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really time when the community has met the world to me- grew up. You know watching stuff on laugh in earnest, scene and Peter Fan and then ninety five, I swear to God s automobile hundred fifty times and in all of me I think I saw twice as many times as that which those movies both still totally hold up so come nervous, because I did not ask a lot of black up. Just sit there really here cool but she turned out to be so incredible and put everyone at ease and was just such a comfortable, so to be around. I absolutely cherished it. So Lily is in a team of a movie. That's opens opens the Davis Pike. S comes out so much my second called admission. So if you can go see it and support comedy movies with,

really people in them here is the nervous pod gets upset. I'm gonna hang out with her. Now all its I'm, she doesn't others. I was kind of ebony lily dominant religion is when a hang around your overtime everywhere to first, though, you'll grow into it, I'll bring you food I'll, be your floppy a neck pillow for you. You could just grab me around your neck and stand taken up on my source of red meat, so here we go. There's blood cast over three thirty six of the treaty, but I knew compared in ship the cheese that aware yet, with Lily Tomlin nor entering Minister COM

Cooling welcome, thank you for your lilies the place to see I'm good press. I am to be here. It is a view and absolute pleasure to have you here on the packet. Have we done any progress before as issue first broadcast Nike identify you you have here I mean, what's the difference between podcast and an internet at an interview, an interview displayed on the internet. That is there a difference now probably not really carbon out, It is basically- we its no more long form and is just sort of conversational, and you know it's not. I mean you're doing it.

The press for the movie this coming out Friday right, you handle the five minutes late actual raphia. I agree with you. I never have lighted and and then especially if you get an interview or hers like a little bit stiffened there may I don't know what they're asking you anyway, because they have probably seen anything right. They go. Let's always Howard. I tried it before I use it just be like that it was over in the old days when they started with a really short segments you, just you really don't get say anything in its and the blame. You know very cut sharp. I love you Ferguson are great. Together, though I love Craig, I met you haven't we are due to their credit? If you wish to see the guy that just like he throws the notes away our darn funny, why he's just so quick? You don't have to do anything. You just listen to him and kind of just react to him. Member here either

I saw you want to show what think was last fall? He said Dolly, look very nice today, like that, I don't know, look nice last time and goes. Do I just got what was I wearing and ears like? It was the outfits, you don't remember. I really just goes. I know you don't I lie logic. Is you don't pre interview or anything yet because he doesn't. He doesn't because I'm shows where you do or big big pre interview the car, what someone finally use the cockroach primarily on professional. So the thing you just said: when you go on show that does pre pre under view? I never know you trying to get me to say. I can't remember what I told him when I had the pre interview and then they cut it. They bring it down to some something they reduce it to something that they the host will relate to or pick up on, and I can't figure out the hack, it is how many you must car either Carson, no sure whether with a previous further Carson showing you how

measure was just kind of what is going to talk about it than Johnny wants to be kind of. Use and on his own and a certain way so beer? No resemblance? I was fine I'd rather just talk anyway. I just free associating go but someone really trying to get you to say. So I ain't you, you ve done you ve. Had you erase pumpkins, didn't you? Maybe you told him some story about you know thrown a pumpkin down on your kid There is something you don't know what what they're trying to get you to say. In the end that the bed trick is always someone told me why, heard somewhere that what did you hear from the guy fucking preparing the interview? Exaggerating just sit here that in the world, but it's you know I think, with Craig in particular living here The format forced him to go road, because the idea of doing is bees like a punk rock background. You, like it There's! No, no he's he's very.

The idea of having to do the same thing every day. It's like. I think it was the only way he could deal with it and the result was a great show you I think I can give you. Had to do that? I would have to shut him down a little bit the because he's just flying that that's that doing a show every night and having to be present every nights in a and b retaining and in like six minutes chunks would do. Did you ever wanted to do that kind of talk. Show. I dont think I never would have been to good. Let's say let us you, like you do your dinosaur used to have a talk. Show here offer long time it was pretty successful back, but that would be in the seventies or something, and with these get everybody loaded, I mean there would be wider use of wine. Coffee cup of coffee gets. There sit near its all wine. I was on once with a robber Blake. I did I with a bunch of them, but you and after

I got an old tape where you just want me to shut up you're think because they started framing me out of the shot, because I wouldn't stop talking really really gonna. We hammers norms, loaded yeah from Anna and you'll, hear everything. Did they say David endeavoured resign and he started talking about doing some something with thy Marlon, Brando or someone and how and they would just make each other crack upper. Something indeed say on we'd, be we just break up we'd break up and you can feel that energy coming I'm on the screen, and it's me and you know, there's in you're saying you I'm saying it s a please don't say anything please! I do you hear me pipe in more. Sonny. Bono, caravan- he has just. I couldn't stop it you get the comic genes that can't you can't you can't stop that's what I don't does even coming jeez. I think that was just like you know, an impulsive compulsive eighty years that whole I mean I mean I remember I was I've. I've lived in the seventies and I remember there was there basically was

talk circuit like a really intense talk, show circuit and I remember seeing people going no I've seen them do anything else, other than just appear on all the talk shows by some of them were poppea, they were, is regulars like regulars on a talk show and they would appear or they would appear frequently on the same. Show I'm just like Grognon or are you know, smoky the band? but over Reynolds Reynolds was thy Carson, a lot don, Diego come out made at each other in the crash with pies It was and before that I can't par in places they were all the people that head like a persona, you know, said: Lightwood caught wily, cocksure her mind, jingled or Dodi, Goodman or or renew Taylor and they ought when they sat down. They had a certain way of talking and everybody thought it was really funny and they lack an the average branch and she would have fractured french or English. No, like oh, I love the applause. I love the applause and course audiences just scream

laughing and loving hidden. I you can read and Migrant Cohen people who had like a kind of personal stick that they did like killing, Digital one character than we would have known as eight different people would say to me when I grow up to be on a shelf, they take care needs to be Ok, I did all these characters. It. People are gonna, get confused, they're, not gonna, know who you are and has the two major so normal. Do you do like because you'd seen our thanks, you seem too You see, we have no problem just being conversational, but you also drifting characters. If you want- and I feel like some people, you pick one of the other their characters because they can't be themselves, but you did you never y know I never felt they had I we spoke. The characters were just ass, it was we're varied. I wanted that variety. You know just to do one plenteous

but our hilariously funny in non fans of many people, but I was always attracted to character, because I guess I grew up with so many and they they just made. They were funny or sadder. Hilarious are tragic or mean good, and I do I was really kind of falling. Love with that whole range of humanity and knowing that we weren't so different, we looked or sounded differently, but we weren't, really and do you because you know I ve done a ton of characters that you ve really just done one time. For a show like firm surfer, intelligent life cycle intelligent, but then other characters People know that you did. You know that you be unaware that recur like Edith, an earnest Siena, these characters. So do you like? Do you like disposable care?

