Eleven of energy is bad guys, number one twenty five haven the tv show, a podcast tv show what the tv show from the podcast. It's like the podcast but snazzy here anyway this Saturday September twenty fourth right after doctor who, with ten p m on the EAST coast, p m on some West Coast carriers: railways on right after doktor Whosoever, that is in whatever city living really are after that very excited. Because mats may at the doktor will be on the show, along Craig Ferguson over a few guess and it's fun so please one on BBC America also have a bunch of live dates coming up or taking the podcast out on the road, so go to the Nerdist dot com to see those days. Other places like New York Portland Massachusetts DC. So look on air it took us to those who commands a hidell was then we can all hug you parts of this episode period, They have Tom Wilson on Love Tom Super Great guy, really talented up great actor

super funny. Guy comedian, great artists- and I am proud to Another- He actually mentioned at the end of our episode that he has started a podcast called big pop fun, but she's not put out into the world yet, and we will be doing that for him. So the noticed podcast network will be Now Tom Wilson's big part, one which I'm super excited about so has a big it out on top and thus far, episode, I can sincerely say, was one of my favorites. I really love talking to time. Is a super nice very thoughtful guy and jamming those one part about the back, the future self. But but I was Super, were excited to hear about like the early days, the comedy store and what it was like in the pre comedy vermin shit. They went down even Kennison and that's was so amazing to me in an atomic such a wonderful guy. So I think you will enjoy this episode per noticed. I guess number one: twenty five with Tom well Said- to adhere to a time, will start?

it show radio affects with, might just my voice in real time tat. I see now entering nearest star com we have one euro. Never you walk by the press area and the CNN had this massive two tier booth with low, You know it's nice to ask him for care. Resign a panel of like for people and you look down to the left and there was the NPR table, which was a fold up picnic table with a small tv and a sign that in sharp he and Pierre,

that is a very empty. Are dial table like an old time. Tv right was cute. The tube television you have, I figure, was color for them Tom Wilson. Thank you for coming to our pod care, because it's good for you so glad you're here can I can I begin by throwing down the gauntlet, please God and got away down the gauntlet to the nerves, posturing, she removed back a little. Maybe you should really be sure when you hear what I would say: ok, I'm the biggest nerd. That's ever been on the nervous part. Can let me back it up. No I've got along checklist, you're gonna, be ok! My debate partner in high school was David, Brooks the New York Times columnist,

It is both extensively about me in his book tv episode on C span. I got one trophy when I was in high school, it was in the tenth grade. It was for the oral interpretation of proves it, which I read from the russian poet. You have guinea after Shankar Peace, Babby, r and d short story by Stanley, L can called a politics for both. Thank you in nineteen. Seventy five. And my teammates on the rug high school milk, do you in one the national championship. Thank you. I am a member of the this universe, Don T, you be a rational brotherhood, tube suppliers and I have asthma. TAT can take it. That is really that's that that was like the I envy the internet, where my enemies

I'm the guy had arrived back the day. I got my first, First computer and nineteen. Eighty one I won the nineteen eighty four Memphis Junior High just tournament. I went to computer camp. I was in debate club high school as present a latin club and went and in addition to go, and playing chess tournaments and other cities went to latin convention in the mountain in Colorado at this weird like haunted. Why am I see a facility that looks there was right, near where they shots. I voted latin convention. It was a latin coverage. Images good only share my we actually on the metal stand with you. We had. We had two. We had two or eight in in latin if I can marry a robot, I don't a pretty I gotta rotation approach. Baby in Russia, Franco Rolling I parted and got laid I'm sorry! I guess I elements

lose zero. Member only remember NATO regularly reminded the rest russian prose. I remember none of it. I remember the beginning of the short story. A politics were bullies by Stanley, Elk and ok, which was I push the bully and what I hate, or new kids and sissies, dumb kids in smart, rich kids, Porket kids who pass pencils. What are the plants and cripples especially one time it was pushing this red haired kid, I'm a push. You know: hitter, no, belgian, an aggressor! marginal and his mother stuck out where it goes, but it was a piece about the steadily at and story about a bully in school in everything, so

oh I'm. Reading this day along with Babby, are and one of the judges. I was happy to debate team. You know model you and the whole better and one of the judges after they think that they could give you feedback in over the teaching Judgest. Why do this whole short story? The judge goes piece. It know, you'd make a good bullet. That is why I was so insulted by that that I didn't speak with the guy again why are the entire turn wow? Because I've been so pummelled by guys, you know my whole life. What you're such a delicate usage of big guy, accidental bigeye, accidentally, large, so you're you're, a small nerdy kid inside a bag. My M nerd Zella

or in my chest, there's a small Diana sweater vest just running deriving all that I'm not about to rank Badia. I was a kid who just grew late, and then you know bones or cracking and everything in your mom what's happening to me and then you just look at this body. They will pay up. That's only like eleven and twelve great may, eleventh Gretta was grown alone. We had you what you are on barnyard and you play day. You played a murderous doc, bully name, Crasser Crabs and an end but I love what a lot of urgency was. This tiny little adorable dark and are alike who there and then tornado of punches? do you feel like? Do you feel like at the heart of it? There's a tiny little duck inside you, Tom Wilson. There is a tiny little duck

you decide all written a poem by in Russia's energy rush. Of course, there is, of course, there is most again absolutely what how'd you get into that How did you get into the acting in embody? The head of the the Theatre Department in my high school also ran the debate, and for sixteen. I was lifetime member of the national front, still it is, I'm still at what to do to get out of that UK your tenor, you exiles, Mary, so he I was. I was a very sick kid, so I missed a lot of I had, as my I was in the hospital all the time, so I was having a hard time. I was a miss, fit nerd kid and and the head of, as I said, the head of the theatre. Parliament was also in the debate on MRS I'd, like you to wear a decent replay and now

that's what I thought was just that's fine and everything but plays for weirdos The weird artsy kids and I am Archie. I like it. I like art, I like, he called out and I'm trying to do that. I'm debating through my asthma attacks right, but I'm not going to hang out with those artsy kids at the lunch tables cause. That's a pretty wild seek anyway, so audition for blows, and I got the leader Every play my senior year and of course I totally I totally took two. It was. I do I'm acting but I was still I it was in Pennsylvania. I was still That was a lawyer in everything and I was still on the track where well that's a lot of fun and all the arts things I do, but you have to have yourself fitted for it yeah, whatever have a little alligator tattoos. I've had been made for you exactly so I did it for a while, but once you once you get the Bergen everything I just I just had to do. Actors, don't have business cards, the ones who do it,

like every syllable business cards, are they shot and under their name? It says saying I got this set up what you're supposed to act like curb, certainly, but you know that I gave in asking me if I'm the activist is I'm in the wrong way to go to some prose I might have another fellow comics with business cards. You then cause it's like you switch when they try to make em funny lookin, like us all, I had one. I said our readers of the last laugh. You know, raising the last hour in accord with the tragic and comic mass. Do your job like firm and had guards are just said MIKE firm and business card, I always thought that it was good. That was a phone matter to get the ferment way to go about it, but you also a phenomenal artist, phenomenal artists, I've senior

