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Well it's just items. The second squirrel reference was made to the nuts hat. Was no other people don't know that they will eventually we're hoarding it. So you won't hear it for fucking Prima, I'm sorry for use this reality, but these nuts we'll be scattered and it s a periodical point. This feels like a scanner. Those nuts this is this is this is this. Is the sixth pipe cast I've been too? in a week. It's great. It's amazing you're, not on this episode up gotta get up now. This is how we get you in this is a great up and were not there. Yet that is sponsored by a great spots, this episode is Michael Ironside who jester didn't. The great am and just you know, cause use promoting this will be called extra.

Here which is in theatres now, and I was like you know what I've been offended that guy for years he's been. Some of my paper movies, of course, will have on. I had no idea how incredible in this. I think it might be one of my favorite podcast. I've been on this of like three hundred episodes known as the only time I almost cried. This d is amazing, was so contemplative and and I thought it was rude. Soft spoken and articulate, and and wonderful too I mean full of life. Yes, stoke to be alive and before he left he gave me a phone, I'm gonna call Michael Ironside, I'm gonna fuckin, hang out with that guy When I have more Ironside my lady his I bet he began to play catch dear me, that is a euphemism. Not I mean you shop was based burglar. I think you were disease.

Job in a wheelchair. Now that using of iron sides the show with Raymond Birth sign, he was a little air. The guy or glare Underwood, I think Blair Underwood, maybe was the New Ironsides mature Michael Ironside is my Allison. His name and easily algerian. I'm sure he's. Never that I'm sure I probably even said that in the pod gas, although I don't Chris said Ferris and when I was a reference, is Europe, but at any rate, is nurse pike, s number six or seven with the incredibly cool Michael Ironside, nor entering noticed.

A com just target levels, horizontal lenders What about it- and I thought about it- is really true from where I come from, say: fuck magnified, how do you when the conversation again discuss eminently politely, faint no matter what it is to say. Thank you and walk away. It seemed it. When they were whenever there is like. Kind of a riot or something up in Canada like what what happens? this was the happened up there.

As you do Vancouver riches are really can, near the oceans, slid up and left the tide line on. The right is little EAST West rivalry, Toronto right in needed. It does the business. Who were part of the river there like he will you pick it up and I have no idea they use air jogging. Not that you guys. I thought you were supposed to be fighting with Montreal not its Toronto. Vancouver. Adjusting the Canadian is canadian than this Vancouver everywhere with separate already has its own. It's on. Let all kind of the mountains stop something They re got stuck in the sixties, economist, second, the sixties alone, but it's not the universe. Most populous city in North America think Hoover is yes, the Morse more Puber square for the need men. Oh, my god. I didn't know that the other watersheds up there are going bad like in the middle of summer now because they're running and he got a filthy.

Halfway through the summer they just completely over. So this is where the zombie apocalypse starts and who, I would say, probably in Burma, be ok, that's yes, sneered to avert. The boy to bite somebody visit and wait and for this will not at all, is this game recorded? Yes, a girl, but this welcome home Bernie. You're. Welcome to Canada Attack things, Canada with Michael. Inside our guest today, so you grew up in Toronto. What's your honor is a city that I happened to love because its somebody Travis, let I appreciated is planned very well. He lit, to get around that that mixed downtown yeah, that's true anything, out of downtown. What would you have to go up these Adam values like that? I it gets a little crazy them really planned ahead yeah, but it is its if quickly taking over the horse again almost diseases thing over the whole Mars.

You're Shore of Ontario, now I'd like Ontario anything, so why Canadians are funny? they are hilarious. Really, yes, doing it now and your Canadian that that pregnant pause. That's that's genius. Comic timing at work. Is the I dont an absolute we're doing reusing levies on the guy's earlier that I have no idea? I've known, were you carbon? If Android, I. Somebody was shy. I dont know from shy. I was always frightened so well, It was so sure this Croatia always come on back trying them. At last. I think, probably shortly control under manipulated sure that dog no knives, never one for comedy it, sir. I get nervous around it.

I did. A film called on Georgia, the dancer with virtue prior yes, and which he based on his life and if you ve ever been able editor in chronological order and I predict he hasn't been character, the saved his life and in Illinois, but why point we're sitting driving in this room driving with Sir saddened all was the woman place after your name norm Torreon preparatory with this? But she, though, is Sir Richard. Prior this other actor and Billy exiting on the back seat, not these roll, legendary performers and grew up the reaction, something that rigid framework greatest words of all time and then saddened and I'm sitting in the front, and we done three takes in the sound studio and his car and we ve just saved his life his character, and then this will, let's improv One and I swear to you.

I ask all got so tired. I think I'm gonna, I've, gotta improvisation and they went on in the improv just took off their own, no one here to help, and there are just going on and on and on and on and trying to one up whenever we're like that now said, they're going with factor, I do one point that ever stuttering he kept trying to get it to anyone tonight and is a hugely shut, the fuck up and he got quite now start now. What did I do wrong and I kept having and they all started laughing Richard Richard ended up rolling up in the back in his seat. I could see his feet in the mirror and I end with Tony on you. I've got to take it on me, but you do he put it on three quarter for me and I've got at home, but it's one of my my only attempts at humor thing on camera. What was Richard like rituals, great riches, a friend was Richard, like ah painfully honor