there's. Or do you really like going back in doing now? I like I, can find something relevant for them to say or be than I yeah. No, I live. There are like a low its I've said this before, but it's like, MRS Duggar, you know with the nineteen kids rush hour. You don't really have a favorite you. It would be correct to say that I like the member states, but I cannot stand them. For nineteen and counting ever. I am counting them up to twenty now, but we want to use you started doing stand upright in that why you know it was always characterised, but I would get up and stand there and do it and force people to pay attention to the authorities in the Van Jane, I never eat, I'm going. It was just away its. I guess, my family, my mother's dead or southern. We lit, but I grew up in. Didn't inner city Detroit and every summer I gotta rural Kentucky and I lived in a predominant black neighbourhood, I just had so many different people, old apartment house filled with old professionals

couldn't move as they had aren't fixed incomes and my mother died. A blue collar southerners, coming up to the after the city to work, and it's just its rich. It's really juicy and where did you start performing? Did you go to New York and Washington? I put on shows all the time. I am not because my I had any show business in my family are we had. We did. I never went to the theater, but I took ballet and tap at the Department of Parks and recreation, which was a big programme across right across directly across the street, from my apartment house that kept kids off the street it's you know with what programmes- and I felt like a word. More autonomy I loved it more than I can I've loved it more than God and I put on shows and I try to sell. Kids and I try to get other kids to be in the show and but it never occurred to me to do that that that you could do that for

thing and then when was that moment, while I was I went, I restarted college, so I was an eye I hate it when I say this, it sounds prick in my mouth. It sounds pretentious because I went away, a pre mad and I never could have been doktor. Never ever ever ever ever. I couldn't I thought if I opened a textbook, I would get like in a textbook narcolepsy in my hip fall to the page, a knife I wake up the next morning. Six! Clark and I hadn't study- I haven't done anything so, but I was in college college show, and I made a big hit just off the cuff, you know and all that during drama. They were still come out and say, or do you know what kind of contrition. You have and stuff like that, and I thought no it was fun you know like playing so then I Candy Roy really take it. I thought I would try to make try to make it a make a living doing it.

At what at what time did you start going up on stage after that was some well I'm going to call me house in Detroit. I started working at a coffee house in Detroit this back narrowly sixty. So you know in those if they had you know they have theatre, Maybe doing a plane of some of the kids are doing a play and we did after theater and sketches and focusing and poetry readings and then after hour- Have jazz and what was all service all the time, coffee house? Oh wow was great, that's it one end and culturally. What an amazing time to be that's like right, especially in the sixties, were, people are starting to sort of break out of that post. War era, everything's all buttoned up and uptight ennobling, like things seem to be more when the comedy ah you know the in earlier would be in it. We saw mostly men Very few women did comedy they had a show like they were movie actress. It was night Gracie, Eleanor Joan David.

For someone like that, or than Course Lucy was out in the fifties but sure handful of women during comedy and very few did stand up and each Carol was one of the very first stand. Ups, she would be Solomon back and like the late for like forty, nine or fifty to watch her with my mother and she was very subversive inner in a way that is subversive, could be, I guess, and nineteen fifty one or something she all. She was very attractive, enjoys wore. A cocktail. Dress is very breezy and she tell husband, jokes, that's in that's kind of messed up cause that still, but They'll makes it about men in a weird way: yeah. Well, I guess yeah, but she still, I knew my mother, my mother would lie. I was just a little kid and I would die, but mother enjoyed it so much and should also talk about our kids. You know she's always like as a little subtext, she'd say my daughter rotten kid. That's these things,

I believe this mother would not do, of course. So when you started doing these people, let's pieces and early sixties. What was the nature of your material? I characters I went out, but I'm too I would talk to, but I would do a lot of characters I made up in those in that time they still play. I mean monologues cause, they were just timeless. To do a woman at a funeral should use the deceased as ventriloquist dummy to cheer up the widow I was one, my favorites at that time, but I also did things like the rubber freak I was a woman addicted to eating rubber objects, and it was really never a confession like a confessional or is it we live in my own mind, the purpose of it was the hypocrisy of. What's it what's unacceptable addiction or an acceptable US substance, and what is not that's really, but do

in ten, because especially no other piece it I remember from the ice. Think about it, a lot of the peace from search for intelligent signs of intelligent life. What's the the two press to get in the car. Oh yeah, like our being interviewed again like that that whole thing, but there's really like there's really like a nice social commentary underneath there other than just being a character characterising. Are you because you want to do you want to fill their lives so and their lot? you're more than you know, if you're being if you're gonna essence it in in a certain three or four or five minutes or whatever you ve got to tell you ve got to tell something really the belly of it some part of it to make the character live and not just be thrown out. Jokes, so is that do you feel like that's one of the cornerstones of comedies to have it to have a b humanizing in some way humanizing. Yet you said it

rather than by the actual would be meaningful to me as I somehow so. The audience will identify what they don't they don't look at them is something separate interests. They you quit. You create their life in some way so even someone like earnestness, broadened, Andrew Earnestness, filled with ponds and things. In fact, when I first saw earnestly on the screen and when I went to laugh and I was on the five o clock feed, I was in New York and on a Monday night, when laugh and used to air and idle I had never seen her in esteem visually and because I take her, six weeks before we went on the air, I had brought her to the show, but I'd never dressed her. I dressed her at half when the costume room addressed her in I knew what her hair looked like. I had a wig built and everything, but so when I saw that all know: she's gonna be too broad and now and then I kept

she and I don't know, there's something so she something true about or something real about her and inner just connect, so she's funny as a as a person, and then she has such a definite point of view. And a lot of it is self involvement. But she was but to do a lot of political stuff in the course of it, because this, as minion of my bell. She could talk to body in the world. Take their conversations threatened. Well, yeah, and also because because she was sort of physically was very much a caricature. I feeling- most like watching a cartoon in the sense that you can swordlets or like family guy like why? I think you know set Mcfly, and as a person as just like a rich white guy, might not be able to say some stuff, but a cartoon baby can say stuff all yeah for sure. So as a character, it just seems a totally free you up to be able to say things that you as ITALY, Tomlin people be like. What's her probably know, but like you can

this commentary through these character. You know, that's that's another asset to taking that form, but I think that sort of the fun part of but you're right, you that's what I thought. When I looked at first, I thought she looked cartoonish cushy, so strong, so vision, graphically strong. Her juries, even strong in the black joy, with white dots on it, and but she turned out to be per perfect good, well yeah and then and then just the idea that you can see a character for four minutes and then go Philip. I need to know every like you understand a lot about the character, that's not right on the page, but then there, but you want to understand even more like what would you on a do like a really long form: peace with a character you just like panic, has Mervyn Leroy was still alive in hee, hee, hee, George Slaughter Sunburn, one of the producers at laughin, take me out to his house.

