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not to state the movie. Although I hear Lincoln NE is very cool place to go ahead nap in there yeah this one place, I haven't actually performs in Nebraska yeah there's a lot of places we haven't performed, I'm sure they'll say it in the comment. Section: but yeah there's a lot of late you haven't performed. I have a lot of. I know, I'm sorry, I thought you said we was first arrive at the royal. We. Okay, I refer to myself and the third person. I don't know that is the royal. We is both of us. No, I mean me, but what floral made with, but with real royalty, I'm like a walking big love. Okay, I see yeah a a but will Forte and I haven't seen a breast. Yet I feel bad that I haven't seen. It yet looks really good songs, underpaying yeah, you know I do know where he is that he just hot off his descendants wins. I don't know if it's hot That was a couple years ago, yeah, but like it's his next movie. Okay, It would be like to put stuff out every day. They do know know know they could just go away forbidden work on a thing and then come back. I don't know what you're saying

Meanwhile, I shall remember the hotel. Remember you guys Christmas there's a werewolf. Let me right behind you is, will Forte or fifty five still alive now entering Nerdist dot com. Yeah I did go to UCLA. I was there in eighty. Nine was my first year and I was there until ninety three

a man. I got there in eighty eight and stayed till ninety three. I would have stayed another year, but then I started working at MTV and I left that is so funny. Oh, my God were you doing like all the acting school drama schools? No, I was a philosophy major. I went into you silly as a math major and then I I ended up in the philosophy department, but I've I was doing I was in this. There was that there was a group that was a stand up, comedy club like metaphysical club like a school club, and so I was in that group from the whole time I was there so we would do dorm, shows and stuff. That is so. That's that I I was a history major, so I was uh I didn't start it didn't start doing comedy until I was uh worked here brokerage. For like two years after school yeah. That's what my dad did. So I just No yeah were you I'd heard you were fraternity, I was

I was a frat guy, yeah Lambda CHI, Alpha that that was the sort of that was Lambda CHI. If my memory serves in my head, the way that everything has a cinematic Well, I always thought the Lambda CHI guys were like the alpha betas from revenge of the nerds like weren't. They that cool girl, As always, we thank you of review. I would a okay. I think you're saying the did that they were not a nerd. They were like the cool kids. I thought the tool I thought the Lambda CHI guys were, like girls always hung out those parties and girls be like them because they, a party to sounds like you're really putting down. This are the fraternity, Thank you know I mean guilty is charged came, you know, I

it is sometimes you feel a little embarrassed to admit that you were in a fraternity, but I had a wonderful time. It was a, but you know I, but I'm still really good friends with a lot of the guys in yes, sir. Certainly there were some stereotypical fraternity guys in in there, but there is some book. Stereo typical fraternity, guys not infer turn these to the show. Thank you know that you, you know it's it's just like your family. You know you you. There are some weirdos. But his family also. So I remember where the how the you're at that house was like was it? Is it? Was it wasn't Strathmore What was that street was right. What Strathmore was alright off daily? Like like a couple of housing, I remember yeah just from walking to campus and always seeing all these people having an amazing time. Hanging out the house and I barely left the house I would like I would do. Each morning and sit out on the porch and eat these some kind of cereal. I just remember this. This bowl, this big bowl that I had and I ate back

then, a lady based around not really, I would say because usually like a a, not based on that basis or okay, yeah, and let me put it to put my portion sizes were so much more than than I've. I gained forty five pounds should just be a freshman forty five yeah and I I I first of all could not be trusted at the the dorm, the cafeteria, because it's just like all you can eat food. I I could not say no and I didn't know anything my mom best mom in the world. She did not teach us nutritional guidelines and stuff. So I didn't know just I would have starch after star chapter starts and that was it like, like lunch, would be tons of mashed potatoes. A bunch of macaroni and cheese. Remember not seeing any protein sundry desserts go get drunk that night, then to get a full burger. King

or Tommy has made the place we owe it was probably still there when you went there, the the mexican Food place Baja fresh. You were right next freshman like Baja it was just say that you know we're right next to Tommy's, there's the other little Stan there. It was a mexican place. Oh ok, so good that became a sandwich. Shop. Tommy's was the place that made chili burgers and it was, I remember it. I'm sure they've cleaned it up, but I remember it being the dirtiest shack like it was. It was bad, really, not a homeless shelter. I have no recollection of really ever being their ordering. It would just be like I'd be drunk by that point and everything everything seem to clean at that point. There is a member waking up the next morning being like. Why does it feel like there that someone has spackle by Colin shot and then looking and seeing the empty time

box in the rapper wrapper like oh that's right, like two hundred and thirty, I was hammered and had chili fries and a chili, so good, so good, so burger did you ever have the breakfast burrito it was at headlines. The big big Tommy's, big Tommy, said that I I don't even know if it's connected to Tom is the right by where Dd Reese. Was. This is going to be a bummer of a podcast for people who did not go to UCLA and from eighty nine today yeah. Not only is it GEO specific, it's like spacetime, specific yeah yeah. D Reese, I think, is still there yeah right next to it. If you're looking, the brunt of Dd Reese right to the to the left of it was this was Tommy's and it was just the basically the same thing, just a bigger version of the shack. Can they had this breakfast burrito there was dead, then, wants to

he's turned into this chinese restaurant, the so popular that they kept the they would serve still. That fact, all up in that fantastic, I remember- I was so broke in college- that I would I could scrape together like three dollars and twenty four sense, to get this there's is a place called headlines which was on Gaillot, Yak, Burger, joint burger joint and they the this like burger and fries, and a drink for like I'm. Splurging like that was my splurge and then I started using a fake id further down. Tord will share this place called low spot. Remember that zero yeah sure sure there were there were That's what I really love the other stairs plea, operators plus yeah, which was clearly a money laundering, operation yeah, but we did used to go to speaking of of that. Wasn't what what's the place that was up in the in the building like ten stories up fifteen stories up low real? That was that it was like it was in a

yeah, what it was that was clearly mob, run whatever it was in that bank building and it wasn't, it was like a of the city like a round bar restaurant bar and it was a super super lounge, gee yeah and it did not look like college students in like tube socks and Birkenstock should be up there yeah, but they didn't really check id's yeah yeah that place two. Oh my god. I am so it's not surprising that we never met because you silly so large yeah, but I remember you know when you first got an all some like humanities, LA really. I think I knew a back, because I was a big fan of yours when you started doing your choate and MTV really yeah yeah yeah, that's funny that we never met I don't think I really met you until like a year ago, a year and a half ago uh and used it, I guess if I just walked by,