I think you got offensive that watching a stand up and which is one of them and why was so groundbreaking at the time the view which was those guys, you never ass an opinion of unless you want an answer, my honest answer and it gives you would give usually undressed up yeah but and the heavy were were less room not being around yeah Lizzy I mean it. Is that so much a comedy wouldn't be what it is without that guy he wants a eight. He was telling us one day on set the centenary said he you know, I was as where did you learn that as a weapon has as as a piece of art she was Kitty soon disrupted part. My family stuffy says I learned came home. He said my grandfather's. What my ass any says now want to documents, and I fell off the steps I phoned dog Pooh. He says and I stood up and they also deadline look saying that dumb son of a bitch she's got dog shit all over and all that and and says,

and I guess I've just been kindly fawn and dogged through all my life to kindly keep people at Bay, and I said, don't I said you gonna fuck with that movie any does it he actually talks about. He says in the movies is when I was a kid I fell in dog shit and they all laughed and roll round darkshire for the rest of my life. That's up at the beta didn't restore that's based on that was him talking, but his grand and in trying to duck in open my own dog who It is interesting to hear you say that essentially eyed, and I appreciate that you say that you get shine social situation. I can. I can I get the same way. Report. I don't really know the lay of the land I hang back to, but I think you're imposing figures people, like he's, angrier, he's power of office out. What's wrong, nothing, I'm just thinking my father. They got a hold of him in an impasse number seven years they got a hold of northern Ontario after my mom died. My data heart attack

the three kids at home. We move the monitor midnight in Ontario and raise the kids uptown peace allowing building a house and working class families duff and they got ahold For the radio one day for an interview and death- and they said to my dad this Mr Evans, I might learn to replace a lotta heavies and ever like that, and how do you feel like it? It's my fault and visit. I beg your pardon me shit. It's my fault. He is my face This is all my life is, are I'll, be thinking, people think I'm angry and he's It's my fault. You never gets a pretty good guys, and I can't do this interview. I gotta go in young. That was my dead end. In our view that ever since the three I'll be thinking and we will see, drive and you and I'll go well even if the smile I gotta, then I got here. You have to do extra work to let people know that this is everything's. Interestingly you'd in the Japanese, when they put literature and

the very basic rule and they say take the obvious and reverse it. You know they end we're on camera, show you and most people's reach for illegal yet and an elite backing. Hard for you to say I hate you when a real in real life, it's lovey invested the Inter emotions at a more difficult ones. So, if you can, if you know that and you're willing to play with that, they made an interesting character, yeah zillions of it just sort of playing with the gap between what is expected in also, But then what like that? That's what great depth, because if you see everything up on the surface, then there's nothing. Interesting are surprising about their rights, intuitive units just don't want something real or not. We organically know something. That's, why we're we're sitting in a dark theatre looking through the window into somebody else's life and privacy, the air conditioning go out, and if it's a really good movie, you don't give a shit you can in babies concur

thing be crowded city, your pay attention, because it's it's a privilege that looking and look into somebody else's life you we're not supposed to be. There were people down from her watch. A movie if it's a bad performance up there, your wherever everyone's coffee or where the seat you were the sound of the popcorn and the guy's box to roast back because, people in that movie or the movie itself is making it about them and not about the audience rang. Our job is to not remind guidance that they're sitting in the dark looking through a window. That's what we do when we make shelves you know and that's why I'm kind of against using computers and plenty of and platforms to, watch movies, because it takes that, hiding process away from the audience you're not supposed to be there you're looking into somebody else's life. It's done properly, That's really interesting. I never thought of it that way. It's my I'm old bugaboo, sir, but you'd also

So when you are creating this the sort of way artistic experience for the audience, do you agree or disagree? as an actor. You really have a lot of control. I, like you, really just have control over what your piece of that is. So you don't have you. Can you have October saying yes or no to the project first right and then you have control over brain. Would you be Two, it is real as possible is having an emotional base, no matter how far score sarcastic her, how ridiculous the characters of space. In reality the character is somewhere, but extra terrestrial is basically I knew there was a vet who couldn't deal with. Society is a friend of mine. He ended up in the Santa Monica Mountains and when a script was sent Mary, was really well written and that I printed up my when the teacher going to read it again then took a meeting with the directors and the writers have had. One of these are real good guys, they're going to take this basically bee movie.

Chandra and turn it into something with dignity? And I said this is what I want to do with this character and they said: okay and I've tried to pay truth to the now. Yes, my friend is now been on the streets, else in his career for seven years now, but there was a time when he didn't trust. Anybody elegant beyond his knees and my favorite. He did not want to come down and walked the streets. He did not trust you and he didn't trust what he would do to you oh and cause he was terrified, and so I took that bases put it in Travis. Now this is not a heavy film. This is very light fell, but there's organically correctness about that care to Travis, and that's the big trick canoe. Can you bring back I'll ring of honesty and integrity? Do with you? as an actor and what's the biggest challenge behind them being willing to look stupid, attempting it falling dodges falling into and really I mean I think, I'm at it

age no round willing to take risks. I'm actually dry stuff that I was taught forty years ago under start trying at long last five years it has been more comfortable. Now I think one am older. I have less fear of being rejected and too I've had cancer too a new and gotten over that it looks like I'm an extra innings here. So I know Time is valuable and there are some things that I want to learn, by her long. My arm is an all on my emotional Armas so and I'm at that stage macro river one thinks they know who I am so I'm trying to reinvent myself, so I can get some opportunities in one of protest this creatively fun to it is. If you get the opportunity, is always somebody wants a hippie muscle, Gimme, Ireland omitted the old lady with a shovel such the. They may lots of money doing that over the years as mild. Joking, he may become Elizabeth Tale shovel may become Chrome played it, but it's still movie industry

very, very, very risky business and at him very risky, as you know, and people want is much to guarantee, is impossible my question of somebody's made money off me in an hour later, what his shovel? That's all they want me to write so for me to say, I know I can actually it always with a truck I can. I can. I could draw your badge off the roof and the days ignored or not just to shovel woogie. Somebody else does roofs. Do you notice, It's it's it's it's very, very certain very narrow, but then is an art form. That's where you got money simple of course, but the nets where you I feel like as a performer gonna, have to go then seek out the kind of things You want to build the sort of a few Gary argument. If you get the authorities, make the thing that you want well, then again you gotta get finesse you're back to money again like it. I ve been very fortunate. I'd rather be working, then be altruistic and sitting say: I'm not.

