We'll go to the identified cast number ten. Ninety time. Ninety one thousand ninety episodes. Let's talk about the idea to anti community, which is you events it I didn t die com. If you want to share your thing on the corporal.

Or thing of someone you know- or maybe you don't know, even though the person by early gives a great thing shares ownership, but this is a thing that the person made. So this is from LISA Rights. I want to promote new podcast. My husband in Ireland are Fortys and during this covert time we ve had to move cross state lines with her two children and move into my husband's moms basement, but that didn't bring us down. I decided to use free time and check something up. My bucket list, which is doing my own podcast on our podcast lyrical breakdown, just a great name, my husband and I choose a song in breakdown. Will we think the song means to I love? It does a great premise: we love we both have all John was a music and are having a blast doing this. I am committed to doing an episode a week for a year, even if I don't have many listeners, although I would love to have a few more listeners, I really want to show my children that if you want to do something, then don't be afraid just doing. I also want to show that you are never or tool to start something new here here LISA. I applaud you. This is a great idea,

a great idea for a podcast, great name for a pod, cast an eye love. That's your doing something, constructive and and and and you're making a thing like this is. This is the thing that I always say people just do it express your thing? Make you think this could take you indirections? You could never even have fathoms before and and also with someone who started playing musical instruments in their forties. I appreciate the comment about you're, never too old to start something new, so I applaud you. I appreciate you and thank you. Thank you. Thank you for sharing events and I detected outcome for anyone else who wants to share the thing with the eighty twenty Community Court board. This episode is tough linen the original guest. We would call him Tom Lenin, his guest prime he's he's our use our number one guest on the patent. Yes, he's been on several times. I ve

forever? He was one of the producers about midnight. We worked together on a million things we met when we were above snotty, kids work in an empty Vienna. Nineteen hundreds and just loved appeases love, em Tum Tum is someone who has such a high outputs of stuff content. He's he writes books. He writes a series of books. Road boil which are great young, adult books. He is in a band he's rights. Tv shows movies. He acts in things and by the way, new episodes of Reno nine one one are unclear, be right. Now there was a part one before now. This is a part too. It is available on quibble, Reno nine, when one people always say to Tom Tom what you make Marina nine when one it is done, they did it. These are short episodes too. So

you should watch and enjoy all new and very happy to see that all new episodes of Reno nine one one, but time is up. Certainly someone that I look up to he. He just is doesn't stop to question to second guess whether or not he should do something when he gets an idea. He just doesn't he just does it and then you know and that's what you gotta do is so I always. A common listening to Tom he's got some great stories in great advice on this broad care. So thank you, Tom Lenin. I adore you, and this is the only ten t up a sword number one. Ninety with Tom then we'll get no Lord. I can't even

we're gonna get to see you're just gonna hear you I'll shoot, I'm sorry! Yes, you Gonna get to see me, I didn't find found fry. He can't which may bury under is all look at you will you got your beard? I haven't. I I wouldn't combine a beer. I would just call mine laziness, I know, but if we want to do it for a while, I'm starting to get feedback like I've, never gotten before exact soups, positive yeah, but the thing we have appeared in the eye

maybe one or two times I've ever gotten passed? What I call like the each cliff where you, It's like we're like going up to it and I can't stop tugging at it. In my favor bombers, aided, and that goes on. Actually, for almost ten days like it's not like some, like quiet kind of like this will be better tomorrow. I know it's a long process and I know that the trick is to just stick with it, and I always get like I was prior like a day away from being. Ok, I, like you know then I'm just healing it off my face. Like I really am that, but that doesn't really good on your time. I spoke. I got a guitar hand. If we do that letter, You're gonna happen, I'm leaving you, I know you don't I've. Just I've been taking guitar lessons for quite a while, they're like a year and a half years, I've been I'd, start doing, guitar onstage my act and, and I know you're a good guitar.

Where it will find because, like I started taking lessons this very shocked by this in the show, I think we're already doing the show or we already going yeah I'll crap. I was right. I'm all right, cited for, like some big interim one billion, in a cool, encourages one vivo variety and at midnight? Will you come and furs podcast gas is true, so the notable as the priest in both trip much. With ever going to credit you, the priest in both written boat trip, the doktor that man are you a doctor and Batman, I'm I'm a doctor in two Nolan films butting in both Oh yeah and dark night, he said

you I have dockyard exert sees me as yeah, it's funny Chris. I know Chris pretty well. Last year he zinc me. I got like I got zinc by Christopher Nolan cause our children. Will you go to school together, announced I was walking Ali to school and taking? Interestingly, I was taken away to school on the train. Just like Thomas Wayne does bad and Jordan, in better handling some common about the subway, and I are I'm workin on sweetener. And no one- and I say, hey- create something: I'm not that I'm a hero, but just you know just taken a bunch of kids from a neighborhood to school, on the train and Nolan says without adaptation. You know I'm gonna lawyer that can get you out of that to you. I probably if I was like, I just got full blown zing by Nolan Financial. If you're gonna get

Indeed, by someone it's not a bad, and I would imagine it's probably took cause. I don't know, but I don't know if he's like, if he has comedy energy or why I'm assuming he does that he he runs a little. Runs a little dry. It was so that that I feel I get he might not get the forgiveness person. Sounds like you might want to see more people than there like wait. What No, no I'm just getting is just being amusing. The here's! What weird I find you know, it's always a test. Do you do this to people I test to see if they laugh and I'm yet to really find a super successful person who did not found will like I did the same thing on the on that same movie, like with christian bail rises. I did like a joke he's like how my gun now above hamburger. Now when the cameras gonna get towards off him towards me. You know because you sends gonna get and I was, and I was their staying excellent. I said