if the same manager and he I've I've saw the peace that that you gave him, but you were, there was the truck right. You gave him the talk, a truck and you paint you paint pop culture. Toys is considered classical realism, so it's an actual. Eating up a thing of the object there gorgeous heroically lit so Alex. Our manager had a conversation about some some toy that he liked when he was a kid because he was talking about the paintings. I love those. I had a tonker truck that I never was away from. I used to push this in my living, so I did but pretty big painting for him of a big, yellow, Tonker truck which which it always its oddly moving to everyone. When you do

they like that because it's just strikes something within them. Well, not only that if the rosebud of everyone you know guy tomorrow, but but what so nice about it as it were it we're in a culture where you know acknowledging people is generally through an email or a text at which requires little to no effort and that's kind of what we put so. If you hand right some on a letter, they freak out if you paint someone something from their childhood to a realistic degree. That's that's mind, bending in our culture. Today, that's incredible, but I like doing it. So I do it. I loved there is also a Reagan like that. The rig, I know a lot of Nickelodeon studios,

where I've done a lot of voice over work has a gallery space, which is for the artists that work on their ships. So a couple of the producers. There said what european enter. Why don't you you wanted you submit to actually take over the gallery? Space are acting in the show, so I'm the first person I got a solo show at Nickelodeon headquarters of my paintings or did about it, but once it in I had it ten or twelve they're. Pretty big paintings of of toys are hot wheels, car going through loop, the loop or big big painting, a view master just

five foot by five foot, painting of just a few master Anna, and so they say well, these are great Tom. We would love to have a solo exhibition of your work will need like fifty paintings. Why hello does it take it? Take did took a long time. It took a really long time and a lot of really late night, but but it was really I mean it was unbelievably satisfying and from that I I pitched ideas to Disney, because Disneyland was going through their fiftieth anniversary, so they were having Disney feature, artists thing where all the big Disney artist or painters from around the world we're doing Disney stuff, and I mean I I just went in there pitched my thing, which was every every artist. Pitching may well have Donald Duck and all the characters and Mickey Mouse and they're all on each other shoulders ha and there I was the only one who pitched. Why don't I do a gigantic painting of the right vehicle from DUMBO,

Oh wow dumbo, but its plastic with a gigantic hole in his side and a safety bar and a big red steel thing coming out of its side. That goes to the hub where DUMBO is, and they just went well nobody's ever said that I don't know what you know: Disney objects, the forty five I've record of the song: it's a small world that us at that kind of stuff. So I you know, I totally didn't deserve it, but I got accepted in his Disney thing and had a solo ambition of paintings. Disneyland event. At the Disney stood at the Dizzy gallery awesome here, so that was stout sprinkle, that's amazing into you. Don't. You have a gallery now that you have all your were about you. I do want to advise. It broke my heart a couple years ago, said there was a gallery fire and you lost a bunch of aiming to pay and that for an. I didn't really know you that well back, then, why? No really know you that will now, but I really didn't know you back then, and I it I wish I folded up inside cause. I just

not like losing a comedy nope workers like something that you can't recreate. Am EU ban of at least I figure a year and a half of really that use in a fire was gone what what what happened meetings, the restaurant next door just caught fire We are doing very well when was it at the restaurant next door and it was consumed by a fire which unfortunately, damage to the entire gallery that a lot of my paintings where it was down in Manhattan, Beach, california- and I wasn't there to see it, but everyone told me you ve, got to know that when they were bringing out your charred ruin paintings, the entire surrounded crowd was going. That makes me comics favorite

for you, that's down that, where I'm up in the valley here but friend, who lives in Manhattan Beach, just sought and thought it was like a half a block away. So he calls me is an absolutely says he looks like all your butt is a burning did so maybe get the insurance calls back in half an hour. Let me give me: I've bought music at the next block down, says pretty tough. Do you even the? Can you even get mad That is a like. Well add just really. I wish I was surprised at the extent to which I was really the extent to which the wind was taken out of myself From doing that, there were a lot of really a painting that took a lot a lot of work to do and they were and what we need. I guess get to our thing. Witches

The reason for the paintings, the underlying reason for the paintings that I was doing of the toys so heroically lit was they were all objects of popular culture like me, so in a sense, each of them was a self portrait. That's that's instead, genius! So each of them. When I made a jig geared to, I made an eight foot, long painting of a Tonker toy fire truck that was just gorgeous and people would look at that painting and say: hey they fired. I got this on Christmas.

My dad bought me visit. It was the same experience of when they see me who painting it painted it and they say: hey you're, the guy from that movie, as our drive and with my dad in nineteen, I gotta tell you the story because my parents were haven't, you know, so it's the same. The same experience and the same I just liked the fact, I was playing on the fact that no matter who bought the pay decent alot of people bought them in and their up in rooms that they couldn't not say who pays the better our rushed the arts kind of labyrinthine fugue of pop that I was doing with these painting. Specifically when a lot of burnt, it really hurt badly, but you know I tried that I tried Coming back, I'm going to be strong, I'm going to repaint five of them that I, like I'm, going to keep going and I painted two of them and I should

It is hard to go back it's hard to go backwards like once you what you put a lot of effort into one thing and then it gets destroyed aegis. For whatever reason at that moment in time that that's what was expressed ran it so hard to force that to happen again. So that was my statement of I get the whole pop objectification I'm playing on it? This is my own little artistic joke on it. Thank you good night. Well the comedian from the watchman. Well, now that I didn't there was an accidental subway when did you start doing stand up? I started to set up a nineteen seventy nine holy shit I was, I was studying acting with theater, and I was doing that if improvisation and that kind of stuff- and a couple of my friends did stand up, and again you know I was the young acting soon NOS nineteen years old, looking domino's at everything, because I was going to single handedly save the amount.

Theatre yeah it anyhow. I was young Marlon Brand or whoever studying hard in New York City and gritty. Actually I was from the suburbs you have that debate. Team Actually I had to break team Moxie nobody's going to Russian Audrey at any moment, but a couple, my friends did stand up and started hanging out with them and honestly, the beginning my stand of curry was they think it guess? survival rate. It was totally. Would you get a cheeseburger out its? Yes? Sometimes they give you ten bucks for the trainers, you'd think you money out of it because I'm doing stuff? The believe me is for free. You know I pay for

food and then I'll pay you at the end of mine. You get ten bucks and a cheeseburger well all guph off on stage in that way, and so I started just experimenting on stage alone doing stuff, and then it was so early was so pre comedy boom that you would just get like fifteen dollars gigs at a party somewhere in a restaurant, some guy. I consider myself a comedian, but some guy calls you as we gotta go to New Jersey. You know I need three guys. I can't find any body it. Fifteen dollars and I got food there. You know I'm not comedian, I don't care man, but care just come and waste. Like seven minutes time on stage and introduce me

they'll do a teenage just a year ago, so yeah with a duct tape and chicken wire and a note book I just started said well what the ok, what would I think would be funny if I've onstage and just started writing an undue, Stana Bow and then ends. And was it when you kind of decidedly await, I think maybe I'm actually stand up now I was of, I was a very bad stand up for a while, because of because, like everybody I was, I was just sort of doing in pressure and of what I thought a stand up. Community might act like be like, and I had act fully trained in theater I mean I took a lot of classes and I went to you went to a lot of love school for for acting in theater. I thought wait. A minute is to play. Is my own play, I'm a character in a play.