Our job as it brings much reality. If I get a choice to the things I choose and I've been fortune after work further concisely for over forty years, you- but there are things like I said not I want. I want to see how long I really do want to dress himself. What did you learn from surviving cancer. If that's not a dumb question, oh well- browser I read thyroid cancer. In fact, I had very cancer in Brussels and in the process. Kind of funny at my prize decades, your prostate cancer, and it is well. Is it fast moving slowly, we're not sure we are three lad tests back so ones and decide, have you not, I should well what am I gonna do, but they should work could be. Six weeks could be six years. Sixty years went on that's what I'm gonna do movie. They should ok, but checking whether this will do blood everything

day. So much a numbers see what happens if they go to your column on punch holes for your browsing and Saigon Planet went to Bulgaria to do a film animals. I was in their more in a day and I checked name, isn't messages and then the Harvey colleagues that I was right fast, moving get your ass in and I call them. I said get in there I'm in Bulgaria, and he said I thought you were going to Burma. The literally opposite. He said if you say well, when are you coming home? I said November first any lose. I never seen Harvey Mere my dogs for years and never seen that quietly when don't need on the plane, and I didn't really suggests very fast moving, I so I'll be over to five weeks. I'll see you on the first thing he said literally, we got to move on this quick that someone over fourteen days, I got back the 15th. I did not turn on the 15th and my come out of the surgery says it had jumped. We didn't know if we got it all so I,

I should really like sixty up me said now: sixty sixty five down and I want all k and was interesting. I've. I've is over thirty one years, not right. Now that I was with twenty seven and I'm in it. I had a friend a cobbler extreme single extra earnings. Are you doin because he knew I was when I was out there and, and I got used to the idea of dying. I really got usually idea ice usage and get it and my answer. You I think, you're getting married nano you're, getting a study on the doktor came back and you, yeah, we got it all like that, but we do more tests for sure, and I should really so I went back and six. We say those tests were inconclusive. They did more. And I really thought I was going to die and I feel like both property should paid, for we got a place in Montreal. Get a house here I got insurance policies out, policies of the ass evidence can be pay for, and I've had a pretty good life, and in am

things in a really really looked after fine. So did this came back here on a Friday night, when my wife overrun we're going to the movies and call the police Moreover, he said I wanta your Kansas right from one more time, no one really in Asia to that back. I don't want to ruin another weekend for you as it thanks I'll. Take you on Monday, my wife and we hugged, and my wife is as we and embraced I looked in its rearview mirror the current said: do you think I should get my eyes on home again lose goddamn weight. And she laughed and said, he's back he's. Ok, the price was his anger depressed I get depressed for about a month I went to see Harvey and I gp my JP told him. I totally depressed shouldn't be any me should be in a term the shrink I knew was due for up to the citizen.

I went and saw her and she said it's totally understand by so. What's friggin understand what she said. We're all afraid of death were all afraid of die you for a very short period of time, so you had some kind of control over that they give new. When you were gone out and you have control over it, and I knew she was telling me basically the truth, because I found myself set up what you saw tomorrow, whether it makes sense that you thought you knew when the end was coming. So you get your house in order. Never like tat- and I don't know anymore- she said now you you're. The brisk is your back into the deep and with the rest of us. We don't know- and I was in a nato- sends me that's which changed. I know that time is very limited. I've dealt with that little black hole that regards squeeze ourselves soon, dont really comprehend called death, and I think I want to get some soft done before it's not a bucket list there.

Certain things that I've been reticent to try that I'm not so reticent anymore. So too, weird not at all what what what are you? What is it that you want to try really loving, loving people, other people, people places and things have got some stories that I've been sitting anchors. My fear of the actual material, my fear following the material as one about India that was told me, playing years and years years ago, that I wrote down and I I may do next year. I made at the end of next year this financing with India that wants to do it. My big was that if I go to India have like changing event and I'm afraid of life, changing because this is a challenge that you could draw energies and now that I've gotten through this whole Almaty. Die of cancer. I more easily embracing that idea. I've never heard that before

the idea of being afraid of a life changing event, but I do understand I'm afraid I have a friend who goes to calculate every year works at a clinic for a month, and Ngos often does teaching the shell and temple and mission. On balance sheet is every year she got them says, Michael, you should come maybe next year she suggests because she knows I've said it's alleging event and terrifies yeah and I may go they sure what we're doing like that. Did you know I mean I do know. There's things I'm very aware of the limited time I am sixty four years old the youngest is our youngest is fifteen, and when my wife, that breast cancer twice and then I got cancer couple times, she went through all this. And I went into her bedroom but generally one night and after I just gotten over there, the cancer And she,

turn and gray- and I said, are you all right? She goes, I don't want you to die and- and I said I don't have any control over that, but I tell you what I will stay alive as long as I can, and I saw the color come back in the face. You said you promised, and I said yes did you subtract that? Can I have pie with my lunch tomorrow night and then so I knew everything was cool. She was asking incident on the trail, but that really hit me was I want, while I'm at the age, where I got to stay as long as it is not just about you right in the story, but I have a limited amount them. I'm aware of the link to my arm chronologically now. You I've, seen seventy four Euro people, they don't eat really. Well, they don't walk, really well someone. They drive like shit You know also nobody's gonna, give that person the opportunity to run a film crew right. You know, We stand it. I just a wall should something in it was great to see him, but I thought my gun so near the balls. The

Where do we stand up and Amazon or friend of mine- and you don't owe me so got a very short window time here to be able. You possibly what I want to do. The dew dignify some Well, maybe not a short as you want, but because I will say this Ma Am Thursday Sunday is the one you and of my dad dying and in the end he basically just he was lucky because he just drop dead. Like you just cheats, lucky for you, so I mean he didn't suffer through anything, ok without orally. Far as anyone knew ostensibly, he was healthy up until the second that he died right. So you didn't have to. He never became an old guy. What was his full name? Billy Hardwicke, William Heartbreaker Billiard, William yeah that ring a bell or limit so he made the indian the natives say that euro. As long as your name said, the youth did I too DES one: is it

