were You, like, I dont, know what I would say he's just one of those guys in the rain notice that I was going to sign written us when we build and so noble opened out ass? She opened it up in suicide Bilbil. This is crazy. You know you ve started this thing called artists? Didn't I mean I don't remember what I said he he started an empire and this is something I think you'd really enjoy. Knowing what I just didn't have a response I was like It is the comic. I only know anything, and then we have this picture where I'm so clearly, tents shit. Has, I so afraid of ever bothering anyone yeah, because everybody thinks exactly the way you do Chris

of course everybody ass, easy on the way you see yourself. That's all I knew it. I need to download, adds another delay, ideal world or a box already. What are we three? Ninety six that those boys, but but even a button. Situations it just as its very tricky, because you just you know, and it's nice you got you all have each other as a group, a sort of you flanking, protect each other and well. I've learned through years of meeting my idols that it's never satisfying, because you have a fantasy of what do you want it b and it'll? Never be that there are stranger you gotta remember there are strengthened and you know them and they don't know you exactly? Usually, usually it

nice, when you, if you do, meet someone and they there's a hint of recognition, even if they dont quite I go can't least there's a little something, but if then, if there's no, if there's nothing like mortify minus one, but I put its weight that you guys also still to an end. The presentation was was really incredible impressed with care it. I thought he was hilarious. He was really really funny and eighty years old I had no idea. He was that of lighting or, if I didn't know he was eighty years unless he has also involve young. He still looks great destiny, doesn t he still perform, while he did for a long time, of downtown, for while yeah he's got one, I think Turkey's mid will sure on sunset or something like that that he's trying get going any wants to introduce new comics. Its, I think, is pitching at his show to our like jazz comedy A comedy part hate the jobs we need a locations,

about it. You're gonna pay about matters joke about like scouting jazz guys, you say, is a kind of that. Guy interprets like us because he and I was like WWW base up the basis of greasy play drums rain euro trucker player. What about you Katy? Why can I can topic? drop. It has met with a great deal. I was always like improvised yours. It's like we're, never gonna play whatever to play at a thing that we have to recognise that we never never gonna play it ratified it You can also go our dreamers joke about jazz, like you can't stand. A big like like improv Jazz, just sounds like running errands like that's, not gonna, go to there's baron, I got its guard, the streets clothes I mean I would love to if you don't mind a sort of talk about the founding of the groundlings,

the early days of the groundlings and because I I just and all those who sent a couple days ago. We were talking about like the sort of formation of modern Improv Comedy, which he I think he was in improbably early, one of the earliest generations, of what how impressed kind of his now I wrote a second lizzie and yet how an album? Yes, yes, because it comes Sir or he was either compass or an offshoot of compass. But he was in that sort of a region like one of the original version, early sixties, grain and and oh in the seventies. There's this massive boom. It starts to happen where people are not just participating in comedy, but going out to sea live comedy, and you have you know like a wave of super comics prior and Carlin and Robin and all these huge, comedians explode and then you know they go out. People go out to sea life. Shall so what was sort of the UN's adoption of that? And how did it happen? Well,

experience was I. I was a cow large for like three minutes and I met Paul Rubens there. He was like a architectures your son, like that his hair was as long as mine in trying to imagine that- and I just didn't like Kellogg's wasn't for me but my sister was in this improv workshop that was run by the sky, Gary Austin, who had been involved with the committee, but I don't really know how. But I went to the workshop and the people in it were, like Jack Sue, HAT Merida TIM Matheson Veil, We who is actually Jaynes cousin, but was writing partners with lemon sin and a bunch of other people that on to be sure runners fur in our shows in the eighties projects through the guy was the embargo Miller back I ran cowards.

There's no, this off the ground for this new and we're just a workshop disabled Guph around and stuff, and started doing shows where the Oxford Theatre in a neighborhood that I just love, Blaine capacitors quote about this looks like a good place, give up, but that it was the neighbourhood that our theatre within we just doing shows, and then, after that we came up with the name. You know everybody wanted to be the groundlings. I thought that was Adobe name, that we would outgrow. So I voted for the workers, class, which I thought was very clever, very clever road lever and then we started doing shows from there. It was just that's how it happened and was the focus on games are long form or comedy you're not comedy was it was it bore act, ear was, was the focus initial

comedy comedy, it was really comedy. Was the basic improv games in presenting stuff that you may have come up with? and then we would have seen night where you zero dollars and four cents percent your new stuff and but then sketches would also come out of improv, which is very calm and that's usually how it works. And then you know Gary was our director and with a great director. Means so affirming and encourage and nurturing. Ah, he would create the show sky. You know the order and that was it and we were in a theater this was like a ninety nine see theater and you There are more people on stage then in the audience, It was also the audience was also composed of a lot of people that were part of that new Kommeni wave. The comedy store just opened

I was too young to get in. I wasn't twenty one yet so watch stuff through the curtain. And I would see people like Freddy, Prince and Richard prior. The step brothers, which I think was really De Luca bury Levin in and Craig T, Nelson and just all sorts of stuff that was knew. It was just but you would see people trying out new material like I saw Richard prior try out the spit about dumb, do when you bring, with some one, and you see them again and you you are somehow get them engage with. You say something like gum. New love, some figures at the place you get out. I got Ever you mean it know, was so to see all of that kind of stuff and there were all sorts of great drag clubs. If you can believe, On Beverly boulevard- and it never occurred to me to see that kind of stuff that content, but it was all there and it was fat.

This whale and flour and Madame started at that time, and I'm trying to think it was just at that time. It was a comedy store that was it interrelated. People do go into sketch there too. That's why yes we were doing schedule comedies doors we know but asked by one point they wanted to cast the new Smothers brother show so they had a lot of us audition on. Age in the original room, that really small and are remember them saying and now Valerie Brom Field and I'm thinking another job. Comedian. Now, you know, and Danner cords partner from Canada and a genius, an absolute genius with characters, and she honor for show. Actually we had you know. Ah, new talent and Billy Crystal was supposed to do it

but they wanted him to make internal cuts and his his bit. You couldn't do that in a one bit does depended on the next and the next and the next so said, I'm not doing what it was for him, but at the time was the first show we ever did so, who would have known how well the show would have done are we ever did so. Who would have known how well the show would have done, but she took his is so she's in the first episode and As you know, oh well, yeah I mean that those those early s

