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Sir Patrick Stewart #3

2016-04-15
Sir Patrick Stewart just can't get enough of the Nerdist Podcast! He talks to Chris and Matt about how the knighting process works, filming his second season of Blunt Talk and his first job writing for a newspaper. He then talks about auctioning off all his Star Trek scripts and the battle to get one of his Captain Jean-Luc Picard uniforms. Sir Patrick talks about his new movie Green Room, how scared he was reading the script and his work with the charities Refuge and Combat Stress. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
This is an unofficial transcript meant for reference. Accuracy is not guaranteed.
Walk in. There is progress, number seven. Ninety nine is absolutely Patrick Stuart, going to talk about the second, but Katie's got some noticed green into court board business yet so prevents any who is I'm comedy of owners and he is awesome. He has a kickstarter. For a new graphic novel that he is trying to write. It's called love. Go and far away and is under illegal. Something that is completely up the alley of Oliver Listeners and, if you know cause he's great, so you can find it on Kickstarter. Com in searching long ago and far away, and also- We have a new pike ass part of nerdy sports. It's called puck soup, its with great wish and ski and Dave Lazo, and it's all, and I shall based but also talking to people about as other sports and and pop culture and what not. So it's not about the cast member
world San Francisco relies programmers man re orally in a similar line, and I think that because he was a bad boy, I know that you like pictures, but I want to feel real old reference. The real world, the young, open maker, you can't just a blank look at this, but I know I know mobile, I mean there's we will observe yet there are things that make me feel like I'm fuckin K, earth one or one living in one direction universally, only the fact that they played depend mode. Another man's you like on care. When one has lowered, they play Fucking, Nevada, uncared, one alone, exalted hang all over them all. They became a rock, they organise Iraq because because I mean, if you think about it, the in the eighties Nineteen, eighty six if they play music from nineteen sixty one that would have been like that, would have felt like Joe.
Regions ago, yes, so that the authorities, anyway. Time is a forward moving train and we can never stop, and I were all promised it was a flat circle, but we just keep moving forward. No Kyle the earth is flat. You want Now I see how it is really I'm just may mighty honour I. What do you got? There ok, I got a tissue ballerina made a website called behind the car cartoons or beyond the cartoons, dot com, and it It's all about looking at the people who make cartoon sitting in this room, Chris, you seem to be a bit of an ant, nation, but what would your arranged in Vienna Original Warner Brothers, art on the wall? Here I have some. I also have some original John K, drawings and some original. Yet this website is real cool and ADA. Part of my opinion yesterday, when I was mostly were because it's full of amazing interviews with with not just voice ACT, has been animators like timing people at all
who's going to making cartoons done like I was always I did. I tell you. I think that all this I stood in line at wonder kind of two years ago to get to get Ralph backs you to say Then I realized I feel, like you know what a crazy Ralph back she values and any time you can bring this up. You throw it at me because, I'm so jealous. I do I like to throw a right it, your washing amazing yeah. I mean if, if you guys renovation button, watch, the mighty mouse. The back she deal with John K was one of the directors. This is actually crossing over as part of the drinking game. On my ipod gas, this red words, ticketing, everytime, Kyle References, Ralph back she or the new adventures of mighty men. They think as I've been playing animal crossing and you can, you can create a mule character. Basically, when you start getting too much stuff, you can create a second characters, are holding all of your about wheat, and so I created this The little girl was spiky hair and I named her back she ah nice, very cool, so Is it
I mean I gave you my storming bets, gaiety, clutched or checks and Katy is going to beat you up and take your lunch money, but I'm gonna put my glasses and say: I think, that's cool. This episode is Patrick Stuart and he just couldn't be a better human being best. Man is we. This was a wonderful job. We're going get into an a, but I want to tell you it is the third time he's been onto this move. Called the Green Room and he's promote, ensure is which opens Coastal II on the fifteen in April and opens nationwide on the twenty. Ninth guys go, see it it's a super fucked up. It is complex. Number one movie the year, thus far, it's incredible its brutal. It there's nothing else like it. That exists it's great. So it's it's superintends and is essential we talk about the past, but it said the ban plays gig.
Doesn't go well, things go sideways and ship goes down. I woke up in the way the grail, tents, it's so fucking, yeah yeah, so highly recommended called green room. Blunt talk as though is this Patrick show. They have been ours, a another of these working on the progress owing to shut up navigated can cite this Katy role. The thing for ever. For seven. Ninety, nine of an artist bycatch, Sir Patrick Stewart. Entering Nerdist STAR Com We are in the middle shooting the last couple of episodes of my seconds he's my series, so there
generously somehow managed to high, has gone well, come back, saying, where have intervened, to conceal, whereas it is our new podcast room as it must, I mean the brand new you're, like the second person. Aren't you get? Oh I'm this, oh yeah, the fur now. I know my light and said I was the first because I could have done that. Gave a thrones be yesterday, but really but fuck em, you're here and say that officially or sufficient with here for girls, Roans doesn't count it out. It doesn't count successful it's far too. It's the most successful show in the world. I mean it's one of them. It's one of them told it is that it signals in walking dead. Game with roads are used to like it'll. Just now it was kind of a game Not only the only sure bigger than international atop you're really get up here is like eight hundred million people watch that What are you watch? What are you watch very little
really? Yes, my I watch a lot of sport in my day, was ruined yesterday, after a brilliant dive, for we were foaming out a malibu on the beach than up in the mountains, and I got to where air of uniform and dragon got to where wet suits. All this is all in the space of one day bus my plan was drive home, and then I would say down with you. One or two, I had a soccer match recorded that it played in the day in the UK, very important soccer match what happened no service about among service through tried everything I knew it's it's astonishing. I have more. I t disasters in LOS Angeles than anywhere else. I mean a lot of the time, My cell phone doesn't work on, there's no service wifi and
doesn't work are the studio in air. You know this is the heartland of the entertainment business they ought to get there together. Are you telling are you? your knighted and you're telling me that the crown doesn't provide some sort of direct royal access to soccer matches and cricket games. Well, they probably who provide a service, but is more likely to be halted sing, Fox or dog, show just your child God, no member whatever for the funding of dress, not my idea where speculative, oh, it's corbies, again Gordy! It's about, you would think. Would you I mean. I did expect that when the night came along there would be bonuses, perks, big they tabular shouldered, say guesswork yeah did anyone come with it a plateau?