How about when the cameras about two pan I go and I could be the q and he laughed really hard cuz. I cried cool because I don't like, if I had made that joke, I feel like I don't have. I feel like I never would have been like, I do know that that those are top ones to pull off if you're, not unless you know everyone already well, but I feel tat my way of testing people out to sea like are we gonna, be friends cause? I did the same thing with Clint Eastwood on that we're Clint Eastwood movie. That was so strange. Fifteen seventeen to Paris, ok, Clint Eastwood comes enemies gettin up there. You know we still got weights and baubles outside his trailer yeah just forget Jack and the marbles. Just you know what kind of from like the eighties rather like the kind

marbles where you can slide like square weights, and you can slide them to be different amounts of weight, OIC right right now, so yeah Clint on outside his tour bus, which is kind of an old tour bus for his trailer he's got Barbara was that if you found them on Ebay would be best offer a shepherd I was in there with Connie's word and, unlike sins and the scene, you know it's like its jack fishers in it and another duty. You Greer too funny folks a lot of money, people memory which ass I now and I'm like. Maybe his duty and genoa there, but I was like a faggot undergoing to try some with Clint. Let's see how this go, some sit behind a desk point of principle and I said kindest would have ever ascetic victim. Yet he said, like hello, hey, I add that guy gets out from the addition. Yeah or something is always says, and I said I m heckling

I want to over think those, but is there any chance at my character, would have a large digital raven on his shoulders perched on a shoulder for this whole scene, Clint Eastwood, just when I can go as they even dirty Harriet I mean it's. You just got a test and see like how weird or people yet I know I think I think, maybe you have you a very natural carbon. Energy- and I feel like I did- that read more like I was trying to get attention.

You know what I try and get attention to and I M just get. Is you know what it is? Is it's my wave? I'm scared all comedy is this? Don't you think I am? I come into situation. I am frightened of everything, as I think most people are all the time. I certainly am all the time I've gotta meeting with Arnold Schwarzenegger on Zoom later today and I'm gonna get you know. Of course you know how I role, but I'm gonna make a joke. To get over. How scared I m all the time and that's what we're doing everywhere. We go. Isn't it that's what I'm doing yeah you should say I loved you and judge dread, just see how I see how it flies. You know he was on the pod cast a handful. Ago- and he was delightful- is a fascinating cabman yeah. Just imagine can imagine that guy yeah. Can you imagine a lot ups and downs of, but, like can imagine like so doing everything you ever set out to do pretty much, it's crazy

well and but that is that vat is an interesting. I guess topical. I've been to your house, you too. Well, no. I mean an interesting things that book an interim because you, because it is for the people who can deal with it it release those like You know what was the ratio of them chasing, something as I thought it was gonna fix them versus people doing things because they enjoy doing them in the people who really tend to enjoy the process, tend to fare better and the true what you feel like you know, each one of those goals, he's, gonna somehow make them whole, and I realize let's not really how things work that's already, whereas bitter and upset Schwarzenegger was fucking, rate on the purchase and super open to talk about whatever the lion. Oh, you want. I, it was you who told me, because you had talked to him and I was going Salzburg and you were like hey. I have arsenals recommendations of the best Saltzburg restaurants, which was the golden Hirsch

restaurant in Salzburg at the Golden Herschel. I remember that commendations remember and I remember thinking man my life is like. I never think here's what I never think my life is cool based off of major events right. You know like when the book came out and did well wrote a book by the New York Times by socialist. I felt legitimately nothing who had no feelings, but then, when I was eating at a restaurant Salzburg like this was a recommendation from Chris hard work. She Hardwicke directly. From short and eager. I was like hey man, this is life is cool, is weird. Life is like neared, so good restaurant recommendation meant meant a little bit more to me than was just the fact.

You sort of casually tat stuff hours in darkness rises in momentum having you know like the grocer. Those are cultural, touchstone, n and those are other people thing was now. Let's not forget that lieutenant Dangle is a also a cultural touchstone for people like you ve, not just. In other people's touchstone, you are, you are an invite. You are a touching. You have created a touchstone for the the state to because I went on. I never had never really been on red bubble. There's a website called red by any other other tee shirts other exactly hand. I somebody had said there's like a great like new boot, Guph and teacher on red bubble of lieutenant dangles Arlington looked at. I was like Nano there's like twenty failure like so I ordered a couple. I'm not sure if I can wear them feels a little weird but ones a cartoon of me. It's not really me! It's like a cartoon of me that says you know like genuine paint.

Asteroids three payments. I guess I think I can wear that right or is it is at a weird thing yet another what you wear it to yeah, it's kinda doin. I checked it out somewhere in a box now, although crew jackets from singled out which I've never we're gonna have started, it made you gotta, muddy gotta oh don't be weird got up could be, which is the right at the right event at the right event, its letters I have, I never worn it where we ve been Lebanon. We have a poison Wisconsin, that's where we're living for. While we shall replace right down the road from we're dungeons, Reagan's was invented. Mr Nerd, oh my gosh layer, United Action, but I brought I have a bunch of show jackets too. Like demon wagons, got us all made for season one of lethal weapon, these giant Highschool. Let her jacket

that are made out of like nine kinds of leather, huge patches, and it's like heavy, it's like armor, and it has it also my favorite that is as like lethal weapon season one and then am I on the front it has. My name is as Thomas was like: where in the world, can I go wearing a lethal weapon? Fancy crew jacket that has my own name, front. I'm like that's, that's a ball or move really says large monk going into a pizza. You know. Maybe it's me Thomas list, you remember Thomas but little. We do know. Is that your job with the tv Will he forgets, I feel like it be fined, aware, like totally loved her, where, like a major dad crew jacket, like I want a final. What's a weird is one you because in our house you know the genuine was in right, o daring.

