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So you tell I want to know about your stopping drink, I'm sure you ve covered in other places, but I'm here I'm very interested in well. One day I decided that I drink too much, so I stopped litter and need to stopped. While I stopped yeah, I'm well truthfully, it had been sort of. I guess for the last few years of it, there was something in the back of my head. There was like you know: you'll probably have to not do this anymore someday like I was I was aware that it was in. I would sort of joke like how he had the same. Really drinkin, alot or I would I would wake up in the morning hungover and then catch myself in the mirror drinking a beer. So I could level out and fall back asleep and then just kind of laughing like buddy. This is really not going to you got. It is not a good long term plan to do like that identity of the drunken lothario I did for a while, because it's fun it's

fun when you're late one, it's fun in your twenties disorder. Be that guy, like a drink more than anybody. I find it's I'm a party of a mobile party and then at a certain point when you really, You don't have any money and no job prospects in your fatter than you were a few years ago and people are weird to you and then you start to realize it's you and not them, then you know and what what really kind of did it was. I was dating this girl named Andrey Savage Adjusted. I mean they do the nine and Andrea inner savages fuckin whoever's is great. I in addition, some time she's, great she's, really funny and she said we ve been dating for little over a year and she was like look, I'm not saying you have to quit drinking. But saying, there's a reason that you're doing it and you should really probably figure out why that is, and so I said, fine reason was fucking love departing out of my face. I laid eyes wandered into I've. Already number one phone number to see: number one number three forever:

basin into my bar. So I started I started seeing a therapist who was this woman? That was, I started seeing her. She was recommended me, my move, moons apple, recommended or said achieving she's, a friend of mine, she's, really great, and it was this woman who had been on us in our name: PAMELA Stevenson, oh yeah and PAMELA marriageable economy, and so I was like I Amelia was like. I have to see this woman. She has a fancy as a fan, as how many best first, the first session was just to all talking about Jack. Your address, juniors Gunnar, does not reject my body and that one, yes, she played his wife. She was she in chocolate, babies. She was in chocolate, babies back, she played Angelique, Jackie's, wife, yea, and she played Joan Collins and shoot ITALY's

ass. She was in history, the rope are one and so on, and so like, oh, not only. She a comic she's married to a comic she's gonna understand how my brain works. When you know it's interesting, if I can do is becoming a therapist, is the only thing that, when you quit doing comedy people, don't judge you for your, not a failure of you do anything else. You fail com because you didn't keep doing out if you go into therapy. It's like me to forget, WWW graduated at their personnel used to be a comic. Yet it was, it was great, was just the out I'll be like what was when you weren't. You are performing with the tears I felt workers were a lot of what you're doing on stage as a form of can be a form of therapy, depending on what wonder what kind of style you have and so I'd sight, seeing this woman for a while.

And then finally, you know one day I showed up and I was I guess I get you never. You don't realize that when you're doing it that you smell and you look bad and so she just said she disliked mean she goes, I mean it was that it was the border, the real its moments that I've ever had. She disliked mean chagos in that it wasn't, it wasn't therapy, but wasn't there really tell me what you she looked at me? She goes you, you look terrible. What are you doing? You need to stop this right now you needed to go to rehab to today. If you can, but this is not. This is just not good and I didn't have the presence of mind I was like. Oh, I thought I looked oak. I just didn't know, and I was just at the right time, my brain when oh yeah, I guess I could cause I hadn't. I hadn't said Friday, I'm gonna quit it's gonna, be Friday, all right! Ok, next right,

it was just in a moment. She said you shouldn't do this anymore and I was like, I think, you're right. I think I should just not do this anymore, and so that was that was it. I stopped ice after I never drink again after you, gotta rehab. Whenever I try to go to rehab, but there is no, no, no goddamn it that is not everything is in fact an episode of madmen. I know you're not getting any points for that. I give you boys Are you afraid of anyone? You gave it its. I that the same value here they have and I gotta do, join and about not drinking can do that. Exit quietly and think about Europe. Yeah I try to go to. We have, but the m the insurance took twenty. The insurance actually was. My rehab insurance took a couple days right deal with the rehab facility, and so by the time I had been like three or four days, and I was like. I think this was the three or four days how

supposed to be rehab, I didn't drink. So I think I just dont need to go to rehab analyze. It did you do anything else and in those three days pie was it like fuckin, in voting no way with hearing up fur rehab. I know somebody that got baby. They were quitting like drugs and shit, and she said that when she was kicking, she thought she was gonna think herself to death

while such a great description of like mania, an obsession but also a reason why a lot of people will take substances to dislike quiet, the quiet, the chatter and dumb. Yet that point it was still like. Oh I don't know if I'm gonna do this, I'm just kind of experimenting will is to see how long I can not do it, and I went to a couple a meetings in and then I talked to a couple. I talked to guys like Gregg Barrington yeah. You know who were very supportive and I was like you know, I think of it, and I think I'm gonna give this a shot and then that where was it and then I started to feel better pretty quickly, which was motivating too to stop. You know too just keep keep going with you exercise or anything. I didn't start exercise.

Until two thousand five, but I dropped of tunnel wait like WWW a month now, within a month six weeks I mean a lot a lot. You murmured a joke that you had when when Andrea was leaving, you remember the joke, he said onstage, no, it was its gas, so my girlfriend was leaving. She had her bad packs bag. Peck backpack Magna back, but she was rate ago and then she said goodbye to me and then she He said goodbye, the dog start crying and then you said you're going to cry when you say goodbye. The dog you're not going to cry when you say goodbye to me and then she said, What date doesn't go home wasted every night, oh wow, I said then, on stage at the broker. Oh my gosh goddamned broker broke. I can't believe that job, what I don't want, that was a good joke. I think that was just a oh, no blue, the roof and boisterous. She

shove curse, you can argue with the crowd, but it is a hot. They know what they want. I tell you forgot about that. She yeah quit drinking and then a day later we broke up and out- and I was like cabinet quit drinking issues like yeah, but you kind of salted the earth like it was at that point. She had just had an up and she was right and I don't want to blame her. What's Craig she's married and has kids gashes in raising yeah, never out of Urim and haven't where you like dating a girl, I need the you break up and then she goes on. Gets men have kids in Lhasa, my ex girlfriends, except for JANET, have kids, I think, is as far as I know, all of them now have kids. I don't find it weird. I don't find its scale like I could we may I just find it like. Oh, like Euro area, Bertha or them or they met. You know they just met the guy that they knew no jail or you are an obstruction to the best part of her life.