The second one is the last time you name said. Ah, that's chilling. I never thought about that. Really weird write it down somewhere. I will. I will definitely am hard. When are we recorded it? Well, it's every arena, Would you not saying it's? Ok, yeah, but but but the fact is he was seventy two years old and but you know, he looked and acted like he was in his mid. Fifty is like you never would have. You know still ran a business, but he just think there's things that I just think that there are things that some people don't do all the time and obviously there are circumstances that prevented, but I do think if you eat relatively well and exercise. It does extend your chances for mobility. The older you get and not you know see, don't just sort of. I think the people that sort of thing like this. It's just that tourist inert for a lot of it said these important lip yeah I mean, esoteric, metaphysical the conversation riches

I have now got, I feel like I have. A responsibility to be is present is possible and everything I'm doing. I'm very aware when I shut down I'm very well when I just said a sit down to watch a hockey game or I take that pause. You know cuz. My head is very active a lot. I'm very aware of my daughter, my fifty on very well. Oh, my oldest I'm very aware of the taste of food. I'm very aware of the my wife's hand in mine are very very aware of when she rolls over in the middle of night and if I'm awake, I'm aware of her breathing, it's not it's not to the point of being obsessive compulsive. It's almost like in celebration. Liberation about everything. Now that I am very aware of one of an I'm trying to find a way to articulate the bats

Visual sense unites, like you know, about offered. A lot of things are direct over the years. I just can't find anything that I find worth the use of that time at best like as advisers, ten years, if I'm lucky, if unfortunate, if I say if I get thing that gift and to stake eight to twelve months of that implicit up against the wall. Doing something that is not an articulate which should be used at time should be useful her. So it's kind of a mega that pay myself into a corner, but I hope that well, I hope I mean look not enough, not that you asked for any vice for me, but I do think that sometimes you you know and that no one knew very well. So please forgive me it don't sound like you're trying to control that you know what like, if you just start down a path of,

I'm trying to be more responsible sure, but I think, but I think you know you obviously have a very strong What you want to say. I don't think you would let it get to appoint really, but at the same time I am aware of the accidents. For example, I was allowed to read. I was allowed to read my my data grey. Education, those books ever where my mom and dad read the admin low. Twelve foot Hosni Senator. We're allowed to have a light on at night. As long as we were reading lol, I guess it is fine and I would read I was like Anything that I found his eyes it was on the bedside tables had already get if it's on the four aggravated. So I read it from lady charities lovers to carry on the pirates to vanish Gorsky? to anything. My David member. We were allowed to read and and I told made out of that- and I told me that- and I said is that she agreed anyone. Do you have laid eyes on your reading? She said. Okay,

one night I got up and governments now disaster and I went in and shit honestly reading the lash uniform- and I took the book and a tree the light and I was seriously emotionally. I'm leaving I realise that every time I ever my leg was always- and I was the smallest. My father had done come in every night and turn my head off when I was reading and ever knew it, and here I am sixty. My years old, and I get that revelation. I get that recycling of my life and that's what I'm interested him. That's I'm trying to find those corroboree points that are in all of our lives, because there the things that touch people,

unfortunate- that it I mean do this is something that you wish you had figured out sooner. Do you know? I think I'm I'm I'm another, which I am glad that I had the opportunity to feel it. Now I mean it's part of the rights of passes me if you saw the stuff I've been to recently. I think we got a slowdown take those moments. We gotta understand some this that you have those moments, your life, you guys have everyone here. As its. In a world wherever these being shut down, edge, trimmed down and- squeezed into a tweet either we have set. And a little more time and and maybe take a breath and give the story a little more time Why always I mean I've been saying for a long time and I think the reason why feels like time moves so fast, because we're distracted every minute by something, as opposed to I wonder I wonder if this instead of soda feel like she has to go, sit in the cabin for a month with literally with nothing, nothing completely unplugged.

And I am sad to say my brain is like you- could never do. Thou nervous. I currently have any interest in that. I do want to I do want to be able to look at things, and I say it like: I'm incinerating holds that wall women. One, was a more daring done on that wall in that's those berkshire igniting twenties deserve their own, kill, style Berkshire. There's the marble work in the bathroom below thing should remain, as they are wanna be paid tribute to the heritage of storytelling. I want us to the heritage. It has got us to this point, yet I constantly re push it behind us right, it's too slow. It's too slow. We ve got the sentence that box assault. At the same time, I know my dad my dad used to say all the time is anybody. You get a step and smell the roses every day. It is that a person is a lucky boy. It's a rookie book hats,

it's amazing, as is our task as was reasonably assign, like all the gas in the last month, and did you see that the tilted Harrison did on? Was it Jimmy following late night, some I gotta just happened to see it. I am ready, What he's got dressed unworthy stands up in the audience and Paris afford at an argument with him locked off. That was one of the most brilliant bits of dvds was a failure. Kimmel there's something because he likes the environment camel because I feel like I feel like he'd like soup. He likes to play up the cranky guy on Kimmel in particular. That's what he did any better. Like you, peace, shit, and I wish him a common ideas. It end, and I just don't know that is talk about double in trouble. Dont wonderful. It took that many years after a movie like that and his career like the colony

of so many things lining up to make that moment, work pretty good stuff, so you, Is this going the way you wanted to go on? Don't these issues radiation. It goes wherever we weren't gonna show is the situation it's just think of it. This way, it's it's our conversation with someone that you're interested in learning more about it's like having a coffee jet. So it goes wherever, but I it's better, I mean listen. We could I've seen. Million things you ve done. I could ask your million questions about scanners are too recall or seek were anything but to hear sequence, but this is. I dont tactics. We brought the dolphin I don't like the fish but a, but I think you know, What's interesting is

