0:00:00 - Opening.
0:02:36 - The story of Jason Dunham, with Bill Hampton, Kelly Miller, John Ferguson, Trent Gibson.
3:34:07 - Final thoughts and take-aways.
3:38:20 - How to stay on THE PATH.
4:12:00 - Closing Gratitude.
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This is juggle podcast number, two o three with me: Jacko willing.
I want to make sure everyone makes it home alive.
Corporal
Jason. Dunham too,
this friend Lance Corporal Mark Dean.
He was explained, dean.
Why he was extending his enlistment.
You're. Battalion was headed for a six month appointed to Iraq. G
And was due to get out and marine corps in a couple months into that deployment.
Which men his time was up and he could.
Carry on with his life. He had
honourably served his country done
what his country had asked him to do. But.
It wasn't enough for him.
Three signed on four enough time to complete that deployment.
In order to make sure that his friends, his.
Comrades.
His fellow Marines.
Made it normal life. Can that's what he did. He took care of his men. He led them. He protected them.
Then he gave them and all of us everything.
And it is an honour to night to have
Some of those men with us to tell us.
About Jason Dunham.
Are we lived
served and how he died. A man, a marine and a hero.
We have with us Corporal Kelly Miller, sergeant Bill Hampton
staff sergeant John Ferguson, Lieutenant Colonel Trent, Gibson gentle.
Thank you for showing up here
you're coming down by making the trip.
Adventure sittin on those seats to talk about this
and I want to get right into it,
go back to two thousand and three:
are you guys are.
You guys are in
S place in the world to be
the for true Battalion three seven Marines little
it's called twenty nine palms and you're all in
He will company, I believe
that's right, you're, you a copy company at the time. I was now at the time
I came in and late may have both three goes. It he d be,
gotta kittens crook horse team was packed. My shit and I go,
often from the battalion, so major Anthony Henderson and he says hey: when did you overhear your flying other election two weeks.
So he's gas had already been in country if the whole fucking March up were already back in cobbler, South Baghdad to stability and security operations. So I came in late May
To command of the current spent three months with keen on two August, when we'd redeployed.
It works. The same last ring the time back.
On seven state down in the charter, and so that was August, three worker in Dunham. Still a member of three four Kittle, three fourths
got it, but these guys Miller, I'm sorry happening furred there are there
for the whole fuckin march up and rested canyon
Miller came on August, a three is when I grant you know I was at school them tree. I went to boot, camping, Juno or three graduated September. Eleventh Avaux three went to school tree. I didn't get a twenty nine pause and tell his first month December,
her first first to December, two thousand three, so I join during the work up forever to
so tell me a little bit about the work up for that deployment was just jump into that
taking a bus ride, ten literally the middle of nowhere, which was torn up
arms and so
we had the ground sergeant,
trio took all of us.
There's a big it was big damp. I think he s got like twenty guys. Third yoga
and so literally we got off the bus innocently went to sit,
and got her hair and
when we got our rifles, we got our saviour plates and by the end of the day,
We're up in this
and hills
so you're a boot at this point
yeah. I read your check in and its
it's legit like here's your gear and now we're goin on some training exercise now yes
Video so that day we graduated the School of infantry at three o clock
by ten o clock at night
upon the sand Hill attached to opportune guinea.
It gets on,
What were you doing it this time?
Well, down I'll, take it
two October of oh two, because I was on security forces cadre. Do the little place called little Creek, which I am sure you are familiar with deed
and then I checked into the battalion and then what did the quick work up and then we did the push, but what
it's crazy about three. Seven. As I remember we were there for so long. We were the First Infantry unit in the desert and
slowly, the entire division built up around us and then on the
up to Baghdad. We were the first ones across the breach took so at San Juan Hill and in the whole snake head of the division just past as we fell in trail, and we
get the lead element into just about to go into Baghdad again
But what was unique is that we didn't either what were you? What were you at that time? I was a staff sergeant. I was up to him sergeant, okay for Kilo, one at the time Rodger and I had a good man up. Lieutenant Dave Fleming has my platoon commander
and then I had
Bill here he was one of my top saw gunners for that deployment. So I got to do nine months
all praise the saw gunners of the world women doubt that's the seeing just
Care very shall sing all day, for you did,
So you, sir, you are on that push up Dubell! Yes,.
And now you guys are all back. So
So you guys get done tour around deployment,
Do a quick tour around the go back again right, I think one of the quickest ones we did nine months and then are work up, and everything really did five months back in the states and went back.
For. I have to four eight months, so look twenty two period or twenty two months time we were deployed for seventeen of those
it was unreal and then I remember too that the data
they told us we were goin back, for I have two. It was
Friday and it was just before the ball weaken gets. So then, then the wives find out about all this and then so there are not. Two managed must have a good time at the ball in law. Them knowledge can think about is well. You just got back and I told her I was thinking. Maybe they should a rate now told us away till Tuesday after the seventy two you know, but let us have a good week with the Ladys good, all military and agreeing with me Jack
so that's that's a time you go back pay. Would you guys remember about?
when you meet Jason for the first time. So, if I can put this in perspective
Similar is talking about
graduate knows why the afternoon and in
being upon goddamn,
cardiac kill that fucking mind. So
This is a
The full five do better,
level. Train exercise it were conducting
station training schemes
take a bar search for time, one seven, who was the last time out. You know I have one
but we're gonna be the first time back. So they went overboard.
Words to set up a strain of force in.
Once said, Friday hits run a two week, weekly block for Christmas
then on the second January, were gonna, be
March AIR Force base
for one more but time train exercise and that's the last.
Tyler train we ve got before he purse.
And I'm gonna wind up going on in advance party.
Fuckin Valentine's day right so get some. It's all is happening, seven, including legal. We can offer type so
that afternoon forget him
upon the hill above
This role barracks were three cents,
this building.
And were ran through the stations in first
come to me says: hey Sir, we're getting thirty,
boots mess. Why tonight.
Second, excuse me,
thanks for the heads of foresight,
I know I'm shooting the messenger, but what buck
I'm not complain and we're getting thirty new moraines, but Jesus Christ. We get low heads up so
those monies are going to get plug right into the training right,
and so I get a decision to make about
how I'm gonna plug thirty brand new moraines into the company
which right now is really unbalanced,
there is a huge law
ass of ensues.
At the end of the last one
in a venue deployment right here: either yes sooner pcbs and so
We don't have an even spread of.
Leadership ranks
You don't have even spread of experience and another tunes,
You know, I think, second, but soon had like twenty Marines in it through.
The tune had twenty five, the time so
I'm a good decision. I do I do I just top. Everyone off at thirty
Somethin range in an overnight, if I did that
Two overnight is gonna, be twice as inexperienced, a secular three.
So a new there's got to be some manpower shifting in order
be bill. Absorb the new blood evenly without putting up a platoon at a deficit rank.
And on top of the dead,
from my
three months in country?
at the University of one,
the thing that was never happy, which was weapons. Is there
there are weapons, do not organizes stand around
and
in the environment were operating
that conventional task organisation had no place
holy impact,
article and unwieldy. If what
The tune was tasked with doing a patrol in
blood- they Adam borrow rifles-
from
another rifle timber
in order to they're a patrol
and on the other hand, if, if Kindle two was
on perimeter security,
Gonna have to
poor Marines are weapons of two to man. The machine guns.
That I've got on the friggin posts right so
it just made no sense. It was clusterfuck.
So newer, headed into an unconventional operate,
environment ass. I walked.
Looking it away if one we needed weapons guys in the rifle squads, bright needed
Rifle in the weapons for doing so
What am I just make for talking rifle tunes
I put weapons specialists in every squad. So if there
Rowan in in trucks, and I
a machine gun a truck than death squad,
can mandarin vehicles right
or if their honour, a damn perimeter post within,
two forty Gov, they don't have to pull
A marine from weapons do now the rotation to demand the damn gun
so I did what was at the time problem
the most unpopular thing in their history
You're coming
when the door got up,
I was gonna reorganise companies dnc as it stood, fucking shit fit well, but I'll put you in Groundwater battalion commander figure. This idea he didn't know jerk
I occur to me to telling until
my good friend, George Travelin Operations officer pulls his island Asus hatred
I share, reorganise coming yeah serve, says till Bosman know you think you're too,
There's only guessing radius here is just so
so good for certain I said: look,
you can adopt a company in a fucking pile,
time with the thirty new rings we had about a hundred and twenty seven rings slated to deploy. That was a hundred and
we need to trigger pullers was all I was gonna have so.
You divide that equally, amongst forever
things that give you
of ten man squads so
were you to pronounce the list of every marine in the company.
Certain on down with two swords time.
It doesn't work rules and all the rest landscape was in blue and
You can hold nfl style draft.
To make this fair
kill. One will get first, pick first round kill for we'll get. Fourth pick first round
For the second round killer,
formal get first big.
Would you go back and forth
going to fill in school leavers, first,
eighteen metres than women
specialists in every fuckin squad and in full in the rest of it far teams
Atomic only add to the tenth day, Fleming kill one and
J Joscelyn had killed too
What's your trip to grander head rotated up and
the website you commander head
fleet up his exile, grew socio,
so far it was turned down, is to grant or for uniform
he became the kettle fourteen ground.
So now wasn't just kill one two three and what
you use cure for so forth. Pick first round he picked culture
Trooper wrestler our
your call right, and then it was another one of my saw gunners that I have I have once I knew he was solid guy leadership, eyes and everything awesome
first pig second round for picked
No three, thirty one single Dunham.
There was a base.
Well during the year,
five months that we had had the weapons platoon, so I got to work with Jason, Dunham and
To see his leadership and the kid just had that it factor, and I think the Big
Thing about him was wanted.
Political laugh at himself, but the thing is, I think his leadership was so often cause he would tailor it.
To each individual rain? We all know he can how certain style leadership, but I really
like the way he did that and it took me
three years at the School of Infantry from Corporal to sergeant get back. They had fifty difference.
Goals, cyclic, good, cop, bad cop I can accept,
but when the biggest things I found out, even with brand new Marines.
If you give them a reason. Why are you tell them what's going on? They work that much better for you. So if this is with a bunch of boost that are just at a boot camp and they
perform that much better for you then,
What else can I do for a bunch of fleet land squabbles incorporates,
and I just
his style and I know I was taken at taking a chance cuz. I even got left up by some peers because we had company full combat veterans.
I also use your second pick. Two topics
some Dunham a guy from security forces. They had no combat experience. But, unlike that's, what am I
that's. What I want is a squad leader,
and one of the great things that they did, though they they did spread out the talent, because what they did is kill one.
For they put the scene
platoon commander until one
and then all the way and then than cure forehead? The boot platoon commander the juniors got
and then for the staff and seals we did the opposite a brand new or the juniors one was in Cuba One and I was the senior staff and seal so I have called for, and that was,
but also with the draft one, nor the big things that Kyoto six forgot to mention one of them.
We almost gonna do it at night, but we were working on godly hours, training. Everything like you know, I mean
couple hours for this cause
myself and then he took it seriously at times Ass, our Walker here
I went home and I basically took I gotta company roster and I put everybody knew for categories from
must have great average
and then I evenly did this and I put the and then even once they in these categories. I write
them one through thirty or whatever,
So when I went in there I was ready forthe, all my pics. I was going right down the list and then boom that I had like a little triangles or squares for saw Gunner, Zorro, three hundred and thirty one and fifty one,
and restructuring the company at the time. It was kind of like a groundbreaking, but it was by far one of the best decisions we ever did Anne
spending three hours that night, my wife was mad at me, doing that that set up
the foundation for having a grateful to those who gets to pick their able to
I got to experience. Are these guys?
and real world combat ops in real world training.
So I felt very fortunate unknown.
It s kind of like an unfair advantage for Europe, because you knew the guys you knew the guy's better than
The officers would right right,
So what about the other up? Tink manners? I knew
like there to top squad leaders too, so that you know their picks would be so. I went even put those guys on my board. Client is anticipated them get taken their first.
One two or three guys and so
it just worked out really well fur.
Myself personally, the but soon and then also for the company to with
strategic maneuvers out there. I watch out for those that are you make it happen. One day a week, he was impressive because the
the two guys who took that draft most seriously were Fergus.
And water, and you could tell when you
When, for certain put the final rosters in front of me, you could tell should put the most work into and is a testament to.
To this man's sense of commitment.
Responsibility now his degree of ownership to
put that much time into it and we did
we didn't have any goddamn time.
I made this decision on
a Wednesday Thursday right of
Second, the last week of training and
we pulled the trigger on Friday right
So by the time the Marines went on
to a Christmas, lay block the new
squad organizations have been announced, but the fur.
The time that those
what leader stood in front of their rings was on.
Second, in January and March AIR Force
the first day of
The last five days of a tiny little train, we're gonna, have forfeited deplored
we accepted the degree of risk in it,
but in the end
getting that spread of talent spear
since leadership and fresh blood spreading
evenly across the company. I felt quite common,
going into a way of to thrive.
Plugin rifle squad into a mission and they be off there,
how to rid the bandit off. Just like hey we're just gonna do this, we gotta do it. We cannot let her otherwise you,
to a country now, so you look around goddamn. This isn't working away its boss to work and I need you,
move people out that's
infinitely worse than just gettin a done so so,
bill and color. You guys were you guys immediately in Jason, squat that I worked,
when I first arrived, I in first platoon for the first time up,
it lasted five day
for Christmas leave em. So now I I'd seen
but I do know who he was
oh bill was asked
I only knew the guy that showed up with doubt you're keeping your mouth shut and your ears open. I was really good at keeping my mouth shut. My ears open, do what you told so I got. I got put in charge of a couple of the other boots to make sure they're the right away. When I got there
memorable memory actually of when we first showed up is I met first, our attempt at times and
at the time captain gives comes over an address us remember it's the memory he stood with the sun directly as back I know
How can I deal with it? Look like at all I couldn't. I can see him. I couldn't see pictures I can see anything, but if you ever met this man when he talks, you listen
I remember like the presence he had. I think I'll go
with this guy this guy,
and what do you think about? The report will be honest.
I think I think carve a whole- and I were we achieve
words. First,
lives that we kept to ourselves, but, in the end.
Entrusted Sesar Adverts and we were
I can elaborate on that too, because if you think you got these two guys era in through nine months and they know the drill and then they got this brand new Security force corporal come in and I saw that are some animosity and obviously if they were senior to him than these guys by all right. What I had that, but Jason had the rank and everything I saw that leadership. So I had to take that chance.
It was weird to see the Bonn because the two fire team leaders like I said they are a little but her a bit about it,
but then the way Jason eventually one them over and everything
display smiles leadership. You just did that to people as its cough spot to get put into you're. You got no combat experience european in here and you're gonna start taken over four guys that do
combat experience
certainly think that day
deserve that role. That's
the tough one word
that guy brought about
reorganization, like from it
brand new boot.
Doesn't know anything
as soon as we organization happened, one of the side effects was, I learned how to shoot machine guns. Cuz, I was surrounded by a couple. Machine got to learn about mortars. I learned about demo, you know by
The time I deployed Io Data Dunham
girl me sort of a machine guns, I could clear and operated.
You, forty, I understood
Like the basics to shooting a fifty cal, if I had to adapt in Chino like I, I had more knowledge than I was trained for a schoolroom tree so like that we organization really started to cross breed us and everything in it. I wasn't just no three hundred and eleven. I was more of an o three everything cuz. I could function in more than one situation with one weapon
That's that's good across the board. So what do you guys did, every or January
but after leaned well before we pulled the trigger on it.
Before they went on to its of leave for Chris before Christmas got. It is the first time those squad.
Stood the new squat stood together
was on day. One trail signal January got it
in you guys come back
Would you get when you come back and said he knew one more battalion. Big battalion actually was anywhere. That was
Second, through the sex now and then just
its load out time
Could you guys are deployed in February
and did you guys know where you goin on appointed to yet
what was the
What was the kind of thoughts had now there? How much did you guys know about it,
starting now to Al Qaeda, that's that's! We gotta get told you ve been out to Algeria.
The battalion was already leaning into a George Shreffler was the operations officer. He had to leave my tummy during the march up and he's hands down the most comprehensive leave for fish
professional, I've ever been honoured to serve with, and so
he was given as much entails occurred from there
very squadron it we return or with first the thirty zero was up and all kinds of atomic after they had been in country for little prick Mars
operating out of their debt,
so, on the syrian border.