Everyone's? Having? I don't know you make jokes, but I have felt that way in the past. I definitely felt that line about like you do the break up of like I'm saving you from something worse, while on some level this kind of realizing. I go yeah. I'm deterred in the punch ball. That is, you know like is keeping that is potentially crazy. Parts of the world outside dragon was just a sparkling apple juice, which makes gross efforts that it works. If someone sheets and applied, we had a sober party yeah. It's you have, then maybe we're going problem. They don't have an excuse. I wish Stuart is working fine. I wish you had an excuse, our ally. And then and then it's been that's almost ten years. I think it's been over ten years now and then there were periods in the beginning where it was tough because the first year you quit your not used to dealing with emotions, and so it's it's almost like it's almost like gaining a new sense that you're not your hearing. That, for the first time

Were you just not accustomed to feeling of things so things come in you like? How do I do? I just have to let it yeah you know and then once you get comfortable with that than its then you're. Ok, why do you ask I cause? I don't know the store? I just heard You could drinking, and I heard I dont know that I've never heard early great story. There always pretty interesting it yet it just. It was so they d been building for a long time and it was so part of my identity, and I am now I kind of there's a thing where some people think like I have to get higher. I have to drink to be funny on stage in, but I had found that I would stand on stage and not in my mind would be blank, and so we near the end of it. So I just like I don't know- I think- maybe that's just something I tell myself so I dont have to quit drinking right and then, of course, after I quit it was the opposite which was might

got better. Do you? Ok, here's! My other line of questioning, which is, I was talking to motion cancer, who was on admin at the other night, we're talking about how good you are at that job, o in particular an how good you are just in general, and I'm wondering is that do. Is that, like a practice thing for you, ve always been a good host? That's what I'm like Do you think it's a personality thing? Do you think it's a metabolism thing you think is like an easy thing. What do you think it is? Well, I dont will first type they really that's very Sweden. I appreciate that, as we work is. What will go on to talk about is how we met when you writing on but they re learning. The needs are here for their. We were, then, what then, what will deter bank victory? media, that a whole areas is like a giant fucking mega mall is

yeah? I want one is: what happened in that place that will that studio still there, but a crock, as are all our nervous stute, our nervous state studio is right next to empire, ok, good, and so now there's this massive there's like a low. Whose, unlike our best, buy and like where it is rather like the Burbank victory and what an m a victory in and Burbank Boulevard Fickle, Grant Burbank Boulevard near that and then like right by the five yeah empire. Avenue was its empire studios it still there, but I dont know I I I I I don't know. I honestly don't know I think to be a host. You have to be a little bit of a control freak, but not so much that you completely sir I've suck the Mena like try to rip control away from everyone right you just kind of have to it's. Just like friendly traffic. Capping right, I don't know, I guess

you think. Do you find yourself being like that? Obstinate? Not really I mean I don't I don't go into a Roman. I might okay, you were alike at a party. Are you like No, actually pretty I mean if I, if I know people I'll be just like any other comic and like the riff pile, but actually a parties, I'm I'm pretty quiet. I don't like to draw attention You should live on until he loosened all that stuff. Obviate you're already you're gonna love with your right after people. I would actually like you hear the vigorous. You won't feel a thing It's been tat if I remember anything great whose thirsty Andrea wants to come back Andrea, wants to leave her husband and come and be with you. What is this the burned, but you and I

weird version of the bird really give revising Eddie Vevey like really personal heckler. Why do you dream about red part, but yeah? I'm. I met you on single nineteen. Ninety four five. It with ninety five not arrive yeah, we did the pilot at Vienna. Ninety four in the sugar picked up and ninety five. I was on the pilot as well. Gray out of that was that was August of ninety four and ninety five. We did the spring break episode that they have a sou. Why was now I'm gonna have assumed remarriage your under age. I you're, like nineteen or town who I was very young, I might have ya- was under it, but you are always I mean it was obvious to me and you can tell when you meet people like gum, others see the guy's a little extra

money for his age, he's funny or the outbreak is AIDS, like you had that you had that comedy thing, but it, but there was also a kind of a cockiness with it as well yeah, because you know you knew I felt like you knew that you were funnier than than everyone. I also very insecure, you think so. Well, it secretly but I had read. Birds were attacked me yeah. I never thought I mean I was like happy to be doing stuff, but but it showbiz, like you know, gets it the humble Zeb soon enough, over and over and any cocking. It's like slow down. The idea had set out yeah. That's why I love when people like we ve been doing like when people are talking about showbiz. I wanna, like I've, been tellin us for twenty minutes

no idea how fucking long in a very long time to have that have experienced doing this very weird thing: that's not that applicable to any other yeah profession, but also the cycles of it is what I find like. Ah Hill ill he'll be gone. That's why that's why? It's that's why it's good to have success later on, so that yeah Do you know when I went with singled out? I'm sure I was the same way I I was. I was pretty insecure on that show because I just didn't really. I don't know I wasn't fully comfortable. I had my little corner of the show, but still the rest of it was just frat guys and there were two girls again. You know, and- and I was the whole thing was- was fun I still yeah, I mean I still was a little like weird. I was really pushy too I'm every year,

may was like doing a joke and then you'd like lean lenient, unlike that was originally in ninety ninety five, but they were hook with believe it was believed it was if someone else did Oh, it was your way of catalogue someone's gotta Joe away. So as they say it says that just say they jogged really put me on the spot here, Chris I hadn't thought about, because he's really I, by early in any sort of hunger area, gonna blow you were when they sit when they start the joke. You start out you anyway tonight. Why should I be like like a little Lena. As if it was very, but I was the I was very great, I am then I left to right for flying at unequal.

Did you really idea lever for the ILO for all at that's fantastic and another for Keenan and kill all the time you worked with Dan you're, too Tangier Dan Schneider? Who only at the only have been to a gun range of when the damn Schneider I've seen em. I haven't seen him in seventeen sixty seven, I saw Dan like a year ago we had lunch, datura yeah every couple years would get together and have lunch. It's crazy how you can live like brawl. If you do that, like Robert Schuman thing of like the people passing yeah like how many times I probably driven pass them or whatever, like all the feeble you'll, never see that because this, because what we intend to do in our lives is create this

have a trail and we just go to the same five places. Yeah here home that place home there for dinner home, and it's very rare. I mean at least for me. I dont deviate a lot from that from those patterns, and so I it's very unlikely five run into people that don't live on their on that yeah yeah, the I dont I'd. Never, but in fact, when I live in New York, I lived in midtown. I didn't want to bump into Paypal and I never did I and a one per I bumped into Gregg Geraldo the day he got a rehab, so that was the only person. That's how bad it had to be. For you to bump enemy How is Rhode Island to becoming with the that's how off the year cycle yet about so you will. What were you what we like in high go. I was probably like the same, but brothers comedian. So I used to go to me or another time and hang out and clubs. So I knew

while those like, I knew a tell and he's going to jump we're not gonna, Romano in high school and shit and an end like so I was of that we're that's why when I was able to like, then I worked the door in New York. Club, and then, when I moved out here, I was sort of like a lot of that. When you're that age, a lot of it's sort of borrowed like a lot of your sort of like voice yeah is borrowed, of course. Is this your personality and social scourge is yeah you're forming your absorbing in your but boy? That's that's so. Fuckin amazing cause for people like four. For me, the absorbing comedy was absorbing just the every comedy special every album, yeah absorbing all of the a list polished material sets but to actually absorb yeah Ross What real lay out like a truly is now already eyes. I used to do a thing in high school of my friends where, if somebody said something there is like it was in my group, a friendly, be like by wrote that

They were like. No. I wrote that these guys are now working like insurance, ensure wherefore ever who wrote what what like car bit January like dry having to go drink bit, but there are now. I didn't started here think about things. I never did stated that when I was when I was working on the shows when people always go like you seem like Morbo. Like you're, more than a writer. Their return like you're, pretty annoying for those very wider writers tend to have more like deep herself, EFTA and, Our heads not down that hunched over a good posture was wrong. I didn't sergeant Zahm too, like six years ago, as I never. I did a little the dervish Peltzer I was just around it. I should have been doing it could go to the laugh, Andrea with thy mind to hang out with. Pale and I would say more and I know what are these guys and I was right now you just go ahead. I don't need the attention and then finally was it. You know

gas turns out either totally non interact may need a worse than its building up all these areas, if you get started, would guarantee high school and I ve been by girl of stealing my broth digiorgio spi older you that idea, just I guess I should start sooner. I should have, as I have the ideas and I started pretty I still have that if I should have gone, I can assure you of that after he answers. I hear I did what then it's like. So what should I not done ship, You don't have a like. Do you think I was arranged. I figured what had changed the space time it in your speech Are they gonna worry on nervously? Oh, it's! It's true, Yamaha nervously right, it's you

because he's right of any anything, a change that will end, and this is why, how I will carry you back as I didn't start do as much as I had been obsessive comedy. My whole life single out came along, and so I didn't feel is pressing need two legs to em. To judge jump into stand, even though I wanted to do it. It still scared of yes Avenue did a little bit having in college ass. I was in a cloth, a group and we would do stand up in the dorms, every mean every quarter zone and I've gotta die. Branched ended a couple of the right when the alternative, like Don Cabaret scene, was yeah starting to boom a little bit but dumb. But I also when I look back, I think at the time that I started doing comedy if I had really pursued stand up right out like if I left college go.