If you just sat out on the Lambda CHI portion, just eight not base serial. There is it. I said we do. We have. We walked past each other more than ten times. Probably in our do you breed probably like fifty but I'm sure used to, but I'm sure that you were sitting out there and just watching girls walk to class it. You know eight nine, ten of ice and guys sure sure you know I'm yeah I've. I've did don't it with with node sexual fascination of the of the guy part of it, but but like you know, it's good to it's just you know it's a a study in people. It is yeah. Did you check out there, but sure it's fine you're studying people yeah. Someday, maybe I'll what You were going go to brokerage yeah. It's very useful. So what was accused identified. Robot is blank in the brokered for, what's that for brokerage, were you studying for the you know just

in terms of the character study yeah, just you know, just just like just just demands gate you know is helpful to know. Like you know, you you put together. They are walking pace with with their expression and just everything just come on. Good. Laugh me on this healthy, healthy thing. Oh my Obviously it didn't it. That is reminding me of this horrible thing that a couple of guys that that were buddies of mine used to do all right out on that street. They did this thing called dollar where they would take. Piece of take a dollar bill is just a dollar bill and they would use their own feces. Wipe it on one side of the dollar bill. No video tape, people as they walked by to to pick up this dollar bill and then their reaction once they realize that there was theses feces on the dollar bill. I want to remind everyone. This was pre internet. This, yes, just

show in it. It would appear that this was not my this was. I knew these people who did it was. Where did I hardly know connection roll video? Did you see it did you? Did you see it are you going to put dollar? I never saw it and but something then fine. There was a person who cap to the dollar it was like wow did people realize right away? No, that was the that was. The interesting thing was would be to to see the the let the you know, the the the the Sometimes it's instant the discovery, and sometimes it takes a while in the you know, lifting it up to see what what that it was just. It is a horrible thing that these guys did you made to be ashamed of themselves, some of some of my to grab it quickly before anyone else on then stopped in their pocket there by ruining their pants and everything on their pocket in in. At that point, do you

Oh, my god that just reminded me of another who related I apologize. No, I'm listening because I I went to I went to the Long Beach Grand Prix This is kind of back in that era, and I was sitting at this table and it was it gave it. We were at this park just a bit up the didn't seem like it wasn't a dive bar. It wasn't a super fancy bar, but it regular bars. You would never expect something like this would happen. So I'm sitting at this table- and I had this one shirt- I used to wear all the time because I just don't a lot of clothes and I've got this one shirt that I really liked this over shirts so t shirt and then this this nice to me, fancy fancy green shirt and I just started smelling poo around me and I just thought did I step in something I did.

I did, I wasn't quite sure, and- and then I realized that listen up my arm, and there was somebody had had put. There was just who, on both both of the armrests of the chair, that somebody had somehow done that, and it was just all over the place, and I remember going into the bathroom and being very upset. This year. Since your favorite shirt trying to clean the shirt off- and I def- I kept the shirt like now. I would just throw this thing away in a second you could like. There is, even if it was like a fancy text. So that the president gave me I we would have gone away. I got a throw away. I think that was karma for enjoying dollar like in that Is the universe going a high, it's not so funny when she hits on your favorite. Green over shirt Originally when you said that I was going to say I didn't enjoy to dollar, but I kind of did I mean it? Was it was it's it's interesting. It's like you know it's generated guy.

But you learn a lot from PU dollar now to see how much impact, how much cultural impact this podcast has. I'm curious to see if this will be a craze that now sweeps Youtube I don't pick up any money ever when I see it that I really don't anymore, maybe change if it's a quarter and quarter an I'm, a If you see paper, money on the ground be suspicious, be very suspicious. Somethings up you're going to get darted like someone's, going to hit you with a tranq, dart or others shift on it or something or you're, going to fall into a bear trap it just it makes you realize, like so these this paper money that you carry around in your pocket. It's been through some stuff. These things have seen some they've seen some some things in their time and I'm always feel like a lot of times. You know, like you get one slash. Four, that's just battle scarred it's just it's just

dark black and their shit all over it, and it probably is literally ship Pooh Corner in Winter Cooper. Listen I wanted to. I wanted to make the game a little more relatable, so I took it into coins. I took it into coinage. Well, they play They play poo tuning up in Canada, where they should two dollars. Coin is totally different because they have a Coinbase currency, but they have to do it up. There

yeah. No one pick up a fifty off the ground. That's just too it's just it's too easy. So weird, that's so fucking weird, but I totally get why I totally get myself. What do you mean? Where did you? Where did you grow up well, primarily in Memphis TN, and then I moved in high school. I started high school in Memphis and then went through my junior in Denver and graduated in LOS Angeles. I was in LA. Did you open LA outside San Francisco Lafayette? nice, nice, nice, nice nor nor the California, the what made you decide to get his la I. It was the best of the schools that that I got into I've I've. To be honest, I would not excited to go to UCLA. I wanted to go to Berkeley. My dad went to Dartmouth I It was my hero, so I just wanted to do whatever he did. He went to Stanford Business School and then it but Dartmouth,

grad, and so I wanted to go to either Stanford or Dartmouth, and I'd really good grade I thought I had a shot but didn't get into either of those didn't get into Berkeley. CLA. I I do I'm so yeah I went there now I loved it. It was the best experience of my life, but for some reason going into it. Just wasn't that excited about it and also, as a California resident, it cost nothing Oh, my god, it was like four hundred dollars a quarter right. Four hundred, the corner to go there, and if you were out of state, it was like ten times that it was some crazy money, but if you were how do you know what it is? I have no idea, but it's it's thousands of dollars, yeah, it's not it! The those days are gone. I'm still young, I'm sure it's a comparatively cheap, but it's still expensive yeah. It's a lot of money yeah, but I really like to do I really it was kind of a cool it was. It was a cool place I've only spent one yeah one day and even less than a day in Memphis. I wanted this big road trip with uh.

One thousand nine hundred and ninety six and we went to Graceland, so that was that was it. We just drove through, went to Graceland then took off, but I really wish that we had stayed Well days or even just one night to go down to what is it Beale Street Street yeah? We wonder what was that? that have been a a cool thing to do. Yeah yeah I mean it is, if you you know, if, if you're only in town for one day, I would say you know you want to hit st you want to hit? You know grace, and I was always underwhelmed by- I guess the cool I love it. I was okay with that. I was okay. I I guess if you're just like, oh yelp is lived here, you know like that that part of it you know, but in general it was just it's the hurdle you they heard you around like cattle, and you got to get on that bus and go up there and and you can you can barely move, because you have to our moves really slowly in your scrunched into people and you're like well, three tv's in the media room and then and then his suppose, a grave which I don't