Because he wanted to do a Walter Miti with Ernest Jane, but I was so adamantly against boarding any character. You know I didn't I I didn't to be known as certain exclusively. I wonder honesty to just be one of the character I in and it would be just like I thought it would be. I didn't want to do it now. In retrospect, I think. I wonder if it would have been great in Mervyn Le Roy Eminent had been saunter. I had a chance. Wants to work with them. It is named. You know they wondered Yoda. Manchurian and no regular old one and the original one I mean, and the black and white was Frank Sinatra and I didn't hear you want me to do a crypt keeper with him, but I had this, somebody on camera. You know viciously, I'm a lot. I and I could. Do it. I dont mind them, saying I

damn them in their lying. There did credit, but I couldn't help it myself. My arm coming down in stabbing somebody in blood scrutiny out or whatever they wouldn't let you like frame off your head, just go and just with words go. I can't believe how much I'm stabbing this guy, I'm really staffing this guy. I was sick with myself that I you know I passed up the chance to work with him too, passes in, but I mean passes a mere, but still here- and I didn't do it- I think, but at the time, if you weren't in the head space of do it. Then it's probably better that you didn't do it because you know you would know. Oh no, I wouldn't have done a good job. For now we ve been there. Behind your man Jonah their thereunder they're, usually on the park ass? They were waiting patiently outside. I think they were afraid to come in it in one interrupt door yet come come up, can pull them accidentally, three cheers for you. Yes, use. You said you can you consider you said the lady days in her chair, I studied you learned anything from Russia

this Jonah, and this is a high. No, are you I'm really? We wouldn't want interfere because your midst Orient relentlessly. I cannot interrupt her. But I do wonder at myself: I don't want you guys. I've ever journey to not come in and just like, you stood outside the whole time where we try, we didn't want. We didn't want to leave when you want to be like our leaving, though these are just details, I mean anyway, I'm so one of the things that sort of interesting point is that a maid maybe run right this, but being sort of a product of the sixties, many wise you're. Seeing a lot of comedy. That's that's more social, this more about! What's going on in the world, I feel like what I see. Out of a comedy now and I'm guilty of a two is its very selfish. It's like me me me me. This is all about me. Me me me in the sixties. Comedies seems to be about us. Is a p

This is the shit that's going. There must have been when I hear I got that from, but I thought I thought it. Maybe you did not likely coup d do it. I don't think we retain what talk shows before I. Don't they I think attention spans. Well, maybe there getting better now, but I think that sort of you no roads, tat. You know we have five minutes to talk. It's unfair! that that's what talk shows in becoming because in a move, If in Diana Shore Dick Cavern did you do the Cavaco? Yes, how was the house dig or that was well? I had a big episode. I'm one of the cabbage shows, because I was some. I was that promoting my Second our mind: my first album had one on any are Grammy. You get grew he's gonna Grammy and it was the first comedy album whose, by a woman had wandered in my manager at that time, Irene pen

my manager and she had so she got an image to and and so I come on this show- and this is sit this one thousand nine hundred and seventy two I was just going to play Carnegie Hall. I think promoting that to you promoted everything in the day. No and Dick says to me I want bring up the album united size? I want to give a nod to Irene so what this decision long remembered everything, because in the green room is, is debate, Jordan, the poet and I his english and arms, nearly a boon rub gained any, doesn't know who, from ETA many of these people and had ever. It was on with me tat same night, but we we went to the same college in Detroit, I didn't know in there, but he was but I was out and then he was going to be so While, while I was on Dick started this whole feminists thing say

when I said about the comedy album he said well, why not? Women are getting funnier every day, there's people, women and the audience they face our hissing it out in the next room. Where does happen but bunch of stuff, and then Chad came out and Chad I was really popular and medical center. He was the tv sex sexy like he was it s actually set is sexy guy yeah and very very popular had a huge tv q, imagine so is he's talking. He says to to dick something about Dick says you ever. And she of horses are some nieces. Oh, I have horses and have this in this is, but my wife is the most about animal. I are, then, only by this time there's been some all week. I've been doing publicity at, and I mean I had gotten one thing. Another one show after another, like alike on

MIKE Douglas one morning they pressed ahead of Scott yard is on this. That and- and I said, have there there any women inspectors this goes. We know this is a long time ago. Forty years, your more, I said in his never will be. As far as I got something- and I said I said world, could we lead the up? Possibility open, so things like TAT had been happening so when chances are most valuable animal I own I Why I just got up. It was totally visceral. I just said I gotta go in the end. I walked off backstage. You know- and I suddenly come on back state the third area they study. Robbing me in saying: don't you you can't do that to Chad, go back out there. Don't you and your panties the chair Sweden, dear, let him so embarrassed that and his moustache. So whenever happened, I don't remember the olive it yet now, but you the setting thing zebra. They thought it was a compliment.

You know the best part is leaving the best part Aussee. So then he brings up pageant magazine where he had written a poem. Two shall be his wife and showbiz probably show if your hearing this you know that I was always a terribly fond of you and- and this was just a thing of circumstance, but anyway he's Chair, Chad reads a poem from pageant magazine that he had written about Shelby and here's debates are sitting in the green, and my manager Irene is also very english and very offended at everything and audiences in her breast. I'm not their cause. I've gone to my dressing room and autumn says is disgusting people. Jobs happened. She says I ve never been in such rude. Tropical storms out would the Dixie anything after the show was mortified now, oh god, no, they just think you're nutcase you

really IRAN is back and people hissed and audiences arrive. Kids. It pass me on the street. They loved that you are young people like it when you miss behave and but some kids are saving my mom says she's. Never gonna watch you again because what you did to Chad is, as you know, how it feels to God. Let me he's gone now, he was dead and you are right that I've nay brought it up to others years later. He just died a year in the past year or so, but no didn't have any fun with it at all. They took it pretty seriously what I almost you know. I wonder what kind of irritating or use and then I came out of you asked me. Did I do care about your story, but I must wonder you note was their burden on you in the sense that like oh she's, the feminist comedian. So, like everyone, because almost seems like an arrow Condescension like this very thing, going on up was that about

at a certain point like looking exactly right. It's perfect, even thirty I was done. River night with authority and totally ease up their talk principle. I had a piece of Georgiana had a plastic and it was like a fly flexi square up to two and had liquid in it can kind of amber liquid. In it already said she grabbed What is that dog urine specimens and then she gets up later and choose energy Mary had children and everything I got, but she was a big Vegas comic, So you know she wasn't homemaker MAC, MAC and cheese, all the time the answer she started she gives up and she starts work and actually get a real pontificating at some pleasant voice. She says I wish I had a clip. This time at home so mad. I don't have that video, because I have a lot of it and she goes down front. She says

Women were just stay home like this supposed everybody about this juvenile delinquency, investment that is done there. You know we should in future and so on, that women should just stay home, and forgive me lonely what I'm saying utterance around it. Does it to me? Oh it's all so damn funny that you just want to scream, but it's I mean it Do you remember that I was very young, but I do remember that period of like women's labour, jokes and they guys get. You know they try to get the most. You know uncombed kind of person on that they could write not really it wouldn't let them anchor the news. Let's say that right right right, so I know is always that way. Was the body, the joke and for a long time but even so with some of the movie like ninety five, which but I've seen probably two hundred times Mary,

a deadly Coleman was the perfect and I've got damned Jane. My partner, Jane, I got Debbie cast Daphne cast in that role, is real them some real. Where did you find him why we seem on firmware at night? Oh yeah a sexy scoundrel like there's something sexy about DAB need buddy. He's just sleazy, you know it, but he sees you, but you just sort of love him well it, but particularly, in that movie like that, was that that really was a state that movie was a statement here, Jane Fonda set out to do that. Deliver Well, you know I mean started meeting what they, in fact, they form the ninety five organization after that junior to advance women's rights and marked in the workplace and so on and did you did? Were you super involved with the writing in the creation O K. Collins Higgins wrote that screenplay and