therefore, a beautiful ribbon with a needle on it. Yes, but not like you, can beat anyone up in part. It's ok kind of with no no nothing despite the fact that there is a sword involved in the process and is still consider into the way day. I dont know where that sword came from. I was there two of us being united on that damn we were the first up. There it's an order of precedence over a hundred awards being given that day and her majesty was on her feet. For over an hour a day, six years old spoke to every single person, a brief conversation. You know I'm not allowed to tell you, because you do not repeat I've got some news items cookies, they're, all the record, but I didn't see the Mai, the man before me, going through the process. If we had had a rehearsal earlier you actually rehearsed Zactly. What you do
involve walking backwards? Some points, ok and That was her majesty. I was now kneeling down, evade very sensible piece of furniture but it has a handrail of lies very though that you can leave yourself up down if your very own desire than that's a useful addition the. This issue was running around man, smiling sweetly and then all of a sudden she had this damned sword, and I had an I I don't know where it came from Africa. I had a closer view of what was going on than anyone else. I did see the process, because she touches right shoulder first, that cheap here is a sword and I'm sorry listeners. You can't see what I'm doing, but my palms. Turned down. Yes, she touch one showed with that that as it so when, over my head, she turned her
wrist. So the other side touching on the shoulder and interesting but entirely boring, subject to know it's back its first exhibit I like to think that I forgot to listen. That have benighted up to now, but everyone else? Finally, something for me. Well that would be Sub rankings laser Marianna because they were all listening now. Of course you have you, did they talk about their knighthood Mc Helen, said the queen that the queen said to him or her go a wink. We cannot manage dead fantasies I didn't say that
I noticed by the parasol that you just posted on your twitter account like yesterday or the day before your deepen season. Two of blunt talk almost concluded. We have my have five more shooting days and we have done with seas to my unbelievable, how fast it is gone, and if I were to tell you that today, when we were shooting, as I think I just mentioned, I wore five radically different costume at different times during the day. You will appreciate that having some fun? That's great! It's lazy! Ever job! That's really five minutes, but you know just a little takes a little bit of time and then you're down, oh well, But it's I'm I'm side filling a wheat was it takes you to seize and like a week to shoot seasoning with twelve to fourteen weeks. We do, and oh epoch episodes only half an hour long, so we shoot every forty
days, we shoot to episodes yeah, I mean where you were you mentally ill prepared to play. Walter. For this long I mean when you first started. It just seems where, were you start to show, and you think why don't we just gonna go or not, and then all of a sudden you find yourself two or three seasons deep now you're that guy, that's true where we hope that it would be like that we have now done too seems. I, get away. I've been preparing all my life to play Walter, I'm not lifestyle, because his is so very modest and boring convey my eyes yes, but I started this is not something that is generally well known, but my very first job only we school was working on a newspaper. I was a cub report. Really on my local by over your covering births, deaths judges. Essentially they wouldn't. Let me
if anything important happening, we had a little district and which included the where I live my home and I got All the boring self obey venting exciting happened that one of the senior reporters would immediately swoop into my territory and take over and I was dishonest to I made things up what announcements? No but I'll tell you about death. I mean it's. It was this scientist I grew up in which was a working class blue collar society. People who lived. Innovations in this same little, part of the north of England. Damn. It was customary. When there was a death in a family, that somebody called to pay their respects or my case, a journalist who showed up to ask a few delicate question about the disease that day
I for one husband or parent. Whoever would say to me- and I will attempt to do the accident of my youth at say Would you like to have a look at him? Love looks real grand oh, he does as our lovely. While there was one day when I saw three corpses in a morning- and I went back to then the newspaper office in the reporters Roman that this about it is said to me what's wrong, Patrick, you seem down- and I said, dammit yes, you know I had this job, it's getting me. Don't I we had to stand over three coffins oh, you don't have to do you know you're not expected, I said, but they are school you and he said no, here's what you
and we also something I recently had a death in my own family and I think it might be a little upsetting if I were to see another. Would you mind if I didn't after that? That's what I did. That's it no more corpses. Hopefully all those able didn't talk and where its higher that person died in your family every week for, like two years at steward, boys really has been a lot of death and his family. The line it another thing, and it was because I am by the time I was fifty and I was heavily involved with amateur Seattle. As part of England I come from. It was not thought grotesque, or unusual, or fancy or show off to be a performer everybody sang recited, danced were empty, is in bands inquires. I was in the car. As well as best as doing amateur acting. Nobody thought that you were
Four, until weird or a show off, and I was working with five different amateur companies. At the I'm time so rehearsals will complicate, because we can only, whereas in the evening, when you're, an amateur group and journalists work in the evening, they have to it council meetings and so forth, all kinds of things come up, so when that happened. It clashed with a rehearsal. I would first of all try to get somebody to cover for me to do job instead of me, then I would arrange to have somebody who was there make notes for me at all I would have somebody on the end of the telephone. I could talk to afterwards or I made it up Well that didn't go on for too long, because our go found out. They do, of course, and I got found out in the following way: one night, was
It was a little. It was a small town, Alyssa population of eleven thousand, but we had a council town council. I was to attend one of the meetings of the town council, but I had a ass, so I didn't go, I gotta somebody else to cover for me and as it happened, there was the biggest fire broke out. In the history of my town, in the building, almost next door to the council offices, where the meeting was happening this broke and immediately the additive other day said or where we don't have to worry we're. Patrick is right there right on this point. We can cover it all right, we're fine, but not true. I was elsewhere. And when I was so what about the fire fire? What was on fire? that was found out, and I was hauled in front of the the editor at owner editor of the newspaper and given an option which was
either you give up this stupid amateur theatricals and you become what you were employed to be a full time, journalist or you better get off this newspaper. And I went upstairs the reporters Roman packed up my typewriter, even though my best friend on the paper saying don't do this. Don't do this now you'll make it didn't really mean it out now don't go, you'll never get another job. I had no education. I went to her. A school was not academic scholarly. I was very lucky to get the job and he was right. I would never get another job like that slots, son, It happened to me in his office and I went home and my amendment this your backing away, and I said yes, I've left. I have given up the job and cheese. Oh love, what you're going to do- and I said I'm gonna- be an actor and what she calls that totally cool. Yes, that's those my parents where they were amazing? What I didn't know at the time- and it was