is very they're, not and then, and then that was really you think where, where do you think it is? I don't know if his body is there. I don't know, I don't know, I'm not sure and and and also Graceland's, in instance, art of into, hey Kelly part of town like it's, not in the okay as part time bill streets, bill streets, nice, but then I would also like, if you're in the south, this might sound weird. Go to like a civil war. Cemetery like go to really old cemetery yeah, because it just just seeing that, like you know, seen head stones that and of course, people overseas laughed a sort of like some of them go back to the eighteen, but it but it is. It is an interesting. You know, like you, just get a nice piece a heritage by going to like a really good job war cemetery. They don't want to sorry no, that's it no gone and the barbecue. And then that was it. Yes, I just went to Monticello when I know that is different than a than a civil war cemetery, but do just to be at Thomas Jefferson's home was really cool and to see all the info

have you ever been there yeah. When I was a kid my parents took me there, yeah have you been recently tool, he did all these, it wouldn't be cut. I have the worst memory and I was just there like three weeks like there. He had this as you walk in the door. There is a clock that was also. There was a component to it where it would tell you what day it was too, and it was these weird ball. Balls on strings that would, as the clock is the the week went by the the ball- would lower into the next little slot, but you know it had like Monday Tuesday. Well, that's really cool I guess people who are listening can't see my hands. It ended sending down a waltzed ascending vertically. And then now in this machine he had so that is so. It was like a like a

xerox where he would write something, and then there was this other pen that was it that was attached to it. That would be writing also at the same time, so he could write two letters at once. He could have a duplice it well. That was that was that the mimeograph, or am I thinking of a different machine, it's uh graph yeah. No, no, it's yeah, I think it. I forget the name of it, but it's the Thomas. Jefferson, graph, yeah that wasn't it and just think about all the history there, and I guess James Madison James Monroe used to come out. Hang around and General Lafayette, not some crazy giver to seventy register to get tripped up by the fact that they were just dudes and like yeah. He took a shit over there and then Jeff sat in the corner of the room one day and got bored like just think about all the Monday's amazing It is like he was just a guy and he

he had mundane activities they would they played. They played poo toddler. This is going to go over the dollar. He can't help it on YO son of a goat it is true, I do. I do think about that stuff there's more attached that I'm going to keep it inside. How do you go from your two years at a brokerage firm by the way, since your dad was your hero? Was? Was that hard to go? I don't want to do this anymore, No, it was it impacted, but it made me realize how much that wasn't for me, just like okay, give a shot it a shot. It just did did not feel right at all. I kept waking up every morning. You feel like there's this tightness and it's almost like you're lugging around this cement block inside your your body- and

and then, as soon as I went to the groundlings, that was where I started doing comedy it. Just everything was lifted and my Add in mom could not have been more supportive. They just they. You know I've I was really nervous to tell them and they were they were really happy that I was going to give it a try. It's really interesting that whenever you meet someone who does not grow up in comedy, and then they, sir, I guess maybe it's a little different because the internet now but, and they always sort of feel little weird and out of place and they find like a comedy tribe and they're like oh fuck, I'm a part of a thing and there's other people who do this. Who think this way? It's such an interesting. I found that when I discovered the comedy club at UCLA like all my god? Other people have these dumb thoughts and I'm not I'm not alone, which what would that be? Do what was the calm? club at UCLA. We used to meet up in Ackerman Union on Wednesday nights. Like would you

Everybody would be like an open MIKE night there. No, it was just a well. There was that there was a show with the cooperage on Tuesday nights. I think there was a comedy show okay, but we were just a group of guys and we would meet, and then we would, you know, go around the table and help each other, for shout material that we had written from the previous week and then once or twice a quarter. We would go perform it like Dykstra, Holler, Sproul or something and do dorm shows and then once a year venture out and get a like. I don't know what I could do a book a room at the there was an improv in Santa Monica. At the time I like how it like, like an Improv Comedy club, okay, and so we do. You know, rent out the upper. There was a loft part that was a small little performance space, and so we want to you, We go do that and that was a big deal so yeah I was just a group without a lot of people go in it to the to the dorms. Would would a lot of people show up at the shows yeah because it a lot of people were just studying and you know: we'd put flyers up in the door. We're going to show this Friday, so they all they literally had to do, was come down the elevator and just sit in their rec room and so

they would yeah there. People would come to the shows. Are there people that you met back then, who are still doing it? Yeah this guy Steve Callahan? Is the co ep of family guy? Oh cool? He was my orientation counselor and he was the president of the comedy club when I joined and then another guy named Pat Megan, also writes on family guy and a couple other people in the class before Maine was Shane Black, oh really like he was the club of Group before me, because he's a few years, older yeah was like Shane, Black and Ed Solomon and Chris met Chris Matheson, who wrote Bill and TED's and then Shane and now she's all insist, guides comics, who we will call on you know and so yeah and and then they would do the storm shows and would pay to have headliners professional headliners committed headline the show so was we would all open for them, and so we would get this notebook passed down as the press. I was present a comical after

even it would have all these names of people who had performed- and it was like David Spade just all these people before they made it big, but they were like no like slightly known comics yeah. It was a really interesting. It's really cool bit of comedy history. Back in so yeah, but you didn't do any comedy in college right. Nothing! Nothing about uh, I I didn't really do anything. I took a draw my class in junior high school. That was just I mean it was just basically doing those improv game yeah like like really loose Improv Games, the the machine game. I hope, if you know, if you do a play, that one where it's just one person doing something oh really, yeah somebody comes in, joins in and soon there's just a bunch of people making these weird mens, and but it's just teaching you to work to There is all very basic stuff, and then I took my sophomore year of high

I took a drama class in and never did any plays or anything like that. But I was you know. I was always kind of weird and all My friends were weird. We would do do comedy. Not really doing comedy. Did you have a hard time fitting in with the well? I guess it sounds like you didn't, because I I was the kind of weird that I would never have fit into that construct of like that for Eternity house. I never would have. I would go to geeky and I've. I used to scare people away because I was such a comedy nerd that I I just they'd be like he's performing. I like it. I I I do like I would You should have come to Lambda CHI, we would have accepted, you never would have. No, I didn't know it was. It was uh, no everyone's. It was really nice. It was you know I, but I definitely was probably the

the considered the weird guy of the fraternity, but but uh. No, it was. It was ok with that. It was unacceptable. Weirdness, yeah, ok, yeah, you know I uh v. I mean everybody- I don't know everyone was kind of weird in their own way uhm, but it sounds like you were pretty comfortable with yourself. It's like if you had a good really it's not like you're, pretty comfortable with yourself. So in terms of just life, yeah yeah! I guess so that's going to have a great. I had a great my family was so great and I loved high school. Didn't want to leave it. I didn't want to go to college, and then I went to college and I didn't want to leave that like every every part of it was great, it was kinda they and that's what made me feel better about leaving SNL eventually was. I just realized. This is like is like high school and college where you