EL shows or so fascinating, because they I mean my parents notice that I was transfixed by ass, an hour when it started seventy five and am I but I was like four and my pair, I really yeah and my parents just noticed that I was transfixed by it and again they they didn't. Really. They didn't know God. This is a really appropriated at it, but it, but you know it's interesting about that about that show, is that it not every sketch, like murdered the audience. However, there was something so different in raw and unique and special coming out of the sixties. Everything's all rosy in its wasn't smothers brothers, the great How would it be in it certainly a gene its own way and laugh in what, but it was all sort of like This was very much in that

greedy real and this shit that people really talk about? And you know I remember some sketches Bill Murray going. I think it was like an std sketch videos my penis hearts. When I read a chemical rested, a schedule, I just a rubber. I think it was built saying that I know well Frank and wrote it, but I don't remember who said it I'm so impressed by the fact that you are interested in at the age of or oh yeah cause. You know I have kids, I know what they're like it for and that's just amazing to me what would once when Steve Martin start coming on and Steve started blowing up. You know I was transfixed by him. So my parents who started buying me the albums then and but at all, at all. Really kid all really came from from ESA now, and so was You know that process of, because you're a lot of people are

and city writer they came down from second city or how did you kind of flowed into that group had worked with Lorn one before on a Lily Tom, on special she and Lorn, Kay see the show at the Oxford theater I didn't know they were in the audience and they can mean her special. They had seen the valley, girl and lily had character named Susie Sorority, and so they cast my character and that I had like one line. Played so well in the red through they gave me a bigger part, which was so thrilling, and a lot of groundlings are all through that special. I also you came to him that I think the last at midnight tabling ass. I was so exciting end and it was. It was really great to have you there and then, a couple days later, I get this package in the man like. What's this and it's the original killer, bees sketch,

that you sent me you go. I thought you might like to have. This would imply Bela getting a job like it belongs in because it so Christine, so well preserved. The only way that you can tell that it's not new or is it it's written on a typewriter? Yet so it's either like old or a hipster wrote it it's just an end no. It's like the little notes in its disaster, rust where the staple was the paper. I did you think like that, like why'd, you hold onto it in Cuba I don't know, isn't as I like, it's gonna have stuff, I go listen to me, but it just Clarice Starling hears about this guy, there's a lot of stuff I've thrown out. Then I wish I hadn't, because I am a compulsive, cleaner and divest her to my regret but Tom you I kept a lot of sketches are kept. Conan Aids and land shot

I can answer ass leasing once an episode of us resigned cedar, I write a launch. Archer really is ancient, doesn't knock at the door at the letter I mean it's one of those with a lot of sketches. You can sort of do the bath and go can see where they started. Maybe they ruled this one backward and ended with a jump when shortly soils wanderers like someone just typical by an idea that it's just uniquely them was who was a chubby who was there? I don't know who wrote that I don't have any I wish I could tell you. I think I love what you're getting at, which is the idea that our sketches were very personal and it was the kind of stuff there that we would think about. But it's like other people. That's crazy, because you really also thought we are working in a vacuum. We had no idea if anybody was watching us We're like the Red headed step child. You know NBC. They gave us like all the fur

sure their shit furniture from like that. In the early seventies of that horrible barf palette in brown invasion In- oh, I guess no had any idea I wanted. I went to personnel at the end of last year and I I was chatting warn about, and I said all arranged sent me: the original killer be sketch and just kind of not negotiator. I came over Christmas day, that when I remember that like he could remember, remember even writing it and it just as you know, for me going to personnel- and I said this device like this- is So I guess it's like a living museum, it's a living, breathing museum to even be in here, because you walk down the hollowness. Just all the group shots over the years and you think about their just

I mean the closest thing, maybe might be like the simpsons or something that just where you can tell like, has been so influential to Carmody and so and you know even this far and still be making social commentary and still be on and is still be. You know and again, if I thank every sketch Knox it out of the park, but the ones that do are amazing and also your writing. A fucking ninety minute show Everyone, in like four days by working days, demanded its mind blowing to me yeah, and you know that a third of the month, because I don't think we did for a month. We did three, that show was either abysmal. Brilliant. Has everybody was so tired? You know you either produced the greatest stuff or the worst, and one could ever never tell which it would be no So I don't know I'm I imagine if you were to look at

pattern and really look at them. You would see that pattern, there's a sketch that we did that. In the ensemble sketches to me or the ones that really make me laugh still. Uncovered this one with Steve. Martin was called beatniks and it's such a good, presentation of Michael O Donnell use, writing style Tom Schiller. I think it's a bunch of other people might have written on it, but it's one of my favorite sketches that we ever did and its long is like twelve minutes. But everybody is so great in it and it is so deep the comedy and it is so deep. I think Steve Small Steve, with one of those little who's out is like the sick, comic goons was to be Lenny, Bruce. Clearly, lucy comes out is like the sick. Comic was to be Lenny Bruce clearly and he really play,

this guy, who is strung out and only the band is laughing at me and you know Think I was an angry Jew S is a door. Schwartz who comes out does Martin dance, I mean just it's so tasty. You guys should watch it that available on yeah, maybe go on. I d rather have theirs, and it there's that there's a personnel at that has, like almost any sketch you could ever want? Well, I had no idea what we were talking about. The disc, a nap, case is a place where things leave box. Then it is a little rectangular box, but it's a yell, the bigger the most obscure sketches you can think of. Almost all of them were are in there and you just take it up in it It comes up or if you d say I want to see like Joe Piscopo biologist brings up. All the

yeah, they didn't read its it is. It is a public service to people who are advanced comedy here now. I love that yeah. I might have to pull it out before you leave just to suit like we can just tested to see. If it look for the superheroes Party, What did I remember, the one that is the real revolution comes as a whole can get over it like took a ship tat, Thou wilt, thou, it's fantastic. I mean it did so you didn't really I understand what it was in the beginning. It was just like we have this opportunity and we're just gonna do what we do and who knows what I am saying. This vote is gonna, be thirteen weeks and I think we all really believe that because at least even though we were- beginners. We knew not to expect it to be lasting. You know,

is like in Lorn presented to me at the chateau. He citizen is thirteen weeks with a five year option and I'm thinking that'll ever happened. There we were- and I think it was second year Guilder, our walking. I think on Fifth avenue or something and people were yelling out our our lines from the night before and that's what realize that people were actually watching us. That was exciting for that's insane, because you, you know when you think about where you came from just groundlings improved either their typically just very small, very intimate, and you knew usually just like other Just a special thing. That's just for us like us, in a hundred people galley the cool people that showed up for the right, the new but then, but then to think that all the southern public people, like you, know shouting You know I M from France or whatever it is Oh wow. This is way better.

