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#1562 - Dave Smith

2020-11-11 | 🔗
Stand-up comedian, radio personality, and political commentator Dave Smith is the host of the Part of the Problem podcast and a co-host of The Legion of Skanks podcast, both part of the GaS Digital Network.
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Actually York shorts told me: the New York is like they just one war war three were dancing and streets. I was there in union Square the other day. We need to show the stand, and it was the day they called it for four Biden and as much as I just despise Joe Biden and Kemal Harris. It was kind of nice for the city to just have one. Yes, I have a day. It's the only day that it's it's felt hat, be there since March here to live at people hunt in the streets. I wouldn't want to dinner at Tom Graves in town and we're drive in People, honky and cheer in and people are so happy. I'm happy for people to be happy. Yeah like even they're, happy for a stupid reason. Bout you're like at least be happy. It's just it's too common, and you're. Gonna knows a lot about politics and in the way the world works with its two com. Potatoes to really go into depth about it for most people. So so many people just have this sort of
cursory understanding of politics, and then they follow a narrative. The narrative is trap as bad. He get him out. Biden good! and then you go Jack. What about the crime? But what about the Iraq war? What about this and that there would about what she did, that it did that nobody wants to hear it? Nobody, All the other want to say is that the good guys, one now we're going to go back to being American get Ah, then Pfizer announces a new vaccine. Well, it would be nice if we could go back to being America again. I think you're still far off from that happening, but you're you're right that I think most people in this is it's not just politics. It's true with everything in life, like most people, have expertise in very limited areas and for thing else, your kind of just trusting what somebody else tells you yeah, that's and especially with politics, so I know very little about it. Even I've read a lot about. It still requires.
All this? It did. You know there's some thuggery going on, No there's a lot of special interests in is a lot of money. this allows shenanigans, but it's like to really know how this stuff work. to really understand lobbyists to really understand how bills get past. To really understand com to really understand the Senate, like you, gotta deep, die for years gear and then use bill, don't know a lot of it, I mean you know you, you can go based off, say like what's been declassified that the CIA is doing. But what do we not? Now I mean there's, there's a whole lot that we don't know, but I think we know enough to go to know that it stinks that there is a lot of corruption and in many ways I think, that's what trump at least the people who support Trump saw him, as is the guy who was outside that system, who was kind of fighting for them, not saying that's the truth right, I think that's what a lot of
I'm supporters saw in him yeah. That was the simplistic comic book version of what Trump was to them. As I and that's where, like that queuing on stuff all comes in, and you know, people think and that its really this plot to stop child molesters and yeah well end and the the system is always corrupt enough to give over to the wildest conspiracy theory because they are already like you could say: okay. Well, perhaps you know cuban on conspiracy theories believe some really crazy shit, but then you just go but look at what happened with his Jeffrey steam guy- and I mean there really was this child sex trafficking ring that that was covered up. I mean we have that woman on ABC News who was basis. I broke story and my body having no there was embassy was NBC. we brought the story, but you know they wanted to protect access to the royal family. So we would let a powerful multi, millionaire or billionaire child sex.
trafficking ring leader got escape because we wanted access to the royal family farms that have other video, where the interview word princess and prince, Andrew Jackson, right princess, principally that Ms Generative I'm so sorry, Prince Andrew was on television with that lady in their ask them questions about whether ninety was there and what happened, and he could see this look in his face. Like he's, never really been questioned before his heat, the fact that he agreed to do is so weird like it's almost like. He doesn't understand what a trap is. Look I've never been trapped before I'm a royal is your royal anymore. They took him out somehow I'm not sure I am not sure thing take out the earth they can. They kicked out the other doo doo hooked up with the actress yeah. He he wanted. but I think he left they love to, but he wanted to go back for some little NASA and if it is your turn, wasn't some recent Jamie when there's some weird, which ones
Harry. or is it a potter, my thing Harry Potter and I think you're right. Sorry, I think confusion heritage. Are you think it's fuckin so preposterous that we literally dont know anything that guy's done The prince. Prince Harry, saddened and disappointed that is required. Four remembrance day wreath was denied, oh no, the duke of six status, We spend a lot of time. We were named Sussex there saddened and disappointed at the decision to snub is request for real to be laid out at the National Memorial in Man, the level of suffering must go through to not get. His royal reef did not attend. We wonder why the other outing they let him. decorated war hero, that's prince. Andrews decorated warrior, what did he do? That's news to me: I pressed buttons
that could lead to victory over filling the prince wasn't on the front line just like throwing him he's a he Royal Navy helicopter pilot in the war with Argentina to recapture the Oakland Islands in the nineteen eighties and return as a here. Oh I don't even know there was a war with Argentina that a teenager I remember the Falkland Islands and the name The other smells like bullshit to man of war hero for a second. I may work hero and the royal
I demand a sixteen year old girl. Well- and you say it like that right, we'll see what we can do here. It's just amazing that Epstein guy ropes, so many people in a nutshell, real weird man, it's real weird when something that creepy turns out to be true yeah, and it's very revealing I mean it's like. So if you had an honest press, you know if they warrant every bit as corrupt as those conspiracy theories. Think they are. You would think that the fact that say, like a form, president was on his flight logs would have led to a huge scandal where they would really want to get to the bottom of that. You would think right now. They still want to get to the bottom of that way. Cake who else was involved in this. What is it now? Ok, he was honest, We don't know that. That means that Bill Clinton was involved and in the worst aspects of it, but you would think that the press would at least want to find them now and then not very little interest now, because the price goes after Bill Clinton than Hillary Clinton gets somehow the connected
and then I could think Joe Biden and calmly Harrison. That's bad for the people of Haiti Ultra Robin every. I shant big man to be demolished. Oh my god, look a real estate developer says he's in contracted by the water from the state. this plan to knock down to build a new hope. That's a smart move. Twenty two million- oh shit, yeah That's expensive down there. You miles can be underwater and, like five years, Coronel WAR Grant already left it to a christian group which I was trying to find to China, which one of those two story. This isn't what should journal. Sadly of that over there he left it somewhat. Do you think they just have to knock down just because it is so they can have to do think it be awkward if there was like part of it, they wanted to keep. When I was looking at real estate in boulder the house where the little girl was killed what's the name of the little girl who's in the Jonbenet Ramsey House is been for sale forever. If they can't sell it, I think they even change the address. They might even change the name of the street.
Trying to sell images, can sell, remember we were looking at it like this house's nice was too cheap, toenails deals, and then you find out of FARC, because if you can afford a nice house, you proud prefer not the one that a little girl was killed and nobody wants an azure. Nobody wants without going into the one in New York City so that eighty eight million amateur by moon, the arc of blue the shudderingly art on comes the painting, a bill, Clinton, herds, etc without equipment which we all got streams right? Cia? You don't even you don't even have to get them to watch you on Youtube. They get a thing alive, feed yemeni by that house faggot. Why not It's a probably a really good investment probably worth eighty nine million. Eventually
yeah and there never near some less authority gonna and then, if you try to sell it, it'll be like others was Joe Rogan plays a though it won't have that Epstein. You know stink on it and write a crime. I think, is a good move. I support my guy, see that can make it happen. I wouldn't buy a fuckin new stand in New York City, don't believe in New York City, anymore, Adon? I think that the Plaza guys ruin a place for a solid ten years. Yeah. I think you're right. I think we have the fans on the right some of the cigar. They were Argo double check over its foresail right now, gargantuan near city, mansion home to us. Horse went it thirty thousand dollars a month. That's we need to do lose rent, it could do want the pack. You know we should do. We should fill it up. A homeless people. My leave just rented and just let it let homeless, people live there. Just
Tom. We want one room to do the broadcast and then we'll have security that make sure the homeless people don't go in that room everything. You do whatever you want that now that actually sounds a building block your plan that you're putting into effect that more or less what is gradually in its progressive there you go measure, we did that good I'll give you a freak in the metal, build applause. You employ celebrate you for. Do you notice his real name, I do know that Germany is very, very well guy always aware and really committed to his weird ideology that he wants. You know like too, not just when things get back to normal. They can't get back to the regular normal, it's good,
Be this more, you know, inclusive normal and hit, so he's taken it upon himself that he's going to try to remake New York City in his progressive image. While the city is going through the worst year. It's it's been through in my lifetime. He's an odd duck how he got there. I don't obviously lived there, so I understand it but near city. If its tell me this is true, but I'm pretty sure Jamie that one percent of the people in your city pay fifty percent of taxes. That sounds reasonable up the fact that you could pistols- people often still be mayor is hilarious like how does well. They still only get one vote each, so you know that's kind of the way it works. You I'd ask you what you just said to like it. Really
work that way, which is one person one vote, that's no one has any additional influence at all well know, but I'm just saying that if you can win elections by playing to all the other big to other people and also that you know some of those people kind of like the progressive Rilke it this way. This statistic: it's been bananas, the highest only one percent of New York City read as residents generated forty three percent of the city, income, taxes and fifty one percent of the NEO. State income taxes collected from individuals living the city as of two thousand six, that's crazy, so much money, and then you hear at all this stuff about paying your fair share. Jeers! It's like a wary. Exactly does that come in. Is that not enough what it's like outlay right? It's like a lot of people felt like, even though the taxes soroban it. It was worth it because allay pre cove. It was pretty bad ass. You know the cause restore which for us are calmly centric, but the car restore was opened. The restaurants, restaurants, where amazing, there's so much Many things to do. You know it's just.
adds crowded. You put it. The people cause FARC, it's like there's a lot of good things, and then this is covered it. Everybody was like why we here yeah. Why am I being so much and then start talking about raising taxes to sixteen plus sixteen percent? stay taxes, that's more than I give my agent. Imagine trays well and its. I think that also happened. I think, even more so in New York, because when the you know New York? If the same thing? It's like wild expensive? You pay a ton for your renter or to own or whatever, but you know it's like the best me. I am the better nightlife, the best food, the best all these things, but then all sudden when the lockdown set now people are like lock down in one bed, room apartment that they could get a house for You know anywhere else in the country and a lot of people started to re question. Why am I here and he was there and look real pale?
hello, my friends, it lived there. They would go out very rarely when you see them to build a real sunken end like that is the way. First look for your immune system, United in any vitamin d, you not out there at all. That's the terrible irony of this whole thing right is that it really ended up fucking over so many people's immune systems, because the worst thing you could do like the best thing you could do for covered is is have your immune system. in good shape, and the worst thing you can do for your immune system is like stay inside all day, be in a constant state of anxiety, dont get son, don't get fresh air eat like shit, drink too much. You know everything and have no money right. Zira works only credible, incredible pressure on you, and won't I mean we may never know exactly what the total human cost of all of that was. But whilst will more of a sense of it over the next few years. Yet it's sort of disingenuous argument because their comparing the total cost of the locked to the lost lives because of the pandemic.
The problem is, of there wasn't a locked down the law of lives would be far greater, and so you comparing it to a different thing well, cause. I shouldn't locked down. No one should have ever lockdown, but if they didn't lockdown how many? More people died. It's real good question. No, it's it's very! It's a lot of people like to make this a simplistic calculation and its enormously complicated, want because there's many different variables on both sides, so how many lives were saved by locking down? I think it's fair debatable. I don't really know that it's a true, but I dont claim to know I don't like shore with some, but quite possibly, but then you also have to look just first apples to apples how many lives were cost from the lockdown and I've read stuff as reading the other day about was in England, but I'm sure the same is true here that cancer screenings have like plummeted. Oh you last year, so now, there's gonna be all
of preventable cancers that organic. We won't know this for years if we can ever really trace it back, but a whole bunch of people die from that depend. it has been weigh up. You know. Suicides seem to be going up, there's all these different costs and then, of course, what is the cost, the human cost of destroying people's livelihoods, and it's very very hard to weigh these things out and then, as you pointed out, you'd have to weigh it verse the cost of lives without the lockdown, not necessarily with, but it's it's like with a lot of these other issues. People like to make it a very simplistic. Well, if you want to prevent the virus, you have two before the solution right same with like climate change. If we want to prevent climate change, you gotta before the green new deal, but the truth is that the real answer is like But what is this going to cost? First, what is this gonna cost and which one is worse yet, which is sucks, because you have to think about it's really important to have a lively debate on these things and one of
this is going on. Now is a people trying to shut down debate? They want you to agree with their side, This is something that social media really reinforced right, like social media, ECHO chambers I need be on their side, if you're not on their side, that has hit you with a bunch of shit about why you shouldn't, while you're on the wrong side of history, why you're bad person we're talkin? for the park ass about lists that people are making about people whose port, Donald Trump or people who voted for Donald Trump or people who worked in the administration to making these lists and literally black lists, like they have no irony about suggesting these black lists. Like dear you're, going to Soviet Russia type shit like this is right and meanwhile Joe Biden, saying in his except in speech that China will now is the time to bring every
body together. Know like we all need to be one yadda yadda, which is kind of a nice thought, but it's it's a little hard to take seriously when all of these people in your party and who have been you note supporting you, I've been calling everybody else on the other side. You know white supremacist nazis for for the last four years to now that you claiming you one say: hey, we all have to come together. Meanwhile, other members of your party are saying we gotta create lists, have people so like this The house he said, yeah a pretty influential member very of the Democrats, if she's made herself like huge jumpy president about that she could do it she's, not very popular outside her district. I don't know about that. I think with young people. She represents Like this, this idea that someone like her young, hard working out there, selling seriously progressive values that you can get pretty far certainly in the public eye. Well, you see,
Then we can do what she's doing I mean she's proved that, like you, could go to a very blue district and and primary one of the most establishment, Democrats and and rise to national prominence. So she did that I dont know right now in the country. I think Elsie would have a really tough time getting elected on a national level, but may knows she's only or thirty gets and say yes, so she's lotta time boy. When I was thirty, I was so fuckin stupid kind of amazing, not that stupid now unfairly stupid now, but boy when I was thirty out dumb well actually has a little hyperactive. While everyone does majority. You know bridge fantasy, bridge, Fantasy owes reds of a writing that she wrote when she was twenty force. Like oh, my god, I was basically a yossi she's like I was such a lefty. I was so delusional Now, I'm just so much more of a realist. It I'm my worry about this.
I'd and thing is that people voted for Biden because they hate tromp. They didn't vote for Biden because he's a leader that they respect and they want they admire Like he's gonna leave us out of it like a vote. Bottle was calm for unity if he was, the guy that was the president and he was calling for you We gotta abandoned all these ideas about division, we're altogether and he brought everybody together again that my work that might work people might recognize that this really intelligent die with this message of unity should be listened to, but but that did happen right I mean that happened in two thousand eight, that's what Obama said when you want- and there was some day he's an amount of unity and think he had over seventy percent approval rating. When he first came in I mean it wasn't. Certainly anything like the country is now right, but at the end of eight years of Obama. You had a republican House Republican Senate and dialed fuckin Trump, a London president, so you we had that
but it didn't matter because or even with such a charismatic guy, like Obama, for unity and sang a lot of the right things, at least at first the the policies and what was actually happening in the country were really fucking over huge numbers of people and the and also things that might have been somewhat out of Obama's control, but not completely out, is that the era of it was like, like that, the Obama recovery, which was the most like cronyism, corrupt recovery, and the woke lecturing all rose up at the same time in the Obama years, not all of it his fault, but some of it is Common Harris has heard gender pronouns and biota. Now, oh yeah she's. I saw her say that in a CNN town Hall, when she was still running for president, she came out. I just know uneven Astor she's, where Non Kemal ahead my genders hour. She her what the fuck is going up, no
due to a honest, pompous, wrote now, he rode might my gender is. He ha Is there going to start a trend here are recognised as he high school. I take that I'll. Do it I'll do that here we are like it. It's a very strange strain. It is. It's about the scientist, scientists and journalists. He wrote I reckon direct. I think, though, people like us they, if, if you really did care about what do, unity or whatever, which I think is like something that maybe we should care about a little bit. I mean not that we all have to like on everything on everything. I don't like this, that we don't have to all be one and all have the same. You know attitude about everything, but
When you see what's going on in the country over this year at the culture wash, it is really scary. Unlike people should be appropriately concerned about that, when you see what's going on and like I was going on in Portland this year, when you had like that fuckin, you know like the like militias facing off against each other? Yet, like the antique over the proud boys type shit, like the word, it's like a they're playing pretend civil war yeah. You know like it's kind of a game, the alarming right, but it's kind of not that far off. I have you, no one who got shot and killed yeah and other people on guns staring each other down and for every body for every sane person should be like do not want to see a civil war in this balkan country. I don't care how much fun you think. This is right now, in the moment, you don't want this to actually come to you holding your buddies headway. bleeds out and screams for his mom, like you, don't want that. So the idea of tat that down is is a good idea, but I
the only way to do that is to understand why Donald Trump was president to begin with, and that look to me the big story of all of this, isn't that Joe Biden looks like he's going to be the president, that's kind of boring to me. It's like I can't do it that Joe Biden got elected, he's been getting elected for fucking almost fifty years, like what okay, the story is, Oh that Donald Trump One, the presidency and then it four years later got like me- he more votes than he got the first time an almost by them, but by a head, almost one. It again I mean that's a pretty fuckin crazy, you see when he was in Pennsylvania and he droop fifty three thousand people to israeli in Central Pennsylvania and they start off the first. Like four minutes of it are a chant. We love you, we love you
We like what the fuck is, that what's going on here and to just kind of dismissal at the corporate press attitude is like wild racism, do you think, there's a little bit more failure, the education system I mean I am always. I always agree with failure of the education system. That is always an acceptable answer, but I think a bit rejection of losing its rejection of the world culture, its rejection of it's called a racist and be, he called a fashion as this big parts that it's a lot of the wood this this call, for a radical shift in, The identity of America well that I think, that's a huge part of it. I also think that, if your it, though woke lecturing, is almost like just the insult on top like if you're one of these people who lives in these towns, you you ve seen for for decades now, like factories disappear job.