several years for that five years, late that. I found out that I was not the first actor in my family that my father's father had been an actor as well as being the black sheep of the family, which is why I didn't know he was never talk about. He had deserted his wife, my father's mother and fortune. And gone off to be an actor somewhere in the low, more intense and leaving a newspaper, much what character as you know have it. You didn't know him at all, no it's possible because he and he escaped to the United States as many did and others who didn't want to come to the United States came as well but William stood came here. We know that certain and doing the calculations. It is very probable that William Stewart was living and working in the United States. The first time I came here my grandfather about. I never meant, of course, I'd love to have done I'll. Tell you a little story about him play all this came out. When,
going on a long oversees tour, fifty mondetour, but the old waken, the company led by Vivian Lee beautiful. Brilliant actress and my her mother was very old. So I made a serious journeyed to spend some time with her, because I thought I might not see her again and that was when I learnt all this about my grandfather about Her- has ex husband and I M one of the things it actually shall I tell you about the last time we we ever heard from him. I said yes, peace well appearing on stage at the centre of the Elephant Castle and South London, a theatre that was bombed during the war, doesn't exist. Anymore and complaints have been made to the police in the family had been deserted. This was an offence in those days. Because they had to pay maintenance and even paying no maintenance. So they found him and they I went to the door and they they found this guy.
In the wings waiting to make an entrance play that he was in and a two policemen, and he said Look. I of course I'll come with you here. This is this it off this terrible. But just let me finish this one I got in the play and then we can go otherwise. You know the whole evening will be ruined for the Olean, so they agreed to it. He went on he played this evening and he exited the other side, and was never seen again, There is no use to the new needs of the row he hit his head on the war. I lean back, I'm not used to having a wall right here is something we have to look out for and yet is one that you guys around the finds out of it. That's an credit incredible and just like that, didn't come back to get paid anything. Nothing left I mean he knew that they, you know the chips are down it was in trouble and he
the United States and but what he did here. We don't know. I know that his one of his sons also came to the United States and was sent living in Detroit. The first time I came in, I worked in Detroit in nineteen sixty nine and it's very possible, my my uncle, also called William, was living and try to assess that there's a whole other line of stuarts, maybe that they had no my uncle now actually had had a business. You always found out when did. The television show in England called who do you think you are wonderful show, and I found this out then that there was that there was an american. He became a citizen which I have not still no, no, after all these years and years and years and the most frustrating part for me, I I have real. I could become a dual citizen church that there's no problem, but that I could retain my british passport.
But I do have a very strong feeling about being british, of course, and- and I feel that if I had a secondary citizenship, not as though I was british born to While I was my parents were in America. Anything like that. I chose to take on a dual citizenship, so I I've done it. I am a resident alien welcome that usually gets a laugh when this guy Didn't because, obviously you don't know what I'm referring to, I was about to make it like a Rigel, seven joke or data that would that would have been exit. Matt MAC can tell you. Everything on the deck of the unceasing seventeen o Wendy everything He can tell you is deck. He can tell you every DEC on the number of my ship was that the number of your ship. I didn't lasted in seven really them you- may be interested to hear that I am selling my script archive. Am I being auction this summer? Francs just did that
existed. It I'm sound. You just heard was met popping a boner. Now me thinking. Ok, if I can pay for the item- for my wife or Pereira honey. The scripture me like our baby. It's a real they'll. Tell better stories. Can I just? How are you doing? How are you selling this archive and what's what are the details of that? There will be, I think, release of some kind sigh, I shouldn't say too much, but no let I now there There were two hundred and seventy eight episodes of slaughtering the next generation. These right about that, Seventy eights scripts doesnt began to touch it because there were many draughts of a script and largely I have the draft as well, and I have all the pages that you know the different colored pages that come out during production, and I saved the course
Oh my god. Each episode is contained little history of that episode, the draft rewrites call sheets and so forth, and my own question was: should I sell this script by script? One at the time. Let people choose what script that like to own, or, as I if some of my colleagues have done page by page, but I've been advised now there are serious collectors out there who would want the whole thing what episode would you want to get whatever said? Would you want? Maybe I've gotta duplicate that I could I will buy it for you. I will buy it for you. I think. See. Now you gotta, think of whose make it now that you ve got your thinking, make it now. Aren't you
No one is thinking that you make him ass, a little red rouser you out what about family would be great family. I deny hands this morning, the pile of family scripts in a landscape, inner light. Everyone says in so good think an appeal for the well what's this race thus having its in June, the ultra. I will watch and what's the one where a Beverly crusher hooked up with a ghost on that basis that several European Rosa eyebrows, I have known what separates us, what it is also- and I thought you were gonna say when public Russia hooked up with a goat formulas goes. It goes up earlier. There's a go, there's a goat, you guys go down and the planet was where they go to tools. The planet was like an irish colony. Oh
I remember I do remember them very. There was a wonderful English Acta bury bury you. May he rest in peace because he's gone and he played the leader of this alien race but they all spoke like tinkered God for it is in their parliaments, may not have been so direct. The next generation of great is the news of this option. Is, is epic I think obscured ray I'm so sorry, burying varying along here was the name of the actor may rest in peace that is spent tat. Is better timescale, disorienting irrelevant it? Couldn't you won't timescale, Timescale out why I saw that yesterday? If you
tat, if you, if you have a timescale, collection, I'd I'd, buy it format as the present, because he and his his wife are trying to conceive a child through science at the moment, so the celebration of new life, I would, I would get you the time they want to make a little Wesley. You know we're dislike. I call I texted west. I texted world. We would give it he was working today.