Then we are, I mean. Is that does not affect the type of comedy your writing? Or do you start? Do you have not given fight the urge, like all my god, we need to write popular sketches now. Well, I think it was a practical business decision on mourns part to repeat characters that were popular. You know, and I think that made sense, but in terms of the actual content he was very clear that the audience comes to us We don't go to them and I think he's always maintain that, except for the Trump stuff it keeps go. On and on and on me. I think in the first five years for sure we we did not serve the audience. We we did what we presented, what we thought was funny, and hopefully they got it and liked it, and that was really the most

edifying aspect of it because up until then, all of that material was so. As I said personal to us, and we never saw anything that looked like us on tv before when now Lorn had cast me in the show. I was still in LOS Angeles. She says I want you to go meet. Dick ever saw he's the producer, and I thought I'm finished. Because you know I've never seen anybody that look like me on tv, but he turned out to be such a great guy. I went to see him of the Beverly Hills Hotel and I talk through a screen door because he had no Mona zone. You now and he said yeah. I come from the wide what wide world of sports through so that completely clear fire me for comedy anyways so endearing you know, did you did heeding the sketches at a certain point, was their rejection to that of like I don't want to do this again. Want to do something new or was it just sort of part of the well? That was my mindset.

To my everlasting regret, but I dont know that other people felt that way. I I can't say where did worded cone heads come from well born in the beginning, had us do improv at his loft in an effort to make the cast. You know gel, which a good idea, but it never really caught on, but one improv we did several improv. Some one was an alien family, so Danny dad Jane was the mom and I was a kid and I came up with like this and then Tom Beavis and Danny what Easter Island and they saw either the bigger big heads that only Howard Hunt, so it happened a lot of knowing that spirit. As the idea I mean that sketch lived off when it was called a movie,

Cod is what was like. Ninety one. Ninety two, ninety five wasn't really is. My answer was a red actually per song, rack, and so that was from this album after Sudan. I would add a note, a huge red, actually peppers venue, as they pepper. You're going to have a permanent hammerheads. That's guys you like that other ragged m o that trigger versus Jackie. I wasn't it there is a distinction between tracker and tracking. I don't know I there. I dont think that, really is one anymore, but in the early days offend am, I think I think most most start advance. What identifies track is ok I better tracker does this outright to me. I don't think I don't think most people would think most people go along with it now, but you I read that your time that you kind of didn't love being in New York at that time. Well, I was very young and very inexpensive

announced and I was in a very kind of familial situation at the groundlings. My sister was there my older brother round lights, and- was I had my place. You know when and presented this idea to me and said, and you don't mind, living in New York to you and I'm thinking about what I'm over you aren't like. Away from my groundlings family away from my family. I didn't know. Nobody except Lorn, so it was difficult for me and also when you come from a car culture. I know minuscule sounds, but you feel so imprisoned when you can't drive yourself around. You know, God forbid, you wanna do like a girl, three shopping and pick up your dry cleaning and one days is complete, toil and I know that sounds really mundane, but it was one of the things it was really kind of depressing to me, but it gives you a trip on the shoulder

which were jobs are push your way through people on the subway? I just had such a West Coast mentality, which was so open and candid and my impression of the east when I living. There was that you can't be like that. You know, because I measures because everyone just to survive that city, they walk out of their building and I just like the bubbling goes up cause you just can't you just can engage with that many people at once. I think it's just a protective measure like I just need to get where I'm going and push through interest and not have to deal with. We donate bubbles we have cars out. Right are models who did you like so you're you're goin out their euro young? Who did you can do tat a bit cover friends like on the shower. The outside. The show guilder was my first friend yeah,

it took me over to. She was in the middle of doing that. Lampoon Album! That's not funny that sick, and so that's when I first met. Harold Ramis and Bill Murray and Brian Doyle, Murray and Bob Titular and they said hey, why don't you come, Lord with us, so I did a Chris gas too. And so those are like some of the first people. I met and then when I met Tom Schiller he looked for failure to me and we had gone to the same grammar school nowhere. I recognized him from that. My sister had been his camp counselor. You know it's some interest all connected all very connected with that. The national front crowd Canada, that feel a low similar to the groundlings. Now It was so unto itself. I really didn't know anything about the lampoon. I had never read it.

When worn presented the show to Missus it'll be a cross between sixty minutes. Monty python wonders in Python. I'm just thinking that you now and not in my head enthusiastically, well sure at the time when you just things were not as accessible Ria, you couldn't just zones. Finally, even now, I'm just I'm looking at the US an alibi in seconds. I'm gonna have this happened when I find I think, but if someone send money pilot then you're in America. Oh, that's interesting! What is is that its thing? What is this you know like you did. Some would have to couldn't even gives some want to tape. I don't even I don't. What you would do. I wouldn't I dont know what my route to finding them would have been right. I know that if I found them I would have loved them, but I just did ever came into my atmosphere? I I would be willing to bet that those in the seventies, it must have been like forty million people in it.

Watching as me like I'm. I would imagine the numbers staggering, because there's only three channels at the time and no on Saturday night, like that, our people are out. You know what else is there you know, so I would imagine. Do you know what the numbers were? in those days now you see, Chris I was thinking about me most of the time, and I have no idea what the numbers were. I mean you know at the The Monday meeting we were pitched too the toast we would get the numbers and just kept, getting better and better and better. You know, and of You know what the share now with so many so much content. It's nothing compared to the share. You would get when there's only three chat or you re like if you, if you go to

If you get a few million people watching something there like great it's ahead, yeah exactly I mean it's just not the same thing at all shows like that. The tat some of the top rated shows today would have been cancelled near a couple decades ago by God, no, it's like an unknown, but what was the culture at that time I mean, I think, when some people think about when I think about I got, must have been crazy. People run around you and drugs and it was not and it was chaotic, did you feel that way? Is that not a correct perception of what was going on and then that's somewhat accurate. You know, I think that just the blush, the first blush of that kind of success, none of us really were prepared for that. And all the things that come with it. You know the publicity, the attention, the doors that opened the free stuff, so I think that, for

all of us in some way, because we all do have a hole in ass, a God. She told that's really here. I can't imagine that any of us were feeling Jimmy Jimmy Jimmy- and this was great- it was exciting. Exciting is work groups Finally, in any kind of in a decade of access like the seventies, where it's just like Just go and drugs people foggy. Like all of those things that you think about, I mean I was you know I was. I lived through the seventies, but I was a child. I don't really know. I can't really say that I know exactly what they were. Like New York in the seventies at that time must have been fuck it. Bananas. Well, you know there's one misconception about the drugs situation, which is that somehow you know they couldn't take there success, so they go.

Look don't drugs, you know nobody's gonna, do that they're not already predisposed to it sure you know I know I came there were the problem. Already too, you know you're. So we know some of us were just. Luckier than others, but I remember when the rolling stones were hosts. They had guy who had pharmaceutical coke and that different data Keith riches as late as what he says is like how survived all, could see no like he takes it like a prescription, drugs, ghettos. Exactly how about you look at our different. It's really different. You know I'm just trying to remember the spirit of that co operate, and this is delightful goes, is delicious. There's a story c mon celebrity like he showed it to like to housing. You look out.