get outsourced that that the life expectancy has gone down. Suicides have gone up, you know you're, one of these, the some guy Central Pennsylvania were all over the country and what you know you promise. Lost your job. No, you working a shitty or job. You never really came back where you are after two thousand eight you made got a sun whose addicted to opium? other son who, like you know it's, never been the same since he got back from one of these stupid wars. and then after all, that the people who sent you. There are now lecturing you about your white privilege and then Donald Trump. All it really took was Donald Trump came in and said you know what I'm for you I'm for you, I'm not for the Mexicans or the Muslims are not for this works for you, and I want you to win. Like an enemy ballistic message. Sure that's one of things that he got across boil down the whole thing too. make Amerika great again, that's a simplistic message
to people that want a sort of like they really. You know some some country, music songs at both a fan of country music. I, like a lot of countries but a lot of country music. I dont like because I know you're doing you just trying to block everything, in this real simple, word, go down to the lake. We're gonna have ourselves drank. If you know I'm sorry, I'm gonna take my truck everything's gonna be great enormous My grandma like there's like this simplistic, really boiled down worldview and a comforts people, because people scared of new ones and are scared of they're scared of the complexity of light? Yes, and Donald Trump was a master at that now boiling things down to a real, simple, slow slogan, a real dino, simple phrase that that people can wrap their heads rang out behind, but there's also that the opposition to Trump side, where they try to boil things down to like well that
was racism or it with white supremacy, or something like that. Like there's a lot more going on here and I I really think that, if, like them These people on some level recognise that they ve been screwed over by the establishment forgotten by them and that they they are hated by by this. the, which is true. I like they're right about that, and so they were. It's someone to fight for them and I think Trump represents that to them. I don't think he really was that from my perspective, I think it's kind of cod artist, but I do think that he tapped into something that's really powerful and that actually could get a lot worse. If is not some kind of like reconciling with it yeah. How does it get better? Now that's the real question like because what like, how does it get better with Biden and Common Harris mean
Unless people start reject the, unless we realise things aren't changed for the better with them in office. Well, that's. I think that is that realisation, Gonna, come about a year and a half sooner year makes something that, maybe maybe, even sooner because things go, you know things move fast these days, but I do think that it was one of the things that's interesting with Biden in Kampala. Harris. Is that a lot of these like so soon progressive people are celebrating right now because Trump, what was out you know and so Trump was defeated and they feel like they helped get vitamin Kemal here. and which is, they were certainly a portion of helping them, and then from also is the one who is saying like we know bite and he's just a Trojan horse for air Sea and Ill Hano Marty's he's a Trojan horse for socialism, which is actually complete, bullshit Joe Biden. If anything is a Trojan horse for Dick Cheney, don't Joe Biden as a Trojan horse for the establishment bore, hawks, big banks. Corporate elite
tat gentleman. He also known as Cambodia. It's gonna be them. His film is cabinet with republic, but those Republicans, but those Republicans, the ones who basically caused this whole mess to begin. What one of things at the Trump said during his campaign is and talking about how much money that Joe Biden raised. He said I can raise money too, but I'd have to make those deals and then have to be compromised and when it was saying, those like he's right is not wrong. about that now run about that, because if he decided to play ball with all those guys like they would get behind him. that neither the narrative would switched yeah, that's for sure and Anne and it's interesting. It's a really important question that people might wanna like pond are even people who really hate Donald Trump, and you can really hate Donald Trump. That's fine, but you might wonder why it is that the US, abolition, hate him so much, and I have like my
guess is that it's not for the same reasons that your left wing friend hates Donald Trump, like I dont by for a fuckin second, that the the CIA and the republican establishment hated Donald Trump, because he said mean things about Mexicans. I just don't buy it for us Fuckin. Second, these are people who will slaughter brown people in third world countries and lose no sleep over at I by that's why they hated him. I think what they hated about. Donald Trump was that he was a wild man who would blurred out thing? and he blurred out a lot of crazy shit, but the need also blurred out the truth, and that was something that no, you're not supposed to say that, but you went Antwerp was running into thousands sixteen year he stood and the republican primary debate stage in South Carolina Republicans in South Carolina and law, The job Bush in the eyes and said your brother lied us into war in Iraq. and everyone was like what the fuck wit
can't say that at the republic itself careless and all the prudence, all the media class. They were like trumps finish now, cause you can't these are the people thought the war the rack- and these are the most pro military people around and the next day at the primary Donald Trump took. Sixty percent at all the other republic and I'll twelve of them split the other forty percent, a man if he didn't say a lot of the dumb shit. He said, like the shit about Mccain, like I, like people, dont get caught. Imagine he didn't say that imagine say the dumbest shit, the Damas shit that he said. Member thee ghost family family where the con family and yet is where he would it we criticise the family guy about some of forget what the exact it was. They spoke the demon say ran and she started trashing man. Yes, there there died representing his country in war and everybody's Well, you that's it he's he's done. No wasn't! No wasn't majesty didn't do well,
by the way when that happened. I remember just screaming about this. On my Ipod Castro's, I was just like the the response was right and it took him like four days, but eventually he did you get it right where he was just like yeah they, died in a war that Hillary Clinton supported once the risk is this a new one trump suggest gold star families may be to blame for his infection was a second oh yeah they'll. Is that everything thing what we were this is our the that the President, who is Canada. Sport from military members in their family suggests that for a second time the week that that they might have spread corona virus at the White House, although this is different goals, our families, That is the only thing that I would almost say is that a real direct quote the problem. I don't know you. Gotta has New York Times New York Times gone full work. they want to hug me. They want to kiss me and they do frankly I'm not down the back up- I'm not doing it, but I did say it's always a dangerous
all right, then I do not actually landing Mammy am that's not the same thing he's just taught told the truth. See that's the thing to this service quoted they keep. Is that they keep reiterating this thing. He despair, American troops who died in wars as losers in suckers is their dignity, but this saying this in quotes. Yes, because, It was quoted by some anonymous source who claims that he said that you have tat is how do you you, the multiple sources see, but you can say that you can see multiple sources, but unless the people go on record. It seems The very deep,
genuine thing to say: yeah. Well, did you see the one, the guy who was present at my Braun? Oh no you're! Absolutely right! Do you see the guy who revealed his identity? Who was the guy? Who was behind that New York Times store yet and not a high level? Yet none of us is a high level executive, and then there are all these people in the media speculating they were like, while the New York Times wouldn't do that unless this was a really high level person whose basic like wink wink this might be pence. This might be. no jarred cushion. This could be any body sang the shut, and then it turns out. It's like this was like some guy who was once a chief of staff at the Department of Homeland Security. Now I'm not saying it's nothing. but it's not at all what you a kind of making people thanks are, I think, is a very shady waited do journalism. Anna, that's one of the things that I think is like one of the bright spots of the Trump administration. One of the best things that he was able to draw out was how agenda driven the corporate presses and you can agree with their agenda on hating Donald Trump. Maybe that's how you feel, but it still something to
everybody, knows now that they are agenda driven they're, not you like. We just give you the information there activists, yes, that that's the the rise. The activists. Journalists is I understand from their perspective that they feel like they have this platform to do a good thing, but I feel, like you, do the best thing by telling cold hard acts in letting people who are actually advocates or actually advocates the activists rather do the the activists work with those coal heart I have no problem with that. If you want to be an activist goby, an activist yeah, but its budgetary, honest as a journalist, though I think it's very easy, it's real slippery when you do things like that, like like that those quotes losers, suckers Unless you know who said it unless they're willing to go on record and say I heard him say it, then you don't necessarily have a story. Is our aim and were how did he say it? Would it yet? What with a what was the in particular
He denies it. So if you don't like, if I wanted to say oh Joe told me this the right last month and you go, I never said that right. You can't just run with an end quote that you at it because but you're in no way of knowing the ground by the pussy thing. Does you heard it rain, or that without doubt there right so anything else, that's it just so strange I No, I understand their position that they're coming from this place, where they feel like they can do a lot of good. They can change. and they feel countries going into bad direction and they fellow would Donald Trump this country's sliding into this horrible, fascist state and they want to do everything they can to prevent it and they have the green light from all the other. People are there, but, like all this These lessons have been learned in the past. About why it is so important to be totally honest and unbiased in in in terms disseminating information. You have tat kind of do
and then other people are supposed to take that information. They used to say We needed unbiased and have these perspectives and debate both sides. That's supposed to happen The problem is when you get this distorted perception from the media, the very biased, That is not objective at all. It's like you, you're you're, trying to leave. Towards a very particular conclusion that they think is right. They think is a good thing, but when you that then you don't have you have a red like who is the Walter Monday or whose not Walter Monday De Cronkite, who is the who is the biased journalist, who is the one that we trust for information used to be the New York Times the New York Times, like brutally honest about. Basically, everything and now read something in the New York Times like we did. We go out in your time, so yeah, look! That's a wheel! shit. That's happened in the last ten years, but yet less the abbot right well yeah,
it's definitely been like exposed in the last ten years, but I think that truthfully, I think it's kind of a silver lining that at least people are starting to be aware of that, and people are starting to go. like ok. I know that with these institutions are not to be trusted, because, truthfully speaking, they got, you know, it's like. I was saying you before. We started words like four for all the shit that people give Alex Jones. She got all of the biggest stories right over the last twenty years. On that thing, you don't get anything wrong, but really really big things like. Should we go to war in Iraq? Should we bail out bankers should all of this? He called these as lies and corruption right away and the New York Times was selling all of these. I mean they sold the war in Iraq, and so it's to me it's not the worst thing in the world of people at least recognise that these institutions are completely compromise, and I agree with you that there is a role for objective journal.
but I would at least accept if they were like hey, listen. We think like what you just said. We think we have this platform and we need to use this to get Donald Trump, not elected at least be honest with that. Don't bullshit me and tell me what doing, objective news and every single story is about how Donald Trump is you know, needs they don't even address it. They don't say they're doing objective news anymore. They just do their thing, while they call other news fake news, so those New York Times, doesn't well video times may not perhaps being in the corporate press in general. They'll say, like others, fake news out on the internet and even the New York Times has done stories about how social media Companies need to do more to you know: Conrad Fake NEWS on the internet and thence. I bet they're talking about like super hard core q and on type ship aren't they
what kind of I mean it starts with that, and then, though, use that as an example, but then usually they also go to other things. Like look this this, this new posts story about Hunter buttons Laptop, was called fake news from the day it came out to the point that not only would all of the corporate press not report on it that social media companies were banning the Lincoln Twitter froze the New York posts. Twitter account the CNN journalist on Twitter called it russian disinformation. Guess, there's a bunch of people called russian disinformation, a wonderful russian disinformation, the the photo of the girl. Given him, a foot job yes was ashen, there was all she was russian and foot was russian Russian for job what happened to that, I lost track of what was happening with the laptop, but they like
they shared information of revenge. You Leon is sold on Ebay glance. He had made an showing up our seasons landscape. I dont know this. This is willing. That's going on is almost like too much information is coming at us. Well look route! The it's basically been verified that this was hunter violence. Laptop mean with within any reasonable standard fur fer a journalist to them. If something I mean number one. The buttons deny it like nobody. we came out and denied that this was they had to say, nature at the repair shop which they matched up to his signature. It had other people on the email chains confirm that they were. These were Emil's between them and Hunter Biden. So it's been pretty red oblique kind of verified that this was Hunter Biden. Now I don't know about the crazier accusations that were made I mean Rooted Giuliani said that there were pictures of under age, girls and stuff, like that, I don't know. If that's true or not, but really Giuliani did turn it over who's the Delaware police. That is true because the Delaware spoken-
for the attorney general said that they receive the laptop and that they sent it to the the. I know I don't know why they would. He would turn this. proclaiming claiming the stuff was on there and then they would send this to the FBI if there wasn't something, but I don't know I don't. But what you do know right is that this was a story where they had these emails about Hunter bite and who is very clearly a swamp creature who was selling his father there's name to rake in money from foreign companies should be told that's a kind of run of the mill scandal as far as politics, while its normal, at every senators kid family wife, they all do stuff like this all the time it's a corrupt swamp. You know, but it's a story, none the less. It may not be the but tests, but to just make the conscious decision that we are a few weeks out from presidential election? This can harm Biden and therefore we are not mentioning it. We're not covering it. We're not trying to debunk this to a bunch of people. We are trying to make sure people never get their eyes on this
I think that they, the heat, they felt the heat from two thousand. Sixteen the Hillary Clinton emailed debate knowing whether not she should leave those emails and that the fact that call me then opens up the end to again in the middle of the campaign, and that was basically a lot she won the popular vote. Alot of people felt like that was that was a bad move yet and so this year. They said we will do everything we can to get rid of doll from again they became activists instead of just journalists- yeah, that's it Turkey will that's one hundred percent. What happened? I mean they felt in a way that they were responsible for Donald Trump, winning, Ex Hunter binding Associates records, don't show proof of Biden, business relationship amid unanswered questions, some Fox NEWS, while Fox NEWS it has taken a turn. Ladies and gentlemen They are, they seemed
have made a conscious internal decision to not favoured Donald Trump anymore. I dont think foxes was ever that behind Donald Trump I mean there's a few people at Fox NEWS were hard core behind Donald Trump, but as organization I mean remember, they were very hostile to him in the republican primary and he wasn't the Fox news. Guy JEB Bush was the Fox NEWS Guy and he I think a lot of people were very happy, are very happy to get rid of him. Let me see that not a million. This is interesting. I wonder what that means. Hot Hunter Biden, Associates records, dont show, but what is it So they don't just but listen to this x hunter by and associates records, don't show proof of Biden, business relationship amid unanswered questions that doesn't mean much net. What would he claimed was then they're, saying Joe Biden that he couldn't prove Joe Biden was it's a very confusing title because he claimed that he had met?
Joe Biden and Joe Biden was aware of all the dealings that that Hunter was doing. Here is Fox news. Has field, email, reviewed emails from that name bubbling scheme related to the venture, and they don't show that the elder Biden had business dealings yeah but see I can that's. That's weird like you know we can say that Jamie is my business associate right and if I, I'm involved in some shady shit and Jane. He doesn't know about and Jamie in our emailing back before they get into Jamie's emails and they say Ex Joe organs. Business associates doesn't show any association making the claim is that this is the evidence, is the emails that their life, where we found some emails, name, they'll, say this and now their set the fuck we're in a Fox news alike. That does that's not what this right, but the emails to who is it too? that guy because if it's not too that guy than this is not relative and then the playing games with words, I got it
have to read what exactly there saying, what exactly he sang part of the problem of I've looked a couple times: that's what sort of looking again where nor my this shit's leaked Melick, when, although celebrities got their fucking Icloud sleeked, all those pictures had the internet instantly and you could find them all over the place. These emails are like barely been seen by. I feel like anybody. Will these emails glorifies or I believe he turn these over the FBI. So I don't know if you know where they would leave from not to say that they couldn't leak, but I think that the point of this article is that what he claimed with his bottle in ski guy claimed, was that Joe Biden himself was very involved in all the business deals that are that Hunter and him we're doing and that his team couldn't prove that, because they, you know the thing was they said they had these references to like the big guy and stuff like that, but that they couldn't prove that that that Joe Biden knew about this, but he's claiming whether this is true or not. He is claiming that he's
met Joe Biden several times and they ve talked about it and Joe Biden was well aware of what Hunter button was doing and where it was making money from and I think it's kind of run of the mill political scandal that act that aspect of it. The bigger things like that this goes on all over the place. Right I mean all over the fuckin place like that that the conflicts of interest, the corruption, We see where Obama, you know what was spoke after his president. We get like four hundred thousand dollars or something like that moves beach and from the bankers and he was the guy who, like presided over the bank, bail out, and then you get out. That's like yours, for what the bankers really is. One of the sheer Brok Obama's be any good speaker, but come on man like What's going on, I will you got a lot of those two, oh yeah, so bill tonnes about that's where they make the Balkan their money right when they get out of the office than they do these speeches, which is kind of where a Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton, I believe the ball partners they left the White House they were like network was, four million dollars, and then it was like well over a hundred million dollars bite.