It is a piece of theatre of that's an interesting approach, and so for whatever. However many minutes, I have that's how long the players, so it's not depressed Tom or Desperate Tom or any kind of talk, is onstage Tom. In my play, which is my show- and I take the day- I did that I I got good fast cars, young good fact well, cause I always you know I always used to think like well. We know when you're, trying to find your voice and comedy which always takes fuckin forever there is a certain point: Rosato humiliation right for the character of me, whoever that is, but then them you know them the more. You think it's this other thing. It's a very bizarre expired. When you realise that one day like I don't know it's just me, it's just me is this you, but but it's here of course it's it's an enhanced version of you, the Afghan onstage, you because that's all we have ultimately will always, I think, see an impression of a comic details, but I bet

must feel like that. You know during your sort of comedy journey you're watching the two paths of the on character of you in the person. Who is? Actually you get closer and closer, and it's kind of that. That day, when they meet, I think is when you become like a master I might very about. It is very true, very true that I had it took a long time. For me, it took a long time in my adult life just to get used to the fact of being physically large. Just I was really I mean we joke about having the inner duck or whatever, but I was a kid who was beaten up by every body and then I just got big and I was doing creed. I was out at night clubs and doing it took a long time just to get used to it. Well, when people safely

their when guys push people around. I dont have to take their today like no very a lot about you shouldn't talk like that, and then they go. Oh ok, what a great experience of over a dirty kid do. A big dude just watch the way, people just a watch. Human animals tree the Berlin. When I got big, for example, I have a loud voice. You know my chest is big and I just speak. I speak clearly with diction and an end loudly and for until I was in my thirties. I would be embarrassed because people ok man, but why? Why is shared? We're still right here or whatever? It was just me using my normal voice. Should a punchline identity bad right and that you are or what our understanding in a place and ok, I'm taller than

Regards that we can manage it wanted to shrink down, is uploaded to exhale chest man, I'm I'm just standing here. I am allowed to stand so I swear in my thirties. I really onstage. It was so like look. This is how big I'm ok, I'm a large caliber human being. When I too, when I laugh at a restaurant, yes, everyone looks at me because I'm bigger than you you don't like it. Don't look at me anymore now. Did you get big because he made a wishing to fortune telling machine it appear as it would have an idea, and you just woke up giant and among Pollyanna around Tom? Let me have your hangs in your head. He said well, you know I don't know. I don't know how much you want to talk about back to the future. I know about it. It is much you will realise that what about you but listen, I it to us all our degree. People still asked me if I fuck Jenny, Mccarthy from ninety ninety five and

It's you know and I always is kind of like I always play I now you know they always say with this enthusiasm of all that I am the first person to ask that I've always like. Ok, ok! I was I was shooting em. I didn't. I didn't have sort of Med TV in the nineties. And bury Williams was on that episode and we're having come station and any play Gregg Brady, and so this What came out of gay people eyes asked about this, and then I'm kind of glazed over and he listed like ten answers that he's all. He's heads. You know now The dog ran away. No, we were just friends, no Alice did this note, has an alibi came from Bob and and then Like. Oh I'm, a piece of shit I mean that's, you know you when dealing with this for thirty layer has he doesn't he literally list them off right in front of you, you just bang, Bang, Bang, Bang, Bang Bang up again for their lives. Those, and I think it was a very limbs ethic you. So you know how did you what was it was just an audition,

They did something to stand up and how they got involved. The movie I was just an audition, decided I had previously to that. I had acted in big things like Knight rider. That was very big debate of life. Yes, yes, I was moved the football player you spending that money on scholarships. We need a new school board for the football team. You're like I've made you know a few years ago. I was a whipping kid gettin pushed around with asthma. Now here I am acting with Nancy Marquez right now to begin, and I got into a fight. Why not not for real Joe youngest, Joseph and Moose yeah Joe and Moose got it fight, Nance Jovial, and I got along very Joe Joe? Probably one could she was tough kid right, editorship, yeah and when I was coming back the next weeks without me, I was aware, though I cannot hating jocks and bullies and then becoming.

They just played another year: Social Experiment, India in the first audition for back to the future they pair up, they they paired up actors, I mean I had. I had gone to two audition and my agent got me in there. What have you have to see the sky and I was put on the spot, the casting director, I come in young guy and she says well you're supposed to be God's gift to acting. Let's get that badly exact. So I will k so I go through the scene and she says let me bring MIKE in here, you don't whatever, and he comes in whenever I get call back as soon as they started. Thinking about casting, they started to pare us up with people. The first person I was peered up with was Crispin,

lover. So far does it with Tony and this guy does without one and Tom and Crispin go off and you audition together. So we take the view that they had written. There was even secret. Then they had written special audition material for us, the two or three pages to do with each other so on. This is to your point two of the nerd kid whose playing a bullet right. So we go on age whenever hers let's go outside and we're not sustained inside just waiting, let's go out behind the bushes over here and will just kind of were hearse and run it. So the scene began with me. So it's ok, let's rights on reading the reply. Have you done my homework and he placed he didn't even speak. His body changed into this frail question mark and he looked at me like well. If I just

stop the scene because I almost started crying. Oh my god, because you view you let your because I've got staring at myself all night. So I stopped where and he's at what what's of that clear your adamant that everything swat evidence for every. Let's do it again due to get fly heavy, so I got into it, but it was hard to do initially. It was really hard to do now. That's a laser Crispin and I went through the entire audition process, as guys would be paired imitation within ok tone. Now you do with Todd time until you do it to get Crispin an Crispin and Tom, and these guys all switch an Crispin in top. So, through the entire process, we were kind of staying together and that it was a long process because

and make us, does a lot of. He wants to really cast the right people, so they made me up in old age, make up like all kinds. If that I wasn't in getting paid but they're like Tom, would you come in for like up most of the day and will you up in old age, make up, and then you audition as the older character oak. Ok, I gotta go to stand, Jersey for a sandwich exactly so now they just put you in emotion captures right, so I did a lot of additions like that and then and then I got it, we're gonna go. Did you start the? Did you say? Did you start the fellow there extolled sorted? That was, I show their extolled for six or seven. We you did we Schaeffer. We shall almost the whole movie and we pretty much done. We were at the point where you're looking at each other like so you got anything lined up after this.