And you say about and in their cattle
headquarters was at the train station in all kind, which was about twenty miles south
these to preserve the border post. You saver,
so we knew that things were going to Helen had basket up there and across
Iraq is a hold if you're listening
the news reports that listen impure more common in, and
european attention that you knew did this
This was gonna, be a wild worsening? Wasn't gonna be the same.
Environment that we had experienced at the end of the push up. You know the last
three months ago? If one,
it really hit me. One day I was, I was coming in listening to
and pure news in normal
rifle company commander had been killed that weak
and issue than on the radio known at irrevocably. Commanders kill the
You know that this is gonna, be a different fucking show
what you're deployment the actual logistics of appointment? You guys are, you guys are flying over yet so
We flew in
I went ahead, but everytime main bodies are cut me. Gunny life contact you
was killed on the fourth wise
He and I went over with the rest of the other, come commanders and coming guns to get things.
He so we went into all kinds of what are their probably week. I think before
betimes mean body started echelon in
flew in and then trucked all the way up from way,
so these guys guys.
Pretty by the time they got up. There
So we fell in on that
station
We knew that killer was gonna, be taken over four fox troop. I think
Then he so again they had their responsibilities.
Roughly same as one would take. No words was traveller. Sata treat
sprawling settlements, east of the border, town of who sabre
oh, we went in, and
and started a turn
over. With that cavalry true
and they ran through some basic things like
some basic patrolling through
with his own doing vague
searches had a cordon
offer robe kinda vehicles,
churches, pasty house.
She's whatever in it.
In the process of that
turn over? I had to give
two.
Teams are new that was coming
had four rival to right leg. Just
organized for this fight, and then I was told that I was given up two of em
to the time and effort which is leading a company in who Sabre so
that was of may never. So I gave him my best to render the Fleming kill one and then to make it.
I just said: our killer once go and then I'll essential for to go with them, which gave me
kill to give three
during that turnover. How long were they gonna, be? You know, take on
to this other to the southern company. Temporal lobe
as promised that I get have cable for back after months, but
regaining Gannon company. He needed as much
ass is possible that the first month just to get two feet wet and get established, and this was because they were to be rolling in in and try this
in any safer in whose sabre- and so we say, but was the centre of gravity for the Baton, AOL right, so
and it's the border crossing
in point with Syria, if so there,
determined to be there
the time and effort, and so
he just loaded him with his mother
Manpower as possible in order to me,
the transition
as seamless as possible when we took over the ale from the army. Is the anytime
There is a unit turnover in country, the movie
and now the right and and you're gonna get tested, and so
new that go into it. So you want to make sure that the dilemma had ass much ass possible, so they could go in as heavy
possible
there strong presence and
If things go without getting bloodied too bad
as ever. The first Marty
in you say that they ran platoon, size patrols, didn't run squat patrol
lightest June had ever stepped
in the zone was of fuckin uttered. Meanwhile,
in my own, I fuckin sick,
squads the whole
hold down the polio wits, and so we were rolling in squash eyes shows from the outset
what over some of these patrols. Forget you guys we're goin in what are you guys doing.
Lottery would just get familiar with the area and then because we did happen, tunes who do the satellite patrolling were even though we all go in the same direction. We may we have one squad on the street, the other Scott on this street, still keeping visual I'd. I haven't phase lines and check in and
now just getting to tee to know the ale.
And I remember that it was. It was called
for a while, because we just relieved an army mecca
unit, and now you got Marines boots on the ground so eager to like insurgents were taken.
A little bit and then nothing happened for a few days and then all of a sudden it just started and just the fanatics
kept flown and it was like captain
ass, games back and forth now
talking early or for some one thing: it's interesting is
there were I, but they work
as bad as they got, I mean they warn as bad as they got in all five six or seven. I mean that they just got worse and worse at this time,
you're see. I obviously like I said, I'm not saying there wasn't any ideas, but
Was that what you would you consider rolling out into town your maid, for I was I diesel was it you know,
for an hour or two small arms by I've saved a little bit of both that you're absolutely right arm. Some of them were buried too deep orbit
backwards, I know, are not the battle. The seventeenth myself in carbon hall, there was one
Between us and one summit to kick the blast and cap out, we heard was little small pop and like one of those pucker fact
yes but yeah
the middle of a baton,
attack declared the year term
It's what you got to rolling in how off what you're optimal like you won't take the optimal
meaning like how often regos you guys doing ops.
We were doing them, it was
to day
six hours. Each is about a day and night patrol.
Each patrols about six hours, because you'd go from we'd go here.
Town and back.
Well another thing that was crazy as you, you know you have a set mission and then something would happen. You would have to secure a vehicle that got hit by an id or
you get this new Franco to go to this house that you heard could have been a torture chamber? Had insurgents
so I remember going out there and then Afore
or a patrol turn into an eight hour patrol
at the time or twenty eight. But I remember my back was killing me because I had extra large savvy plates walk in all the time
and later on, we learned that from the the war fighting lab came out lower attached back to Kyoto, they came and wages
and I remember I was about to twenty five at the time
me and my first aren't, or one of two only Marines that we're over three hundred pounds with full combat francs in all our stuff in we laugh about it because at the time in other some those anti tank mines, you just need three pounds of pressures. Dale foresaw asked that there are six depth on any be good to jump up and down on me until then we have to worry about it
your question about the evolution of the ideal is
whose fascinating commentary and seize it
The idea threat the first. The third was dealing with
eighty two mortar rounds, one five
two artillery shells all usually
trying to decorate this, sir
soviet style, red dead court and so
when the mover first employees very know enough to bury the fuckin deck cord so
rolling into town and need to see this string a red right coming out of the desert terminating at the roadside and like oh, what do you know? Maybe we shouldn't drive over there, but
By the time we left the had already evolved into command dead visa.
Not cellphones, but cordless phones can quarters phony having your house Round Vtech or
but we came in there
to move your used to dealing with an armored threat and
thing that scared that soldier,
the most from the cavalry. Was
a sixty millimeter chinese Rock
the sing it showed up and zone
several months earlier and
The moon were
affixing these things to walls they would
They would mortar in around
and this thing so he could Caesar Circle rang.
Indeed set it up about Bay,
the term height
and way for vehicles role by
in our opinion halls and mean betel tanks
and once I had not said the other of it bravely fine vehicle so
you're scared, shitless sex
and remember they put it tat a display and make
if shareholder in time cp of
different types of ideas that day they had encountered during their too
tour, which is really instructive. Rusks, where he's got get eyes on
So what does? Was a chinese rocket unlikely fucking Jesus
and were run out of and today.
Day of relief in place when it was finally effectively
first. The third was run out.
Upon the Bradley.
Fox troop Commander, who is my counterparts in the turnover
shake his hand and thank him for the turnover he looks
behind me
at our rose Hobbes, which were
soft skin hobbies,
We had four onwards that
the first two thirds org
in itself propelled battery had used it turned in their supper.
Howitzers for whom these wants it.
Into their end,
if one,
thank God to gives for them
we spreading out amongst time. So for came to kill and-
This asking of these Marines are in the process of strapping used army road wills that they had scavenge from that frightened scrap heap
and strapping knows
cargo straps to the side of her humvee, so handsome armor,
and he looks at her knee looks many says
you're gonna fuckin. Do it
we were all we're. Gonna choice rank
within a few weeks ago.
His rock disappeared needed that one
to each mortar ram. Do just fine
and they had their hands
full of anti tank mines and they propose to good effect
They learn to platinum upside down,
he could get her rear will strike? The aims of a friend was drunk
because you know, if you feel for
strike and only with a mine.
Can Killilea grant but most likely
We get guys may get a broken further. Robe leg
but she could have rural strike
chill at least one rainy proverb too.
If you do that, shit out
On the last day of our turn over with
look at me one seven.
Certain Templeton
stepped on one of those damn thing's left his size. Fourteen
fucking blueprint right, written alive
Thank God who is planned upside down had been there awhile.
Slant. Squabble engineer comes up
the answer to off to stay
her face first with this fuckin.
And I don't mind breaks out, his care bar starts on earth in it
MRS I'll be there. I swear to God. I don't tell me it's upside down, I think spoken upside down.
Then just an angle: heart tat, red Fidel.
Bout
months into the deployment
What did you guys?
guys prefer to be in vehicles or on foot foot deaf man.
We had a unique situation because we were attached to the main effort lemme company for a while, so we were used to patrolling on
and then we had great.
This version is deafening, going back to the vehicles it took a while because yeah winds was uncomfortable
I mean in remedy. We we don't like being a vehicles, I mean COS,
You just don't have any control, you know,
I mean I was a damn vehicle commander and I didn't feel like I had in control cuz, you just can't see what's happening fast enough, you can't see an id fast enough. Whatever
so I always felt at we pretty much,
Did everything we could too
take the vehicles to where we needed to take him to get out of those things walk without the same that you guys were failing,
we will get dropped off. We can judge wade
get dropped off and they go in. I would
go back and no support cure, raffer or whatever wave
Wait to go get us. Are they go?
check out another spot
on the other side of town, while we're: U satellite to them, got it.
Would you like better, though bill? Did you like better sit in a humvee, we're gonna start? An idea. Has her outlay?
one for us. We weren't rowing in Britain.
Border humbly. We're high backed
So in the back of the hungry there was.
Six of us seven
climbed in there. I do it in you, just
Dr, though, is in your easy targets. You drive fast here. What can you identify going? Forty five fifty fast enough to stop, do not hit it, and so I was
to be on the ground. If I got more control sweet
came up with a method
employment, that involved what I came to call
split section so we'd have to contracts. Ask
worrying too high backs right source if you put a an upper limit of front because it head armor, if you're gonna had ninety
and then to too damn high backs and one rifle squad,
which was organised, ended too far. Teams give you didn't, have largely
squaws have three far too great, so
far too many traffic and
by the time we were
country long enough. We figured out you take
third squad and those guys are gonna man, the vehicle itself to drive it they'll vehicle commanded and no gun it. We got
two forties eventually now and on the tops of these things and then
had left you with two four,
dismounted rifle
our teams, one in each time.
Great indeed, you had another gun truck in trail, so
you get where you're gone too far.
Squad. This mouse and didn't knows for trucks. Could satellite around the dismal house to keep
enemy? Guessing
these guys did their work,
What was the how
gonna take for you guys do take casualties Rowan
there, you remember
times. First, casualties were on Saint Patties Day: Ferko
so you got there in February and say tat his days, what end March middle
our march
The actual-
active transfer of authority day, I think, was
the damn? I think, the first week of March,
maybe say it wouldn't long before we put
our first casualties cat
took an idea check my fifty one in my zone,
we're still run around with windows down ring,
hit, the elbow another marine took shrapnel through the window into the back of his legs. Gunnar did
and then use either.
The same day or right after that that
but under his first care to kill
in a real or mine strike in age,
a triangle which was the western and of kilos zone
against
waddies delay
the eastern edge of whose,
and limit, can be found
Kay, was at this
sort of no man's land right between them.
I would still leave zone, but it belonged to me
at the end of the day,
deployment
the vast majority of the tides casualties had occurred in each case.
Kelly how'd you at this point. I turn
twenty one on April. Second sick. So like a couple
So in country twenty one I got pulled
of my
my bed by had first to my sleeping bag, and I was given my twenty one happy birthday
I, what do you at this point now you how much you to change your per cent,
perception and perspective when all of a sudden you here you know the battalion has taken casualties,
came from a military family. I may I got
my grandpa's in one or two in the navy
my dad and my uncle were in Vietnam
cousin in desert storm
law enforcement everywhere. So I grew up
with an understanding of service
and when I join the Marines we are already in country. Casualties are happens in
now, cruder make no bones about it. When I told him I wanted to be in the cemetery,
you do know you're gonna, deploy Isaac Game, I'm well aware
I didn't going blind, you others, some guys it
they join the Marines. Knowing what I read in fact, did you join
the news, pick the newspaper, so I
you. I knew what I was getting myself into it and that never pairs
you for it by
we are surrounded by such good leadership. You know
through our going for four years. I three different command sets.
In my first one was
of the highest quality?
literally and
I never I we shall all be taken care of
and at Easter at all, because I
believed in the guys that were above me,
it made it easier if
in a really weird sense. I was felt com. I never went out nervous,
other heard of the Marines,
it's like you're going out, and you know that every single guy you're going out is going to do everything in their power to make sure you make a home and make it back in.
Confidence and calm. You know
I never felt uneasy are never scared.
Just there to do a job esprit de corps
Yes, thank you know. How old were you at this point bill twenty to twenty two
some you're talking to a lot of these guys that brought on that we're going into the most horrible situations, whether it was
Tar were gone
can a wherever
in others, theirs.
Given that the young man has written.
We all know- which is it's gonna happen to someone else like that.
People are to get hurt people he will not be really get killed, not gonna be me
and in job just telling you guys but D Lad, who had just sat on the park asked? Who is?
water canal. Tar were sidelined.
Intention, and he
never have thought about. You know he was I going up, I'm sure some border take actual take casualties as we crossed the beach to Guadalcanal
and I'll try and help those other guys as much as I can cause is not have to be so
and it had. I know you guys know this too
I had guys
and I'm sure you guys know guys that fought
they were the one that was absolutely gonna, be the one that gets it get like this. That was in your mind, and God bless him
because I don't know how they did it day after day, but they go yeah it was. The guy was got a bad feeling about this one man, I gotta back you'll, be ok bra, it's gonna be all right. They always,
After all, it got their home. A back on you know, but to me
seem like people fell into those camps for the most part, and I'm sure you no occasion some of us do. You know
we're taking casualties. I could be one of em, but for the most part I think people are either hey
going to happen, someone else or
it's gonna happen to be so arrogant as risk are what I see Jack. I think you're, like a hundred percent right and I've been fortunate or unfortunate to see, combat and my early twenties with Somalia at twenty.
In Iraq and then thirty eight,
Afghanistan and I think, as a young twenties, you feel invincible in your. Don't think it's going to happen to you. Are you just operate in your there? You wanna be the one to kick the door and you want to be then clear, the room and they,
Twenty eight
I started leading war Marines and I become
You understand your mortality in what we do want is not normal.
And in a fire and stuff and explosions, and then, when I was a company first part four to one
Then I just wanted to be that father figure and take care of mom, and all you see all these young rings. They just want to see that grizzly dot com
and then you know,
You know it's not. What has cracked up to being that grizzlies power, Frank fight back
I definitely from
perspective,
was always hey. I'm not worried about me. I'm worried about my guys. You know,
I was always in a leadership- is exacerbating the matter as a task nuke manner. So for me it was always a mortar
My guys, you know like in
eggs absolutely right. I mean I was twenty one. I I was on the island.
I was gonna, be me bandwagon enemy.
Why? I frequently ran point as I gotta be forefront on being the lead on the beach.
Friday's summit,
happens. It's gonna shoot me. I know how fast I am buying a wall. You know I never ever enough.
Crossed my mind. I need a new, really weird wave and with all the countries that have an I didn't think I was an option
chinks it at least from my experience, but
this sense
from other range,
as casually started, ravenous lemme, was, was taken away
the majority of the bright and- and I was probably
nuclear corrected at seven about the king casualties.
Had been more Sabre problem, but anyway the
as they started happening on a regular basis,
at least for me,
No longer a question of, if you just question win
So I eventually just decided, what's gonna happen right, I mean
regaining lemme coming Commander
and for the range killed
in opening stages of the battle for save on the seventeenth three days.
Have you done with it from each man? Oh god just like that, so it wasn't
a question of issuers gonna happen so
leave me. I just resolve that was going to happen,
so was accepted that it was easier to operate because
You didn't have that uncertainty about whether or not it would happen so it
like well when it comes to council and allowing for do about it. So
to get things done
I think, there's
I would say, to a large degree in and acceptance amongst the Marines
we didn't pull back
One day we didn't fuckin operate in it, some multiple
one day. I was after
our three Marines on their the damn fitted to lie
one day
we did not send a patrol.
Yeah. I know I know for us, certainly Rowan into remedy. In two thousand six.
Was there was,
Memorial service is going on
Every other day, every two days for soldiers and reads ever get killed him. It was it was that
So much like you're talkin about I knew
Every time we rolled out the gate.
Or every time my guys rolled out the gate. There's a dead,
chance that some
That was going to happen and you are all evening
whose do everything you can to mitigate that risk.
But there's no possible way
to mitigate all the risk that doesn't happen.
Even even if you say you know what we're gonna stay in camp,
there, you're gonna get Mordred so
my attitude was default. Aggressive, we're, gonna, go and take the fight to the enemy in that was certainly the attitude of the troops that were in my body was or not,
sit back the way forward to take to fight the enemy.