Sixteen, so they made a lot of money after we just later today. You plan sale of thirty five fighter Jesse you I and twenty billion our arms deal. Trop administration there saying I was rendered Edison is making a bunch of deals known as well. sure that a plan to sell fifty advanced at thirty five fighters to the United Arab Emirates as part of a broader arms deal worth more than twenty three billion. That's the weird about someone on the way out. They can do so. I don't know that his unhampered hurry, he's U nothing's anywhere, but here is out. These almost certainly not way out of a he's, gonna fight and yeah. But do you know how insanely difficult it is to prove first, while to prove that there is a vote of fraud? and then the proof is enough voter fraud where they can overturn it. It's it's incredibly difficult and it's not just that he would have to do that. He'd have to do that in a few different
states, and so it's an incredibly difficult task, but it's pretty interesting. This is, unlike anything, I've ever seen before, where you have one president you're saying like know, this was bullshit new phenomena, fight it legally and another thing that I thought was really weird from the press is that they see there I saw twice now was on MSNBC and CNN, where she was giving a press conference talent, saying how the votes were stolen from him, and the system was unfair. and they cut away, they say we will not show this because he's lying and then the other day on Fox NEWS. Neil Cavuto, cut away from Trumps press secretary saying there was fraud and he goes well. You know we can't verify that, so we can't air this honours and dislike. Look man whatever you want to say. This is a story by the fact that the President is claiming voter fraud is a story so air this and then debunk it afterward. But what is this thing? We're
No, we won't show people right. You can't see this story one because the lies could poison you or something I want. If its proved to be true, one of their is voted frog Weather is it's a question of how widespread it s, because there's always voter fraud, which is another secret that they don't fuckin like to tell? But there's always fuckin some degree of voting, for I find it odd that everybody insisted it's impossible to vote like the safely and accurately online. Yes, I find that I'd. I also find it really really odd that we overhauled the way we do voting. This country and that now it's almost entirely different process where both candidates are way more votes than they would norm, we get and it's just very weird- there were a lot of them
that we're weird about this election, like the actual logistics of it, doesn't seem like. If we can bank online, we should be able to vote online. It doesn't. It seem like if you could use like apple pay or Samsung pay, or something like that and go buy something. You know you use your fingerprint and it registers your fingerprint and then you could you can house Fischer. For I mean if I mean how much you spend an apple pay, does never limiting it's not about like that. It's these for everyone. Now everybody has that access I didn't mean that everyone get together like the head of the day of the elections, there were spoken where I'm from Columbus Franklin Counter. There are supposed to have a registration, be ipods or some bright in that morning. They were not confident that everything got downloads. grab. The whole thing went back to paper like that day, so it is also a problem with these weird deadlines like we have to choose a leader in the free
world and twenty hours ready go like lots, is so big, important thing to really? What a boils down to twenty hours? Which of the whole process, is fuckin retard? You the whole thing about it. The whole thing that it's like, so we that this system is that we have to basically like ten thousand votes in wisconsin- is going to determine which half of the country is the areas in which half is like elated, because they get to rule over the other half now and then, hopefully, in four years, they can be happy in year miserable because they get to rule over. You know it's so bizarre stem precisely in general, is a very bizarre process to have it in a country this big with this powerful of a government. It makes it insane like that word we're going to determine the course of history based off what few votes in swing states determine there's gotta, be a better way. I was reading this thing about. Plato sees me about Socrates, Socrates,
was. He was talking about how he didn't like the idea of democracy, because Socrates felt like in order to make really important choices. You should almost have to prove your understanding of these issues and at this, if it wasn't me, Kay, em pressure, Socrates, look with that uplifting take distinctly what's about because he He saw the prattling what we basically have like this a lot of people that were on the ballot in California. I, what is this guy doing? What does he want? I don't know much about them here. That's all right. Look this thing for for an hour right of an hour to go and then can google some of these these bills right. and that's just me how many people didn't I mean I gave a very cursory review.
Of these ideas. How many people didn't at all is well blue, while across the board or read across the board? Oh yeah, there's a majority just guessing? But I'd say the majority of people just vote their team and just don't even really look into that. Much mockery, was never democracy was kind of considered like a joke. before World war, one dead, the idea I mean they're there weren't too many like functioning democracies, and that I think that all changed with Like Woodrow Wilson, we're gonna, make the world safer. Denmark see we're gonna overthrow all of these monarchs in Europe, which Europe was mostly monarchs at the time and they and that ended, and then after that you had the rise of like Lenin and Hitler. Later Stalin, and you know things that were much worse than the monarchy is that they they replace, but just in pure philosophy, like the idea that, if fifty one percent of people vote for something
or some body that then it's completely morally legitimate for them to rule over the other forty nine percent is do is completely absurd. But what's that that was the alternative. Well, I mean look, I think, from fifty Turning to all of this is liberty, which has the best answer, which is just basically that whether its democratic power says or not that the government should be, so much more reduced. The power should be so much more reduced than what it is now that it's not that consequential, who gets in there because they're not wielding that much power, and as long as you have em in the this is the major source of the culture war to begin with, even before the social media stuff and before the Woke Lex, the major sources that the government is so powerful that you have to fight. For your side to be in control of it. Otherwise, your ruled over by the side who you hate, and it's that this is in less the only way forward that would solve this problem that woods defuse the
Culture war is accepting some type of libertarianism and I just mean by that is just some whatever exactly. It is some thing that says: ok, listen, you have these cultural views in Portland and you have these cultural views Alabama you're, not gonna remake each other. You guys with the way you want to live, and you guys can lead the way you want to live and you can peacefully coexist the idea that you you have to have this far. six trillion dollar a year. Beast, that's controlled I one side or another that hate each other is just going to keep this thing going in getting hotter and hotter yeah, and then you have these ideological positions that these huge, Corporations attach themselves to decipher money off of right. You know there's
Evan Havre, his owner of black rifle coffee and he was on and he was in his veteran and it now runs as huge coffee business in was discussing what He thinks is really going on with Afghanistan. His eye there's no reason for us to be over there. He goes, I think, they're over there to suck money out of taxpayers and that's what they're doing and when tromp was interviewing, urge rather Steve Hilton was interviewing Trump I've known steel, even for a long time than the next revolution. Yeah yeah media is good. It he's very Nice guy, I was friends with them long before he was ever Fox news. I met. I am in Maui, oh yeah, on the beach the kids are play with MIKE is my real little and we became friends and we ve gone vacations together, unknown burlesque, oh by the way, I know the exact interview that you're talking about. I was one of the craziest things I've ever seen when he's and about the military industrial complex regret. We get away we were they want to go to work. Not doing that.
rail complex. It real has in our warnings about it. This is the thing by the way that moment. This is why the establishment hates Donald Trump so mother, because he is uncontrollable and he might just blurred out sitting down outside the White House with Steve Hilton that, oh you know what there's a whole bunch of people around me who want to go to war, because it makes them billions. of dollars Ban- and this is like an end. This is just the President commander in chief saying now, on the other side trump didn't end any of these wars. He kept talking about doing it and indeed, always back out at the last minute. I do think that as well. You know, I don't know, actually, but I know that when heat, whenever he would make a move to try to end of these wars, the press would go nuts. Circling him. I mean they always were, but they dial it up like like eleven and then he'd have people within. His administration undermine bring him at every turn at every turn. I remember back
was? I was a contributor SE, S CUP show she's a show on CNN as a contributor, therefore like a year and dumb There was one time where it was Donald Trump came out and said that we're getting out of Syria and he goes look out we go in Syria is to defeat ISIS. That's all we care about and that their almost defeated as soon as their defeated were getting out completely out of Syria and then about a week later, mcmasters. Put out this statement where he was saying these are our goals in Syria and one of them was regime change to over RO, Bashar, Al Assad, and then he gets fired like a week after that, and they are take. It CNN was kind of like well, isn't this rate that at least one of the adults in the room is No, no, no Donald Trump. This is what we're doing in Syria, we're having another regime change, and I was like losing my shit like we hold on. However, feel about this here, The commander, in chief secretary of
date doesn't get to decide. No word were fighting a war earnest, Others receive help Sonia. He was particularly orange that they want to keep it that way. You have people here, what does she want if they never want to leave? I say you know what I'll do I'll leave a couple hundred soldiers behind, but if it was up to them, They bring thousands of soldiers and someday people will explain why you do have you do have a group and they call it the military industrial complex Wanna leave they always what? If I know I don't want to fight, but you do have situations like around you can't let them have nuclear weapons, can't. Let that have a friend of mine today was talking about the art of the deal on a red. The deal was he was in rehab when it was in rehab have had a lot of time and he read the art of the deal he's like its remarkably progressive, even by today, stamp is like here he this in, like the 80s Donald Trump,
Never that I mean got laws older, The problem is the they owe, whelm anything good about em where it like you get these flaws. like the bragging in the craziness, and they did not telling the truth about things and the the the tricky thing with Trump is that if it wasn't for these character flaws were these qualities that are partly you know, have these character plus he'd never be the present? but then once he becomes president you're like man, I wish you could just plug up these couple holes and keep saying oh shit like that rights. That would be really awesome. We really do need a guy who's taking on the military. Industrial complex and pushing to end these wars and exposing a lot of the corruption, but also the other problem, is that This was never really what animated trump, but that the problem is that with Donald Trump. I think that a lot of the Trump Haters project this this thing onto Donald Trump, like he's literally Hitler Alot of the Trump Low
furs project. This thing unto him like he's our saviour, but the reality is it's just what you say he's just that he's the guy who he is. He's a shower who thinker, as he seems, his instinctively brilliant, but in turn into Actually he really just cares about being the boy Last I won. I was terrific. Everybody knows that you know that, and so I think served him well. His whole life sure has the idea that all the sudden he becomes president is going to ban of that become presidential. No, it's not going to happen, but anyone who was a decent gentleman or like didn't have those qualities would never have gotten to where he was he got to where he was because he willing to say like he got to where he was in large part, because he had a quality that Bernie Sanders didn't have about him Bernie Sanders is entirely to nice of a guy to lead a revolution, as he would only. We're, leaving a revolution and then you'd have job and who's the epitome of the system that you want.
Revolt against and it got book Joseph decent guy he's my front I'm not going say anything bad about him nearly well. Your product can elite. Fuckin revolution if you're not willing to lab some insults way, I'm asking you to love bullets, but like you don't know it. Will you don't? Do you have to leave? You have to at least attack what he standard, harnessing after com, a fat loser thing you have to go like you have to go. Listen you! Are the epitome of Washington, corruption youve in it's your own family, while you're getting other people killed, while you're selling out the country. Yes, I think you have to go for the juggler if you're actually gonna beat this system this strange, though, that you have to do that, you can't do you can't just a spouse merits of your own ideas. Well, you have to attack, but you know if you're, a real human being right Let's say what Donald Trump was just saying and by the way Bernie Sanders. Pretty much agrees with him on that he's talked about how war is big. Business
and how they Lena, we were light into the war in Iraq and HEAT voted Bernie Sanders to his credit is one a very few democrats in the Senate who voted against the war in Iraq. At the time. Very few Democrats in the Senate didn't like actually stood there ground and good for him for doing that, but you're talking about people lying to get real human being slaughtered that to make people money, I mean, if you talk about that, and you don't have some type of outrage about it, That just doesn't seem to make sense to me, like that's, not how a real human being should feel night, understand, but I wonder if, like in the middle of that, when you're you're insulting people here perpetuate your keeping going this. This sort of system that's been, place for so long. Were you run you talk about your mom, It's you shit on the flaws of your opponent. He does the same to you. Whoever lead and the most blows winds. I mean this is
I, by the way calmly, Harris's, like Sir, talked about her debate with with Biden right when, when shoes uncle bear just like it was a debate, it was a debate, but it's like That's the only way to do it is the only way to do it to shed on the other person. I think that you have to live I think there's nothing wrong with really running on your ideas, and I think that part Bernie Sanders dead. You know, and I I don't like a lot of Bernie Sanders ideas. I think he's got some that are really good, which ones do you like? Well, okay, what I love about Bernie Sanders is that he voted against the war in Iraq is, I just said she was great in the Senate about the war in Yemen and trying to bring that to an end, which is just a god, awful nightmare that still going on that Obama started and and Trump continued, I mean what's happening in yemen- is like one of the
is tragedies in in words my table. So Yemen is, I mean Yemen is the poorest country in the Middle EAST, which is saying something you know they were already the poorest country in the Middle EAST before any of this happened and the Saudis basically went to war with with the who, these in Yemen and America backed the Saudis under Brok, Obama would bought o bomber administrations had to placate. This out is basically they. The Saudis were pissed off about a lot of things. and there are big business partner with us, and so they were pissed off about the war. In Iraq, the Saudis didn't want the war in Iraq foresaw what would happen that it would give around control of the region and it would be a nightmare, but the chain, it's really wanted the worn rack. Israel really wanted the war in Iraq and the NEO cons one and they got the war, and so they were already passed.
Off about that, and then they were really pissed off. That Obama made the around deal with around and so to up to placate, which I believe is the direct quote to placate. The Saudis. Obama decided to back them in this war against Yemen and they put a full blockade around the country, which was all right the poorest country in in the Middle EAST, and this led to just two Zack I mean the. U N said it was the worst humanitarian crisis in the world. I this was before covert, but I think it still probably up there they were. There were well over a million cases of cholera, which is basically I mean curable with. I think liquids like I think Gatorade could solve Colorado. You might need antibiotics or something like that, but it was, children and old people just dying in massive numbers. I still don't think they know the exact numbers. It's gonna be somewhere scale of what the war in Iraq was. Hundreds of thousands of people dead and Bernie
Anders really lead the effort to try to end in the Senate. Who did a great job on that like phenomenal? He also a great. He had a great bill proposed to our decriminalize marijuana on a federal level, which I think would be phenomenal. It's all over the World Several things like those are probably the ones I pack than I thought were really great about Bernie Sanders. So I think, running on issue might probably one of my big criticisms is that he doesn't. He doesn't really lead with those issues like in those are the things he talked about. A lot campaign trail, but he was excellent on all of those, so I think you could run he could run on his principles. You know, but I think You have to, at some point, have a little bit of a killer instinct to to become alpha monkey to become the leader of this country, and I thought that Bernie Sanders could have won the whole election with the tone that he started in the primary and he didn't and I think that Bernie Sanders like look. The corporate press completely came down to try to
who in it for him, who knows what the Dnc did this time I mean it was exposed in two thousand. Sixteen who knows what they were doing behind the scenes will win out there. Don't we other, does. The reason why closure and Buddha Judge dropped out will that we now know that worn and stayed in the safe and votes off a burning. Odin was now they gave their delicate over to Bonn no question. We know that much. We know that right now we don't know exactly who made the phone calls. I think there is reporting that Barack Obama had called a couple of them out of it. That's yes, is sure to us, but so that but you're right, so all the petition, with Biden drops out right before Super Tuesday Bernie Sanders Competition, Elizabeth, worn stays until the bitter end think it felt like with Bernie, even though there is talk that they couldn't control them right. There's also talk, he couldn't win Khazars. Certain key states that he's never gonna win because, even though that message resonated with a lot of people, including me, would resonate with me is first ball absolving pizza people, student debt. I know a lot of people that are wrapped up in student debt and I think it's why.
of the best examples of first of all, you have essentially children you have somewhat of seventeen eighteen years old, the Goin in school and they're. Taking on enormous debt- and they don't- I Think you can make the real argument that they don't have the intellectual capacity to understand the ramifications of this, maybe I'm do maybe some don't, but when you're talking about people that are in debt, hundreds of thousands, of dollars by the time they get out of school, and then they get out of school and they get a job. The base for to grant a year do the math. How long before you catch up ever catch up. There's people too, the day that are getting social security that are given their so security docked, because they owe money, for student loans mean you're at the end of the fuck and gangs. People of their old enough for social security. Yes loaned outside, while oh yeah, that's going on right now who may trust sounds really go. That's a pretty sure it's troop! Well, then, and they all, but in terms of a corrupt scheme, yeah sure it's it well, it's vat system,
I think we have all this money to go to Afghanistan and put on these endless wars. The idea tat. We Don't have enough money to provide a reasonably priced education, I'm not saying should be free. Maybe she got us a little bit because I think people work harder when they have to work for something but the idea that you should be hundreds of thousands of dollars and debt by the time you get out and in reality of the economy? Is that even four covert. If you got out the odds of you getting a job, that's like gonna be able to even put a dent in that debt in your chosen fields. Are not that good. Go you of that question about here at night deeper centres, so security payments can be garnish to repay a student loans that your monthly benefit. Saint below seventy well, ok, good luck, living on seven hundred fifty bucks and thus also for people who are what, like thirty five now when they retire limits, lack and so on that this month, how long a man, if you think about someone sixty five right so once once now, look at this hour student,
forgiven. After sixty five, there are no student loans. Forgiveness programmes, specifically for senior citizens elder, he stood alone. Borrowers are eligible for the same loan forgiveness programmes as other borrowers. That's crazy! easy. It's crazy, you're that old and you're on a fixed income. You really can physically. Work anymore and we don't know if we're community right in this is one of the things I think about the United States, the idea of a country where supposed to be a community. even though we're broken off of these countries than broken off these cities. We broke it off ideologies were separated by all these different lines and sands. We draw at the end the day we are contributing to this pool and put our tax hours in or deciding what's important ones, not from me student loans.