Monsieur underline journeys, Milly and Bull. Durham online gambling is such as legal, Durham swag. Oh my god. She's got all the bull, Durham baseball cards, which is pretty cool of all the characters, one of which is Danny Ganz. The magician rush to remember that one of the young man well. There's a builder is Danny Gang believe that I did not remember, because I didn't wear any Ganz was when I saw that movie, but I think in in the house you ve got some pretty needs, seven, a house in the house. I think one of the needed, since we have a she has to like a regional, bolder M jackets, that from an informed that movie yeah that are putting it. That's. The great any might also she has a connection to it. For me, it would just be lawyer, I'm a dime Adobe fan of this thing. I don't know man of you ever know unaware that single that jacket, I would take it off of your hands. I it's maybe is each season was a different, a different tour of nineties fashion. So

number one. There are ways we can. I guess, can I guess per season? Is it? Is it like a sword, slightly whitewashed Denham with patch. In my brief it might be, or is it actually parachute material like that kind of stuff? There is, That is, there was one that was like bright white and I think I'm innovate season asylum. So I would be like a gas station one because it was the nineties sure sure there's one. That's like oh Gatt, like was up there bowling sure to reduce always like. Let's do a bowling sure there might have been yeah. There might have been a couple of things we need to stay where I was really proud. We always did state gives one year on the state and I still haven't. Oh, I shouldn't. I should announces whether, where the state is giant benefit this year, We gave somebody like black lives matter and some cool venues and stuff, and I auctioned off the Porcupine suit from Porcupine racetrack

but wait wait. Wait I just want to do now is that the most foe who bought it for six thousand dollars never paid for it? So I haven't back so at some point. I'm going you auctioned off again for some awesome charity, the the actual porcupine of it, that is, it stick my fate. One month everything's, we did state very early on. We always give we're gifts for state like one year.

Gave, everybody a second place, trophy baseball, trophy book. I think, first year on a state, we gave everybody an autograph. We we went and got like three hundred copies of dianetics. Yes, at the Scientology Celebrity Centre in Times Square and they gave us a discount, as we were a tv show. I was ok, we're a tv show. Will you give us some often we absolutely? We will, of course not it's. So we autographed and gave out you don't like all the Teamsters in New York, just like three hundred autograph copies of dianetics- and I remember thinking we're so funny we're just the best and on all these people are like well, this is one of the times were like a hoodie would have as you assholes instead of things TAT, give that's only funding to you, you drug addled, twenty two year old. What I would I wouldn't what I would have wanted from the states is, should I'm sure no one has any more, but it was there. The snuggled,

brick softened herb, though very rare at which it starts talking and then carry just like flip I'm just started shooting in and out of it with an iron cuddly soft. Yes, there was agreement. I think we actually got somebody accidentally. Sometimes people accidently do your sketches again. It's happened and that one somebody, I think They got borrowed sort of beginning the end by I want to say maybe man, TB or somebody, but really it was weird most states. That was so weird that you couldn't redo it anyway, but I was sort of an obvious one. You know I mean it was it was. It was a groundbreaking sketch show, you know what I think about. I mean I, I put the state in this sort of petty and really amazing groundbreaking sketches, like you know, python in living color. Nah stay, you know what I mean it. It just is just one of those ones. You guys you came along at the right time. It was

it was the ninetys were a new era with it felt new and fresh in, like I just I connected it's so well when it was like a you know like Punk Rockland at shall we were very punk rotten. We were super super arming, then was so punk rock that he was like on speed and wait. Eighty five pounds and had green hair her, but we would be another state had like regularly, would get and fights were Marino put his fist rural wall. One time a lot us a lot of crazy. We were very passionate and very angry speed of. When we did you can't you think you can go see. We did a state like alive, zoom show as a benefit, not that you can see an actual day fully from kids and home, whose become a good friend of mine later in life is so funny. Everybody was always like you guess, written off, kids in the hall.

I've never seen kids in the hall when we're doing a state, and then I did see kids at home. I'm like these guys are amazing. I love them, but I don't know I didn't feel like we're ripping them. Often anyway, I mean the hall was very. It was very good If Albert Canadian to marry me because I'm how to preserve all my God, you don't like it, I like canoeing through the office building, What lower amazing limit, but today the girl alone. So you know something by the way things have happened for less reason, but after that show we did were fully the joke. Was here's a bunch of white goods from the stake is where a bunch of useless old white people and we're like working as you have all your favorite. It was from the state Lui, the guy, who keeps his balls and burying Laval and angry sarcastic guy and then do fully came in and was like. I'm angry sarcastic guy, we're gonna know

wrong group and then, but solely with similar, is Dave, so lovely all of those guys are so lovingly. I send it. I just tweeted today, as I thanks for doing our show, everyone covered over what we did in a monsters of ninety sketch kids in a whole state tour to which he was like. Absolutely. Let's do that and, as I forget, maybe what? If we just really did that. Why? Wouldn't I mean even right did a few shows. You did you have to do a hundred shows you can. Just like I've been see how I mean that is epic, that's evident, I I I I I can't get it out of my head now that it would be nice to me. It's like it's like the very here's, a very soft version of like Peter Gabriel, instinct touring together, you know, but whenever it makes everybody better yet

