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comfortable on fun, comfortable to adopt common tonnage city, so go therein and check it out and come out to a show. So we finished at midnight. Last night I got in a red, I came to New York and just through random delays, or whatever almost tend to go straight from dropping out my luggage too. I guess so. They sleep deprivation had an extra element of surrealism to the fact that we were talking a public army and he was incredible. You'll hear and Matin Jonah were there and we left the pod. Cason oldest dad's had to go sit somewhere for a minute and just to try to get some food with judges stared at each other, like how did where how convincingly that long ago, we were in Tomlins converted garage starting the podcast. Now five years later here we are talking about Macartney,

That is a largely thanks to you for your first time with me, because you solve homer cronies name and thank you for a check this out and if you ve been a listener. Honestly, we couldn't do this without you. Listening in your support, so huge piles of thanks on you, Good Human Paul has any single out called hope for the future. It is from the destiny, soundtrack destiny, videogame made by bungee and published by Activision, and you can get that he's. Gotta pee pee on Itunes right now is a bunch different mixes, the song that already Corso Gerda Itunes check out. If he wants you to video, that's on Paul's VIVO channel on Youtube, but I am honoured and appreciative and freaked out to say here is the nervous cats number six. Fourteen with Sir Paul Macartney. Now entering medicine, com,

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de I notice you have with yet. We all have to weigh up areas. We all carried. You have our saviour me. Let's just the jacket, This is the hits. Your backpack is just a jacket. Do you like that? of accessibility that we all have to each other. Now that we're so interconnected that people contracted out at any second, you know I mean I like you for people who want it. I don't want it no, whereby I'm a special case. We know when you can get famous. You don't want people to have available you, you know what does anyone else here? I'm going to you know these zones, where forces and restaurant tonight

I am looking forward to it like no way would I ever do that's right, I'm going somewhere else tonight. Don't want you to know why you tweet Paul is going to be all of garden than ever at the beginning of the right to choose. You know about the eye, so I don't really get the accessible, I'm kind of joint keep out of it. The trouble. Is you know you don't want to look like a dinosaur shore. Looks like someone who doesn't get the this. These things called emails right in a bar. Having said that, I don't like it You know I'll be in a restaurant and I'll see you a couple and on the phones. I want to go the guys who look when she is beautiful put your phone away, a lot of talk to you, same with her. You know.

Would you say that these are all the time and I suppose we talk and motionless who know they're, probably asking each other. Wasn't gonna have texting early, I broadly loose good, but yeah. So I'm I'm a bit of a dinosaur. I can walk along the street, no phones looking that New York, because I'm still a tourist No, I love a universe does mean I observe more than the average beast. Probably yet do it is near. You deliver actually live in your place, horse tipster, so israeli others fantastic do. How is New York duty is, it is You feel, like all you know, if I had to decide to pick one place to live like this, might be the place. No, it will be. England in London or some abide, do love New York. So I'm I'm lucky because I got a New York wife. So we split the time between the two. So I get best of both worlds. What was the first time you came here,

with the reels in like uniting, insists that there really wasn't presumption first time over retinue young. Any of us here It was my blog. Is Not only will we come into New York for the first time and, like everyone looking up all the buildings and stuff, but we were on the radio I need over cool radio show playing great stuff, mainly ass yeah, you ever so there is a crisis of our body experience, but it was very spot. Well, that's crazy, so you ve actually never been able to come to New York, just completely anonymously, no strew and even now you know, I think I'll put my jacket off of my coat and I'll put the shades on what kind of put my hair back and forth hey PAL, think of all now,

Elvis, but how did they spot you? They? Just no people just know they can just sing. I wonder about it. You know I don't know. I was just thinking. I just walk in a couple of blocks: Lukas Travis, The bad news is gonna, be late for you, guys he's walked and I'm thinking which of me. Is it in Obama: Cholera in August shades. On the other hand, my pupil to forgive me anyway, but sir, I remind you are like walking around like meeting people say. Maybe I don't always do photos cause. You know others. Move with me with voters. Is it not? me? I'm not me anymore, it has always on me in the room with you guys as five minute I'm and they will probably affordability and others. I didn't you, you know you posted on the street. Famous guy, yeah and suddenly

I may not want to be him just want to go into snob automotive wanna go to bed at Christmas shopping awesome so here so that luck? It's a bit, but I do it and I say to you look happy to chat with you shake hands with just talk. Is it you spend more time with a renewed would for a photo. Why did you food and get it over with so because he robbed me of me: the changes are not not this guy. I think I am inside MECCA The poster oh yeah. I I hold to that more than a lot of people and also when used, one person stops you than other sudden. It starts to turn into this. Like horde of and then where those rights, and then you don't get anywhere, but I'm interested to hear about how the what's the despair, between the guy in the poster. A need in the guy that you think is inside he's very famous. And I'm not I'm like just a dad

I look at granddad, no, so that that's me seems like me, I'm the guy who drops my young. Store of school talks, the school moms. That's me, you know, but the next week I'll be in Rio in front of forty five thousand? That's him honeys! I like him No, but I prefer me So it is a thing. I've always done it really to begin at the Beatles. Remember George Innovative saved me: would you go on Bosman you crazy. You know we ve gone well beyond the ally, Did you to feel pain. You and I did it in New York. I was, I came from long Island on the jitney nor the jitney is now it's it's a boss. Ok, basically comes from Long Island, so I took it and it was great as I had this long book, I was reading

had this reality is great on. So I feel really good. I got off in New York, but got dropped. Ten blocks twenty blocks to far away from where I was so. I knew how to take the boss. Luckily the right change, which open since I've never got the right change the right June, we're on the boss, because everyone is just like pretending. They have noticed me regime with computers. Do that you know for this one lady, she starts shout you probably know that alone browser I am. I was going. Where were you soon? Mozilla. Come over here, is not shouting across the board to reintegrate conversational where you going oil, is a lonesome made. Some people say where you go. I won't see my sister

It is right. You know me I like that is still me, when it's all a merry I love it's a very human experience in and I would imagine that when people come up and they start freaking, Can you can probably like? I know, I'm just a guy, you, ok. Can you remember a time when people weren't freaking out me sure Salute Lena two to when we were twenty, did I wasn't famous. So these twenty years of fame you know do you remember like not being able to get in clubs things now. Or to call suddenly you're famous our common sense, and that is the best seat allows you know and I once actually, I got fed up with the fame after the first couple years around about when we did a film half holidays, night That would make people