given. This was a big thing. Doesn't like we ve got to stop this cycle of fucking people over economically. When are eighty years old, I sense fair enough, but I just think that if it like, I agree with the spirit of everything you're saying, and I think when I do when I said it's a corrupt system, it's just that the fact that you have all of these parties involved where you have like the government whose guaranteeing all they student loans and then you have for a while. I think now it's all done straight from the federal government for a while. You have these financial companies that are given. at the loans and then taking in the interest and profiting off the buggy, and then you have these universities who work able to raise their there to wish and over and over and there's always a market for it, because the loans are guaranteed by the governments of their just. So now you have all these people just raking in money and the politicians get to brag about all these kids going to college and then, whose fucked the seventeen eighteen year old, who was told their whole life that just just take
loan at whatever you gotta ducas. This leads to a better life and then the jobs aren't there for them. So those but the problem at if you want break this cycle. The problem is the Government guaranteeing the loans to begin what right, because this is not a let yet so as this is why college inflates faster than almost, other price in the market, and so I would just think even if we are going to forgive the loans that are out there now. What you need to do is stop the loans cut them off and let the prices of college come back to something that more reasonable, like they were in, like our parents generation, where you could work or summer job and pay off your college, and then you ve also got a very interesting such We in college, where most professors are left, leaning and me, of this shit, your unit learning is useless. I not all that but a whole lot of nerve. That's necessarily the case, but some of its gonna be useless, but let's not concentrate on that, because you're supposed to be expanding your horizons and theirs,
their social growth being outside of your family for the first time. This is also what you can do that in lots of ways than spending a hundred grand Jago get drunk at a frat party in Flanders, but how many of those ways inshore and actual competition. How many those ways ensure that you're gonna get together with other students, and you gonna debate things you gonna discuss. Shoes, you gonna, learn things going gonna talk amongst yourselves, you going to also all be forced to take he's rigorous courses that demand a lot of you, intellectually, It's very why I like that in theory, I just don't know how much that's happening in universities, but I get your portal, which agrees the only place where it's happening sure for eighteen year, old trust makes I barely to spend any time in college, Atomic College was three years you Mass Boston and barely paying attention. So these p, pull that are teaching these kids over. well, mainly lean left. Now, not saying that they shouldn't lean left. If you
how you feel you should express yourself, but it is really in a country that thrives on this concept of diversity, that there's almost no diversity and in the intellectual ideologies that these professor Savior what are the numbers of professors in this country. What percentage of professors identifies marxists? Let's say? Yes, I would say ominous aids in the twenties yeah probably get something, that, but then there is also identifying as marxist and then there's like being influenced browser like postmodernism yeah, we're going as far as we can. This is a modest, thus far left as we can get right, yeah it might be under twenty percent, I'm not sure, but it's a it's a, but we can agree that it's a really far left stance to Morrow. Yes, it's pretty reviling so, but I'm saying like what percentage again, if I the hardest of hard left very close, what is it article it says about
eighteen percent of social sciences. In the. U S self identifies marxist. over that social sire I typed in the sectors that says professors in the top but yeah, because if you're talking about professors and like other harder sciences, yeah yeah, division of social scientists, ok, but that still an internet, that's a large number and that's a large number of people that are teaching like you know the critical race theory and gin theory- and it is a little different right so that all the woke shit comes from right and this is really destructive, where he kids go only Five percent, who identifies conservative, isn't that up seems crazy? You ve got eighteen percent Marxist five percent conservative. Eighty I panel discussion was out and tat. Is he like titled clothed people asked the clause minded campus, the stifling of ideas and american universities, but it's what those things where it's like. What is most appealing to young kids, compassion,
what happens to people when they get older realism? What happens? the people when they get older and then their worried about their physical health and then conservativism mean is like that's one of the reasons why conservativism uneven- and you know you libertarianism- that when you think about it. When you do this sort of like real narrow minded view of what that means to people for a lot of people, it means cruelty and means lack of compassion means is like blind faith in capitalism and competition, and that's one of things of freaks out young people, because young people as they enter into the world and they start learning things they leave their parents LA times. First of all, they feel press by the parents they feel like the parents who problem we work really hard nor to get him to go to school, to be able to afford their school. I worked really hard in order to keep the family together. Just in terms of
the motto money you have to have to have a house in two cars and live. American pay taxes and send you, kids, the college like Damn you gotta work, you got you fucking have to work, and so, if you're a kid, and you ve lived off your parents and then you here and all this like hard core shit like you know that parents want they want you to be successful. Doing Jesus Christ leave me alone. Then you get to schooling. drop acid marxism. When you learn about socialism like we can just get together, we can just pull all our money together and we can it be fine, and you know there was a discussion who is it that was was on shall, I think it was can somebody- and they were talking about the early days of the United States and in the early is the United States with wheat production the initial ideas, whether they're gonna pool all the all the food together. I think this was actually pre. United states that things in the galleries rank your, I think, you're right and then
They realized horrifying, really really quickly that this didn't work and they go get it scrap that what you grow you eat Oh shit, I've got to go to work and then people started bus nor ass, there's a diffusion of diffusion of responsibility that comes from this, dear that you are in individual and that the government should provide for you, There are so many people in this country in this, so much money. Look at all the trillions they spend on military look at other trillions, they spend on infrastructure a trillions they give to the fossil fuel industry in August. They start running all these numbers, they go. Why can't the gun, take care of everybody wire. Well- and that is one of the like- my position is based with Government- should do any of this shit and we don't have the money for any of IRAN. We shouldn't rob it from people, but there it is strong argument from like an arrow see type. Yes, where they'll be like a well. We don't have this money and she can go about every time.
You right, wingers, wanna war. You always find the money for where I was gonna, see of young people who do these idealistic perspectives like air sea and then they through the university system and their taught this by people entered the real world right these people, this day and academia, they d, they learn, They grow. They they become professors they get ten year this there there- and this is this- is their world and in their world they shape young minds and they ship shape young minds who are already open to these ideas of compassion and of being different in their fuckin parents or so hard, or we apparently to feed you. U Fox, he plans out their grinding little bit of gratitude, its relevant again hard it's hard to get by, it's hard. No, so I get. I completely get what you're saying, but the other thing about you know which I guess just concerns me a little bit about abolishing you, know, student debtor forgiving student
is that will number one? The first thing I said is that it's like well, ok, if we don't get the system fixed, then forgive this debt and then keep perpetuating more people in debt. So something still needs to be done there, but the problem is so that, like you know, if we it, when you say forgive debt, were you have that the taxpayer pick any of this stuff up? It's just coming from other people. It's your your taxing working people to pay for this, something but there's something, but why does it have to be that way? The government already subsidized rightly have right. So what what? If they didn't do that, but it went there was a way to figure out. Like a reasonable solution to. how professors are paid, how students pay further education. What is is a reasonable solely. I was profitable I'd. I'd be all for that. If there was arrested evolution, I think so, but I think basically, the solution is to just get the government out of the business of higher education if there are higher, if there are institutions of higher education that are provided,
enough value for people like you come here, you're gonna, be way better in life and that scene than people are going to want to send their kids. They are ok, let them let them survive on their own. But what about Canada? What about the UK went about places that pay for education? yeah. I mean there are not like other countries that do that, and and ok fair enough like that there I mean, I don't know enough about the canadian University system, but I'll tell you this. They have just as big a problem with what you are talking about. Colleagues, the workshop, maybe even more maybe even more whether we hesitate awoke yeah Zat Present is a king right, I believe the Prime Minister's a king. I might you know Jane. You said it is true, King brown face. Do you think it's? I also think that you know wolf shouldn't is really that it's really something that has really gripped the country in an interesting way, over the land, it's not just that the the colleges are like teaching at, like that's almost like the the centre of at all, like critic
race theory in some university yeah, but then you see how much it's been jumped onto by like by all the big corporations, politics they're all behind what does one common Harris routes, states or gender prone? Oh yeah, yeah. It's it's in Why do you wonder confabulate capitulating to do the work culture right? But it's interesting like do you I wonder often times, and I guess there's I don't know how many of us like with like real woke. True believers will ever listened to anything that I'm her on, like even as big as the show is like they would just be furious by everything you say the way you just drank your glasses, like rats, white supremacy or whenever you know like they will mean by my very existence. Yes yeah, I'm all a white male rich guy. With regard does cage waiting commentary? That's very problem, not a problem seems very automatic, but do you,
wonder like from even from their perspective, which is hard to get into, but to the artistic. If you're like out there and you like, ok black lives matter and like of the hard core like woke twenty year old friend like and there like. I'm against this system, because this them is white supremacy, ran right, and then you realize that of Hollywood agrees with you and all of academia agrees with you, and J P Morgan Chase is running like a black lives matter ads and an come Allah Harris. The vice President Elect agrees with you and I, and how it Hence the system are you relay If the entire system is supporting what you're doing and what why the whole system is based on white supremacy and you're here to call that out. Why would they system not be reacting to crush you. Why would they be like propping you up for the system? Is some malleable railway system recognizes trends in a week, profit off this trend,
What we need is a black live matter masks, but I think it's more than just profiting off of it. Like my my theory on it is that this is the ultimate divide and conquer and protect yours, our strategy. So you see how much that look? They don't want true economic leftism, that's what Bernie Sanders represented, and you saw how much the corporate press freaked out when it looked like he might have a shot at winning, they are called. Supporters, Nazis and shit like that, like they were given him, the trunk treatment of the jewish guy who's, the closest to ever being president any Jews ever been as all the sudden represents a Nazi take over, but they freaked out in August. you were saying about having the other candidates drop out in that, Bernie Sanders was unacceptable to them. They don't like that brand of left wing ideology. They love the workshop because the woke shit allows them to give up nothing. But like J P, Morgan chases, like fine, we'll send our white execs to diversity, training good deal
now. Are we call with the left now? Like that's fine, we'll the black lives matter, flag up, no problem there find with gestures, but Bernie Sanders is like your money want your shit. I want your profits. no more making but like Bernie Sanders is that you know that if some like social this warriors, like you know We have a problem with micro, aggressions and toxic masculinity. Jamie Morgan, chases, like no problem, that's great Bernie Sanders is like there shouldn't a billion hours I know about that guy, magazine like you could be trouble. You know what I mean, so they know likely economic popular stuff because they ve got a nice. Little system worked out here where their raping the country that the Fuckin big bank system that they have worked out right now is the Federal Reserve, prince money out of thin air lens. It to them at zero percent interest
they lend it out to the rest of us at interest, so they just get money for free and then lend it out and collect the interest. it's a sweeter spoken deal. If I were them, I'd want to talk about micro aggressions to do you know. The real problem in our society is just fuckin micro aggressions am I right. That's can everybody over, supremacy they they consciously like, recognise these trends and say we gotta get on board with this, and this will help us, because will be one of the good guys will be, will be of a company. It is very difficult to criticise- I think there is, I think, there's a lot of forces at work, but I think that's a big part of it. I think ass. They also realise that, like I think there are people, it's like this kind of it's like an alliance between the top and bottom, so there's like the twenty year old who works for some company. Maybe some internet me
extreme in company. I don't know you know some some company out there's some twenty year old, woke person, who is a true believe, are a true believer in the Woke stuff, and then there is the J p organ chase, Khumalo Heresies of the world. They don't believe this for a guy. I am second just em a ploy, it's just a tactic and so they're kind of playing off of these people. But my thing is that, like to the bleeding heart young woke, so justice warrior types is like look. There is a need for you in society. There is a need for like a compassionate left, who is willing to protest, shit and shut shit down but you're focused on all the wrong areas is not about fuck, forget micro, aggression, for it think about real aggressions, we're still and all the longest wars in american history but protest get out on the streets about Fucking Yemen joy to end that war, isn't that it almost, but there's too many things going on and then those things are
a site there in another place the unit you never can visit. We have to think a little bit about but why is it that, and maybe it's I dont like- have an answer. This is like a leading question like, but why is it that, like the Vietnam WAR could draw so many pro has that the war in Iraq under George W Bush Drouet, so many protests so like. Why can't why? trumps wars, never like a thing. I think the press covers them differently today than they did during the Vietnam error. Now think. That's it I think the press during the Vietnam era was very much to press the ideal view of the press by closer much yeah. They think it's been changed. First of all, there there's a bunch of factors that happened almost together. they coincide. One of them is the advent of social media and the internet in general, and there, how people are no longer digest seeing their news through paper there not paying for a newspaper they're getting it.
Therefore in here and now in competition with buzz feed and vice- and you know name it. There's. so many choices, there's two vocs in theirs. There's almost too many different played. The blaze is reckoned. He just keep going on this too many different places. We can go to get information, so if Website is common, with the New York Times. The New York Times now has to do something in order to get your attention. So what do they do that they do, in least at least they don't do click baby stuff. They do provocative things. They d, gear, their attention towards things they nor gonna get clicks are starving their literally fighting for survival, whether its washed imposed or even the Wall Street Journal. I think a lot These newspapers are experiencing significant. One thing that led to a big increase peace in the new posts subscribers, ironically tromp right, trumps, shitting on them caught the failing New York Times, products that yesterday at a trump TK.
The fact that we are failing New York Times they started there. There subscriptions went up well. This is- and this is true all over the place with corporate media entities that were dying and has also four MSNBC and CNN, and a lot of em all saw rating surges short against people wanted to combat trompe l a lot of em. It became the number one focus because of it bleeds it leads like that's. These are the really exciting things that people are gonna tune into, and it's gonna help our revenue stream. So our ideas, Is that the reason why the showing us the news, these the most significant stories that giving impact your life the most? This is what most important, not The case will really is as what's gonna get the most attention. What's the most important in terms of like what's gonna get the most view whose which is gonna bring in the most advertising revenue and for people online that writing stories. It's that didn't caught click date for reasons of that they do rather call click bake for reason that the reason is its: they got a trick. You Can that things as they make their money? Would there we ve
created this rep, so then they ve tried subscription models and I subscribe to the times I subscribe to the washed imposed, as described like four five different publications, and I felt like an obligation to do that, I'm getting my news from them. A figure should give him some money and that, my the only way these things ever survive is that people get their news via subscription model. But to this day seminal send me a link and click. The link I'll say to subscribe among, ah fuck you and then out of it, I will read it. And then a Google. It and try to find somewhere else yet that works about fifty percent of its yeah. Just Google, the title you should be able to just pay for an article like: maybe I'll pay you five cents for this article. Let me get in double click. Did it like the doomed to make me subscribe every time. I understand that these journalists and their do an amazing work and that they ve wait work for weeks on this
suppose I- and this has been the sole focus of her life and its valuable and its valuable to me- it's valuable to the United States as a whole, because this one person's intellectual, perspective on a very complex subject. They boil this down for weeks and weeks hear this, We ve learned about exe those are important. Sure I'll give you a couple bucks up the tooth but make it Blocking easy? we subscribe and give you my email address, and I get a just make me go to Michael, I gotta give you two dollars yet, as you say that surprising, they haven't figured that all our closer apple has, but it's not quite right. Second, between what you talk, I have that to have that, but it still does not, which is what there's somebody creating it It is a little you know exactly exactly I mean I would like to be able to go to each individual front page, and I think that we have time for that. I think the thing you were mentioning earlier about who you trust is is like a
bigger factor than ever before. You know, I trust who online people, please would you know three Jimmy door. People a colleague, loves you, your yeah people like the What do you do crystal soccer? I like them too, like that their shows great drum, but you know it so it's like and by the way and the best is like Glenn Greenwell gas had unreality like he's, and you know where he stamped on abortion as a left wing. Guy. Ok still has journalistic integrity. Also he's not just gonna like, for you know that him walking away from the internet was incredible and There's an Jermys gay held the other guy. Who is it to intercept with him as a great journalist, Aaron Matter? I might be fucking up his last night. We had him on. No he's great is rights for the nation. Did it A great shout he's on Jimmy Door show all the time he did a great job of lectures, blowing up the Russia conspiracy, bullshit and it more powerful because it's like a left winger doing it whose like listen. This is all lies and, like I hate Donald Trump, but
I'm not going to tell you something that isn't real is real, just because I hate him, and so, if you're, smart or if you're lucky, you know fortunate enough to find the right people really good information online, but it comes down to like who you trust, to give the right information and there's a lot of people right now who is kind of like, while these are the few people. I trust these are the few people. I trust on both sides buying could be way off like do you think you try. This person, someone come along, go hey, man. Do you know their fault, they are financed by this. Do you know that this is part of the reason why they keep bringing this up, as it does a directive that emails have been leaked and that it has been proven that these people are supposed to be doing what are known really that's the worst figuring out someone. You trust, isn't rang again find out the cop mass really doesn't speak to the alien banana yeah. But this is: where whereat right, where we're in this imperfect system, that's the best system, the world's ever known, that's the which we what's. Weird is as good as this like
it's hard to say things a grey, because things are not great for everybody there, certainly not as good as they could be right. So that said, we have to recognise that this system of this experiment self government is the best system its have been put in place. As far as creativity, our artistic contribution, the impact on culture, innovation. I do some beautiful Things are happening all around the world, but there's some wild shit that has happened in American over a period of just two hundred years. Yes, pretty fuckin crazy. No, it's the fuckin, it's the the greatest country. That's ever existed, in by many different metrics, so I threw the sign is worth saving doesn't want to fuck a suicide mission. Yes, it was worth saving. I dont believe this promises as a thought exercise. What, if all this robbery like student yet and even military industrial complex and even what, if, All of this activity has to go on in
ordered to have this much thriving in order to have this much economic prosperity and this much freedom. You gotta have fuckary you gotTa of madness, you gotta have lies. You gotta have deception. You gotta have special interest groups yet have people distorting other people's positions on things you gotta have empty pundits. You gotta have puppets in various stages of media. You have to have click bait. You have to have all these things You don't have all these things. You don't have resistance. You don't have an enemy you dont have about. You know of a competition to get the prominent ideas, you think of the most crucial in order to maintain this society and maybe even improve it. They don't compete enough they haven't, they have to be surprised. You have to show people we gonna grab. Em you gotta shaken like bad navies who almost You have to create this chaos, it's also
like you have to created in order for people the battle, this chaos and welder yeah, I mean, I guess is like a union Yang to the fact that their deeds it without corruption. There could never be like noble anti corruption forces and without any anything to fight against it, I believe there are any bad babies and devolution shake them. Those abandoned there was a bad analogy, but if you're gonna phrase abies make sure it's a bad baby Hitler, baby, yeah pillar, baby. I think it's ok. When do you think you could go back in time and be just fine killing Heller? you killed him when he was tangible and ass all the other day that maybe she just coach him yeah teach him any time. Yeah. Well, that's I mean once you have the ability to time travel. You think you re probably solve this in a better way than killing. Could you, though, maybe not I don't know you have to Keep him from steroids and cocaine Reich is apparently that was the thing they would injecting testosterone and cocaine. You ever see that video limit the Olympics we ass, we can now Piazza, is amazed, yeah,
do you imagine what it's like being in his inner circle like a little thing, fucked up or something like that desecrate. Story. I forget who told me that determining bud. but about Mussolini and then Mussolini was ready to get out of war, so I can totally doesn't want to know part of it. Is they shot Hitler up with coke and testosterone? And they said him over there? Any cornered, Mussolini and fucking talk to him for hours magic, a party with some guy who just spit interface, telling you stories and he's not into it. Public speeches public just like going in and by the end of a conversation. Mussolini is all there is that everything is just to get this man away from me. What was it that or was Mussolini like actually like yeah we're gonna play or like having just had this power. He had a needle in a fuckin, mere commodities and looked at him with one of those who are we in, but you know, Hitler was doing all sorts of hard core unfettered means by the way that was Kennedy yeah.