And I believe that the best thing you can do you have to, I think, and
The most inspiring thing to me was
watching these Marines
Diane
Day out every fuckin day.
Like the danger, despite the casualties, despite
what times, I'm sure seemed like a ridiculous mission, despite all that
the cold resolve.
Do the job
Keep each other safe in the process was Miss humbling.
American sons out there,
Devoid of any political context,.
What they were doing there are doing for each other there,
it's also interesting to think about
when you say American sounds look
Americans come from all different kinds of backgrounds, but
fact of the matter is: when you live in Amerika. You or a privileged human being
Do you have opportunity-
even if you're, the
most on motivated person in America. You still live a pretty
decent life
when you compare it to that of a grunt overseas livin in some out station somewhere off
Emma Rees at crappy bottled water, shit Nina a damn outhouse burdens. I mean just the whole nine yards, so
when when these
you know it's not like: hey people join the military.
Maybe there's that idea, how I'm trying to get out of my home town, which I know I certainly did hey, I want to get out of my hometown. I want to go somewhere, I wouldn't be in the world, but
your signing up to two
put all that american privilege on hold you're gonna, put on hold and you're in
go out there and you're gonna live in
horrible situations with the threat of
being wounded, killed it that's the way it is an end.
Yeah, when you see that
and when you see those
service members.
Rowan out, like that day after day after day, and that's you have talked about this intervention,
you. You might remember this
Kelly, but they had the earth
the vehicle graveyard, the vehicle graveyard of all these blown up vehicles was on the road.
The head into the main gate. So when you are driving to go out into town, you are driving past
droid not just destroyed Humphreys, seven done seven tonnes. Take
that they dragged back in school
that was your letter, was your little send off every time you have to get a camera body, others, seventy five or a hundred vehicles that have been destroyed, and you know that each one of those men
some level of casualties when you know got real. There is the two year de vehicles there in a graveyard that had to be barrels earlier, bear Caterpillar now yeah,
those those big mine resistant vehicles. They were, they blew one of those things in half so yeah.
That's that's! What you're signing up for and yet
american sign up for voluntarily.
Every single day.
Out there do the work
What was morale overall
wrong? That's wrong here. Strong
his resolve
my assessment
finally, resolve we're in
When I get out of it right, we got a fucking job to do we're gonna get it done
we're not gonna, let up the enemy.
Wants us to focus
to break. They want us to feel sorry for ourselves,
Turner, Fucking Baxter Minute, and when I don't fucking given to pure,
They will not win what I a boot
active, but a really working happens budgets,
It's happened, you gotta, try you get shot at
and I d goes off- doesn't take out
There is one situation arpeggio vehicle to guide in orbit.
What're you doing about base you, nobody,
you sit around. We fuck enough about it's a joke about it.
And I've told that a lot of people in people look at you
you're crazy, but the reality to it
you do that because by
making it a joke. It's not serious.
Gotten due to get him out
We actually have video of one
small elements without eating rahmati got to a big gun fight after they were some iraqi soldiers want to rock you smoke, you got wounded, one iraqi soldier killed,
called it attacks the tax waited escorted em back put down fire Kazaa back the whole nine yards
the report back in one of the over watched. The over watch positions was video in them
their competent like world war, two style it a column. The in between two tanks
Therefore, patrolling back in the video the video cameras track it on, and you can hear the
the potential. If tony affrati looks up at the care at yells, everything's, a big job, that's up to you said about exactly. Yes, if you take everything to seriously you're gonna go crazy, so there's
That's another thing that can't be stopped. The american resolve can't be stopped and the american sense, if you prefer, to stop no doubt about it
let's roll into
let's roll into April, fourteenth
so April fourteenth. This is pretty much
what do we do with another day at the races, for you guys what you're, looking at nothing
abnormal seems at pre standard.
Type of operations that you guys were doing at the time he has. The only difference is that cuz now we were back with dark Kilo. Company proper. There was back with six, and we way we looked at it is instead of walking outside the gate, to work. We get a ride to work and then would do our patrols, but dad at the one thing that was different. That day
squad size by
to say that what you were saying I know now you got into Kilo in our
We know enough ass to roll out in the voting.
Some terrific, a rain.
So for the first six weeks I was pumping out
It leads to patrol the day. For the first four weeks, we ran for patrols a day with six squaws. Indeed, they were
smoked. Every marine and in the company was sick. It was like a freaking,
sick ward in that warehouse
it was heartbreaking at night to listen to all those Marines, coughing and hacking and
Fucking sleep in a no one, but I was gonna, send him out on the next fucking patrol, regardless of what state therein
We had no choice but to rolling squad size patrol. So
kill for actually got a bit of a break in
we now have who saved, because now the up,
simple, maybe the same, but now, instead of happened it
send the whole damn tuna. Now you know you could rotated do one squad time so
The time had just
graduated the first,
class of iraqi policemen from this police academy. The tanker
AU thought up
at an attached in people to and
He understood that policing by the Iraqis was the key to the
thing right:
that's an impressive. That's
pressing force? I right there because I was thinking about that when I was reading this book
this idea of iraqi police became a national programme in two thousand and six before
that had become something called. It was
caught desert protector, which was sort of the same thing like when you get home grown kids.
Young men to help. Please
and a lot of that for
I've been told, came from our time when the push happen through our time, but that wasn't two thousand five that
poor chap and Alzheimer's Operas Matador
and those Marines got
civilians that came up to hey, there's bad guys over their Haytersbank over there and the idea was ok. Let's get that lets blitz higher those people, so we're talking now, two thousand for and you're Battalion Commander
coral Lopez was already in the game. Thinking that way, that's impressive force. I right there that's outstanding and I go ahead incredible sense of ownership. You never wave permission to do anything he just like. Ok, we need to finally come we're. Gonna have one, and so he
his Mps, not that shit out, did it three recourse and
at the end of the course
chrome calls me and says: Hey Kevin Gibson tomorrow we're gonna zone. I'm gonna pay
the first two weeks of pay for these pleesmen turn it over to the police chief,
we got thirty. Three police recruits that we just graduated and
I'm giving them all to the travel place. It wasn't up to the iraqi police Chiefs to determine where their man Paragon, Crow Lopez, decided. Third, are going the traveller so Kilo, you got him and what I want you to do to reinforce the skills they just learned in this. Please cadmium. You
a conduct around the clock patrolling these guys for forty period too,
show the people of Crasweller rings,
the police, work side by side and Iraqis doing their job. This is this. Is this incredible foresight from girl, open,
for sure that's brilliant, and so he said
we're going in,
homage meet right, so
At the same time, I need you. Do
identify a prospective location for company patrol base to carry this
joint operation. Out of so
I can be a permanent base like hey we're looking for someone for days. Ok, ok, but we're looking for four days. Yet gentle matters have time for made fee
it establishment of any
thing below the size with time
Zone right. So you see you
come in for a straight to patrol daddy
so I came back and grab full ten rounds in Cuba for since,
they were on the rotation now and, I said hey. I need a fuckin squad to get me into zone immoral and
by the way I am
The big issue, because during this patrolling operation, kill for is gonna, be perimeter security for the patrol base.
So I need you guys to get eyes on this water treatment plant and confirm for me whether or not it can answer the mail for us from a security standpoint. So for you guys, this is like a re gone
to find out where you could establish this forty fire base and that you really cannot patrols out there for,
four days with iraqi police and it was right situated right behind a police station so make perfect sense because we're gonna grab.
Two they were going to be. The patrol platoon
We would have a squad size patrol around the five o clock we
policemen embedded in it,
killed. Three you're gonna be local security patrols for life.
Six hours straight,
outside the perimeter,
if the enemy offer fuckin backs and kill for you, ve got the perimeter security for the patrol base itself.
All right. So you guys Rowan
did you roll in with the kernels
with his convoying negative. We met his patrol
on site at the police station. Ok, sir, you to shut up first, you guys not color
ok, so Colonel Lopez there
they're doing their meat. Great he's paying people here
he shaken hands and in establishing that, and then you guys role in their afterwards
meet with him?
and now you're doing your assessment.
In any event, you have
who's. The element dust with you right now with just you who is it is killed
search queue of what you that's. That's that's who you have they were your escort go into their basic retract. So,
in addition to Dunham squat proper, we had attachments rang for being one of them because he was gonna, be the fourteen starting in charge a parent or security. So he wanted fucking eyes on to to get
a good idea of exactly what he was gonna need to pull out,
a perimeter security plan right
and then we had stopped
by our right
there are three
we also had tea payment.
For the time was framework ass. He was, he was the one turn over the cash for sure,
and we had brought along. We had started in order to stem the stadium kiss.
The defence of plan. I was also
put in
sniper hives because I wanted. I wanted
no interference whatsoever with this joint operation.
And based on the feedback we ve gotten from first the third
It got in a couple times to try- and
stay was patrol bases and every time did they learn in their couple.
For they were taken waters,
turns out in the day. I think they didn't have strong enough local security rent
I think they're there since inherent sense of protection that came with an armored unit.
They think they took some things for granted that it set
rifle company wasn't taken for going to get a little bit detached. Will you inside our right? There's it there's a connection missing between you and the local populous? If you're not careful about it in a certain sense of invincibility, I think, or
for sure for sure. The
rooms main battle tank is
the bad has he or she can give everyone a sense of invincibility until, of course they had ideas that can take em out
So you guys get there.
And now you're
The colonels do it has got a thing and then
at some point, he's gonna leave and he leaves- and you guys are now doing a deeper assessment. Your check and things out, probably looking we're gonna set up sniper of watches and whatnot
We had we transitioned over to the treatment plant by then
Tighter Manders patrol continued to who per head,
plan to visit Z, New Iraqi,
they station and then continue underlying got. It
so heading into this.
Heading into this mission were you're gonna we're gonna stay for a few days. Was there anything from a planning perspective
That was different or that you noticed headed into it,
or for me I hadn't, even I'd, started the draft of the
company order for their new enough did already.
When I was assigned to do and
I'd be flesh in that out.
Days ahead.
Of most immediate concern was the patrol the next day
getting us in their conduct to return
and that mission planning phone Dunham and
said to him as the
I squad leader in charge of deep Troy, he had more than just his rooms. He was responsible for he had another
ten Marines in escort from the cats blood section
to another
squad minus that was gonna, be men and the trucks it was given his squatting designed so all told he had something like twenty five
Marines. She was responsible for in that patrol and
it was his first time doing. It is hard
to that end, and you say, but he was always up to ten Robinson rank
obtain sized patrol
Tal time, Europe so
in addition to that, there was a bit of
anxious to act, but
concern in the air of the company as a whole. We just fired two rightful squabbling:
both from the same tune cure three too
apples that had talked a good game
came across is nowhere near shit. No during the
train back into my palms and worse,
acted is squaw leaders
Colonel three one and kilos registry and
by the time we were in Europe third week of operation,
in our time
you could tell
In DE mission brief,
prior to step off weather,
squad leader. The fuck is going
whether she had put
time and effort into preparing his moraines for that fucking patrol and
these two Marines Stick Robles, weren't, taking it seriously enough, they didn't.
Grasp the gravity of the situation. They thought they could just bullshit their way through it, and so we fired him and we put
a lance corporal in charge of killed,
three days,
those
Salvador from EAST
fucking level risk telling
outcome that Fuckin could fight
and he added extremely strong sense of ownership.
Did. I saw
stood out to me during our train
March AIR Force base. In early January, sport,
new guys in
Before and after every training patrol just
teaching them everything he forgot to get them up to speed,
without arrogance.
And when I saw the odyssey, you know what that guy. He needs to be a squad leader, but does it shook out? He didn't get selected, but when-
opportunity arose and those
to Corpus got fired.
You need to be said. He was a boy
the conclusion that Danny Santos was taken three three and then
Pfc, Matthew, warrior took killer three one
should, of course, always did Coke between right before. Oh, if one round she had been busted down, so he was in the same group. Is that some of the other corporal squatters? But he was
Pfc, but it didn't matter to me
because the gangway shit
and he was afraid to stand up and opened his mouth right so
to me was more far more important to have a marine him
newest shit,
and wanted it.
To be in charge that fucking squad than anyone was fucking rag. Didn't matter to me was performance based, rewards right that point. The only thing that matters is fucking performance. I don't care what your rank is
This was hanging over the company. Rang
European. Your squad leaders see
other squanders getting fired.
They know that they were never to shit, one bag right and
I can tell. The done was nervous about that.
Care so much in
he didn't want to screw. Anything are
and let there be any doubt in my mind
You deserve to be squandered
hey deserved that Roy
It was so obvious that he was nervous, and I think the marine or just military in general puts the sphere in you that you don't want to let anybody down and just if you have self respect you want to be prepared and you don't
like an asshole, you just want to have all your eggs one basket than he was nervous, didn't
that our skipper here was in all ages, his last duly station. He was struck her at the empty offers.
I also greatly
as there is a little intense, so Dunham was little bit worried about that. But, unlike Jason, just do what you done do what you're taught
round. The checklist said everything up will help you out whatever you need.
So this patrols due to step as your way and it's midnight on thirteen debate,
and I'm in this- you see, I got
You operator Cresswell, I think, on the radio such as me
press can Dunham
and we had this make shift
Nick table that we had inherited from the fox true and head too.
Laminated copy of the dam.
Company Ale,
satellite imagery on the whole table rank so that that was the table covering
it was a useful planning to
Donna was sitting there and he was writing his order. It was fucking midnight right.
He spent the whole damn day
given his squad ready for that fitting Detroit hidden.
Bothered with Paypal
You know, but he knew TAT he needed to give in order the next morning
spent the whole damn time
given them ready for the mission
and there he was gonna, be losing a lot asleep
in order to make sure that they also had proper freak in order before they step
some sitting there watching him bear chested thought fucking,
boots and utes. Chest
working on his order.
And it in his midnight and cut
Hampton carbon welcoming
dunams too far
did what we do best
the Chow
second walkin in with his card board trade with some tray rat
fucking, eggs and probably slab
pan rank something whatever they get, what it was when the not remember the sun.
Such look like oh just
But I remember there's saucer, John and thus nasty eggs and
hush that beef hash,
terrible, but
the horrors of war.
Walk in there, and I look up
and I realize it reaches to its is too, for converting gotta play to chow form
He looks at me says what says an Hampton says: he spent your day.
Take care of us when we have had time to carriers of its charm and
always remember, being student at TB ass in a single tenant inherent stories from instructors about
Being a good leader has an officer
and if you're doing your job,
taken carrier rings?
they're gonna take care you back like
you dig in D, you got more important.
She didn't De Groen Fuckin Hall Tourism,
story about their a metal too
and who had come back to find.
His Marines finish up
for a whole form because
is too busy,
taking care of. Damn you know to worry about protecting it.
Came back to me in a flash and to me
the imagery of them presented him with that played chow
he was symbolic in to me,
What I saw
wasn't dim, given him up like a child whose then put in
on his head and seen your fucking head.
And it was in their moment- and I've been worrying since
Eighty seven was
until that very moment, that I realize it
The only one who can
designate you as leader is you're. Talking rent
your peers can say you got leadership, qualities in Europe's senior.
Can see the same thing, but the only one who gives you that title,
we need you earn it from me.
Can I was sitting there and I thought Jesus Christ.
What I ever do
files to bring like that
I should take a photo
and was fucking tired-
and I didn't do it-
given the last photo can affect many
these guys taught me a lot. I was
Probably the most important lesson I ever got his leader
We see these two crown him.
A lot of that in part to us.
Carbon HOLLAND, I kept
when two women trying to help him with the old
the order. Does the first deployment
that's all
So a trio how to do,
That's all we did was we demand
overlays, we troll orders, and so we can
We knew it. We had it down and we were kept coming in.
Hey
help me he wants to helping. You want us to do something
you need to get done with doing their sole. Do those no don't touch it?
This is gonna, be all ruddy there
Let us know if you need us,
after that, that was when I was like middle School get Joe what
because he knew that the way we're going it's. What up that I've got to run point that day, Sir
Have me: do the patrol early
here. He had them. Brown mapped out, but he made me: do the overlay
the timing is asking questions about where we going. What
during next
in their member mask me. Forget here what else the
Tina and stuff
and I had to turn out into the sea or sea with all the radio frequencies.
He knew I wanted to know.
That's how I was I was wanted to know. I don't want to know my king there's job. I wanted to know my squire leaders. Job like I want to you know,
I'm going to pull me out like I felt rewarded
to get to do this.