And Sir Talkin to learn and then Dan Accord came in and he was like bested up like a like wet. Unlike what happens on a roadmap by God to Jersey it broke down. I tried to thumb a ride back in I got to a car and then I was we got up to speak. I kicked me out on the turnpike What did you ever hear of that happening? I didn't hear that story, but Danny, certainly a city. And of the world was really really want because, like AIDS, I, when I read then humans book just like I never would have thought I you know, I thought he like liked call somebody did not let you ran bumptious do like them, he was a fearless you know some of the greatest performers I've ever seen like Phil, Hartman and Danny key Michael key. These are some of the best and providers I've ever seen in my life and one

they all seem to have in common is that they are fearless and Danny is just you know. He takes a pig bite out alive and he does it for no other reason not for his image. He's not self conscious about it. It's just his real essence. As someone who is an adventurer. You know, but was there as the shows getting successful. I would imagine there those things that happened. Words like us persons. Getting more sketches than me or that of that character, but my character didn't know I got cut but other Oh, I want to go to my old thing, but all of you I mean was, did that start percolating? Did it you know, and if so, how did you navigated? Well, it happened for everybody at one point or another, we're still happens, I'm sure it's just that people, the good thing

while the cast now and over the years as they their little more mature, you know they ve come there. Had more experience, they understand the lay of the land. None of us did I mean guilder, was really clever, and she collaborated with Alan's. Why Bell, whose a superb writer, but I certainly couldn't see the big picture, so I collaborated with some people but was obvious. I mean, like John, had a tough time with cherries success in and so on, and so we know everybody dealt with it there, own way. I heard the so I built told me that o Brien, said about writing on the show that was like getting beaten up, the schoolyard every day you know it's tough, it's it's not it's gold atmosphere- and I know it was only after I hate to say this, but it was only after that

that I knew that there was such a thing as a happy set because it wasn't at that time. It was unhappy set biologist. I mean you know you everything about it was so new. You know it's like the dead. The groundlings is relatively new, with that point and then all of a sudden. This format is new in the seventies word new and stop it. There so much did die and all its almost unfair because you were prepared to process at all and its also it. It was also not, now where people are like, maybe you should get into be let's try to talk about it or let it was just like burgundy. I get up yet so its firm for a variety of reasons,

When I look back at better, I go it's a wonder. Anyone survived, you know. Any of that stuff is crazy to me. I don't see you never predict what's going to happen and it was, I guess, a social phenomenon at the time and then over the. Here's the show matured, just as any other entity would, you know, so I think it was different. Did I hear this correctly that when, because you know every one kind of spoken, there getting the induction into the into the whole thanks for bill, but that's it gotta comforting to know like hey a guy like that who is literally one of the most success comedy forces who is given some of the most iconic performances that could never be replicated by anyone and is in multiple of my favorite movies of all time could still go. Oh man, I wasn't it

men's like yeah, but didn't Yanks worked out for you that people have multiple tattoos of your face. It isn't that also Irene, so this kind of- putting to you, as I got, killed herself into asked an in depth portended with link in a routine clannish them, whether that Southern gotta thing that yet another burberry just like he's just appears. Sometimes you might appear your bar mitzvah. He might appear. You know at a wedding. He might dj its then you just never know yeah I mean he takes a bite out of life in his own way. You know not really caring about her he's perceived he's curious and that's what I think is so compelling about him, but what I noticed with him is because he, when he was watching when he was watching the sketches any was watching. All of you except the award. He was smiling and he was genuinely laughing at the sketches and it occurred to me that he's just a guy

who's been doing this for so long. That sort of condition that, if he's not interested in something he doesn't really have to pretend to be interested, but when he's interested he's interested so if you say if this isn't a situation and he doesn't really feel like being there, he just doesn't be there and if he's excited than he'll be excited, and so it s kind of gave me a real at a different Standing of a guy, don't really know. Well, it's good to see people's humanity year in our hands in the perspective of someone who in our minds and actually truthfully is unimaginably successful. An idiosyncratic at the same time he does what he does and it's not guided by any? You know popular vision of what has to be or should be. It's him you now, and he has been

yeah, but I can imagine it's weird, though. When all day every day people like over got your genius sober go, do the, but oh my god, you that I mean you. I think someone might go. What's I can imagine it's weird, though, when all day every day period, I got your genius other go. Do the, but oh my god, you that I mean you. I think someone might go what's wrong with that like well, because there is a disconnect from reality because you, as a person, don't walk you most p Well, don't walk the earth and go what a genius like at a certain point that would you might be like uh, that's great, I just you know you would probably build up a little bit of armour. You know cause it's kind of a strange. Its I think, is humans. As much as we strive for things it can. You're a little odd when the spotlight is on you when you're not on stage, you know. That's got to feel a little story, not in control of it is a rare experience, I'm sure, but but seeing Chevy at the thing kind of it

mistaken did. He say like it was a big mistake that I left after the first season. Remember him saying that, but I trust you I thought he alluded to and maybe was something kind of under his breath, but I just remember: I was watching it backstage on a monitor and just going up. That's really interesting. It felt to me. Like he was saying, like you know, I left this thing in. That was probably stake at the time, but I was, you know, go room stuff. I think the cherries you know at a stage in his life for his willing to expose that vulnerability. You know and admit that there are things in his life that he regrets. Especially since he's been, you know we're now and is kind of a national right, and I think that he absolutely regrets that and is hurt by the things that people say absolutely devastated by it. That's my impression.

Right to be ass. It was a terrible impression of tourists. Are you mad you look back at those early sketches too. There are so many of them. Even with the killer be sketch, were you go? I candidate could do that today. I would get away with that yeah. You know that the show, even though it was edgy for the seventies, what is like I think a lot of those early sketches or just way today immediately given how could you say that your marginal, how could you funny you know, but at the time it was just there was a different. So we say like it's three dangerous to go back and look at an older comedy with present eyes is it goes over. There were different conversations going on at the time and right or wrong it's just this is what came out of

culture at that time, but it is still, but even to three and the killer racism. Like I don't know, I don't think I gave you Uncle Roy to your January, alien wrong, and now that I have kids, it's like cheese It was like. So like you put in the five years. What at what point did you start to get kind of tired of it and worn out and late? did you get miserable and were you looking forward to that five year, contract Vienna, I was looking for going home and it was clear that law I wasn't going to stay so we didn't want to stay. I was very homesick the whole time I was there. I was home sick, so is very much looking forward to going home, but I wouldn't say that, sick of the work sketch. As I said, you know what that induction the most fun work I've ever done. I love it. You know,

there are shows on like now like another period and drunk history, though, shows to me, are so funny and look like so much fun to do I mean I would be surprised, Did you ever do another period now and I'm dying? Doktor Ricky had some some event and I can't believe what I said too, because I am not the kind of person that would say I could We know why, but I think I said something like that to her and I'm so mortified that I did o again wishes. I just I want to do that shows Thirdly, again I'm so delighted that you had a moment where you said something because you got excited many media was to do that worker go, there's some movie where that what is it? Is it star? Eighty, oh, never just ignore me.