The doktor feel good enough that they were given that a lot of people back to me, I'm pretty convinced all of them are on some type of drugs, see Joe Biden Spring it out to accept and gave him a little something under percent Donald Trump. To do. Donald Trump did in back to back days in the last week before the election. Five events at five different states where he did close to an hour at each one like the May summit, if someone told you did we get on a plane, you doing five hours tonight in five different stage. You that's going to be a day. Man Donald Trump is in his mid seventies and she's overweight, and he had covered couple. We ago. Yes, I thought it doing it and do loves it would use, does up there in the chest. We love you with any just and by the way nothing's
It was the most amazing part about Trump. He little just gets up there and just fuckin stream of consciousness. They get a doctor with Turkey based or testosterone my kurdish shovel, em they're. Given him some everything, there's no democracy, they max something else and work there for sure, there's definite some A stimulant probably prescribed by doctors, it doesn't seem like it's bad yeah. You know I would never do drugs are people who think that I knew a lady who is I clicked on annex, but she hated drugs might keep woody Thank you. No one, moliere You know, and people have weird ideas about drugs. Tryin. If you talk to a drug specialist, I mean I'm happy on that explained that kicking Xanax is actually more difficult and kicking opiates legs. Xanax addiction is very serious, yet the power PETE, maybe not more difficult, but it's in the realm. It's like it's an incredibly difficult to kick and All sorts of weird complications with people you know
antidepressants in general or into exile, medication and generally benzodiazepines such of the Jordan Petersen, was trying to get off and he was wrecked for a fucking ye for whom you just come into the fog now mean how to go do a medical detox in Russia, yeah Benzes They have never have you ever done events. Oh you know what that is. I don't know I mean I've heard the chosen worries Peter stem Jody is itself a bow like cornflakes. Ever Jody is exactly shut on. Another he's ever have uncle, he can light of. you couldn't do anything to Jerry there's, no matter what you give em will be the same, well, while he's alive he's a national treasure, we should protect him with everything we can't you ve gotta. Now, that's right! nice us that yeah, I'm happy that was win one for the right when I got there they legalise we coincidence, maybe not it's quite a coincidence if it is just that he brought it about the energy. They probably thought about it. My uncle Joe is, tat, we gotta check that box
Glad Geraghty as a new jersey and I'm glad Jordan Petersen is home country could use a more Jordan Petersen YAP for sure, and also, I think, it's probably real important for a guy of his no actual capacity to explain what it was like to be addicted to these things and try to get off of omen. What I think a lot of us we especially be easy for someone like me, who's never been physically addicted to something where I can hide like some serious withdrawals, it's probably easy to dismiss that as mental weakness. No, but when a guy who is as intelligent as him and he spent so much time talking about personal responsibility has a situation like this? It can shine some light, a very unique way that maybe, like your, I who have you been addicted, anything that really coffee. I will convey the, but I really am addicted to coffee you ever like hat
been able to have coffee. If you have had some headaches adds like eyes, I d give blood or to give blood test ones like a couple years ago, and it was like you can't drink coffee before it and it was like at noon. And it was like by the time I was out. I was like holy shit like I'm, really feeling that, but no, not not addiction like anything like major headaches I bought a fifty one ounce friends press is like a big old metal, french press, and I, when I make coffee, if I make french press coffee, I way too much coffee, but do not suppose have that much grants. I'm basically make speed, and then I poured water and I drank the whole thing, so I drank fifty ounces. Whatever it is. Without the beans civil I've make it a couple interest DEC on the ball: right. It's way more vomitings poster So let's say I drink forty five ounces of coffee and its crank and by the in the day, I was so tired and I was like what is required
my so tired and like all your speech today stoop here, they are basically to catch up with you. You, like the elderly, but before that I felt so good I wanted a hug, everybody cuz. I wanted to go to work. I wanted to get things done. I got to work out in. I did some writing. I made some phone calls and sounds pretty good to me. The only negative was he got, tired, the end of the day. I was tired, like when tromp was asleep I'd love to ceiling a webcam of him. When after all dies out, and he has to take a sleeping pill but his whatever it is that he takes the energy that that guy has. I remember Bill O Reilly interviewed. Him is like when he first became president, and it was what, before bill, O Reilly went down so that around when I first became president and he asked him how one, which was the greatest thing ever was he asked him up. He was like said he ever look around the White House and just think to yourself like man. This is like really incredible on
President of the United States and Europe is like that's nice house. Should you seem so unimpressed back? I don't really get as a shithole where he lay evidence is dotted troubling is also as it did. You ever have like a serious moment where he thought about your role in history and all this in this house, your enemies, I donno for control. Like out of any other than a lot of nice houses and deliberately asked him how how much he sleeps a night, and he said about three hours, and he goes does that light? mess with you in a ghost. I always liked about three hours, but he was always kind of being this guy. He always love is a big advantage. The celebrity factor of four Donald Trump was a big advantage in politics and a part of that was that like when he would get on those debate, stages, you're gonna, think like in the primary debates with us Republicans. Alot of these guys, like you know, Marco, Rubio or someone like that. You may have been groomed by the establishment, but he hasn't been under these type of lights, but now he hasn't had a hundred million people watching him before,
the Donald Trump steps right in their like this is exactly where I belong. Does this is my home and was so comfortable Avis openly JEB Bush, whose from the most power for crime family in America, but it has ever been spotlight like that before now another guy, like Donald Trump, who does following the rules Well, yes, I Jamie I've heard recently, I only one of speculation by like the drug use taking. Not like, after all or some math thing, but he's taken they Provo actually baby. I just found a trifling two years ago that is doctor parent passes it out, like candy yeah. Well. That will definitely Papua deeply yeah I've taken that I've taken profitable. without a doubt. It gives you a lot of energy, its great. If you have to drive and United guinea sleep, it's amazing making for stayed awake but makes sense. I mean it's not a speed. Technically, it's a different
it's an indifferent, classed undertaken. It doesnt elevate your heart rate, its banned from I believe its banned from olympic competition. Save that that's case New vigil look up. New vigil is it An asteroid zone of co modality, Madame for no financed right is like that's out of no that's vaguer. They added a musket sure days into attitude e prohibited substances. Ten days before the two dozen yeah does it does give you some sort of a stimulant affect not stimulant effect like it's in IRAN from thinks it's cool? It's it, gives you like this weird buzz. I gave us weird. Necessarily think it increases your I q, like I don't the increases ocean, say IQ, cognitive performance, but I do think it makes you appear like giving creature cognitive performance like. Maybe it makes you
think that you're smarter, but it gives you more dangerous ceiling, as it would prove like know best. Look up no benefit for cognitive performance on provisional. I may be wrong. I think that may be a slight uptake for a lot of people, but for a lot people, I think one of things and hold them back, is they just not that healthy? Then I have a lot of energy healthy people that are like really vibrant people are in good shape. They have more energy for stuff in that, but make them think better researchers have found a definite boosts, hi, hi, order, cognitive function with causing serious side effects medallic now which has been prescribed in the. U S since one thousand nine hundred and ninety eight to treat sleep related conditions such as narcolepsy and sleep apnea heightens alertness, it's much as caffeine does really selling it. Also, as his button do them, you can click on them again. Does it increase
booth higher order, cognitive function. I don't know that you'd have to take a couple of tests. I guess the wrath of boost ripe, guarded test for yeah, This interesting from what I understand, even those prescribed for narcolepsy. I believe it was developed for I think it was developed the performance enhancing drugs, I think they did developed it too. they were trying to figure out how to increase cognitive functions and then they said: well, you can't just give a drug for people who want to get smarter about? She left over reason like a medical condition, because the state of our medical system, and so and they said narcolepsy there event knocked it'll help against narcolepsy, then a lot
these drugs are developed like that, like there's third developed for a purpose, completely Dynamo Banda being nine hundred thousand prescriptions into thus and seventeen in just the? U S. For most will make us a way that makes it the number three hundred and twenty Eightth most commonly prescribed. wow? It's really good was a billion, I'm not saying you should get out. I definitely have I haven't taken it for years, though, but I think you should, but it looks like drums doing. Things are working up pretty good for that whenever I now the knot now, just a still greater legal, big, baby take your lamp, sir, but when you. I know what you guys are an author who says he can't function without these rights. That's what he uses is that stuff is unknown energy without it, but again works citing allowing people like. I just thought that healthy right and they need something. I'm a little pick me up. You know I talked at TIM Ferris about it. You know TIM verses into a lot of performance, enhancing things.
Lotta bio, hacking type things, and he said that he didn't want to put it in his book. It was it for our body. or the four hour work. I don't know which, which one it was one of his books, one of his sort of like how to beat the system type books, because he he goes. I felt like people just aren't going to start eating it. candy and he goes and I feel like there's always a biological like there's, no biological, freer There's is always some sort of negative aspect specially to abuse of something like that. But where seventy four and not in the french fries their ticket ass, you gotta, go back home terms as guy got left anywhere. Well, you have. Some people are just freaks like that. You know like somebody is truly some people, don't you know what I mean. The relics on people who are like are like eat like shit, unlike still fuckin, Some people just naturally have better cardio, even if they're not like running as much as anybody else, I just naturally have it better. Some people can treat their bodies like shit and still
and most people can't write, but Trump is, if nothing else, he is unique. but he had to with anyone so quickly. I don't care what drugs they gave him. It is our job to get access to drugs. Are we don't have given everybody give those drugs to everybody, and then we open up the country and because of that, that guy who's almost dead, he's seventy four? What is the average life expectancy? I think he's above it think seventy seven as it it's in the neighborhood. Yes, Lord this year, because of all this. sure, let's say seventy six, so he's too years. Away from being dead you guys gave him these magic. Drugs now is doing five hours campaigns everyday, whatever those are you got give them out? Seventy six, seven thousand, that no eighty one for checks the last year, complain. It well the last five years. I just laugh refer for. If I can't my win,
it's? It's got a great I mean I. I hope this is the big hope right buddy It's an office, the country relaxes all this crazy shit about me Listen everything people realising that's bad and then whatever this vaccine is in whatever these treatments are, were allowed to go back to normal, and that would be. That would be the best case scenario that I, that Joe Biden does something you know we'll have national, mask mandate or something and then help for dual. Do that for two months then he goes, we defeated the virus and we did it cause. We finally got serious and listen to the science and, but I gotta say I'm not super optimistic that that's the way it's gonna get about explaining yours enemy before the shower talking about governance, realising
Oh well, I'm his power yeah look, I mean. I think that what's what's happened over the last year in America is really like unprecedented. I mean that the idea that Americans have now accepted to some degree that we could be in a state where were sitting at home, watching our governors on television to find out what we are allowed to do today are we allowed to go to the park. When I see my grandmother, can I have my family of can I go to work like the most intimate basic things that we all took for granted as freedoms? Of course, the government could never tell you can't or can't do that and Now the governors have taken this authority and the World major push back. I mean there was a little, but not so much that they couldn't get away with doing it, and- don't know that they are just going to give up that authority. Now that Dave seized it. I mean my my thing what I think about covert, ultimately, with the effect that the locked downs and all this will have. I think it would be something like night.
Eleven, where you know like at right. After nine eleven you member there is all that fear that there be another terrorist attack like. Oh, my God were terrified. This could happen again and that's kind of gone away. People really live with a fear of another terrorist attack, but the Department of Homeland Security is here to stay. The t s eye is here to stay. The wars that were fighting are seemingly figure to stay. The patriot act is here to stay all of these things and then all the stuff tat grew out of the patriot. Act, the crazy, an essay spying and all that, so that my guess is that a lot of these things are going to be here to state. When you give the government control it's very hard to get it back from them. Yes, and that's that's a difficult dynamic especially when it's for your own good, like in a medical, emergency and The problem is, we ve always lost, so many people to so many different medical's emergencies so may differ medical problems. We would have government changed away. People were allowed eat because we talked about the money, that's how like all the heart,
these all the money that is going words treating heart disease. and we we have to put a stop to. This, has become a real issue in this country, were losing four million people a year, whatever it is to heart disease, heart attacks. We have to stop this and so we're gonna, enforce certain rules and regulations in terms of how you can eat and was once you accept this principle it there is a lot of different ways that you could you could go down this this line and- and the other big one I would say, is like climate change. I mean if you accept that cove it was this emergency now that we have to lock everyone in their houses in all this stuff. Well, ok, you a whole bunch of people who are arguing that climate change is an existential crisis. That's gonna! U know, make all things the planet uninhabitable for uninhabitable. Excuse me for for all living things. Well, then, by that logic, wouldn't that be worth locking, people in their homes over, and so this is its very
Andrews once you ve, set this precedent that the government can do this They all look around at each other and realized when we got away with us and by the way that night even if you believe the lockdown, where the right thing to do for covert, which I dont, but even if you believe that you still have to be concerned about this? Like authoritarianism that we ve kind of like ushered in over this last year, doesn't mean that that's not a danger anymore. You know what I mean like, even if you think chemotherapy as necessary to kill the cancer. You still to worry about all the other. You know like effects of chemotherapy and so that that to me is it's very dangerous about all of this Joe Biden, Ray on on the idea that is open to another round of locked downs, and I wonder if people realize How devastating the last round of loch downs? Where and how devastating it would be to do it again. I don't know I have your version was right as it really opened when you say
well run like in certain political allies, lockdown yeah, yeah we'll never really opened right right. They opened a few like things for a few weeks like gems and nails lawns and they closed to back down, get right. So yes, so in some places it is still pretty locked down and then in some places it's kind of was I locked down, not quite as much as it was back in March April may rum, but No New York City has never been the same, and businesses have been destroyed. People's lives have been destroyed over this. It's it's a real. It's a real, awful fat, New York City S. Some crazy amount of apartments open, like its banana people, have been battling unnecessary. Like. I think the last check a double the amount of normal apartments at are available. That makes sense
people have been moving out like crazy and it's hard. It was hard for a while to get like any numbers on it, but I know like stories, I've heard people who work for a moving companies saying like you can't book us to move, were completely booked up like one move, everybody we're all going out of the city? You halls were really hard to get trip while plea that empty empty rental apartments in Manhattan triple hitting you're. Sixteen thousand and I would like to raise a bet it's even worse now month later, but that's vacancy rate Manhattan, which is typically two to three percent, is now under six percent Y all saw something about a central as some colleagues a California, my beginning, rolling back now has the numbers are goin up again: oh really the numbers going over there and, of course,
all this stuff isn't just the locked down. It was also all the riots number this summer and the fear that these rights were gonna, get worse and worse on the looting and the looting. Yet another was already pretty bad, but the fear was kind of like oh, I guess, especially when was a really crazy thing to see the cops stepped back and just let people Lou Basically, just like ok, you're gonna. Do it go for it? Now you not been Santa Monica. The sheriff gave orders for the cops to stand out Sylvester because we were criticising her a really upset and even if there is not even if that hasn't been talked about in other areas, it was pretty clear that they were given orders to to stand down in a lot of playhouse. When the numbers get so high when the cops had a band in that Minneapolis Police station right. When you got to the point where they were overcoming the police station, they let him lie
please station on fire like when I got up in the morning after the should have hit the fan and delay, and I saw this video these cop cars like on on the highway to slid on fire one after the other covered. Spray paint window smashed in alike were now. This is in l, a It is not a Minnesota, This is not Minneapolis where it actually happened. This is nowhere near it and their lighting other cop cars on far Santa Monica police chief step down a couple weeks ago incur recognising that recent events, both here in Santa Monica and around the nation, have strain community police relations too, for now, has made the decision to step aside. The the article police Department can continue to move forward the statement, and now, seeing her retirement set up pretty sure she told told the cops to stand out added, starts off, saying that, like amid anger over her response to the protests yeah, they the eye
deal was that this same idea that the mayor of New York acted on. though you let him burn out, let him get it out or system, which is that really socks? If you happen to be one of those people caught in the burning and out yeah. Now like that that's pretty rough, he also open up the door to the fact that this can happen again and if it does happen again, you're not gonna do anything again. Well, it does and it seems like there's no at this point now. It's like a if there is an incident that comes out where a cop kill. the black guy we're not even going to wait to figure out what happened to your doing investigation. Was this an unjustified shooting? Was it justified? It's just going to be the first knee jerk reaction is like. Let's start, you know, burning stuff down, just like very disturbing an incredibly does I say that as somebody who is like not a fan of policing in this country and think we do have major problems, but I always right from the very beginning in Minneapolis was like this is like completely unaware.