He said he said he was very sorry. He couldn't be here, but I want to die. I want to have him here and sit in a word. I love the last time. I try to make sure it has been very much. That is a beard by do remember the last, not necessarily assign a mature. Why, as you heard- and I think I think the last time you are here I'd, the same thing happened, he was out of town and I go. I tried to get, will weaken the come on the progress made at work and you said something like well fuck him rather round about. You also said one of my favorite things ever which we didn't, which didn't make the pod cask as the MIKE didn't pick it up. But I have we took a picture where I this dumb derby and a moustache, and I told you that when in Macao was on. I was gonna. Do this thing where I took a picture with him with that and then, when you showed up I was like he's a more serious than I expected, so I'm not going to do this
I showed it to you and when I put the mustache you go, you look like fucking Hitler. And the microphone didn't pick it up. But I was one of my favorite things, my favorite Joe, well. You remember it, and that makes me all warm and fuzzy inside. I was I'm glad I first segment that you're gonna go. You do look like What what else you got the archives you might be selling besides scripts. You have anything else. There they're gonna be some other interesting and, as they say in the art world important pieces, I almost a year at the computer that you had on your desk in insurrection. Up on Ebay for a little while and I almost bought it running, someone got a yak and bring myself to it. Wasn't a real computer, of course. Not
I mean I have been asked, you believe ominous and what was it like travelling in the enterprise Nancy? Actually, what was involved was it. You walked on stage nine paramount fiction that thing never went anywhere at all is just all make will just sets, but then, on the other hand, you know when you had the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of staff, say captain, may I sit in your chair, you Adam or run you know, secretaries of state, or indeed one president's asked. May I sit in the chair Did you say yes of us? Of course? Yes, with great respect, and after all this, I'm surprised that someone didn't just say it. Like have a citizenship here, go. You know that that is what you saw yeah. You know that the raw
because I was allowed to call him Ronnie, Hey Pat Reagan as to sit in the chair. Yeah, that's crazy, we'll take resolve here. Fire. The fees is set the dragon impersonated well answers for this Now is the time to do that. That is not the president. I would have expected to want to sit in the cap and shares lovely. He wasn't, but of course he was an actor. Nobody was you know that you see there you go you. People have the impression that we are acting all the time that you don't get the real thing, It is not me, are you serious? Are you a hologram? This is a version of this is
just for your. I appreciate that I got another show different, but totally different Conan ask questions. I don't ever this I kiss I kissed continent. We did possibly get idea on the mouth. Soft off, kisser extended extended. I didn't kind of get there's been irish lips, though he's gotta he's got here was he was up for it. I have great respect for I'm gonna get their booty tax from Conan, hey. What's up with you up a register, you up We are I almost kissed Conan. We had a we really where there is. We are eating past or something on the show, and so I took the other end of the past of the lady in the tramp style, but it broke right before the meaningful, very meaningful. Yeah, I can see no racks. I could see them all
in his eyes of a really good. I hope we get information about this auction. Very soon, did you say away with some stuff from. Taking one item I did, and it was largely done as a protest, because actually Conan, also figures in this little anecdote too. I others just took things including uniforms and mention no names at all. Sir will learn. No, I thought that letter exact science, ass love you're too,
I don't like those guys did they wouldn't, but so what I did was I went to the production office and I spoke to our line producer, lose a person in charge of the budgeting and so forth, and, I said, look I would like to buy one of my uniforms now I've been over to the border department and they have told me what it cost to make each uniform and that my uniform is no different. The others I'd like by one. They said oh well come laughter when it would have to take that higher up with doubled over the answer. Came back. No. What? No you can't you gonna happen, then you know. So, I didn't take one, but I did on the very last day we worked. I did take my communicator off because it was just a convent velcro. I was, I know now that he's velcro lebanese about sorrowfully. Yeah right
century well, we'll have to care for our matter different. That's basher, asperity! Ok, I have it still. Nowhere. It is, but it is promised afraid and scientists? It won't be part? Actually it might, but I did promise it to the Archbishop of York, hovel The arts recently York has some cash components and not just you, that's not mister. I dont think, minister. Of the church of England. Are that well paid? I mean even if yards was he's number two in the Anglican higher number two seems like Ass brown, we're getting a little bit, but I went over. I took my american wife to York. Do you see the city because it's a great many evil city and a great many of our minister, and the chap who is taking is wrong, said the you know that
knows you're in town, and he wondered if you'd like to go over to the palace and have tea with him an absolutely. This is Johnson movies. Wonderful men and we went over well, it didn't take long before he was saying and in pursued in life. I thought my along with your German of joint Jesus now from presidents and so forth, and secretaries of state There is now an archbishop of your cursor, attracting that's, not bad, for and who started out making up stories on his newspaper its ending at the moment, happily good. That it's so funny, but they wouldn't give your uniform there are so cheap with those units. Oh I didn't finish the sorry. The covenant part of the story gonna help it colonel rise up in deep shit. When I was on his shirt, said so, just as you asked, so you must have all kinds of rebellion, Yonah captains Uniform and for pets
and a phase Erin. I said no, I have nothing, didn't tell them about the communicator, I've, nothing and said so. I told him I'd offered to bind it wouldn't. Let me see, as disgrace, such shocking eighteen months or so pause another project. Is in the wind and I go on the show again and he said oh by the way I got something for you and outcomes, one of his assistance carrying my uniform, my captain, Uniform Monaco tangled said it's yours and I said he said we call them up, and we shame them into giving you on this is that was just sitting in a room just sitting in the room like the end of raiders at the last hour and a half the archives, Do I have everything and they are selling solve all the paramount had a big say a few years ago of which included a loss of star trek memorabilia. I am told that the model which was