had done now? You I'd known Collen from Harold and Maud from years before, of which I was a huge ban and die, and Course Collen died. Too long after the after the movie with Spanish, and we tried for twenty years to do a sequel with dial. And Jane and me, and course now we're all too old to do it do a you. Then we have to be the mothers of What no one happier lay there seem crazy right now, so just go ahead and do it anyway. So I just don't. I No, I don't want them to try to make the cycles without you guys and I'm glad that no one, I'm glad that someone, gone crazy now been like. We need to make all of me. The sequel like this. Just one of those you're gonna do out we'll call it tend to six no way of that stuff that she just was about to say so there are going to do all. I know somebody. Asia has no remake, they ve been planning. For a long time hands I now I can't do that. It was the perfect. The way than Steve was so good. It was just so much fun both of you in and you know you look at these types of

pharmacists and I complain about this in the pot castle out. Is that why you know why doesn't a white, why is there not an Oscar for it like that performance? Those performances are, you did when the New York Film critic Steve did so that was good. All right? That's what I am hearing only they don't I'll, be out your. I agree. I feel like it so much harder to make people laugh fur. And a half than it is to make them cry, because everyone can. You know like you to tell us that sort of, like all, has a bummer but about but to embody like this split in half the quality, I mean I love that movie to, and you know that hold the bat hold back and bull bit was ad Lib really between Stephen. Libertine Richard Liberty me completely add completely people still say that aid to the desperate people really take away they. They are really carryin about back in both Beggin books love there. They really did. Was it a fun movie or going right? I love Steve. I really I have. I feel you know this is how

Here's not was eighty seven or something eighty five. Eighty five. I think it was eighty some like that before fiber Mumia. So it was a long time ago that and Steve was the Lieutenant was moving still married, the area and the first day we had reading I said to Steve and I just felt a very deep affinity with Steve and always have. I don't know why, but I do and I feel kind of maternal toward Sometimes you know right here seemed lonely to me: here he the aims and either he's he's he's not a unity and said he's. Not a person is a lot of times. You work with people in their on all the time and they can't stop. If there's a piano, they have to sit down per se. They just your on you know and trying to keep people in jane. I guess it seems very quiet, very rather conservative, behavior always smart is hell, but so anyway,

We finished what we had lunch together: everybody Carl and everybody to get to know each other, and I could do since something between them, and I said you see, we walked down the street and, I said: are you gonna start dating Victoria? No known my maker? I make a point of never dating my leading lady sir, something like that while marries he hasn't Mary is a baby. Is gonna, be I know that you have the baby, she pregnant jobs, they had a attaboy, well Steve here, I mean I was such a comedy nerd when I was growing up so between like your car the items in your characters and Steve and Richard prior and just so, you worked on the richer Jenny Workin when I weren't were richer resign. My first to specials, because I do I was mad for Richard, of course, because he did characterising just two? He wasn't how he did it and I would see him at the Improv he'd, already gotten kind of famous. So when I got my

for a special on CBS, I went to Richard to try to get him. A guest on but kind of, didn't really in and much laugh in that much our home what he was doing in those years and so I'm sorry I had. I thought I did. But a set up at the ice house to show that I will. You know that he was not a square girl he said guys has meant. I wouldn't do you made me, go to a porno movies with them. You heard what and I get ok. I've got, but I'm paying my own way. Dutch. We do Dunham order. We went down to the neighbourhood and, of course, from laugh in a lot of people. Blot black folks knew me and liked me, so he sighed You know who I was, and that was good men, my favorite too, so I passed all the fire while answer and we became fairly free for a while. I'm here friendly. I also did his old priors place a played Trudy the bag lady once and do like television.

Do you like film, or do you just like all them like every medium as long as you can kind of do the character that the early I like, I liked to be able to do a little of everything. That's fine, there's son! I was that Richards House today he is very good call them to tell him. We are working on a bit further special. I was going to do next and he and bury horny Let me just seen a cut of lady sings, the blues and how good Richard was, and I don't have you the first time I ever saw Richard resigned. At solving doing the prince and princess and the kids having to play at school at that. Is that I'm why this albums? It must be? It was autos on a compilation of ethical Butch whistling way. You know, I saw him and I can, who is this guy, he so vote but he so wonderful and he was doing you just a very in the middle of the road kind of peace on material I mean that could play to a Sullivan audience, but it was so brings gives me goosebumps, and I even mention it and so

I sought when buried, Gordy call them that night, oh no, very Gordy or anything. I've sounds like I'm really in the very called him to tell him and he was on the you know he was having a hard time than had been blackball from Vegas or whatever. You know how he's here he walked off, or so I don't know all the history, but and very tall and how Grady was in that movie and you could see which of you just like that same kid doing the prince and princess like he was so. He was just like overcome. You know with sort of joy sweetness, while they are really was lovely, do you feel like there were. Did. You feel a kinship and the sense, and I'm sorry if this is a really dumb middle, the road question, but was a sort of kinship of you as a woman and comedy and Richard as a black man in comedy. In that time, like breaking out, traditional boxes, the entertainment industry, there might have been. You know I mean I think the characters was would be something that we did it we

it a cover, a rolling stone cover what year was we. You know we did it. It was a combo. You know he we were on the issue and we were on the cover together, and then then the hope that hope right it was David die, my friend David. What's his name his. You know where we as, if I said his name, but he did stories who'd strand richer than the next week. It was a story on me, was it weekly or monthly? Rolling stone was weekly, so I have a big rolling stone cover with Richard and mean he's doing comedy like satanic and I'm a mere comedy mascot I'm doing trip they really are generally happy type of any person or images. The idea of like you know when you think of become its being torn. Like others so in our Eugene a pretty easygoing have person. I think so. Pocket heavy tell you better than I thought.

I'm kind of moody and temperamental true, but not because I've had a tragic lie. Just because I mean and have a streak of you know Moroccan. Moroseness in says. I know we're all gonna die and I look at you. Don't even think about it when Steve used to come out and say you're also upbeat for a crowd. That's then gonna be death. Every submitted put their own. Did you do? Did you why to let alive comedy newcomers you like watching comedy, is well yeah sure I don't got it jobs are anything like I should you know, but I don't You can go down so many great, so many great p I mean, there's people I really think you're really good, I mean, but there either usually character that I'm at first attracted to

I guess I may see somebody, I think why didn't I do that culture type? I mean I Catherine, oh here I loved her winters on ESA now on this sensitive and I love wander wandered justice straight sand at once. He likes but she's very funny. Alain Boozer was brilliant and lay never got the real credit cheap. I think deserve till she was right in the middle of the comedy of the eighties when there were so comedians on every channel that there are so many great comics that I feel like they got overlooked recovery. In his brain, rare rug, Overton. Definitely so many people that yeah they. I feel I feel guilty that I came along that decade before them in that field was so bear, especially where women are concerned, You know that I I I I tat. It wasn't that hard to stand out or to be seen, because there were just

a few. So few of us me well, I guess that's one way to look at it, but I think the other way it to look at it is that if because there are so few spots, I guess that you are vying for that you had to be really good to stick out. I mean I feel, like that's, like now. Anyone can do everything, and so it's there's so much noise that it's about. Rising above that noise, instead of just vying for those two hands every by every radio show is got. You know things they're, gonna put you know like Russia, every new show they got to have some comedy, even to the extent that you know that the mainstream tv ones. Way clips from the tonight Sherwin from right. You know from everybody Leno in Conan and whoever whoever they are play little political bits. It's like it too rampant. You know that we are completely any data now need you are you? Are you were welcomed by the amount of media media. Definitely I'm overwhelmed by media knowledge