But sir we're not going to marry the guess, we're going to fully focus on year without one when and your peril when he came back to allay after us now did you have a plan or re expecting like Things to start can come in your way. Will labor? Was this the? What was your life like just shortly after you? Well, I grew up in LOS Angeles. I grew up part of the time in Beverly Hills. So you know we were across the street from EDGAR Bergen down the street from Kirk Douglas around the corner from Groucho Marx and I as teenager nature would see, actors that had been honour, a series and there were no longer on a series, and that was a look on there. Face. There was one I never wanted to have on mine and,

and to it it. I had no plans to be a performer anything, but I intuited that it was a miserable state it can be doesn't have to be, but for a lot of the people I saw, seemed to be, and so I was prepared for that possibility, and it was a good thing. I wish. I were sad. I see em and they package me in a lot of stuff, but it wasn't really until I started to do animation, that I had a real possession of myself and of my work and what I really felt I was good at because I didn't you know I was introduced. To my limitations. How do you do my your big? and you know I realize it was tough for me to do other people's material. I didn't know how I think part of it was just the years and years of being high since age. Fourteen I didn't

have reference. You know I'm so unnecessary myself from the experiences of life that fundamental things that are written. I didn't know them, I didn't understand them or how to do them so and thus very distracting when you try and work- and you know that it's it's not quite right. You know that you're not nailing it, but once I found animation, I was really home. That's what I just love doing so much in its. It took me a long time, rake in chaos jam having a moment she was opening up Oh my god. I knew it is our do so many more

This? Is noise fire I gotta get never fucking despite caterpillar guessers could survive without me more than it did so cute. Sweet young voice in the background Katy. Is that design right? Isn't it Did you look at me? I just did no one's gonna gaiety before the ban. I wish I could do I love zone, your voice, so it is so sweet and youthful. You know what you are, but I mean sometimes people don't have that tone gaining whatever. However, here your you look is that of vein. I see vocal code has noted, so it took me to solid years auditioning for animation,

and then I got a series and I never stop working well and it's very rarefied world. You know we have to have release a specific set of talents, sketches so great for that world, because you have you actually, auditioning or even if they just throw characters that you and the mother got it just doesn't. Do you have to build a character like that recently, almost no information in May. The reference, maybe drawing yeah, maybe a drawing, and I both know Andrea Romano. She gave me my first job. What was it, which was pinky in the brain, did not know, Rob pulse numerous Lamar and in that session my stomach was gurgling law, I was so mortified and then they embarked on this thing. Not knowing that I'm one of the nine women in the world the thinks, farts or funny making these fart noises and I I I don't know how I got through that session. I was laughing so horizon. And you know the sound effects that Rob was making. That was clearly water.

And matter landing into order. I was unbelievable. I was just I was dying and always easily about those people really are the best at such a great community. And there is also no this is no boundaries in the sense that the you know, a good voice over group will come in know how to fuck around but then focus when they need to focus and then continue fucking around, but are front Andrei Romano, retired, and so she had and cheap. She was she was, by just a few years ago when it was one of those ones where people listen and they would set they talk to me about it. For months and years I did know who she was, but when we started talking- and I saw what she was involved with- and it ended up inspiring me Andreas, like a halo of warp, yeah and and really was responsible for so much of what made people's childhood

like all of the Warner Brothers animation. While you know the original Batman, animated series, tiny tunes Anna Maniacs Pinky in the brain, like all of it, that's all Andrea Romano here and she is very well Norman and very sweet- and so you know her retirement party was this, who Who of Zimbabwe? Talented? You know like you and Marchand Oh and phalion, and Weird Alan Paul, Reuben John Demise, John Demagogy, oh and Paulson, Maurice Le Martian in time, Kenyans everyone got up and in spoken, but then it occurred to me ever like. It was almost like a eulogy really exciting. This lady now she's still gonna miss out of the industry. Like a kid, it's like. No, you can still come back at you. I really I wish he would, but was also fund about Andreas shows is Warner brothers. Does it as a play? All you know they dont record you separately, you're, all there

recording so you do the show like a play- and that is the most fun it's the most fun. Way to do it and she's such a good director, and she taught me so much and then First. The first series I did was hysteria or Europe. And the cast was Maurice. The marsh run, Parson just our new trust, Macneil, Billy, West Jeff, Bennet, Jesus and Frank Welcome, oh my god and me. Why do near? It was amazing, with your grounding member of ESA now who all that doesn't always translate. Believe me, but you I found my niece. I mean persons, one of those guys that he kept in Japan it. Way indeed Bradley Bakers, always where you you can't always track them. In a book

their ranges or so the that Paulson Paulson can sing sing. We're high, full and then go low, and you can't it's like these guys do, just something going on there: click through it yeah yeah, yeah, there's something that's going on in these throw. Thank you hear these old stories about melt blank about how you know he could do daffy duck imitating bar like you, I like you, could you characters imitating other characters? So wasn't him doing? Gabby was like I'm so, but these guys have that same that same sort of skills that Indonesia

just like a fucking bulldozer here. Did you know him and Kevin Michael Richardson are unbalanced, operable I knew well, I think, Debats Bradley Baker, especially Anne Frank worker, in terms of sound effects. I was talking to steal, Martin about Frank Walker, cause they did stand up at the same time and he said the term Frank. Did this sound effects of a duck with her clings walking through a stream and all of the water. The mother duck the ducklings. You know he had never seen anything like it, but stand up was never a thing that appeal to you in any way.

No, that was I'd, never wanted to be by myself on stage you know, although at the groundlings that's exactly what I was for the most part, I did character monologues while they change the sets, but now stand up as a whole, different animal, and it's so funny to me, because people think that's my background and it's not in any way and both my kids are doing standard of enjoying good here They have an aptitude well, the other lsd of landscape. I always as so exciting it's a good time. They're out. There is a lot of really good. Then of course, sadly make no bones about to close watch closing why I guess I'm just kind of you did it for twenty five years. He's just is moving on

a bunch other stuff that he's doing its work. Things out with community good, focused on a guy, see like it's a he's ending it on his terms, will also I mean it's not the best time in the world to own a giant comic book shop on major street, like Sunset Boulevard Heart, where the part insects, but also just you know it's just like where any bookstore would have the same. You know our people are buying stuff on apps or there are just only through Amazon and done is entirely, and so it's you know, but that community with such a great community, because the nurse either within the back in and there were classes and people recommit they please. Indeed so you know. I hope there is another clubhouse. He thing I did. He had a large, as are the Lyric Theatre on Hyperion like that's becoming western state I started, have the feel of the meltdown. Oh good was that where they do hot tub, I know