Because you trust me to do it
as we do to me?
yeah. No fur was talking earlier about. You know
make sure that people understand why they don't want to do it and how
important. That is no
out your for me. That's the key of decentralized commanders makers would ever knows why they're doing what they're doing. But the other thing that happens is when black, what you're saying when you give people the opportunity to come up with part of the plan? It's like it's
the them
It makes them
they have ownership of because they made it up
They made it up
That's that's exactly what you're talkin about
and those the kind of things that
both the kind of things that make you know. Young young troopers crowd their leader, not because their leaders, bark and Adam, but because there,
yours go hey
I'll do this I'll take care of this I'll handle it? You guys get some rest! You guys kick yourselves and at the same time
here's this piece, the mission you come up with a plan for this. You make sure we know we're doing and
I had heard a guy, the podcast you may Mugihewa
retired as General Journal Move Yom about
you're him. He made the statement that I've,
under played over and over again, but
Him he's like: oh, you know what leadership boils down to. Is that you care about your map?
you care about your men, because if you care about your men and your men, though that then it goes
to what you said trot. If you
Carry your man that your men are going to take care of you.
And the many you see a leader, that's walkin around bark and orders.
Think of themselves and by the way anybody that thinks they do. They
quite a little good agenda for themselves and their team isn't going to see it you're wrong all day long today and twice on Sunday. That's what's going to happen, but that leader, that's going hey, I'm doing this for the good of the team
the one that will get the crowd
of leadership,
one story that sticks up to me
and it was when we first got his own.
Where limo is setting a base.
There wasn't one-
When we weren't doing a patrol, we are setting a Pascoe barriers along film, I hand
and you get a working party together go to do it
Well, who does working parties?
did you nearest you
But there is one day
almost everyone teens out there doing it. Most leaders are working on trawlers organ things together and outcomes. Dunham.
Comes joins us starting point?
were by hand
were filling. It has only squad leader and opportune that out their openness, Billy's Escobar's this time are united.
From the thinking. I he's, because this
its miserable,
like an awful
something like using
yeah you're doing it, but
Munich has we're doing you now in agony,
countless examples of that
The exact reason why everybody in his squad would
and through a war for him every day. Now
He took care you he took out. The junior is really well. He took his assigning the euro. Establishing our theme is like
end of the line just to let me know to come talk to him. You know I remember him down but, like you know if,
stout can talk to me. I want to know about it.
It's just always available and
it made you want to. Please him. You know,
I got. I remembered in Calicut I want this guy to look at me like being pressed by, don't want him to like me to know, but
nah, I don't like not as a friend I wanted to look me back. That's fucking, green. I want my Marines
and so you trying to live up to this bar. He sets and it made us all better,
taken us back now Eve Eve, you ve, executed the plan and now
where we're out in the field where we're in
so you in the the police station are you in the world?
treatment facility was the difference between the two. What what's
What's going on right now he s so the
commanding officer had finished his business with the police chief. So
he was hidden turf receiver and we want
at the back of the police station right across an alley and into the water treatment plant
It was unoccupied time wasn't in use, but it had been actually was occupied by Morocco family who were squatting in one of the buildings, the liquor
headquarters building of the true plan,
so the thing had been built, it has never been used, and so
for was doing his sang get nice on the perimeter
the entire structure- and I
gone up to the roof of this headquarters, building
since it was a three story, so
That's cuz, you were on the roof and I remember it all. He is done on the radio operator. Jason Sanders was paint had good essay and he was listening to what was going on and who save it. With some of the other stuff than shatter
just like a good young rain. Does you brought it to a squad leader, squatter Dunham came and brought to me on my Roger, let's
smoke as he is gonna have a say what's going on and then that's how that started,
By the way
I kind of skipped right into Colonel Lopez's convoy,
that had left that
station and was headed out.
But there was a whole other scenario unfolding where
had casualties and who Sabre casualties that a sniper of wants position. Gettin head, he had wounded Marines, but it was so all that
Chaos is breaking out,
in the morning
kind of all morning right
So we know this is a we're going into it on Europe day in this area.
Yeah the end limits we have been in contact. I think fur since sometimes doing zero
tell her that morning,
I didn't have a visa math, but
as I was stand on top of it, that building Lookin West,
just check out the general lay out from that vantage point
we heard explosions to the west
First thought with you.
Explosions was that
the company was gettin mortar again
good evening Mordred every day for about two weeks.
Straight twenty to twenty two districts: king.
But they had yet been able to get the jump on these guys.
So I thought shit you: where were
actually in zone right now.
Lemme get, and we may be in a position to energy supplies.
Sit down came running up. The ladder will still
through these explosions,
thirty minutes. What do you think?
because I think limbs getting hit
I let's go, get those motherfuckers,
so we call his boys and told him they were
several not push now and
vehicles had been satellite into the time on certain
yes, outside of our position,
so we started moving out on too.
Rob diamond there was a
sorry that would lead us West into Lena companies. Part and
we started running because,
There was a sense of urgency in a win win. A fuckin
sister units gettin head you you want. If I can help,
so we started running down diamond in and Sanders
on the run, got hold of the gun trucks and got him too.
Link up it s on time, so
before long, the
Truck showed up, we mounted up and in
started racial west and
within moments.
Fiji,
flew over one of their high backs. Read over COBRA halls head
and we knew he had arrived. The ambush side
by the time we got in the trucks we heard on the
the radio net that he wasn't. Lemme get Mordred document,
control. Just got hit.
Outside the archers, which is the
almost the eastern periphery of who save. So it was a direction we were headed and then
we were there before and they got hit hard data multiple casualties and had pushed
they pushed through the kills or no right. Yeah
No, but now they had casualties and
and that's what you got your drove through the exact same kills them
we rolled into it as
in my assessment that the
ambushes element. Was
ass in the
the ambush, sounded
I'm sure they weren't expecting us to arrive at oh shit enough to fresh meat is fuckin. Lodging refugee bonus yeah,
so we start taking fire immediately and
thing like reductive, utterly get I'll fuckin truck prank.
Sir, we gotta
The trucks and got up against
a wall
the trucks leave now.
Stayed their initial acre and
we all got up against the wall to give us some cover from the fire it was actually than coming over
from behind that wall in down the hall
RO
buildings are towards the arches and slip
Dunham. I
against the wall on right now,
storm and
to say when you get there
will you do. It was declared these fuckers out on foot rang and
I'd I'd seen the battle drill before, on my first day in zone before the company even got there when we're doing a orientation patrol with first and third, we got hit
the age Kay.
Damn near the same spot and
The guys we're on that patrol with were the soft propelled battery.
That was organic to first third, and
were the only guys I think in that their debt
only guys in that squadron who were employed,
movies, so there
the closest thing to grunts, as for
The third had. Indeed, they knew their shit
they called an immediate audible when we got shit
with an ideal and
started taken fire and those
drivers immediately push south to the
elevated train tracks on the south side of age? Kid was delineating the southern edge that village and they
they pushed out to coordinate and did in dismount
and extra Sweden in the process,
they killed one move and
captured two more so
My first thought was pacing Gordon's on the south sweep
or to south
and Dunham said I am taken Hampton you go with carbon Roger there,
get those drugs to the south, and let's do it again
So then Hampton Fergus
and Dunham and milk
second
thirty Reynolds.
Somebody. Otto
that alone and start a push in south and
myself with carbon, how we wound up
sweeping
where did the west initially, as these guys were killed
to the south. Now there's a book
this book called the gift of valor and its
Book written by
guy named Michael Philips,
who's. The Wall Street Journal reporter
which may Reykjavik all well? What is that
Well, he actually did
were tours in Iraq and
He was with the three seven a bunch and
He did a great job of.
Interviewing
so many people too kind
capture
This story, the book is called the gift of valor, and
spells out this section well
Good pretty comprehensively,
and I'm sure you guys, lifestyle
add, but.
I'm actually to go on
and read a little bit of this book? Picking up from from that?
Situation
So here we go at about one thousand. Two hundred and twenty p dot m to Marines reach the Next Cross Street, where the alleyway hit a t junction on the
before the junction was an unfinished single story, home made of a tan stone and port concrete, with met with red metal doors and window grates
on the right. The alleyway wide doubted the courtyard of a concrete cinder block house, a rusty twisted car chassis like forlornly amid the trash
straight ahead over some buildings and about a block away. They could see the top of the water treatment plant.
The dirt lane that crossed in front of him was deeply rooted
to the right was bordered
on the north side by a tumble down stone wall and a cup
dozen yards further to the west, a straight ahead. Cinder block wall
stopped in the lane were eight vehicles pointing from east pointing east toward the approaching Marines.
From the corner. Donovan his men could see a small boss, a Van
White Toyota Land Cruiser a second suv, a red tractor, a black Bmw,
Truck frozen in the middle of an attempt
turn around in a narrow lane and find
a white Sudan with all four doors open.
The point. Man Miller had just gone
the tea junction, when staff sergeant Ferguson a few dozen yards back, no
the lineups lineup of vehicles what's goin on, he asked corporal bottom. What are you doing?
Dont want to keep moving, but Ferguson
called the White ass. She read it sergeant Reynolds had seen high tailing across jade a few minutes earlier and thought
the cars will worth a quick look.
No Ferguson told Dunham
we're gonna certainties calls cars. So there you go
guess I didn't really cover that part of the story, but their been
vehicles that were p idea leave in the amber site. It's if that's what you're saying it positively identifying or least suspected vehicles beds,
if the member state concerned, as you said, the ambush
he's probably over when you guys showed up release, they were trying to wrap it up. You guys showed up, they got a little bonus secondary, but most likely there I'll leave and that's what you guys are thinking had now
and now you see these views,
lined up there looking sketchy yeah. That was the assumption that they would try to leave the area and I fear they got caught up in the air
the log jam right there, and I knew because we
control that area before Would. Lemme companies were familiar with that area. New is the other water treatment plant and then on the opposite. Side of that would just be the railroad train tracks. So I thought that
our best course of action at the time, and I remember when I told him that he was look.
At me and then also looking down the rows of car. So something was going on down there. That has attention as well, then he's here,
I'd be lying down that way
Remember you yelled at for hasty, buccal searches, cuz. We were simply pushing to contact, so it was like a we need, a certain yeah. It was just we're on the move
Hampton worked alongside the small bus appeared through the windows. He saw me. Women and children decided not to bother searching the interior, the drive and second vehicle, the ten, the Van
and was middle aged with a younger man. Next to him
search vehicle Hampton
had never phrase you picked up from the Marines Pocket language carts
he saw no weapons in the driver's lapse. We open the sliding door in the advance right side, the harvest.
Is contained, nothing suspect.
I always felt like when I spoke arabic to Iraq that it
Didn't really seem right, coming out of my big
head.
They never understood a thing. I was saying I'm out
I wasn't sure if they were just shocked that I said something do best the lead. I gathered there just the way. I always got doing this guy just tell me, he's good search, my car
did he just tell me the dog is brown and
I don't understand why I need time my shoes. Nobody here, has laces just
so quick vehicle search, that's what you guys are doing
pretty straightforward.
After the book. Corporal Dunham and Pfc Miller moved quickly up the street until they came to the elderly White land cruiser, which awesome
fifty yards from the intersection where the alleyway met the road.
Were edged along the passenger side
and saw the muzzle and would front grip of an acre forty, seven rifle poking out from under the format. You look
up in time to see the driver, a young, iraqi man in a black tracks, you open the door.
In large at Dunham people, love
the people a lot of people don't know about the Mujahideen uniform of the tracks.
The drugs. You too, you see the guy the track suit.
Given these things you can't when you explain on the people, it's almost like a bad movie right, like you see there a k, forty seven hidden under a format
like you, guys, we're gonna get away with this. Why he had multiple like it was a small,
ash. Before five guns I can do there's an r b g in
his eyes passing by appearing in the windows note passenger window and I hit the
and went on vehicle- and I saw them in its like
instantaneous, as I'm looking up to say something. They start fighting.
And I didn't have a chance like same thing. I just reacted to go round and assist.
How many guys we're in the vehicle? One? Oh, so, is just one guy the vehicle. So as your come up on the passenger side, you look in one window. You see it next thing, you know you look up the driver in it
actually gets out,
and he's on Donald like it. It's too. Yes, yes,
There have been more guys in that way, but they amassed by that
I'm Dunham got too. It is that in the vote
in the far vehicles it well. That was true.
Turn around. They use on ass round the other
go behind the foreigner everybody tv man,
I guess they have the same fashion,
being in vehicles as we do. Let's get out of this is about to become a bullets. Bunch battle in his vehicle are stuck.
There were all stuck in
in hindsight. Is there
There were
Maybe a couple of those
Eggs were
So what's insurgents and all the rest or just fucking innocent people who are trying to get
through the age k around this site
the ambush
been unleashed upon diamond rise so that they are going to try and drive through that thing, so they were just trying to bounce around through the village to
carry on with their life's business, and you know
stuck in the middle of whom were a couple of weeks with insurgents and and and
a correction on on my
eggs
terminology. In the book
What we discovered later with by this,
Eighteen, three days later, the battle for saving kicked offers its scabbard, an iraqi Lucifer
via them
they're dead, dead infiltrated through Syria,
by the hundreds, the kicker
An offensive across the entire province
there. Are there to fight
so continuing on the Iraqi, which again, is you just point out, pointed out this guy's a foreign fighter from any number of cop countries,
wrapped his left arm around the back of dunams neck cocked, his right arm to punch the corporal in the face Dunham caught the man's fist to block the swing
The two stumbled
Toward the land cruiser
pulled his right me up and drove to the iraqi stomach, the Iraqi doubled over from the blow
and the men, fell to the ground in an angry embrace
Miller's brother, a shit
Deputy California had brought had bought Kelly, telescoping police Baton and shifted to Iraq.
I didn't really think he'd ever needed
but I like the idea of having one and kept it in that fosters zip tied to his flat fist up until that point, Millard used it mostly to fend off stray dogs but ass. He ran around the front of the suv toward Dunham and the iraqi
again foreign fighter. He pulled,
the thought out and snap
down to reside to extend it
two to four weeks
Miller, saw the iraqi lying on his back his head.
Toward the rear of the land cruiser Dunham was face down. On top of him, torso wrote it
slightly counterclockwise.
Miller, planters left me in the Iraqis, ribs bracing
left hand on dunams back. He slammed
but of the Baton ass, hard ass. He could into the Iraqis forehead,
the blow so sharp that the metal Baton collapse
back into itself,
Miller was amazed. The man was still conscious, much less still, fighting.
He drove the baton to the Iraqis. Forehead again then jabbered into the left side of the man's neck, a blue
joke here,
and told, would Pitshaft circulation to the brain.
Carotid artery
We have Corporal Hampton,
saw the melee uncharged around the Van and up the street
his adrenaline surgeon.
All they could hear was allowed pounding of his own pulses, search for an open shot on the Iraqi to hit shoot him in the head. He said to himself: he aimed his rifle butt, worried that any shot might go through the Iraqi and hit Miller hell. He thought
Our model for Marines
ought to poke the rifle barrels under the eyes, their enemies to make sure they're dead,
Only the dead or comatose could resist flinching when
card in the eye with a long piece of metal. The model
fund could also be delivered to the chest to get someone aggressive to back off without resorting to Debbie Force,
plan to fund the Iraqi in the Temple
knocked about fine. If you killed him, that was fine with bill. Two had been picked up
spot on the wriggling Iraqis Temple and pulled his rifle back to get some force behind it. The rainbow was shaking her head. I was asking was good
that thing through his head, no spread through his eye. I wasn't gonna put this temple, I was gonna hear
You can go right here and push that rifle back out. This way.
Yet it Harry those the
grappling situation,
well that's going down and you have a weapon and your beer. What are you guys grapple with amid surgeon back and that's it
that's a tough shot to take
causes not wake up.
A movie where the
guys whole hostage. Still
because this is a fine that's going on in you know anything could happen at any point,
and the other thing is, I mean,
you guys are
You gotta think I'd be thinking to myself. Ok, will this guy didn't shoot us? He didn't he didn't
blow. It blows up so
how do we know these guys are not that's a cordon
the question that can be going through your head,
people's it back and say are just kill, yeah, that's something that
is, is a decision that getting made, but when you your first instinct in that situation, you got your body on top of a: u dont off the guy's armed theirs.
A lot of things going on to just start upload your weapon.
And that's why I'm thinking both the guys are thinking.
Well, you're kind of got the thought, your mind I'll shoot this guy and you guys
but both you are going non lethal at this point in time.