I was you know some days. I was really feel it. Our brains are not evolve to process and that much stuff at all and we need a chip. We need something to help us did you to feel like people in general, because now than others you take take into account the disinformation and Eliza shorter, misperceptions and misconceptions, and Well, I mean you're, just like we own jerky beef, Jerky Well, that's that's overwhelming. It may lead to the extent where you have to pick a news source that Hungary with your beliefs because they have their own points? they're, not just delivering the news everything's so much, it goes through a filter. So how do you, even if anyone who want to believe do you feel like when you were doing common in the Sixtys and Seventys was was there is much pressure and anxiety and stress as there is now or We like everyone, I know society you mean yeah or what was but because we were

less inundated by mean? I was wondering how I think we can get a handle on a little easier. I think you know that their first about we had three television sets just to begin with that are cut things back quite a barrier and the intern. Everything that we have now is just the air with the internet, and it's just that it's just a barrage of stuff that path and before you can even see it, it's gone a night and I dont think things well, let's see the Vietnam WAR was on didn't into seventy three and we had Nixon. We have certain, but we're Dixon useful to Carmody but not like today and the end you're right. You don't even where you come down on which side of what and how much shelf life does it even have it has like twenty four, hours. Maybe yeah yeah, and people are used to disposable like even the idea. Smith mean I listen to combat albums hundreds of times when I was growing up and I feel like now, people just

Business, something was going out with next, he had lived word like low, sources like these mental locus with into completely satiable am I say that I think that's true. I think the demand to to on top of every little thing, aging, I've. I rely on Paula seems like Paul. He seems No. Twenty times more than I know, he's forever in oath, seeing someone on Facebook internet, and I think I'm there all the time nor can it he sees things you say to me: did you see what network so and so sad- and like the other night, we went to Bill MAR show just I've, I never been to lie to see it and, and Rachel Matter was on and she added line and eight do. But it's gone like I thought it was an eye, tat, bullfight, Donna, Dateline Dam and the line which use during that port meant that coming out insane cosy his he knows his son is gay. Now he's free, rights or same rise, marriage or whatever, and she said I She would one day I wish of a book

can one morning and found a had. His son was poor yeah. That's grid agenda If an Islander Nancy ARM, nobody even mention, set the ever mentioned at the next day. I said to that somewhere on the choice of one or two spotlight like the best line of the night or something you have a little. Category on the internet. Do you have Are you on in writing. De I have that, but I dont really do much. That's another job, it's another damn right. I do assure ABC sir. I tweet I tweeted one Where you can't even keep up with it, my god and all the while I wound doing, was inviting people. Concerts. Well, it's funny, you don't like it. You know. You say that that that line gets lost, but you know it's it's exactly how twitter works is just this really is a stream. I couldn't even kept get back to the person there be eight. You know what I'm doing those if it doesn't, then you just ball up in the news.

Nearly River this is morally overwhelmed, do you do you wanna? Do I've performing again. I do it all the time I just place Yeah couple weeks ago I don't know I haven't I this year. I haven't done as many dates as I normally do, because I was doing Reba show on young see but I, u I use you. We try to do forty. Fifty dates a year like God, will where it would be wiser place. People can go. To find out about it. My website, I guess they posted, although you Lily Tom and I come here- ok, good good. I now I want to see life. I hope you do more shows us here. So I can come both new life. Are you when you, when you who knows he's

I start to say when I look at nice or see I'm a nice girl. I saw a clip of firm of you talking too rosy and I like it just how sort of view very just matter of fact about. So you just talk about very openly and with her you know she was asking a lot of questions that I feel like a lot of people could be like EL I dont neural again. This is how you know a good. My mom was isn't it you know growing up in being gay. Was this in my mind when I met Jane the end? It was this very kind of comfortable yeah. Have you always been that comfortable? Well, the the? a lot of progress has been made in this area and back in this Indeed, I mean this is not it lose either but and I

we're here. My modern scream, album in the studio with Jane in seventy five and time called called at my publicist, called and said that time would give me the cover. If I'd come out- and I said. And I thought that was I you know it's not because you were to do it because of my work right, but I was so. I was kind of first I've been is very dicey and said: Indeed, if I it, if I had come out in a big way, I mean I I felt I was out, but never. I never had a press conference. I never call people. It said I, bigger now I remember seeing cartoon I can the new Yorker something we're some guys come. He says I have to announce it. I'm not gay that's quite a few years ago there was a spin on that time. So we did the album, because the end I declined to do it. Finally, I thought of it I tortured over, because I thought well politically. It would be really great to do that, but, of course it would put the obedient

my career, probably for ten fifteen years. Oh no, I'm I'm! I'm sorry! I didn't do it. I didn't accepted now, so I felt a little bit bought. You know like well, I will give you the cover a few, We are tell us about your personal life bright and especially that it had nothing to do with it. Wasn't about your work? No, that's what I'm saying it later. If you like, is set September of seventy five- some I forget which issue, but they used a matter which the servicemen the? U S army would be within, so they just need gay person may have thought picked out, never relating precisely like an aim, and that is what I have just a question mark over when we did our. So we bid on that album, which you could play some d ever play. You play bits, don't you we can never, so you want to play it now accept, or so we did the thing you know we did a whole thing about baptism? I just done Nashville. Then it was the first movie in and an album is all about

interviewed for a fan magazine like modern screen. Only we called it motor scream Interviewer says you know. Lily workers have liked to see yourself upon the big screen, making love to a man, and I and what we did is we just flip dollar Gormans interviews from boys in the band, but mostly over, he says you know, he's she was so worried about his career, as I'm sure it didn't do a many good ultimately, but to be playing. Gay character in this brigade dominated film and back in the early seventies and he said well. I've seen these men all my life. I know how they walked right. I've seen these women all my work. I know how to talk to those people on people say. I went too far. Some settings far enough. And on and on, and then they pick a kick out it is you know you don't have to be. Into play, one that's in, but nobody nobody, nobody even picked up on it. Nobody side is that this item

my big answer to Time magazine right put this on my album and they'll see that this on my own terms and ass. Then came a button in seventy seven we'd. We did get the cover of time for our first Broadway show, but now I didn't do it is. That is the sort of Weird I mean when you, when you're comedy, has a certain kind of a thing that you're trying to say or message say, and then some people miss that but focus on something else That wasn't a thing that was it I mean. That's been the story of my life. It's there's something about me that people just Like my opposition, I was an urban traffic. Ervic cups and show in Chicago few years beg urban dead. Now this was in the city. These and I was on with there was a woman. Doctor would written this very anti female book, calling women, parasites and all kinds of such I thought it was a sector.

And I said this is the same right. No, it wasn't you know, so I start talking from a feminist perspective, kind of arguing with her and my aunt. I had an aunt who live there and she call me the next morning. She why you should gave that women's labour good going pearl. I was I was speaking for women, where I must have got mixed up. That's upon so like when I hitch I hitchhiked caught Detroit to Chicago. Forget it in December. And a pair of ballet shoes when I was in high school. In fact, the girl one of the girls I hitchhiked with his later became Henry Ford a third wife and widow out, but they were music students, and I was in power nursing at that time in high school and they all got expelled, but we live, went to such a big high school with so many curriculum. The teachers didn't even know who I was so I was I never I so up. I probably should be.