Yet in this room that does the fly, buys you know I'll Amelia was actually bought by bill gates. Are that's not surprising, I wonder what is paid for it, not enough getting like giving goods north of a million that zone. I think area labour think it went for six hundred thousand, certainly like to grab of all I think you could look it up, but the and the flute firm inner light life. That's all there was. The preoccupations was like. Five hundred to twenty five hundred? I have to tell you a little anecdote about the bad side of me. I got a, Somebody said to me: I have a friend he bore the flute from inner lies at an auction and he spent a huge amount of money on this and it comes in a little presentation box and all of that I was working on broad when he was coming to see the play. Could he come back stage and would you mind signing the box with a nice. It
that's great, I might even you know, give him a note to cause. It actually played. Oh, no, I didn't know the one that I played, which I did play was was real that that didn't play so eager witnessing an I'm sign. As I'm signing, I said you know by the way. Don't you therefore others of these? pop up up up up up up up up. Did you did you haven't you Someone take a picture the moment. You said that you capture expression how long did you let em peddler and you let him go or not, That's amazing, so funny way it's when it's I'm sorry. It's like. I bought the Mona LISA. Oh by the way, there are several other, oh no, you bought the fourth one, there's other really great went forth when he was really going to really gotta yeah. They were getting it right, but the uniforms like they when they went to make the movie women
my generation there was the switch over to the deep space nine uniform and while there is the biggest switch over the defects, ninety red on the top and the black on the bottom, which is then that the code sort of one when they did was they were looking through with a budget of ok, it's like us this much so they just guy they just measured, Brent and Patrick for uniforms. That's so like, if you watch the movie and you watch francs, he's wearing he's during every Brooks as uniform are mayonnaise, uniform and break as the sleeves like rolled up causes arctic somebody, looks like you swimming in the uniform because they wouldn't like it just measured bees, having people in the gas measure them like a uniform,
I know that I love you, I love people. Couldn't I love how hard you are laughing it? That story? That's amazing bathing! It's that that you get to that level and you're making a movie. They don't just go. Maybe less just make a. For the new uniforms. They are part of the Bible budget. Some your drove like data Picard. You get uniforms of burial seriously. You could pick for these are not intricate costumes. It's a jungle known for jobs and are not paying for that's ridiculous. I wouldn't Gunnar was able to keep anything from the original series, I'm she must have he's up ass? The thing about Jenner: it's is they made them right the horse seen in with Patrick and generations and then he turned around. It was like. Ok, I have to get these horses. The rent them for me, oh, is that true, but but know you do know what we were wearing on and and seen. You must have heard this now. This is,
bill, who is a horseman environment? I ride, and there is a huge world of difference between those two. Events and he said to me the depth of Patrick. I just thought I'd give you a little waters for I can't whose voice I'm sure you can, but he said we gotta be we're gonna, be in the saddle. Long periods tomorrow, quite long seamen, there's an early. Many takes himself. How can I make a suggestion if you were pantyhose underneath your trousers, you, you won't get blisters and row raw Rob Roy Install, so next time you watch that see just how close your eyes, not about the two captains up up up wearing grandiose elderly unit, absorbed idea that by the way,
I watch green room, the other night, and it's really disturbing in in a great way. It's a group, a really fucked up, Intimate- and I M just not something I've seen you do before, but your group, your great in it, and it's a bit the movies super messed up. It is its it scares me. I mean I'm going to see tonight and my wife has agreed to come with me, although, when it was screen for us in London, ten o clock on a Monday morning, not the greatest I'd be was a best over that suffer through. Yeah me Sonny, my London agents and who did sit through large bits of it with his head in his hands. Like this occasion he groaned, oh, it wasn't even think the movie was wonderful. Does he did, but it was just upsetting him. My wife left
she said, I'm sorry, I can't she never like to know what it is. I'm working on. She doesn't like to know the stories or she doesn't want to hear necessarily anecdotes about the stories or see photographs and so forth she likes ago, and it's all new or fresh She got left his left, whose roof screening Roman walked around so her for ten minutes and then came back in and sat down a watch another half an hour and then said, I'm really sorry, I am, I can't I can't take it. I didn't know it, I didn't know the movies about when I watch it so was great going into it. But it's the the pitch of it is essential. If you want to tell people to pitch, is a basic band performs that a venue, that's secluded and then shit go sideways? a punk broadband young young people there on a tour over on the West Coast. There DC based
and the tour has not gone well that they have no money. There broke their siphoning petrol out of other people's cars in order to try to get back to DC. I am a friend of a friend says: hey, I think, there's a gig you could do in, and so they end up in this backwoods. Mountain music venue, and they ve already been tipped off. It's sort of kind of skin Eddie, and you know all of this and they got boss. They're gonna be paid three hundred and fifty dollars in cash, and that's it that's the petrol and They do the gig. It's the audience is scary. It's all these crazy shaved, headed guys with swastikas everywhere skulls and things there are about to leave the van is all packed up and are ready to go, and then what-
them realises, he's forgotten something in the green room and he goes back and Nothing will ever be the same again, Alicia shock at now, your honey, I haven't highly a giant John Yeltsin image inputs may come, make on Blair, who is, of course in Germany, as other movie, yellow ruin and was so brilliant in that what was the Both the significance of the Red Laces the Red Laces, when people say the movie they'll know it, though I do have a shoe with regulations, checking to see that requirement. The red light since denote members of this White Supremacist Brotherhood, of which my character is the head, the rider that they are, they belong to an end,
a girl. So it's just like that. It's just like Aspasia, higher right and right, Romania, and and- and so when I say at one point to my team- ok and I want regulations on you'd want the elite dear. I want them best guys and the best of the best and the worst Adam. Well, bad things happen, and it's it's very. I warn you it's disk, What did you think when you first read the script? Did you it was it to tell you what happened. I have told this several times, so this is not original, but I was at the time in my house in Oxford, show, which is remote. It's kind of very, very private, no other has around deepened bucolic english country, I'd and this gripped, came in and e mail as they do these days, and my policy is. If I get a pretty good idea not something I'm gonna want to do our read all the way through. I just read it on my screen. I dont