you just if you talk to. If you talk to JANET and sketch passports, you could start you can you can t get out of it as etc? Like that that that's that's an awesome, I do have a high per fact place to do it when the sketch vote some back in your estimation, probably year from January right, I don't know actually any I do it's impossible to know any. I mean right. I just know that I've been waiting it soon. If it was gonna, be January. Twenty one. I don't know you gotta, be no. I love sketch. I miss that's the kind of thing, a really truly MR most dislike the weirdness of and won't want. One is called like the cramped quarters. What's it called the club quarter, yeah. Oh Papa is yeah yeah yeah borders. I miss you missed the live, I miss performing live. I don't miss travelling all the time right. But I miss being on stage and right, and I miss Scatcherd Dominum Sketch which is always an amazing time. It's just see a bunch of your favorite people together, amazing in fun, weird stuff. On stage the crowds were were encouraging of x,

mental stolen money. Ideas, as some of the most essential. Also just San Francisco is San Francisco man at so wonderful to be there, yes, just the camaraderie of like you turn San Francisco for a couple weakens into like it's a college town where every college student is my favorite, Medium and we'll walk around the quad and get chinese rude and ducal stuff for these intricacies Quetta goes back to it. What we were talking about a little bit about, which is why got to do some really read stuff. Oh yeah, you, you particular have you know, because I mean, I like to work, although I'm a guy, I become very comfortable like not working days a week. Just Alexander. They are all over the place like I've been really kind of enjoyment I liked being, and how do we get a job? And it's been tells my wife

You know like lovelady later than you had no guys a guitar you're right. You pass every once in a while, but your work output is insane because you're always writing like five things and you're acting in things and your writing books and you're in a fuckin bands, like its Smith, started again again that all I guess little plug further, the world's best Smith's and Mortar Caverns winter hooligans, but again Christa Control place of like, like that for the first like you do so because it I want to do this, I want to do this, but then I will also say like sometimes the reason I'm writing. Five things is because I'm positive four of them will be thrown away and not even read by anybody. You know,

right right away, because you just don't know you know it. You know I did in this town or, like all of those baby tortoises that are trying to market, see right of somebody's gonna, buy their heads off. That's what you mean there's a girl, I'm gonna break all or some of going to step down under they make it into the ocean, and then you know dire reads like it: the it's very wreck, the only them the only a couple will make it through, which is why there are so many make a show load of turtles make a shitload of turning a shit load, a turtles and a sum of money will be turd old. With underlined, turd yacht, you know that's what process set right now written. They are gone the other way and covered lockdown, which is I now right so frantically. I feel better. I'm in the band, the part of Hamilton. Where he's like. Why do you write like you're running out of time? Maybe it's cuz. I turn fifty two weeks ago

but but as a fifty year old, like writer and comedy runnin screenwriter, that's basically like being a hundred and fifty to the studios member when they all everybody looks at Woody Allen and Annie Hall and he's got like pious and a giant. Has she Dick hat, and then he looks like the most jewish stereotype. You could possibly picture Do you think you can get? The oldest has a right to her. If you, if you looked at me through the lens of the movie studios, I would look basically like one of the golden girls for how actively the golden. Girls were very funny, so you don't running and actually they weren't as old as they looked any about sex we think is still very might have been the youngest one August. By far by far apparent legislators, look older. Have you been to site, be the broom, the Brindley, cocoon line?

I was at the one where you were. You realize you in time for the same like whose I'm older now been Wilbur Brimley was, we need a clear. There is a K. I think you have to be forty, eight and a half years old, but when you're forty eight and a half you hit the Brimley, Cocoon line, which means you're the age that Wilfer Brimley plus in a movie cocoon wait a minute from forty eight and a half you up hard with Czech check Brimley, Cocoon line cause you're very close I do, but I don't wanna beyond that. I only know you're gonna hit like also Crystal guess you right now you're like young and Jack and got Qatar is in your cool nearest exact, sick image that over Brimley was when he started cook it, but that's the only maybe maybe now you know sort of like how we look yourself in the mirror and you go. Can I guess I got this looks about right and then you look at yourself in a photo you're like what happened. What happened from here to photo? Maybe maybe I look like- maybe I look like Cocoon Wilfred grimly-

we are aware. Maybe one of us know nobody was so you were saying- and this is important but so are you know I've been writing like Hamilton on a little tiny bit of angel dust during this whole cove adjust to its. You know it's crazy time to wonder like when Are there movies again when Sir, you know, we are working on a season, a arena on one one, but maybe yet again for equity? Every time I say we're we're going to show for equity. I get it do like the handle, the next three minutes of people being like. What's quickly, it. Q, Bert, oh, wait are you doing a chauffeur hurts like they will get me so much grief and I, like you first of all queries mostly fuck it all. Will do. Is beg me for more renewable ones, then we did them for Caribbean they're like we're, not gonna. Do it for clear, because it's a dumb name and, unlike so you're, not gonna, watch a show. You like on a service

by the way it. I know what you're talking about something that someone tweeted. That to me, I would say to you in person on an old people does not meet anyone in person, but on people are like when I start responding because everybody just like what's equipping is acquitting when you a a part that build you dear swimsuit, and then you, the Erika and White, shut up. It's it's a fucking, Dick really, he's and stretched his ears limited with our has built up a throwback to. I think it was not necessarily the news. That's a great snig, let Stiglitz Dear Dick It really is when you and your failure mats when that other than a genuine regional eggs Marietta Stiglitz, one was a single it was. I remember I went to fraught warrants Nicholas on Fridays, those eggs, those sketches.