I guess I should have been dead in a gutter someplace. Somehow I always eluded the tyranny of physical harm, and you sort of feel like, maybe that there was a parallel with that with your career. To do you think well, I was saying nobody ever. Nothing came of nothing. Much ever came of anything I think p even in the early days, many a journalist, Jane, and I would be together all the time and no one ever about us, even though we were with reference to each other all the time, and I think it's because in those days and they didn't write about you personally and and if they do, on occasion it was they wouldn't if they had any kind of regard for you, they thought they were protecting. You did you ever feel. Do feel responsibility. You know, because you know, like you said,

How does the possibility of maybe you should be on time magazine? Maybe you should be only I did I did. I was torn about that yes, but did you it wasn't? I apparently I wasn't courageous enough. I don't know that the greatest thing I think it was. I think it was that the proof summer side of me understand that like why can't it be about the work. Why does it have to be about? When is it my personal life. While that doesn't have anything to do. You know that to me seems like a it's not like it's. Like your you know. Your comedy was all about that and that that was the message you were being in the then it sort of makes sense, but it it just sounds like they were just trying to sell magazines with a weekend. I think they had a cart down. I d about what was going on in the culture at that time and where what do you know wanted to deal with it. They return to think of ways to approach it. I, what I read

how you guys met was that she, you saw like an especial that she had done, and then you wanted turd a right for Edith. What was this? What was the special that she did she written a thing? I was far CBS for after school. Programme, the first thing she'd ever written for she wants to be a songwriter initially and she'd written of intercourse. Always Jane has ever done anything conventionally, so she had written this law almost like an american pie saw and went on for ten minutes or something, and at that time nobody. It was nineteen sixty nine when she wrote it, I didn't see it. Seventy one percent, were they it was so well received you wanna Peabody forward and they played it every year for about twenty five years on CBS at holiday, and it was about a kid in Harlem who be friends, a straight cat and all that stuff. So

and she just got a lot of attention for it. So then I heard about it. We had a lot of mutual friends, but eventually I saw it was called J T and there was a book. Gordon parks did the photographs, and so when I saw it was I want. I was working. Edith, and I wanted Edith to be more than she was on laugh in Andorra, and I just stop. It was so it was satirical, it was tender and it was funny it was edgy. It was a poet It was everything you know and and an end languages almost like aphorisms, and yet it seemed that perfect, natural? Neither oh this is so great I've just, and this should be so great for Edith, and I tried to get to come and produce the album with me. You know- and this is just how she isn't she hasn't she.

In all these years. She finally down I'm down here like a twelve hour wire before the recording trucks. Gonna come into the ice house and she sends me whole bunch of paper. You came in her life is noted over here and is crossed out errors, man I and I prevailed upon her. She came to allay and we produce the album together now, while What do you think she, and I took a big leap artistically because of her, so she gave you the perspective that you she's, just a very good writer and empathetic. I mean she's toad, we did share that that same empathy, we shared for the four every for life. We share that empathy for all these different she's from the south. She from Tennessee and my fans so from Kentucky. So we had that in common anyway, and gone to New York when she's about seventeen has more sound tennis, he wasn't any place where she would be likely to stay here.

In fact dollar used to say all we still give voters more standing at our teeth fixed. Ah then, so what do you feel like you? do you feel, like you learned about about credit? Crafting characters are comedy like what it. What do you think just get a good idea. You don't you know, are you start working on something and it starts to live or like earnest? even earnestly. I I started out. I didn't expect to be on tv. I thought I would just be around I'm doing stager and I go to the to the improper whatever you work on a debt, and I just thought she'd be. I could New York operator in the EU in the early sixties, everybody hated the phone company in New York because the phone service was terrible phones were the system was breaking down and I learned later from the union could the community Sean workers union that at that time you was letting the inner city just collapses.

They are putting other money into our into data. Basing and corporate hobby. Just read really ramping up and said we weren't end and also we knew that eighteen, two, we know assisted the government and wiretapping and lots of stuff, so it was really right. Fourth, satire and I started doing you're like you know like a real, tough Brock's operator, and but as I did it, it was so it was just so organic. I can only say that is all that I can explain that character was so struck such a nerve because his I talk, I got my face, everything have people like so sexual. Why does she was?

I didn't know our sticky my hand in my blouse. My body was artwork screwed up and made my face. Tightening my face. My face being tat made me snores jester. I mean I can point to that and I thought if I could come up with ten more like that, that would be fantastic, but she was really organically born that way and do your characters do they develop with a relationship with the audience? Are you testing? tough out, or do you just have a very solid idea? Why? Well, I'm also persistent. You know especially like come when I in the last ten years or more. I haven't done as much of that kind of face, have a storefront theater or I would leave for it to not go to bookstores. We leave it and just say, really tiny print lily. Reading new material, no props, no costumes

actors. No refunds have to call a number and a fan quiz too, the address of the storefront, trees over and now he heliotrope Oh right over their Noora, I used to live in those fields. Storefront there a kill each other mirrors, Yeah yeah I got Normandy and now rose come together here and there is still a couple theatre friends over their foes him without every Shriver theories to be near there wasn't or some theatre. There's like there's now, there's like a moth and fake there's, like I think, three left and that strip, maybe they use in my old EU high. A whole bunch of lights and had a sound boost up in a cuz? It's just a little narrow storefront, the only I only had twenty five chairs in it, that's really smart. Actually, because you can't, because once you get really famous yeah, you can't work. Any people start writing they're like? Why? Don't you do the bit that I saw on tv? Do like the? U become sort of a puppet, I would imagine Yasser happens do eat it do they won t, but I

Never to give a shit. Do you know, I'm gonna, give you a new thing. That's gonna, be earnestly. But it's a new thing. I don't have time for new thags I just need. Should I recognise I worked on the search in that storefront and people we. I was I'm this to you saved you or do you know what you're going to do so strongly or when I go by the if the item, if the words are so well, crafted or the idea is rich. Then I am bound to it, no matter how much it fails right, you know cause. I know I know it's there. I just can't find it the carriage. I can't find a physical character, the voice and the body. And people would say, wanted, should drop dead. Then, who knows what what the hell are you doing in I've? Just tell em, being o d go screw basis,

I just knew what was in. It was good. I knew it would be good if I ever could crack it yeah. So that's right have that will see at her and I just put on bits and in doing so in people call up the ethical and answer a fan. Quiz real essential things that's really smart, though, because then everyone whose going is super, invest like they're. Really you make a more for it a little Betty aside. They like I'm once on and Letterman, I think Tommy the lower appeared and because, as plug publicizing one of my specials in an hee hee announced her Marie that he was getting divorce. Sometimes I think I predated that frankly, anyway, He was so. Nobody knew that Marie that Tommy, except somebody who saw Letterman and if they were fan they would have tuned in and sewed and Tommy revealed that his wife's name was Marie loves wife, his name or reach,