I don't want to leave, but you know you have to, and it's just you got to move on to the next step and whatever is out there next time here I won't want to leave at some point and then you know it's it's a good thing to try new things you just gotta, you just got do Were you there when you're there for six years, eight years, eight years, yeah? Well, how dare you know so sorry? So so at that point you to me it seems like a pretty troll choice to go like I've been here. Eight you might want to be here for six years more year, like you, don't you know yeah it you have to you have to move on. You have to shed that stuff to move on. I I think it makes. I think it might come I understand why you would want to leave after yeah I mean I guess some people questioned, because the timing of it was weird because I had just done Macgruber and, and it came out,

and just bombed like nobody thought and then, like a month later, I said like yeah. I guess maybe I'm going to go back, but you know most people would go like. Oh, if you're, you know, if you're clearly, don't have any kind of prospects of a movie. So it's not like it's as though you're buying only that job well everyday wins. World they're, like oh yeah, well, he's going to go off and yeah yeah. I know this was the. It was a questionable decision, but by you know it it just you would have add very little to do with with all that stuff is more just you know, family being out here and wanted to get out here, and the good thing is it before before I SNL, I was a writer for a long time, and so I knew it's a crapshoot You leave SNL, so you just never know what's out there for you, so if everything dries up acting wise I'll, just go back to writing, which I love doing. I love.

So. Would you developed a really strong voice on the show? And I always I always looked. I always look forward like this is the will Forte thing like this is a this is like this is going to be some surreal kind of a thing that is that doesn't mess that doesn't really rely on any kind of pop culture reference. It's just it's own some kind of thing that that's going to be really weird that I'm going to love. Thank you very much. I I always. I always look forward to that stuff because it was- and I and I feel like if you, if you like, they gave you a lot of room to experiment with that. Can I mean like? Did you have any trouble pitching some of the weirder stuff, for that is certain point to the disco. What does that will do? What will does I mean the tricky thing is when you start out there, you'll you'll put up things that will go well. The table Lauren, is very protective of v e L. He wants to to get you out there in the right way, and so do you. You do get a lot of what you know. We're not gonna. Do that this week, the

People need to get to know you a little bit better before before they are subject and it you know just wait just wait because at some point like we as they get to know a little better, that they'll be ready for that, and and it's been it's hard to wait, but I I think I think it's you know you would tell yourself no if they see that they build the like it, but but I think lawrence of very smart guy and knows what he's doing and- and you know It was true like the years as I was there for the the longer I was there, the more you would get the benefit of the doubt and then he would. You know, take a chance on some weird stuff that you put up at the table but There are definitely some ones that I put up early on that didn't get on that. I wish it got non, but but in hindsight they probably wouldn't have

I don't know who I who knows- you'll, never know but it, but it is definitely he's he's really good about protecting you and and he's great ab. I I really have nothing but the most the highest respect for for him. What was there any? It was there anything that you never got to do that you always wanted to do or just want to try what what in the hell? Yes, there's one that said this thing called Jen German Franklin, which was, I put it up so many times, Like a dead s. Now you do you at the table. Read you can put up something once and if it goes well, you can maybe put it up a second time, but I must have put up Gentran Franklin six times and and they just would never they just never. Let me do it and it it yeah. I have a great relationship with the staff, my, we're really good buddies, but we will still have this really fun argument about Jen German Franklin

we have with there's actually a plan now when he starts his late night show. I if I come on as a guest, we're going to Gus. The argument about Jenjamin Franklin and he's going to. Let me perform it the first time in a bit, so it's I'm, really excited and also really nervous because I've I have given him so much. About, not letting us tried, I mean it's, you know it's Lawrence Lawrence call about that stuff most of the time, but but if it just sucks, it's going to be a painful pill to swallow. The point where, like I have an idea, it's not, different, is that no? No ok, okay, go ahead, so ginger Franklin is in a submarine ten. Delete everything, delete everything you want to say what the premises or do you want to save it for set show it's just it's essentially just a this guy comes to a he's being set up on a blind date by these two people who met this woman, who they

that shares the same interests as as him they're really into like. You know, colonial period stuff, and she shows up and she's just the spitting image. Ben Franklin, but but very sexual, and things get so it's. I I love it. I can't believe they didn't. Let you try that one just one one to go to the dress rehearsal one since the one time in the last half hour of the show yeah like one time Dave, I brought you in in their defense. They have. Let me try a ton of stuff. They did not work at all. So, like you know, I did it, but this for some reason this was the one that that really I'll I'll always remember there, but did I don't want to you know make sure I say they they were so good to me, real Lauren was so good to me. I I've. You know. I've had

great time of the shows, are to leave just not ginger in Franklin, good, yeah, right yeah that would have. There was one thing they kept my experience there from being perfect, and that was it. Do you still after all these years? Have you perfected the sketch, like? Do you still hi I'm Joe gentleman Jacqueline yeah. He was perfect very beginning. It's we only have, because you have to actually we did. It did get a little bit better. Each time you find little teeny things, because you can't, if you put it up a second time at the table, read you have Do some new moves, so we would we would we would insert some stuff, but it's ready to go, are you gentlemen Franklin, or do you play that we would play it in different ways? 'cause? We did it a couple of times at first, where I gentlemen Franklin and then we realized. Oh, what we need to do is get the host to be,

Franklin. So then they have this big meaty part 'cause, the other parts really fun too 'cause. It's a guy who's, who's time to end the woman he shouldn't be into at all. It's just like the colonial aspect of it is is not a big enough care at it is. If it is it's it's yeah there are two fun parts the other parts are fun. It's a perfectly written sketch. Man is perfect. So who do you see? Who do you see embodying the perfect? Benjamin Franklin? Is it someone like Paul Giamatti or is it someone or is it an actual sexy woman Well, I would like to go back and be. I would like to be in German Franklin. Ok, so you are German Franklin Dad I mean I don't know that I would make the perfect gentleman Franklin, but but that's that's that now in the incarnation. I have to do it just to get this out of my you know.

In in the in the one that if we eventually do, one says show if he, if he goes through with this, which you- sounds really excited about it. I mean it's been so much fun. We talk about it all the time, but I think I would have to do that. I can't remember I think Brian Williams might have been the other purse. Once in in who else. I think I think we might have tried to get Christopher Walken to be the the guy. Can I have this certain point, he's asked me to dance, and can I put something which is yes is is the way it is beating the joke to death, but I can't I can't help it I just envision. I think you should shoot a short set up for this video such a, but you should the strut set up, which is essentially

the plot of Mr Holland's Opus, where you've been trying to get this one sketch done and life keeps getting in the way, and so finally, at the end they presented to you, like everyone just presented to you like this, was the culmination your life's work that you never got to finish and they make it a huge, huge, huge also at the end there should also be a little and and Phil where I'm an old man. On my headlight like this, by my family and I get to see it finally played in then. I then I menu expire mile in my face and then but then they They shut your eyes and then they put the Benjamin Franklin. They bury you as judgment Franklin. Would be very orthodox. They would bear you immediately so you're not going to get more wait a second or it's just me as an old man, and then a doctor comes in and

scalpel down my face and removes a layer of skin and I've been German Franklin, tired time yeah, that is the will Forte touched the sketch needed. That is exactly what the schedule dropping is what you would I'm telling you. This is a good idea, and it should end that way and if it, if it, if it takes thirty, units of Seth show you have got to make sure that we're gonna do sit on the couch. All right did did, did it yeah Amy Poehler coming on, but but what do you? What do you just? It would be the same after the second show, Let's just look at this german Franklin: let's get this man is Seth Meyers. I show off to a two web Abang. Let people know that this is can expect. Every episode has just a thirty minute long schedule. I'm excited to see what he does with that with that show, because he, I think he's going to be great. He is Jean he's a brilliant guy.