Do you like this and really getting a sense of who you are, I think, is what is what's fun for me. Drunk gave you know, but and what I might ve interlink we could veer into. We could veer into some act act I know also everyone. I know also that you started writing when you were a teenager and so Do you still is that is that something that you ever act The pursuit of worry it was at part of that I was. I did a lot of rum proof when it first got the last as I did, but ninety four I didn't hear on nineteen features in Canada before I was absolute broke from state- Canada and came down here and when I got here, I did the first. Researchers yarn of it and I think riches from the first summit it might have been Richard Parcel was does matter, but I did. A lot of rewriting had worked with a lot addressed

and Canadian produces moved on it, so they would send me first, I'm writer, directors and say look at the script boards at the forty eight days. They got it cut it under thirty. Can you walk from through it cause I'd done a lot of that kind, so. I made my way that way. As a writer Writing lies. I gotta figure of sitting just recently of family members may sit back in the day when twenty thirty years ago. I thought I knew about everything online, everything and butter. My writing craft was not that great now that my writing craft his great I'm. What I know but, as you know, the answer run five years ago, his kind of re rewarded, the books and my library its reorder. The way look things. So I do know that don't always my time, I do know that our finnish, something now I'm not sure what it is Members a kid I mentioned in my son and the oldest of five- and I have like a said eighty someone. Eighty

seventeen. Ninety seven first cousins and I'm remember sitting with my sister on the top of the stairs at home when we're little guys- and you know where they re feeder- actually on this, it's a little because I member were leaning forward on her knees and say I don't know why I'm here, but I know it's important talking but lady should meet you and I remember that I mentioned it to her last Christmas cuz you're in for that conversation, I should do feel the same way she said earlier, and I sent me too. I dont know why we're here, but it's gotta be important, but an arms in trying to find out. I think we, as most people can go through that. I don't know they articulated that way, but it it's like those. What's it all about our feet. Moment. She will you. I think I think some people are to collate it in. So we will article eight through action. You know they just do crazy shit when a figure out like maybe this is it's. You know like their experimenting and trying to figure out. Who is the thing that's gonna make it make it clear in some

I don't know if you know how to arrive at an west was on yesterday's eighty four years old many cities, a vague. We notice that a similar thing, which is that it was like I realise the older I get the less. I know like you doesn't know so his whole thing. That's true. I know that I don't know less, I don't know if it's worth me trying to jam it down your throat that is going to pay any attention it's going to. How do I do the best so, when I know right, you know, I mean what I'm saying: it's it's it's. How do you delivered so somebody else can digested right. How do you take your life is because most most most things in a worthwhile experiential. That's why I think of ass. We get older event, more experiences,

we're safe enough with the material we get, we get a chance to assimilate into a conversation, a piece of work, a piece of art and hopefully present somebody so they can digest and everyone here enhance or help order, their life and boy. That's a hidden heading thing. I just said are. You I'd made me think of something, but you know announcing an end. I don't If no less feel less. She need to be acknowledged for what I know right. If you know, need seventy. Why you're smart stop fucking There's no man! I want to suck your dick. You know I mean yes, sir. I just met you and this bus. That's very yes, cannot be it's like God, damn it I'm gonna make. You feel good for the thing you just put it for me. I know where we all around saying it's not like that. It's not do exchanged blowjobs for knowledge.

And eighty introduced by the gets interesting that either we have this biological directive. I think our brains in general have this biological directive to speak to spread our dna with its very inappropriate image. It inevitably just when it is known that zone for not on a bus and don't say well, but I understand yes, but you know we have this biological directive two to pass on our genetic material, but then also it sounds like that this parallel emotional directive to pass on. You know the cat. I feel it they tell the jungle. I've been damn sorry. On the bogus before I myself, I was on a plane but fifteen years ago, on the first time they get the flap and first class. It was a big deal for me because I was built was work. It was like other flab fancy now and I'll sit. A plane in two seats over Jean Claude Van Vandam and we're flying over storm, and it was the first time ever

loan over a lightning storm- and it was unbelievable, just like it looked like. However, imagine like an animal of a brain looks. This is like throbbing mass of lightning whipping through it, and so I said- sort of out loud rhetorically? I'll, be really great. If there is some way to put this experience in someone's else's experience with someone else's head and John Club indebted something like but no, this experience is just for you and it should be. You are you alone, if something very profound about how you know something just for you basically, and I was that there was a really interesting. You know like me, Some things are forever whenever we don't have to. U notes smear our desire, a development which is about what you're doing right now, as it is acknowledging the validity of have one of those experiences. I guess if somebody else's, that or ever those army to moments the sick, because how many times you go through some in and we're so super self conscious in this universe. Now that you know cuz, everything is ever these is examined,

cameras everywhere, others podcast everywhere. The screens everywhere, where every looking up everyone's asshole, I'm trying to tell everyone. Do you know where the same and we're not the same? we need to know if you're alive and that in any sort of like validate that you can have a feeling validate that that is significant value than you know. The I do. Not necessary that, oh I, while I can have that moment and like total recall, the machine? You re right now now I think we're all alive. Albert being alive, yet also expand, also including your fear, just appreciate the thing just for itself: Have to make it any more than that necessarily stop us one moment. I was first sober where it was at the beginning of the tv series we had to fly down to Oklahoma for some Oglala Dallas area. For this balloon shoot. It was in December.