Shows or whatever and then and then Numb, and that things were difficult on the set Eric was it was. It was not easy. He was doing the barbarian method. He thing you know everybody call me Marty of exactly whose play my mom one trying to make out with rhino off camera many men. They method, method, method, heartache, no method, so you'll use do not stop it was it was. It was kind of difficult. I didn't and of course this, my first big before that I was killed in a conflict movie and it was on the facts of life and right writer right. So I'm on this movie and of course I think, oh, it's me, you know it's gotta. Be me, everyone is talking about. Behind my back research programme. Does you can tell us that there was attention and something wasn't right? So then they actually they stop production. We're not working today, not working today

are they closing the movie down or whatever and there's no one? I closed the movie down we're just not working today. Ok, so I'm at home, I get a phone call from Bob Gale, the producer of the movie Hinton. Listen. Could you come down to the studio we'd like to talk the fuck up? and I was told us about. Could you just tell me right now, I'll just tell me over the phone man, because I really I'd like to hear what ever you had to say right now, that'd be great we'd really liked it. You in person, cheese. So if you could come down right now Bob's and make Us- and I would like to meet with you so I take the longest drive my life and I do not. I mean I'm shaken Arabs, listen Tom, you states they cool when they fight you stand up like a gentleman gentlemen, each shake their had you. Why thank you for the opportunity?

it didn't work out and then you know alaskan fishing boat or what I wanna go by that I mean that our school exactly and will quit and no one will ever see us again and everything will be fine. So go and whose office Bob Gales Office and then Crispin comes in so So when the Rubik's Cuban, my brain is he's going crazy. Now, turning to the sector, not stopping it, I guess I'm for Chris I find that there are currently say: listen you're, fine, but we just need to talk to you right right, so they sit Crispin down and to tell us what pretty gravely listen. Fellas. We just want to say this thing is going and tacitly you know you guys are spectacular. The movie is unbelievable, but the bad news we ve had to fire Eric.

Milk, like a cartoon character from each year on the ground and, I'm just say, I'm sort of laughing and unjust, but I kind of saved it too kind a go. Is he ok, because I am so um so Eric was fired and they say we ve got guy Michael J Fox, whose on a tv show family ties, and he's gonna come on in an redo all those parts of the movie did you have to reshoot everything today? keep stuff from the original and other. There is this. Is this a good there's, a big argument? I think, because I think they would have to pare extols. I think it is my belief that Erics doses fist punches me in the fifties CAFE whose I do not think that we re shot. That because was a close up of me now the editors and everyone.

Out there who I think, are interested in their skins or what I know. That's that's not true, rather than ever appears and had just like look. I get punished in the face by somebody. I guess you want to sell it as it being a stunt man, but I think it was Eric stalls and I think first comes through and punish them like an eighty four eighty five elect. Why were you? Gonna have machines or they can just these brave things with clarity, but they have no one ever gonna know that, frankly, fist I saw some of the false argument. Not about you, I was because they I saw some of the footage of Eric stalled. No, I believe they put it on the Blu Ray you knew they were going to cause they're, saying no one will ever see their this did all this footage is going to be stored right next to the lost arc owing to and I'm like they're going to assume they can make money off it. You know them, though he never. He bear a basically it look. Like he was playing they and they think they even alluded to, or they set may have just said. You know he was play. It a little more a little

Arthur and a little more like matters fund and in oh dear burning about has given a very different thing, a very different thing. What would you have me, sir? I think I think was bad and I wasn't the friendly to me. I got fired a couple days before he was you gotta get his head, pounded in because in the scene, in the cafeteria, where he's pushing me and Strickland comes up yeah, like TAT, ate it, and I'm almost punching him in the face. He was pushing me so with his whole method that the method was very strong toward me, rhino, so Keziah their beer, the antagonists course. So he was, I mean he was driving the heels of his hands hard into my collarbone. I mean really pushing me and, and I'm talking to between takes you early takes.

Here Marty you got is really I mean it's additive, it's a movie. We can just bring me back, I mean I will. I will move back if you push me like I'm jutting back, read so we'll be cool, but just like you really either break my collarbone man and he pretends. He really doesn't hear me because I'm not the scene with him at that point and take to my father bones and also partly Eric, but this is a move, but it's only in pretty ten times when you're getting paid that you can push me like that. An item punch you right in the face, so you know, let's circular bam. I hedge huge bruises on my chest and my colleagues were killing me. So you got stuff like so many method. Actors like myself as a well live by the method die by method. A couple, a night's I'm.

Are you out of that car at the dance and we're going to see what happens then, because we're gonna totally method this so and so many go far, so I never. I never got to do it. Do you think about it some time now I don't care by man you're right now You know that, so that was that was the right thing, but Eric, I think, is a nice person in everything he was when it was a long time it ever was young. Who knows what goes through people's minds when their kids and there I don't have any deal about me. I think I really you for you guys, because your friends or whatever sure I'm not talk about the movies, but it's not to it. Really not merely in my consciousness as much as it is in the kind of it really is because in- and you know, you know movie like that too, to a bunch of kids. A bunch of nerdy kids. That was the hour. You know that that was one of those

movies. That's like it's! It's safe! I alerted kid any where and it's amazing and you know only move ever andand laser. This Betamax VHF Dvd and blew it. I mean it's not even acted, you have everything you know I'd then I feel like you, you, you understand as part of that part of the part of all of the good about that, but if it is just be that movie was one of those movies that do you know that change the direction of so many kids law I've than was like you yeah I've been very gratified. By that I mean I've. Look I brought a kid out of a coma in Scotland. What ok, because money Well, I got an email from the family and everything in the kid was in a terrible car accident that that had fatalities. He was in a coma for weeks and the dead finally said he's a huge back to the future fan just play them

we over and over and over and over, and he came to thinking. Why does Biff keep yelling have? Why does Biff keep you only so he literally opened his eyes. You know, I guess and I would be their whatever. So I'm not a doctor, No, but I had a throbbing about a common view. Welcome Scotland, but I understand that. I think that I think that its struggle, you look, it's not some big shirt, ensure problem pleasurable, but people would like to express something to me of how much that meant that absolutely and I try to express to them that I get what they're saying, but I dont think its ever enough for them You know: there's nothing you can say back to them are going to be gratifying whose they need to somehow peak into my soul or something to suggest me Butthead.

Conflict. That is the way I was trying to say, and I am just try and I'm saying that thank you very much I appreciate that very much, and I know it's meant a lot to a lot of people. It means a lot to me you're, thank you and there's some longing that they're going I really wasn't enough with the right kind of its because they feel, like you know they they want to. They want you to connect with them. The way that day connected with this thing, dead and but there's no way that you can ever yet. I mean it's because it so deep seated right, you can't ever for you can ever feel that can't you can fill it and more camel Canton and nobody can right now,

again have now who ever met over who is have you met like heroes and of yours that you did you ever feel that the tables reverse all? Absolutely all the time tat. I met the base pairs Stanley Clark and I was, I could barely speak now. Nobody knows who Stanley Clark is, but I was you kind of. It the two ballplayer, a jazz, lower brass player and had based players in everything and stately Clark was an amazing could of jazz fusion base player, and I was this kind of exploding. It but I was the door man many store in the early eighties. Oh my god, I was doing the door when Richard prior was sort preparing all of his life on the sunset eyes and everything. So everyone was coming to the company start that, with this is pre comedy both this is nineteen. Eighty.