I thought they were not a surly news on me. My ear was as a little kid somehow we got became to California. We drove from Chicago Station Wagon, no airconditioning went California and my dad knew somebody at ABC News Chicago in the gutter, He gets to alive taping of Friday's agenda. I want to give you a music better. That's gonna, California, One reason why we, all California will need. You can tell a story. I do, sir, like an dad's got his arm out. The window. Tat gets a bad sunburn in Arizona, real bad. Like third degree blister gonna die agenda, now four hundred take pride in the musical guest is Tommy to toe

seventy five thousand three hundred and nine meets soap, opera, star, Anthony Tony Geary and he signs an autographed that says: Megan stay, sweet, Tony Geary and I remember thinking I'm going to be in sketch comedy and meet people like Tommy Tutone. Well, I've got one I'm grown up and you know it did the momentum train because it really. I think when you don't you think this did. The business is about our job, the job. Oh, no, no danger life noon, but now I realize what you really workforce momentum. Yet the momentum you know, and so what? But what you you are planning, so many seeds for things but you will just have this constant train, a momentum, planting of Gordon reliably single audit in a garden we never get to see

As long as we have been able to get to know you re right, I, what am I the best piece of advice, one of our very good screen writing agent at Youtube. Gregg midnight. People whenever somebody would give me a script, even if it was amazing- and they would say he would you please give this your agent, it's an amazing script, and even if I read it- and it was amazing, he had a really interesting response, which is he said. No. I won't be that an and he said, here's the thing I dont represent scripts. I represent writers who, so, if you had ten scripts to look on and have you no stuff, I got you'd be interested, but like the notion of like one great script, will get you in the door somewhere be sure that's happened, suck sometimes, but that's mostly not one happens, mostly the same people to generate tons.

Work. It's interesting like when you need something done always go to the busiest people. You know first, because the busiest people like it, I need something right away. I got a weirdo and why can't we this by tomorrow, and then I it'll be perfect and I'll have it by tonight, because it just like there's the people. You know that like get everything done right away, casino, I said, is it also star speeches and the Hollywood Boulevard like the way you do? Something is the way you do everything and the people, people creating a ton of suffered, is always creating a tunnel stuff well, but also you can't have a two overactive of a perfectionism gene, and I don't mean, like you're, not worried about the quality of your stuff. I just mean that obsessive thing, like that's tough of of of using in her critic out of the way and getting that judgment in and allowing yourself too like, but whatever this

they'll be asking to get it out in the world, and I'm not going to judge it first and that's a very interesting detail about time. Back to the beginning, the conversation which is to have to be to directly One is Christopher Nolan and one is Clint Eastwood who basically give you one take. And then maybe a safety, but often not like. Usually there's something like the camera catches fire, while you're feeling like like no one, especially just like you're a good hour at moving on and that's the thing is knowing that you're done or that at least you're done for now, which is a huge step in the process, because you can end up pick up the stuff you workin on and go back unjust or tweet fiddling filling a feeling. I do a lot to gain the danger with it is. You forget sometimes like,

you go back and look at supper. Go I shouted this all. I just thought of a new joke. It's like yeah, but it was a matter of the hall like you know, you're you're, looking you're looking retrospectively, with fresh with newer, fresher eyes and so yeah you might have a different perspective, but it is a point you really have to become too would like, but that's what I did at the time. That was wrapped the time. You know it was interesting because, like I endlessly joke that better lie that our worst found that we ve ever written is Herbie fully loaded, and it's funny. It's like it's one, as well as its just like low hanging. Fruit is an easy job to make It just a thousand moneylender, maybe that's so stupid, but actually there were like before the World CUP.

And they were showing it on a Saturday afternoon at the new Beverly, and so I took Ali to my son to go see it, and I was like well fuck like there's. Some cheese starve a little bit, but it's also like there's a lot of it. That's really kind of great and it's like yeah. There is a thing about getting a little bit older and embracing like like I definitely oh, my god. I've got some cringing state sketches for sure that, like I just can't stand, not a ton, not a tonne. But have definitely got a couple like night. I dread the day. The sun watches me singing like the boner song, which is at the time I was like. This is so funny

like a size, I'm an element of owners are now threatening. What, when I was wrong, guest Aruba Sketch one time for river right, there was about resources, have even radio is fake commercials like fishy bar, the baronet tastes like fish and like all these, we're thanks and one was that we had a baby tastes like soup was just use fun. Weird sponsors remember: we had a board game that was called, whereas the lean burn baby and it was about the boardgame was it was clue where you had to find where the Limburg baby had been kidnapped too, and I remember I was really mad- that calmly centre would not let us do it like. You can't make jokes about the Limburg baby, I'm like its nineteenth ninety seven and then later I realized now you know what they were right on that one yet, but but you know what relic twenty two years old or something you yes, twenty on visa is probably twenty o unviable

We buy another yeah yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah, but but you know it it's it's good to be able to look back at stuff in and have sort of a marker. Oh I've got I've been since then that was ok, for they ought to do the terms, but if you can the term it is. You just need to be looking and looking ahead in an age of that you never stop. For too long to over think things which I don't you know, I think when I was younger, I used to think. Oh, you know if you know, thinking. Well, that's something that smart people do and I feel like an iron honor, that's necessarily drew. I just think it's a thing that obsessive people do What is united and that sometimes and obligations have not mixed up. Sometimes you just have to like, that's the other thing in, and this is something that I say to myself a lot, which is a damn thing, but it's an improved thing and it certainly use you be in. I know JANET and would say, which is your first thought.