Oh that's! A regional areas like it's on its appearance over lake at it, so the out, like a theory but never started, doing weird gonzo shows and plays and saw comics, Joyce, experimental, stuff and people say like it feels like like a lax creating meltdown kind of stuff. Here the website comedy theatres. That to my son, I gotta Bismarck. Those closer the website for company can be a little tough. I know, but for me owing to the east side as much as I want to it's like this line up on goddammit say on the couch, a lot of traffic in law, it seems like that. You know whatever you are going through at that time and whatever sort of drugs. You did in whatever sort of you know it see. It seems like you got your shit together, casino you we ve. Actually, we ve had conversations reformatory, you ve sort of make jokes about like,

My over therapies, opinion on this is or something I mean like was that was what how did you kind of emerge from all that stuff? And how did you start to get healthier? Well, I wanted to live. I really wanted to live. I thought that I wanted to die and but it wasn't happening fast enough. I think that there is an element of any drug addict there. They just don't care about the consequences that in the back of their mind, they know that they could die, but they don't care because they want to get out of that feeling so badly. I think close to my bottom. I found myself a passenger in the front seat of a car being driven by hundred Thomson he's like balancing a tumbler of whiskey during his cigarette cigarette and, incidentally, driving even as Octopus. I wasn't time I thought this is risky,

You shouldn't be here. Right now lie, and so in I just I got point where I couldn't not at all. I was in such beds, shape it wasn't that I would go to an audition high, but the mindset. I was so depressed that in infected my bearing in those situations- and I was eighty five pounds it was gruesome and my agent called me after one that I knew was abysmal. He said there. How do you think of what I said was terrible? Is one glad that you are aware of at because they called me and they wanted to know what was wrong with you. You know, and they said they then wondered if you had aids- and I was like I obeyed a coke, add a garden

indignation I now, but I dont have a disease as well as I do that this is an accident. So I checked myself into a Brockman Memorial Hospital Chemical Dependency unit. When he gave nineteen eighty seven knowing that I would get a or anything like that. Just thought be able to learn how to do drugs healthy, good way, perker certain things like that and dumb whatever it was it. I heard I was ready to here, and I think one of the things was you don't have to live like this and it just changed my life and I've never look back I've. Never I had long being inadequate that you know. I forgot that I

was I mean I've had pain killers in the house and forgotten about them and then, like one day, I was like got shit day. I'm gonna go. Take this purpose. Hey, I'm added a bit like the bustle memory of just acting for the thing I mean it's. I think it's good for people to hear stories like that, because, first of all, when you're in it most people myself included, you always feel like that's fine. I got this is it's part of my thing. You know like I'm, just recreational I've got my thing right.

And then but then, when you get to the other side, then you have the right all that's why others, whilst this in this and that's? Why that things that you think are so if you saw someone else to go, puts very obvious, creating a lot of this Europe of running away and you need to you know, but it, but when you're in it it's very it's very hard to see. I have to say I always knew that one sister I couldn't stop. I knew that I had a deadly problem and that I never, I don't think kidded myself about it, and it was a mean I was kid, and so it was just like the natural progression it with sugar, and then it was done and Elsa now it's watching tv, but it's I never had any doubt that it was up

I always knew that so that when I became sober you know I knew what to look for new or to look for in my thinking that would justify any kind of bullshit and I knew how to avoid, because I was taught how right because it doesn't, you know when you first gets over it doesn't fix. All of your problem is, of course, just gives you the clarity to do the work to figure out. Why explore? How do you know how to begin? The process of fixing moving on patching holes growing getting stronger, serve. Thickly said. Yes, I just you know. I always I got my intervention plan Yes, we love the driver in line with the aim. We must be honest but but but it just so, I caution people at this

happening again sober and I will say to them like look. Don't expect that the second it happens because that can make people relapse ago. Why quit? and boxes have not gone better? You know this is where you have to just you know: don't they about it all at once, just focus on the one day to time thing. But you know that it's a process and that you know it will before you know it, you know one day I was as kind of feel I kind of you. Ok, that's new! The first year when I took my first year, chipper cake whenever I was furious, because I had my feelings now. You know something I fought village Let lay to not have so you know it took me a long time. The inventory, so great because they really force you to look at your thinking and your behavior but boy. I but I just knew that that wasn't an option anymore. I couldn't go back to it. I knew that also you know people can slip and come back. I knew I did not have a second recovery.

May I knew it so there was no way I was gonna. Take that chance. You have that's an important step to, as is also recognising respecting the power of your addiction yeah. Just knowing you know, I mean I I know now still and I've said the Lady for I don't ever miss it, but I know like oh if I, if I had one if I had one drink, I said it would probably be a couple weeks before I would be because I'd I'd know I wouldn't want to stop. I would just want to keep doing it and always remembering that is really helpful, because I go well that's a choice, but I do what I want that I want this other choice, and so you know that's that's what I choose to do it's a wonderful place to be it's a wonderful kind of knowledge to have, and it's also a great way to live, the responsible being honest

you do something to someone you immediately on it and apologize. That's a great way to live near. Do how did she was there? a period of time where you felt like well now going go back and try to undo some of the damage of career stuff and let everyone know that I'm ok and look at What my work options are. Where were you just like an even bother with that? I'm just going to focus on being healthy and not even think about work, stuff yeah. That was the first thing, and then you know I got back into taking classes of the groundlings. The law classes and creating new Karen where's. My sister was a teacher and director there and I just thought Oh I've got to learn how to do things that a lot of people already know how to do, and that was hard on. Two, because you know you you, your wake up in your thirty five and it's like I'm a middle lessened.

This is embarrassing it out, but I have the humility to understand this gonna, be my story and my path and one I have always been, is passionate and curious about the things I love like music and comedy still always really love it, and

inspired by it, as I say so, the things that interest me in life or would inspire me and make me joyous and even being able to accept that feeling of joy is like a big deal like it's a brand new Yorkers. You know those people who have what we have done wanted her. They were shut down or they feel like they don't deserve it in some way. Well, I'd like to meet him now, I'm no people, let her like that too, is heartbreaking. Yeah, but you know, I think, when people here that they hear you say that whenever this comes up on the park ass, some people go get yours over, but it's all, but it's always for, like a handful of people go. I just heard that at the right time, yeah just Scotty curious than it