On eighty to ride on the edge of it Richard prior was there every night, so every one was coming to the comedy, store and edible spot. It was fun and on call my brother age, you Mick Jagger what stage last night with a bunch of Mickey. Agora, Willie, Nelson or bans you know they, the kinks came and had a booth, and there was so much there was so much, but fire of that Oppositional comedy thing going on that, whatever motley Who would come in and realise that they were? No, they had long hair and they were big rob, but they didn't do close to what comics we're doing on stage right that right, which was really free and very, very passionate and inspired so make a long story short everyone's coming there. It was really neat to kind of meat, Willie, Nelson or loans. Stephen still make it

it is a long story long by the way, I'm fascinated by what I was greatly to to lend Stephen still make a tar and let him play some songs or or whether all that stuff and oddly for me, Stanley Clark walks up the steps and unlike the statement that was that was really one that I was that it was really impressed with an engine of course stars. I'm at Jimmy Stuart and, of course I mean Jimmy Stewart, in a gym. Carry historic! Much like this. You know that the stars and I've done exactly the same thing- that you're walking toward Jimmy Stuart and your mind is screaming dont gush. Yes, don't embarrass yourself, just say Mister Stewart. What a jewel to meet you, you know I'm such a fan, and I know everyone bothers you and I'm sorry to bother you, but I just want to say I love you you're the best. Thank you and I'm coming up. I get closer and closer and of course he turned to me and I go.

Mister Stewart. You thought about that. I actually use Lee markets performance in the men who shot liberty balance as my basis for back to the future. Three, where I played mad dog tat, every kind of thing we actually before the first back to the future bottlenecks actually play us. It's a wonderful life to see that kind of time travel, sort they within a personal at so that hallowed him. I just unload everything as my brow shut up shut up, so I ended regulations. Manatee is he goes. Great fool and his wife was their glorious, Stuart. Who was is used to that whose very accustomed to fool like me coming up for discussion, so she kind of came in and was very kind of gracious in talking to both of us, and it became a very nice moment, but of course right after I had wrecked well now it's just hard because it's you know it's. You know that the does

people and those things. That's the kind of define who we are. It's just is just too deep down to not like when it starts bubbling to the day when you keep it down most of the time, but then it starts bubbling surface. I had that was still Martin years ago, and I regret that live on that ology instead marked used me in the crowd he should have worked, and I was the third row when he was doing the bigger the study I he picks out somebody then he picked me out. I was a huge fan. He stood me up, he made fun of me. I thought I could die that day the under he's making fun of was laughing at me. At the end he says a term just have a little. Had your expense? Let me just rise to Heaven, Steve Martinets bubbles, but I've. Never I've never met him. I'd love to, but I wouldn't go, but from what I hear from everybody just dear don't do that

it just like it immediately. What would have acted like a bad man and in the timber Batman where the car just like them shields like he just immediately, but I do, as we said. Look, I do the same thing. I don't. I don't think I've brought people offer whatever, but one point in it early on what is getting bigger and we get back to the few she drew back to the future and comes out loud gray and everyone's saying it's great. Whatever for a time eggs while it's it's unbelievable that it gets bigger and bigger not going down. It was in theatres for over a year yeah. So it's getting so here I thought six times writer so gets big that you just like to rob everybody, so you have to figure out early. How may go to deal with this end and it is building a Teflon exoskeleton yeah Badge is kind of work getting, so you can't really get there get get

into mere at an airport right when you just screaming but had at me yeah. I swear I mean I've been like for you. Whatever twenty six years now, I dont know how to respond. I dont know what they want me to say Yeah I just pay has gone They just want to fire little Spiderman, whether your face and just like, go hey. I know you're, then there's nothing you just like here, so I dont respectfully speaking like yours, I dont think that people I realise how unbelievably ubiquitous it is in. Every room you walk into in air everywhere. You note the policeman who stops you or the die their, whose examining, whatever anything it's it's it's just.

Everywhere. We are to do this. It will be examined by the doctor. Maybe he's grabbing your balls and telling you to call me, like you know, I really loved vat of new like really worth almost almost very close, very clear, Deming front. So for you that's pretty much. I mean that's pretty much your first. Movie right? You say I did it come from everywhere. I killed him, then uninjured Turfy our case. They are killed and injured, have thought it's your second big movie. I mean does that that must do weird things too. Your mind because it sort of teaches you like you can just get a big movie. You just get a big movie or did do or do you do you feel like you were just weirdly superstitious about it like? I know this isn't supposed to happen. I was, I wasn't at all an ego test or anything, but when I came to allay it was because I thought I was good. Read so

I didn't think I better than everyone who was on back to the future or on better than anyone else doing other move that whoever would judge Reinhold or the guys who I was seeing at audition, Sir Bill packs dinner TIM Robins, but in doing a bumblebee like back to the future movies that I did after that, I did think I belong like nobody's, thrown me out, I'm sort of at the top of the mountain of professional people doing what they do and I'm right here with everybody, you swing and you know so so so that's what I thought so after that movie. I just thought I was always proud of what I do. Still am Andrew. Just went on to do stuff, it is funny that term- and in this this always this- this happens in in a performers, life, it's like you I feel like it's rare. You really get to choose what the thing is: gonna be

but everyone's you know cuz everyone. Everyone has to have their so much information, so I don't have to categorize every person, and I like okay, you're, that guy this guy in applicants the hot pockets guy he's just like fuck, that's just a bit like writing. Wasn't anything extra? me. I just got a thing. I wrote that's the thing that caught on, I didn't plan that, if it actually I for a while, it seemed like a great thing: and then for a longer period of time. It seemed like a horrible thing and then

one time ago now what, when I was going through the processes that we go through in our lives, and then I think, ultimately it was very healthy because it forced me cause everywhere. I went people just yell and stuff and that's all they saw of meat. So what it did was forced me to go inside myself to be very satisfied with the person, an artist that I am like. I was a comic, so not a lot that people set about me mattered. To me very much, you know I mean I got that from high school get beat up by bullies and everything that I was always an outsider. So I had a pretty good thing about. I don't care what people say, but once people are just saying whatever I mean you ve the ito, I did a lot of movies, but is that the only thing that was that it did it? And after so you have to go inside. You suffer though, but I honestly don't care what anybody says. I'm cool with me,

the person. I am with the with the artistic pursuits that I've made, and you know I don't care, I woke up. I know look, it's gonna, be the first law I'm on my obituary, but we'll be there reading it, so I don't care with those like a weird like fustian clause or a twilight zone episode. Words like I want the famous actor and they go dang and then just for you know every day of your life. Is that one thing and I don't think I don't think most people can really appreciate that I mean yes, of course you know. So. Beware like they shut the fuck up. You do you're a big favor loser yeah, but but every day, every fuckin day after awhile gets a little grey and then for people to ask you I kind of now I didn't snap, but I was a kid. I was at packs this this game convention and the steward companies like dude. I love singled out as I got a dozen news like whatever happened you after that, unlike I like,

its people do just go rather Harry your laptop will your I am dvd or they data lives like the. What what have you done like? Why? Don't I dont want to Lisbon thing Zambia selling a piece of shit. You can't lissom, I just go. The internet has a lot of stuff about it. In fact, let me let me get off microphone. I know I know its vision, will and not an we're up and were audio here, but this I actually had this made, which is you know the postcard I can sign for people legislation, It will give me a thing: Gimme, a napkin given a well. I have a thing. So it's my face and I signed a pat on the back- is possible. If you're not wearing a few other back randomly. So it's us, so it's just I just you know and then I go look. This is just a nice time sabre that I figured out. So you know don't be insulted, but it's sort of saying, like I've heard it before and we

cool, so here's the thing is I just that I'm Time Wilson, I wasn't all three back to the future movies. Michael J Fox is nice, I'm not in close contact with them. Christopher Lloyd. Is nice he's a very shy man, Crispin glamorous than usual bananas unusual, as is sometimes presents himself. We go along nicely Leah tablet. Is nice extorts originally played Marty both to perform its issues? The first shuffling nights in Haiti Should we review the progress that this is an issue that was only just the first. As the first thirty visit reduced going down the third when we was my favorite since they got to learn western skill, roughing bright island my place of loved you hard. I lost my place many tiny there, many tiny plot or points hidden in the movies. Ok, but I don't know what they are