Is the best thought you know, and this is a huge thing to get too, but I get down to the point not only when I'm writing a scene where peace, a dialogue or something do. I realized first thought you first, what was the best ought, but I've got taken it to cause. I'm also held a super stitches, just like what pants on my putting on. Why don't think passed? The first decision just made the decision you dont know move on, but it was funny so yeah just trying everything you gotta travelling, my famously my worst sketches ever route for the state. Why route to one was called the dream if it was like Fantasy Island, where you could get very very reasonably priced dreams could cut. It was in this if it was an isthmus of dreams. Oh my god, I remember pitching that sketch and can marina

looking at me like you were gonna punch me in the face he hated the sketch so much that it was actively mad at me and he was right by the way and then another eyepatch Eroto, a sketch of Baywatch spoof sketch, and I remember just like that feeling of pitching something by the way you wanna get great at writing, get a croupier friends together and pitch each other stuff a couple times: weak, it'll, tough, make you so tough and also get you ready for the movie business, the tv business, ninety nine percent of which is about. Are you good, pitching people who don't

to hear your idea and could also who art who don't see it? The way you see it's harbour sent an art invested in it that way, and here a hundred pitches a day exactly so the other worse by famously worse, state sketch, there's a couple pretty bad ones, but I had pitched too, like a bay walked spoof that was just awful and about his cringing. If you read it now, actually, Jim Sharp the producer of the state gave it gave me, the Bay Watch spoof script back and he had written on. The top is used to be a high school teacher had written on the top I think you can do better, see me at last year and I would like it if I was really humiliating felt, really city and then twenty five years later been, I actually wrote they watch movie itself. I would like to use it

but you do not really know what it was like. That's a thing like you gotta, you gonna make some terms if some of your turtles are gonna get to the ocean yeah. But how do you? because I really do believe it is about making yourself right. It's it's easy to easy to write when you're inspired and you have got shit to say what I found How you riding on started is required I don't know what I want to say. I don't feel like writing. I would rather be playing video games, I'm staring with almost time your heart, while wanting that I'll I do. I do a couple things. One do something dramatically different, at least for a little while I notice you guitars. I have a similar thing with the music go to some music or something or what I do often as I will write something else as an experiment. So this is a little thing I was taught me by, like I meant

I don't know I've ever talk about this, but ah so Lucas Hedges, the super famous actor in every move. You right now his dad Peter Hedges, whose famous playwright a novelist when I was a theatre camp with care, Kenny and John Hamburg and matters a golden bunch evokes in like nineteen. Eighty seven Lucas, Hedges father was accounts were at my camp and he was only like five six years older than me, but he became very actively. Like became my mentor about writing any be like. Let's go down to the let's go down to the Lake Michigan and write a one act play and I was like well that's going to be terrible and it's like one. You don't know that to ninety minutes. From now you are the author of a one act play yeah, it'll probably be terrible, but some of John, where is plays, are terrible song,

laser terrible fuck it in an hour to have you will have won. I play that Europe and then, if you like to mix it up, he be like. Let's all sit and like do you don't do like a scene study like like a still live costs. We put something in front of you to be like right about all the described in this in all the ways by what it isn't or you know you could just add a real sorted, dead poets relationship with them, but it also taught me that writing everyday is really cool thing to do and if you get stuck mix it up to what was less Tommy run, it tried to read a poem. You know like right upon there's a party or brain that used to repose that school all the time tat it works, but you need a nudge it sometimes. So that's what I do is when, when I have liked cycled myself into a little tron corps,

The boy I am like, like I made his blown up talking about Europe, which happens a lot degenerates reference bank right. There is no squarely in my eyes, I wouldn't worry, I'm a tiny bit older than you, but not yet, but so it's like do really do. Try something else, because right now, like this year, I wrote about a bunch things just speculatively like I wrote the horror tv show Then I got zero feedback on. I don't like any one read it and if they did, they did not like it at all. Gonna be ok with that to you, gonna be ok, knowing like yes, I spend time on this and it might never in the light of day, but the process of it was worth doing because it I

grew in that even in it, even if it was incrementally or I took a giant leap forward, there was growth and happened. While I was doing that thing, even if it was about discipline or even if it was about just getting sort of reserve at a new propelled me to the next idea, you got better no matter what happened, you got better at doing whatever this thing is that you do whether its running stand up, whether that's making movies even acting? I mean seers. What is done? Nothing better than seeing yourself in stuff. That is always want to see results in a cool movie. Sure that's happened to me, maybe once or twice, but luckily I bet and getting see myself in not amazing movies like sixty times, and it's like. I know what you learn a lot from that to you like. Oh, no, never put, never make a face like that, and never like. We had ceased its about not like when you when you sit down and you got a new think about your idea. Whatever it is, you go, I'm not the ending. Is God it's just that now it seems