Just got me on this path and for you that's wake. When, when you're therapists, just kind of mentioned to you about Ghent, sober, you said it was just that right, Mama mean former S, an outcast member PAMELA Stevenson. What did you know? I didn't know she began. I didn't know her, but she became a therapist. Yes, she was my finger. Was the therapies? That's always. Why did I was very real economies, and so young and mutual friend of ours connected ask. As you know, someone said, might the girls dating at the time said? Oh, you should probably just talked with Airbus and figure out why you know, and I think we just figured out in front of my was like our you know, my but my friend PAMELA Stevenson, unlike oh, my god, what a great therapists she is, a comedian who was married to can mediate. Yet him panel was the one that has just said. One day after like a year, she was like you like shit, go to. We have right now like girl guy,

didn't you a question like I guess I can. You know, like we use our guests like do that yeah sure? While I was in a therapy with a woman, there was a very big german looking woman who was from Argentina? Neither simple Ando were the first thing she said to me, as I can't treat you until you sober, and that was one in I checked myself in, and it was humiliating too because I felt like what more of a cliche could I be. There A late night tv actor, whose again comedies of drug addicts but you know what you have to forgive yourself that stuff. Well, it is what it is, but it is, but it is one of those slippery slope swear like you, so I woke up one day and I was thirty five and you know

Just go where did five years ago or where to ten years ago or how about here, but it's never too late to just score rap. All that in just start today start from today. So what what lessons do you feel like you're, still learning or what things do you still feel like you know, are valuable. To you, the big one that I am working with now, that is really made a difference for me is that people Do not see me the way I see myself, I'm a twin and so I am used to being able to someone else, but I can't read other people. I think I can, but I can not so- and I always assume the worse in people's behaviour like I know how I am when I want to keep people at arm's length and if I see that be

however, in some one else. Well, that's what they're doing you know, but I can't assume that is an arrogance that I'd I need to. Let go of me. Its poison. It's so undermining too because her whole life you trying to prove yourself. You known you trying to get someone to like you, when, first of all, you can't control that, but you gotta come off like you like yourself. I know this is pretty Is it shit, but you know she's, gonna, learning and radio. I mean it just now for sure it resonates so well, and you know listen, it's not that not religious in any way. But it's it's interesting to me that sometimes things are happening in my life and in somewhat come on the packet and I ll go God, damn it. That's what I just I just had an experience were the last like us, where I ran into some people that I that I met for the first time in and what was that all I really enjoyed when you were so

in on the Kelly Ripa show and You need to know if you have a really wanted to do that job long term, and then I just proceeded to tell the story about what happens like oh and hears, but here was the behind the scenes and their illegal him. We get. It and I walked away going. Why did I just didn't mean to no one really knows like I'm such an arrogant yeah, I don't know how to contact these people and tell them that. I am sorry that I made a group of, like twelve people, listen to buy dumb fuckin story about she had on your compliment, I was wrong. What you're saying banks have a great day great day, and so I beat myself forward so so horribly and so just to hear you say like when you Joe really you go away. You know. Other people see you the way. You see yourself me out. No, what to take away from there was- and I still hate Myself- four, but God dammit, it's just so nice to hear you

say like you know. Just I don't know everything here, and it's also that the others, the Jack story, where the eyes, Carteret breaks down in the desert and whose, whose work the gas station. Would you like a mile away anything that guy's gonna gouge me he's gonna cheat me because he knows over a barrel them when he gets. There's, like you, son of a bitch, you nice, that kind of thing words like you projected certain thing and that's your reality and that's it right, and that is a fact way to live. It is, but I also know that this this bent my book this bed my mind one time, I think I think my therapist to to me, or I read it somewhere. Let's just say she said it. She said not PAMELA, but the one I'm talking now. She said Durham whenever you think about yourself, you're right and I was like holy shit because you manifest you create that reality. Some of you tell yourself you're a piece of shit you are because you believe it, and so you manifest that and you

choices along as I and she she doesn't mean it in a universal sense. But it's just that. That's what you may true for yourself. In other words, you really do have to have better talk and better. You know, don't don't always was hard to just assume that it's hard to believe that something that you ve trusted for so long might not be right, because it's like also your. To discern. What's funny has worked so why would you think that things that you perceive their negative or not right right. That is a hard won. The let go right. You know, especially if you want to believe that stuff here, which is now, do you have any like? Is it? Is it meditative or is it? Do you just go back

I can t bother with thinking that right now, you're, not manatee, Curls nominated velocity and now I'm too fidgety for that stuff, even though I know it's good, it's great job has been doing I'm not talking about that. That's great! It's real nice! It's I'm a bit more precise with my actions on a day to day basis, that's fantastic and if I don't feel it robots like a second Emily like yesterday's, like it's like a Felix, if I don't do it, my brain by the other day, physics, gonna, vibrate my skull, why am I knew it? The Oscar nominee Emily be Gordon but our yeah, it's like so it's that stuff. It's what's real nice and I did the same thing when my egg, my brains pop it all over the place. I get melted can clear my mind, but when you find there's all these different asthma attention, when you find the one that says you, ok, if you can clear mine, you know

like just one of thought, comes in the or the way you have held talks about ten. He says it's like it's your when embedded in a year and a boxing match with your thoughts and you're, just Bob and weaving and they you're just lend the thoughts pass. My not like you're, not getting further thought than holding onto a year dodging and that's a few from its own troubles, come at you throughout the day. It's like you know like ice. We can person. One little thing or one one bad tweet. One text where I may be messed up in our social ears they like that. I would just hold onto it and now I kind of kindest go well. You know it's like if, if it does If it is something that serious I will I will, I will come back to it, but in which doesn't really matter, but The idea of clearing your mind is really can largely be it the basis of addiction. I'm just trying to clear your mind is just too many thought.

Still want to feel all these things. No one of your these feelings are think all these things diagnoses digest, but it's like an, I think, it's a feelin think em, but dont like an onto let em control you right. That's what I like about the meditation and spin fantasy can they make that an appeal here. Friends of his big farmers, even get you need is no you, the blow it in your ass off, like stream, a lot faster level per second, you can impose a meditative ass. He read a demagogic book kitchen, the big fish, it's it's a spot where you just gotta has his own blurbs, who is here today with Lynch David Lee again He is he's my linens real big into the tin Woodman as a book called catching the big fish and etc. It's this its thoughts on creativity. Yes, it has like in others all these. Some chapters are just for senses, long, just dislike quick little book to read and

It's some of the chapters are just about how he likes going to like Busby boy style, dinars and getting it wrong shake unlike he says it or something so need about sitting just stricken Sunday, you like and then like watch people that's being present, yeah, academia, that's it that's the teams and varied it does help you be present, but I had the book for years. My friend Donald gave it to you bought it for me, because I was like David Lynch Stuff, and he was at the bookstore any looked across the aside- a bookstore Matt graining was there and sorry he's like hey learns birthday. I gave him this book. Could you sign it so Maghreb? in my David Lunch Book has a true picture. Bards in your genome, my happy birthday. I had nothing to do with this book, but I loved him. So if I read that book, will I understand fire walk with me? Yes, no, you stood at the story, that's happening in his head in the what dream logic in general, but you know this yet that

everything I think is so vital of of being the pressure. Being present thing, I think, is what we try to avoid when we're trying to distract ourselves with whatever it is work or drugs or alcohol or sex, or anything that it's just were afraid to be present, because if we feel how we feel in a moment that might be not pleasant, but I think ultimately, when we actually know how to really genuinely be present. It's a wonderful thing. It's a wonderful feeling thing and feeling it's it's a feeling of feeling death. The latter, would you go my favorite other mamma, we adopt Obama. How are you doing tonight, for months now I do sketch Festa Rear No, I was thinking well, the only known affecting talk.