Oh six, you to a great adventure for a guy from Philadelphia. I, like all workers in the best life, would have no idea what it is negative love love is more for, in material possessions made less money than you think I don't talk about the movies, but because I'm busy withstand of county musical performance. A volume contact me Tom Wilson, you, as they d, come yeah. I heard yeah yeah. That's me that is that if that is absolutely amazing, but then I dont mean rudely no actually mean how useful it is helpful to you, it's helpful to me. I am perfectly willing to talk about other things. You know, but I just you know, I've been there. So that's! Ok. What do you say? Hey what sports teams deal. I got what whatever among many improvisations on this, that I go in the terms, but it as well as make like a tree and get out of here This is genius tat. This is genius and your people take it pretty. Well

Did you do the cool? Then, if I have to make a lot of now, because if you give it to one person and suddenly taken I ain't, what does Europe absolutely take em? Can I can I public? Can I put this on the website the efficacy of our wealth and efficacy of an earnest limits. For me, how often you run into a celebrity and say: oh hi, there is really call me to it and, like all you really can walk away with, is the story of meaning you give em a keepsake which is more than I think Saint Martin wouldn't for, whilst Martin would give people a card that service certifies that I met Steve Maria S, adding he was a wonderful and kind have something like that like us. If so desperate autograph, that's what it's up, but I realized how big the backed it features. Things are, and I've been on with what our Academy award winning actors and I'm the guy, I'm like practically the pizza delivery guy I give I'm working for three days and they say tat. Did you pay vat and they have given my

if you just as he was, I give them some starboard commitment. You have any thing dared that you pay vat be happier if my overboard pay the emails that I receive that so funny. That really is I love you. I think your magnificent you're, the best thing that ever been do you have any equipment that you took from what I'm sure I'll. Just the idea, of course, and I ll just give their universal didn't die and everyday third movie was so. I like, I had no pants left. Everyone likes people ribbon stuff off, just left and right, Not me, but you know they would you please be careful with these time. We'll have one pair left one pair right. We feel that we should have a two year, whether just disappearing, so well, Pacific you on the sites of people. Can I mean it's really it an ethic, you biography its breadth, perfect. This is perfect, but I'm, but still I have

say in the back of my head. I can't stop thinking about you working adored, the comedy, storing the seventy in the seventies and eighties and watching Richard prior worker and then just the common who were some of the other comic at the time that were that you're that you're saying I was seeing J Leno all the time, Bob sag it all the time I can send their Kennison was there Kennison and I were sort of an warring factions. It was seen of cyanide. We gotta, kill it how much time do we have read at all and I realized tat, really tough, SAM. Salmon idea I freely made didn't get along and- and I am one who who hopes that he is well wherever he might be. So I but what was would take us video SAM was there and SAM had a cousin of of people that I called the Kennison youth that we're not just kind of

droopy, lidded, junkie, kind of people without I thought- were for wasting their lives and not very bright, so yeah SAM. If you were new comedian around there, he had this very, very coolly, sing song way of kind of getting into your inner circle or into your head hey man, you really happen. Monsters sets up there man, yet while Bagman Umbria cool well, I just you know we're getting together this place and I just want- and you know what kind of sense that it was just recruiting right for the club, so I was like school won't have to. Yeah just do shows used of I'm just do it shows and whatever I lived in a house with their Andrew Dice Clay and allows me, oh my house, up like enmities, how we're already room at credible: at the house up the hill. So we were like the early group. There was a lot of unbelievable debauchery that have

after we left, but believing Yok, often Andrew and myself were basically clean living guys we were just do it shows red who were in the house, and SAM was trying to get up there to make it the lair, and we kind of we started through him out for me, a bad lifestyle decisions, and so there was a lot of resentment with that. So I didn't voluntarily enter his coven brand. He got kind of here trying to move into the house and we were gonna. Do that's? That's not happened, and so we we kind of

we don't get along like an early episode? Alas, comic standing about that. We know that we come to this house a good man. This is this, should be a tv show or somethin. It's crazy by a salmon are finally came to a head. He was more than he was doing like I said to me quite unwise things with one's life and its innocence. It's insane to me that he could he died in a car accident and that that that the true that it wasn't the trucks- I don't know man, I you know, I saw it It really sounds judge mental and bad, and I really kind of Munich charitably. I know so many guys who are dead now and so many of them you just knew it was gonna happen, not even from drugs. It was just like he just doesn't want to be here. Destruction, aunt Ellen, is already here and keep doing this stuff. Didn't you see the film strip

sixth grade I mean I will have problems in their lives. I know that I know those people make decision, but really it's back to. Maybe the nerd thing is ultimately. Is it just now smarter than you did. I just say that I just see the films trip ago. Well, that's that's the looks pretty stupid of me, so I guess I will do that. You know what it is. It's it's there's this there. This very weird, weird thing and you know I I put a lotta, I put a lotta comedians and inert can't because their very you know very hyper where in Indiana with their hyper dissect everything and I think you know a lot of comedians I had it, I have it and I had it too, which is its just self destructive to self destructive thing, because you you almost as much as you hate when shitty things happened. Some people cannot emotion We wrapped their minds around anything good happening and when it does, they feel like they have to tear down to get there to the sort of weird shitty comfort.

That they were in before, and I think maybe that some of those already prince I mean before him and all the way down to do so. Many guys up the ito, it's a cliche now, but you you get a lot of money and you go wait a minute, I'm the same guy with a nice car. Ultimately, that's it right! I just can afford more snack vote, no weird transformation and failing to have it ought. I would be king, so yeah, so SAM got into it with no we got well was very. We had a big big fight backstage the main room didn't seem like you, isn't that great a shape ivy, he wasn't, but you have a lot of people around. I was sure he had guys with him and Karl above and Fred Asparagus, and many many can a hanger on people that were that were with him, but he

we Brian Bradley who was he was M, seeing the main room stage and he comes up to me. It is high time we gotta. We, we ve given send the light for about twenty minutes, because they get off stance, solicit we're going to turn off the MIKE and just like turn off the lights or whatever to be done. He needs he has to get off stage was their other guys, it he's doing this every week. So what you see is what you just stand next to me, so he doesn't punch me in a because last time I said: hey man, you do a lot of time. He said Well, we know he broke a guy's legs in Texas or whatever, and I would see big at this point was ass before or the ninth of energy on comedian Special, the kind of broke Emma was ass. He was he was getting. He was getting big at that point, but there he was not famous at that time, so he was