I will now you know, you're, judging it before you even put just like just start spit it out and see words bit out what it whiling is like. You can figure that have later. I was wondering when people get really excited about, like the dialogue of something is really neat. It's, like the dialogue of your movie, will be changed by the movie star on the day. Twenty five times I want gives to fucks. If you wrote a clever ellipses like at all, but that I get yourself out of the way till now, no matter what it is like itself when it like you behind a move. He who, with that you wrote and movies there'll, be like aren't you shall we was traced on what we can do better in this? Don't you think and like your God is always like No, we can't fucking do better. That was amazing. I wrote TAT. I wrote that it was amazing And then I would like to ask whether a guy like you how to deal with illegal has to be ok with that. But now, but again Dick do sometimes feel like it's out

like you, you feel like you're, maybe on a machine that you can't ever hit the pause button on well. I do think that just who I am, I guess, The third point I gonna realized. Like you know maybe he's around the state and was very relentless attitude. We had in the state for sure which was we shot, Everett ourselves. We edited everything ourselves. We didn't ask anyone's opinions. We certainly never ask permission and we were dislike. Phuket were always moving forward, always be like devouring everything and then I think again, and then I think you know a couple spells where. You really are doing. I think I'm like when I lived in New York. I was never in a movie for eleven years, and all I was trying to do was be a movie actor.

You know- and it was like a Levin years- went by knows finally had like two lines and John Bond Juvy Movie totally troop and speed of job opportunity. Here's the thing about great people did a move which, on bunch of e, had one day of work with him shot on the Bowery in this, like strangely homeless, shelter ran into him. I was super drunk five years later in the lobby of the hotel in Cologne, Germany, where I was filming the movie boat trip always goes back about trinity. Job on Jovi walks into the lobbying sees me like thirty feet away. Ngos Tom Islands like that guy is also show them. Some people's brains function at a different level like job under. We believe, that's pretty amazing. It was ridicule. That is pretty amazing. I mean

it is no surprise that the people who, like really have that sort of like lasting sixty festoon, are of course taken a lot of things and not always try stuff. Over and over and over and over nobody ever get because the things that don't work typically just fall away. People, though you know like it sort of like, Some point in your life and disorder becomes a highlight real. You know that I can remember, you know a bunch of things they die. Didn't gets older. Didn't do well. Are you know like it's like now, but you you, you know you take. The swings adds one time bent vendor and I were standing back stages coming with Tom Cruise, because printing, it he's a virus them. A little bigger, yeah he's been other papers on the planet but sometimes and amuse always been, he might be. The most is one of the most engaging eyes and a lovely nice guy, so nice, but we're staying backstage

so cool when you're hanging around them, that it can get you'd like do dumb stuff that you would only do if it was like a really beautiful girl. You wanted to impress something like it's like you end up doing just some dumb shit around him cause you cannot, but, as he's like you're hanging out with maverick and it's you know that, but so like we're stab at stage, this like wards, were all giving awards to somebody or some nice thing and we're send their return. Crews, his his ex security detail, came in at the head of him, walking down the hall and better. I had done a bit we used always do you probably saw we did at the COMECON Us of railways and our big like eyes, nor ward presentation with a balloon drop its like three balloons, because we too can afford of goodwill in Europe so anyway, one balloons was on the ground for backstage and tuxedos, and Tom Cruise's guy comes is coming down the hall, this guy's size of a tank response, the balloon on the ground and he drove on it and snatched it up as if it were an improvised explosive.

Eyes. Did you think he was like a more efficient than men? The tv series jobs are really that it could have been like a joke. It is good he's, got them all with some crazy laughing gas exactly yeah. Well, I don't know, but I know Tom Cruise, this guy was ready for that and case. That was a scenario because he got that balloon up and out there with the efficiency like I'd. Never seeing maybe Tom Cruise does not like clouds and the guy. Doesn't how, in this guy knew that news? I can these clash it out here. Where we stand a backstage, and this great like australian singer, was playing music on stage and Tom Cruise turns to me and banning went like music right and I was like If I was in a bar and some good turn me in a league, Jimmy Buffet Parent head shirt was like live muse. Right I would have been like ok man, but Tom Cruise turn me went live music right now, like you are, so

man, that's exactly what he would have said. It is now a bait it not. It was elevated by the fact that it was time goes right. Didn't he steal your part in rock of ages Yes, he stole my word Iraq of ages. By the way you know that I got cut out of that film. Speaking up, I was in a briefly. I've only been cut out of a couple movies, but I was a kind of rock you know I mean maybe I'll get to spread out, because I'm sure people that I just heard it before cause, I'm out blabbed about it a million times, but he knew that I was in rock of ages because we remind moderated a panel within one year COMECON. I had met him before. He was a big surprise guests and came out on the panel can I apologize. Anyone is heard this ends and the first thing he says I'm about to either about about to kick. The panel of some thousand people are freaking out eagles, hey Cresson working as winning

I said Durham, you know something in common and, unlike appreciably don't I could not have always Tom cruise me and then goes state. Jack's rock of ages and are willing to. How do you know that I do my research because I buy played. I was the feasibility of whiskey where was it the whisky? We didn't look my school cookout King King, and then we did a couple. Clubs in it. And then, when we moved into like up like a production studio like a stage like a sound staged around it more people, and so I was in the first production to that end. But anybody, obviously he knew that end. I would like you to really at a loss for words, but then all the sudden he just goes now and then he looked at me, gonna go away and then he goes by the way I'm fucking singing with. So when you talk about like surreal experience is that you,