Gimme, a disguise. Think of a disguise, so they go alone. A glass. Is that one kind of an opponent, back I went on holiday in France. I just drove myself just to get out of it all I had a little astern, Martin very cool. I just drove through France and out of love and experience until one. I wanted to go to a club the thing was no entertainment hotel, those little cheap hotel. So by what's the club as the disguise guide no way was. I get leave us as soon as evil play. You know like normal neural, so we're back a hotel, came back. His him, you know is like that proves the point you are, so sir, it's it's a mix blessing. You know, I'm very happy,

You know. I'm glad you know to have both sides of apply do like the privacy yeah So when you, when you go to France to get away at that point, a couple years in do you say, like I don't know, I can do this anymore. You go well like how do you refocus your brain and how do you advocate that can crush a lot of people yeah No it's I was sacked super conscious of that, and I think he was a kid I was one of these. Its euro would get like on a bus. Go a few stops get off Take a look around you. I was always in a just see people's like. Like I was an artist gathering info, you know, slogan is good. Yes, so that was a thing you know, there's always very conscious of being too many, that kind of very private guy I'm when the Beatles got famous

oh wait. A minute is this, is gonna, go began really big. Now, so I thought there's gonna be somewhere while gonna be a bolt hole I went on holiday to Greece one time a nobody knew who was an hour ago. I was trying to sell myself to the local band. We re man really big backing to let it go the area Calumet. So I thought this great big Greece will be the place where I can go away from it and then again doing than a couple of months letters you number one in Greece Sower, but at that point. I thought I've gotta make the decision. I've got to either quit this whole. Cuz. I don't wanna, be that guy. Or I love music too much, and I just got to deal with it and made the latter does

Yeah I mean when we appreciate that when Europe are you would you consider yourself kind of work, a holocaust? Do you think you can You need to be doing stuff at all times. You know, I don't think so, I dont consider myself tat. I may be people SAM, but you know. I point out that we don't work music, we play it. I mean it sounds a little bit facetious, but I think it is true. Music is my hobby. So in all its now. I had a chance to just have a couple hours I'm gonna write a song. I would be like the excited about them. Possibility of why we needed homer, could be like the great rocks are never could be a very soon. Ballard, let's see so I just cause I'm so excited by that that's kind of what drives me just term I just love what I do you know very lucky. I have a friend

namely him and he told the story earlier, but I think it might be true, but he said that you like took over a school or something and and and pin people young musicians would come in and then you would work with them not just on on their musical Billy's, but also trying to understand the business of music yeah. My school I went to in Liverpool was called Loophole Institute high school for boys. The thousand boys in the school, what there when I was eleven and then on the way to boost one of the mornings I met. George Harrison, you live Naomi, we were like schoolmates, going to discuss those very special place for me not my rig. I think I got very good education free because it was estates you know, so my parents did not much money, so you can have a really good thing. I'm in here is later after the Rios fame? I went back

just to pay a little nostalgic trip, and it was rolling down, they did they do like you, did the roof Kaliko more from the rain was comin in areas like Parker Flooring. There was bottling off, but it was really just the drop in so started a campaign to save it. It was built in eighteen, twenty five. So you know that massively historic, big, famous, Liverpool build new. Not so we didn't we campaign, we saved it, We made it into a performing arts school. So it's now call the institute for the performing arts and sport you for them to be talking about is that I go up and talk the kids try and help the kids who, during the songwriting course first I say to them, as I dont know how to do this. With songs? Nobody, to know how to do how you know, you don't want a formula to I.

I listen to what they ve been writing some suggestions you? Maybe there second verse would work. Great is the first worse we do that little one or more, so I do I'd go to the graduation talk to the kids. Great. I really love does now. You did save MILES school, which is like very important. I say to me half the Beatles went the others I go back and I do the animal is great working with the kids. You know it's good hearing because quite various some music. They come up with Toby a kid from Norway whose, like fogey these goals, Dylan Route. So that's nice to listen to and then not be. Someone comes in with a kind of hip hop cd, dance, music is good,

different types weed. The school does really great. It actually pays for itself. Will you can you believe that you know the decision everything's gonna refunded? couple years it didn't allows having to pool our money into it. To six begun, but I said to the guys: look at its is good: it must pay for itself I don't like all sort of funding to see Shakespeare. If you want to go, see, Shakespeare, great, go and pay dollar keep Shakespeare lie, but it always funding. Dislike is no good. Stay around, so only right, it's the eye. Looking oh, really gonna try and make a pace. We beat really listen to me in too great. I'd actually place for itself, and so it is really good. I go up, glad that it's going is keeping on. On the kid

you come out of there. I mean what is Can we teach? In always, down. Early days answer them we do hit. You know we can't teach him to be a John Lennon cassettes. You can't teach that. Can't you to be a deal and that stuff just comes out of woodwork somehow and we don't know how that happens, but well you do is, will teach him like friends said you know like MIKE it's like music songwriting, but they do act dance in management. Business stuff on the great thing is. What will happen is all the kids then interact, so the song I too will get the video people to make his video with em and they will use the stage people to light. It is critical, I go after graduation in its gives me hope.

Views around so that it is true that is like really. Why feel, every time I go up there, you know it's two sources of cool see all these young graduates about tributes, only on the world and in our because we cannot teach him to be Dylan's while we teach them is too to be people who can get work so They often work and like the western shows, this one guy who is into the rock all business under I gotta. I meet a lot of guys who do in that house and they really do well trained people that they go and they come They want to work. The donor kind of like yet what we do there like thereon. Think that's about what we can do, but I had a guy. Recently he was doing monitors for us. We were rehearse,

add a couple of gigs, really cool young guy, really on top of his game. So while quite who keep my this guy and he was from labour. So next time we will go out. I said I get this guy Jones, you saw TAT, he was so cool cannot be resolved. We coalblack so arbitrary, no school, a lover. You know who the feeling those very inspiring. How do you do? try and understand the business of music which at me like it, which seems now obvious its change. Everything is splintered, and it's all here and weird and usually from platforms, but when you started where all the sudden you you guys we're super successful, and then how did you were just dropped into this business? jus navigate that at the time, and how did that not too? How did that not get in the way Ok, you know, I I think about that