dicey, protected areas of me. He actually Europe that the story goes, and I wasn't there that night, but that that argues Hamilton. The comic was choking mature out in her office, and SAM was going up the stairs in order to make a phone call whatever, and he heard kind of choking squeaky shrieking kind of things from the office broke into the office knocked Argus all committee, but I do know from that point on SAM got that a spot in the main every night, from from the two in the morning, guy screaming at eight people too, made her baby while four hundred people to do your thing at it and he could do no wrong. Third accept, go really long, Brazil. I wish to make a long story short. I just stood there and I was like I guessed to SAM. I represented a box of weeds

with an american flag unless it's not like. I was like that, but you see you know he early. I had said no to the carbon thing. I said you know I'm just doing my thing and so he he kind of took it out on me and I, when we got into a big they, but is one of those it became comedy folklore, because a lot of committees were backstage for it where he started going, don't get in my face was almost say, hey SAM, I'm not you know, we're just said you do it in our man. Come on. Everybody gets a twenty twenty five, but don't get in my face and said. Well, you know if it's a question your face or not I'm not fine. Let's say I'm in your face. I you know Something happened or what and then he acts, and then people of people are witness to this than he kind of turned beat read his face, started shaking and he said

dont unleash me, do every That's too bad guys! I ride out. There were don't me and I'll just go. Do your unleashed. What happens now? I only issue. I'm in your face. It is something happens now. Are you walk away from standing right here, only go for it and so yeah. He start throwing chairs and left. So that was the big. You know how comedy yeah became the thing that years later, I'm doing less

german and Euro and Letterman rejoice in the commercial. But what's the deal with you Kennison, oh wow, I heard about that thing in the main room, so it went everywhere, but it was. It was attempted a teapot. It wasn't, it wasn't a big deal, but we were of warring factions, SAM and his cousin of followers and me gap. The vampires. Nowhere was what what what was that both the common, seem like me like when people actually we're going out to Sea Club comedy in LOS Angeles Slimming was it. Did you been out to a clubs recently LOS Angeles sure I mean I would like to live, in other words, even at a comedy sore. I guess that's what I've been reasonably store in ages, writers now so we should like, as if I was just there. Soon, as I have two nicholls to rub together. Goodbye ran right, so I have been back and in a long long long time was it was it really was. A kind of

You see the golden age of Club comedy ballade. Absolutely it was. It was yes, it would under the guy, my electric wheelchair, let me tell you about the age when comedians were actually respect, us ask grab a very small window of time, we're people actually honoured and respect. I am violating I've, thank God, motivating I am a bit, but it was the comedy, store, main room has over four hundred seats yeah and they were to pack chose on Friday and to pack chosen today, the original room has some yield to fit, three hundred I dont know. Next to it, there was the main room, as is in fact Awesome fear as well remedies. Zeros was the biggest night club in Hollywood during like the forties and fifty's, where gable would go out with with with actresses in everything with their mink

goals, and I see francs and not all the gangster ghosts apparently still hardware exactly so so so it was a big nightclub. So it is one of those big old to me, their Youtube videos that people took an old old movies of joy. Going acts in eighteen. Forty seven arose on Youtube and stuff, so amazing they had the foresight to put it on. You, too, back. Then it really is a monopoly that that's how that's how ahead of its time, cereals. Well, thanks to the sixty millimeter Youtube share button. Where exactly big room. It was very, it was tat, was it was great worth every did. You were did? Who are some of the comments that you really were like? Oh, my god, you have a guy that guy, If every time they came into the room you had to kind of sneak in and then watch their set will. Certainly, everyone gathered at the back. Walter watch, richer prior read every show because he was the most of it

in committee, and I never. I never got to see him I've. What was that exploit? Was that, like it was, it was an artist. But a working man going to work. He would come and he's getting ready to do one of his movies and he would come, and the first night was almost nonsensical stream of consciousness. Tat You would bring em up. I brought him up a million times if I was empty and that night by children's welfare kindly store, we have a tree tonight. Let please welcome richer prior and everyone laughs like you must be joking enriched priorities, those crazy and then he would just start talking and even richer prior would get but say Richard prior we get

eight minutes of coasting, no matter what you say we're into it and we're into you and then the audience, though, at that point like us at the audience, had respect for him. So I think almost as a you'd like a group psychology to oh he's working on ideas, right, so everyone would quiet down and allow him to work, to try to put things together on stage to try and they were taping every show. And he would go up into the belly room or two with with Paul Mooney and with a couple of other of other friends of his and a couple of bodyguards, and they would hoon what was funny there. What what was in there. That was good. Well, the thing where you went to Africa or whenever you you have to tell a story about this and I'll, tell you. The next show was

a bit better and the next show was a little bit better than that and it's like he was playing a piece of wood yeah. You know or something like he was making an arrow. I just every show just taking a strip of wood off it and you just an act at the half way. Point Commodore thinking to disguise and another league This is really something, and in a matter of months it's an hour in fifteen minutes, crushing the crushing and you'd, make a movie or do something they go and then don't we wouldn't say for what I saw Chapelle do that at the open first Chapelle a bunch in over for a week in San Francisco at the punchline, and it wasn't- I don't really know Dave. I just I was supposed to be head lining, and then you know they were like. Our Dave wants to stick around and do shows and unlike what what everyone's and I watched that same exact thing, he would start out at the beginning of the week, just kind of

If in around and fucking around and in night to you'd, start to see that it's dead the lava web, you start to see these blobs take shape, and in the next night it would become a blanket, a tangible object. Then he'd put litter. Bells and whistles on them by the end of the week, was like. Oh, my guy, just fucking, whilst a classic bid form in the span of four days, and I give reach for even more credit. I was, I was there a night in the original room where he was having a really hard time. He wasn't putting his ideas together well, and he was he actual. It took so long that it was actually kind of doing badly and people sensed it and he's kind of wedding and he's looking in the lights and everyone's doing that in the silence. We love you wretched. Whatever he's joke into the guy- and he says you can act- excuse me this is the first time I ever performed straight wow

so poor servants clock, we love you, man, oh yeah, go! Let you go with you, but he took it and said I will try to do this straight and he did it. He did it. You know that, but they had a hot utopia. Was it was an adjustment period for, while how do I approached this thinking, com, we clearly which he just wasn't used to yeah, but he was such that it was so amazing. To me I mean I'm unama, I'm a total dork when it comes to the evolution of quality. And why was it? You know But when you watch got in that, there's just no there's a handful of people that I think back that really that really popped as Oh, no, they were talking about real shit that they were going through and not just trying to make the audience laugh and it really independent. MAC, I that at home- and I think it was a maximum of life and a sense of trip me was the next special where he talked about catching elect,

the drugs and getting own genuine liars tree had a heart attack in and all that stuff it was due to the different. It was just a damn. You could sense like either really something going on their other. Then you know hey sock, hangers or small absolutely, but there were, but at that time nobody everyone knew what what comedy was but stand up was a million different thing was a million different things because the culture didn't lock on to the brick wall behind the guy with the microphone. Which happen with what my evening at the improv and every kind of combat, unless you have any out, although shows come up a comedy because, oh ok, you you do you stand in front of a brick wall with a microphone, and you talk about that. That's just that then there- and that was just the labor of televised comedy. You have to do short. You know to cram logic, comics and you do short five minutes sets in or you don't really that's rare. You don't really get to only a handful of people get to do.