Stand up. I feel like I would have turned out to be a much different comic like I really needed all of the influence of the scene that I fell into to become like I couldn't just been like a you know, like a road comic, do in road gags. I should say I didn't want around eighteen once when I was twenty three, was horrible and I'm pretty sure Louis and Sarah were there in the room. They were both fight in your and twenty three good and then I did a little bit when I was like twenty nine and then I would like to add its them. One way to do it and I started again when I was like thirty three thirty four. I was twenty seven when I started doing when I, when I really said I M really gonna finally pursue this. I'm

we're gonna. Finally, this I need I really really need to do it ended people like thank you were that tv guide them a lot of people. Did you know people like you know people like me be like what are you fucking doing yeah. I remember me not surprising. I mean what people didn't. What most people didn't know about me was that I bet always wanted to yet and up, and it wasn't like it. I think outwardly it sort of like all that tv guy wants to try stand up because he thinks it's easy yeah. Knowing that I was, you know, had seen every comedy special yeah. That was my obsession, my real real obsession and dumb. So by the time you know by the time, I was ready to start it. I had singled out come and gone, and so I was a guy who had been on a popular tv show, but I you know, did you want to make any money? Other no single, loud ya, know. Never

No not even later, no no, no cause there were no residuals or and rang, and you couldn't get here like episodic, you couldn't get bumped, I mean I did get a bump, but it wasn't enough to you know, and I couldn't do anything else, and so I guess it. You know. I think it probably worked out too maybe like I would, come on. I like from heavy like forty Grand a year sailing I get was not. It was it. It was. I would always say like. Oh it's, it's a good for a regular job. What it's it's beautiful, it's very its way way way: Logo effort for a tv job. So it was enough to keep me work. You know like surviving without revenant, if enough, to give it a blue through that came to keep the tab go in there, you know. So it was. You know it was. I there wasn't any left over. It was just enough to live in an inch

Angela speedier so the people. You know what I followed by now that I do stand up all the time is when I know somebody that's around and they don't do stand up and then they start. It's like Fuck you, you were in a wire that I set it out well and I would see other governments say like oh this person and then after having done it for a little while I would see people can it give that treatment to other people coming in and I would always say: let them try it because it's fuckin hard enough and if their, if it's not in their sole they're, not gonna, keep doing it yeah. So let them fall in their face a bunch and if they, meant to do this. They keep doing it at that, but the truth of the matter is most people are like that. Although this is not for me and I wondered, if I got remember, I had met Morgan Murphy. I went to a party and I met her and she, oh I overheard Saint. She was doing stand up on us all. Say something. I've always wanted to do

Oh yeah, I would I've done a show with Ike panels. What is as in two thousand and two and shoes I had. I showed panels what these guys. I've only got as it is a good, that's crazy and talk too much about it that night and then the next time I saw you I was I get we were, I saw an open MIKE and she can't do it. I know feeling that she had were we to say. Oh yeah, now I know it's a weird. They were like, because people did it to me from my gloves: doorman and Louis marriage ceremony, that always has room is dormant. There's like our mother fucker. What it's hard to. Even people have worked like at clubs that start doing it and they become good. It's possible not to see them as a boy. I should have been a big, crazy red, wig, yeah yeah. It's it's not feel it is everyone's gonna always you know, and that's it we're thing about starting really young in a sea where you're in front of everybody. You're gonna be around with the rest of your career as everything,

see you in nineteen trying to do a bit and fucking it up. And then, though, like the next five years later, you might have gotten really good, but the Billy you. I saw it at once the Falcons another and our people when people guy dude you're. So much better than us you could just say I'm good where you, don't have to catch. It is. What I am I realize was that now that your matters out well you know there. Are they gonna like it or not, but I'm not gonna stop doing it and I went back and and did you know I mean I would just I would I would do all the open MIKE's I could and then people be like. Why are you here you can go and work is only cause. I'm good enough. Yet any I noticed you can't go anywhere that people say to me till I worried. Oh, how I do, what what do you want, Do you got money so what language?

do as I allow the living room. The am I still supposed to dislike likes. You shut up designed to stand up use, then we're gonna watch a fuckin movie for the next. Yet, like you, we want to do it. You wanted to end its also, not it's a lot of its like misery. It's not like this, this life and not misery, but it's humiliating, certainly sure, and it's not like you go from no one. Just dives animals like great there were great from day well, it's all its very em, it's a vulnerable profession for people who are already in secure there, and so it's a strange. I mean it's essentially like getting naked on sage every night and then you know I mean I sort of like in it too. If stripper run, stage of people are like your tits. Are we yeah, you know you're vaginas strain and I'm sure that any new sort of feel that, like I'm exposed than I am not doing that and I'm not do

the thing I'm the other day of your coming from another? Like thing wizards did when I was gonna what you are doing as people joy, rejecting it. Oh yeah yeah appears really enjoy like now. I've had people say off thanks to me that I would never said elements like yeah yeah, I guess you can well. I really I was lucky in that. The open MIKE seen here that I fell into was really supportive and it was really nice and it was you know, with the scene that Robin Jones and Van Sanders- and that was a zack- was a part of that very often ACCA, revamp, furred and peseta and gotten and all these guys would there was it was. It was a really I felt like we were all kind of similarly minded people and they were really Sweden cool, and so I I didn't really feel it was not. It wasn't what I think of. As you know

like a real competitive in the sense of leg, it would have been out when I say you know, like me, no more Marin, that's when I would go back east there is like New York. Comics arise a little less air the debate on her. Does what am I gonna get and save your money? Ok, that's just working trial. Like it's not like I'm getting a massage I'm trying to stand out. Man is not like an easy thing like are you yet we are worried about this one guy that I just met eyelids. What's funny about that, is that it with you? I mean at least with me. I could understand people like your television knows. Why are you doing since but you wrote with Chapelle there having like Euro four Chapin yeah, so you, obviously it's not like you are doing something not On the other hand, I behold a wholly different sized prettier