For we really started shooting and they wanted in the movie, because at the end, the series, because we spread the alien stuff that kills the aliens from balloons and so they want to shoot me in conjunction with this huge balloon festival, names in the fall and food out for them and then I had to go to New York and I was flying and I was newly sober at that time. It was about a year sober and fighting for. Dallas to New York, the plane had some problems and they should run up to stop early somewhere. We're going to forget where it was, and it was Washington and I and all the way through I was obsessing on these two suits the recent across the offer me getting hammered ever done, like a barn thing, we're good at it still another on top down and they had stuck in their shirts. Acting quite like I used to end, and I was sitting obsessing on them and ass. We came in for landing notice to drugs and errors in sick

If we do hidden forego sideways, put your head, none to others, narrowly toning, amateur them. As you came for the landing deplaned it hit. What would happen has ever done any of the landing gear was screwed up and it once I was on the runway and just as it did member looking over the do drugs or too busy pig in their asses and going round where I got this thought on We're gonna die and they're gonna miss it up a ship, it end, It was a look of minor personally for me was like holy shit. Yeah, that's about it waiting being alive. You know me. I got it now, a very clear message that certainly these ass, their like around, and everyone was like just adrenal Ized afterwards, yet this natural coming off was it we ve got to look at the window that guy's on Friday when his and let me see- and the steps and the whole many years all mangled the stuff, but

was that one of those moments should remain so late. I know that moment I am, I have eleven years I'll give you- and I know that moment, because if this is the very thing that it's, why don't stay at parties too, because at a certain point of like these conversations are failing to report the can design. These are not real conversations. This view I can remember, but that was light- has there's always lady firm should going on out of time you willing to certain slow down sub searching for trust that is there beds we want for hours keep going it's. Why? I don't it's! Why it's it's, why you know whenever shitty person Things happened, like you know like when my dad died, or whatever it never occurred. To me like. I would be great if, like it's our drinking and because I felt like he deserved me to experience that as clear as myself in a real way was interesting. My dad's best, like I said my dear, I have my mom

digging brothers and sisters, agnosticism, first cousins. On my mom side, my dad had one brother who got killed during the Second World WAR and my dad Catalan, such a wise person. We goodwill and each day now they got all the answers and we are left with a dilemma. I never really got it and tell his best friend died and my uncle Jim, this his best friend my mom's older brother. There recently sent a strong message: children stay together. I was propagated and then they got married afterwards when her father loved the permission of my dad to marry her butt at my house. Is my mom's older brother, where, in the shoe congregation of this funeral, Peter Peterborough Ontario, and these Bird flew up in the middle of it and I was standing at the back and watch the birds go up and as a result, you them. I looked and the only to people but

sixth year there was my dad and I learned virtually smiled. I mean he's like a MRS, his best friend and I got it. Slick afterwards. If he's got all the answers and he said TAT the answers so that with comprehend that made me feel safe, I don't know how you know remain and. Safe and not afraid to die safe and that that that someday you'll get answers that doesn't end here. I think here morning and as it when I got the car I was actually have an accommodation where my dad before I realise that as an autonomous tell her, I feel it always they want, and you told me and then again in the morning- and this is what I got in the car- I was actually having a conversation with my dad before I realized that I said I don't know if I should tell her they want- and you told me in a dodgy aloud- and I realized on talking to my dad Like the answer, I think so, yeah

It's not. What are the right answer? The fact I mean questioning this stuff that I'm not being in parenting. I believe you should let the kids did your kid see you It's the question! It's not with her at the right answer: the fact that I'm even questioning this stuff that I'm not being in parenting. I believe you should let the kids as your kids to you as awkwardly as possible. Does the illusion that we all got our shared together is gonna get screw up again rise? Let him let him see you and all your bunsen warts and your industry Just be honest about it say I don't Let's go find. Somebody does yeah that was whereas raised so I find that sometimes in those moments? I just imitate my other in any imitating him. I actually come up with an answer as like: oh yeah. This is what he would say, but I have to do it out loud. We're like I have to get into that into the character him to actually then extracted

vice than I need- and that momentum was powerful thing by their tyres- sat on oh yeah, and I really didn't. Try that doctors stop put now the should. It have me faith in it, I'll. Do the walls and do you think? Is it because intuitively it for you like saying, I don't know is: is but I don't know allows you say: let's go find a right that it, but, but you probably at first You first thing: are you go? Oh? No. I do want to expose. The weakness. Is I don't know thing and now its power and but most cases, human. These, I think for me for the first gonna three decades and like I spent way too much time in your head, looking at me through your eyes and then find a partial appropriately right to get. Europe needs a lot of energy markets, exhausting, wouldn't you say I want to see the one person or under again do that with right, so its sole. It's so much more easy. I don't know. And if you want donor, we either let's go find out, and if you want to find out, I guess it's not

by the way you still projecting into that person's head. Looking at you, you still actually don't know because a lot of the time you're not right or absolutely it's it's it's to the worst, fine stimulus, augmented Eagle, It's just our wave just trying to kid all the and maybe that's the, maybe that's part of it. In Gmos is like controlled trying to control its drinking. It's like everything, gets alcohol drugs, food violence jumping off trips. With None of material baggage, land softly. Look for something and it said fixed mindsets. Did you have what you did you to read it s- a pretty east, pretty recently re the red. It thing we're your answering all the questions people are asking gathering, I'm pretty I find it is great. To be honest, is a lousy memory. I just answer: things is as high as possible. That was gonna fun you, I think it's fun for people to. I mean it

inasmuch as the dark side of you know were our attention is being sucked all the time from computers and the one that can ensure thinking that, I think has happened is that Do you think it is spurred more conversations than necessarily would have happened twenty years ago? I think we have to make an effort to certain look around I've become moments ago. Less wax outcome. Was but this time last year and about the Hollywood hills. I step this summer front door, and it was this huge artic. Our city on the pole across the street, from you must remember, to have three feet: tall Lookin out, o my god, and these two women were coming up. The hill walk into her with their work winds in their ears and never playing on their phones, and I wanted to go a you. Gotta look up violent fuck, you you don't mean it was like the egg. Is there so much later made? Their joy is always a billboard. There were showed a frog news, a digital