With specials and people really get a sense of who they eyes. You know, though, if you're gonna be that guy who's going up, onstage and saying this is really my authentic life, and I want to share with you You need a lot of people who are willing to listen to you. A lot of people were going Yemen, I'm here for you and I'm willing to listen to where you lead me and increasingly, I think that's Prieta yeah. I think that's pretty tough so back. Then there was richer prior and their work eyes like that. But there were all kinds of there were just musical ass impression and we get off yet our young enough was just you know here. Here's this kind of like one dimensional, It's easy to digest. You know it's put its like. It was relevant because of what was going on. Politically in the world at the time and will use making Mommy Yucca was Russia. He was doing a thing that was making money for him. That was like he beat the system

right right. He figured out a way to just make a lot of money, but do you feel, do you think a guy like yak off who you know just like us in America we're just like ours, regular, like white guys. We have to come up with whatever it is. Our thing is, you know, but yak of his russian medically. Has a hook automatically he's a russian guy, so do. Did you ever feel like us but I wish I had a thing and I absolutely I play for the first number of years that I was ever do. Instead of I play the tube in my back to them. I know now I took a lot of heat for that. You know I was like the to Bulgaria J Leno. If he sees me now just for as a joke from like nineteen, eighty, three, where you do but well I haven't, played one.

John Jay where's, your educated women that promoted by about what I really want to because because of that, because you like what what what? What what can I do that we'll just have them say: oh, that guy right, not just another big guy. Just Jesus Weird a lot of different varieties. What's that about it's almost the short you know you you're almost wish. There was the short cut and when I started in common, I start working the business United Manager, who was like you need to figure out what you talk is like I don't No, do I, where big ties are to its like? No, you know like. Ultimately, there aren't shortcuts and you those guys are based. I think, on what sick. Would crispy good right course might want to say this is what I want to do that, enough you need to have. This is me this is what I think is funny. Fortunately, a lot of people think it's funny. It's going well,

but really, ultimately is you need to wear airplanes and all your clothes right? Why? Well because the thing that then, because we want to pitch you for its Chris right, he's the kind nerd guy with the five day beard he its grass, the oven, Quest directed. I certainly alarm at the grass roots number of our lives. Studio on water live luckily, five hundred, but that's what I am not complaining I was. I was doing, pilots or whatever, but I stand. It became a lot of that. Lot like. What can I? What what shiny objects and I dont on stage to some network guy right that will take me pay me some money wreck, whatever freshness, had onstage opponent up for an episode and just and I had to take back the Corbett d- do the difference between You know that starting a comedy now restoring comedy, then you know now: it's like young complex almost have

be fuckin marketers, it know. Did you feel any sense of that back then, like pre, internets, comedy comics thought. Vic Dunlop was wonderful comedian who passed away couple weeks ago, and we were at his funeral bunch of a bunch of comic sooner big and VIC in Say nineteen. Eighty one at the end of the show, victory to think with plastic eyeball, oh sure, at output in his head. Oh yeah, they were kooky eyeballs that you would get in that Johnson Smith Catalogue of whatever look a major read. It looked like Iraq, calf and ate it out, and everything it was just a joke thing will fit, did up rather lengthy bit with these plastic eyeball. Hey, can you imagine I'm going to work like this one carbonated, whatever at the end of his show, VIC sold the eyeballs while dick eyeballs for five bucks at the end of

Joe, he would say about these eyeballs. If anyone wants to bed now, everyone thought: are you crazy marketing at immune selling junk at the end of your show? How is that penal? vehicles right now, every guy was hit the ball Volga, Nova, cattle, big mop of curly black hair because make me laugh a lot. Ok can I do why do I feel like it here? I just said logo. Gotta go again. I can't picture victim out of my head of wonderfully sweet guy and he worked of a very long time and he's Euro he's really I'm compared to me. Dick was really old, school really old school, but that wasn't nobody. I did. I wasn't thicket of marketing, I'm the last guy too. Dvds at the end of a show I was you know I mean I was using a tuba and doing many crowd pleasing things, but I really was still that actor kid from New York. I look I'm doing a performance, ok at the inner performance, I'm happy to meet people, but I'm not gonna be out there at some tea

like get your t here. Mom mistake meal. It reveals weird to it also, and I always feel weird about that suck as I feel like people just spent a shitload of money. I mean there's, some people are like ever come. You know that, We give your money and I was feeling you know people I mean I've. Just now got no care with eighty of selling teat like nervous tissue to chose you're. What I was just feel like: hey you don't have to with the fact is wanted. I gotta do want it and they like it happened they like real bad. I can, and I didn't even a ton of money to go, see the show- and I am you know I don't have a big cardboard cut out of myself with springs that are bound riot ACT for I don't do Bumpersticker every ever was used to a t shirt like what are you looking at bud on the beggar dude ill. Never ever happened right now. All you should charge money, because this guy or that guy to ten bucks to take a picture, and then you ll never happening. I take a picture with everybody. I meet everybody because it was nice of them actually to come out and tell me and say hi and if you want a dvd of the show,

there's a commie special that I did sure are being bought outside it for you whatever, but it's too you know it's totally freedom meet me and say: hi there you know. Well almost at the end. I know I'm only we have then another word an antiquated facility right now that that, but that we have to burn everything on to see they got back this and it won't only runs eighty minutes and word. Seventy five. Twenty two I didn't put in more now we're good, but I also, I also want to say that I is still just throughout my Dale out of a time I still gonna go to myself. Sometimes stop asking the question. It's never never leaves my head keeping an eye on that and I'm not even allowed to anything tub Wilson related, I'm just walking driving it. Just it just sticks of that is an amazing here. We are, but when flying

the plane or among the street, and it has a lot of friendly people that I like to meet. They shake my hair but never asked my name and they start asking questions that are always the same. What's Michael J Fox, like he's nice, Christopher Lloyd, like kind the quiet, what's Crispin Glauber like unusual I ask that question. I went to the bar mitzvah of my nephew Josh. Now, I'm not jewish, but I like to not put on my Yama GO started to pray when the rabbi Lean overran. I heard him say was that real manure? No, it was a piece of garbage. Those hover boards really fly. It's a movie star bats. Get me the question and others more, but now that we're we're gonna go to really do this double its catchy. In greater love, thousands

fantastic, and it was so it's so nice to see and every time I even I don't know that was really it's always really. Nice, like I'd like Tom, we should hang out. We ve got a lunch afterwards, let's do ok. Thank you very much. Tom the USA. Is your website I'm doing my own low low low budget podcast. Could I precisely the hop fun I'm calling it was, then that has sensibilities, big upon doing that, and I wrote a book. That's That's that's apparently unpublished, but gonna. Let us call them ass man, that's that's criminals, who are your biogas up now, and people can get it on the Itunes, absolutely fantastic. I'm the item on the Itunes on the idea that down the internet tones forgetting about going to get that any internet tones there. Thank you so much for we are often enjoy robbery. So everyone now leaving noticed com.