yeah. I know even their volume and I'm saving paper. If it's something, think he's gonna be really interesting, outbreak dry printed, the script and sat this evening alone in the house to read, isn't about page thirty, I closed the script and put it I went all around my house checking all doors rulers those will not put on the perimeter lights of the whole project and I put on the the state security. Program my security system and I put a fucking huge class Scott. And I was only thirty thirty five pages into ninety five page script, homelike and then I went back, and I finish the script and the next night. A copy of blue ruin arrived and it had exactly the same impact on missile combination of Germany's extraordinary writing and his directing the way that he had directed
they can plan in blue ruin. It was a no brainer, so I picked up the phone call him and there we were. That's got to five. Five days later, I got on a plane for portal. That sort what's so great about it is that you don't have to do stuff like that. I mean you know you're in these mass. Ten pull franchise movies and you're on you're a series of than the second see then, and you noticed the idea like going to go to the small, though budge intimate thriller, fucked up, horror, movie its everything, and so many actors I know, would agree with me that it is often right there, where the deepest satisfactions come, where the most interesting experience as I had when you're not surrounded by a multi Multi million dollar mega less hit shirt
were you sometimes sometimes do feel? I really am just a little cog in this whole process. I feel that certainly not working with Brian sing it when we were doing them. What was that's franchise cuttings collects meant. It was called element that I knew called marvels Box property one. They haven't gotten back at me up room where the views which all so I wonder, what kind of scotch does a Patrick's Europe or for himself. I I mostly drink, really good quality, blended with in a way single malt is a little bit wasted on me because I don't drink it meets. I usually get with clubs just cut Oda, an ice and no lemon. Like you people now I don't I don't lemon and showed
I wanted to see how long you would grumble about written this these motherfuckers over here I mean really white. Bill. Shatner was right there. What ever you said, I am I drink Travis. An eighteen year old, shiver, sound legal that was extraordinary Yasser and besides, when you asked for it. Bartenders in the United States recognise the name. You know you. For something like logger, voluntary labelling right you. Why why? it's a on the rocks. It's easy, I mean, what's it, how do you fight the urge that the basic human urge to become bull. You know like once you succeed in your surround you're, not as United hungry anymore. So how do you fight the urge to go
I'm comfortable. I too want to leave my nice house and just kind of state like how do you? How do you keep taking? chances and keep pushing yourself and keep taking risks because no matter how nice the houses, the environment. I am always starving. Like creatively, so the hunger doesn't go away and and and curiosity I, this is gonna- be an exciting year for me, because I have three pieces of work. That's all Apart from the ongoing family guy in America, which is just a if a little bit of trimming bonus S Macfarlane dressing on my life, my career, I have I have my second seized my series. I have a very big movie, beginning into Easter. And and then I have six months on stage with the aforementioned, so in all hats? Fantastic? What Can you tell us what the movie is a no no damage kip rhyme with toy, rather sorry,
I mean rhymes with the Bavarian. I don't know what you mean. I don't know if I would dementias or talk about it. I got home in an hour or two. That would be somebody on the doorstep, waiting for waiting for you probably approach we're waiting down there. That's what you just put the perimeter lights on and put the states you're totally wisely, but what are you doing with within? we're, reviving a production that we did on Broadway able to three years ago. We did a double, though we did waiting forgot outright. Four nights a week and we did Harold pincers great masterpiece a fortnight. Why do I keep calling for might come? That's nothing to do with our open too, no man's land is the play and we did on Broadway very successfully and we promised ourselves because it's a very, very not just an display its a London play and so many references in the script out a lumber and it
don't know the references as a certain amount of pleasure you get out of that. You won't have And it was a little like that on Broadway, marvellous though the audiences weren't they enjoyed the play, but He promised ourselves dammit. We must do this in London. So here we are on the threshold we sought. Pressing appropriately on the fourth of July and we're doing a five weak provincial followed by fourteen weeks season in London, oh my cache, etc. That fires at five nights a week or just eight performances we ate, perform six nights a week to matter it is: oh, my gosh if you live changes its very different from now, when my my day begins at about help us five in the morning, while haha four in the morning, and then I get picked up at five thirty and hopefully I'm home in the early evening just in time to and some more lines and go to bed where's, your brain,
seven of a fourteen weak run, railroad. Ok, we ve done this island terms. It is just a little trick. That's all I'll! Give you an anecdote to illustrate the trick. I did a production of what I have always believed The great american play is Edward, always whose afraid of Virginia Wolf, which was films, has spectacularly Richard Burton and Elizabeth talent, and when I did it do the it's a long way it's for axe and that you just play runs well over three hours, two and one slash two hours and there are only four characters in it. So there's a lot of talking in the play begins with Martha and George the people who owned
property where they actually takes place arriving home after a dinner party, and then the play goes on for the rest of the night, and I ask the sage management that that look the carpenter shop if they would put a practical lock on the door so that, in order to begin the play, I had to put an actual key into an actual lock and turn it opened the door and then Martha would say. However, line Jesus H. Christ is the first line of the play and we're under way so standing behind the door. I did this with the brilliant, wonderful american actress, Mercedes rule, all that Mercedes and I knew as we stood behind that door in the house. Lights went down and some little music began and then the curtain went up was all we have to do is to open this door and we don't know anything else. Everything else is
on them for the next two and a half hours cat, I'm making any said, yeah, yeah you're basically say no, no it because your base it sounds like you're basically saying you learn. Breathing, and then you forget it. So it can be a fresh experience each time, an actual tactile experience of turning a lock is the is the opening of this new. Thing see. That's why you keep it knew every night exactly it, because it has never happened before another, those who, when I was about twelve, I was allowed go to a theatre performance on my own, my local refugees, their professional and I went to imagine I am I saw this and I was inch thrill Transported out of myself, I didn't like my life growing up very much