you may never be able, like your fucking fifteen year old boy, would melt out of your head, got it, but you gotta. Try it out with these people you gotta try out in spite of what he likes you get around the top she tossed the pitch like I wasn't there, do I was yes ending him, though I like that was ten times better than me like that Pretty line had been like a Tom cruise. I want to know what I am going, but the photographer, but it was yet that those experiences we really big- bang, like, oh, my god, like some really amazing, wonderful! You can find a way when around super super super famous people to make them laugh without being creepy. It's a real win, and also with behind our screen running book. Talk about this a lot like if you're around super famous people- and you do not ask them for anything- it's a really We give that you're giving them like. We made it a rule like me and Ben like when we meet with like movie stars written movies, the stuff we don't accept, even water from them at all, but if,

looks like a thousand dollars just like you have a jailer, we know you have clearly. There is a gap in this battle. You may go out and is now to be so. Dollars are abundant. Wanna bottled water, but I've yeah, but We go running back diamonds and unloading and right ourselves on because we too producer will come one time and a little bit of adjacent Alexander from And felt we're meeting with Hutch Parker Vocs in a producer who shall remain nameless came in with us on a project and the assistance it can. I get you got anything and he pulled the British are pulled out of his pocket. A little little teabag music can get some hot water for this. Please and it was like he brought his anti back. Then he took off his shoes and put his socks on the president of foxes. Coffee table feels, and I was just like what are those mingled l by the way it did.

It was. Actually I don't say it was because you'll know immediately who the producer has bad. Yet we ve been going This all wrong go in and ask for everything to ask for everything your feet up on someone's desk in I would like it I like going into someone's office right now. Just gives me like it's a weird: will you be run people get, but but you, but if you really, you know in terms of like when you look back it sort of career accomplishments. It's yes, there are goalposts was like. Oh you know. I achieved this or I did this or we did six or eight episodes about midnight or you. You know you were in this movie with Chris Cornell or ever, but it's it's really the experiential things that are the most impactful. Like those experiences that you that you have

as it as a fan and as a human being. You took away like other health factor that happened. You know, like those are the things that you got. What I thought was really interesting is so what I did a couple, which was a critically mostly pan, but we did like three half seasons of it and Gary Marshal was at every taping and always there and I ended up becoming kind of close with Jerry Marshal and then, when Gary Past way. A couple years ago, I went to his memorial, which was this insane event that meddler sanguine beneath on wings, gash right at him sing a song. The eulogies were Tom, Hanks, Julia Roberts, Jeffrey Katzenberg, Michael Ovid summit. It was just like the speeches were just insane and you realize, from the crowd hanging out afterwards,

you like all. I know what you're, what Gary Marshall written mostly did. Is he made tons of friends everywhere? He went like that's what he did. The main thing that he did was you made a ton of friends everywhere he went and I was like there's something I would look out to try to sort of emulate. It would be the real take away from this kind of lifestyle of like project a project to keep drawing stuff. Is the people you take away with it and also like just work on stuff? The? U is fun you know like if you, if you have the option, sometimes you know, sometimes at matter sometimes you work on stuff and you need to work and you you know, but maybe even in those Kay is how can you make it fun if you, if you kind of radio that then, when what else could you possibly want or do you know what I mean you're so like I did the puppet master movie? What year and a half ago

It's basically like an end, see seventeen movie with me and you don't hear and murderous puppets. It's one of the darkest creepy as things I've ever seen, and I can't even say that I can really watch the movie it so disturbing, but Jenny Pellicle, whose in the movie with me, we maintained a great friendship and her husband and I are pals and its do. These are the best things and like without another word once like Judy Rear- and I were in this really really strange movie called Potter's will with Michael Shannon. I guess I should give a plug. This is the only movie- and this is weird of my entire career- that has an actual zero on rotten tomatoes and to have a zero. That means you have to have enough actual reviews to get register

got it, but they all have to be safer. So so that's kind of a win right. You know. No, no, it's it's interesting piece, a trivial, so the movie is its own. Potter's builds Michael, Shannon, Judy, Greer, wrong Perlman shame, oh my god. What an amazing cast an me and it's a movie about Michael Shannon, pretend to be a soft watch and its one does ones when you're making me like this. Really find this is gonna, be great and then later on Euro. As I go now, this just turned into a zero unwrought domain. You now you know what I mean like there's another universe where that got a hundred. Thank you just don't know they killed, but now I'm a now I live in a world where I can. I can Hellboy. Whenever I want out so yeah yeah, I mean it. The thing is you you just never how things are Gunnar ends. You know you no how a movie is gonna win. So many things have that's why you know like we watch a lot of, we watch pretty much any kind of

I think we can get our hands on and I feel like you know we can be a little. Yeah. You know their word enough. You know there were enough. There's two. There was too much a matter. That is, this part did make sense, but in general I always cut away and on, but it's really hot make a movie and they fuckin made it. You know what I mean I most, it's basically impossible. It is near it is. It is astonishing, like the baby, to nothing that anything ever gets made. And then it anything it's made in his good. Like that's like a wow, that's an even read over their makes. You look at things like, then you realize like look like who tell Budapest or something that's like how like, then you get movies that are just great and you're like with that's.

Now it's really almost impossible. This is just like being a sand painting in the wind somewhere because, like Canada, higher anyway so many things, but only if somebody forces working against you, but you also have to somehow have every one kind of work in concert. Every accidental best thing that ever has to happen, happen all at once, and somebody said all the things that had to me all the things that happened when you're writing in prepping a movie. Those are all true, but you should also remember that you're once you're shooting a movie, you do. All the same. We just go things waters a pile of money. That's on fire right! Next to you. Do you want to call it lets? Where do you? What's on I'd like to write me something going guitar if I'd like to learn terrible than I've got this brought out. But I guess you know I I

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