Are just train, like my thought. Process was, if I hit him hard enough, I'm not going
hit him with a metal baton
I am the first time in history
struggling. So
I came in for the second one and at that time you could see that I split his forehead wide Open
fractured his skull,
and you're still fighting
and so I like, like
I need to do something different and I always remembering who kept the talk about the blood choke side to start.
What pressure process crowded.
With all my weight and then
and I can build adjusts when I started
by the church. That's when do I come up and that's when the rest happened.
Did you know up again,
for young
People in any
employment like this, whether your copper, your soldier, your marine, whatever its situation here in what is one thing that we learned there's this idea that when you hit some one-
if you hit him hard enough, they're gonna get knocked out and
We learned this over and over again that is not true,
and there's a chance. When you hit someone, you can knock em out, there's chance that they don't get knocked out. One of my assistant to commander
entered the room. We were taken down a building.
And there was a.
Combative,
a combative insurgent in there, and
You know we had learned Muzzle strike model strike, no buzz instruct the face. It'll it'll knock em out for sure it may kill em, so you gotta be a little bit careful whatever
I assisted between commander.
Did the hardest muzzle strike. I think a person could he. We took a running start without eight yards in full.
We call back his weapon and drove it into this guy's head
in. It deflected a little bit like around the brow and carved out
big giant chunk of his scalp, no factor
guys bleed might stop pig, but he kept fight.
So all that's going on
and here we go back about book, while Dunham Miller and Hampton wrestled with the Iraqi
Sergeant Reynolds Sniper told Sanders to provide cover in case the Iraqi had friends route.
So centres is more than a desert, a dozen yards away from the fight when he heard Dunham, yellow warning, no, no, no watch his hand
Hampton heard nothing except the beating of his own heart, but he kept
caught a fleeting glimpse of dunams helmet on the ground. Next to the Iraqi.
Done was on his stomach with his arms outstretched in front of them.
And wrapped around the sides of his helmet,
as if you were holding it down on top of something.
Then came the explosion,
Bill Hampton saw Flash of light, but it the explosion didn't sound very loud to him.
His vision blurred, and he knew that something had happened to him
He just didn't know what.
His first thought was whether his teeth had been hit. He read
Tom along them and was relieved to find them all in place, but his face leg and arm leaked red.
The concussion had broken his nose. One.
Tiny metal, fragment hate him under the nostrils and another embedded itself and its top live,
Piece of shrapnel about the size of a pen tip had it hit him in the right knuckle. Several shards of metal hit him in the left arm and left leg
One piece hit a bone is forearmed, broke up and open and each wide whole acid exited
when other travelled up his arm and cut away cut its way out. The middle of his elbow, leaving exit shaped tier tear,
The enlarged is his bicep.
You remember that slowing is breathing would saw the bleeding and he tried to do so. He staggered gets the sender block wall and back toward the intersection he couldn't left, lift his rifle with his left arm. We held him is right.
Trigger Garda, pistol, grip, try
to keep an eye out for enemy fighters.
A boom in a flash.
Kelly Miller saw the explosion and its aftermath and a series of still frames.
For she thought Dunham tipping over his radio headset still on by his helmet gone.
They never saw the skies. He fell over backwards onto the rocket loud lodger slung from his shoulder here.
Steady. Ring like the sound of a hospital heart monitor, makes with
patient flatly
aids
Miller's, face, hurt and his and felt hot, as if he had a bad somber. He did
blood in his mouth,
and had a vague feeling use
being shot at.
His left arm hurt. Next he tried to grab his rifle with his left hand, but nothing happened. He wondered why his arm was working. He looked down to see blood streaming off the fingertips.
One piece of hot metal of hit Miller's upper lip travelled inside his right, cheek, shattered them older before coming to arrest inside of his back cheek other fragments peppered around the area around his eyes left cheek and forehead. But blast blew out his left ear drum
One piece a grenade shrapnel went clean through his right. Try set
Side, decide imports
third, the breakaway will artery
but for some reason it didn't hurt his babies upper left arm, which had been hit by five or six big chunks and metal and spread
with pebble size, fragments.
The explosion left Sanders the radio operator temporarily death. He saw them
Dunham Miller at Hampton Hampton, not bad.
By the blast and thought.
They're, all fucking dead, so
with that. The surgeon.
That was later actually gets up and runs
and Sanders the radio
operator. Then
our modes on him and gives him.
What is interesting in the book it was like Sanders didn't really. Undersea was looking for someone else as well. He thought
there's no way to whoever was their survived. So
he was looking for
someone else another answered.
And that leaves you Fergie kind of tat.
What an organised? The Kazakh this point right voyages,
from a seven man team to three rooms, get movies or of all combat in an ineffective somewhere.
The thing was trying to set up a charity collection point around the back. The fence line right there,
these means tended to. Could you guys,
in the book. It says I felt the actor its accurate, but I could feel the bolts passing
and I was incredibly disorient, never lost consciousness.
Looking down on the ground and I can see the bullet striking, and so I,
got my rife with my right arm. It still worked and I actually knelt behind
I know at the front of the white man,
and try to hold security, one handed and ears it
like an eternity. Only tell you I, but it body seconds pass in my adrenaline started away, and then
I actually go back. I can't
back down the line of cars way. We came because
every passing. Second, my
level started skyrocket and I actually puke right there
at the White Land Rover, and then I mean
back behind the red vehicle,
again imagine sanders came up
He was passing by announcing actually so much pain.
I asked him to knock me help because I just wanted to stop like ours. Is
I couldn't stop puking has the pain was so had.
And then I think I saw
for moving up,
Ask me as well:
then Sergeant Reynolds, guided me
to wear their carriage collection point wasn't just put me up.
The wall. The pilot
was at this point in the
Hampton join me
the thing that occurred about most- and
was the same way I give to fox about myself
I never asked how I was an arrest. How bill was because I can see him
Where's Dunham has done now
the only thing I could care about cars like I'm.
I could tell I answered talking. I can think I'm fine enough
I could see bill. He was talking looking at me. He was gonna, be ok but both
when I would just wanted to know where was Dunham
how is Dunham those like a theme? Almost
because nobody knew
how'd you get did so, did you go? Did you bring down a back over the casually collection point for what it was? Actually Jason Sanders was movement him. They were fired upon and
he'd gotten them back.
The wall, but
I cannot stress enough, because I was at the just passed the first headlight of the vehicle when unexploded in eyes absolutely amazing. I thought I had three wound
Ok, I'm on my hand, because,
the amount of concussion
I felt, and I have the vehicle between me and just a reverberating off the walls in that Montes even says in the book I gave you could feel how halo your chest. Cavity is and
Take me back a few feet to know how to get my orientation. So the fact that these guys, any of them were able to get out there like yeah
in the was the wall behind me. I, like I, put a nice little body in print,
into it they went into its heart and I was on one knee hunched over, so it was
Powerful? Yet it would make sense when you are talking, look at shot at. Obviously, if you're those insurgents that bailed out of those first, the Sudan and then the other guys jumped out of the crew, the Lange cruiser they
What's about to happen and they're going to set up on you as soon as they get a good distance they're going to set up position, so they can start shooting at you once this suicide guy gets, does
it is part of mission, there can become an ad is wondered,
describable everything's because-
My hearing from the
Version was so fucked I couldn't
here being shot at, I actually had. No, I was been shot through. Hearing
The only reason I knew I need couldn't be theirs cause. I can feel it
I saw the dirt strike marks.
Save your bill. I didn't
anybody shooting and just baffles me because I stood up and I walked back.
Towards desert in Ferguson, and
Let me now that I
through bullets,
and I have no clue I could hear anything was ringing. My
I mean I got slap in the face of filling a slap in the face with a shovel I mean
whoever did it got a full swing with that shall be
That's I can't explain it any other way. It was just you got hit with a shovel in the face
they were almost like walking, zombies, odyssey, obviously cousin concussion that and then he uses nose like if I can hurts
All right- and I could tell the way they were holding their arms and which alarms were hurt and which alarms were damaged, and then I can see some other visual wounds aren't going to be fine when we get back there,
what about your break. Your artery, be in here. How that is,
it's like a waterfall going down my arm. He puts his arms up. Those are far
all three of my nerves, my left arm, damaged our high bicep
I had no function from my shoulder down. I can't move my fingers contended I'll, send no feeling because
Are you in shared.
Then I'm gettin body aid and
Unlike weary,
like his left arm- is a problem. I know my my right arm hurts and the like,
No, no you're left arm, and also I just look in my kemys bread and, unlike
it's like somebody took a water bottle, is just wanted on your shoulder, initially
flooding down, they watched it just what
This can be seen
since then,
I actually got him both break your cause. I lifted my right arm up after he cut my sleeve off and it was-
scooter.
So I hadn't did either getting tourniquets on both arms.
Animal certain Reynolds was doing. That was, was rent,
around thirty eight, any ok
self, aided my leg and then I think
help me with my arm, but I
so faded my leg, what he was doing out with
Miller and then and then I had to be adequately.
Not as serious as respite things. You worry about after you get hurt, don't make any sense,
about took off her watches, because we know one cut it off. I was pissed off
as I have showered in thirty days and I shouted enforcers wearing clean kemys
They have my blouse off the rift it now. The buttons went off from my first time. Mother
I looked a bill and I told her mother. I got my boots off. I was pissed about my boots. Getting caught authors leases cut the laces pull it off. I want those back here
The bill. Can I turn my mom was gonna, be pissed
I got to go probably right about that, but it's amazing what the mine can do. I'm sitting there with our breakers damage to tourniquets on I've lost.
It's a blood.
And I'm worried about most trivial. Things goes again on the twenty one year old, who think some pretty even visible, but it fuck in her.
Right now
How long it get the Gaza conferred going
they were there in a matter of minutes. We used are fixed,
out our Jason centres. Once again, he was also because he had that all set up moving both. He asked me to what clarification I said: one urgent surgical to routine and he took care of all that
and a lot of is the way that the skipper broke down our company because
really is groundbreaking, because I always go
comparable.
That no matter what the mission I have fifty ones with me back a breach. Demo, ores,
Before anything, my mortar man, there were call for fire specialists and they are also met a vat guys and then thirty once when we rightly my company.
In Cuba, one were the only ones we didn't. He no help from lemme wicked man, whatever position more nineteen, two forty golf. So the way
We did that, though it was awesome,
that paid off dividends, you're having Jason Sanders, and I didn't tell him anything except for the car
education. How would you vehicles came in to get you?
It was our. What was it you
herself wrote tat way.
The way to start was their Mcmanus himself,
reform mix for vehicles over wash position. We kept them
Any time we had a union zone. Anyone what we're out of
Amazon
first two months we had a cat section.
In zone around the clock. As as
a ready cure wrath.
In case the battalion in
in the meantime came contact. There is always someone in zone could fucking respond, wonder
For me, it was an intel cat, wait Kim and picked up Dunham
that actually realized how bad I was hurt. A guide,
Buddy Aden at the turn
dont burden stout
Gunnar for cat like him, and I went to the school router at some time and his vehicle
parked read by the warning could see me
I looked at him and he looked at me like. I know, you're going to be fine, we're going to get you out of here and you
you're trying to conference, but it was look on his face when you
Can I mean that that that was when I was like.
It's something like I mustn't
B is ok. I think I am right now
the thing. No one wants to hear. You're gonna be ok having to get you out of here
that was the thing to I was worried about it cuz my facial expressions. I could tell, and I told sergeant Reynolds Hey, look cuz, I was worried. We might have to turn the kid that or something cuz I knew he was. He was bleeding that and but
The weird thing I remember is because everything was gone off in and who say, but we just had the incident, we know what was going on
Time saw my like I
guys up on. My eight would wonder how much scary wouldn't have for you. There has been a marked street
in the middle of this stuff. So you you have to be prepared to fight
you, don't you get to the to the Elsie
like Roger that stuff
weapons ready in lower them up
we can send anybody with them as we have our ground. Ellen exposes the cat guys and in reality
I'm back train them here we want. We want guys, we wonder luxury, we every ass market. We are we asking like what were you going back in the leg rock train in both Billinger Khazars?
ideas all the time on training as a great, only about fucking, twice
yes, it wasn't just can't wait.
Aspired was also are high.
Export any fontecchio or company gunny gunning. He
he heard a call.
When Sanders contact, TAT, wise use on the path to net, so
he passed down there as well, and it was
our own high backs. Did they
the casualties up into to get him back to the Kazi back he'll, see in her saver
it's what did you forget? You stayed out there. Yes, with with
with what you Sanders. There's three you know
And I asked Ass Army ATO and what we did as our way to the cat guys came and we move forward.
And we just went around that position to clear those two houses and the weakest Mamma and enemy repealed abuse from her and
carbon out with cargo Holstein right. You we were on the
western edge,
of the age Kay
at an old, abandoned mosque overlooking the Wadi and who saved the west. When we heard the gunfire
an error, I never heard of a fuckin grenade, I never heard a blast
all I heard with small arms fuck and
there is a common there with me and SAM. Our
arab hating atheist.
The linguists
though we inherited from first
the third thank God, and
so get those too.
And yielded
Carbo home. We ran
towards the sound of the fire
there was a black said Dan was backing.
Out of that
that road then
line of vehicles was stacked on.
There is a vehicle training,
get the fuck out of doors in reverse. We stop did SAM was there. We started search in the trunk,
and he they're gonna, fuckin wedding.
So let us go so we let him go
and I looked down the road and
certain Reynolds sniper the wit, prolong
I could see him next to a line of vehicles in he yelled at me,
to cut off a white piglet,
truck that was headed, south, so
All I can grasp the situation at the time was that
made contact with insurgents and
There is at least one vehicle trying to get
out there that we need to cut off. So I
add Carbo Hall, who is he would have gotten to where we were destined amber by that time?
pushed all the way south to the train tracks as
we are pushing south we saw
can't why
Ray seen from
the direction of
stand and whose
but just to cry
the worry they were flying
full lying east beneath the train tracks.
We didn't we
I had no cars and fucking radio concise. I sought at no clue
but that was your boys being chasm that threat
so we got into the water treatment plant and in
colonel had no comes on his interest.
Radio waves
You just scared and.
For radio. Now we
still using caviars, yet pure
the time so
We needed elevation to be able to give
coms with Dunham. So
we got to the water to plan, which was the tallest had,
building around and carbon scrambled up to one of the roofs
Got a hold of sanders and
in one of them rings.
Colonel actually got a views on so tell from history
spect of how we can get to where they were so he came back down and then we arrived on foot at the sight
when we got to the site-
fur were standing there in the mill.
The road
In front of them,
or maybe behind them wide toward land Cruiser Honor
forget he had. It was widely ex goggles on
came up to me and he said: hey, Sir,
Miller in Hampton her gonna be all right.
And there's something about his tone. There
implied that Miller Hampton weren't these objects
Fuckin statement.
Looking in the eyes,
the fucker you San
this is done.
So I do largely a popular saying and said we,
clear these fuckin houses. So
I stood post on top of one of their buildings.
While these guys throughout the rest of the house.
The vicinity and
We told in some e p that right,
I support time date they
and got back to the site.
For it was explained to me what had happened
and always looking around they had taken the war.
Turns out of that
cruiser and stack them up again
the wall.
As I recall there were
a case couple
Geez
mark, one
Add bomb british made grenades.
Like a pineapple grandly from over and
I saw some nurse. I saw what looked like a large chunk of kevlar.
And already knew that the mood was scrubbing
knights of contact win
can't read, lost that marine
to raise PVC Smith, and I can't remember,
the ceremony was killed in that real, remind striking the age k, justs Fuckin,
Maybe twenty metres from where the Santer back on Saint Patrick,
there sometime around them, then
two days after the incident
steps are at the petition certain for cat. Why was
patrol upon diamond and they rolled up couple in a black Bmw with a pistol
GPS
and
I recall them. They were grids
saved to that GPS. There they were inside the Fuckin Battalion Patrol base
at the translation, unwelcome and
one of those
one of those guys had Pfc Smith S court
they had scrub decided that my strike and
My first thought was that was probably a piece
Kepler from the inside
one of those humvee doors.
A form visa. Those doors are armoured,
Kevlar on the inside
My first I was
where it came from.
But I'm looking at it.
I see Scott familiar shape to it, and that's that,
scoop
on the side of their the cap
where it drops down from the visor to cover the ear.
And I realized I was home
in place of a killer helmet,
and I started looking around a night.
I notice that there were tiny
scraps of Kevlar cover,
Fuckin road.
From Wall the Wall
probably governor a damn,
at least two hundred from our group,
Square foot area, there is kevlar scraps everywhere, and
a call over the furnace words dunams helmet and
for cultures, guys and grabbed.