Yeah really really insanely smart guy, very, very, very smart! So fast, like a you know, it's it's. I think it's clear from people who see update how fast is, but, but you know to see him, in the writers room and to go in with a sketch that might not be working, and he just very quickly has the fix on it and he's he's so small and fast, he's also a really pleasant and fun guy, and I think he's just going to be really good at talking to people also in interviews so yeah. I think it's going to be a great show. When when you did leave SNL was there any sort of a andary like. Well, I'm just going to move out and we'll just see there was no. There was,

no plan at all I mean the the the the the business part of the plan was just like. Hey look. You you it's time to try new stuff. You know, like I understood the like my agent manager. They were saying you know it's eight years long time. You know put it lets. You know it it's it's time to try new stuff in in that made sense it like if it but but really, that was not as big a part of leaving as the other more personal stuff. You know it just turned forty still

you know unmarried and no kids. I always thought that was going to come really really early. I'm still now, I'm forty three at three years later said the same scenario, so it turning forty freaking out. What that did it? Turning forty freak you out no not yeah I mean I have the a I mean there were parts of me that were you know, and this weird ticking clock that that you don't the the people go. Oh men shouldn't have that, but yeah I mean there are part of my start having kids and to me that's what life is all about the family stuff. Not you know I I love getting to do this acting and writing and all that is wonderful, but that's you know that's just a blessing. An gravy on top of family stuff, family stuff is where it's at so like, so it was weird to you know. I would love that aspect of life to get going, but I just haven't

So my profile- it's just- will forte out, but brokerage firm research but indeed women. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, but John plus yeah, but not a necessity yeah, you know it's. If you want to yes, it was if you could adopt, though you could find a nice gentle up someone. It is true. That is true. You could totally do that. That's true is this point. I'm just gonna open up, but whatever handy the prospect, they're gonna, what do you? What do you? What do you think it is? The sort of kept you if you, if you don't like what you're after, but what do you think it is it sort of kept you from like? I know, I'm just gonna settle down and I don't know what it is. You know I I think of a part of it is. I am I I got some OCD tendencies, I'm not like a full blown OCD, but but I I got enough of it and- and I I think, but

the older I get the more. I realize how much that stuff has affected it affected me and I think that it, I think that it plays with, like. I think it's been affected, some some, my previous relationships, You know my parents split up to I'm sure that's rolling around in there somewhere. I don't know what it is. What you know it's it's constantly learning I feel like I'm, I'm evolving as a person, I'm getting you know if the VA. You know I, if feel closer to being ready to to do that kind of stuff than than ever. I guess it's very funny to why. I feel that is that our parents generation,

by the time you're forty. It was like what the are you doing. You know it's. It was on heard of unheard of yeah. You know like I was already. I was already ten by the time my dad was forty yeah and fifteen. By the time my mom was forty and I read, member that very very clearly. So it seems very you know, like I do spiel that strange, like oh yeah, they were and even they were a lien on my dad at thirty was still a little behind the curve yeah you know. So this is a strange right now, most of my friends are, who are my age are not married yet crazy or do you feel? Are you married? No, no. I have a girlfriend. I've been with the same girl for two year, two ish years, but it's time I found all my up. I think a lot of my friends. Well, I guess it's tough to say I do have a lot of friends who have kids

are on their second kids and it, but then I also have you too. I do have a lot of it, but, like my best best buddies, down here in LOS Angeles, are still single, but well I mean some. I feel like some of the murder are getting getting close now yeah. But but it's you know forty three were all forty three. Yes from time. I just turned forty two yeah yeah, so it It's it is uh. Forty didn't freak me out that much, but thirty eight freaked me out, because thirty eight was like now enter them in. It didn't happen there because then you got it out of the way so that by the time you turn forty, you would like yeah that's true yeah it a lot of cases yeah. It's still eats away at me a little bit because I I just I sort of feel like you know time is this kind of like a tight sweater that just keeps getting tired. Like. I just need a little more room in a I know, my god it is, it is just.

Yeah yeah. It is really interesting to think about, like I just how it how fast it goes by I Diane checking in on. Oh when, oh my parents were this. Age when they did this in all that all that stuff and then you, you know my parents are both seventy now and they are in very good shape for being seventy, but that you know seventy years starting to get kind of old, but it doesn't those old they it did like twenty years ago. Seventy seem like you know. Well, why are you still even walk, around you should be standing for the for family you should be near some kind of know, crematorium or something because your case yeah just to make it easier for them, but

yeah now it's now I look at my own parents, who are my dad's keys every day of his life, my my grandpa who's. Ninety five! He I think till he was like eighty nine, so I I you know. I hope that I take after them but a bit, but it is interesting to to go God. I I have to take after them. If I want to enjoy a you know any kids in my life because I'm I'm really pushing the limit better live a long time. I won grand kids if they're on my path, yeah I'll, have to live to be like a hundred and or you just encourage your own children to not use protection just be like the anti around like just. It feels a lot better if put that thing on just do it that way, no he's great once he gets out of jail, he's he's. These are soul. Mate come on. That's fine yeah! Well, it is it for that period is sort of the transition from or at least for me

the way of when you're, younger and you're sort of, like it'll, run way in the world like life's an infinitely expanding universe. And then you start you start getting to that and then the fortunately, oh, I I'll? Just do this thing later and you're like well, how much time later? Is there really like start asking those like it's the talk back from my brain right? Just do it later, but how much time you really do? oh shit yeah. I guess you're right, it is, I'm sure, did you just do these things now's the time now is the time I'm you are I'm going to go to Japan instead of spending Christmas with my family. You just made me realize they know what you look like every year, I'm going to go ahead and did Japan get some underwear in a vending machine and becoming have you been there? No, I did. I did Japan together. Go to Japan. Japanese trip will go, have a japanese Christmas, but that would be really fun.