in a real frog and has had put it put the device that? Yes, I like that I'd ice visit time and a place for everything, but I dont trusting the communication of everything being built down to a tweet. It has its place, but don't don't tell me that that is pure communication and that's all we need right. I'm trying to get my diet for phone down such and read a book yeah, there's something our galaxy happens when you take a book in your lawyers after to be told a story, the best of us we're still sitting around camp fires, we need the campfires. We need those moments of solitude. Need those moments together, sit around until stories to each other. You go and retreats ever know, equation anywhere. Kind of feel like I need the environment to dictate that I've been on retreat retreat. Twenty years twenty years like I spent enough, I can spend time on

yeah. What do you do like just in the course of a day like what is a regular day off? Look like for you, never golfing honest for hours for half hour that term reform of loving it at me, and I have a discipline. Gulf is wonderful because people will say things themselves that they would Fabius killed. Somebody for, say you some, you do a bad shouting call themselves things are you stupid, blah blah blah and they would smacks of jobs and they saw it it's one of those disciplines. For me. That teaches me However, an issue about myself now, that's a genetic is that's really interesting: Ai Weiwei work. I work the golf courses and I was in college and I myself worst side of people out of love and screaming incirlik, totally socially unacceptable behaviour. I like that. I like reading I'm canadian, I watch Marcie

and and Lady Avenue, an awful lot of reading off a lot of reading and kind of rear entry. Reading some of the stuff that I read before. Would you re read that you like. Brothers Gerasa at a Correia Prodi. One with a grin here are my favorite books of all time in the new translations from russian there, the different because their them less politically Correct because they were, they were messed up in the seventies in the sixties, and then translations are much so yes can tell a story, resigned that shit. And some some Dickens understand on my grandfather, Findley he was, I would keep user first, a war that was captured outside Paris. He was one of the old British can

call, your contemptibles. They spent five years in general, more camp, and near the Andes, an inveterate hospital. I used to go see Marie Choice Awaken taken to get me to bring bucks nice. I recognise some of us. You ve, read these before anyone and why are you re says I want to make sure I've got what I got when I go it's too late for new information and I catch myself. I'm at that stage. Now, where I'm going back and I'm was that several important book to me still imports can I get something outside of it. Fenimore covers drums longer mohawk, Sir,

take a look at different books that changed my path. As I went the road not taken I'm going back and want to know. Why does it still affect men and have a ringer truism today? So well, of course you have to get different stuff. You know at this point then, and at the same time I am. Writing am reading other stuff in writing, but the so you are writing stuff I'm running right now. Yes, are you gonna show anyone ever you gonna do stuff with an eye this just to add liked to do. Actually I was, I was up late last night, Khazars cartridges. There is cause the effort Some four March is lucky, and I and people of the House Ass, an old producer friend of mine that we're trying to stay something for about two years from now he's busy until next year, and I am off and I'm busy until next year. So so I can get my

Last night, I guess I'm one of my old stories you're looking at and its Gostar awfully wait around for the next two years, and let me polemic did something to you not a story idea, but just an idea for your life, and you can tell me to fuck off. You probably have a best friend rights can best friend was got best friend. Ok, if you, if you think about it, every once in a while, invite him over just talk and recorded conversations and when you get ahead for them. Just give me your kids, because hearing. You talk as if we're being you know, you may not always talk to communicate this way, with your kids somebody, with my I was lucky enough to do with my dad just like have a conversation and I'm so glad I did because it basically it will forever some the idea that I will never stop speaking his name, so I think it could be a variant

in vain, because you have a lot of really great points of view on things, and I hope you know- maybe maybe general daughter, although its average is she's, pretty cool and smart may not be a place to food, understand and absorb the person that you are. I think, maybe just if you, about it record. Some conversations with friends just talking about about start embarrassed You know it's interesting goes. My father came home a renewed from work, five, thirty and it was absolutely necessary to sit down to dinner and that little Of course, all the five kids who whoever was it was always more than

and we were allowed to talk about anything at the kitchen tables lines of a civil and the kitchen table became something that will you are allowed to do anything and Santa things longitude respect. We have tried to keep that in our house. Yogi sit down to dinner and a dinner your love to talk about anything, nobody trumps. Anyone at the kitchen deployed, you do apply me I've and I don't have any authority myself. I can try it bad, not tough face and my daughter go. What is that supposed to stop me from talking rights? I have the line for the bathroom in my house. I dont get firstly, and so that kind of freedoms.

Happened, Lattimer House and causes avenues. Communication suffer got so, but God taking a conversation. I would be so hard to get over the presumptuous of not really because you ve just forget where you do look at you do for a living. You shouldn't from my forget like talking to people, but I, but I think, if you you know, and even if its clunky the first set couple at times. You know this just do it until it's not cuz, you forget its there. You'll just start talking conversing and then or even if you start talking about the fact that a recording that reveal something about it, I don't know I just I just think. I just think that I am I right do right. Right a little bit. I mean I right on my shows, but it's not like I'm not, and I wrote a book once but I it's- I don't wanna write. Anything was a burglar. Now was there was a nonfiction book about basically, focusing in getting shit