because it's so not like that, these days, but why was was we have? period in Liverpool, where we were pre fame just kiss knocking around guitars he's doing what you do and you trying to be in a group. Then we had big peered. In Hamburg. We got this. A man over in Hamburg and there We would work something like sometimes like eight hours a day in our in Are you are you certainly would work five in an evening, but then we can sometimes it stretched to the morning. You know nude, she long how's being kind of young guys, who were kind of interested, in what was going on. You know we like the new films, new books. The new records knew this now would get really bored over those eight hours churning. The same ten songs that we knew

any songs or renew. So we learned lots and lots of things so when it go part. Four member we had quite a lot of experience in dealing with audience is in he can audiences from nothing to the club was filled. You know those are all great training things you really literally replay, displace coolly, Indra think means in, in Germany and in which there was nobody and so we would like really having to withdraw the hold the sign of a of my shows because the guy the shifts Philip we like them dodge a guy of the club. He said I shall shall you make show of Lakes YO and with what we see me Nuno, we actually gradually learn how to do the cause. You see a couple of students at the at the door? come in

So this is our cover. These are people, you know and we just be playing, but then could be a price, and they go. Oh that's what matters of age and they go out Don't know we ve already got capture them, even so we learn dinner. We see them, would not each other z, industries, dance, clapping, her hands, move in this was so great wheel. It'll. You gonna come in no more about a share. One we're all evening come in. I we gradually built that, so it is. Jammed. Pact was a time we'd fin that engagement, so we so much so announced a question we learned because we were like interested guys yeah we're looking around what was going on and we were source in it, and learning so them when it came to be minor fame. We really Can I looked around and saw how and the lap

because we have the strength of the union with the four of us sure we will If one of us was a bit of color, the others would help. In those who was always yours have the guys to fall back on, which is a good thing by the time we got into major fame over here, let's say only had Sullivan show. We were like fully formed we're like a fully formed beast which foreheads and we're knew how to do it, but no he'll be here, knew that we knew the so they Soros and is one broadcast on its, What did they come from where we we ve been really working out a real hard soya say I do say the kids these days to try and get that experience become just fine play loads clubs, one club a lot, but just try do loads. Are things some other time propelled too, were you know, extract Mr Adam, that it's gonna, be. You know

what's going on shore but plume that you know this is what I must do. I must make a record. I must write a good song. I must be taken in by the whole thing of fame was my feet on the ground in We had a lot of time to learn those things which I think some of them today propelled instantly overnight. Into Mega tv fame? I think they have of it? problem with it like. How are you gonna do with that? yet weird and end the successes very much. I think maybe I disagree, but I feel it is primates sense that it sort of their preparation meeting opportunity. You had all these all this time to prepare and then that one opportunity- and it just those two things- just collided India and it worked, but ok, No! No. That will let you know. It is true that I feel very happy to have had that. Can I think of it staircase

by the time we hit big in America. We'd be known, the staircase quite a lot we ve We started off in tiny little clubs bigger clubs. Then there was the Hamburg thing. We came back and then it will. I see it ball rooms radio, Donald tv shows so you know you will gradually just getting a little bit more up the staircase but more experience? Every time you went to a tv show, you saw how they did it You saw how the guy's lit it. Now that we're put you and you know how to be with the time the guy is, you know just how to find. You way through it and navigate. She said so I feel very lucky for that experience. Is it thing. To hear that it's not, I mean Very little of it is an accident. You know, even just even just the fact that you guys were had the awareness to go okay. This is where we light the best. This is where we

move this way, the best from playing the size room that you. Basically you boiled this. You know we, the expression was artistic, but you actually boil down the science of figuring out. How to do it I think so. You know I mean you don't remember me, we quite small. Riddles. He said modestly, you know we learnt thick heads, we quite John was well educated. He went grammar school me, George, did to ring or didn't Well, you know university of life. In his gaze I mean the thing was like ie is very ill will use a kid. He had pair The night is which is like life's revenues is mom, was told totally wooden live so Ringgold like us, incredible survivor unity, so he didn't go to school, but version he's like in hospital all the time so

So when you go out, but you meet him now he's a very clever guy, but its itself taught is not college but the rest of us, you know were Armenia, we were doing Shakespeare chores. And stuff- and you know so you can exams justice over the time we left off, behind and got in a group we we had. Some background I had a really good english literature, the teacher at school. One of those guys you gets kids you know, knew how to reach us that point. Sixteen year old, Liverpool Guys- didn't really want to know you like me. To go to school so or I teach me, but I don't like this when he reached me with very cool guy. So I got a love for this thing and I actually know deploy well in the exam because of him

teach you mean Chaucer, and you know that's like old English right here, pretty pink chief was unfair, like Liverpool goes go. Why Why is there? No, let me explain to be, you know, need break it down. Issue being translation and stuff, so I got fascinated by at all, and then I saw Sir all knew no more. We got beetles started becoming writers mean particularly in and George Unring later, when we in writing. I always thought of tat stuff. Imagine some kind of vaguely informed what I was doing, forced to read a lot of poetry. I've been, was to learn stuff out of Shakespeare. In just I desire to take exams? Why had learnt by thought later in schools, kind of cool, so I can do no budget bridges to to do today. You know, know how things flow on that

that kind of fell into my song. Writing sure that you are able to take this kind of classical structure and shake it up and make it fond of a little messing around the edges and did I mean? I hope this isn't a weird question, but generation like watching me itself and footage we just see it is two dimensional black and white. Is there any way you can describe what it looked like to like what was what was three dimensional experience. Oh yeah, well, I mean first of all, you know it was for young guy is coming to New York. Onto this, show that we have, no idea how big it was, We didn't know who had stolen the moss. No who Walter Winch was, you know who had. Moreover, version of these were all like american famous people, so we can into order. Yeah, so we ended up at the Sullivan. Theater and to us. It was like just a high rise in English.