Merci Ludden Marie who trusted me my parents, but so we say who who is tell me: what's the name of Tommy Delors, wife? What They be desperate figure it out the internet they haven't like that. I will use it now. Smart, prevent now you ve, given it away on the show, so everyone will know how are things to like what, this Beazley children's name so wow, and so you would get this collection of light. Twenty five young people who were sorry invested hard won and then did you

worked out a lot of new stuff. That way, we would only. I was working on the search at that time. The James play the search for signs. Yet how often universe and I've got lots of videos from people standing up and saying? Oh, I don't know, what's a cut, what's the consciousness raising part because it was, there was a big feminist and middle bigs feminist centre. Piece in that play, so is something imposed its people, people didn't know what posted were. They had just barely broken, you know and in fact they were gonna. They were gonna buy show for show time or some HBO or whatever and decent kid. You change it to stick comes as its priority during the bag, lady and I would write on postage censure sickroom on our side, which is it really possible because it wants to that. I say I like that you they forget that note. Could you change this?

what does it matter if its victims are posted? That's what I mean you at this point. Do you still get notes about? Things are to pay just let you like lakefront and three go. You know people raising like people love you on West Wing. So do you when you go in. I would imagine what errand Sorkin that without firing nano airing, can I change the earth. Can I can I say instead Let me hear how are you gonna do not exaggerating but waiting. Algerian too much. No, I guess in that sense, that's pretty much like that. Inside his head again and so much was about policy and stop you had to be pretty accurate. Juno couldn't take often do too much very challenging one

fast you, I walked down the corridor afloat run over this trip and fall down. Do you prefer that? Or do you like to be able to come in and rip hands not depends on what their in? What what artist you're working with me? I mean you. Sometimes you wanna, be you wanna, be you you want to be running after them. Be they're taking you further ahead master. Now, if you'll excuse me, I hoped isn't going on Airways, but I guess it is that's fine. You know it's like some shows. I mean your general, you don't do them because you don't think the writing. You know what I'm not.

That same mind? That's not going to work for me, but generally I see I get it if I decide to take something it's because I feel like I'm somewhere, I'm going to find something about myself or about that character. That's going to be fun or rich to do a particular part that you learned a ton about yourself that you didn't expect. Why are you you do when you work on the stage I swear. I think actors love to work and theatre every night, especially if you do rich material like the search which on playing twelve characters and it's a wonderful it's just beautifully done in I'm giving. I know that if I do it well, the audience is this going to be valid aided in in enriched yeah now and I'm gonna register I can't I when I was doing the search. I would just love to do it every night because it was like. I had this secret gift. I was going to give them this play that

valued them so highly there and as collectively, so you just now. I say why people like you on the stage, because every night you discover something, you have some new sense memory or you find a deeper place for it. It may be some, where's out, and so you find an undue another reference horse or sense memory. This is when you're acting like a role, you know and doing I'm not telling you how come industry sketch candidature. Although you learned from that too, and eventually you get better- and you know you do stuff- and are you good at being done with for you good. You know that, so you still go back, you go. I should have done our God. Yeah beat yourself up all the way back to the dressing room, and then just you know this and angstrom

something you'd you couldn't, do you didn't think up sooner or the damn cameras turned around and they're not going to shoot. Your side again came up and you just just as a cameraman way way. Don't think that was just ripping reading for that person who cries out this up air many motivation for a walk in the other camera you just doesn't when I was that smart, you just say it really fetch you go, but yet so do while so you'd you beat yourself up a little bit. Will that's I'm sorry that you do that, but its comforting, because that is that is all I think we are I can't believe we don't I'll do I'd, be overstretched free, like really love, We do not want to be in know just wanna be make it the best. You can do whatever your work. Is do you have a do, have sort of a performance motor of focusing technique or do you just like I'll? Do it I'll get out there and do it? You know now. I don't have anything like that. You're just get out there.

We'll just try to just the idea of ice for a long time. I thought there's probably some place. My brain has to go so that I will be in the mode of everything will just be were I needed to be, and so I would buy would put you know I would experiment with different things. Like get super excited before the shock at similar elapsed before the shell I'll try to focus really hard or I don't even think about the show, and I what I've discovered is that none of that sounds like some shows? I just yeah you just sore mountainous areas think of it like a blind date. Juno's. Thank you. You want a really have a great date, but sometimes you just don't know, and you just have to be ok with yeah. Well, yes the you working with Tina Faye were that was Tina virus. Great, I accept I, you know I come to terms with the fact that I was not of her generation woody?

I mean I see the pollen teen, I think I'm their contemporary. You are you. Are you So, but I'm not I I you know I serve because they start. They asked me about the day I really hit me. Was we sat down to luncheon they wanted to know about shrinking woman and nine defy short? And I start thinking about it, and I realise there ten years old or something my ass, those movies came out. We're all did me, it is. It is really it is really hard to. Like I mean I, you know I mean movies nine, I've, shrinking woman, big business, big business here I mean you know they just do I have to have people were grown now in their thirties or whatever and heroin they'll come shake their Let me also say that step is great. I mean you just you're, very it's very gratifying, that connection like like an old piece,

I used to do you know. Lud Maria meets Dracula, daughter about the cake, and please please stop talking about. Swam, bitterest, lambs and kids for years, kids, semi, cakes backstage Anna and that so many Secondly, although you never know, I I get there, not now nature, yet the gap with the cake peace, loving regard me through my you know, during your high school got me through? High slate, have an old eight track and they play it in their dad's carcass? They think they are the only ones who have parents who are really. Why just I. I hope that you do feel like that. You're, a content where you ve just been working longer than they had been here, then you know you're, absolutely, that's absolutely true, but you know like. I don't think we would have gotten Tina without you. You know. Well, I don't know. I must say that you can't say that, but I can say it I mean there's a whole generation of people that you know that I have had some great kids is my offspring, talented. You know

I mean I played mother's. A lot of mothers now lay contain is one of them. You know I'm pretty proud of her she's a Add woman, I don't know how it's like we're. How do you do How do you write star in produce that you know a show. Hammerheads raise two kids then find the time to write movies and then throw a best selling book at the same time. Don't you do it? I have no idea, I just maybe I'm projecting but I automatically to there's no way she can happy. How does she have like? She must be just them almost burden her own sense of genius of like I used to get all this out of me. Robot dies a robot to exert. Some has been around her husband. She has a really cute husband. They seem really like a great copper, so you will work a hologram you pretty good with yours. Now I don't know I don't you think, I'm a workaholic path,

I don't want to. I don't want it, then I get press to work or something plus. I have to keep, When you live a long time. We have to keep earning money. That's true, you know, I mean I don't a die. So you know why I hope I love a really long time but got its veto. You got a really Groton Grant half hustled the throughout by given me half of which You give me a background of a Europe that you know cause that's how it goes well especially now that you don't worry, we're sort of out of the of coming out of the era of like his fifty million dollars the do a thing like everyone zero, when you do, pilots now they're like no other pilot presentations, which shall we have less money, Lesotho pilot, and with their whole thing with them with Sagen everything in the union's. You know the after contract see when you have to sign and after contract it was pretty Chauncey yeah. You know

yeah, but now that now the union's yes, those who are hoping for of that's how get strength back but damn admission is thirteen. The movie routine of right right and I player her mother, who is a notable sentiment feminist who wrote a notable block masculine myth and are an ivory my I've tried to raise her in my own region of fancy damage of this kind of Amazon Self determining female, independent, extremely independent, powerful, empowered probably genera just service he wasn't exactly that? Do you feel like now that do women reproach you online and like? What can you tell it like? What does it mean to be When is now what should I be focusing on, or what does it do? They must get there. Other. Now I dont get most young women aren't even keyed into it,