I do not believe that it is worth saying the words that India and a lot of instances yeah yeah, but they just people have resentments. How did so? How did you? How did you fall in with Dave and how did it and who had been friends before I met you when I lived in New York is like the only we were both I was going to DORA. I was gonna away from school were in that order, comedy club. Then the only other young guy was J, Morn Chapelle and I was roommates with J, not a good roommate. Alice Milan- oh, my heart goes out to you and I mean Davis, gonna, hit it off and and then lives like ninety two and then I was when should out here, and it was I ain't, he was doing shit man and then I wrote a script that got to this guide Bob Simons, who would produce light? same as movies, and I had a meeting with him the script my script

good, but I had a meeting that I've fucking funny in the meeting. Just What does he know when you're like alive decide gonna hot hand right now, since, where those like a really operate, in time to be really voting and then Chapelle went in like a week later on unrelated business and he's in there Do you have any ideas and he's like yeah, I'm right and weed movie? So like what do you? What do you talk, These are gay with a buddy Manila Human needs you ve, never heard of trust. You ever each me in there are like it when they gave me a brand new. We not I was gonna. Do this Sylvan Chapelle calls me, Ngos, hey man. If anyone from universal accounts tell him we're right, no weed We never talk about right away. I mean I'd like fucking ever so then life than universal gone, I was like Arena Wade movie. They like

Can you come, and I was like when one alone we add a month that come up with a movie. We took the for thirty days, start day- twenty nine and outlined it at the Mondrian the night before it pigeon hit a room of the Mondrian. I remember like the sky bar just open services like this Poland we're like now, we can't go down there. We have to add that we outline have begged and then the next day we pitched it and it was. And then it was fuckin. Spinning variety covers epidemics like it. We celebrate and valiant we sold it in March and we were shooting in July, and people cannot go on like this. Never have a bigger. This never happens. We're like we'll see about that. This has not been a couple. Twenty three year old, we can ride. We outlined this thing in her sleep. Hard, vulgarly Tugela now and then and then the moon.

He got more because we just didn't know how to powder like control shit, literally didn't, and now, whenever somebody gets a movie that, like asthma, gully directing movies, it's yours, in a Jones in the movie is the giant ball and you have to have your hand on the ball before it starts Rollin, because if you don't it's chasing, and that's what I'm an awesome. We just didn't know know literally nothing about the movie was what we thought. The creepiest creepy, as part, was mean they walked on set in Toronto and bring some set any like like like a couple more, it gets here like lock nominees, my biggest society Somerset, nope it was just a matter of managing the misery it was. It was

it's just a weird thing and then you know, and then we Cotta had beef after that not be. It was difficult to think of like we had a miscarriage. If I win, parents lose a child. These jets of oars aloud We got divorced and then and then I wrote a couple movies just on my own. And then like sold them, and I lived in New York and have a career in and then and then he then we sort of God warmed up to each other again and then it was like hey. We should elect Playboy after dark and then they became Shell show an m, and that was like a whole mother. That was aunt. That was a complete reaction to have it in terms of like. Oh, no, every Para pants will go through it. Like an that's. Why, like when people say first that we rode at all our selves like we would take outside pitches, brine hugger had a bunch of good pitches, crawl,

all and were Bigley, I actually pitch the Nigger family sketch, which was like a classic with a picture different way, but I didn't know I rule. I knew crawl little bit and Anne, but that was a action to we right on our selves. Chapelle told count in that kind of us who european show with because Bunny my because anybody else use and kind of US dotted and I were like net- we got this and then so we ve just fuckin control everything and which is great, but it's really exhausting. Oh it's. It's a mean it's in its almost impossible to come to do everything ass young sittin on every, because you can't you just year. You only have so much brain energy now and you have to really focus on what not having to just like ATLAS gavel, putting their

now we have the tools were able to do it to appoint like we were able to do it and it was like it was unbelief. I wouldn't sleep for days literally for days. I would just have to echoes finish, shooting and then we'd have a taping we'd finnish shooting, unlike its like a fuckin. Friday, and then the next Wednesday would be like a taping so I would be happy to let now we do it in blocks. Ok, so we do like three opposite at a time. So then it was like we'd shoots, fuckin, eight, nine sketches and then and then it was up to me to added them and get them to tat. It was really like Brown,

cast news had just like here's. The tape run it up. So you really really understand why Lui wants to take a year on the fuck. I mean the unlike. Unbelievably so like to the point where it was so hard should have over you remind me of historic recently where I done a cut of Rick James. I was like the first thing I was allowed to direct a nominally and I'd done a cut of it and but I just Couldn'T- I didn't have time to it- was like not going to be for a later up. It was a blessing to air for a while. So I just wanted to see if any of it worked and it was like a cut of it and it was doing okay an intermodal examining like you couldn't and an hour ago. I would do it, I'm sorry, man,

another example is the most market alone, my party, and that they can get over it. For me, like I, have lived in four days. Are you doing this, but that was the whole thing, so, even when it got popular it was it was. I would hear about it way more than I would experience it like. I didn't like. I would here like I was I was at the virgin. I remembered the thing that did it some of the gaps in LAS Vegas at a crap, stable and somebody said, I'm Rick, James Bitch and I was my first thought was like. Why would anyone say that was it Rick James that yeah I was I let it because he was alive that it was like. I literally felt like. Why would anyone say it that wasn't there were regimes and men and I'm still not sure, know, and then the ads shit like that we're at hurt. I hear about it like

on the outside, but I'd never like. I never got blade from it. I, like I, was just busy day when it did would so what was that was your experience. What was his experience? His experience was, I think, similar, but he was getting in dated with Hollywood offers like he was getting inundated with, like literally anything you want to do like, and so he would like. He hears a good example like maybe the toward the end of the second season we

two. We went to any Murphy's house that in and of itself for conversion, but that's the holster knows that we met anywhere else and at this the dismal using words we didn't know we're going to do a third season and Eddy said he goes hey. Why don't we should you, like? A sketch movie, he's a day when I can bear it and you got me all day- can write a million directed and that day, my age had told me. No one was gonna harm, as director cuz, they were just like. And then I got down if I M very Jane all the shipment of his eye out. No yet, but it was prior to that was like it was Dave, was getting which Fine, I don't you know I mean I just wasn't a tune to like I was too busy to. In any other thing, is you get these scripts? You get like piles ascription go like superbly

literally either a pile ascribes? It's like blades glory super bear. Was it over? You did, though, the goods the good yet bladed, but there's just piles of injustice and that's what I like more. That seems as good as any of em here, but the end you no like our job, is calmer. I dont really. I don't live out here so I'd here, like this guy just put down fucking this guy. See corral, we oughta be like monologue so you are like one of whenever you Eddie Murphy thing whenever the anymore Melvin Never we ended up not doing the doing that, although Eddie Murphy had a fuckin hilarious idea for a sketch, which is he we who's talking about he's like you know how their they. These like made for tv movies and it's always like a guy murdering prostitutes. He is one of the What about a guy murdering pimps system

fuck it and then Chapelle had a line which is a pimp, goes to the police station says how many pimps must die before people do suffer. But like so so there was. It was always like. It was hard to know what the fuck was going on, but he was getting inundated with, like every literally every ask. Is it weirder scary at that point, when you sort of feel like a lot of your livelihood depends on this other guy? Well, that's the whole thing is like, so he he's getting all these offers. And then I think he and then people say like you and the old enemies like foot, Neil meaning like he wants. That's like this. This time it's his like he's been working his since he was a kid like. I wanted to show that it became a matter of like, though the attention thing makes it like

makes it like. He wants all the attention to himself. I would I was happy to work with him like. I was happy to like right, foreign whatever, but he just wanted to have his own stream of like attention and accolades, and that was for a problematic long term, but I don't blame him like I get it like. I get why he would want that, but, from my point of view of say, to this fund can be fuckin with Fuckin Robin the bank, like what the fuck do. I inanimate, but he wanted his own sort of. He didn't like the team aspect. Anything it was it was. It was really interesting. It was. It's always been interesting for me in this. Where to being in the business for so long? But then you know people, you know when you're young and other sudden there having like adult problems in their thing. It's like oh Dave, Chapelle, just flipped out their inner mewing neo like nail it. But what does

leaning in yeah. I what is like way what legitimate gravity? an opinion on autism thought about what yeah know it is weird it's a crazy, but but that's also the thing of like its partnerships, a hard man. I mean like overall, like it's just a hard. Jonas Gimme the deaths there. What do you look at what is going on here, but we make it work of this? Isn't a partnership so I'm gonna that's away! That's part of the fund the one by my partner would say that it wasn't kidding what they were also. You know the even if we ever get a little like prickly about stuff. It's almost always like our men. Are you ok, you like we're we're all such caretakers and we're all set?