Create some. Ladies over their mind, all going right. There happy that it's 'cause she she loves anime, so she'll think it's cool cheese, honey. I impregnated japanese- you know she dressed like a schoolgirl for some word anime front axle. Will then it's fine? You know like that's. What's supposed to happen, did you turn into tentacles? Yes, I did. I did I put on the tentacles. It says it is, I'm not freaking out about it, but I definitely feel it I just. I just feel it. You know yeah, I know it's there yeah and then we are talking. Death yeah yeah yeah. Well, I mean just the getting the this is getting older, low, yeah, just a young. They would stay at that. Doesn't freak me out as much as just like the older thing like when you get it when you get a guy in a room full of white hairs. No, like look these double people you're like and like twenty five years or maybe less you know like and I'm going to and I'm sure

I think I'm cool and hanging out with the kids, but they won't want me around because they don't get my references and I smell weird because I'm older and that's you exude, that's what happens weed. So let me ask you this, but back to your philosophy, major was do you? You probably think the way differently about death? because of know your knowledge of philosophy. I would think right. You must have a very evolved writing. Update involved may not be the right word, but but like we had it, what what do you? How does that make you feel moving towards it? I don't. I don't really have I don't know, if there's anything, philosophical that I feel like this comforts me- I just sort of feel like well, that's it you know like and and for some reason, I'm just okay with that yeah like just going yeah. That's probably it you know, I didn't know what it was like to not be alive before I put I don't really know what it's like. You know. It doesn't really bother me. And particularly religious. You know you no no

right and I don't really have anything against it. I just don't really. You know there is anything about it run like yeah. That really makes a lot of sense to me in like it, isn't anything that I really bond with them. I do I like to think that this is the universe. Is this big signs, the machine that we don't understand and there are probably moving parts that we don't? No because we just know a frat, but of tiny, infinitesimal fraction of what's going on, but yeah, that's about it. You know but I don't really for me. It's it's just the it really is just like the the old the old thing freaks me out. I want to die young, but I just don't wanna be old. You know, that's yeah! I have a. I that's a part of it that I don't really ever think about that. Do you are probably going to kickstart me into thinking about that. Now. If I ruin the rest of your life, no, no! No! No or maybe it's gonna be good for me to think about I'll. Tell you, I think it's. I think I think it's good yeah, but I think it's going to be. Okay is because

no matter what age are at. You always feel like. Oh I'm, so when I turned twenty five- and I was like a quarter of a century old, it's all downhill from here yeah, and then I was thirty five I was like well, twenty five was not really a. I mean you eat and, and my dad died when he was seven two and he was really happy burn. He was real. Happy and made me feel like. Oh it's not you know I mean I would I would meet people, you know I mean people went after. I turned thirty who are in their 20s and they'd. Be like would I turn thirty. It's all over man, and then you sort of realize, like I didn't even start to know who I was until I was thirty and forty hi. Yes, so much more comfortable than I was when I was thirty, so you know, I think if I were to snap my fingers and just be seventy right now it would suck But there's a lot in between here and there yeah that it's like I'm not just jumping into ice cold water. It's like you know you, you get all those experiences in between. So that's why I kind of feel like a pride, be okay

no. I agree I feel like I'm the I mean. I guess everybody should be the most evolved version of themselves at over age. They are like you're constantly moving towards it. I just wish it was in a younger body. Please science, please perfect the idea here that you hear about like how how sciences going the lifespan of people I mean soon of people just live forever. It's a you know forever. It with. Organ harvesting and- and you know it's it's, we do it soon. There will we we're gonna be part of one of the last generation's, probably if we might get really got all just miss it, I think we're going to just as soon as it, but in a weird it I feel like it's going to be. If it's gonna be weird to live forever. Well, I mean I wish we had some vampires who could be talking.

Do vampires is all all we would need is like one or two vampires and not freshly turned vampires, but, like dawn of time, vampires going to get very crowded it will I like the space- right now. So when you drive across America like what the we have tons of space yeah, you know just the corn into the like: let's just levitate, if we can make live forever. We can grow sky corn. You know I mean like that with well there's plenty of parking space for everyone. The country is clustered so much it's also crowd yet because there were live on the coast. You know like if you moved to the middle, the country, those God damned room. I was Lord God, just you going up from there on the five up to from LA to San Francisco yeah lot of Bay area there for people who can just move to. Gilroy yeah twenty plenty of room in Gilroy go heavy

There are like die at that level, which would be very good hard. Yes, that would keep it not good if your vampire yes yeah, but if you're just you're just a human living forever. Yes, all the garlic you could ever do you, how do you feel about it? Are you particularly religiously about stuff I was. I was raised Catholic. I I don't know what I am now I I. I guess my mom is a very. She was also catholic and is more just generally spiritual now and I don't know I I'm in that space where I die. Never going to poo poo anything because I just don't know who knows. What's who knows what's right? I so I I'm just kind

hanging around open to anything. Nothing is really caught me yet, but but in terms of how I view death, yet. It's I'm not excited about it, but I, but I do also realize I go to every single person who is ever lived, is has done it. It's like you just gotta. Do it Everyone is doing it, man yeah I'm going to do it would be a conformist yeah just going to conform to it, but it just makes you realize how it it's so at your hands. No yeah is so it you know so much of what I think we feel like. We, you know and honestly just sort of spinning it around to the OCD talk. So much of it is is just trying to go.

Ask for control in a world where we largely do not have control yeah, and I think you know, I think a lot of religion is probably very Oc D base of like I have to perform these rituals so that the monstrous don't come. Yeah so it you know. Basically, we all, I think, that's just a a byproduct of our brain, trying to parse out something which doesn't compute, which is that we don't really have control over anything. Yeah yeah. Is that how yours expresses itself Do you feel like yeah? I mean I, I think, there's a lot of truth to what you just said. I just have this

thought in my head of something that was going to my head, the other day, they've used, they had a lot in that last sentence. I'm sorry, though, please do want to share with the the I was because my place is I, but bought this place search eleven years ago in Santa Monica two weeks before getting the SNL job, and so I basically had to move to New York. When I had just bought this house and didn't really move any furniture in didn't just didn't. I had a bad. I had this and then I kept saying: ok, I'm going to wait 'cause. I want to do a couple things to the house, but I just never had time and so it's still kind of largely on after eleven

eleven years later. 'cause. Then then it became this thing like. Oh, I want to get the upstairs redone so I'll, just wait till after that, and then now. Finally, I'm starting to do that, but there are still just piles of things. I was I'm kind of reformed pack rat, so I'm trying to go through this stuff- and I just had this horrible thought the other day that oh I'm going to I'm going to like all these. I have to at least furnish my house before I die like this is it's been eleven years. I have stuff in there. It is it's it's been a, but but this front room that I have is just a little bit a place. Their furniture and then no rugs are there might be. I finally took a huge step and put a picture up on the wall