It was. It was like by almost like a come bits of output but sort of joy. Can we really accomplish authority in your, like thirty forty to forty two, so electrical yeah we're just because I fucked up my twenties. I still don't know everything, but I know a lot more than I did when I was now and now I would say that the recent making the same mistakes. When I was in my twenties, I'm making new and innovative mistakes so remember them at least I remember them now, but please you can learn from them to when your clear, headed, if you're willing, if you want you should but this movie. That you're you mean I still want. But all the earlier, but go ahead and plug it in I'm by easy. As you probably know, I don't do this. I don't come back I know it with my work- I d misuse of a girl and costume, and I really this film. I, like the guys, have made it the vicious brothers. I like the lead actress in it. I think she's absolutely

she's one of the best be were work with a long time. She's really really good and I think it's worth saying I really do it's well written only the two guys took out a gender and pushed it to its absolute limits and right to the point of almost being tightened chicken places and and today, where things are constantly being rushed, and you don't always get your money where three figure at a european monies worthless and that's why I'm out here. I think you should see the so screw my performance. Take a look at the whole thing is a can as a complete thing, if you guys seen interstellar yet I haven't seen her yet because I've been working, I sought to setting apprenti overnight and his wonderful. So you like the good I like a day. What was interesting is talking about these things happen. We see movies, we you may do you have to go sit down, the formalization of taking somebody with you pay the money Sidney. The seat there's these are

it's your listing thing about that than the lights were down like among the window opens, and you watch and missed my daughter, the fifty or give meaning and ask me stuff in agony and because you knew the science was correct in the film in order together took over from fourth Carl Sagan. For you to say now the Miller S eyes- and he said in a budget exercise- is good and this film another time The film. The Sciences is good at all possible, but we're doing this and as the near the ETA filling the scheme of another interview today. So it's not exclusive, but I realise that at the end of it. Get in the film we got up an eminent crozier running that I was round her age. When I saw two thousand oh wow and I got so should not. I looked at her and she was just full of life. After the the fifty on our down. I was using the washerwoman, there was a huge beside us and remedy woman. I came out of it,

from, and I watched her because she was leaning as well with her water, and she was absolutely totally in the moment she was just so you could see a charged is be- were wrong. Buying Skype, good, looking for she's fifteen lots of a twenty seven and delicate brick shadows but about a very smart, very town and replace it should have guitar, and but I was looking at her and I was frightened and excited at the same time, looking at it, because I've had some lucky son of a bitch Romania couple we're gonna, get to know her. Yes, and then she saw and she just do it it was like an I got to that crawl reef olden time moment that I had with my dad and she got it, and I didn't pointed out today, I was the same ages, United. Let that happen that serves the finder yeah, if she s kids yeah, but it was like

We hear that moment of you know where you're still young enough that explain end by that's really using so she still young enough that she's having these new sort of universe, expanding experiences, but then It gets harder and harder the older you get, but you got that moment. Watching her have that moment and being taken back to when you had that move in it, it's like that is done in a space of your life, it's going back again like us Looking at other novels, I read and here, I am trying to re farm on fracturing my life but You rightly said that the Euro remain racking around the judge, but you know what I'm saying I'm trying to. Unlike my granted, maybe a little too late to be trying to get new stuff in here may they should really take a look at one of our

God, what's gonna, take a look at what you ve already got, but I don't think it's too late to cram new stuff in each snails. Escargot I'm gonna sell me now I will never. I will never eat a snail, let's cut yeah council about notes cedars, but Well, this we're about an hour that was about an hour, and I was like those prepayments. It was amazing, you're, fucking, great gas. Does we spent testing and I'm not- It's that I'm not surprised, but I'm just happy because I didn't know I mean opposition from your work, like seem like a set of seem almost all of the thing you ve done and I am a fan of it, and so could a nerd it out on you about that, but

video laced with shovels would have been at the Grubs javelins Elizabeth Taylor, but but, but Are you read it a man like? Oh my god, I really want to talk to that. I really really want of really actually wanted to get to know you and you did. You did not disappoint our. Thank you. It's fucking, amazing. So, thank you so much man and I hope I get a chance to catch up with you again at some point and maybe hang out and have a coffee extraterrestrial its anyone. It's out there and you guys go see it. It's it's worth the admission. It's it's kind of a communal kind of experience to it's kind of fun. It's fun touching film is the same as they. What is interstellar neither moment serve their feelings and remember when we saw Sir Tristram heroism interstellar. I remember that remember the sea, I met you, I mean it's not some three years ago. I never can receive all the films and my daughter combining etiquette.

Can we see Jumanji or can we should is wasted as yet, but for every foam? Do you want to see you? I'm gonna have a from the EU. To see what she might you gotta watch village of the damned, the first one if you're gonna watch. This one than you gotta watch the hunting of hills nice in other things, go and give senior moments. For my childhood, I think we're the story, the visuals and the acting all work, and it's always wonderful to watch him when they're watching not to do much is a bad picture, but they running to get chips. They don't miss anything and nobody leaves the room. Black and white is Julie. Harris is Russ, Tamblyn and there's. No special effects is one door that bends and they all said they go home, That's why I love what story time. That's what I love about visual started time is the ability to give everyone a common experience, and I was there when you remember: that's one of beautiful things will fail

well listen. Here's to here's the not only treasure in the process as things happen and appreciating the moments that you already have, but also to many more new experiences, which I know you will have you just down your hasn't software. Can briefly our me like you they're, your life is full of new experiences in its can enter. I dont know what studio Hollywood center. I know, but you say I'll return. I think it's another name is that its Hollywood centre now years ago, this displacement around since, like nineteen nineteen Johnny leave, I begged and I was doing a radio interview on the phone when we drove in sorting out to see the gate, because I cannot recognise I'm sure, there's no way you do shut up here before you are not showing us and if you ground. You'll, see like you know, they should. I love Lucy on the stage we should our show on this burns and Alan Laurel, immoral. I showed you know I won't Arusha yet I do couple of ETA So it's so we shoot your issue. We ve been shooting on this lot for about a year and its there's a lot of it. It's one

lots where you kind of you wish that one day is logs, fix it. The next day you could just start ripping the walls open to see like what's stashed in here like or under the ground. There must be amazing stuff hidden in this place somewhere out of Jello in this place, just walked through the second pleasant residue Michael outside. It was a pleasure. Thank you burrito everyone now, leaving noticed com?