yeah. I think. Maybe that's because were or were older and we're not like young and gambling labour, both thirty three. I mean at that point. It's more just a character thing words, not even it's like character, logical. It's like that and that's why the last Nine years has just been me like I well I, really rely on somebody yeah as like as a anything does it make you not trust. People are just that situation asian address by Paypal, I mean now I don't love. It makes me not trust people it may, I'm still. I'd still have to be in a good partnership. Like I love writing with people, it's fun, it's fun hanging out. It's fun! Fucking around. Like my handwriting alone, I know when I was eight like fishing by yourself. It's like, if you can go with somebody, just makes the misery that much more bearable. While I just feel like having another brain buzzing in the room, just activates, it just activate that egg there's a social thing like I like

On camera. Dave was really good. Reason. He's really good enriched James is cause. There were forty women there and there's just a weird thing of light performing for them, their yeah. If there's people around you will and- and I find that with writing- if you have someone around that. You want to impress that helps. So you don't pitched garbage right for you not like mad with ETA became a mutual appreciation. Yet you have to think you have to have a shared standard and then try to like not bring garbage to the table and when they bring something you like try to top it like, I was somebody diving day would have said

He and I were like thrill killers where he be like stab in agreeing to be like choppers fuck it have. You got any good I've, Travis, Chalmers head off or other like that, that I, like writing with people. But it's hard writing. It's just got that's the thing is like it's hard to know it's like how long do you need to know somebody before you know how they can react, sure and its lie. Don't know what the length of time, as we already know, how they're gonna on an emerald edge. I mean what are what I saw happen with that shown what I guess may have happened. Maybe you know- and you can correct me, but it sort of high, let I know you probably know, but I think you know when you're, when you're young comic, you know you can be supersaver and you can kind of a little invisible and you can still say whatever you want and then at a certain point you know as I go,

ones watching you now another giving you a lot of money. So there's a lot of pressure in there's a lotta and it better be good, and you better not do this and you ve been so I can see that the pressure would be would feel probably life's, not fun. It becomes like. I remember we did a sketch wherewith like there was a thing where was like black people should vote. It was like it was a game show of language about moguls like that's incorrect like about how to improve their lives in it, and then someone on CNN was like day chapels. It like you should vote right now we were, it was a goddamn comedies get and the thing is. It happened in Avonlea Chris Rock a little bit with the Niggers black people thing where it was It became not if it was a great bet that, because somebody white people sought, They thought I see our racism is justified and you can look. You can turn it

way, but that wasn't the point of that bit appointed bit was that your treating all why people as one type of one monolithic person, and there are deep, please differentiate writer and whereas people don't want to see new want so so became a thing of light and also there's a thing with when you're a black artists. If white people like it too much, then yes, it. You start thing, maybe you're doing some wrong yeah, because there, because you act like ice. I am assuming that its best, the widest person in the world talking about what it's like four

comics, but I mean I'm assuming that you know one white people are laughing really hard and, like he said that word he that's a man in it and then I imagine Dave must be like. I think people are not laughing for the right reason yet, but its but here's the thing there now, no one's all, there's no people that are always laughing for the right reason: you're gonna man, it's a matter of how much can you tolerate right of the wrong of like? I don't know it's it's dead nuanced and complicated and it's not possible. I think the only solution is to just ignore it. That's what my that was my to I mean, obviously, it's way easier for me to be like fucking, ignore it come on. We heard this yeah you're famous and I'm totally invisible log into, but but it was either. I was certainly it is encouraging, like just let a rip men like what are you so it became like one,

before he went. Africa began this thing of like what is what was the right type of scotch and what was the right. It does became this like weird game of light. Nuff everything was everything felt racist and it so just became like not fun like it was. I mean it's fun, it was fun like writing and she was still really funny, but its became like this weird game. A just became not. It was not fun in that regard whereby it it when you start parsing laughs our start going like how so

the percentage of people will be left for the right reason like a good example, as we were words after the blind white supremacist sketch some guy, some guy came up. One of the best sketch now is an awesome. It's fuckin awesome. Yet so some guy comes up. We were at a bar, Somethin's in Arizona arises and some light through yield. Dusty red mother fucker comes up because I like that, once gauge about guys lived his wife she's, a nigger lover, we're just like we're both what you took from that. MIKE Inexact data that today's yes and how to Dave respond. If we both this we're like so chilled by it, that it was just like so that have to fuck with your psyche. A little fox psyche just eats away Eddie, where you like. How do you do that,

shit in a way that I think Chris is backed off like he said nothing. He regrets things revival, but it was like he feels some remorse about it. He feels remorse about the way people responded to it and it it's fuckin, not fun you, not a man like and you, oh it's your architect, priors arteries like and I went to Africa and I'm never city and we're going to those who, like. Money. Tell me he said aloud stage more than where it really absolute as Greece there like, oh and it goes, and by the way Richard never made more money than after you said that oh yeah white people love that as soon as they heard that they were like sir, That is always like of richer story to and again. Why I kind of adore anymore reads: cause he never really fell into that trap of like what how

I am, I am how why am I in? How would it not how black and white but like eddies jokes, were never that racially. You know potent that kind. Wasn't his thing But even in other stuff, in in income and Erica, like you could make a case that the sexual chocolate scene is like making fun of black church and all the shit and it's like or you just going to, yeah. He says, he's just doing a ridiculous character. That's an amalgam! Yeah bunch. Eyes then swimming around and his hair, and then it's not really a grand statements. Anything it's like. Oh just this, this character like forget in a year or the Mr White's Gach worried, forgotten, put the white, make a bond and and humbly. That's like one of my eyes ass, a prayer favorites gather as it was when I realized white people give each other. For a moment ago, gear more sketch,

over. The other guy was what it was like, a guy that was talking about the differences people. In black people, he's like well, really turns out that lighter skin black people are smarter than darker skid black revel in those areas. There was a certain happy eyes like what the fuck you talk of emigrants like no, no, it's a proven fact. Just behind like just like your service supremacy over the guy. There was yet if that shows real edgy back then yeah yeah, like really like that Chevy Chace richer. Decades, richer prior era that movie oh yeah. He like that's true, that's like fact because he was with prior. Oh my god. It's a great sketch yeah, just the way they just keep on. Like digging before the end of each of the phrase. Was I in her eye prior apparently hated Chevy? Oh really, fucking hated his just like a visceral hatred, because if your baggage heavies like a country lifted