We went to wear ones, gear, restore stage at the c c, p behind that wall and
there is no helmet, they couldn't they found
the rest of his gear, but no helmet and
realising that was. His helmet was all over that fuckin road and I
looked a furnace enlist the ship picked up
the last thing I wanted those
fuckers to see the goddamn move was that they can get us.
Formed no sign of weakness that they could
John too.
And one of the Marines had a couple of tea gown
the plot bags and his backpack
in over for waterproofing fucking.
Whatever Gary, was carried
and we filled to two gallons of block backs with pieces of dunams homer,
four gallons of fucking Kevlar, replaced off that road
so my assumption was there.
Based on the injuries it for told me about Dunham had sustained was that he was probably
facing the grenade
and I just assumed the blast- had ripped the helmet off his head and blown apart
and it wasn't until
two days later
when I was sitting down with sanders in the fourth too
space therewith built diviners within that warehouse,
To give at least petitions thereon fuckin space,
and I was sitting with Sanders eyes caught and
Four were there and
we are talking about Dunham, and
Sanders
me a story about it,
can conversation that occurred
two weeks earlier. When
when kill for was still attached to lemme during a
between patrols, error,
rested in their damn.
Space, doing dart, tournaments, dart tournament, the White Border man and Jason
always at the Dark board practising or just school and people.
This conversation comes up
The type of conversation
Combat rains have combatants period Cute
You take that that medal of Honor citation book thicker than a friggin bible,
in my estimation that- and I used to read from that thing: old timers instructor, the basic school
Can we have citations in that? Damn book are from
rains and soldiers, current funding rang for some racing about
an outlet for take it from here. He was there for the conversation
What was actually the conversation? Were you there with them when the tax I member Yemen, soon Commander,
you all turn more looked at me and you. What do you think captain
Jason said, you'd covered up. I set a kick back or pick it up to throw a back
the topic is what you do with a live grenade. What you do and rules to your feet? What do you do you run?
I mean I just assume: kick it
get away from Us
I'm at a theory that, if you put the helmet on it, and then you shoot your body on top of it with the US happy plate, the helmet and the flag. But, unlike concur,
from it is still gonna rocky world. That's what they were talking about
and with TAT Robinson says beside it doesn't really matter, because the grades only got a three five seven fuse,
time covered with the help of way
I'm done much. Aramis has really
we back in a second and he goes back
was gear and shows back up with this phenomenon?
looks ITALY, TAT, Missus tie me some
War breaks out his g shocking says, go and within it
a second element tilted his head forward. Chintz trap
after June, in its swept the helmet on the deck
something he'd just thought about it.
Where's that shit here,
he was so comprehensive.
In his
concern for his marines. He was
axing what to do with a fucking lot. Grenade
and my fucking job drop when
Andrews told me restored and I,
got right. The fuck up and
right into the damp outshines cp
lieutenant. Colonel Lopez was in his office.
Knocked on the hatch- and I said Sir
I just found out what happened to Dunham.
And I explained to him what I just work from Sanders
looking uses, ok get written up. So I'm back to the fuckin companies
is an agreeable to dinner,
the two men for olive fuck.
For months
the second lieutenant
being told by his company commander too,
after a medal of Honor citation
any lieutenants, whoever ever get thrust into their situation
and all this is unfolding well
Kelly Bill- you gotta get gas backed our country
by the Norwegian we went to
anaconda. First, her I did. I went there
back to our time
hey station are therefore only be covered
this time the station, and then I went
From there I went to Al Assad.
When I and transported in there
the helicopter, the aid
We were legal status.
Miller's on top I'm on the bottom.
Take us less good boy did what Miller
still. A boom no miller
I needed. Clarification
as again
now ass. You say it's two days after this
that you're getting you start you pieces together. You know it's like you had one, and now you get
the other one and I got one of what he calls to you got balls
start, the right up, the citation for forwarding up the chain of command
but but one thing it a lot of people
specially civilians. Don't understand is that.
They're, still missions to do
still work to be done and it
the enemy did do any of you get to win
they don't back off. In fact, oftentimes they step up, which means
we get no rest
from a leadership perspective. You guys now, looking at your troops, going ok
here's what happened.
We are about to do
What? What did that look like from your all's perspective?
It was a really
each time we knew.
That don't had been Kazi, backed and eventually it made it back. Stateside Tibet Thurston we're in them for the fucking middle of it,
and on the seventeenth,
hell broke loose
and that was data gathering
for his range from weapons between
Lemme company were killed and that that you adopt a battle for the same
and that lasted for
three freakin days
came out of their own there. On the nineteenth and
so that there was a conventional attack.
Defence force.
By sweeping clear within them,
tired town of you, but then
back to patrolling again right back to it.
There is no no break in
There was
the last thing
that I was gonna take was a break.
Because now now we know what the fuck and score is we ve, just we ve lost.
A marine on a knife edge
massive ambush
we ve lost Dunham there
the baton is taken, casualties remedy is blowing
My good friend Chris Bronzy
takes fifteenth me actually, on the thirteenth
coming commander to four
is in there in their fight for the fucking life,
it's going to help her basket across all our problems,
so there is no rest. We were in it and.
Eventually got word on the twenty second, that Dunham past
when he was removed from my support. So
He lived for eight days from
point of injury to
in real life, support this
set aside,
The common on rank were there as well
that is all for us and
In total,
we're in the middle of it there's no break
It's just something else that we had to absorb and
when I got the word
that evening, when
we had a breakin patrols, I pulled
Whole company in
and gave him the news
One of the things that that.
Really on the this. This guy
What's he literally interviewed
like everyone in TAT came in contact with Jason
for that time period ends.
The story ass, it unfolds is very
but it's so detailed than it lets you. It gives,
he born insight into
not just the frontline troops wherever that's that's in that
in the service and what they're doing the medical folks.
There's a section right here that debt,
park, its back a little bit to that
Its is AL. Ought Iraq on the morning of April, Fourteenth Becky sparks
commander of Alpha surgical company received an email with new instructions from the chief surgeon, the first marine expeditionary force, the title treatment of expectant patience, patience or have struck a civilian is out of place in a hospital in the middle, the combat zone, but
on a battlefield met. Medicine expire
didn't means quite the opposite of what it does and far away world of maternity wards and delivery. Ropes
Spected mother is expected to create life and
Beckett soldier.
Was expected to die.
For years, the email, occasionally in our trio of patients,
in the combat violence. We classify. Patients is expected.
The chief search wrote with
four casualties. These patients have our Lois priority for care, but they have the highest priority for care
for another member of our Navy Marine Corps Team, the chaplain
Unexpected patient does not always die
Spectin means you expect something to happen, and most often it is death, but sometimes after the higher priority patients have been treated and x.
Active patients survives there there.
There should be continued with resources that can be committed. Hurrah.
Efforts may seem to be helpful in the short run, but if resources are expended when the next patient arrives than you have not helped this latter patient.
This is when judgments are critical, and I would dare say that very very few of us have enough experience to make these decisions easily, when the decisions must be made. Talk about it,
include your entire team in your decisions, move on.
The patient is expected.
Make sure that he is comfortable that someone stays with an until something happens. The pace
Does die doc
at the death appropriately.
At the seven I am staff meeting commander sparks a brisk woman whose auburn, hair and bright lit lipstick stood out next to the black nine millimeter pistol hanging from her shoulder past,
the chief surgeons message along
to her physicians
She briefly discussed it with them, highlighting the advice that doctors revisit the expected once wants that
have treated the other patients.
Then she moved on other issues.
That New Jason Dunham arrived at alpha surgical company
expected to die,
in alpha surgical,
companies, contingency plan for dealing with mass casualty event
Possibility for the expected ward fell in the navy. Dental team.
They had enough general knowledge to push intravenous food into a dying man, but not enough to be much use in the trauma were ward operating.
Room or intensive care unit dental
Technician first class Christopher Graham, who had help carried Jason Stretcher, inform the helicopter been waiting outside the emergency room, while the doctors completed their trio's after
Fifteen minutes the door opened in an order emerged from the chaos please
this patient to the expected ward.
Graham and three other
Graham and three others carried corporal dunams letter to deem white tiled room with a pair of broken shower stalls.
A tape above the door red washroom. All the saw is were used elsewhere, worse of validity, carefully placed the structure on the floor. Grandson,
By corpuscles, by the corporal side
cross from Rachel Sterling a twenty one year old, dental technician, third class sterling
The chosen service in the Navy, because her grandfather and great uncle had been sailors
maybe who tenant James Elles Harris the third a thirty two year old, Dennis from crime?
the Texas joined them in the expected warm word and deed,
The chaplain
Did the chaplain lieutenant? What's.
Then they waited for Corporal Dunham to die
For forty five minutes they spoke to him in soft voices.
Holding his hands and stroking his limp, monsieur arms, ass, Lieutenant Harris pushed fluid.
Painkillers into his veins from an ivy sack.
The marine corps is proud of you and world.
Out of you Graham told
Well, obviously, em.
Dunham was a fighter, wasn't wasn.
Was going give up
makes it to Germany and
you know again. I think I.
Shows up in Germany,
and this is the year.
Situation, he was in Jason, was hooked up to a plethora of medical equipment over the course of the day.
It was an inter cranial pressure, monitor
There was a catheter that passed through his urethra drain, his bladder into a bag, a line ran into his left femoral artery, to monitor his blood pressure and allow the nurses to draw blood samples easily. He had a rectal,
temperature probe on the right side of his coin, was a triple headed catheter running into a vain for I ve fluids and drugs
and endotracheal tube in his mouth, to facilitate the passage of air between the ventilator and his lungs plus, a suction tube, to draw excess fluid from his lungs and an
gastric tube to suck out stomach acid.
Impressive sleeves on both camps, alternating these squeezed and relax, to keep blood moving through his legs to prevent clots
I've pads on his chest, mongers heartbreak
oxygen, monitor, was clipped onto his finger. A blood pressure cuff was on his arm in case the automatic reading failed.
Nurses put a sterile plastic cup under each year to come,
the serene cerebrospinal fluid that continue to drain.
Out of his your drugs,
So he's normal conditions, horrible permission and
he's on the brink of of of die. This whole time.
These men.
Folks in the military are doing everything they can to making.
Our efforts.
An aid they want to get him stable enough.
So that they can get him back to America at a minimum,
An error there actually are able to do that
at this time.
Jason's, mom and dad had been notified of others.
That their son had been wounded, and this is one thing that's.
I don't know what the protocol is when.
Someone gets killed,
there's a there's, a knock on the door.
When someone's wounded.
Depending on the severity and how well it's known- and I don't know what they do in the Marine corps in the seal teams- they're gonna still try and give someone a knock on the door. But why,
damn damn Dan got was a phone call, hey
No, what's going on, we ll have much information.
Jason's been wounded and
If I remember correctly, even get like a massive amount of criticality, you know they didn't. They worked quite sure, but
They do find out that he's common. They get
two
Dc Bethesda area and.
Jason
nickel personnel, the Germany, are able to get him stable enough to.
Send him back.
And when he
lands back in America.
This is what our fault,
Thirty nine year old, Lieutenant Colonel Jim Burne was working as a federal prosecutor going
After colombian drug traffickers, when he volunteered for active duty, he expected to end up at the naval base Guantanamo Bay, Cuba prosecuting the Taliban
kind of suspects.
Instead the Marine Centre Bethesda.
TAT, the liaison unit.
Burn strove to Andrews AIR Force Base Wednesday night too
the plane from Germany and watch the crew load corporal dunams litter,
private ambulance waiting on the tar back,
sat for a few minutes. Next adjacent Laurie
The plane was deafening
and burn leaned over the speed
it to his ear.
Welcome. Back euro we're gonna, take care of you.
Earth colonels standard, greening for a wounded man.
Bird had no idea of Jason could hear him.
But just in case
plain that
They were at the year base where the president's plain landed,
going to be taken to the naval hospital.
In the.
And when he gets there.
This is where
his mom and dad Jason's mom and dad didn't. Dare
finally get to see him,
Dan and Dead walked into the room and saw Jason line naked on his back. A towel covering is growing in a catheter tube running to a year and backed by the foot of his bed
was rapid, gauze,
and the left side of his face was a mass of purple and read it.
That bracelet tilted his head slightly both eyes- were still swallowed, shot and dunams imagined
de left eye socket beneath the information. His lip
and tongue which protruded next
plastic breeding, tube, looked parched,
The ventilator moved his chest up and down in perfect, robotic rhythm rhythm.
His feet, curled down towards each other in an exaggerated, pigeon toad position, Dan thought he looked thin as if his muscles were already fading.
Body looked called I'd, love to put a blanket.
She said I know that's the instinct. The nurse responded but we're trying to keep him cool.
Deb sat in a chair on Jason's, more heavily damage left side and dance at across from her. They each
Wanna Jason's hands they
each other's hands across station stomach. We love you.
Sure, Jason.
You're gonna, be all right. Hi, honey, Deb said we're here, your home and we're here.
So
again at this point I mean you,
still are working
did. You guys have
mean for you would see. You'd seen, Jason had probably where the most
Whenever aware, you know mentally, while you're getting him Kazaa, backed
what were you thinking do you think, did you think he was gonna live? Did you think
what I told you what I want. What I was thinking is like if we survived the first twenty four hours, that kind of going along with the no news was good news things, so it would like day for five and we started having really a lot of hope. You know,
that time you see stabilize, we haven't heard, not them my thence unless what kind of told up its own way
I've seen him? I really you can tell a lot of his damages and at the time
Kilo six it only later that a peace had come up through
bottom of his throat Wednesday
We do not know that at the time to adjust
others already capillary bleeding. I was worried as long is that
pressure from the grenade.
Like I said every day that you lived, I was I was hoping for
I could tell the zone because your they ask every day for updates and just
and the biggest thing is we still had to go work
and everything- and I remember, on the fourteenth-
your body goes through. These is illogical changes that you really can describe to you do it in whenever the
happen. You just go off your training than you'll. Think about it, but I remember as being at Camp Ganem, Limbless Lena's pause.
Was just about the sun
gonna set here another hour so, but we had a role that role through that dams. Town
again in Cuba,
to our train station
but I remember, then I felt sick switch spots with them ring
from certain in the back up against the cab, the hungry too, and so I can draw here
and you know, and then I remember going back that night.
Rode up a statement that was page and half long causes
I knew what had happened and I knew it was gonna, be metal, little or Navy Cross for for what you did was hoping.
But I also remember to waking up in the middle of the night that translation violently just from
explosion again and hearing that and just sitting up right violently and it's like,
can train yourself for that, but till you experienced savages he can't help them
and then I remember some of the Marines being angry and they won like retaliation, especially
as we have those three enemy, Peel Debbie's, but dyke can't guy. We gotta get back in Tell
clogs all that stuff. The bigger picture thing that some tough days for the company.
One thing that
it's interesting. Both both you guys mentioned is like
and this is a double edged sword, but I'll take it is. You have work to do and
We we're gonna have to deal with these things at some point, but you know
What what when I lost my first guy mark lee-
we had there's no instruction manual and protocols to follow. There's no there's no
book procedure that we could follow. There's nothin like that.
And it was just me and then you know
was the first you killed in Iraq And-
There wasn't a lot of experience in dealing with that.
And what I said to the guy's was.
We're gonna go back to work
that's what we're gonna do, order to go back to work and
I believe there is
Something beneficial to that, and one of the things that I notice a lot with guys do get.
When they have a hard time.
A lot of times, I see its guys that don't have a new mission of some kind of what is your new mission to be an that's one of the things that I
advise
your military folks that are better transitioning out of the military
You need a new mission. You gotta have something else to focus on
Because, if you don't do that, then
You're stuck yours,
Thinking about this stuff and though
Spots.
You have to have right. You have to have if you're going to have them overtime. You know we were talking about this earlier you're going to have those thoughts every time you got to sort this out your head, but
just like when you have, when you get sick
and you take medicine you'll, take all the medicine at once.
You don't take all the medicine wants, you take it a little bit of time and you bring it back a little bit of time. You you here,
over time, and I
I believe that
a good thing about having when you're on the pointed like. Oh, yes, what we're gonna do
Will you have a ceremony at then we're gonna get back to work tomorrow afternoon.
And I think that beneficial
and we don't always get that opportunity, and especially guys that get home and get out.