but sitting there, I'm watching this other world on the stage I was enchanted. I came out of the theatre and they did a strange get did like five o clock. Eight o clock shows on a Saturday night, seen the five o clock. True, there was a queue of people queuing to go in And I didn't understand what they were going to see because I just seen it- and this is now, if I know and child while I was a child, I could not get my head around that. What I have just seen could possibly be repeated again here, and so I think of that a lot when, when I'm doing runs so
my first line in the play I'm doing with city and in in and later in the year is as it is, is the first thing I say because I'm pouring drinks as it is- and he says: oh yes as it is, and then I say chairs, and then he talked for a long time and you know it's again the same thing: I've got a glass in my hand and we get standby curtain going up and all I know I have to do is poor drink and nothing else. There's some fucked up that no it. Actually. It kind of makes it seem like the stand why it would be fun every night when you creating a servant of before it's never happened before each time and so and even believes in the same philosophy very strongly. So it means
whereas we were waiting for gotta when the two of us never left the stage for the home to have, as that, we can trust the other actor. To also be hopefully living in the moment at Indians case, not hopefully he is and that everything is spontaneous and and happening as if the first and that's how you get an audience. Audiences, no, and articulated they don't know how to describe it, but they cause I've had it in the I'm sure you all have you're sitting there and you begin to believe that actually you're looking through a power into somebody's life or room, and it's really happening why people sometimes get very upset in the theater, because it seems to be so truthful and- and there are times
what someplace I mean when I remember when I saw the great production of them August, sausage, county that came down from Chicago to two broadway and then to London. I actually had to leave the intimation of a production and the performance I was thrilled by because it was to real and it reflects. Aspects of my home life and my childhood. That would just making me so unhappy. I couldn't take it and because of this the way those actors work? That was everything about them, that this has never happened before you hearing for the first time and somehow you phone, I shouldn't be watching this- this is to private. For me to be an observer is bit within its also very fascinating to hear that it sounds like
whatever was making you unhappy as a child and you kind of winning the failure to escape all that and then the fat that moment was the very thing that was then taking you back to that. To that point, a curious: how did you ever then a grand scheme? Did you ever get away
a lot of quite expensive, but absolutely blue ribbon therapy. Oh good, oh Sears, good! That's what I did and all this offers for several several years gone over and over and over and over and dumb and on it gets worked out and you can face it and you can talk about it and we hear this law, especially now. I work a lot with it, an english organization that deals with domestic violence, because that's part of my life and makes me very proud to be associated in the shower disco refuge and they do brilliant work in the United Kingdom. I, for instance, could not play rage, anger, fury, not even good violence. I faked it for years and years and years faked, very well that I was faking it because I was afraid to tap into anything that that might have. You noticed some
islands I faked it for years and years near faked, very well, but I was faking it because I was afraid to tap into anything that that might have you notice of turn me upside down again and and then with a lot of help and on one the full director who said it's time you let go of this young you can and if you are prepared to oust playing or I was playing from child murders in a spare play. He said dumb. I know it's, I know what's there and if you will tap into it, swear to God. I will never leave your side. I will be here.
To hold your hand if you prefer to go, for it was a wonderful things were directed to say and and again with with counselling therapy. It all became. We have a phrase, reuse them, certainly in the theater. It's it's, but I say we use. Maybe it's just one that I use. We have a memory bank and the longer you live, that bank account gets bigger and bigger and richer and richer, enriching and now he's ever wasted on an actor. Nothing, and sometimes I feel uncomfortable about it, no matter what the experience your involved in no matter- and actually I had somebody talk about this in connection with the Paris bombings in november- that, while it's happening, you are saying to yourself, do not, for
This remember what it feels like remember what you saw remember what you had keep these sounds fresh and vivid in your member. Don't try to erase M because they're gonna be really valuable letter, so we am. It makes life kind of interesting, Well, that's good. I think it's good for people to hear who needs important for people to here who are going through it, Oh, this is something that Patrick Stuart went through and he was a the deal with it and he was able to use it, and even he struggled with it for a long time. So I think that's really important, because I think most people just adding most you're gonna, bet thing where they go well, everyone else has shit figured out except for me, but the ultimate truth is that no one has shit figured out is very interesting because of the work I do for others and and things that I've written and and and like now like here with you.
King about this sum will come up to me. It happened. I went to jail, gray is written, really lovely autobiography and I went to he did a reading from it to cover Saunders go and afterwards woman came over to me and said how much she enjoyed my work and STAR Trek. So for them, and then I knew exactly where she was going to go because eyes began to water and said Anne and your work with domestic violence, and I said it's problem for you and she nodded her head and the encounters like that are you know: we're acts as wish shallow people away. Centric you know we have full of our salary. I give a shit about anybody else, but when you get moments like that,
when someone says that it helps what you have said and done is fantastic, so it gives celebrity or notoriety whenever seems appropriate, another color. I think it also, I think, the other kind of reward that comes from it is that you, I assume you sort of feel like if someone else can benefit from what I went through than it wasn't. A waste of you know like it better, since it is somewhat, did help someone else go through it and in my case it it. It had two stages because I knew my mother. Suffering, and I knew I could not do much to help. So what I do now I do from the woman. I couldn't help, of course, when I was six seven eight and my father's got a pretty bad press all in all about all of this. Naturally he has he was about.