wait a year ago. That's so funny, because I just couldn't I didn't could decide like a where do I put, which I didn't want to commit to having a picture in a place that I might think was later was the wrong place for This is eerily. I think it's sort of funny. Well, it's not funny, but would say that the way that you deal with your home is effectively sort of a metaphor for how you deal with the of your life yeah you're saying my relationship like always have some right to commit to a picture afraid to do this across frayed. To finish it not don't not really sure it's really interesting, weird, because the the there it definitely absolutely we. What I've learned is is that that is the case, but then there's also the part of those CD that is hyper focus. When I get when I have job stuff, I could

just dig into it and go nuts and I've read, ignore everything else. I bet it did Intel everything's done like if I get started on a jigsaw puzzle it like even to them, that's not work, but I just need to complete that. I can't I can't stop until it's done so so I would think that that would go fi yeah. I have if I focus on this, this relationship stuff just work on it until it's done, but I guess it's not really like that. I'm also I'm also not crazy, I'm not crazy person. So I know that you can't really do that and there is no done really. There is no done, but I would I would. I would like in that, a little bit too why I've never watched the wire to your puzzle analogy not so much the relationship analogy where I go.

Well, I don't. If I start this thing, I know it's going to consume a very large portion of my life until I'm finished with it, and I'm not ready to do that. I'm not ready to do that. Yet how many seasons seven seven hundred am meeting right. So I don't know if seven, what how many thirteen it's gonna, be like seventy episodes, maybe almost eighty episodes how many episodes of the wire Katie somewhere between seventy and eighty four seasons. I thought it was seven. That's fine, five seasons As doable, there was some tonight do that to anything. What did you hear that I just feel like this voice saying I should start the

tonight is that the wire talking the wires becomes engine sixty seven sixty episodes, okay! Well, as of season six episodes. Okay, five still are still out sixty up. So this is that is a lie. Is a lie yeah when I did the when, in the breaking bad after show, I rewatch the entire series up to that point, and that was like forty nine episodes or something, and it I loved it, but it does like every free moment. Like ok, I'm going to watch this now I mean it really does take it. Second, one show that I did I started in probably is the fourth season was just starting. That was when I started watching it and just went nuts on it. It was such a great show. I didn't get to see. You were at the Hollywood forever cemetery right. I was going to come that night, but I hadn't I hadn't finished it yet so God you're a guy, I would be, I would be. I would Vince I feel like you- could have popped up on that show. Vince loves like really smart.

Funny. People on that show like there was so many comedians on that show playing. Well now you get, I mean I've, isn't he I don't know? super well, but I've met him twice or maybe three times Vince Gilligan yeah, A tremendously awesome! So great so warm, and did you know before that or no I didn't know him until until that show, and then we you know, we hung out a bit and, and just such a I mean like he's such a sweet guy, that you would never go this guy created one of the greatest television shows in television history, and it would have this super dark arc to it. Like he's such a sweet you know like with, like I do, with the brain, create some got there and be Aaron Paul. That's guys, yeah, yes, just wonderful! The absolute best because, like you know, they're Aaron Paul that guys won Emmys

He could have totally if he were a douche bag. People be like well, it sucks, but I get it and yet he's out there like in the crowds with the fans like raising money for charity, and he knows the people want to hear say magnets Bitchh, and so he does it and he takes the pictures and, like he's just you can tell that they are care about the community of the show like they care about as much as we care about yeah, which is amazing yeah. But now I haven't seen a brassy yet, but I will, I will see it and I've heard nothing but amazing things about it and your performance and I'll think is that that's gonna be super. I mean like to be able to show a difference. You know it. It has been the most exciting thing because you just I don't know how to express it very, very clearly, which is weird because I've been last two months doing nothing other than that. I think about this. So I should have a a more concise way to put this, but you just think you

no, where you, where your head, you know you did did did I I. I would have never expected that somebody would give me a chance to do this, I'm so appreciative telling their pain, because it's it's I was, I am it just not a lot of people would have give me a chance to do some like as you know, and it was it was just he's an amazing guy who will yeah I've just been very appreciative, so it's been so much fun every part of, it's just been exciting and- and terrifying it and and but, but but just wonderful he's a guy. That's pretty masterful at exposing sides of performers that you didn't the you didn't really. No before like he sees things and he seems to really see things in people and and cars out like

Did you receive your c predetermined that that the the zero I didn't see that? But but I, but I have heard that his is, is awesome. I mean you know, they're all fun and you know a couple of more like men but his it just you watch it and you just tears eight. So it's such a beautiful, it's Margo Martindale is a part of our deal. Yeah I, which I I haven't seen it, but I remember him all my god. It's short, so you could you, could you don't have to watch recipes? You can like ten minutes log but it it just yeah he's he does such an incredible job, it just flipping over a rock and then just showing you something really beautiful. This is a bad way to describe this, but I don't it it. So I'm I'm really excited to see your to see your movie for you to see. I should've brought brought a screener for you, fuck bro. Why are you sucking freaks heroes? get a bunch of rows have seen it,

you seem to be trying to outgrow believe in it's only been in the theatres here for five weeks. I have not been in a movie theater, and so I know I'm the same way. I do not watch movies. Hardly ever I went to a movie theater Sunday because it was Captain EO and I was at Disneyland the kind of people that had not seen Captain EO. I really I warned them that it doesn't hold up and they were still no floored by how much it does not hold up those other ones like what the fuck and I go. I know I told you this, but it's probably going to be every much longer, so you have to see it now. That is well. You're going to get rid of it. Probably I mean: how long can it be there? The theater was not full like it. Not a hard ride to get into ride, guide traction but yeah. I said that was the last. I I I I I I just I find that you know I just don't

It's like going to the theater, but I got to do this thing and I yeah that's like a parking and goes. I mean like I it's a dumb math, but I'm doing my head. Of course I could carve time to. See it. But no, I know exactly what you mean. I I never time, but then I realized I spend so much time. I waste so much time doing like the amount of time play spend on the internet. Doing I should be returning emails cuz. I know I feel I feel very guilty for not returning emails, so it would make me feel so much better if I just spent that time returning emails instead of just going down the the the the little internet internet rabbit holes, yeah yeah. Well, I think that it's it's a good lesson that you're forty three and you've done this movie, which is this whole a new chapter in your career and when you were twenty five you're, probably like forty three goddamnit, what what

parts are not going to be rocking on at forty three who's going to want me then fuck, forty three and then here you are. This is exactly proof that at sixty or or maybe even eighty then maybe gets a little dicey, but that life can still be surprising and fun and good and and and fulfilling. No, I'm absolutely agreed like I've. I've started SNL when I was relatively old three thousand and thirty two I hadn't I hadn't been acting, had just been writing so to get to do that, and that was my dream job. So so I just didn't. I didn't expect anything else. I mean this is something I would have hoped for, but just never. Is this would have been too crazy a thing to even put on a dream wish list? You know it it. It is so it so it was very exciting and it's it. You know I think about the same thing for for Bruce is so exciting because