You know in the movie. I haven't tattoo Bela my upper shoulder here her arm and I did it because why nay, my daughter Porsche, that's teen his name and I might surname Betty and Gloria. So I want to have a care to have Bela, because you know young women don't know who Bela is in Belarus. I was really devoted to Bela. Thank you yourself, They could Marlowe when I some tomorrow, Thomas and I would go out need this is way back and we ghost like twenty we're gonna run for Congress in she was gonna, run out of Westchester and we go up there and tried get a crowd in the neighborhood, because we are both on tv that are well known and we'd be out. In its Marlowe and Lily all in everybody's coming around, and we see Bela's commerce she's going to speak here. In the end, we try to get pretty soon. Here comes the car with Bell and the door flies open Bela. We didn't stop for anybody, and here she comes out of the car just like that

tunnel bricks and with her head on in our shoes were big hat and pushing people aside. We have to run behind. You know she's a big. Now she was tell anybody, you know it you so great and everything, but there are lifesaving, just run over. She was. She was dynamite really, so you think now do you think that's a good thing or a bad thing that did that it. So You feel like it's not as much of an issue I don't know why I think it is an issue between movements, movements supersede others and in others, come in behind and sweep under the game with has been very powerful in the last jet generate ten years and they made credible. You, no progress, I think can knowing where we ve come from it like suddenly having about black president, The White House that forty years for Martin Luther King Tube Obama, although you can see the bat flash. Then they are people who the there there

system and the real fear and dislike of somebody who's different rules, starts a rear? Its head, I mean so some It happens. The women's movement in over lot lot of progress is made, and then they, you gotta fight a certain backlash right, I'm not even sure how to speak to a tuna, because I've I've lived it so for so many decades and things like one of the one of the fall out sufficient them. To me, I'm nuts, I shouldn't speakers. If I know what the doctrine is, because our that I re recreated it- I like that you're sitting here, he's too like the division of Europe. Finally got a good and bad. As you know, of women and girls hey more sexually available. I mean a cry. The board young girls, I'm taught you know ten, twelve forty We were pretty available to, I will say, but

not the way it is now you, girls are just so sexual eyes in the culture. Young girls. I'm trying that baby girls still enough. Position to make these choices? I don't think so. You like like, will it also, particularly with like pageant culture Oh, my god, yeah, that's gruesome, isn't it but you know in another handed creature a much more diverse and liberated people. Maybe, but it's like the values are so skewed and crazy that guess it's I don't know I've, certainly don't want suppression or anything like that, but I hear you know, there's just too many girls, many young girls. That get you who sexually you know cause. Naturally, boy I mean my god young a fortune, a boy is ready to stick it anywhere, and I stand that and I dont too, you know I I I view him as a kid too.

Girls- have their no safe. They got us. They got to protect themselves in some way, because I used I say to rebuild the other night. We were doing a show where she was worried that her daughter, as two kids on the show, a girl and a boy, both teenagers and she's father Europe has fallen in love with the boy next door, and I said you somewhere, I camera with the joke was damaged, but it was like I say: well the boy the boy leaves his seamen here at the house in design and the girl has to bring that seem and entered the house, and whatever happens, you ve got it right here in your house's, but nobody took no, they don't talk about it. That way. It's sort of like that's why the girls have to be protect. Themselves in some way, what you hope, that's where parents incomes and why you hope it, but it doesn't matter peer pressure, surpasses guaranteeing unless you have such a, soundly enlightened set of parents said. I don't know that anybody has somehow canyon you ve got human beings you're trying to keep going in the couch rates,

just a huge Moran and of what of confused in turmoil and will there's no champion certainty, there's not just peer pressure at school now with a handful of kids? Now, what's the entire global collection of people, peer pressure and look at these poor, these two boys in this poor girl, and why? Whatever possess him to take part, grass and put it on the internet and then what? What? Where did this disc that come that they would urinate on this girl just cause she's out of it, but so much crap is accepted and you know its freedom of speech, freedom of what I don't know, but we got a habit, but then we got it like. You said we need some kind of universal parenting that helps you help your kids, maybe that's what matrix steps, then maybe the matrix is in such a bad idea. If they can sort of temper. I want a new thing. I want murder goddess. What's it like me,

loser gotta. Since your kind of tell benevolently try to help trying to help everybody come to some kind of I understand from Kennedy putting a lot in this Maybe this is how we are no more than an actual action was a good character. I think this is a good character like a good benevolent per hour. I think there's Nobody in there? I think, there's comedy in that character, yeah. How can we do it like like this, this debt that phrase? Actually that was a character the Jane had in written for us a project she worked on a long time ago. We are goddesses only stayed with me and we kind of some Linda Hunt. Has motor gotta see, but I think you I think I think there is. I think this this wise love, loving, totally lodging and no do not written the judgment is not you know it. The judgment is more of an embrace. It's like, you know, tender its tender, but it's also

its scolding and in a tender way out and like use. This is not why I gave you this earth to do. Why are you you know she's almost, maybe maybe almost on the edge of a little passiveaggressive but so lovely? I think there is, I think, there's a phone. I think, there's a fun bit of of comedy there. You know, I'm just flash non. Stop that's in that play. I'm gonna go back to that, I'm in a pulsing choice. They have many, years ago we have looked at it since standing up its awesome I'm glad I got to be resolute see. This is where we have now see. This is an example of what Something springs up and just gets on the radar blips up in it. You say it's a revelation, but does that fund that you can have in front of you for years and a new kind of over your you know you're sitting over and over and then one day you go only

Why didn't I that idea? What the what was I thinking yeah, I agreed news. It's wonderful! Maybe you just want ready yet or I don't know what it is, but it's nice so as to be able to do, and its lovely I'm graduate this K. I'm going to keep this would be a bond between us by now the EFTA, because right you see in your sake, you know I was there. I I'm the one that suggested to her stand up in the middle, the assurance that is just like a pair of everyone. This is no everytime. I do motor got us a motor greatest mitigated. Ukraine was why do you keep doing that Lisbon? You know, I'm I drink this CUP of coffee, I'm flying you Dave. I've been talking faster and faster. Only added, although I feel like I have you oranmore, our let's go, get sorted out. Ok, you're. Here are easy to talk to you. I really appreciate that, and we are. We are kind of at the end of time, but I really, I really could talk to you for all day, but I

dominate now. Let's save some of the wording of some of the fur. Please come back on. Ok, would you can't? I would love to come back on? Oh my gosh, I have no, I there were really talking to lots of people GINO I think we're just gonna be reenacted shown feel next time. Let's have beer o my lord, but there's gonna be all right. Well, it's really been fine thanks. Thanks, though, examine enjoy burrito. Everyone pays it now. I can't have you tell me why the promo the show? No not promo, we we tell people to enjoy their burrito at the end of the show. I see, and the fan part of me is try try to I've been trying to play it cool this whole time, but you know eyes lily microphone. Ask. But could you possibly to say enjoyable reader to any kind of like a Z.

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