It can be really hard because their revenue mission in their dare try take all that medicine at once, which is which is hard to take heartily
Call that medicine at the same time
the medicine is gonna, be there like it's do your brain? Ask it sorted out over time, but-
Take your time with it and when the only ways to do that is, if you have a new mission, something else to focus on
if you guys get Kazaa backed all
was that process like we got split up at times.
Because I was a little more severe than bill. So
American picked up from Elsie parent and they said,
at the very root of the black hawk
I could see was the ceiling, and I hear is the blades and then
Must have passed out a logo on a fake, as it was really short. A number
waken up in the tiny aid
And there were no my arms still here.
Shit as really out of it, but I wasn't. There was like
It will very surreal like I could send
everything that was going on and I could see people doing stuff. But at the same time like I just wasn't mentally processing what was going on like on the door
there's asked me if anything was
with my mouth,
and I didn't say anything I just reached in and pulled out a to fragment and showed it to us
the non verbal answer. So
I believe
Gibson for
our attempt to do you guys come into bs and see me before I flew out
the time aid Cinema
eventually even told ok, just words.
A moment human rob. I can remember. Ok
I remember them coming in any news right before I was getting pushed out to our side because,
I needed some abrasion surgeries which-
God now Assad
Basically, once a tiny announced by myself-
I didn't have anybody else.
In our I got sweat pants cause. I was in just boxers and am
one of the key
Maybe.
People there, the muse, sat phone and I called home. Unfortunately,
that goes. I left my dad out the dry on that one. Sorry, dad
well. What was the message? Dad dad got wounded? Guess not homes are by no here he answered, and it was.
Times when mom moment at work.
So I call my dad I call
and my dad answer, they cater
college now know I got her. I'm ok.
I'm gonna end up in Germany.
Soon I dont know when
But I wanted to let you know that was it
is it ok, I love you know everything,
The problem was a lot more questions and he didn't have any answers. You know
she was just happy that I called and told him. I was okay, you didn't think that stuff. So I kind of left my tablet ten point, one.
But if he doesn't AL for
few days, I had two degrees surgeries and then they
as a me out to Germany.
In Germany, I had two more region surgeries.
Bandit changes.
And I was therefore five days-
and I was actually peered up with one of the guys that was on the roof, they got hit yeah
and he had taken a bullet in the hip and travel down his labor.
It came out of pity to
Yes, I came on name, he ended up yes and he can
the vector taxes from Germany,
because that's where is run so
once I love Germany, I hid Bethesda for four days. I had
one word abrasion surgery
and that was it there and the man I had a bow in
in in the on my mom. I had fallen out to Maryland. She was there.
First it with me. She flew on military five from the third to the first
she didn't show you she was,
she was amazing.
The hope she jumped through to find out when I was asking to fester, were pretty impressive. She had an old friend who was attired airport
colonel shadow,
of him,
he actually found out work has ratified. I was on
and then she rallied her friends to get air miles and flew out and met me outstanding
And then in boy I had
two oral surgeries and like a seventh reason, surgery, because
my arm had got hit so bad. I was and swelling whose basely pushing the muscle out of the woods
so they had to clean up and I know, function and am
I was in San Diego.
Beat me. The same they'll be made a San, Diego.
Because actually Linda behind their cause. I was there for a week in half
before they sent me home on convalescent, because I can
take care of myself, so they just sitting here. Sixty days go home, so I M back onto Eureka and then in Eureka had former surgeries
Two days from being home, I reached out to grab a glass of water if my right arm- and I had a piece of metal sitting Right- am I break already on the right hand, side the flexing from the muscle pushed
the shovel down rupture.
Break all in my arms swill up, huge and just causing
not a I'd, have emergency surgery that night,
Well, our vascular Sergio my right arm where I got
from my ankle, grafting and a bunch of stuff
Then, two weeks later, on my follow up for that the doctor, I asked my question doctor, but my left arm cause there's this weird vibration. In my pick, a few of my right hand, he puts his hand on varies a you haven't even officially we're gonna for surgery tonight so
What what was isn't an av, so my break already had a hole it in
So my vain had a hornet. So
what's coming out of my break ordering going back in my veins, charming down my arm like its both you and it creates like a really low. They called a thrill, but if it vibrates breeds, we can feel it. I was bad enough.
So that was sixteen hours surgery
happened that night and
Then the rehab started for me, as
eight months of physical therapy
Two more surgeries lot, cussing lots of.
But in the silver like my recovery processes after the surgeries is the brink
I tried medically discharging broken marine. That was unacceptable to me, so captain
that time he put me in to company office staff? I was described
Down so I did that was re. Having in when
rotated out. We got a new captain. Captain gives new as a new company commander, and he allowed me stay on and keep having,
Shari come back and it got
whereas banned from his office. Has you
Tired of me asking to go back to my party
and it took me nine months of physical,
be rehab
a lot of getting here.
Let us stop asking and.
Captain Ash told me that I bet
I'll bring it up again and this at a note from my doctor, my physical therapists and my mom tell ok enough to go back to the tune
my mom
I think, are shocked him. The next day when I came into the
Thus, with a note from my doctor, my physical therapists and my mom come on scratch. Guru mob decide off, but that's all so she knew I had to because we are gearing up to deploy romani in
the whole time I, like I signed up to serve my four years are not merely discharged eyesight signed up
to do my four years, so it can have
She did like it, but she respected it. I think- and I M so
he. Let me go back to opportune and I'd point again, but it was. It was indeed
I needed to prude myself. I was about to die. There
I had to go back
and make sure all my brother's made it back
I had to do a Dunham did for me. I d make sure everybody
made it back and I just
I had to serve my four years. It was this a spirit, a core derive.
To do what I signed up to do
the whole time.
I went through the emotional rainbow.
This journey, it wasn't an easy journey at all. I went from so
Destructive to depression,
fires, invincible lot of
what about choices, but in the end I I found this path of I'm not fuck and hurt. I'm not fucking
stables. My arm and I planned slope its softball.
Got yelled at my mom
twenty one on a field with twenty of your friends and your mom shows up the stairs fucking yeah, it's embarrassing by that's how I healed is
Got so fed up with being hurt, that's a fucking not hurt,
I'll buy were open handed out to do.
But why should I mostly deployed with arm in a two thirds
because my left arm wasn't stronger. Sooner have orange mobility. I was good enough to fit.
And make it a good. You know, but.
It was about a coping and I had to be run eyebrows Kosovo wasn't around them, probably wouldn't.
I will kill myself someway somehow
and I need them help me. Please keep grounded to give me a mission.
My mission was
They're gonna make it through this one. So.
That was a lot of surgeries yeah a lot.
I'd gone for a shorter surgery, because the war fuck my back and shoulder a pretty good and
anesthesiologist. You know the guy
to talk to you a frequent surgery she's like have you ever had,
instead of four guys got this huge she's like what am I I'm an anastasia, proud.
I'm good, don't worry about me. I wake up from it. Just fine she's like how do you know and as I am about six,
surgery, deep lot of metal,
bill.
You get chasm that
it has backed. I think I want to
after the Battalion aid Station
And the Miller and I got on the helicopter.
From there.
I went to Anaconda an eight.
Some metal out of my leg and
stick me up
and
day later, a couple hours later, I was on a flight up the limestone.
And then from their away,
straight into San Diego.
Stay there for about a week or two to skip.
Made sure that,
I hold in my arm, wasn't gonna
be detrimental then,
they sent me on my gone combo eve,
where'd you go on combo with back home of the Washington Washington.
Nice place to convert her
in all
one of the hardest things through my whole life.
Rebecca was nobody honey answers for me.
I didn't know. No,
and I saw a new- accept astronaut Jason,
I wanted to know
my mom had during the point,
became a contact with Devon Dan Become became, you know a marine family
And my moments when the next tell me Jason fast,
when I was in as it does.
First on hospital and stole me, a member
It was like crushing, which we just
Bree living at all again,
The lieutenant wanted, knowing only news, I got really was the bad news.
Bill you you're, it sounds like you're, the one that actually saw. Oh, you saw
him with his helmet reached out and
your private first person at that. I know what just happened
My sister broke the news to me on the twenty second, twenty third, twenty. Fourth
whatever they came down to her and stated
Fischer House.
About about Bobo.
Yeah when I pulled that rifle back and I
taken in my head, my
had gone down and he was right there with right, learn frightened
I didn't. I thought his helmet and come off during the during the fight and.
Like our old him,
There are go I'll, do this and then-
You know what I know.
Talk a lot about decision making and and ass combat leaders you gotta make decisions.
Your ex existing you're, my car decisions and.
As hard as those decisions are, I there's a.
The absolute
Most horrible of all decisions.
But I can't even fathom
to make as one that Dandan Deb were faced with
this is based on the fact that their gettin told that.
I made this. This is what they get told.
Doktor done introduced himself and Doktor Mahl again,
Join them back in the waiting room dead thought. The thirty five year old Mulligan was pretty damn thought you seem lawfully young for neurosurgeon doktor Mulligan spent little time on pleasantries. The prognosis for your son is grim. She said she explained
the biggest grenade fat, fragmented, cost, so much damage that, even if he survived Jason, would likely be paralysed on one side and unable to speak or understand those who spoke to him. So
of his brain stem, destroyed its ability to keep the body alive unless machine
Breathing for
What you see is what you have she said
You will never be able to hear you know you were there.
Well, then said there is an operation she could do to relieve the pressure Jason's brain
she warned she was sure the Jason was strong enough to survive the surgery or that it would do any good. Even if you did survive.
The damage she believed had already been done.
Not be reversed.
The chances for full normal,
you recovery, are or non existent.
The doctors then mentioned the unmentionable
The Dunham should consider taking Jason off of life support, so
They pulled out a copy of juices living well, which he had signed while serving at the Sub Basin Georgia. They read it together in silence. If, at any time, I should have a terminal condition become in a coma with no reasonable expectation of regaining consciousness will become in a persistent vegetative state, with no reasonable expectation of regaining significant cognitive functions function,
In any such event,
Directed the application of life saving procedures to my body,
be withheld and withdrawn.
And then I be permitted to die.
so they make their decision
the Dunham start the breathing
Seemed more labored than before, either through the ventilator,
I can't sit here and watch us anymore, dad told Deb doc
done described, how they were disconnect ventilator, then, what
happen afterwards, a nurse
hooked up a morphine dripped, Jason's ivy.
Is he going to feel anything? Deb asked the doctors assured her tat. He would not.
The Dunham stepped out of the room, the medical staff
Pull the current clothes net for thirty five p m. The respiratory therapists slid the tube from Jason's throat.
The nurse turned off the alarm on his heart, monitor
The observer Jason's right side across from there.
Doktor, don't stood at the foot of the bed watching
Jason and the monitors the Turks
a burden to his men stood there in silence.
The colonel knew he was intruding on a private moment considered leaving, but this ban,
was corporal dunams final battlefield. He thought.
A Marines don't abandon their brothers on the battlefield.
A chaplain administered last rites.
Then he leaned over to help their removal gloves
and she once again fell juice and skin.
She held is here.
Sometimes she reached across and held dance, and sometimes she pressed her own Jason's heart would break
you dad said we love you.
Deb touch the side.
And the bridge of Jason's no stroked his arms and said it's ok, honey. You can go now doktor
on watches the blue line on the monitor screen, showed plunging levels and oxygen and Jason's blood
His heart rate fell into the green line when silently flat
one step forward and bent down to less magicians, lungs and heart. He straightened up.
Remove the stethoscope from his ears and said he's got.
There is for forty three p m April twenty second, two thousand and four.
Jason's body relaxed.
And they had thought his son look like himself again.
Then put a photo of
family the hand.
I know we were talking
before we get this thing off down.
We're talking about the fact that the others always things that we can look at from,
whether its decision you made whether it's a meaningless decision or one that matters no hay.
We stopped here, do we go there or do we put this unit over here to go over there and we go down this road? Do I go on this side of the vehicle that there's a million little decisions that we all make and we all made,
It is something that can absolutely.
It's something that.
None of us can change
and is something that if we,
If you knew the outcome.
If any of us knew the outcome of the situations that we ve been through shared.
Look back and say up go
instead a right
Go forward and said, o back
go to that vehicles. Are this vehicle.
But we don't have that luxury.
We don't have the luxury of knowing what the outcome is: gonna, be
of every decision that we make.
But we do have?
We do have control over the decisions we make.
The decisions that we make
What we do now and how we handle
The things tat we ve been through,
And ass,
I hear this story unfold and said here with you guys
yeah have rhetoric about.
Not so much the fact that look, there's a million decisions we all made.
Led to this point in our world,
We can't control on. We can't take him back, and even if we could, we didn't know the outcome.
But we have the opportunity to make decisions now
But to move forward in the right direction.
You know we ve been on,
we ve gone for a while and in
I told you guys in the beginning I was like this is gonna suck
and I was also talk about the fact that, like anything that
Socks, you know you, you gain something from it. Do you make progress.
You become stronger.
Is the bottom line. You know you do something hard.
As an individual, when you do something hard, you become stronger as a unit as you do something hard.
You become stronger.
These things that we go through make us stronger. They make us better.
And your before, before, we.
Close out, you know, I don't know if I just if you guys want to have one last thought. You know about Jason.
About his impact on you.
And the decisions
you may now in your life bill what he got brother.
I'll keep by myself
Occupies myself with four kids.
Two acres and small farm I've
I didn't grow up, hunting.
But when I got out of the marine corps I took up hunting, I got into it. I got,
Certificate and then went out and applause
more or less my infantry, too,
hunting.
I found this
the more time in the woods and the more time I'm out there, it so quiet.
That I can find myself and I
Find peace and when you get at it,
Is it a challenge, though, when you're climbing up the hill.
If you love a he'll, is
really work is that you,
the top of the hill and
their because Jason I've got
Kids to teach
and a teacher to hunt and they love the idea of it all.
I've got things to do now because
Jason I've got
of life to live.
I've got for race
and I got my best friend that helps me.
She's, an incredible woman,
altogether on our own. That's,
she's she's been holding me together quite a bit we're goin almost fourteen years now
yeah. Well, everything you just said from the farm,
to the hunting too.
Raising for
and reason for four
kids, that war reflection and never
Get that's out I'll stay,
and and yes, your wife must be paid
credible to put up with you,
finger fork.
This definitely sought and I knew.
Going to buy a yellow,
picture until his story
thing and just like on that
dusty road that day
three. You still have my back and it was tough for all
was to be here today, some more
others and the main
Thing is just don't you
things for granted to be grateful. These guys have families, kids,
great lies because of the sacrifice. What Jason did? We all know that the greatest
the humanity ever witnessed upright ever will, but it's like
Is legacy lives on through these guys and what they stand for? An energy is tragic that strength sometimes and go
Lord, but it's amazing with veterans what happens on on a grassy no in a wadi in a valley on it
Ass, he rode on the syrian erect Iraq border will live with us until we die and it's the brotherhood helps
we love, we miss Jason, happy birthday and thank you for having honoured, haven't guys
Kelly boot it. I guess you got louder ass. You got your freak in arms about blood, often almost made it has both that's out there. For me.
My proposal is long after I got hurt.
Healed held. The point again came back. I.
Was very, very, very self destructive thought as invincible, but I I was lucky enough to wake up and move on
and allow bill. I found a woman in my life who
Supports me unconditionally, but challenges mean to not be crippled by what I've been through. Otherwise,
I probably would be she
he puts it pushes me they get help and do things for myself, but at the same time,
fires meta, be self, listen, be present inaccurate, wrapped up in the wash.
So very fortunate for that and then,
because a Jason I have a little Samuel you.
Is my best friend we
Look together, drive mom, crazy, laughed wrestle, hang out, fuckin live,
I get the live because of him
living is the greatest gift, but is also the biggest burden.
I've done through a lot and I swear. I wish I was the one I was the boot I didn t know
but because my family.
I love him and always let him because of what it's not a disease.
Well, you know the best thing to do with that gift. He gave you and you know that every day enjoy it absolutely take that little boy
yet you raise him into a man area.
Trust me doesn't take it easy on me
I feel better Rick. I now last time I at the box and those on so
now I just.
If it wasn't for him, I wouldn't have my wife. I went out my son, the memories
whenever I get from them, how the whole
it'd from a loss,
Well, I guess editor gifted and and two your boy out there
by the way. I said, hey kid, you don't remember
Two books for kids, you wanna freedom, because no the first person, I've ever said that you almost people at least have little thing in the back. I had to say, have get some for free I'll. Take it not yet
I'm not here to read as it cool I got the padded rooms out there, you can go run around and he said I'll do that. Instead, he found your speed bag and he already asked me if he could get one will sponsor that
Ass man entered what do you got?
we're on post appointment leave
tween aware of what I have to me. Just came back from Karla
my ex already Sociedad was
the time after that date.