We'd gone to tv studios, but they ve been, can a purpose built low rise things by the river You know like little films activity was suddenly, it was like was just like it, Building new open in the left and go to one floor where the studio using them down to another floor for the makeup and oh, it was incredibly know because it was smaller than we thought it was. It was three the whole of what they seem to works very Martin. That's like about all history. You know when you were a kid, you look pocket, you vote, does not what is so long ago, but because of the time you thought wow. I love these new genes these so here so we thought it was like really amazing things. Would happen like we were told, to go and get makeup, and sitting in the make up chairs were gone

really like Michael Roland were guys would rather not do this and the two girls. It trust me and I know the show. I know the lighting, let me do you since you didn't you, we're like all come out orange. We. I owe my discovery, terrible she's, no trust me I know or work the show every week, So we went out these orange faces. This little place will come. Sure enough. When you look at it now, it doesn't look you're. Talking like like really necessarily look like we ve got makethem. I was very three day very exciting for us. I must say The curtains were whatever, which was always kind of a thrill, stroke, frightening experience, you ve come out from behind Zenos. Suddenly you haven't just ambled on, like I do my show now just gonna get to

the peoples of you suddenly revealed. You know I had this one moment where I was for the time in the whole history. The group I was gonna sing. This one song, solar, So we make the guitar behind these yesterday and Just me Suddenly I was their salary. The guitar behind these curtains and dumb This guy comes up. It was one of the curtain holders. Make sure they dont snag the guy on the inside of those curtains. You didn't know over is barely some there's a guy on the other side. Who has an amazing story about the time he pulled the curtain? I am again, it is I have amazing story by him because he is To me, I'm standing is two seconds ago you nervous. I said no, lying, because I was the low, because you know that age- that chemist in think I could control it

The thing now don't look nervous anyway, I said. No, not you suggest, be the seventy three million people watching single out there that open up on live, inform us every three million people. Seeing in this song I'm wondering why I haven't fainted, but in that experience are probably just feels like you're in a club with a bunch of weird machines staring at your ride a world to some degree. But you know the moon, a guy points. Are you not your own tv nook? Does that well and then, of course, you know the thing was the kids or you don't see too much on the tv snuff is the audience which is screaming kids yeah. That was good for us. Because those were our people, So even though we were in a tv studio, in fact,

New York in Famous Sullivan's programme, still relate to these people who were screaming because these were off hands and so that Canada, java debate. Yeah we're gonna knew what to do with them. Yet whereas if it just been no audience, I think you being like much more nerve, Racking or and probably little more sedate or a little I mean. Can you if you're playing and there's no audiences, I'm sure you had to do before do? Do you prefer like, there's an audience right there do you play just sort of play to the camera, the sort of intimacy of the camera. You know I think, a bit of both. I think you try retailers, minorities there buddy you real. As the recent must now you just get on with it. You know situation is different. This deal with it as it is coming in here. How do you define in your mind. How do you, first of all you hard on yourself you're, a thief,

a lot more people. Are We like, as a twenty years before the Beatles with me growing up and you never think you could You know you never do you think now. I think I really ought to think I'm fantastic I've got this pile of achievements, and I really ought to think come on poor. That was really, You know what still going loescher kicker can I ever can I do. I had a friend who was very famous orchestrator room, the classical world unease, to me once he says you know, my biggest fear said: why is it being found out? O Of course, this is a tool to be like a lot of people have the it doesn't matter how great there still is the human condition sure she's the one little thing. I knew them in a way. It's good because it makes you try

I think in a way I would like to just sort of thing. You know how cool I I know I just lift a finger in its great so yeah nor pre, harder myself. You know, I don't think I did it. Show or something girl. I've to get soft on myself The hard experience sure so sexual earlier it after the heart experience again, you know when we operate first, that's no reason, but no still find that we all know the songs off. My latest album is everywhere. To embarrass me yeah, you know. I'm I really do think that crazy and I have to like argue with Myself- that's problem not true, but using it by. You told me, you hear artists who could write self loathing? Sure expression. I only heard the last couple using sad.

I mean, like amazing people. You know someone, I think of his lady Gaga, say told him of self low like producing great yeah. You can do it. You write great she's done some great stuff and yeah. She still got this. A core. We all have, and we had grown up, and the guy eyes or girls who think the great aunt right. You know it's the sort of great guy in high school, most likely to succeed, and he doesn't like suddenly, this old lawyer that were right. Did you ever? It was ever like a bully that you that was like your your local, bully that, after guys, baited that You know I was always written for your like you were used to kill me. I had no locally there wasn t much lino. I mean like a lot of people. You can't you joke your way out of it. There was sitting

just like that and I had a cobbler situations were you know I got color like where you'd call mugged. Now you know just a couple of often bigger guys. There's no way I could take them, and so they had my watch. You know just like When I reported corn, I make the system jerk. So how do you? How do you define? How do you define it? as for yourself, then I mean in sport, keeping this balance and like when you, when you play a show, had what is it about that show that makes it go. Ok, did I did a good job as an audience reaction or something that you do personally. What is it? for me. It's probably of I think I sign great I got a lot of challenge songs. Missing, something like maybe I'll amazed. Its power challenging vocally, there's like sort of, Quite a few high notes in this is stuff that I've got him

it sound real, a gallery. Feel it in. I can't just go: maybe figure guy right really get that? No you, so I think I've done good, that's probably the best for I still think you know quietly the other, about my thanks. A dimple shyly? You know, I think, that's kind of bodies for me and then this audience reaction. Sure that's really important Juno know, and Luckily touch. Would these days We have four untasted reaction. I was I'll, just talk him a promoter. If you're gonna do some shows in Japan. I say to me, you just put one show on sale right to see cells out. Then you put the next one on this puts real time and have it like be slow So I am very aware of that. You know, but some once the look. You really wanted to see me didn't you

Paolo just sold outline ten minutes, forty five thousand tickets. I go yes, and so I will go down to some power and I will be able to look and I always go. You really wanted to see me didn't knew every morning. Eu money really worked at it and he took it. Minutes so I guess you get a lot of confidence, yeah, probably too much taken to being in a totally overcome. I don't mind it gives. You know you learn this vote. Some kids are saved me. What's what do you need wise when I was young? I was like a tariff I soon assumed everyone in our orders, Asia me and I had to prove them wrong. You know they? U? They all thought you're about singer, you look crap You don't know how to play that Qatar. None! No, no and I've you gotta go some to make them like Reno

but when you get these sell out, the stuff It's a little more. I can now say to myself: no, they like you so that you are going to be so. I will we really have a good time. You know I think these are for yeah when Europe, when playing a lot of different instruments like you learn to play pretty much everything is a few. You know a few of you, but what is it when you're when you're, when your work specially back then what but you're working for is it just for the for the art of music or is it like? I have to get better. Have to get stronger. I have to get that Iraq is there. Is there a person in your head or something that you're striving for truth back then Molly. Savings will everyone's working for the money. And we were poor. Kids know that poor or you know where I regret I couldn't afford a car nor in my family had a car. I was like this I want to get a car my whole family