Who is committing the violence, but then, two years ago, when I did, who do you think you are to my astonishment and completely unexpected the subject of the hour? Long television programme was my father, so I disk things about him. I didn't know I'm one of the things I discovered was nineteen forty one. He returned on the last boat out of Sheer Borg, part of the british. Expedition reforms that are gone into Europe to fight the Nazis, and then we were pushed out Dunkirk and there wasn't people or no Dunkirk, but there were other places too were wet. Allied troops were on the beaches and trying to get back to England,
and they showed me- lie one camera, a newspaper keeping which said the sergeant opportunities returned home to my field severely shall shocked. None of us knew, I swear to God, none of his new, not my two older brothers, not my mother. Nobody had said that and a certain overly would mention PTSD and were all they would have said was come on. Act like a man pulls out together, Sir, and then, when this particular part dad's military service- I mean I I I stood on spots in northern France, where the the war historian his regiment historian, said your father must have stood right on this spot at this moment and he is what was happening, the train they were going into Abbeville. The train have been stopped because Nazis were supposed to be fifty miles away, what already in the town- and they were straight
and bombing the railway lines, and your father's train stopped here, because we know there was a bridge there and you other being a huge part of the military police and hit one of his job would have been to get everybody out of the train, an inn? the long grass into the woods anywhere the river banks when it could be safe- and I said your father would have been in charge of that and the things he would have seen in those days surrounding that would have been appalling because the Nazis they made a particular. This was intimidation. They they would, they would strife with fighter planes and an shell roads filled with Energy is trying to get away from the fighting, but they would chased them there and they would govern them down, and my father would have seen all that and I m no one should have to see stuff like that. Nobody ever helped him. There was no, he didn't know asked for help. No, he didn't was embarrassing and shaming. I have to admit to it. You didn't
you weren't, a man if you'd been so shocked and frightened as he must have been an when I talk to specialists in this and talked about my experience of him. They say he said archetype behaviour as absolutely no Your father had severe PTSD everything. You tell me the weekend, alcoholism, the violence. The mood swings himself. So now I do the refuge word for my mother and there's an organization called combat stress. I'm done I do that. For my father, that's wonderful! That's really wonderful, and I think it's amazing that you can talk about it and I think it's amazing that you're still doing the and even though, at the time you didn't have the knowledge analogy didn't have we didn't know about the fair, but you didn't know how to help already. You must have helped thousand
and thousands and thousands of people I mean it's. An incredible gift is an incredible gift. I feel very grateful age, door, you were such a wonderful man. I mean the fact that you you're ok, talking about STAR Trek, stuff in your letting us nerd out about every script. In every thing you talk about that you ve, opened, about your family, I mean you're you're, just you're such a great human being, and I really hope you continue to come back on the palm cast as things come up for you anytime. I adore and you know when I was working on record as having any We have witnessed and we'll just said, the most wonderful things about you yeah. Here I am very unusual in interesting relationship, because he was the kid on the show yeah, although actually I hated his guts, because when the man next generation was announced,
The LOS Angeles Times admitted there were only to act, as anybody ever heard of in the show of our burden on where we have no one had seen. Do I guess not? though, I had more to do in June in the directive cut than I did. Thank you very much David Lynch when you were making do in real life, or this is gonna, be like bigger than star wars. I mean this is due. This is a huge kind of did in and sort of hope, because the end. DE. There was hope by the film makers that it would be the first step of a franchise because they were, I think there were four books. You would not yet there were four dune books and we only made the first one and I'm not sure we made the whole of the first one now so an gurney Halleck was a recurring character, so it but then, if I
on that maybe I wouldn't have done. I knew and you can never now never look back and goal what it like. It worked out. The way worked at having worked decorate worries about will your cut Yoda get cause. I was I was friends of well in those days he was a little wearable, moody teenagers and now we're both Modi teenagers, but but he, oh he's, always borne very highly of you. Well, at the feeling is neutral and we did a couple of shows where we were thrown together for long periods of time didn't. We crash land on a planet survive does that all the man we were in a cave and I was badly hurt and he was looking after me. Maybe tourniquet lot five reform, the vague paid so much money for them. And we were somewhere in the desert outside Bakersfield. I think I can't we're sorry if that you know.
Scan your own directives that IRAN and Alien fly with a daily implanted called of acres made a green room rules out April fifteenth, and I absolutely encourage people to see it, not just because it super fucked up and it's a really great thriller, whore movie, but it's just it in view in this role is different than aiming. I've ever seen you in before. It's really great, thank you and thank you for being here Hang on marriage. I know a season for end of season for gas Oh I've been between May yeah. There are going up there, they today they adopt with a pad catholic that we want to tell you to fuck yourself I'm going to go all I was under the rest, I'm sorry you did put in the correctional still fuck you for messing up the forget again. I will speak up for in front of you in front of patent. You're mad actually invented an escape clause. For the enterprise called alpha. Three: nine, if you ever in a conversation where someone is corner jus about the specifics of a particular STAR Trek episode
you just go out for three nine and you're communicator in they immediately beam you out of it in origin, Tat, you know if you walk in an awkward situation, you know, like francs, getten handy with the lieutenant than you out for three nine, then you're out of your out here, love that well, I dont need to use that here No, I don't want you out of here, but I'm afraid must go. There are other things that are very busy. Thank you so much in everyone, and, as I said, I adore you I'm right away. Thank you very much. I should also add the movie in New York in LOS Angeles, this Friday it opens nationwide. A week later we want the nineteenth of twenty twenty seconds I dont want- we will think they, whereas we wanted it's not govern imaginable. Twenty nine. May once our Americans don't really speak like we do speak like somebody, that's ok, I think the whole time I would like us, and you must really ok fuck this guy, so you please. I appreciate your import. Any presentation of an american accident well, next time, I'll come back with a lot of them plays grace.
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