Down palm Springs House
This you have me say, Sir Three, four just dumped
Thirty four rings are, on our doorstep,
Story form rings from our sister retie. He don't have enough time with three fortune four to play with them. So,
our second under three seven and no deploy with us.
So some of some of those Marines are going to be coming to Kylo. I said all right hand:
on the first day back from that leave blood at the end of the day,
certain holder company formation of by the barracks,
seven new
in six or seven you corporal came to us from three
We got seven of those and I wonder
former. We welcome them to the family, so
without the formation.
I welcome aboard not turned over there. For me
for certain
and I had him semi those seven
ensues, step back,
formation standing there
it sounded barracks,
I felt it was important to say so
Tom
some significant.
So I told the same thing that I I told you
the day I took command in Kerbela back in.
Early June, of all three
item, I believe in three things as worrying
the leading by example.
A little self sacrifice,
for the greater good
I believe that one man can make a difference
That's what I'm expecting from you
should expect from me
Two years later I found myself prepare
in his speech for the town, P
stoning or doing
the ceremony,
in which they would dedicate their post office.
To their son Jason down,
and they Fleming was their Rudy. Was there
several range are able to make up for that.
And David Byrne is a matter for a short time with weapons
before we organise company and
and Dave assuring sharing with me, but the memory of
some anecdote during that time, and it
It started me the memory of my talk with
those seven in Yosemite,
and one of those seven was gone
and I realized in a flash, the
In that moment,
utter selfishness.
Did he embodied
the very essence of those three virtues
Leadership by example,
self sacrifice for the greater good
and one man making a difference,
and as for accepting, think of no
more profound example of
humanity that
the acme of human existence.
Give your life for another.
Haven't you got three girls and fuckin buoyant Jason to boy
due to girls world's two boys,
Money said William Jason. We add jet.
Down stairs working, gonna, fuckin, heavy bag,
Jason
Judges, Miller Life begets life. I spent
a couple years
couple of awkward years as
the company commander of marijuana recipients,
something I didn't want.
I just wish did
The second step
over Christmas,
and then one day I walked up appear.
At best. Our works in may
I was there to the mast
Debbie ceremony
I've, given you want, or nine years,
Jason town
and nothing can repair you this.
Marines name
from the transom fuckin neighborhoods
and I realized that moment I saw his name.
That in that moment of surpluses,
You transformed an object of personal protection.
Into an instrument of protection of workers,
and in a moment
he his actions,
Have created,
far reaching consequences
he never could have duplicated life
in a moment he
was born into the heritage of our core
and his example
will stand alone,
side of
countless others.
Who created that heritage
and will continue to inspire
Marines and sailors.
And anyone else who hears his story for
years.
And years and years
it's an impact it I still can't fathom
But he
is leading by example.
Every day, still
and today is thirty. Eight years old,
on the two hundred forty fourth,
anniversary of the birth of our core,
If that isn't something
I what is it some
There can be no use, the term overwhelming, and it's pretty
easy to be overwhelmed by something like this
it's easy, be overwhelmed by on act.
Of such.
Selflessness to me-
the ultimate sacrifice it
easy to look at that and get overwhelmed by it.
And maybe think yourself. Well, you know that was
That was something else something I don't understand something carefully to add something I dont need to think about.
And I would actually say, do you know.
That actually is something you
you'd think about. That, actually is something you should relate to. That is something you should try and pursue.
Every single day to think about
to think about every single day
a person, a person.
Flesh and blood.
With one life to live
Who gave his life for his friends.
And maybe every day, if you think
About not what you can take from the world.
But what you can give.
And if you can do that right there, if you can give a little bit and reflect
a little bit of Jason Dunham back
to the world.
But then the world will be a better place for it there, with them
we ve been out for a while
And I just want to thank all of you guys for.
Come on here for share in some of these things that you learned from him from sharing it with other people.
And an thank you all, of course individually, for what you all did they. I can.
Talk to each one of you individually separately for hours to do here about what you guys been through.
What you ve seen.
So thanks for your service and sacrifice, but thank you for coming here and for
honouring your brother.
Not only in the ways that you're living your lives right now raising your children.
But also by telling the story.
Of his life.
And ensuring that no one ever forgets
sacrifice that he made.
And I can promise you we will never forget him. So thanks for coming on
happy birthday to the Marine Corps, happy birthday, the Jason Dunham and, of course,
Super Fidel's
If I said, and with that our guests have left the building sergeant bill, Hampton Court,
Kelly Miller staff sergeant John Fergie Ferguson and Lieutenant Colonel Trent Gibson, thanks to all of them for coming on and ECHO Charles, has joined us at the table good evening echo good evening. You were in the support role on that podcast. Yes, so appreciate you manning,
controls in the back keeping things running smoothly. Obviously, on
for us to be able to sit here and talk with with those men
and and and once again when we
and off the reporters in and we were gonna help in those guys know can't get out of here know that they all had play
To be and what not, but you know.
You could see that they were happy to come on
happy to share the story, and I said guys
I thought about this before, but I
guys. Imagine if you could sit down and put some headphones on
and listen to the
tune commander, the machine Gunnar, the platoon sergeant. That was
out there with John Basil.
And if you could do that mentioned what that would mean to you and that's
what it is like for them to come on here,
and share the story of Jason, Jason Dunham. So
nada. For for me to be sitting here and
be able to meet with those guys.
And share that story.
Heavy as it is. You know what I know its not noticed.
One of the heaviest stories that that a person can share, and
Those guys sit down and and
through this. I just want to say thanks to them once again enjoy I
One of the most important things that I need to put out about this is that there are
Some people right now trying to put together a documentary about the life of Jason Dunham and what he did,
how it all happened, and so the documentary
going to be called the gifts, and it's a curse.
Well, that's
well. That's are trying to make the documentary.
So if you want to support them, do you can
to face
look or instagram they have at the gift documentary and then
they're trying to do is funded
and they're, trying to fund it through
indeed go go campaign, so
if you were indeed go, go which
a website where they take. Don't.
She to make things happen, and in that case
in that on that indeed go go campaign
it is called the gift documentary, so
you can try.
Provide some support, so that,
story can be told in
detail,
rolled out to an even larger audience so check that out and if you can try and help them out to move forward with this project,
In hearing this story, I guess echo, you know, I also told those guys about how we sort of decompress after these things and
that is an actual thing
and what we just did we just decompress with guys rise once we got down, we kind of talk about
We walked outside, we started, haven't some normal conversations about life and in
while bill was shown me pictures of hunting and his kids and run round with jet and just doing decompression, so
that's awesome. You gotta do that and that sort of how we started this whole support part supports.
Segments segment year was, we did a part,
Asked was one of the
report. Gas was really heavy and we got got. I was like hey. I need a moment over here to why? Don't you talk for a minute and so
that's kind of where it came from
The good thing is: if you don't want to listen to this, it's fine, you don't need to you. Can just press stoppin work were good. You can go care
with your day. If you need to decompress a little bit with us call, you can hang out, we were gonna, hang out from it
till we get a little the compressed and
You know one of the things that it is good to reflect on. How do we take what we just heard, which is heavy and turn
into something that we can actually
lies far as I'm concerned. We got.
You know when you hear a story like Jason Dunham we get charged.
With living the best lies, we're gonna be
the best people. We can- and you heard this from all these guys- it's like hey. How can we live better, do better
So that's what we're here for you know
could look at our lives and say: what can we do better in our lives? How can we get better? How can we be better? That's what we're looking at.
And I know you know some ways- echo Charles Dickens.
What's one of the primary ways that you can think of duty to guess
You get ass this I get asked the other day, someone woods
when he presented this problem to me
This whole problem of like look
we or tribal in nature and tribes are gone and we used to hunt and all these things with God, and now we got cell phones, people this whole big, this whole bay,
societal problem entered won't, do
I think we should do about. This.
Incredibly,
powerful, societal problem that we ve got of people being disconnected not need not not being formally to charging. We little hole, litany of problems and also oh yeah, all that just register
and I'm not even getting actually serious. Oh you got. You want to connect with people
you want to be part of a tribe. You want to be healthy. You want to hunt, you want to get out your aggression, cool. I got an answer for all the things you will need an electrically stimulated cause. I got an answer to that. What else I got ants work
It's called you to do so,
go find its due to Jim started.
Is what I'm saying. Yes. Do you conquer one percent?
good, I'm gonna get that extra one percent as well. You know it's one of these things. Were you not over your estimating your passion in your shoe? You're enthuse,
the more the whole situation? So and then you asked me if I agree so I do agree one hundred percent numerically and technically
extra, one per se is because the euro enthusiasm- I am reflecting one hundred percent yadda plus one gotta eat-
I feel even stronger. In my estimation, I like it. I am not going to tell you how you feel, of course, but given my interpretation, so I'm looking at Mr Graham, I don't call it the ground
instagram changing I'm looking at the end, I follows on: I forget what is called it's called like houses or something like this. What are the ones with all the nice houses run insecure? It's called houses. Ok, maybe I don't know what is
some houses, but they're, like
huge mansions land legs. So this one I'm look as twenty five million dollars you.
It's a hotel, size house.
The market area, an reduce your low qualifications at twenty five meal. Like that you max price, you wanna go over that yeah. She had a little bit recent thought:
think to myself: either you boot thoughts, leading role through your head. All of
bunch and then something? I wonder, who owns that House Reign of selling it right now for twenty five million
who owns the twenty five million other house, and why and what are they doing in there seems do they have
that's do they pull a bar for sure? Yes, that do, but at their concluded, with this sort of thought that drifted me off of the house of looking at it. Ok,
If what kind of money do you have to have to be
sure by the twenty five million dollar house so low.
Say that, let's say you have five billion dollars was just sick Brigham them. You think that the latter not a five billion dollars, the average person.
Namely me does not have five, but I dont have had they would five billion dollars make a difference in my life, financially will yeah. But what,
Someone offered you this just. I write that what is on offer to five billion dollars, so you could have what
for to buy the husband policemen matters. One is it
They often you five billion dollars, but here's the thing you could never changed again
we have no reason for the mass in the house. Yes, no reason, but would you take that finally dollars and I'll tell you why not normal?
on the premise and principle, but also, then you
putting your soul at hazard
you only you know still compounded bought. Now, I'm sorry it out there is that, because next thing is becoming now, don't don't go. There's a slippery slope. It's a slippery slope world! So don't give up the judge you for anything. No money, no amount of money, don't give up. Yourself fell from money right yet for money, but that, aside, that I dont twenty five million our house in California just
why one point one percent sales, tax or property tax you're, paying
to over two hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year in property tax on that property. So just did
f? Why, if you're in the market for the twenty five million dollar house, should think about how you gonna cover that tax scenario, because it's not a good scenario re? So, if you have twenty,
million dollars in the banking. You blackmailed by the house, and I ll be good. I got twenty five may not just in the former hath. No things can be some taxes on odious, a lot of them to be hard core to so by
Ok, you got an idea and I agree: don't sell your soul for money. Don't do that, just the fact to be selling some for money. That's about things I get it
Nike, made me angry as you as you add, you apply,
the offer which I kind of new was coming that actually made me map Jakarta, just like that. You can reproach me with that was
hey man, like you think you can buy me well technically, was not a pretty new. I approach myself with it. One of lean been lookin industry has, but unless here's the
question is: would you do that that the full selling thing aside principle, principally the principle of that that aside
Would you do it like basically you're giving up Jiu Jitsu for something massive in your life? A message like improvement in your life thing is no, and I Wouldn'T- and I didn't even have to think about.
Not one always us like saying when you kill your mother, Kenneth depends on who you are, but it's like one of those deals worthy like no amount of money. You know and that's just a train not to mention,
like oh, you lose all your duty to knowledge. Isn't that last thinking about a laughing you in deep on it
The gradual said Rob bring about this kind of providing greater dream happening. It's all good, so
I will keep training judges or year. We restate was that point. That's how much Judy means finally and dollar price tag off Madame and of not even close check, all the money needed and less so and people training
they know the stuff, maybe the other feeling, maybe they don't less
in your life, improve
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also. We got Americans, young Americans in our workforce and guess what they're doing stepping up in rebuilding the country
I've been main when we got we got, we are
Americans of all ages up their working.
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don't necessarily have to go overseas to represent,
to support our country you're.
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spirits, disparaged China as a but here's the thing, though, when you look at you or your genes like me
there's a difference that other genes vase it from you know, I'm old, you do her.
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look at it and one is made straight up. The cotton like no one is made in America grown in America from the seeds from the Cartagena. All that's the one.
That and then one is sort of meat in joining
how you said it man, it's a you kind of want to throw them away soon saying so. It's like okay, I'm going to choose and look at dig it like if you're going budget,
or something like this like like super and I get it, but with face it at the end of the day, you dont want that one. You want american main ones. I think we do. You want to support.
Madam president, as the yard was already again America you wanna,
what democracy you get yourself. A bare origins thinks so too. I think that's what we're talking about their teacher
if you were joggers, which I don't good idea
democracy. Here until you get joggers, I dont, where I think we're jug, and when I wore joggers one too
my tried him on was laughing. I showed my family and they were laughing and my my my wife was like please. Unless it's no problem
I've never been born again, but you wear jogger swell. I wear a lot less now, because
finally approach because we ve been wearing shorts. George I wore joggers the other day when I was working on. Work,
our job as a good specially for jogging. Imagine that
report deals with jogging aim as elsewhere and on the other day work you know, but I warn as much it with a short orange slaves chinaman other stuff to supplement
get so supplement nation. It it's just been proven is, and what, if you, when you were being your head against brickwork right that express
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getting aches and there are than you remember, I'm not as consistent right when you get
a consistent it like it'll? All you little pains go away.
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today. Three, these priorities or whatever
that little thing is jamming german. At my whole physical, like element of my loathing and
its words utterly. When you reduce new, take some discipline, go
or discipline of any kind the which will help help here, your ear, motor, neurons or you're you're neurons in your brain, to remember, tat, hereafter, supplement Sado get makes in paying your ears. That is why- and I gotta analyzed it literally ten seconds before a certain
about it, which is scary? There must be no that's my typical time of
analyses we first she'll live.
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don't be on the front of my mind is insane. If I do have an acre whatever it takes to warfare too frequent,
this problem. I have no problem problem
forget about that, and I would point out, is that of saying out of sight, I remind my check less so get that
some of that gets mark for your edition,
protein, that literally tastes like dessert, my daughter,
two dollars in college. I know she sent me a we'll call it a text message.
That was a picture of a peanut butter, milkshake
and of course in sees eighteen year old girl, the caption on it,
said literally h, peanut butter, chocolate, Milkshake Europe.
And then she called me to tell me about it carefully.
She was like dad. It's literally. She said it's literally
She mixed with cocoanut milk
regular milk,
cubes peanut butter, milk
literally merely literally a peanut butter, chocolate milkshake
so that's too is there a wreath. There is, in my experience, there's a resurgence of the word literally
the kids are sort of your salary is right. Now you have you got your just noticing that were already talking arise, only waited a little later, go you, but you since you consorted, jogged my memory, you
can't say it anymore, don't say it
it's off limits now. Why? Because that's what these debts were deleted,
or might eighteen and twenty year old, daughters right. So we really think that you're like trying to be trendy, saint or they're just think you're dumb,
but when I do with my kids as I wanted to say any other part of the sentence, I'll just say litter,
I would recommend that, but whose the thing about the word literally live. Literally. Yes, it has another definition. No, it's just like an exaggeration of of emphasis
you like it, doesn't have literally anymore. That happens that happen that raising us the way the english language
evolves. That's why, when I was studying English, I realized English was
you do too because,
adopts other words from other languages and they become apart and the languages? The words that are in the language can morphine change as needed, but lately this case is kind of particular,
because literally means something that either it is already isn't like all these other ones, most other words they sort of like. I can see what you mean by that. Well, let's say now ass. You know here
Two examples like and goes go yet because
Whatever thirty years ago goes
there was zero definition for goes that men here
said this already yeah because now
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she goes like the well here. Yes
but I mean in a different way, because literally means something it's like turning the word yes into. No officially, you are saying to literally means literally there's no noise version of litter, either it's literal, the literal sense of something or it's simply not there's no in between.
Now, literally literally, doesn't mean literally anymore literally so literally just means.
Very much so more. I felt it very much. Suzanne and the kids their resurging. That definition, that's all there saying it
well. You should dying when I saw this really die now, barely so that's that
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