think light in which you don't realize you guy, and he is like that sort of bluff like fuckin, like that kind of, like superior smug point shorts a policy area that appear like the latch like, but fortunately he let them go any problems, the great. How is just the worst things here and about the submitted? I never heard no one ever said. You know this is really plenty the heavy settlements on the celtic, muted, yeah, there's just everyone just looks like they I mean. No one will really about a there's. Just always like that's where a little bit of PTSD near that's. Why I've heard have you heard the fuck you Travis through no harm and store will like he actually sit every one of the rapporteur, say fuck you dream of a well yeah that was like the bay. Two years ago, whatever like he had them, chant fuck you ve, traveled, the whole crew,

and he will have to go through with it was a whole. I heard the whole story was like about its whatever, but yeah penalties integrated. So yes, so so it's harder! It's a pain in it. It's just another. Pain in the ass responsibility. Black do have to bear that white comics never have to bear dislike. Am I the spokesmen? Chris Rock was the spokesmen for blind people for seven years there an day became spokes. Well, because people, you know, particularly with comedy bill, usually have room for like one or two comics to cattle. Eyes, no brains, logo, okay, this is the white comic that I know, and that is the right like I'm like that. I know with white guys there's so many sub categories, mere words blighted, there's one. Now it's Kevin ART but Kevin Political, but it's like there's just one, whereas would wipe it was like oh MAR John Stewart, Dana Tosh re Romano Fuckin, Jim gaff, again there

why? Why is? Why is already so unfair? Is it just? Is it a numbers thing, as I know, there's three of them like they don't know, I think cuz there's fourteen percent, so it's like there's more, I think, there's just white people have one they just like one guy or people in general. Maybe just have room in their brain for one person, but what about having so that they have room for a lot of white people? That's so it's like J Leno Jimmy Jimmy, we found Jimmy Camel Fuckin. Near show that since then you can all go out here. Yeah yeah, there's like I just at like slew of of an there's, also suit, not like there's one black voice, but in terms of like from like he was one of you they can't like they would know. There's shrink, Amabel and Dave Come of l anybody else. So much scoop Kemal up and just put him on a bigger. He was he's great fishes. Put him on a bigger put. I wish they would put him on a bigger platform.

Exactly? I mean effects acts as a start, this old channel at a time when people are really large able channels those rub move as a robot move, hate, half x x, you fucked up, you haven't spoken, an offer in a couple weeks. If I have a great pity, I have yes so so now it's coming back from its my own, like personal last twenty years has just been like trying to different, not differentiate myself but like just what can I do my wits why'd? You stand up so much and I'm doing a couple pilots and it's like figuring out. You know I spent a lot of time. I try to find somebody. It's like. I did pivot movie and it was like, maybe you Adam, and will want to be like one of the funny or die click or, like maybe I'll, be with Jordan, and I no one was I just didn't. It didn't happen And so now it's like because everybody got a click. Yet

whether and then I realized that pretty quickly when I was like my Sillam loan. So so now it's like just do shit on my own. I gotta continued. Train, direct, more movie? Now then allow me too. I mean they won't, let me, but although I wrote, I just wrote one that I have written a couple that I see that I will direct if they ever going to be even like, like a small scale, I just kind of going to try and do it on your own that at this point, what I've realized. It's like you, you have to make the people it's a real pass, fail thing. It's like a movie has to be fucking perfect, for people to like movies are so even just. Getting it's like. No, you have forty eight hours, this shit to and work, and you gotta pick the right star in the right story and you better get lucky any better. Have great marketing

an analytical riot whose any better be the right month and you better not open against half baked opening its titanic, but that's a bad example that I live bait like became of called here. The guess yeah agreed I, but now that the last year, at the time that did you, I didn't we they weren't, like hey this guy rights, cold hit, so we're gonna get our money back. I am I well views so bad. I bet you want to stop talking Chris everyone except piece of theirs so you got it did shitting anyone you wouldn't want to go for a smaller like it's like. I M just not likely not immediately move YO, perfect and also look

I wrote a movie like romantic comedy that mosquito bought, like I'm Romans company like five years ago, then been trying to get that made and I just finished a script fur Kevin heart. Hopefully damn you sell scripts Arch D. Try to get you know the idea. The add on that you'll directed as well yeah yeah. So I know I've directed I directed tumor shower during the new Euro directed Mandy, like I do still directs that yeah yeah apart, like they there, so it so like. No, we didn't fucking like that movie bill balky, and it's like I do. You know why were the writing? What are there, the forensics or so bad yeah? It's basely that idea. Just no. I saw the guy at a second open Mikey our eyes. I got a second over my end. He can't do it no matter,

done since yeah. It's worth a secular. How, like Pat the pass failing of like you just the goods didn't, do well so, and people on people don't watch it then? Or they just go? We didn't. I don't like it, What did you like about the writing or the directive? Was it badly directed? Was it but in people are so sort of simple minded that they can't do forensics on it? like this didn't work that word thou because too much pulling for people's attention and they just don't want to devote an and also its it's. You know as a comic you can. You know me you can fuck up and then we were like other guys, not funny. But if you start writing I mean I always felt like. If you figure it out, you can still people's my ass about with a movie at such a long projects that have so far, but with the anniversary. Like hey, look here, my

those guys gonna. I knew no rogues nigger. I fear that old opinion. It's done. I mean you're saying that people still do, however, a bias. I agree with you, but yes, so scientists do shit. I'm doing pilots in its grey would see what happens. Does when I'm sure you ve talked about this time. So I apologise, but when the when they ve got the big black here's fifteen, I will give you fifty million dollars to come. And he said no word that whole time are you like the Hague, just why? Why do you say no He said yes and then I got it and then I got by my own deal and and then we did this. Oh and then he laughed so, but I still got. I still did good, ok, but aid so that the it's not cold comfort, but it's like definitely

So that's what I wanted you know domain like I wanted to keep you on the show. Look as I don't. Neil Brennan doesn't like to get paid with the other than imitation, because I thought I saw him after I. Actually, I ended up accidently opening for him out of Europe at the punchline, because he just you know he would just do this, kind of gay, a driver of the moment residency and he would say, like I wanna do than they go. Ok and then I was to be had lining and I just ended up opening form for a couple shown right, which I was totally fine. Whenever any talked about it, a bad news like how did you turned out? Fifty million dollars is like, as I got ten in the bank, you know I was like that sort of a. I did like four hours yeah he like a four hour at which was actually engaging net for four hours, but it seemed that they know what kind of seem like he didn't we

any of the any of that stuff. You know you didn't want any of its. I think he is the responsibility thing was penance and then the due in the show was hard like it was really hard I am a knife and then maybe he didn't like that sort of like level of fame. You think you like it and then although now is actually even more famous any does it does in the bottom he's so fuckin it so The vote will be around him like it. So people like will we're with Salmon Channel like a couple months ago, were getting coffee and out we're sitting outside and he's a magnet for fucking lunatics. I've never seen it like, like literally like he, I told I said, I'd go you're like a fuckin wishing well go up

Stand around them. Might Virgin get ice cream in this eat it near him, I swear to you this. How crazy craze magnolias we're sitting out in Santa Monica a home was a black, almost guy walks up to him hands hemmed hands day. Twenty dollars and said: come on now we got work to do. It was like that's the craziest thing, I've ever Zuma, and that was just one of the things that happen ouch, so bad. Then you might. I honestly, like I know it's hard to say I mean it's like of its like. It's a multi faceted thing. It's not just one thing, inanimate why? I guess, if you just want to do, stand up and then all the southern crazy shit comes with it, I mean it,