About you can't like support people destroying communities, because their pissed off In unrelated thing, and any more than you can support the? U S. you know, invading Iraq, because their pissed off about nine eleven, but you can't just be like hey. This guy did something to me. So I'm going to go, take it out on this guy, and then people give you these like response like, so you care more of that play men about human lives or something, and you like, won't that's. Why Is it a chore his like? What can I be against all of it? I know it's it's weird narrative, while there is that it there's been a lot of the there, those this year like there was that, oh you just want to get. A haircut was a big narrow. If you like, opposed the locked down, so we are kind of like that. Do you really think? That's all that human life is leaving your home is just getting a haircut. It's not like. I don't know you know seeing family or getting a cancer screening or what you know like what
all of human life pretty much. It's just reduced that you just want to hear cut you being able to make your own decisions, like you being able to Fu like one thing you're allowed to do, is enter into the protests. So people were protein, testing and everybody thought that was okay, so you shoulder to shoulder with. I agree with that. have any problem with protests. I think it's yet. You have why you're allowed to its part of freedom of Assembly is part of the constitution. the bill rights. It's part of who we are you're allowed to protest things. You disagree with you if you're peaceful I absolutely agree with you, but if you can allow people to do that, you should also allow them to go to the gym. You should ask allow them to go to comedy. Clubs should also allow them to go to restaurants. You should allow them to do whatever they want and if you say well, you have to have a consideration that you're gonna get all these other people sick. If you get sick, ok, after that, with everything you have to have that with
No one said hey. I understand that you want a protest and Malaysia, but here's the problem. This could spread the disease. Please don't do no answer the nonsense you like do you remember when it first happened when that when the protest first like started and the base with the media and even a whole bunch like epidemiologist and suffer like no, it's ok, it's ok for them. Does that to me was like one of the craziest moments. I've ever lived, throw cognitive dissonance like and I've I've like all the time talk about how corrupted the corporate press are all liars and stuff and all but two actually see that that they would go like it was like. Ok was like three months of this complete Change of the american way of life, where it's like listen all gonna. Do this you have to give up everything and stay home, because we gotta control this disease and then like they were like. Oh, God, there were twenty year olds at the beach
my god they're, going to spread it and then, like two days later, it was like notice, is totally fine what the fuck is going on here. Could you possibly rob everything from people? But then you decide that, because their protesting a cause that we agree like we agree with the cause. Therefore, this is ok. I was how can we there's no negative consequences to it at all, like that was real the bizarre, and then there were things you know. I had a lot of these kind of anecdotal stories like people would tell, but I mean they're worth things were, like you know, as air. This one story that always stuck with me about a guy who's wife was pregnant and they it for she got sick and it looked like they might lose the baby and they wouldn't let her in there let him in the appointment with her, so she had. No, they don't lose the baby. Thank God and everything is fine, but they like she, was going into. A sonogram too may be find out that they had lost the baby and they wouldn't. Let him be, they are like hold her hand through that ran as you like
What if you could put a value on that or whatever that's why the thing to ask someone not run out to be the do and then to have epidemiologist go like where we think that this protesting is so important that you can go. what you saw you telling that guy that that was an important enough like that was an important for it to be here with an individual, controlled environment. You could test yeah, yeah yeah. I know it. So it's just it's pretty And that really did a lot like undermine people's confidence in like the scientists- and you know you want to say, follow the science. It's like you have it. This isn't science with his magic power, recognise it as a lotta malarkey, as does not all honour percent straightforward. I talking to a guy's, very intelligent guy and he was we're talking about one of these recent studies with covered in uv light, and how it shows that it dies very quickly, sunlight and you Well, that's why there was no spread after the riots. I got they stop when it went dark.
What're you talking about. There was spread like there was an uptake, it was going down and then came back up again. It's all like within. Week or two other rights regarding a given. you can see the cases, but it's not even like the who wanted to believe it yeah no, I understand he's not a part of the media, and there was no one around, but me is you have it sometimes people, it's a very powerful thing to start with, like in emotional. You know position and then rationalize from there? I might we all do that. You know myself included a thing where you want to come. you want to say things and the other persons has the same thing. You both agree you carry this weird mantra: yeah, I'm any any reinforcing. I am yeah bounced off each other inside both more sure that right team, but though the weirdest part about it, then was that so then they go like ok, oh my god, some kids went to spring break these evil killers like. How could you
Kids do this, I don't care about grandma and then two days later were protesting, gnats totally fine, we're not gonna get covered that way, and then another day later, it's like await trumpet rally. Oh I'm is this going to spread covered like crazy, and it's got so bananas that it's like Jude S, Your agenda is showing its just obvious way and you can maybe defend that agenda, but that's an agenda, that's not science, it so inconsistent, yeah, yeah, ridiculous nonsense, but. You know, I think also people felt like this is a real chance for change, and there were willing to take a risk that these protests are important because they they they represented enough, is enough and that people going to get out in the streets and even if those got broken and things things let on fire the day? We're gonna fix all that calm down and this the idea behind it. But I think if you really want to make a change, then they couldn't have done a worse job of how they went up
that, and I understand it's a lot of different people. So it's not like any one person you can blame but like if you like it, Might my buddy Scott Horton, whose fuckin genius, by the way, Scott Horton at the Libertarian Institute and she got up and wearing a short opportunities in it? But here he said- and I really love this- he said when black lives matter first came out. He was like and he's like, as against police brutality is any human being on the planet. He's been writing about this for decades and he's like because don't call it black lives matter call it accountability for killer cops. and just run with that, like just run with the narrative that look, this is what we want and it's something you can't argue for dominance the racial thing. It's gonna get played in a million different ways, and it ends up like creating these dynamics that aren't helpful to getting to the root of the problem, which is we want. The these five major policy reforms. You know we want to you. No accountability for Killer
and the war on drugs and qualified immunity and civil asset forfeiture. You know I pick some really important things that would actually save lives and and go hard at those, but The problem is that, then you have the way the movement goes. And then you have the rioting and stuff like that in the loop and then this ends up turning a lot of people off who would maybe be sympathetic by between think it over and over again you see whitecap black victim white caught black victim. went over and over again you see this narrative, whether not representatives of interactions with Cobb's as a whole. doesn't matter cuz the videos ago viral. I think, there's probably millions of interactions where nothing goes wrong at all, but those don't matter what matters when they do go viral so many times? air gardener, this George Floyd case Sony Times Whitecap black victim so there you have to acknowledge the racial aspect of it. I think
by saying it. Justice against killer cops or get rid of killer cops Europe you aren't you not addressing the thing that is maybe most disturbing too many peoples, as that it keeps being a white com and a black man. I think that there are very are certainly videos where that is the case. There is also a lot of videos. Were that's not the case. They don't get the same amount of play by balancing the press, but it the ones that become viral, these big stories, but but your question mania why those ones become such big stories and the other ones don't. My point is that if you, when you play up, the racial like aspect that what you end up doing is there, So then, you start having this conversation, we're having we're. Ok, so about twice as many white people are. Are unarmed white people are killed by cops every year than black people, but black people aren't half the population, Why are you so black people, like thirteen percent of the population, so for them to be
you know whatever they. It is like forty percent, something like that of of the killings. It is disproportionate. Then you have to take into account where the high crime neighborhoods our how many interactions there having with police. Like I I understand there are these videos that go viral. What happened to me? My opinion, what happened and George Floyd was like a horrific and people to go to jail over that shit. They would have been a Brianna Taylor was horrific and people should go to jail over that shit. It's not clear to me at all. That race was a factor. In those cases. I could be wrong about that. I just I'm really seen any evidence to suggest that it was Maybe it is. I just think that you you end up going down this route, so one of the activists in Minneapolis said this thing, and this is where, like woke, ism comes in tat poison, the shit from my perspective, so he said they dont want to call it call it police brutality anymore. They want to call it systemic racism, because this is just another form.
systemic racism, forget the term police brutality and what ends up happening. When you look at things that ways what you don't get rid of, is police brutality? What you end up getting rich is answer. My mom, you know it, it become the distraction of other issues rather than focus. hang on the major issues that you care about and to me, I'm just I'm just saying if you wanted to be effective, I think black lives matter would be better off to share. Some. those videos of it happening to white people. Also, look this isn't just black people's problem. This is cop on civilian problem. This is a government for a terrier, probably there have been some them went viral. The one that is most disturbing to me was the Guy Phoenix Shaver. I believe, as there was in the hallway crawling, they made him crawling cap reaching back to pick his pants up. There falling down, he's, crying and begging for his life and they got to let him up on the ground. The worst one. I've ever seen, it's my fault because he made the guy crawl to him, and then he gunned them down, as he was crawling to him and
gleaming item now time. Let me I love, you know the end here toy gun or something like that in the song, with a toy gun out the window and called in the Swat team. So they came in gear it up and and rubbed up. There's been a lot. police, brutality, videos, the Sandra Bland One is particularly disturbing asked in doing wrong telling to put her sacred out in a car like with a phone for you to tell us what it was regarded as jail yeah. She hung herself or have also knew who not. If we don't know, that's part the problem, but though, the racial aspect of it when you're of, if you're a person who is a black person or any person of color, and you see over and over again a white cop killing a black person whether its representative meet you, you're, not gonna, think when you see those videos now, there's a million interactions, and most of them are positive. Can I know your experiences with cops enough Kobza bullied you and fuck with you, or maybe
the victim of police, brutality yourself and then you're gonna think how many times been a whitecap due to a black person. I think the nuts not insignificant, it has to be addressed yet look I certainly understand why that would be a lot of people's perspective. I get that completely, Just saying that, from the way look at it like. I think that for one like really for the first time that I have ever seen, I thought leading up to the George Floyd situation that right, wingers were really getting red, build on cops like they actually getting really pissed off at the cops were the ones enforcing these locked and they were against and there was a lot of like stuff with right, wingers will be like. Can you believe these cops are actually doing this? If they'll shut down, you know they were shutting down churches that something that pisses right, wingers off and their end so and then, when the George Floyd thing came out, I think pretty much everybody not everybody, but the vast majority of the public was like that is really horrible. What happened to that guy
and I think there was a lot of energy that could have actually been used for real change, and I think that what's happened since then has basically blown it, because that you see what happens. Then, when people see riding and looting who do they, who do they want, they want the cops they want. The cops back, it's like it's almost like that was Roof like it's almost like you're working to prove the wingers right about what they thought about the cops to begin with, which is that well If we don't have dropped, this is what we have just looting and riding and violent law. If you dont have cops and then you have civil unrest and also you have a bunch of people that have no money because they been locked down from US time and then you have opportunity because you get shot, like the one in Santa Monica tells her what to stand down. Then you have chaos, yeah, that's that's it! recipe for disaster, but it's also It's really easy to break things is not so easy to fix them. It's not these are to bring it all back together again, do it was eleven months ago like try, try getting there right now.
SK continue eleven years. Well, that's right and an you may Forget it. You may not know. I like one thing that I think that I think people the the ones who really wanted Trump out- and I understand why a lot of him dead. I think a lot of images that, like Trump fatigue, like I just deal with this bullshit anymore, like I just can't, but I think they they should realise the passive only that were never going to a pre trump world again, like never one hundred percent. You know think we may never go to a pre covered world again and we may never go to a pre. You know black lives matter world again like what we might get closer that then we are now, but I dont know that will ever go back to that time comply in the same way that we never went to a pre, nine eleven world again or a Pre Kennedy assassination world again, as others, certain events in our our history that they change us forever, and this is most certainly one of those events, but
We could say the same thing about the spanish flu, although I did the government or the media was a sophisticated back then, and there is a lot more there's a lot more hardship in the world, yet period ends, and then what happened right after the spanish flu was a roaring twenties right. That was neatly afterwards and then, of course, the great depression a lot of ups and downs and hills and valleys back then, but those people got through that and then stop wear masks. So one it's where we see the photos from the spanish flu. I never knew that there were wear masks. The people were mass in public when you look at these old black and white photos. It's really kind of interesting, like your oh look at that it's almost like. I know the real pictures, but if they work some like Photoshop and asks on these people and and pretended There's a pandemic back then that's what it looks like it looked. Almost faint yeah yeah
I've seen some of those those photos, but I know what you mean words by think like what you said is really the heart of it. That life was just so much harder back. Then we look at this yeah I've seen around was neither watching a baseball. Is a football game, excited Look in on the mass on crazy, but that's it went to see the game you hear about the flu being down dramatically. Look at all these players have mass on business nuts, the football squad has masks on what years is that Jamie? I typed in Spanish Flu Sport football games. I've ever seen this picture was, it says its nineteen eighteen, oh yes and eighty that's. Not so did they ultimately come up with a vaccine for the spanish flu is out of the plane baseball with the falcon masks? why she doesnt have seen fit to a notary yeah but did symbol? what I know. I never saw these before, like nobody, there
as a rebel, so that these are not parlor. He doesn't wailing. I also saw some now like this will not actual that mass I couldn't I can, which was actually They think we got stop people from where mass in their twitter profiles fuck stop that's basic. the same thing as your pronouns Andrew buyer. It's basically the exact. I think letting everybody else know that you're a good person if you want prison just go be a good person. Some people, departures Massa, have seen that really yeah, so about the way. This is what I hate all of this shit words like how bout Lake that one of the things that I hate about, like woke ism in general, to is that it lets everybody kind of like pretend there like lead everyone else know they're a good person, but you don't actually have to douche it to see. One of the press conference is wearing a mask while she was talking. One of her speeches should a mask on while she speak
There are so many things that are so weird little of this whole responsibly, like that. Doesn't even makes sense even by your own, while you no one's near you see when they found on the podium, so they cancelled the second debate between Trumpet Biden and then they both had live events. The knight of the debate, which is both had an event he did one with a trumpet one with NBC and but it did one would CNN because so fucking, like get on a plane and fucking debate each other. When what are you doing? What I think the first one was so aggressive, which would trumpeted was so disruptive and aggressive. That is bad strategy, yes, and I think the second one was brilliant if he did in the first one. Would he didn't? Second one. I think you would have much more momentum coming into the election or maybe it he had had the the middle one? So there were three debates you know like if that, when hadn't been cancelled he would have had to more. Opportune was thus far
one that, while the third one was the one you talk to. Second, what is set out was just talk about the as yet is your I'm just saying like, maybe if he had had another debate where he could have handled the way he did in that. Second, one also, maybe, if you had to performance, has like then why else him a little bit rise, but I suicide. If you just then the first without the bad one, without Lytton, interrupting on was just so hard to listen to its like, as I can do because you know that was when there is talk about like tramples tweeting, that you want to come on here and have me HIM and Biden talk for four hours and those that will I do what he was doing that I would have to stop him have to say, hey man I get so I don't understand you, the President, Mr Trump, you can't do that because you get over the guy talk. then don't say anything, and then you talk like zone this is gonna work yet, but I think you would have handled it like that in a way better way than than Criswell
was a wonder ass. He could, and he's also is get ninety minutes, which is preposterous, and they have two minutes answer questions which is ridiculous. These are really important questions. Why do you have two minutes? I would if, after two minutes like a thing, I got a better way say that no shut the fuck up, stop too these. Sir. Your time is up. Your time is up, like wit, what kind of wise there rate it's insane. It makes no sense at all, and that's what it when my favorite things about this show is that you ve almost proven things. Parlor reason why Sonya so many of those establishment types like resent you a lot for it is that you have proven that there. home model is stupid this model is stupid. While you have a show where people need time to unpack things and have a long conversation, if you're talking about really serious complex issues, the idea that we are debating who gets to have the nuclear football. all, but we ve got to do it in this limited time and you'll have thirty seconds each. It's also has worked hard at. I dont know what they're gonna talk about. That's important to what I am. When things about part gases is knowledge. No one ever system, like ok
this? No, no! That Jones tried to the producer valve before he had things that he wanted to talk about. There were important, yet he did, he felt were important. But that's what you're saying you're talking about our like the scripted common talking about me brain things up with them like if I said, Sir, your age, job performer job numbers and have elevated. What are you tribute that too, like that kind of shit with again prepare. if you have enough time to let these guys talk just talk No pressure whatsoever on. figuring out how to answer as a sentence, or a subject rather coherently. You're gonna get a bit our understanding that person is now with Trump everybody. Thirty have a good understanding. Who is because he goes in these long. rambling self serving diatribes about subjects, but
to have just to see that if you get him to calm down a little and see by in him talking through things. Just let him talk, let him talk through things. Let Biden say something about public trump say some about Biden. Dont, say Young two minutes dots any that shit. Just let him talk see what that suits you. It happens. I wish that would have happened. I would even fascinating that really would be, and by the way I think Trump cards Trump is kind of. master troll. I think he knew that Biden would never agree to it. Have the reason why dead at now he would never fucking grit is no act it without I've been going from buying, it would be so beneath him to come here to like what are you doing, but would it, though, I mean, did your father always wealthier, high chess? I think the corporate press would have lost their shit if they, because if they lose that to you than they have just lost everything, would you would you have Trump on Ex president trumpeters doesn't seem like smart move at this point, but I think all of those like it. Like in a year with Armenia and said that the grated he's gonna run again,
if he maybe they boot about office and twenty twenty four he's his start running in January, he's going to run for four years you and talk shit. For four years. I have a feeling Trump's they're, going to really come after him and his post press I think he's gonna get going off twitter. I think it's gonna get completely like the Alex Jones treatment on social media, and I think and there's gonna, be there legally gonna try to come after him I don't think there's no way in your right. They can't just let him they can't. Let him be trot, which would be amazing, but they can't let her be Trump here.
he's literally, he could set up his own oval office and say I am the real president, the real president. This is now the oval office and I'm giving the military commands from here. Didn't I stole it from doing some wacky painting would like him sitting there and, like all the other, presents behind him with his bare hands on her shoulder somethin. I remember this correct matter of. I don't know this. I think he had something in the oval office. That was like really preposterous, where people sought, unlike what enough fuck, are you doing just to believe there is right. There I mean they're all sitting around Ral Reagan's the table Nixon's their Lincoln Lincoln he's he's an extra eisenhower? Is he didn't want to tie, know whose Eisenhower's attires well know either now Roosevelt Roosevelt has attacked eyes. hours in the yellow, Eisenhower's relaxed his retired Chelles Reagan there's J W and there is that, the pain that he has on his war, Trump hangs, fantasy, painting,
with other GEO P, president at the White House, Libya that so he's got this pressure them all yuk, yuk, yuk away where I wanna great old time with our Lincoln's there. Oh, how we're does that mention there I'll look at it when Lincoln's alive you Billy came in what was it I can seventeen seventy six he'll take you wouldn't be targeted trump. It's hilarious. And what is red tie they would all staring at Lincoln Gaunt Jesus how'd, you get here, What's your problem, you do it we should, as I was a lot wholly shilling again holy shit yeah, you just pull Lincoln and eyes. Now our side, Eisenhower speech about the military industrial complex. When he's leaving offices to this day, one almost chilling things: I've ever seen its right, there was Oppenheimer talking about quoting the bog about Gaed after him detonated the bomb yeah so well there. What is this thing like? I am the maker of death
sighing boy. He quotes Shiva. I become death, destroyer of worlds yeah. That is that's creepy, but Eisenhower's thing. I think I could be wrong about this, but I believe that Trump went in the club we played earlier is the second president too. I use the term military industrial complex. I dont know I could be wrong about that, but I've never heard another president say the term military and Israel Complex other than Eisenhower in his farewell address, and an Trump and dumb that, and it was particularly you know, crazy, coming from Eisenhower, who's the fuckin general? You know like he's the guy who led the victory in world war, two which leads to this creation of really what we know is the military, industrial, complex and even ass. He he's going he's like listen We tell you something now we ve created something here that we got a really worry about cause we're not America anymore. The way we ve been before this. Now we have
whole industry, that pushing toward war, and we got a guard against this power. Any spirit but he says, sought or unsought bears a really interesting way to put its like. Even if they're not trying to theirs of these natural forces of like your weapons company. So what do you think you think we should have a bigger military budget? Are smaller one a bigger one right and then looked like so all of these forces and then the next president after Eisenhower, is of k who, as you know,. Some shit went down there, so it's did up real quick with tat. So there's there's the latter- really you no kind of interesting history there, but that we- let's just say we didn't listen to Eisenhower and we did not guard against powers.