he's such an amazing actor and to get to get a roll like this at the age of seventy and it's so amazing. He you know. I really hope people give him. May you know this? Guy should have been getting roles like this. For do you know, do all the time, so it's it's really exciting for him. That you know to be is to be getting recognized for what may in job you'll, see he's he's so good in this movie he's so good and he and I've always really really loved him. 'cause he's such an interesting actor he's always he's just very interesting and everything he's ever done it. I can't help it a day towards towards him. So it's a bit but he's he's so different in this than anything he's ever done, and and it's it's just

so happy that people are you going to him. You're gonna go you're, gonna end up going to the Oscars next year, and I mean it's there's this movie it. It just has like every element. You're like oh yeah. This is it that you know. First of all, it's a director that everyone loves. It does amazing work. The movie looks cool, it's a cool quirky story, you're in it no one's seen you do this kind of thing before really Bruce. Dern is a guy that, like oh yeah, like it's sort of a want They come back story. 'cause he's not like you, never really went away, but like a really to come back to a movie like this and this is the big, but I mean it, but yeah he's been acting in a bunch, but not a role like this like this is really like. This is a tour de force, where the academy is like. Yes, let us give this guy a thing, or this movie is that you're gonna be weird to you. You may have a very weird to just go be focusing at the Oscars, because my my movie, I I

you know. Who knows what happened? I know I know I know but, but it you know I I just am really rooting for Bruce because he's just oh good in this movie and he's become such a special part of my life, and I'm just it's been so exciting how how much, recognition he's been getting 'cause, it's so deserved. So know I hope it keeps going I'm not going to jinx any. No, no court idea. You know I would absolutely because I've said I've. You know I've seen there is. Lot of amazing acting performances this year, but but God he's he's so good in this movie and- and I just am- am tickled forum that people are are, are you know it taken note of it? Well, it's I I I'm I'm excited. Are you working anything else at the moment? Is there is anything at the moment? No, it's just an

I never realized how much you know when I did it Mcgriff birth. We we did like a five day stretch where we went to a different college town each night and then a weekend of of press at a press junket in an act. A talk show or two and this has just been so much traveling around to different. You know, months and months of doing regional visits in in the movie and talking to press. I just never knew this. Level of promotion existed. So it's been exhilarating. It's been fun to you know I just. I still can't believe I got to be in this movie it's exciting to go around and show it to people and but it, but it's also exhausting. So it's it's a, but you know absolutely that

It is bad. You know I'm more than happy to to. I I just told them you what ever you want me to do all do it, the I'm so thankful, but you let me be in this movie, so so are you happy just being an actor? Do you want to do you want to like your next and be like? I want to write this thing and be, and it's our I mean I'd love I'd, be the ideal would be to write something that you're in, but but actually the older. I get the more. I am not having that control freak stuff, so I feel and I'm learning to trust other people and it's it's so it's not as necessary from it before it was like a. I have in a situation where I get to troll everything I write, it acted and I get the editing decisions and you just yeah. I know it's not

as important to me. If, if I'd work with bill like Alexander Payne, how may not gonna trust every decision that guy makes he's like a couple of notes, live a couple of suggestions yeah, so what you know I buy, I would love to to the right in and did I think, I'd be really funded direct something, but, but I'm you know that's. I got piles in my house that I got to sort through and I got a you know. Furnished my house and I got so. There are a lot of things that I think should take priority over me worrying about this. Stuff this summer did did did, did do, in time saves nine dentist, she's telling that key to the did did did, did audiences will be full,

change fry mind with a and in which would didn't time saves nine. That was Benjamin Franklin. Poor, Richard's almanac. I I did got to read poor Richard's almanac, because there I mean there's How many things that that that man has so many so many quotes, and so many inventions and stuff I know bifocal lenses right. Oh, it's fucking, ridiculous when you're like- and I mean part of it, is that they were sort of like people needed things. It's like. It would be very hard now to create that stuff, because you would have to have knowledge of like really hard core science to make anything, then you would need like machines, and you know back then like. Oh, I wouldn't would be nice to be able to see far and near at the same time like he was creating these things that the world is needed at that time. I'll just put these,

I guess it's a new thing took a hammer, probably yeah both pieces of glass and just clicked. It was probably God dam boring from it. A certain point. Oh yeah yeah, this clock. You can see the days I get it. I know you know like every fucking day. He was probably the world just need so many things and he was just a guy that did that did that you know. Where is Edison like had an army of people working for him, but frankly Just like a guy. He was just a guy. If you're not a fan of medicine, I don't think it was a great man. I think he was fine. I think it is and was fine. I think so, and he was fine, but I think Franklin really was just a you know. Could it seem like a guy would look in a what you need. You need to put Allegra, and I don't know if you talk that way, but you say that you did in between by the way having sex, scores of ladies. At the same time, did you see the John Adams miniseries that Paul Giamatti did I'm girl

Well, I really cold outside. I would love that yeah. It was so great, it was, and he probably invented Bifocal, so he could stare at the vagina in front of him and the ones walking away across the room but grows or men's. Butts too, because now you're talking my language in the language while he was well, he invented a nut cereal to eat on his front porch. He would have done that uh German Franklin coming to theaters next summer, uh directed by Michael Bay that's that sweeten the pot yeah. I mean I wouldn't even have thought of him. I don't know who I would have thought for it to direct it, but he seems like a good choice because I feel like I would make it real. Lagi an iv he would he would put some fin. Do it then robots and I think it needs to move again. German Franklin need some. I don't know how you would crew

eight massive explosions in Colonial America, but he nobody is going to be it's not clear. This is not Benjamin Franklin, it's judgment, so she's, yeah, okay, right right, right, right, like in them. She dresses like like I'm, also is in like an even easier frocks, the manly frock. She does haven't tried male pattern, pattern ball although it yeah yeah big boobs. She pear shaped, like Franklin, yeah yeah. I for a second. If you weren't wearing your glasses, you would think Benjamin Franklin just walked into this year, like look at the sweet cans on Benjamin Franklin. Yes, no, that's Gingerman Franklin! I love this idea and I have. This- has been a really really great chat. We tried we talk. Almost an hour and a half. Are you serious, yeah yeah, there's a fucking good check we did it was. It was nice nice hanging out going to be like a year and a half ago is like how would you know would love to hear the podcast

I would love to and then schedules and it just gets hard and so, but I'm glad that if yeah I remember, we were down and at the I r g building yeah for yeah yeah. Would you for billing but yeah, but you know, come back anytime, you want, and you know, if you don't know the I would love it. Hang out, hang out sounds good all right, thanks for being here will Forte thank you debris to everyone, now, leaving Nerdist dot com. Enjoy your burrito.