At this, because it was just a pilot that I recorded for podcast, because you know the world needs more of those. Listen it's it's totally fine! You know how about gas, the better people get their specific podcast needs met its golden. Well, this is the thing I was in a feeling of firms in offices and whenever they say, what's your hobby, what now have a hobby I love to eat in front of the tv. That's what I love to do, then. I thought I wanna make that a show so, with Emily Fleming, oh, my god, that's right, yeah eyes was rudder and at midnight we I now she's very good stand up and writer I came up into show eaten from the tv, so we you know talk about what you wear when you from the tv and what

another piece of cloth calling that it's come so low. What are you eat and then what are you watch and the pilot we heads and reciprocity on an he chose. Project runway, which was so great, was, is really good, so we ve that was submitted, will see what happens got Emily is so funny. I met her in New York. She was working at the Jack Spade Store, she was working retail clothing and you know comics just recognise other complex and the second she started talking. I was like what are you doing here? well. You know I'm a comedian like I knew. Then we became friends in and she moved out to allay and hasn't. He should come on at midnight and she came on and destroy the merest time she was on. So we kept having your back and a slot opened up and we offered her up writing position and she that was a very was it that was a deceiving the hard show to get right away in terms of how to how to build it, and she just

right out of the gate. You know her suggestions and jokes were so great she's, just funny shit, I'm so glad you guys yeah became became friends. The early evening together. Was there anything else. You want applaud your promoting any animated things. Well, I'm let's see there too, that it now and announced. So I can't talk about whom one is a sequel Gammell Del Toro show that I did a troll hunter. In fact, when I recorded it, I just heard your interview with him. Oh, and so I have more my famous. Monsters, t shirt with all these mask on it just in case, but I thought he so busy he's not gonna be there well, he was Our answer were figuring out. These sounds for these characters issues. When I wondered to sound like Miss hath, from the Beverly Hills No, that is so brilliant, but and so there's another one. Oh I gotta just tell you that

One thing I found the sets for shape of water were re. Purposed sets from the strain. Isn't that amazing? I greatly they called it a ton of favors for everyone arranged Yanza, some doubt yeah painted entered it. Didn't I read a theory about as I caught the shape masturbating in water, but there's there's a theory that the main TK, there was a fish person gets ok, URI. Why are you those holding with the scars yeah? She was that great wide heard those guys remember the thing you already knew Heller Gills, that's why she could be under what- their Miller had a great joke about that. She's, like she's, I called bullshit on

shape of water when she must be the tab and then use the faucet venture voter. That's all You know I always always to Lydia like she was she I could say things like that that are somewhat she goes. I know a obviously gonna know you're admiral obvious you have way higher in the rags than captain. I did some of the other night. She was like our you, Admiral now show so I got to have my admiral. You know what I think do you guys she was? Our fears are so now that thing you need reciting idiotically, stating the obvious that everybody else already knows. Listen done is I just wanted something else to be myself up over to supplant the other thing that meeting this up I mean there's other factors are not leaving it in believing it s because I deserve,

I have a request: zero public service, yeah, you're, right, Lorraine, my stupid experiment, you guys just slowly back us every day so, but you know always been so delighted and pleased by what a kind and supportive not just comedy venue, orbic human being that you are- and I have appreciated that you refrain about midnight and you you came to see the leopard last special you came to the practice, show it meltdown and you're. So nice this year appeared in a sketch in Latin America, nice foundations, but just now that you are adored and appreciate in he soon you guys, I'm so happy that you I'm so delighted to do it. I love you show so much and your shows us very much. You ever sometimes as a third guy on the path

am I yes, I'm not mad. Ever since we had a wee wee wee living too You know whenever he gets a girlfriend, that's gonna work got a mother, but now that's like he was here so much that I think he just fell off the map after yeah. I like I've, done that before two words like it's like I can't tell you like. I am we're unfinished work this week. It and I'm free to do park as an offence, we're like Ireland. It's just a marathon. It's like ok! I know the finish line is over there. If I can just crawl to its once I'm past it then don't touch me, I'm just gonna fight, so he's just these recharging MR even further tv, you won't see in front of achieving any good shows that you're watching that you want a gardener- nordic nor and horror on Netflix. Is the best and also if I shudder to ya. Thank you for referring me to shudder. Oh, I spent a great resource for my horror oak

yet the way that we have this conversation last time we were pitching each other horror, movies, yeah and, as I read that streaming channel thing, they do so great too. Yeah you're, not like the slash exchange, I know the psychological thrill urge even grin there is a really fun one. I think it was called Veronica. Maybe you think it's a spanish, its spanish horror, but it the demon possession with some others. You also want Youse Rivers, the medical help their new on this possibility, yeah. I haven't seen it yet, but I want to. I was gonna actually see if the The sketch was on the personnel, as I hope it does lead me to see really fast. If now no, I didn't come up, but it still like you know again. Did you have you ever visit ass, an levers Like I, I think I was there for obviously the forty years and before that it was just stem. I haven't,

New York for something I don't remember what it was, but I dont go to New York that often, if I do it's, you know it's a sometimes is just a hassle to get tickets and I always want to see the dress rehearsal biggest me. Those are better to see because you see said is that are cut their eventually and will never be seen again, which is so unfortunate. Oh, I can imagine the treasure. Oh well, that's why I love system has its touch of smiles on. He has rerun theatre, right, right, unappreciated, theatre or something like that, and he does the sketches that didn't make it. That's what I like about TIM Robinsons episode of characters are netflix SK! I haven't seen that it's my favorite one of that that, like that one season today would have had to their schedules, but there clearly all the sketches. He wrote that didn't make it, and while he was riding at us now so they're, just like all Robin Sim Robinson he's he's gonna go stars of detroiters, which is ok with us. Amateur

then one of the funniest shows on television. I gotta check that out. Colors central, yet comedy yea doesn't answer how many central guy when night, creating the late night Luxembourg would we were our job Jabba, the late my watch I was once remember where we were sandwiched in the lower middle of late. Levin. Large live in medium, go right for the little Goin zero. We were not fly and it's hard for me to understand. I'm so we were sitting over there about ourselves in Europe, as our I know I gotta, go. Let I gotta go to another packets and doing the trailers from help I'd CAS with Chile.

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