so you know you're going. I first want to get needed in your whole family to that's true tat S really, Maria butts so that that was the thing you know that it was. It was money. You know we all were perfectly, admitted that there was no shame to that site. That's why people get jobs together, so some money to buy a house to buy a car and, in our case a guitar New those Roy was guitar first car next, maybe House Do me a John used to sit down I got this house would sit we'd right of song, we sell came. Authorized soldier. Ok, the list like that right. A swimming pool what's this morning, calls on the item, but we would lose. And you know it is now

become a little bit more shameful to think like that all come on. You don't really do have the money to you, I'm here now I dont term, but In the beginning, it was money I'm girls should tell you the truth sure it was like. Oh, we couldn't get arrested on the girl. Seen till we got in a group, and we had no money. My first job recent by my grandparents talking much job was seven pounds. Fifteen a week was like fifteen dollars a week or so ass. We wanted money when I wanted more than fifteen dollars, those without that was you early motivation, sure then the nice thing was because it started to get kind of. A fund to do and artistic, then became the next reason to do. It sure is like this is really cool. Wait a minute. You know Do you know that,

such a song. Maybe I could do something like about low newness, an old ladys. Ok, yes, I didn't Elinor Ripley, you know school, so maybe one someone leaving home or they'll right, she's leaving home so new stuff. Then too, just being into it for the job? of the art by first it was not. It was pure money. Did you feel? any superstition about. Oh, we gotta protect us or did you feel free like? I think if we do anything, it's gonna work, you know we were. We were, I think think about us is reform intelligent guys who are really. Interested in this. Well, we will grubbing up in whose postwar where water is our parents had been in the war. My dad was like in Liverpool I was getting bombed at my mama. You know, and I often think, Tunisian having a baby in the middle of all that and, as me,

like in my car crying and there's like It was almost a little. Go bombed seriously, Sower Yes, it's that generation, the wizard parents who'd been very fearful and I've been there glad to get out of that sort. It was sing. Songs, view travels in your role of some phone, you know so they then things got better for them obviously for us. Consequently grew the kids of that and then suddenly there was this time when rock n roll arrived, which they was really very liberating news like wow, seriously good soul, arrived. You a lot of american music that we're listen to so Then it just blossomed. You know, and then it was just pure joy to

part of that and to realise that you'd escaped this whole sort of thing that need We need a now, you could. Actually make your own way, so I say so Everything was interested, the theatre that was going on these. These were going to great productions at the time in London. You go to them the movies overcome in areas like James Bond, early palm things. The muse coming from work and particularly the sole they are obeying the Mau Hurrah before so we we would just fascinated by all of that, and I think what it was we didn't want bored with what we We're doing we saw. Roll is great stuff going on and we just saw if we're gonna make music, we don't turn it out Does it won't be the same record and then same record. Almost but a little bit

better and then the same record after that backwards. You know, like you have backwards, Ok, we could do that whatever you know, so we were gonna grasping for ideas and we wanted each song the Beatles. If you listen to Song Allowance like yeah, but your further on. You know you gotta, you get quite a variety of styles and was just cause. We we wanted to play with all these angles to keep ourselves interested you. We were where to do stuff that had good lyrics beak, We didn't want to sing bad lyrics, you know those ready. I was gonna selfish away, but in a good way, it was. You know keeping yourself fascinated? the world you're in what I think. That's really there That's really important, especially in six. Using a lot of times. Success makes people scared, they don't

They don't want to lose the thing but they have yeah so they stop taking risks and they sat experimenting bread centre for some reason you guys had the opposite thing of like. Oh no. This is the time to you know, play a saloon like to do to make our rocky raccoon song or to do like to just play with different instrumentation, indifferent radiation yeah, does that really was what it was and we never felt that kind of not a formula, stick with it. It was, you gonna formula get rid of it was absent, opposite and so we kept ourselves entertained. It was, we would really fell like we are really doing something radically wrong if we moved forward you know wanna before every album used to make. I would play the last album To remind myself, where was up to our interests play the whole thing? Ok, that's! Where we're up to now, we got a better, certainly can't do that. Do something different now and then just try

and so you that's. What happens with the Beatles to the progression is quite enough Yeah really. I was just just didn't want bore our and me. Like a song like yesterday, I'd written it actually he came to me in a dream, was crazy storybook. So I had This thing that I thought I was gonna magical melody once had finished song. I took it to our produce, George mind at ease Adam by now I say you was catching so getting into the sellers do something new, so He came along willows. You gonna give him. For that. You didn't gotta, keep trying to pull us back come on you don't please. Please me it's a big here. Let's do you please me greatly. And so will I support. Is the song destination to me. The next visit. I have an idea. In court. Adamant

no way man springboard there was a classical. So do we Madame du no critical couldn't do that. He said I'm very wisely. He said, let me just try it I'd recorded the boy and the guitar like it wouldn't take, takes a few further use, the first one. So so we had and he said I wanted he said so. If it doesnt work, you don't like it. We can just take it off so ok transferring offers a deal. So we do. I laughter whose kind of news tingles homeless, bind. It was like wow you know this again This was another little lift and what we do So then, after that I did Ellen Ribby used the I'm kind of idea but like instead of it, or tat knows knocked her loose different, more rhythmic, but That's what I was you know just getting excited with what you did and thinking this could be even more exciting. Yes,

Stu. Wow, you know, then you found it on this gonna stick. So when with wings did you feel like this? Is a new, a brand new progression, or do you feel like starting here, and this is just an extension of the staircase. Now I really have to be a brand new thing. You know I was conscious of you don't follow the Beatles. Anyone who never try to inaugurate even to this day, anyone who as we are the next beetles. That's kinda debt you know I always do we're gonna, be the next we're gonna wheels and either you good. I was in your own about saying now you gotta go improve. You know it is like don't say it just think, it'll be it that's. Why also? But I think that its

That's that's such a flawed statement because I mean there were so many almost astrological elements. It came together. It seems like it wasn't a lot of it, horse. Was you know your preparation and the in in the talents? In the end, the foresight in the planning, but there, also this accidental technological revolution in Social revolution and political revolution, images and all these things that converge, It's done you not one point in the. I dont know how that gets replicated. Well, not exactly, I also reside historical because, as I said, you know postwar our parents, feeling the relief of peace then was growing up in that amends. Suddenly being to be artists, this young age. In this scene, that was feeling it to all the pain Turkey is only sculptors all the theatrical people, the actors, the directors were off and you are in this town would always people see.