I don't know, if I would want to be in a situation where you you're performing in a giant venue and you're just tryin to like do what you're supposed to do it or just shouting at your like. Ok, I please now you know which it seems like that really kind of YAP, but now he does it any fair awaited. Just tell people not do it isn't funny that that when guys, it must be a kind of a soul, crushing experience, because you guys did to three seasons to an authority on a third and then you could even it was like he beat him under any more Lui. Does a few seasons like I gonna take up five, the conquered the two seasons the IRA like so like to issue seasons, is right about where you go as you don't need. A thing is, if I you're not I've had other offers to do. Other shows like it's like it's I'm not curious. After a while, it's like Roy,

said today because I again are you know you can do that nature is like. Can I do some else? Like you run its like our guide? I can do that. I your curious. About it like I wonder if I can have a show and yet supervisory lentils and then I can, and then you not like lose interest, but it's like wait. It's you don't have anything to prove to yours,

of other them like? Can I maintain this lead, which isn't as much fun is like being the underdog and people going like I'm like them? I think it was the night before the first ever so tat. We were at a concert and someone you some black. It came up today because, like you may, what are you gonna do cause you're too white for black people into two black for white people and was, like ok, sure nice to meet. So it's like this. So then like prove all that wrong and then and then say you proved wrong. It's funny like withstand of I've, had a similar experience where people were like. We don't think you can draw on the road nothin. I think I can draw just give me a door like Gimme a deal were, and so I spent like two years on doing road gigs and it was like fuck. You guys. I didn't think I get is in a one point, unlike in line at the t S,

with my hands like us any more than you didn't, think Neil Brain it could have been doing that for like a worldwide because like when you, when you're acting in in in as a response to somebody else is the sort of like futile we're gonna do I'm like literally travelling. There said I wouldn t know, but there are so many it so difficult to gauge in this business in particular, because it saw nonlinear, I mean it can be linear, but but there are so many facets to it. How do you judge what your feet? for I'm doing it, I'm doing it yeah it's you know it can be Oh they, you know. One showed up at this thing or people showed up at this thing or there's no show on the air. There's a show in the era of these people are interested in knowing the bones, not ringing Leah. How do you really the it's like we are sitting here? Thirdly, searching for approval not

just for our own narcissism, but also like am I doing good, So I know that if the thing I care about is advancing yeah or am I not advance a big it doesn't, can I should I alter what I'm doing it doesn't work? It doesn't really working away, that's easy to read or as many problems, you're not like someone, I gotta bananas, special airing generating ogoni Centre and someone in an interview they go so what level of fame would you be happy without was like? I don't I'm gonna Yes, wrong remain like I'm, never going to, let you know who's fame. I really. I don't fucking know it's like what I know. It's not like a jacket even going on it's like, really weird undefinable like do you year the amount of fame you have Chris like what is the what's the right amount of fame? I don't know I mean I, I definitely feel like. Oh I've worked long enough

People are very nice to me in public when they know who I am and their respectful and enough people say: hey nice job that I feel like. Ok, I've done. You know a version of what I thought I was wanted to do in, but it's it's not bad. It's like all the Pavarotti, the air they com, like no one, gives a shit ITALY out like another Theobalds pocket enough people care, but not buttoned, but overall No one really gives a shit so not inconvenient. It's not know, and- and- and I know I dont really feel like. If I do something that the press is gonna go, can you once again hardwood puts us foreign is like yeah, someone's gonna get famous for just getting offended at some point there just gonna be like this.

Ended person. They're gonna blow up from that from my blogs. My end, then, I couldn't believe that yet I just I think that you know if you're so under the microscope, like like Chris Rock Ready, the big comics, where you really have to just drop in on a club unannounced, so you can practice some jokes. Yes, oh that Uk Emmy, like feeling those guys have less. The way to fall in their face a little bit if you're gonna be like ha ha ha of guide that somebody I saw was not great and then and then that person you know immediately just forms a judgment based on now. This is part of the project. I think I'm Iraq says when he goes out of the seller like lower your expectations like he does you haven't paid enough money for this, I'm not gonna kill for its twelve dollars that, like he does.

If I'm gonna kill you gonna pay twelve dollars for parking, worry dude if he's good, but I, but I totally understand my guys, like Eddie Murphy, go back and do stand up cuz it's just too I mean you can make the key yeah it's like a heat that I've heard I've seen any talk about, so I can learn everything phones should like. I can't be talk like that, and it's like it is

but if you really want to do it, you know, that's why I think it. Ultimately, everything always has to be about what we act. Katy, ok, fifteen August. It always it has to be about the the work, no matter where the peaks and valleys in your career are. As long as your focus on the work that we focused on the attention stuff, that's always gonna come and go there, and I mean I've been through many generations of it, and but, as long as I can, I have this idea in my head of especially of stuff gets turbulent or whatever that's what's nice about aging is like you just go. Oh I've been through this. I've been through this storm before yeah, I think of it like and I'm not us, I'm not a surfer, but I think of it like here comes a wave, I'm just gonna doc down

yeah and I've. Never let you have essentially, I think of it is that is like a duck, dive I'll duck dive and when I'm duck diving I'll, do it just about the work? Yes focus on the work until that we accept kind, hopefully it'll, hopefully it You know our that work. I've got some sweet waves. There goes done yet so yeah, that's the thing about you just go yeah you're, hot and you're, not dislike kind? I can't pay attention to it. Yeah, it's paint, it still hurt your feelings, but it's like I haven't heard is much the day when I was twenty three right now. It's like Umberto. I met Stephen right in Vegas, just some walking through a casino yellows ice

out and talk to him, and he was he was gonna, get so weird how people think I'm not doing anything anymore. Yet when I guess I'm been performing just as much as I ever have is doubtless perception, they don't seem to be so they think I stopped doing comedy yeah that happened to that. I'm still rock like right, just because he hasn't ahead. TV show or been have done especial years. This hasn't got a special and there are five years little. His was his last special. The two city like we have really add three eyes: the South Africa New York- and Detroit. New York, South every London, London yeah, I mean that's the sort of like the you know, he's these sort of does like the James Cameron Thing or two

Oh you don't hear and then, like oh yeah, this ray, I hear thing where he asked that he can. You know he doesn't thing where he waits until there is like a new wave of culture to comment on a well. It comes out just in time to just be like this stuff- that's happening in this and that yet out, sir, I gotta get mean you know. Louis specially year thing I thought eyes going to spread himself to fan. There are some things that I really just want em to have no say out, but I, as a fan I mean I really wanted to focus more like a thought. His last special was gonna, go good, you know, and I love lose its fine. I mean that's. The thing is I d get its previous special, but this last one. Oh, my god, I thought was fucking phenomena like that I'd. I had a different opinion but, like put in terms they can't you it's really hard to make to work at that level to work at that high level for every year since impossible

like with, I tend to think that Chris is right in and he's got a new our some that's fucking great, because rock yeah yeah, I know I don't they comedy and of coming to be in the round. You know things are now sitting when you have a cord and it is constantly areas like moments in that special or he's like is. The court is wrapped around his leg, but I thought when a wireless, I guess I'm sort of sight those protein Oman. Carl and special role because he's doing the Carlin Track yeah, you know so I just maybe maybe like Harlin wasn't a one year. His was like one every two years. I can't imagine trying to have another separate career and still do one special a year. I latterly old, hat right, jokes that quickly. That's the truth adds a month ago, like I've

say again do and press for the special like you, ve gotta, be relinquished. I go look, I'm not a genius. I have to write jokes enough. There's a high mortality rate of jokes jostling knew just not good enough, and then you just try to it. Just takes a while, and I there's one of the fields add like I'm, I'm, not a genius but then there is also like man alone. What what am I gonna? Do I'm having miserable life. Yeah does for people can write joke faster than ever Am I going to Sally Eric my entirely eggs? I am. I gonna be like that fuckin bill burn the mother felt like now. I gotta try to have a decent life and an yes what he really billboards faster them, but we run fast them, but they're they're solace to be taken. Other venues, gas paratrooper, were at what point in your relationship with Dave. Were you comfortable, pitching jokes or sketches with the inward