By the military industrial complex. Now it some what its such an interesting choice too, because I guess he had the ability to say whatever he wanted in the nations address being the president like it, it seems pretty clear that he didn't have to run that I any anyone and you wonder what do they have to run by now when we have the discussion when people say oh, they always lie when they want to get into president into office, and then they get an opposite do shit. They don't do any of the things they said they were gonna. Do what happens when you get in there and is it like the bill? Hicks joke Were they show you an angle of the Kennedy assassination and then you well, what's my agenda this that it or is it, do they show you a real model of the world that you're not privy to. If you not the president to they sit down talk about all this. That's the problems now at all really works, enticed gather like what is it it's an and it's you know I don't know, but it's also
possible that it's kind of somewhere in between where there is maybe they're, not you know showing you the Kennedy assassination film, like the great bill, Hex joke, but you Look. I know that Donald Trump got in and he ran on were ending all these wars and that's it these. What now you know from like a champion perspective, it wasn't like that, Paul. You know like these wars. he'll all these innocent people. It was like a trump like this. Is bad business We're wasting money on these wars that we're ending them like on too smart for them chump as lasting, the military industrial complex, but he's one of its biggest boosters. Well, that's that's true to that's, that's for sure, I'll, just as made the purchase public display and foreign sales of military hardware a major priority of his administration? No fun to articles that we're talking about liked. He says the stuff about the military industrial complex. However, his action say differently, like he'd, give them more money than anybody ever oh yeah.
No, there were increased defence budgets under Donald Trump for right, but there also is using you. he actually is trying to get out these countries. Though I mean you could do both things right. You can increase the defence budget, but not due to an offensive way. Increase its defence If we increase the amount of money that you give to the troops there, Billy fight, ices, the ability to make new weapons and innovate yeah. You could do both things simultaneously or I think that at least from everything I've read that he really is trying to get out of Afghanistan and that he really is true. work at the other end that war here The idea that Europe is taking on the defence industrial base is pure fantasy and national security action. Now social security action, a liberty advocacy group composed of former Obama administration staffers, set on Tuesday, we're good Jamie, physicists but like I mean there is, I will say, though, to trumps credit he did of
avoid getting us in another war and there were some opportunities and he he avoided. He flirted with it, certainly in around and and and real in Venezuela as well, but he never got us into that war, and there were definitely a lot of people around him who really wanted him to get into those wars, and he did avoid that. But you know like when he first came in and he was running on like ending all of these wars, the guy, the military guy who he made his national security adviser was Flynn like that was his guy who is going to come in and lead us out of these wars and what happened immediately. and I say an FBI targeted Flynn got dirt on him, got him removed. And then they get somebody else in there. So it might be. so that they do not necessarily have to like threat. your family, your show you the angle of J F K, but they could just be like what we're just gonna, remove all the people from your cabinet who we don't like kind of get our people in there.
and keep the machine role. Flinch, flinching, spooky cuz. He think that guy gets to that level, the military his immune to that not him. Now and here from what I've heard like a little bit of a crazy guy, if he was not working with the Russians, that was just complete, bullshit an end there. They had nothing of FBI completely set m up just so maison that they can do that. What what's up to him? I just like a complete his memory when it run the parade with where he did actually do it. Re brought in all the tanks and missile yeah troops and fuckin showed off everything we have oh yeah. There was a big thing he wanted. Trot was like CAC, basically good, my giant metal catholic Dragon, it down the street he's a good about it all gave Dando fact if it so depressing. What can you do what you do to stay happy? What do you do with it Do what you do to avoid just getting sucked into this constant state,
Well, I asked the I got a perfect little to your old and you know I love my wife. So but that's really that's the best you can do is try to try to like get good people round you in your life, be good to them? Cried your own little world as much as you can, and then I think that you, like the best thing, is to try to keep perspective that even with all the fucked up shit in the world, there has always been a tunnel fucked up shit in the world, and people have always People have persevered through far worse than what we are going through right now. I think that's kind of the best out you know take to have as a keeps me saying. Yeah right make sure your little circle. Happy who are you around? The people around behind be friendly, have a good time, be nice
each other enjoy your time together enjoy to the company. But to start this, you know when you think about what you can do in terms of impacting the world or impact in the country. It's real. It's a cliche to say start with the people that are around. You really is cliche, but it is kind of true cuz. You do have a ripple effect on the way you treat people in the friendships you have and how it affects others, both more good people to IRAN around more. They affect other people. There's, really some kind of a ripple effect. If we get more people to adopt it, that's where mushroom legalization comes in the ass. Well, So you that's, that's they had some good. They had some good victories for mushroom organs like fuckin, do coke organ look. If you wanna white everything on fire all the time about, do mushrooms, do whatever the fuck you
want to stop like those on fire yeah. But you know it's. That is by the way, it's great, that they did that and it's the smartest thing to know that the whole the all idea of drugs being illegal The war on drugs is so misguided and just awful and just ruins people's lives creates. Black markets leads to violent crime I'm destroys neighborhoods, it's at least I'd say. Probably sixty percent of the entire immigration problem is just the war on drugs. They constantly they'll, be like. Well there's these gang members were smuggling drugs over the borders and likely at why? Because there is a demand for and then there are the market and its illegal, and this is where you get it from and yeah of course, there's crime associated with that too, I mean like so that it is the best and mushrooms is just the idea that its illegal is insane. I mean it's like it for love. You can't get addicted physical, I don't think you can get it acted. Your body will reject it after a certain point in time like it, it's never made any one. Do anything fuck it well,
Maybe not that's an overstatement. It's not actually broken people. It's not a huge problem that people are taking mushrooms and committing violent crimes that just really no justification for, especially when as alcohol all over the place near economic and liquor store as every other corner is too easy to get some drugs and impossible to get others and the FAO. The ones that are super beneficial, like there's a study that opposed to the other day, my answer and that they should that suicide and therapy is four times more effective, retreating depression than than antidepressants that we currently using a mean this the war on drugs, that somebody wrote an article that with war on drugs, was that drugs were a big winner, twenty twenty in the war on drugs pigs, because at the elections drugs one in a lot of places like legalise marijuana, New Jersey, Montana Portland, says fuck Let's go with everything I think
Drugs drugs have a real, real guerrilla strategy. The war it's been forty years of the copse just kick in their fuckin asked for drugs, never gave up, they always hung in there they disappear. Then they come back strong like what what drugs have are gone down and usage. What weight What what in during the war on drugs, what dogs, what drugs have people's, maybe hair, not even heretics pill? but shooting up, maybe yeah, I mean, I don't even know: Junior preludes, something's up aware that will rely on their own party, but I think it's unrelated to the legality of. I think these things kind of ebb and flow right like there was like crack. Cocaine came in and kind of laughed and then heroin, but got big again, but they were all illegal. The whole time round, like they were gone, cause their illegal people who are doing heroin. People are too were throwing their lives away with really hard. Drugs are not affected by a law and people. Would never do heroin are not gonna start doing heroin because its league remember just say no, we will
We allow your young, I was a young for that, but I do remember: I'm arouse believers in high school. I remember was around that, maybe as early twenties, but remember seeing that what in the fuck did you just say just say: no, oh you fixed it in a way that we need an answer. I didn't know you just say no, if only someone had given me this tool to certain things in the passage just like you look back you'll. What do member the yelled the codes for like Was the possibility of a terrorist attack? Word code orange? Go she its code orange. What does that mean and it was so much just to keep everyone in a state of fear of Jesse. We went from orange to read TAT I always as bad code red. What do they know that we don't know how for years and now for a covert stuff like there and purple whatever the problem dick browser, blue balls, your blue balls, Dick Grant gangrene. You won't leave the house for eight months, but it is it's always like. Haven't we You ve got like a decade to look back at the shop
that's when you always see have Fulla shit, the government was like they were so full of shit about that, and therefore does he looked back and you see you know Dick Cheney going well find those weapons of mass destruction are here somewhere. You like, he was just lying to us. This was complete bullshit. What was was a column pow. That said, the approved my come in the form of a mushroom cloud I believe that was congolese or rice also said that, but POW went to the U N, with drawings of soup, Saddam Hussein's Mobile W M D, like fuckin trucks, or something- and he was like little- is rather go down here, and this is where they got age does all made up. Darted speeches like really celebrate, like really wonder what they told him wonder if he believed it. While you sign it, you know, has he didn't seem like the type a guy bee line about like that, but then they always he's like the one that they kind of like vindicate later. Like he's supposed to be, the good
one. Never you know behind closed doors. He really never wanted this work, but then he and sold it to everybody when that make him even worse, like it, I mean you can resign like that. Isn't option, you don't have to just go like well, I'm against but they want me to sell a war based on lies, so gotta be a team player and go. You know, get the country in a war. How that don't? Do that do you think, did he ever really did believe? It, though, was maybe a time where he got the evidence and it was like shit. This is real. I dont know. I think that he was. You know he was a part of the first Iraq war, and I think There's the my guess is that there might be part of him who really want to go fuck and takes Adam out, as you can imagine. you were leading a military invasion and some of your men were killed by the sky,
even though not too many weren't killed, but I'm sure you d, Hersel Personal, a personal thing, and so I think that might have been part of it. I think they all. You know you can't remove it from the context that George H, W bushes, you know since they fought a war in Iraq. W in there and now the sun basically was handed a blank cheque for war like well. Nine eleven happened. What do you want? What more do you want? You got because whenever one you decide but make it a good one I remember how many people were behind it, though oh yeah, oh my god, it was a blind patriot, in time. Folks, you don't remember too young and in two thousand and one when the IRA, war hit before? C Mon nine eleven it we were overwhelmed by american flags on cars. It was crazy, like you is way way, different amazing, I'd seen before you drive to work every woman have an american flag in their car. So I remember looking around going well. This is nuts, but there was
Also, this weird feeling of unity like people are letting people and fry them in their land is weird failure of work together. It's a really inch. It's really interesting, you say lecture you're right, it was the most unify we we ve ever been. and that almost as the other for the unity isn't necessarily good, like unity, can go in some bad places too, so you know Joe Biden call for unity now where we had real unity. After nine eleven, I mean as much as you you could have and what we did was basically get behind George W Bush as he ruined rather twenty four centuries, we thought we were behind George W Bush, because we thought there was weapons of mass truck on it, and I ran and he was gonna go in there and take him out yeah, but it's much easier when everybody's unified and behind a leader, it's much easier to be persuaded that he's doing this great thing for all of us, and yet I think people were behind him for somewhat noble reasons like yeah. We're gonna go, get the guys who got us and by the end of George Bush's
in ITALY like nowadays looking back at George Bush, it's hard for people who worked like Young then are worn alive than to even imagine that he was a really popular president, because by the end he had given us to disastrous wars in the worst economy and clear was really popular right after nano. Ah, yes, I t he gave a great speed they know you are and I loved him. Then I was in yeah we're all in demanding that mission com, this banner over them. usually what the fuck you talking about, we're still there and worsen. there are still there now mission accomplished yeah. What's the mission I suppose you could say we took out Saddam Hussein. I mean if that was the mission like ok, I was watching Saddam Hussein's trial yesterday, what's washed on. What's with on Youtube in this, and we this wild, he screamed. at the judge screamed. The jobs is one of his guys. We're shores in his underwear, like like it was, was so strange when he's screaming at the God that he wouldn't that judge that he wouldn't let them have a prayer.
Break you remember, Gypsy that part raise like we should have a prayer break now. He's like this is a court of law is like as this greater than Allah and takes the yelling out of it. It's really weird is clear. It was like secular, loud and his administration was well row it. of waiver for that part of the world, but he was still you know like I waited there there as long as you know and like you, but it was really crazy. It think this dictator, who ruled over this country with an iron fist, is now sitting there with a judge. You know like telling him what to do and it just very weird fuckin dynamic area that that war really fuckin destroyed the falcon region. Man. It was such a ban, idea. Fuckin overthrow Saddam Hussein. It was like the worst foreign policy decision Forget even just like that. Like oh, this is you know, evil we're gonna, kill all these innocent people, just like you are going to do Troy this region and just throw it into chaos and isn't aware that the idea of overthrowing and evil dictator can be a bad idea,
it's weird rightly say like well, you know I don't necessarily agree that where the police force the world, but I do think that if any but he's do it's going to be the United States right. So let's go when in Tehran, is bad guy. It's not that simple, not at all, not at all. No wonder in even like supporting a dictator, sometimes is like the best option in terms of like the loss of overall life, that's the ban, which is like a really weird decision that you, after you have to support when who you know is terrorizing their people, because if you dont, then you get what's in Libya, which is like a failed, state yeah. It's crazy Plato, much worse for the four regular people than it was under Gaddafi. Do member the video of them capturing Gaddafi, when we, shoves a knife up his ass yet and that here
Stan and areas into such shocks, ragging m, beating, Sodomizing M p. I realised that they had em. He realised that they had em and surrounded by all these people. In this just look just full shock the shelves, a knife up his ass. I can see the guy do understand, Alec or this knife goes up. Put matters of this country that you ve ruled over four decades, as can fuckin just all the sudden. They ve got you he rolled over. When I was a kid yeah yeah he was, he was the book, demand for a while. I never even employees in the United States put him in place I now feel obliged or about that there was something either he or we supported him. Once again we didn't. We support. We supported him at one period. In fact we are. We were working with him after nine eleven, he was really cooperating with the George W Bush administration. He was right Now, terrorists, given us the Falcon terror,
She turned overalls, chemical weapons and stuff. You wanted to play ball, he saw with the Bush administration was doing and he was going. Ok, I'm getting team America here and that didn't do any good one of my favorite Hillary Clinton. Videos is her laughing after he was dead, her going, we came, we saw he died. That's like a Hilary Like one of her handlers has to be like hey we're, reminding you you're trying to convince these people, your human is disguised as a stick. I don't think so the knife, and so whenever a shovel, something up is itself framed by framework and then is a knife will write up his ass like dude, I'm gonna be the guy, you know they have their flag, is planted with GMO Allah troops understand their hold up their flag. I wonder for that guy lives they gotta
If not, we heard that triggered a bronze statue of him with a knife reign of Saddam Hussein's Asshole get office. Oaks Yoni could offer Obviously I don't think so, because the countries completely been destroyed since then that if they did have that statue, it's probably fallen down and been melted and yet Ternata bullets yeah four bullets are helped in the south. if trade there and seen the slave trade on Youtube, when you get wise, the video is the idea, tat a saint and say, slave auctions, and this by the way. This is what this this whole thing: we're talking about: overthrown, Gaddafi, destroying the country leading to the open air slave trade markets as well. Done under Obama's administration, with Hillary Clinton, pushing for it with Joe Biden as the vice president, again just the idea that, like oh yea, trumps gone, we returned to normal all right, but if not I'm all is you know getting us into wars in
Libya in Syria and Yemen, continuing the war in Iraq and Afghanistan there some pretty negative aspects to nor So what? Let's? Let's play? Not even devils advocate bullets. Imagine what do you do if you don't help them throw Libya. If you do decide this guy's an evil dictator and has been for decades. Want to get him out. But what do you do? The fund, the people that are trying to get amount? If that doesn't work and would have it does work, and they get him they get amount they kill em like they did. How do you ensure that democracy gets instituted when it's ever been successful anywhere else. It we ve overthrown. Is there one days that we vote for So I go about doing great Germany in Japan That would be the examples right in Germany in Japan. However, in order to achieve that, we had to fight bloodiest war in human history and straight up target civilians
I mean in order to achieve that, we had to just straight it be like your word, dropping bombs on women and children intentionally not like Their collateral damage, like were new king cities in Japan, where data- and that seems like that doesn't seem like gonna be achieved in the Middle EAST. I think the idea that we can, do anything to ensure that there is a fair democratic process in Libya is just so Oh beyond absurdity. We are having trouble doing that here, like that. That was She didn t see. Washington has a huge crime problem these politicians can even figure out crime in Washington DC. The idea that they're going to take on the crime problem in Libya is so beyond absurd. I just think like that this country was never founded to believe that be the policeman of the world. we're not supposed to be an empire, even though we are its empires, crumble and die. Is that we need to highly, particularly now when we have so many problems at home in time.