Go to parties. I need red meat with Canada, China, nor Harold, Pinta or, repeat a whole or whatever sculptures painters, Richard Hamilton, you'd hang out with all these guys so It was very exciting, direction. You know so like you know getting the Richard Hamilton to do? The cover of war became known as the White Album sure which there's no cover it was so excited in a working with him I'd. I spent a week with him, I rang the guys who I like this idea to go, see Richard because I knew him through a friend of mine who was a gallery owner robber, Fraser and term so I want to go and see rigid see if he's got ideas, so I spent the weakness I've been to his house studio and talking to him,

the more you think you know how to delete the lilies it have you got some photos. Can you get photos of of the of the guys just get every. To get photos of the risks its or whatever they want sending? We voted in this, so I I rang, everyone can you get us together, took him into him and then he to assemble among his easel. As a college was to be a poster there. We're gonna put in the album and he did it at the correct size, the bigger and reduce it or smaller and enlarged. He did it size, and so I learned some great lessons. Talking about his interfacing. With these other great artists in other fields, the gray lesson I took away from that was you stuck all these photos on there in a great college and right at the end of it he took little bits of white paper and you stuck them onto why you do now. Is it is negative space

What do you mean you? You gotta will look through the poster cities other students all these pictures Peter do, ginger ginger too much info. Do these little bits of negative space are really important, and if you Look at it now the posts that came with a white on so true- and I you know explain to me? No, if you drawing someone if you do Someone like that with their arm cotton. Soda hands on a hip right. You draw the hand the arm and everything, but the space we in the body and the elbow that's really important. Yeah, that's like a crucial you got that right, I'm looking at. You then seen us by and he knew the so. It was right. You know just hanging out with those guys Benny, I'm so basis. There ever been an elm called the Beatles. The sooner we meet the Beatles or introducing the Beatles or please me whatever he's Rob Soul, Islamism issue. Do that, so that's act.

Is the official title of it. And he said we should number them like. An art edition Imagine the record company love to hear. I want a nominal man can't do that. Well, you keep them unless we can't do that with everything we bring you, you know Jim Pepper covers another one, but it was good good, too kind of fight them. Fought on that. Do you know we came up with this idea. I at the time I was a bit of the ideas man with that kind of stuff. I would, I would say we should call ourselves sergeant. Purvis, lonely, hearts cabana to get away, from Vienna beetles we're like you, know, we're pressured by our own. Identity so pretend with someone else, we can go in there. You can walk up to the microphone and think well, I'm John women, so it doesn't matter. I'm a man through this fictitious banned? It really worked. Free. This is like we can do

You don't like so cool who do not like what would that be. What should we do? What we find expect me to, so yeah cover. I thought, we'll just have a we'll have us surround like our idols I asked the guys to write list of whoever you liked. Georgia's case it was kind of eastern mystics. Out of the consumer library, booster Keaton stone knows whoever we thought was cool and we about this list and then we would just gonna picture ourselves in there and it can be floor clock which thing we had up north in in Nepal rocks the recreational areas. They always made a big clock,

reason out of flowers at the entrance of Disneyworld there's a big black. Like I love the idea. Juice was like eternal the time is always this sooner I put together idea, then, was robbed phrases for animal got got torpedo Blake. British artist to up to do and he took it to a new level, unity for others. Consumer So that was. I was rigour, but then I to go to the rec company and sail how'd, you like it is the cover they freaked out. Should you got people? Molly Embrowned, owner he's, never go your permission. I say he will he will we're gonna get sued. You know how we gonna go. Because the clearances on all of us, I say: look, I tell you what you do. Would always told you this guy, the head of the label was a real great

I called Sir Joseph Lockwood, her said Joe, is very nice guy and for some reason I still had this good thing with him. I could get home with him, so I could just try, Hey Joe Commitment, listen gotta, do this papa, can get sued seller just write a letter to all say the Beatles want to do this cover. They love to use your image. Would you mind at ease what happened was easily ok you and he did they did that, and them all It came back sure, fine, new, no problem. Except for one guy who was, from the Bible boys have you ever seen an old black like those guy, the Bowery Boy, with a one guy this nor could guy who didn't wanna, do. And so we saw a screw him. You know ease out so either

got replaced, but all the other guys didn't. So that was enough. We only needed one one of the very wisely ETA Bowery boy you got about, so really didn't buddy. I know there is always the you know, and I say only on the White Album. We have problems alma on too, but it was great inertia we can always, and we will. We were by then in a position of power shore Because I knew gonna sell Ryan? That's really. While label cares about right, they don't care about the art, ass her, so I could always is gonna, be late. Arrival so yeah, so they did on on the white home we're talking about them numbering the additions they did object. Five thousand allow that they did number them here and I said, look I mean if you ve got you got a factory, there's like a little my lamotta on the end of our conveyor belt. I just told you how many package's you got that day so

Let me make that thing emboss, this kind of get someone to figure it out. It's gonna work work, so they did you, it would prove so some people have liking or early numbers. Those are number seven go up on Ebay like last year. And I went for like really eight thousand dollar Magdalena. My cousin might have happened, but when I was growing up my cousin on my dad, my dad, Her son had the most extensive. Election of beetles memorabilia like an entire he'd, basically to an entire room in their house and he had so much stuff in my aunt got super religious. All of a sudden was like this is what worshipping a false idle himself, all of it, and then, into this day he certainly keys tried to recreate the collection, but none

he might have had. Madame has would like. Why are you hide some of that shit? You wasn't gonna find out. What are you doing? No, when you were now she's religious, she would find all fine Jesus told me last night that hinder album under your mattresses. Roy was industry experience of the sudden being relish we are tournaments with wings or you don't it's like really have to just me like is that more pressure was it? Did you feel like you're writing. You know who it was a pressure. I could say no, nobody follows the Beatles, so I was conscious of that sort of like the question then was you give up just don't music ordeal of music, so much you ve gotta keep going and that became the answer I just love it's over, and I assure you, saw Johnny Cash on tv with public eyes, you put together thing, it was a false, imprisoned thing and it was