Well, like many of you, I mean again, this is ninety two. We became friends and that's like the peak of hip hop the peak of it like hip, hop entering mainstream, so it was a constant and chronic and literally cry. And it is didn't it never occurred to me not to if that makes sense yet like it still does I don't do it around. I say to my act like eight times, and it I it's not like gum people, weird with it or they may really, because the way I'd I set it up in a way that, like it, I talk about being called it. I talk about and the virus. What do I do and alleged so and I never say as we are never like these and I never like so so yeah I dont age. I guess I should I dont know, because I too

work with crescents among his movie pitched fuckin all the time I can haul it literally I'm Anna name and he plays a baseball this like it's a long story, but he plays baseball player and it's like a servadac around two thing and I was the pitcher and he's like eager so you're coming a got now my area like? I was gonna, go, get a guy, we're doing a baseball like this. Why? What other weapon do I had as the White Pitcher spit out? Why I also DM acts was in the movie and I had I wanted him to say Nigger and I so I like whispered, but I started the grizzly argued would like that.

How do I dont say the? I just can't say the there's one about the inward that I just thought I care there's that I have some sort of code, although I couldn't explain it to you like it. There's old people in the audience. I won't say it visual black willingly on its arrival it because it's like to them. It means something else to me. It just means you'd do not remain like this means like abundant negative, like it literally just a bunch of do it's like. I don't even see it like that, and all bitches is kind of the same. I personally on a bench, but there was a downwardly man. I got this one bit and like I, though, if I'm hanging, if I'm not gonna, it was a part of your soul. There's a part of my social strata, as a part of my social life and still is like regularly. I get called it every single day every day by whom, by

The cops know I know I don't like by Dave or whoever text me so I can see it like. I could call it to I'm just saying who called me that today gaelic Charlie, Murphy Tax emitted. A hidden call me that, but he made known he's been known to you're just like black. These same so out of context, if someone was like hey, how dare how could you say this? How do you know I don't look, I don't. I don't get all alike. I dont like go around looking for opportunities, say it it's like Ike. All I can say is like when I say it it's culturally appropriate, maybe not, but can cause. I hear myself program like what are you talking about, but I just the way I say it for the most part is the right time to say ripe and I-

don't say around like this. I don't know I don't around all black people. I said on people like, though, way and where I my social life as an adult, has mostly been immersed I am also aware position where I am expected to write. It do not remain the like and there's not a lot of guys. That are, but I happen to be one of em right viewers, David S or whatever it's like or gets like. If it's gonna, I always say the inward, Why comics is like hamburger? Helper makes every juggled fifteen percent just like a little dollop of a mere fuck but the little by little and I spies yeah, just a little bit. It's like Rock said about David's. Like then was like nitroglycerin like in the right doubt perfect too much it'll blow up in your face. But but like me and Chris never talked about whether I could say it or not. It was just a

and then I would- or I maybe he's mad at me, but I also don't think he thinks about it like this again for you, that's what I don't think. I guess it's like. I don't know me their language, but if they know is again a new, it's not I dont mean It literally. I've never said it in a negative way. That makes sense. Why don't think anyone would say like that, guy's worrisome yeah, I know exactly where you go through my phone. Ok, it's a where's that would show me the races. Show me my racist actions I challenge you, Are you? Are you out there and get it aging re is your special and enable specials women and blankets, That's what my entire act is about. I love my love. I bet you have about how why people need

noise machines and like sleep Adriatic that and then yes, but that's the thing like it's about this neglected. They just need like a bite of sandwiches. I realise that a lot of research at a moment of Seattle, but, like that's the there's, a point where I say like I've never met a black and some AG in my life. That's right and that gets again. That's one of those fork in the road where racist white people think I'm saying black people lazy, so I have to quickly go a meanwhile every. Why president has sleep issues like I have to make it into this differentiation thing that isn't like that. It's weird this shit, it's anything of like I don't like saying it. If there's a if there are too many white people because it becomes like yeah, then I began that guy in Arizona US and them yeah yeah becomes an

Arizona thing like that's, the thing is like I'm: it's almost like it's possible these there's. These differences are our the thing that I've mermaid every survey on the show, a lot was like the most of what the racial who's in America or anywhere are just access, since you don't have access to black people like for the most part and why there are so many white people that, because I I talked to a friend of mine that are athletes Vale, there are there guys that they play in professional sports with that haven't dealt with white people that much but literally, are fucking, afraid or angry or tension have central white ones like spend and twenty minutes bible

and you'll be cool just everyone's and why go they'll be nice TIA, like em and similar. I was encouraged by people. I say a thing we have upon cast me motion called the Champs, it's mostly black ass and I would say that black eyes every black eye, every success. A black eye now spent a lot of time why people grown up because it just demystify why people and its almost too it's always been a hundred percent. True of like Dave, went to grubbing up Yo Chris went to cat to two and all white school. Con yea spend a lot of them. A white people Damon down but a lot of how reliable Biggie spent a lot of how or why people puffy spell out of the way we would like all these guys had been

one of the three lives that no one ever talk about. It's like the mountain. Why? What thing of dislike? That's, not the secret formula, but if they get it, it's just better for everybody because and an why people get to go again of his fingers. Ms seem fine. That's when you come, It is like set like their magic because It becomes a thing of their magical. Now, they're, fine! Well, it's a minute. If it people took more time to spend their energy connecting with other people. Human level than not a any other level. The move it people would actually got. Sardinia really is no problem. There is funding, is a Emily. Our friend would say they know. When she had I like a gay from high school. She would just never bring it up to the moment. She would have that person hang out at the house a lot and then she would mention it be months down the lines. I, if I really like your friend yeah SAM's, I own Yosemite, oh really, so

This is a normal near likes you just gotta ISA and now her parents, the southern, like just very well, that's what they said about gay marriage. It was like the ones you see that like, it's just there's roaringly marry the not like on the frontline fuckin like leather shoes. So on, and I was like no, it is not going to work and do in regular people stuff the outlay. It's not all sent all the gay pride for it. Louis joke about them touching Dixon the front before you're about to eat ass. They just automatically come on China. You guys are blown into the lab train. A mile. There's not going to be even now is that the gay marriage there well is his ideas that beat up that people just sit around in there just mad about gay people together like it does it affect you totally understand. I can read every cereal than two guys. Just touch thinks right above your Spoony. I gotta learn well, and we did it merely that either we

we did it, congratulations and all the success. I bet you like that, in addition to the special I know you have you really coming central showed yet who write Hyalaea, you're, doing a pilot and then your do you sold another shown, checkable dont stuff, it's gonna be you guys me no Britain, our central there were actually actually I'm doing senators. They don't be jealous right and then you have your your bike. I would say across Europe as well: NEO Brennan, God Bless and Julia Burrito, great they're, leaving no dot com enjoy your burrito