We get out of the empire business, it's we can try to live. Spread good ideas, be a city? hell, be like hey guys. This is a better way to run society, but the idea that we have to get into the internal politics of whether living has a dictator, democracy or like democracy is not necessarily any better of a situation if sixty per se. The people there want to kill the other forty percent democracy, Anchor work out very well I give everybody vote where they can vote for. So what do you do it? they on out neuron yeah? I think so but I mean look, it's not that it's like it's just the way the world works. I dont think we we. I don't think we have a right. to impose our will on another people, and I dont think its effective to impose our well on other people. Then look at the results. Wasted trillions of dollars. We don't have for all of these posts. Nine, eleven wars. We don't have one victory to show even anything, that's even remotely close to a victory every
of the countries we ve been in is worse off now than it was before we got into them. Ghana stands worse racks. Worse Libya's worst Syria's worse. Yemen is way way worse, so it's just side of Libya and Yemen. Couldn't get? Is it possible to say that the rest of the world is better off the way, Iraq is and the way Afghanistan is today That's over around is better off a virtual. Iran is better off. They ve taken over complete influence of that region, so the ideas of our enemies and another our enemies again. Now now, that's the problem that basically that's the problem that, since the end of the Bush administration, all through the Obama administration and an into Trump, is that now there big problem. You know Aranjuez has all this influence in the region. What are we going to you about that, and I will maybe, if you don't fuckin fight a war on behalf of IRAN, they wouldn't have so much influence. So there there are winners like to all of this stuff, honestly The big winner is the biggest winner of all of this says this
Osama Bin Laden. He got it actually what he wanted drew America into these balkan conflict. This was literally has plan was, will we could never destroy America, but we could lore America in, the Middle EAST and make themselves spend themselves into debt? You know like on have all their whole extend themselves way too far militarily. This is how you get empires to collapse. This was his plan. That was how they got rid of the Soviet Union with an hour CIA taught him how to do it yet when he was with the yeah yeah. When the Soviet YE was occupying Afghanistan, they couldn't figure it out and they were like. We had this, we'll figure it out do right, yeah, it's just no one. Ever no one ever gets. Right after you get rid of a dictator like we don't have any examples other than Hitler right yeah. Well, it's
I mean I'm sure there are other examples of getting rid of a dictator, but usually it has to come from the people right kind of, like you know like realizing. They want something better, but, alas, are getting a man of some one. Is there any time that with the United States over through a dictator, and then everything got better here I mean I get, I guess, Japan, if you consider the emperor right ever to be attending this, is he bowed downright did need to guarantee ultimately was still in charge. No No that he ever was really in charge the delight culture, there's yards are very different cultures, a different circumstance and also but look like the thing you were saying. The problem of overthrowing a dictator is there and it something that people should consider in a lot of these situations. That things can and be worse, you know like em, Maybe sometimes it couldn't be much worse. You know what I mean: yeah, ok, in order to get much worse than Hitler- Stalin. I may I guess but hard to imagine, but they would say like We went to war in World WAR, one with the you know. The precursors,
Nazi, Germany and in others, thereby- and it's not to say that there weren't any problems and like the prussian Empire in the german monarchs or anything like that. But you could go look there, bag we're gonna get rid of us. Like, ok, well, look at what you have now. It's really amazing that we ve only drop to nuclear bombs. The two atomic bombs have gone off once a year it's kind of amazing that no other countries ever done that. Well, it's also because then the Soviets figured out the nuke your bomb and then ever since there was more than one country. The only on nukes of urban drop is when only one country headaches, and so there is, something there that, like the fact that people are scared to death, of someone else, also using nuclear kind, and we ve also never been to direct war with a nuclear armed power. We don't fuck with people with nukes knowledge mutually assured. structured yet real, oh yeah really does make people act in a certain way, which is really in some ways counter intuitive. Could you think others
nukes in the world there's gonna, be more nuclear attack scowled, but actually it turns out that the elites of this world have a lot more in common, with each other than they do with mere you, and so they kind of all. Have this gentlemen's agreement, where it's like look, will have our soldiers go out and kill you? other, but let's not do anything that, like this when they were even in the cold war. They like will fight it out in Vietnam,. Like no one's going to Russia, no one's coming to America, we're not going to actually you know, do something where we could get fucked over what I was getting too. So I wonder if that's always going to be the case cuz here we are
you know, obviously, one thousand nine hundred and forty seven that was about to drop the bombs for E55 so quite a while ago, but not in terms of like the age of the earth, not at all. In terms of history, you know if, in in historical times, if you look back on one thousand seven hundred and forty five versus one thousand eight hundred and twenty, it doesn't sound that big of a difference, it's not that we can go to one thousand five hundred and forty five to one thousand six hundred and twenty in your eyes. It's like the same time like that's all others world were too that's where I live right now: fifteen forty five fourteen forty five to fifteen twenty I ain't shit, nothing, so it could happen again. Oh, and the way we look at covert now the way we look the pandemic. Now having just gone through it, we should be looking at a nuclear holocaust. The same way we can do, but we should be looking at someone detonating a bomb in Chicago where we could be looking at the past.
ability that we are really lockdown like the really draconian measures to ensure or safety and security, because they have detonated. Nuclear bomb in an american city. Yes, we re that sounds like horseshit liability, highly world war to a world war. One would have sounded crazy table before it happens. Then it really all happen, and then I was eight. Did they good world where one? Then they did it again. Twenty years later, they just went up we're doing it again, which is for us the year two thousand, which I guess just that's right, so it really never stopped right. I mean it's like even when you think about like come. You know like the beef with around or something like that they'll, be, like you know, like the CIA, overthrew their government in nineteen, fifty three and then a nineteenth. Seventy nine. They overthrew that government and they basically hated America ever since you know like but nineteen fifty three to nineteen, seventy, nine! That's like Bill Clinton to now. I remember
He'll Clinton's presidency. We, like you, know it's a while ago, but it's like no. If someone like just some other government overthrew Bill Clinton, still remember that right now, I'm gonna give you motherfuckers came in and like through overthrew our government so easy for us to get used to what we used to Jimmy ever the Albert Einstein quote which I might butcher, but it was something like he said because I dont know what weapons will be used to fight world WAR three, but world war for will certainly be fought with rocks and sticks there's something like I'm a maturing it'll be basing like at this point. We are at a place where we really can't war It's war is end game. I mean war with like Russia or China or or anyone like that, that's even like when people are like, we gotta get China back for what they did with this virus like a ok but. Our options are limited when it went countries with a whole bunch of h bombs. You're you're options are limited as what you can do: Putin what is more, a war period would wipe out
civilization, Putin, warrant, adding world war for be fought with sticks and stones, This is exactly privileges still. I think he is proposing the quotas that kind of great Britain has decided. I just thought that babies doing that like in an almost Joe Biden, pipes reinvested plagiarized much time so yeah yeah, it's, I think, gum. Our version of what's possible is based entirely on what we have experienced means like. We never remember those photos of those people with masks on and that one thousand nine hundred and eighteen in an hour, version of reality, Pre Cove, it is spent forever altered. Now that we know the covert exists, and there's so many other things that could happen to us. This the thing we're so fragile? We always here by these comments, are whizzing by these asteroids get really close to earth. One of those fuckers could slam into us, and I've had some people on that of study their whole life.
versions of these scenarios where civilization has been forced to repeat itself, because the fact that we were hit and that this is probably happened multiple times over the ascension of human civilization and then it's one of the reasons why you have these ancient structures in Egypt that are very different in the way there constructed versus the ones from Cleopatra. Sarah was versus the ones from like that when the time when they built the great permanently ray and isn't there like em similar reading about this like a decade ago, but I saw I might not know that much about it, but it isn't a bit like the the water erosion on the sphinx or something like TAT, were they can't figure out how this lines on at the time period like this, is from like way older, yet a great bit about it, and I am talking monkeys in space, but that hold things like yet, but but in all seriousness, does seem like there's pretty strong indications that civilization
as much older than the official history books of like it starts. Ancient CN grandstand Carter's AGO Gram, Hank ARCA spent a giant chunk of his life, talked about this new brought in Doktor Robert Shock, whose job as from boss, University and John Anthony West, whose late great egyptologist I've had on the past couple times, and they are all committed to this idea that its very likely there what we see in Egypt in terms of things, they can date two thousand b c. This is just one error and that there is likely more. bull errors before that and the big one Big piece of evidence is the water erosion in the Temple, the great sphinx, because they know that they cut these. stones out nor create the sphinx, but there's more ass of water erosion on these rocks and the last time there was significant rainfall in the Nile Valley- was nine thousand b c so, instead of two thousand five hundred BC,
nine thousand b c and then they have to think well. This is thousands of years of what of rainfall they cause this erosion, so we might be talking. Ten thousand. Eleven thousand b c. So I don't really know when all this happened, but I do think that it coincides with and of the ice age. And the end of the ice age. There is a dramatic climate change somewhere around twelve thousand years ago and which would put it in ten thousand b say somewhere around twelve thousand years ago. This is where Randal Cross and in a gram, Hancock A bunch of others have have really gotten this younger dries impact theory in there is somewhere between twelve thousand ends. Thousand years ago. In a modern multiple occasions we were hit and that This was essentially a restart of civilization and a lot of areas and an end to the ice age and a lot areas as well and Randal crossings. Work is fuckin, spectacular,
when he showed you these images that in Kate, massive melting of ice over a spectacular landscape in a really amazingly short period of time, like a couple days worth of water pouring through and trillions of gallons per, we moving the landscape, changing it moving stones, and he has all these images and with you crazier. Is he got this idea when he was looking at this one area on ass at once, and he was like what happened here and he got. This idea is like what is this and then he starts researching the end of the ice age, and he says research in common impact and then this finding all this corresponding evidence in. and when they do course, apples says course samples- and they find all this iridium and all this nuclear glass impact glass. They find all this shit around the same area on twelve thousand years ago and the like
my god, and so he starts in his brilliant guy, and he can talk about this forever and They think that its highly likely that There was not just here, but in me many parts of the world. There is massive impacts that probably didn't kill everybody, but probably basically shy down all progress for who knows how many hundreds, if not thousands of years and then what you're, seeing when you're looking at two thousand five hundred BC in other Maison structure, was the knowledge they had left and it and a lot of allows lost library of Alexandria, Guinea burnt down rights of that stuff they built later spectacular, but You ve been building pretty amazing shit for mostly many thousands of years before we thought they were maybe we're due for a reset.
The scary thing right videos, and not only for really retorted shit, that people are saying that they like, maybe that's the right, maybe we're due for a nice old fashioned reset Well Douglas MA. He had on. The pact has said that when people, when civilization are crumbling, that some people get obsessed with gender- and I said really anyways yeah goes its. in ancient Rome? Unease in Greece is like a lot of transvestites and lot of people swapping genders into its own second, dissolving of all classifications and barriers and all the things we do took for granted as society. what society really starts fallen apart? This are questioning every last fibre of of of what it means to be a person and what it means to fit into the cold Well, you know I like, like I became like politically radicalized and from wrong Paul's campaigns, that's really where I get when I got interested and in politics like it ran two thousand seven, two thousand and eight when he was running for president- and I just love still this- they love the guy, I think, is like the greatest hero ever
but he would always talk about how like look we're on. Basically, this path toward national suicide- my words not his, but he built around this unsustainable path where we're safe, in way more than we can afford to spend were way to extended Miller airily, and this is how nations collapse- and this is like it's going to happen if we keep going Why so? I always kind of had that view in my head and then to see. What's happened with all the cultural stuff over the last year. Like ten years, while all of that other stuff is going on too many like this really feel was at the end of an like a collapsing empire. It really feels like that. Will they taught us at school at all empires eventually collapse? Media there? It's ancient Greece, ancient Rome all these employees, empire? They are everything and they ve. They all eventually fell apart and its own. Are very similar circumstances like their extended too far. They spend themselves too far into debt. They can't maintain it anymore, the culture kind of collapses like decadence and all this other shit, and then I guess it does seem
We have a lot of that oh yeah, but that That isn't necessarily bad like sometimes empires collapse, and it's actually. It's ok for the people in that country, we like. It was. Ok for England, when the british Empire collapsed in world war, two was bad, but the act where'd you another stone, ok country for for this, the union that collapsing was the best thing that ever happened to you. That's where those arguments or strange like is at the same argument they used about king, is con opening up the path for trade. You know he killed tent and the population. Well, yes, in the long run, look but you got a new rug good night. statue you know who I really love, this rug he's dead lips agenda, does ran Paul share most Wrong, Paul's ideas, I dont know I think, probably a lot. You know he's here
his son. I know run Paul made him read all the right stuff, a hopeful of growing up, you know, but he definitely has some areas of disagreement and he's also just a different. I think he's a different person and as different you know, strengths and weaknesses, and and wasn't quite as charismatic wasn't, as charismatic wasn't as much happy Warrior run Paul really he really joy aid going out there and tell people the truth ass. He saw it and talking to people and just- and he didn't really care if you know it was always kind of like run paul- would say things at the republican Debates and it be like hey look. You guys might do me out of the the arena and that's fine, I'm going to go home to my family and I told the truth: it's the truth, whether you like it or not- and that's fine- you can do that and I'll leave round always I think it bothered him a little bit more and dumb, but you know round is, I think, for to me like one of them
senators- and I think, he's done a lot. He did a lot to really push Donald Trump on em, the criminal rough but criminal justice reform. He's tried his best to push him on end. the wars and successful he's been at that, but but I dont so that he's gonna inspire people in the same way, his father, that I hope he does some one has to but isn't that what we are always looking for rose lookin for a hero when really need, a decentralized government well yeah, but that doesn't matter mean you can't have leaders or somebody who, like kind of which I was liars done with leaders Dave for future, tried it out. It doesn't work well, but I dont mean there's a difference between leaders and rulers. Right leg, you dont want to rule are right, but there's there's people who inspire you, who you learn from and stuff like that you want to you wanna leader, that doesn't want to be a ruler. Yes, exact, that's what I'm always is not the problem now the problem as they did in the past.
Our group. This is one we're seeing with low level people like governance. the worst governors they they just there. There's always lawsuits against Newsome lost one of a recently because he's autocrat now is telling me what they can do is writing legislation. Did you see when Tucker Karlsson Head Governor Murphy from New Jersey on his show and he and it was really like right at the height of covert, like I think it might have in May, or something like that, but I would still like you know, pretty no nonsense and so, like everyone's no one's given I ain't seen one tough interview with one of these governors like every I'm they came on some new show. It was just like, oh my god, you're saving all these lives near wonderful, and thank you for all of this, and then they have their press conferences. They take some questions, but it wasn't. Talker just starts growing this guy
any accident, one point he goes okay. So recently there was like a church service that you shut down and you are rested for jewish people for being a temple and those that are- and it was what right do you have to do that, I mean in the bill of rights very clearly defined that the right to religious, you know expression is that you notice he's like so so where'd you get the authority to shut down of a place of worship, and he goes he goes well, you know we weren't thinking about the bill of rights when we did this we're just trying to keep people safe, Then he goes. He was a kid, but where do you get the authority and it goes well? That's above my pay great you're, that having that's exactly your pay great. That's it that's exactly what you pay, but so that's just what, like. That's the mentality that swept over these people? It's a lot. It reminds me a lot of the George W Bush mentality of, like you know into shooting torture and all these other things? Like well what about laws against this? It's like nine, eleven man right, I don't know about laws and rules, but fuckin we're here.
And so were fit. You know like we. They feel it because this thing happened: Don't worry about silly little things like the fuckin bill of rights. Who's got time for that we're gonna be a little pass, an act and give it a good name, we have a patriot exactly like you champion non patriot peace, shit past Patriot ACT they if they come up with something like the safety act. Let's keep grandma alive act. They don't do this all the time, but for this one, does you did you about the the anti lynching bill, not that there is Anti Lynching bell and they would blast people being
will we in against the silence it ran Paul? He was one. Was he voted against the anti lynching billing you're? Ok, wait for someone else was an isn't lynching already illegal likes out. So explain to me what exactly was an and then it turns out that tramples problem. Was that this, because this, like really broadly defines what a hate crimes and now it seems that, like if someone were to light gettin, a bar fight, you could like give them like twenty years under, like some hate crime. Legislation is like let slow down on that. That seems a little crazy like and then they like you, Sport! Lynching kids, like way this is really we are, did you can just name a bill? Something and then say, if your fault, but in a patriot, act all this shit yeah result they should not be able to name bills. Provocative names, exodus of have numbers. Yes, you know, that's it you won't get. A number can get a name
names have allowed, should attach to get absolutely especially an title, lynching, but there's end result, but even like you know, the coal Obamacare the Affordable CARE act, everything they put it like this nice thing that nobody could possibly be against. I would you be against affordable care for forty, hey people Marlborough that people from the hip what's wrong with you, yetive listen, I think we fuckin covered. All we fix everything doing Where was it was like a round have twenty minutes ago, twenty one that was exact moment. We now, I think, we'll go it just like three and a half hours. How among we do. I guess we'll talk before we started out three hours. Three hours to shop, three hours more lose all sense of time,
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