Perkins admired cover my people in his band and I just wall. Johnny's back is come back when I was inspired by sea? Up, like you know, I've gotta go up, I put a band together, so my feeling was too not put together. A big super group uncommon at the level of the riddles, I guess noble a started. Does nothing so I've a start has nothing, That was a tough decision and it was like. I made things difficult for myself, because you know cause people say all their no good. I say we unfortunately gotta goes. Who appear to be no good sure in order to learn how to be good with this band and wants we can do is do stuff like the Beatles did. So I I promoters would go, be crying music. Would you You do want beetle song said. No, We are wings,

do not lay real songs. You know it was only. Later when I became comparable with the success of wings shore, I thought I could not going sums it doesn't matter now, but at first it was very difficult situation but term in a week- We did it. We. We really came from tiny clubs we play. We went round to universities and we just didn't, tell him we were coming. We show open. A van would like just do it would knock on those student union. Thank you. What we call a blame here tomorrow. The guy go, your kids. As we have to come out to the Van Gogh High, where we would play so, we re- he came up from the bottom again? You know really gradually did what we ve done with the Beatles. I just felt for some reason. I have to do that and it was leave years later by seventy six, but we ve,

We could come to America as a fully formed bans. And really play big shows. Gonna know we're doing to learn goes. It was quite oppression, while it's no time and time again, when I hear people who have the same success that it, is about when you down. It's just making it about the work and nothing else. Well, You know, that's the thing I know I'm lucky because the work is play. Yet why won't my work is intense, but in the end Still playing an instrument is still something joyful even if even if it's is argued you played like over and over and over to you here. They'll find new joy and those are not is very strange because you, I wonder about the you know Khazars. Songs that I feel the odious wants to hear. So I include them and they work. You know I do so do ask myself over. Aren't you look at this

I'm gonna, know look at all those words, to be cigarette Elijah's is now phones right, look at all those alive, all those lights in the order of voting rights, forty five, forty thousand lights and using and let it be come on man, gotta. Go with it. You know I'd, so I do and I just just try and single better. All the time just try. Put more meaning in it, more feeling in it. Yet I actually got off, but I do You should really be fed up with this by now You don't seem to locally. You know it as long as they're, not probably into this a million times, and I apologise but did were you guys really gonna all show up at Saturday night live that wonder what happened was I didn't know about. It goes where I was living in England and I came over to visit job and he was living over the utter Dakota, and so I went round to see him, and it was a joyful

seen much of each other and obviously the grown up together. You know and on all this. So is really nice to see him and he's sorry, I live, came on tv suitable, about this thing is a war. You should long Michael's whose, like the produce with this show becomes on each week. And he makes offer offer can't unless we made an offer to the Beatles NBC unfairly. Loan really did go up to embassy pay. Departments have what we ll. Can you give me for the Beatles and they gave him a fee which is standard rate, It was now so that we can give you know two hundred dollars and forty cents or whatever the figure was a Johnson This would be hilarity. So we should go down, is not far universities, Few blocks really is about ten blocks from where he would limit is. Should we should go down so for like TAT, precious minutes, Hu Jia, diamond we would like our come quickly.

We can do as you stay at home and watch the show, and you know how to drink. We elected to do that, which is good really, because it gave me it'll be more precious time with him sure, as as guys but it really happened here. There's just emmon me we're gonna show up while to shove. Say you wanted to see was the two hundred and six c, as I too have you gotta get out swiftly, some hundred who know we'd fire the others. This is that now the new beetles we're gonna, be where the new beetles were actually the half the Beatles of the building elegy you you always that you ve always seem to have a relationship to Carmody too. Well, I love you know like most people, I'd I'd think is growing and pose a great place for humor you grow up. It will allow us funny stuff going on inside

Will you talk about bullies before that? the other way out, you can run or you can be funny. Once you get so many comedians who tell you that I just yoke my way out of it. Man he's got Guys you see in the movies that are on the football team, how the hell out of you, but you go hey that it Anne. Oh, he's, funny, Yeah so Liverpool very funny, because my dad was a funny guy. They just had fully accept and unless I think a lot of it was to do with the horror of the war, of course, and common up after that was like you have it's just a joke to cope in mechanism, Let us how they learn to cope so just say crazy things, you know see you grew up here, this crazy stuff. You know we say about something we wanted to know. Why dad? Why is that? So? He said because there's no has on seagulls chest Ok, all right! It was all we had

millions of those sayings. You know that I now I now remember what was it yeah just yesterday, suppose I take it out of our get stripped you're all next, Would you say that you know sir you're in this atmosphere like silliness, because very likely, youth you where you go, Liverpool is everyone's. Like a joker there, community in general, so we got a broad popular, a name you come don't you, Americans and you see, sort of american sharp wit. I mean I used to see second city of cork in London. They D used to tour to see them and use the think what they re really funny coming here and seeing a scenario We all know that it was only early stuff, you know you do I just love. I mean I was actually over there yesterday Can I know Lord?

What of it up? You have made it. Anybody want a job and comedy see me, you know, and I haven't tube for years now we ve flung out movies is a great guy. Noise over the years and it is just Fascinatingest. I love that scene it is so you do refine there, art yeah, you know through ideas, lonely just shakes his head and it's out. Yes orator. And they're happy. I lover sort of shows. Like those sir, it's a great tradition, and ours too, into Nancy. My wife she's those those wouldn't get on these days. If that was a new show, they wouldn't do now you spend that kind of money on accommodation, right is such a such a tradition that rolls on and be for forty years. There will be. I know people said that they go he pleased

Oh two Largo in LOS Angeles and watch. You know like John Brian or NEO, fascist, holiday and comedy show like common EU logo is the great evening now. You know your lover Did you guys wanna is like? Colonel Munro idolized everything. I just want to make sure that you guys get glided question, as I'm also left handed and play the guitar. All right and I find it impossible to find guitars. Yet I have twenty six now that I've just been because I go I'll, never see that again, left handed will have to get it so when you started playing there like no left handed, you do know less value higher to turn the strings round. They really were no left Anna guitars so I got a right handed and turn the stranger and The problem was opened, the not where you got a little holes. Take the strings beef. They go to the machine. Heads through the other way round so I'd be put my little thin first string in again

home my big fat, the base during wouldn't go in the little her right. So I call them out. So I'd have to carve out was meant for the eastern the little square, and then I had to put poor or much in the end. The other whole sciatica make your way through. Did you ever did so when you? Finally, the first left handed stratagem you got. Was the half base right? Well, no, I mean I that my half no was still right handed scratch plates throne. Why wrong side? So I still was gouged you. Now the dinner was only it's late, as I got an actual left you when they started making realising that there were plenty of people out there, but I used to play the wrong way round eyes to play trial. I gather came as a yeah try to play their own work, but then I saw a picture

of some guy we're magazine and you play lefthanded while it's possible so I turned mine round and then to change the string that zero. As when I saw you at all, you can do. Are you get me a left to? Do Did you ever play temporary secretary live They were all eyes of yours. It's I would love to you know. Are we rush you just talking about doing? Is it I'd love to do that? It was one of those songs that I'd forgotten because you know this arms come and go, and he knows a while ago that I released the album that that was wrong, but tonight somebody said to me: there's a guy in Brighton as a dj in These play the hell out of it it was you who taboo secretary, they gone crazy, like all the clubs, so a guy went round all clubs, so January reawakens it for me. I got this. Is

Let me list student while it's it's an awesome, so yeah I'd have to thank you. I will check to actually showed me years ago. I probably get eight or ten years ago, because I've never heard an end, as my friend Chris Home, is now your love. Curtis is like an old friend of mine. He is like we're just about music and just retirement like weird like tracks at you wouldn't expect from people are where's your son, songs back and forth and then, like he's like here's, one got deputy secretary and spent on my legs. Playlists lichens, it's on heavy rotation. You know it's great, humble sound rediscovering. I like come she can be a neurosurgeon. If she's doing nowhere. I read we're talking about doing. I don't know, I think I can do. We just have to use a sample of funding for the year sequencer. Did I have that civil society? I don't I have another one, but I dont that sequence in it, living in a word. We can recreate,

Yesterday I had when I was in LOS Angeles cigarette. I did last night, but I will buy podcast. Does your parry and so I didn't bring. I didn't. I didn't bring her name up there in the park as they want to be like we know. My guess tomorrow is so we just had that we do the Pike S knee was great here are our production assistant. Kyle was walking him out, Ngos hey so whose who's next the plot catholic cargoes funny. You should ask Parma current goes. We just together. They told us great story that I completely missed out on you guys play together. I think a song that you wrote Forbad finger. He said this run you and Johnny Depp and Joe Perry and Alice Coop and Malice Cooper NEWS, re, yeah works, I know Johnny he's been kind enough to be in a few videos with me. I just really more presented video. Tell me what you want me man. I will know those guys you just there. You know. So I

fell. I owed him warm at least one sure anyone's movies, and we got this project with Alice and they gonna. Like a tribute, no drinking club of great access night here call the Hollywood vampires. So Alice John Ki Moon, crazies, them, who are all dead. Yeah except hours so data this project mood. They just do it with various people and Johnny. Sir, are you come along to my studio was tremendous. We together, so we got a song come and get it, which was a hit. Forbad that I wrote for them and we did the Ngos there. You know so as a great afternoon hanging. These guys whose law reform is gonna come on an album they're making whose tour I forget the good strap on a like.

I've I've, I've forgotten anyway, so forget up it. So Things will women will let you go cause, I'm sure you have the option of others stuff to do than terms of new gas, but damn so point. When you ve seen, I mean you ve seen some of them interesting things at any human being will ever see from your vantage point, very few people ever have vantage point, but you ve oh, you know you ve also seen hardship and you ve seen last and you ve lost people in, but you had great triumphs, and so how does it all? How do you? it all now, when you sort of look back and see like the timeline of Year of your life, is it you know. How does the? How do you pay you perceive it while you know eyes, it's great, I mean. I'm really. I really feel very lucky very fortunate to, as you say, you know, till dawn was done and to still be doing it, I mean that's equally fortunate. You know, but the thing

life is life and people lose people Nobody gets away with their mom and dad staying alive forever. So it's a fact of life. You know so that's happened to me. My mom died when I was like fourteen, so that was like the first mate. The shocking angle, and they lay my dad died in the later Linda, John George, so I seen those kind of- losses in my life. No, but I call so to sit there in a corner and think it's all happening to me because you know you were experience in there. And the older you get the more you will know experiences, so it uses? Somebody said nobody gets out of this one alive baby, that's the truth! You know you just have to live with the best you can I just because it is life because it is what happens to everyone,

then I don't think I'm any kind of special case. So I look at good side of it. I look at all the great things that have happened. And this sure as Hell a lot of them? oh, you would say that you may have hope for the future, I would say that I've got a lot of the future. I think is very task that you did the people don't know you did this on four destiny which is ever played. Have you play dislike it, lady, a bomb, no good, later, I just get mashed right away, By doing I go into this room and all these people start shooting at me advice weaponry and appear to have one little rifle. I dont care when it's good, for you know I mean I didn't do it so that I could play, My grandkids, the ones who play I'd, will try and play an get very soon and then in order

they take over. There think you look like you know who's. He grandfather and I wrote a song. That was a moment when I was very cool. Believe me otherwise, I'm not really very big. Like you know, it's like I'm writing a song in the corner and be dad. Did you stop to know this like this could be important. I'm gonna watch tv, but ok, not gonna slope, off into toilets acoustic, so much better there anyway, I can lock the door, but now, you know it's. His great stuff is really good right. Never destiny is a good game unites. Doing well, on the thing for me was you know that I was very conscious that it would be reaching Well, I wouldn't normally reach yet to be reached. People who might not listen to my music it was. I ramming get down their throats.

Then get away, and I want to put a written funny man importantly right in your head and knows how to use it, to have that you're not be able to get away, and this is ok, we don't wash the credits anyway. That is less well. This has been amazing and I mean thank you so much for you gave us a lot of time in a real good. Now I'll be opiate a nice idea. You know it's good issues like sitting around. Hang you with the guys. Fourthly, I gotta do some other stuff, so you know for the future. That's what I say for the future and then we we sign off our podcast by we have a saying which essentially means don't live in the future of the past just enjoy the present, as is happening. If you like, that's very hard to remember all out of it, so we tell people enjoy your burrito, why we would all be tremendously honoured if you would sign off the pod cast forest by inviting people too

their burrito. Would you mind if I do the hay folks Enjoy your burrito perfect, stick the landing! Well Good veggie. Ok! The time you were at least partly Father, Monaco gave law you're in the band now, leaving noticed dot com. Enjoy your burrito.